He wrote: “Jesus, and the Israelites in his time, drank wine. It was and is still part of the Passover seder. Even in the Quran, wine was permissible in the early days. And of course, Jesus's real name is Yeshu' (ܝܫܘܥ). And on the contrary, if you called him 'Isa (عِيسَى) he'd look at you funny, as 'Isa is not a genuine, 1st century Israelite name at all.” Jalal Abualrub wrote: 1) Isiah 5:22 condemns “heroes at drinking wine” while Proverbs 20:1 warns against intoxication, i.e., itself, not just heavy drinking. 2) ‘Good’ news for drunks and homosexuals found in this commandment: “Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10). 3) Are there any sins mentioned here that the Christians do not commit on, and for Christmas? 4) `Esa (Jesus) declared, “Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfill” (Matthew 5:17). No doubt, `Esa (Jesus) did fulfill 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. 5) Since the Jews wrote the Old Testament and the New Testament with their own hands then falsely ascribed them to ‘God’, it is not possible to verify the truth of their claims about Jesus or anything or anyone else to begin with. The Old and the New Testaments represent the worst, the most broken, chain of narration ever; no one knows who wrote what, when or in which original language, or who authorized them to write what they wrote, all the while forgetting to mention their full names. 6) Passover: Muslims celebrate the saving of Prophet Musa (Moses [notice the last ‘s’ and contemplate where it came from!]) and the children of Israel from Pharaoh by fasting. The Jews celebrate it by getting drunk and killing Palestinian women and children. 7) Jesus: the ‘J’ is European the last ‘S’ is also European. They corrupt names by adding J and seem to be fascinated with adding S after names. Remove the J and the last S, since Jesus was not European, what's left is Esu (Iso, Isho) all of which conform with Esa, not Yashu, or Yasoo (يسوع) as Arab Christians call him. The Latinos have trouble pronouncing the, J. I often heard them calling me ‘Yalal’, not my name, Jalal. They also often do not pronounce the letter ‘s’ at the end of words. Esa, Iso, Isho, and Esu are considered as the same name in the Arabi culture which is the foundation and is much older than the Hebrew culture. 8) Esa (عيسى) should be in ‘E’ not ‘I’, because people might say it like this: ‘Eye-sa’. Furthermore, according to pronunciation rules in American English, the first vowel is ‘long’ sounding meaning it is pronounced as it looks, ‘E.’ There are exceptions, but this is clearly not one of them. 9) Allah tolerated those who used to drink intoxicants before Islam while gradually increasing the restrictions on them, to phase out their dependency on intoxicants. Then, the Quran prohibited intoxicants forever since then, until eternity--- no Muslim is allowed to consume intoxicants. 10) ‘Jesus’ is not an Israelite name in any century. 11) In Contrast, Aramaic ‘Isho’ is; and ‘Isho’ is compatible with ‘Esa, Iso, Esu’; even today the Jews say sh while pronouncing s. 12) If Jesus where to be among us today and hears these names: Jesus, Yasoo, Yeshu, Hesus, and knowing that he spoke Aramaic, would he recognize these names or would recognize Esa, Esu, Isho, Iso? 13) Will Christians now start calling Jesus :'The Drunken Lord and Savior'? Allah's Prophet Esa was not a drunk, nor was he the Lord or the Savior. He was an honorable Prophet from Allah (God). Here are 13 points I gift them to you today; 13 is a good number, so many Christians are scared of using this 'bad' number, especially since Judas was reportedly the 13th Guest at the Last Supper! Jalal Abualrub
Maryam as) covered her self with a jilbab and we all know what religion has the jilbab not them we cover ourselves like Maryam as) not like there women. This is the time we should increase our Ibadah most not need a excuse to drink drinking is there religion. I was a Christian but Alhumduillah a Muslim now so I know them.
