I have a 2018 Concord Coachman class C and I pull a 2014 Chevrolet 4x4 1500 Silverado with no problems. I do the same thing with a dummy key, had one cut to fit my truck with no chip.
Just for laughs and grins,,,,, when people at the gas station ask " are you actually pulling that f150 with that class C ?",,, you could say" no, , actually the f150 is pushing the motorhome." 🤪 Seriously though, this is a very informative video. 👍👍👍 Happy trails .
I couldn’t see how the emergency cable would work. Your integrated braking system was the best I’ve seen for these. Thanks. I always wondered about all this.
the emergency brake works the same as the one on a travel trailer, when the pin is pulled out of the black box is closes a switch that applies power to the breaking module. Thanks for watching!!
@@DudeRV I have a 2004 f150 4x4 I need to tow 20 miles. It will start and idle but no acceleration due to a issue with the throttle body. Can I tow this truck with a tow strap idling and in neutral and not damage anything?
@@A.C.71 I am not a mechanic and can only recommend that you follow towing guidelines in the owners manual. Me personally, I would have no issues pulling it 20 miles. The ideal situation would be to put the transfer case into neutral, you will want the engine running to provide power steering for who ever gets the job of being pulled. Best of luck and thanks for watching!
I love the Duo! I have enough loose stuff floating around in my truck so I only wanted something that was permanent mounted/installed. Thanks for watching!
Yippie!! I can tow my F150 FX4 with my Thor Outlaw Class C! I thought that I would need to buy a tow dolly or a new small car. I love my TRUCK!! I'll be sure to research the braking module as well. Thanks for the video Dude RV!
Glad to help! Just be sure you are in flat tow mode before you start rolling, you will burn out the transmission if you just have it in neutral. thanks for watching
Execellent towing video. Appreciated the actually video while you were towing. We have a travel trailer now, but had a class C with a towed in the early 90s. Decided no more motorized RVs for us after that. Prefer separating our tow vehicle from the RV. Also, was unable to back up our Class C while towing our car. Thanks again for all the wonderful videos
I kinew I was leaving something out but could not see and you just pointed it out, you can not back up while the F150 is connected to the motor home! Thanks so much for watching!!
I have a 2004 new body F-150 4x4 regular cab short bed 4.6 V8 automatic with Borg Werner 4406 manuql shift transfer case. Thinking about taking a job where id have to tow it from location to location and drive it to a different location. In the owners manual it says not to flat tow or tow by just the front or rear wheels. Is there a way to flat tow it?
Dude! That is way over my simple minded head so I did a little research and I found something that should help. here it is...www.irv2.com/forums/f85/flat-towing-a-2004-f150-476171.html
I have a dummy key that has no chip so even if I wanted to the truck will not start. The shift selector is left in neutral and the key is turned off. because the shifter is not in park the key can not be turned completely to the removal wheel locking position point but the power is off so the battery does not drain.
Very good video, I just did a test drive trying to tow an F150 with a Motorhome Chateau FORD E 450. When I got to the highway at 60 MPH on the rear camera, I could see F150 was steady, but the motorhome was swinging too much ....do you know if i have to do any configuration on the Motor home ?
Im not sure. I think that the electronic transfer case dates from 2013 and up. If the truck is a 4x4 then you should be able to flat tow but please check with a mechanic before you make the attempt. Thanks for watching!
yes you can, You can actually install a drive shaft de-coupler that makes uit as easy as pulling a handle. www.alldrivelines.com/custom-remco-drive-shafts/
@cowboyrickpennyfeather all good! Thanks for watching. By the way, I use the Stay And Play Dueo integrated break module. I have over 100K miles on that unit and still love it.
Great information, and well presented. I have a question about highway speeds. Is there a limit on safe speeds? Lots of interstates these days are 75 to 80 mph now, and staying with the traffic is what I'm wondering about. If you were running at those speeds, how does it handle, will it damage the F-150? What speeds are you most comfortable with? Thank you again for the good information!
That I am aware of, there is not a mechanical "limit" on top speed. I have reach 75/80 MPH on the 95 bypass around Austin with no towing issues. Make darn sure your truck tires are in good shape! When you get above 65/70 your fuel consumption really goes up. we average 7 miles per gallon (flat lands) average speed 65 to 70, when I push it above 70 that average drops to 5 mpg. And if pushing against a head wind it will drop even further. I have given up on staying with traffic, I would much rather have it passing me as opposed to having to lay on the brakes because some idiot makes a bad decision. I hope all of that helps! thanks for watching!!
Perfect timing! I just bought a 2014 F-150 to tow behind my F-550 Super C. I have a Blue Ox tow system so all I have to get is a base plate. I had not heard of the integrated braking system. Where did you get that at?
WHOA! that is too cool! Do you have an Omni or a Maginitude? Everything you need to tow an F150 can be found here... www.amazon.com/shop/duderv?listId=378ZGV8JEEFRY
Great video insights for this type of setup! thanks for sharing! I have a 2018 F150 4x4 I'm considering towing behind our Jayco Greyhawk 27U for vacations out in Montana. I have several mountain passes to cross. I was wondering what your performance is for your RV with the 150 in tow?