I would love to hear your views on the Armies of Khurrasan that will pledge allegiance to the Mahdi As ? Don't you think Pakistan will have the LEADING ROLE in commanding those Mujhaideen ? The Jews know we'll it is Pakistan that will become their worst Nightmare InshaAllah
Jesus, and the Israelites in his time, drank wine. It was and is still part of the Passover seder. Even in the Quran, wine was permissible in the early days. And of course, Jesus's real name is Yeshu' (ܝܫܘܥ). And on the contrary, if you called him 'Isa (عِيسَى) he'd look at you funny, as 'Isa is not a genuine, 1st century Israelite name at all.
1) Isiah 5:22 condemns “heroes at drinking wine” while Proverbs 20:1 warns against intoxication, i.e., itself, not just heavy drinking. 2) ‘Good’ news for drunks and homosexuals found in this commandment: “Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10). 3) Are there any sins mentioned here that the Christians do not commit on, and for Christmas? 4) `Esa (Jesus) declared, “Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfill” (Matthew 5:17). No doubt, `Esa (Jesus) did fulfill 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. 5) Since the Jews wrote the Old Testament and the New Testament with their own hands then falsely ascribed them to ‘God’, it is not possible to verify the truth of their claims about Jesus or anything or anyone else to begin with. The Old and the New Testaments represent the worst, the most broken, chain of narration ever; no one knows who wrote what, when or in which original language, or who authorized them to write what they wrote, all the while forgetting to mention their full names. 6) Passover: Muslims celebrate the saving of Prophet Musa (Moses [notice the last ‘s’ and contemplate where it came from!]) and the children of Israel from Pharaoh by fasting. The Jews celebrate it by getting drunk and killing Palestinian women and children. 7) Jesus: the ‘J’ is European the last ‘S’ is also European. They corrupt names by adding J and seem to be fascinated with adding S after names. Remove the J and the last S, since Jesus was not European, what's left is Esu (Iso, Isho) all of which conform with Esa, not Yashu, or Yasoo (يسوع) as Arab Christians call him. The Latinos have trouble pronouncing the, J. I often heard them calling me ‘Yalal’, not my name, Jalal. They also often do not pronounce the letter ‘s’ at the end of words. Esa, Iso, Isho, and Esu are considered as the same name in the Arabi culture which is the foundation and is much older than the Hebrew culture. 8) Esa (عيسى) should be in ‘E’ not ‘I’, because people might say it like this: ‘Eye-sa’. Furthermore, according to pronunciation rules in American English, the first vowel is ‘long’ sounding meaning it is pronounced as it looks, ‘E.’ There are exceptions, but this is clearly not one of them. 9) Allah tolerated those who used to drink intoxicants before Islam while gradually increasing the restrictions on them, to phase out their dependency on intoxicants. Then, the Quran prohibited intoxicants forever since then, until eternity--- no Muslim is allowed to consume intoxicants. 10) ‘Jesus’ is not an Israelite name in any century. 11) In Contrast, Aramaic ‘Isho’ is; and ‘Isho’ is compatible with ‘Esa, Iso, Esu’; even today the Jews say sh while pronouncing s. 12) If Jesus where to be among us today and hears these names: Jesus, Yasoo, Yeshu, Hesus, and knowing that he spoke Aramaic, would he recognize these names or would he recognize Esa, Esu, Isho, Iso? 13) Will Christians now start calling Jesus :'The Drunken Lord and Savior'? Esa was not a drunk, nor was he the Lord or the Savior. He was an honorable Prophet from Allah (God). These are 13 points I gift them to you today, and 13 is a good number: so many Christians are scared of using this 'bad' number, especially since Judas was -reportedly- the 13th Guest at the Last Supper! Jalal Abualrub
@@IslamLife2 1) Proverbs 20:1 condemns "being deceived" by alcohol & is not a blanket prohibition, which is why Proverbs 31:3-7 identifies classes of people who can drink. Wine is permitted by the Torah itself: Deuteronomy 14:26, Numbers 6:20. 3) I do not know any Christians who can't get through Christmas without buggery, fornication, swindling or drunken revelry, but maybe you keep different company from what I do. 4) Yes, Christ affirmed that the Law and Prophets (the Hebrew Bible) is the word of God, and is valid forever, in stark contrast to your religion which says they're corrupted and irrelevant. But there's a difference between drinking wine and getting drunk, just like the distinction between eating and gluttony. 5) Quite surreal that you approvingly cite Matthew 5:17-18 where Christ affirms the Old Testament and in the very next paragraph go on to talk about how unreliable and spurious the Old Testament is. XD 6) Yes, the -s came from the same linguistic source as the -s in the Quranic names Yunus and Ilias, as well as the -n at the end of the words Sulayman and Fir'awn: Greek. The original Hebrew of these names is Yonah, Eliyahu and Shlomoh. 7) Well then, looks like the Quran must have "corrupted" the names of Shlomoh, Eliyahu and Yonah by adding Indo-European morphological features to them! D: Quranic 'Isa is not Aramaic Isho. There is only a superficial resemblance when written in Latin letters that doesn't apply to the originals. In reality, the words are morphologically and etymologically unrelated. Aramaic Isho or Yeshu' (ܝܫܘܥ) is transcribed as yšwˁ, whereas 'Isa or 'Isay (عيسى) is transcribed as ˁysy. Isho or Yeshu' is a late form of the name Yehoshua, Yahweh saves. By contrast, the origin and meaning of 'Isa are uncertain and it doesn't correspond to any 1st century Israelite Aramaic or Hebrew name. 9) Yep, and so even from a Muslim perspective since no one can prohibit what Allah hasn't and if Allah didn't prohibit wine in Jesus's time there's no reason at all to assume he never drank it, especially as it was part of Israelite religion and culture to do so. 10) Yes, Jesus is just a Hellenization and later Anglicization of his actual name: ܝܫܘܥ. 11) As shown above in 7), Isho is not 'Isa or 'Esa. Also, the phonological shift from sh > s is an innovation in Arabic, not Hebrew. Compare the word for 'year' in Arabic, sanah, versus Hebrew šanah, Aramaic šatta and Akkadian šattu. 12) Again, see 7). He'd recognize Yeshu'. This is how his name is pronounced in the Aramaic Peshitta. Yeshu is the older form of Isho and would be current in Christ's time and is also preserved in the Hebrew Bible (Ezra 2:2). 13) Again, merely to drink wine is not to be a drunk, any more than eating is to be a glutton. And even anonymous angels are worthy enough to be called lord according to the Quran (Q. 3:47); but Christ is the King (i.e., the Messiah) according to Q. 3:45. A king is most certainly a lord. And how could he not be a saviour when even purely secular figures save others?
1) Proverbs 20:1 condemns "being deceived" by alcohol & is not a blanket prohibition, which is why Proverbs 31:3-7 identifies classes of people who can drink. Wine is permitted by the Torah itself: Deuteronomy 14:26, Numbers 6:20. 3) I do not know any Christians who can't get through Christmas without buggery, fornication, swindling or drunken revelry, but maybe you keep different company from what I do. 4) Yes, Christ affirmed that the Law and Prophets (the Hebrew Bible) is the word of God, and is valid forever, in stark contrast to your religion which says they're corrupted and irrelevant. But there's a difference between drinking wine and getting drunk, just like the distinction between eating and gluttony. 5) Quite surreal that you approvingly cite Matthew 5:17-18 where Christ affirms the Old Testament and in the very next paragraph go on to talk about how unreliable and spurious the Old Testament is. XD 6) Yes, the -s came from the same linguistic source as the -s in the Quranic names Yunus and Ilias, as well as the -n at the end of the words Sulayman and Fir'awn: Greek. The original Hebrew of these names is Yonah, Eliyahu and Shlomoh. 