Glad it was helpful! with out the truck on the flat with no head wind we were lucky to get 9.5 mpg. towing the truck that dropped like a rock to 4.7 mpg. pulling the truck up hill or into a head wind the numbers could and would go negative. We never went up any super steep mountain passes with this set up. Raton pass was the steepest we did. Power was not an issue but the downgrades made the tranny scream.
it will really depend on your F150 and how much it weighs. If you have a crewcab you will probably be over weight. single cab probably well under the limit. The 5000 lb limit, is that the receiver hitch weight limit or the actual tow capacity of the RV? check the CVWR numbers on the data plate. and then subtract the RV's weight from that number
When I stayed in my old pos camper at Stone Mountain in Atlanta, GA they were having a prevost convention. The guy next to me somehow towed a ram 2500... I thought it was funny his toad had more capacity than my tow vehicle 😂
I wonder why nobody is using the OBD II controller for braking? The only mechanics brake on my modern vehicles is the parking brake. It may have to do with current draw. Dunno. Maybe I should design it my damn self.
@@DudeRV I spent about $400 years back on a programmer that operates via the OBD II interface. A scanner only reads. Supplying the braking system with ample power with the engine off is likely the biggest obstacle. I wouldn’t bother with biasing it. Just start with a basic 30% and tune from there.
@@rabbi7933 biasing it? what? see that is why I leave that sort of stuff to you. I kinda understand where you are going with this but since I already have to Stay N Play I have no need and when I do guess who I will call!
I have a 2018 Concord Coachman class C and I pull a 2014 Chevrolet 4x4 1500 Silverado with no problems.
I do the same thing with a dummy key, had one cut to fit my truck with no chip.
You can never be too safe! Thanks for watching!
Just for laughs and grins,,,,, when people at the gas station ask " are you actually pulling that f150 with that class C ?",,, you could say" no, , actually the f150 is pushing the motorhome." 🤪
Seriously though, this is a very informative video. 👍👍👍
Happy trails .
🙀😂😂 I LOVE it!! If I use that I do have to pay a royalty? LOL!! I am gonna do it! thanks for the idea and thanks a whole bunch for watching!!
I couldn’t see how the emergency cable would work.
Your integrated braking system was the best I’ve seen for these.
Thanks. I always wondered about all this.
the emergency brake works the same as the one on a travel trailer, when the pin is pulled out of the black box is closes a switch that applies power to the breaking module. Thanks for watching!!
@@DudeRV I have a 2004 f150 4x4 I need to tow 20 miles. It will start and idle but no acceleration due to a issue with the throttle body. Can I tow this truck with a tow strap idling and in neutral and not damage anything?
@@A.C.71 I am not a mechanic and can only recommend that you follow towing guidelines in the owners manual. Me personally, I would have no issues pulling it 20 miles. The ideal situation would be to put the transfer case into neutral, you will want the engine running to provide power steering for who ever gets the job of being pulled. Best of luck and thanks for watching!
Great Video! Thank you for your service.
Glad you found some value in this video! You are welcome and thanks for noticing the cap! Most of all thank you so much for watching and commenting!
Thank you very much. Your Duo is pretty cool. Brake Buddy is a pain.
I love the Duo! I have enough loose stuff floating around in my truck so I only wanted something that was permanent mounted/installed. Thanks for watching!
Yippie!! I can tow my F150 FX4 with my Thor Outlaw Class C! I thought that I would need to buy a tow dolly or a new small car. I love my TRUCK!! I'll be sure to research the braking module as well. Thanks for the video Dude RV!
Glad to help! Just be sure you are in flat tow mode before you start rolling, you will burn out the transmission if you just have it in neutral. thanks for watching
Execellent towing video. Appreciated the actually video while you were towing. We have a travel trailer now, but had a class C with a towed in the early 90s. Decided no more motorized RVs for us after that. Prefer separating our tow vehicle from the RV. Also, was unable to back up our Class C while towing our car. Thanks again for all the wonderful videos
I kinew I was leaving something out but could not see and you just pointed it out, you can not back up while the F150 is connected to the motor home! Thanks so much for watching!!
I have a 2004 new body F-150 4x4 regular cab short bed 4.6 V8 automatic with Borg Werner 4406 manuql shift transfer case. Thinking about taking a job where id have to tow it from location to location and drive it to a different location. In the owners manual it says not to flat tow or tow by just the front or rear wheels.
Is there a way to flat tow it?
Dude! That is way over my simple minded head so I did a little research and I found something that should help. here it is...www.irv2.com/forums/f85/flat-towing-a-2004-f150-476171.html
Do you have to leave the key on so steering wheel don’t lock if so how you keep battery up?
I have a dummy key that has no chip so even if I wanted to the truck will not start. The shift selector is left in neutral and the key is turned off. because the shifter is not in park the key can not be turned completely to the removal wheel locking position point but the power is off so the battery does not drain.