7) Well then, looks like the Quran must have "corrupted" the names of Shlomoh, Eliyahu and Yonah by adding Indo-European morphological features to them! D: Quranic 'Isa is not Aramaic Isho. There is only a superficial resemblance when written in Latin letters that doesn't apply to the originals. In reality, the words are morphologically and etymologically unrelated. Aramaic Isho or Yeshu' (ܝܫܘܥ) is transcribed as yšwˁ, whereas 'Isa or 'Isay (عيسى) is transcribed as ˁysy. Isho or Yeshu' is a late form of the name Yehoshua, Yahweh saves. By contrast, the origin and meaning of 'Isa are uncertain and it doesn't correspond to any 1st century Israelite Aramaic or Hebrew name. 9) Yep, and so even from a Muslim perspective since no one can prohibit what Allah hasn't and if Allah didn't prohibit wine in Jesus's time there's no reason at all to assume he never drank it, especially as it was part of Israelite religion and culture to do so. 10) Yes, Jesus is just a Hellenization and later Anglicization of his actual name: ܝܫܘܥ. 11) As shown above in 7), Isho is not 'Isa or 'Esa. Also, the phonological shift from sh > s is an innovation in Arabic, not Hebrew. Compare the word for 'year' in Arabic, sanah, versus Hebrew šanah, Aramaic šatta and Akkadian šattu. 12) Again, see 7). He'd recognize Yeshu'. This is how his name is pronounced in the Aramaic Peshitta. Yeshu is the older form of Isho and would be current in Christ's time and is also preserved in the Hebrew Bible (Ezra 2:2). 13) Again, merely to drink wine is not to be a drunk, any more than eating is to be a glutton. And even anonymous angels are worthy enough to be called lord according to the Quran (Q. 3:47); but Christ is the King (i.e., the Messiah) according to Q. 3:45. A king is most certainly a lord. And how could he not be a saviour when even purely secular figures save others?
May Allah bless me and all of you, and keep us upon the straight path
حفظكم الله
Beautiful reminder and information
JazakAllahu khayr. Thanks for keeping it real, Shaykh.
May aswt guide the misguided towards Islam Ameen.🇿🇦
Lacnatul Allah eve
Brilliantly Said..
this time of the year the idol of the christians turns from a cross into a tree.
A tree that only bears Shirk not fruit.
Barakallaahu Feek
He wrote: “Jesus, and the Israelites in his time, drank wine. It was and is still part of the Passover seder. Even in the Quran, wine was permissible in the early days. And of course, Jesus's real name is Yeshu' (ܝܫܘܥ). And on the contrary, if you called him 'Isa (عِيسَى) he'd look at you funny, as 'Isa is not a genuine, 1st century Israelite name at all.”
Jalal Abualrub wrote:
1) Isiah 5:22 condemns “heroes at drinking wine” while Proverbs 20:1 warns against intoxication, i.e., itself, not just heavy drinking.
2) ‘Good’ news for drunks and homosexuals found in this commandment: “Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).
3) Are there any sins mentioned here that the Christians do not commit on, and for Christmas?
4) `Esa (Jesus) declared, “Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfill” (Matthew 5:17). No doubt, `Esa (Jesus) did fulfill 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.
5) Since the Jews wrote the Old Testament and the New Testament with their own hands then falsely ascribed them to ‘God’, it is not possible to verify the truth of their claims about Jesus or anything or anyone else to begin with. The Old and the New Testaments represent the worst, the most broken, chain of narration ever; no one knows who wrote what, when or in which original language, or who authorized them to write what they wrote, all the while forgetting to mention their full names.
6) Passover: Muslims celebrate the saving of Prophet Musa (Moses [notice the last ‘s’ and contemplate where it came from!]) and the children of Israel from Pharaoh by fasting. The Jews celebrate it by getting drunk and killing Palestinian women and children.
7) Jesus: the ‘J’ is European the last ‘S’ is also European. They corrupt names by adding J and seem to be fascinated with adding S after names. Remove the J and the last S, since Jesus was not European, what's left is Esu (Iso, Isho) all of which conform with Esa, not Yashu, or Yasoo (يسوع) as Arab Christians call him. The Latinos have trouble pronouncing the, J. I often heard them calling me ‘Yalal’, not my name, Jalal. They also often do not pronounce the letter ‘s’ at the end of words. Esa, Iso, Isho, and Esu are considered as the same name in the Arabi culture which is the foundation and is much older than the Hebrew culture.
8) Esa (عيسى) should be in ‘E’ not ‘I’, because people might say it like this: ‘Eye-sa’. Furthermore, according to pronunciation rules in American English, the first vowel is ‘long’ sounding meaning it is pronounced as it looks, ‘E.’ There are exceptions, but this is clearly not one of them.
9) Allah tolerated those who used to drink intoxicants before Islam while gradually increasing the restrictions on them, to phase out their dependency on intoxicants. Then, the Quran prohibited intoxicants forever since then, until eternity--- no Muslim is allowed to consume intoxicants.
10) ‘Jesus’ is not an Israelite name in any century.
11) In Contrast, Aramaic ‘Isho’ is; and ‘Isho’ is compatible with ‘Esa, Iso, Esu’; even today the Jews say sh while pronouncing s.
12) If Jesus where to be among us today and hears these names: Jesus, Yasoo, Yeshu, Hesus, and knowing that he spoke Aramaic, would he recognize these names or would recognize Esa, Esu, Isho, Iso?
13) Will Christians now start calling Jesus :'The Drunken Lord and Savior'? Allah's Prophet Esa was not a drunk, nor was he the Lord or the Savior. He was an honorable Prophet from Allah (God).
Here are 13 points I gift them to you today; 13 is a good number, so many Christians are scared of using this 'bad' number, especially since Judas was reportedly the 13th Guest at the Last Supper!
Jalal Abualrub
Maryam as) covered her self with a jilbab and we all know what religion has the jilbab not them we cover ourselves like Maryam as) not like there women. This is the time we should increase our Ibadah most not need a excuse to drink drinking is there religion. I was a Christian but Alhumduillah a Muslim now so I know them.
Christmas in the hell fire
alhamdulillah most scholars we know arent making excuses for christmas... except one, cleary he must have some holes in his narrative
I would love to hear your views on the Armies of Khurrasan that will pledge allegiance to the Mahdi As ? Don't you think Pakistan will have the LEADING ROLE in commanding those Mujhaideen ? The Jews know we'll it is Pakistan that will become their worst Nightmare InshaAllah
In shaa Allah if Allah allows me we will discuss this topic. Too busy at the moment.
Jesus, and the Israelites in his time, drank wine. It was and is still part of the Passover seder. Even in the Quran, wine was permissible in the early days.
And of course, Jesus's real name is Yeshu' (ܝܫܘܥ). And on the contrary, if you called him 'Isa (عِيسَى) he'd look at you funny, as 'Isa is not a genuine, 1st century Israelite name at all.
1) Isiah 5:22 condemns “heroes at drinking wine” while Proverbs 20:1 warns against intoxication, i.e., itself, not just heavy drinking.
2) ‘Good’ news for drunks and homosexuals found in this commandment: “Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).
3) Are there any sins mentioned here that the Christians do not commit on, and for Christmas?
4) `Esa (Jesus) declared, “Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfill” (Matthew 5:17). No doubt, `Esa (Jesus) did fulfill 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.
5) Since the Jews wrote the Old Testament and the New Testament with their own hands then falsely ascribed them to ‘God’, it is not possible to verify the truth of their claims about Jesus or anything or anyone else to begin with. The Old and the New Testaments represent the worst, the most broken, chain of narration ever; no one knows who wrote what, when or in which original language, or who authorized them to write what they wrote, all the while forgetting to mention their full names.
6) Passover: Muslims celebrate the saving of Prophet Musa (Moses [notice the last ‘s’ and contemplate where it came from!]) and the children of Israel from Pharaoh by fasting. The Jews celebrate it by getting drunk and killing Palestinian women and children.
7) Jesus: the ‘J’ is European the last ‘S’ is also European. They corrupt names by adding J and seem to be fascinated with adding S after names. Remove the J and the last S, since Jesus was not European, what's left is Esu (Iso, Isho) all of which conform with Esa, not Yashu, or Yasoo (يسوع) as Arab Christians call him. The Latinos have trouble pronouncing the, J. I often heard them calling me ‘Yalal’, not my name, Jalal. They also often do not pronounce the letter ‘s’ at the end of words. Esa, Iso, Isho, and Esu are considered as the same name in the Arabi culture which is the foundation and is much older than the Hebrew culture.
8) Esa (عيسى) should be in ‘E’ not ‘I’, because people might say it like this: ‘Eye-sa’. Furthermore, according to pronunciation rules in American English, the first vowel is ‘long’ sounding meaning it is pronounced as it looks, ‘E.’ There are exceptions, but this is clearly not one of them.
9) Allah tolerated those who used to drink intoxicants before Islam while gradually increasing the restrictions on them, to phase out their dependency on intoxicants. Then, the Quran prohibited intoxicants forever since then, until eternity--- no Muslim is allowed to consume intoxicants.
10) ‘Jesus’ is not an Israelite name in any century.
11) In Contrast, Aramaic ‘Isho’ is; and ‘Isho’ is compatible with ‘Esa, Iso, Esu’; even today the Jews say sh while pronouncing s.
12) If Jesus where to be among us today and hears these names: Jesus, Yasoo, Yeshu, Hesus, and knowing that he spoke Aramaic, would he recognize these names or would he recognize Esa, Esu, Isho, Iso?
13) Will Christians now start calling Jesus :'The Drunken Lord and Savior'?
Esa was not a drunk, nor was he the Lord or the Savior. He was an honorable Prophet from Allah (God). These are 13 points I gift them to you today, and 13 is a good number: so many Christians are scared of using this 'bad' number, especially since Judas was -reportedly- the 13th Guest at the Last Supper!
Jalal Abualrub
@@IslamLife2
1) Proverbs 20:1 condemns "being deceived" by alcohol & is not a blanket prohibition, which is why Proverbs 31:3-7 identifies classes of people who can drink. Wine is permitted by the Torah itself: Deuteronomy 14:26, Numbers 6:20.
3) I do not know any Christians who can't get through Christmas without buggery, fornication, swindling or drunken revelry, but maybe you keep different company from what I do.
4) Yes, Christ affirmed that the Law and Prophets (the Hebrew Bible) is the word of God, and is valid forever, in stark contrast to your religion which says they're corrupted and irrelevant.
But there's a difference between drinking wine and getting drunk, just like the distinction between eating and gluttony.
5) Quite surreal that you approvingly cite Matthew 5:17-18 where Christ affirms the Old Testament and in the very next paragraph go on to talk about how unreliable and spurious the Old Testament is. XD
6) Yes, the -s came from the same linguistic source as the -s in the Quranic names Yunus and Ilias, as well as the -n at the end of the words Sulayman and Fir'awn: Greek. The original Hebrew of these names is Yonah, Eliyahu and Shlomoh.
7) Well then, looks like the Quran must have "corrupted" the names of Shlomoh, Eliyahu and Yonah by adding Indo-European morphological features to them! D:
Quranic 'Isa is not Aramaic Isho. There is only a superficial resemblance when written in Latin letters that doesn't apply to the originals. In reality, the words are morphologically and etymologically unrelated. Aramaic Isho or Yeshu' (ܝܫܘܥ) is transcribed as yšwˁ, whereas 'Isa or 'Isay (عيسى) is transcribed as ˁysy. Isho or Yeshu' is a late form of the name Yehoshua, Yahweh saves. By contrast, the origin and meaning of 'Isa are uncertain and it doesn't correspond to any 1st century Israelite Aramaic or Hebrew name.
9) Yep, and so even from a Muslim perspective since no one can prohibit what Allah hasn't and if Allah didn't prohibit wine in Jesus's time there's no reason at all to assume he never drank it, especially as it was part of Israelite religion and culture to do so.
10) Yes, Jesus is just a Hellenization and later Anglicization of his actual name: ܝܫܘܥ.
11) As shown above in 7), Isho is not 'Isa or 'Esa. Also, the phonological shift from sh > s is an innovation in Arabic, not Hebrew. Compare the word for 'year' in Arabic, sanah, versus Hebrew šanah, Aramaic šatta and Akkadian šattu.
12) Again, see 7). He'd recognize Yeshu'. This is how his name is pronounced in the Aramaic Peshitta. Yeshu is the older form of Isho and would be current in Christ's time and is also preserved in the Hebrew Bible (Ezra 2:2).
13) Again, merely to drink wine is not to be a drunk, any more than eating is to be a glutton. And even anonymous angels are worthy enough to be called lord according to the Quran (Q. 3:47); but Christ is the King (i.e., the Messiah) according to Q. 3:45. A king is most certainly a lord. And how could he not be a saviour when even purely secular figures save others?
1) Proverbs 20:1 condemns "being deceived" by alcohol & is not a blanket prohibition, which is why Proverbs 31:3-7 identifies classes of people who can drink. Wine is permitted by the Torah itself: Deuteronomy 14:26, Numbers 6:20.
3) I do not know any Christians who can't get through Christmas without buggery, fornication, swindling or drunken revelry, but maybe you keep different company from what I do.
4) Yes, Christ affirmed that the Law and Prophets (the Hebrew Bible) is the word of God, and is valid forever, in stark contrast to your religion which says they're corrupted and irrelevant.
But there's a difference between drinking wine and getting drunk, just like the distinction between eating and gluttony.
5) Quite surreal that you approvingly cite Matthew 5:17-18 where Christ affirms the Old Testament and in the very next paragraph go on to talk about how unreliable and spurious the Old Testament is. XD
6) Yes, the -s came from the same linguistic source as the -s in the Quranic names Yunus and Ilias, as well as the -n at the end of the words Sulayman and Fir'awn: Greek. The original Hebrew of these names is Yonah, Eliyahu and Shlomoh.
7) Well then, looks like the Quran must have "corrupted" the names of Shlomoh, Eliyahu and Yonah by adding Indo-European morphological features to them! D:
Quranic 'Isa is not Aramaic Isho. There is only a superficial resemblance when written in Latin letters that doesn't apply to the originals. In reality, the words are morphologically and etymologically unrelated. Aramaic Isho or Yeshu' (ܝܫܘܥ) is transcribed as yšwˁ, whereas 'Isa or 'Isay (عيسى) is transcribed as ˁysy. Isho or Yeshu' is a late form of the name Yehoshua, Yahweh saves. By contrast, the origin and meaning of 'Isa are uncertain and it doesn't correspond to any 1st century Israelite Aramaic or Hebrew name.
9) Yep, and so even from a Muslim perspective since no one can prohibit what Allah hasn't and if Allah didn't prohibit wine in Jesus's time there's no reason at all to assume he never drank it, especially as it was part of Israelite religion and culture to do so.
10) Yes, Jesus is just a Hellenization and later Anglicization of his actual name: ܝܫܘܥ.
11) As shown above in 7), Isho is not 'Isa or 'Esa. Also, the phonological shift from sh > s is an innovation in Arabic, not Hebrew. Compare the word for 'year' in Arabic, sanah, versus Hebrew šanah, Aramaic šatta and Akkadian šattu.
12) Again, see 7). He'd recognize Yeshu'. This is how his name is pronounced in the Aramaic Peshitta. Yeshu is the older form of Isho and would be current in Christ's time and is also preserved in the Hebrew Bible (Ezra 2:2).
13) Again, merely to drink wine is not to be a drunk, any more than eating is to be a glutton. And even anonymous angels are worthy enough to be called lord according to the Quran (Q. 3:47); but Christ is the King (i.e., the Messiah) according to Q. 3:45. A king is most certainly a lord. And how could he not be a saviour when even purely secular figures save others?
@@IslamLife2
I posted a response below.
@@ConsideringPhlebas below where