Very good video, I just did a test drive trying to tow an F150 with a Motorhome Chateau FORD E 450. When I got to the highway at 60 MPH on the rear camera, I could see F150 was steady, but the motorhome was swinging too much ....do you know if i have to do any configuration on the Motor home ?
I am not sure I understand what you mean by the motor-home "swinging" . You should not have to do any modifications on the motor home to tow a truck.
Is there a similar procedure for a Two-Wheel Drive F-150, Automatic
No sir. Only a 4x4 truck has flat tow. 2 wheel drive does not have a a transfer case.Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this. Would a 2005 lariat work the same way?
Im not sure. I think that the electronic transfer case dates from 2013 and up. If the truck is a 4x4 then you should be able to flat tow but please check with a mechanic before you make the attempt. Thanks for watching!
Ok Thank you again I was very worried about this seeing how it is all we have now .
Can u use that tow mode when pulling it on a car dolly too? (So it’s only the back wheels rolling?)
That is correct. Just know the flat tow mode is only available on the 4x4 F150 no the 2 wheel drive.
Enjoyed it Bob, not planning on any towing with a motor home anytime soon, but I still enjoy your videos 😉
you are way too kind! I really appreciate all of your support and most of all I am so very grateful to you for watching!
Can you tow a rear wheel drive F150 if you disconnect the drive shaft?
yes you can, You can actually install a drive shaft de-coupler that makes uit as easy as pulling a handle.
www.alldrivelines.com/custom-remco-drive-shafts/
EXELENT. THANKS!!!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this video! Couple of questions: what make and year Honda is that, please? And what about tow vechicle breaking solution?
Honda? what Honda?
Oops. Sorry. My mistake. I must have sent my comment to the wrong video match. Nevertheless, I thank you for your video. It was helpful.
@cowboyrickpennyfeather all good! Thanks for watching. By the way, I use the Stay And Play Dueo integrated break module.
I have over 100K miles on that unit and still love it.
Great information, and well presented. I have a question about highway speeds. Is there a limit on safe speeds? Lots of interstates these days are 75 to 80 mph now, and staying with the traffic is what I'm wondering about. If you were running at those speeds, how does it handle, will it damage the F-150? What speeds are you most comfortable with? Thank you again for the good information!
That I am aware of, there is not a mechanical "limit" on top speed. I have reach 75/80 MPH on the 95 bypass around Austin with no towing issues. Make darn sure your truck tires are in good shape! When you get above 65/70 your fuel consumption really goes up. we average 7 miles per gallon (flat lands) average speed 65 to 70, when I push it above 70 that average drops to 5 mpg. And if pushing against a head wind it will drop even further. I have given up on staying with traffic, I would much rather have it passing me as opposed to having to lay on the brakes because some idiot makes a bad decision. I hope all of that helps! thanks for watching!!
@@DudeRV Thank you for all the information, it really helps a lot!
@@JoeHTX I am so glad that I have been able to help! Thanks for watching and subbing!!
@@DudeRV You're welcome, and thank you for all the great informational videos. Much appreciated!
Don't tow at those speeds, you're asking for trouble. Don't worry about other people, drive safe.
I just bought a 2020 F150 XLT all I need now is the motorhome
Great choice! You look like a super c kinda guy! LOL!! thanks for watching!!
Maybe you could sell me yours
@@davidmccormick9022 Happy to! $72K
Perfect timing! I just bought a 2014 F-150 to tow behind my F-550 Super C. I have a Blue Ox tow system so all I have to get is a base plate. I had not heard of the integrated braking system. Where did you get that at?
WHOA! that is too cool! Do you have an Omni or a Maginitude? Everything you need to tow an F150 can be found here...
www.amazon.com/shop/duderv?listId=378ZGV8JEEFRY
Do you prefer the Stay in Play or the Demco. I have an Alpha towing system BX7365.
@@arthurkinchen5126 the Stay N Play is from Demco I am also using the Demco Comander 2 tow bar
That awesome.. do you still have the class C?
We have moved into a Thor Magnitude super C. I still have the F150 though. Thanks for watching!
Great video insights for this type of setup! thanks for sharing! I have a 2018 F150 4x4 I'm considering towing behind our Jayco Greyhawk 27U for vacations out in Montana. I have several mountain passes to cross. I was wondering what your performance is for your RV with the 150 in tow?
Glad it was helpful! with out the truck on the flat with no head wind we were lucky to get 9.5 mpg. towing the truck that dropped like a rock to 4.7 mpg. pulling the truck up hill or into a head wind the numbers could and would go negative. We never went up any super steep mountain passes with this set up. Raton pass was the steepest we did. Power was not an issue but the downgrades made the tranny scream.
@@DudeRV at what speed tho (mpg)?
@@mehmetdtx with this set-up top speed on the flat was around 65 MPH, climbing the mountains it dropped to like 30MPH
Wondering what was the 1st year Ford put this Tow System on the 4x4 F150's?
I think they started including this in 2013 but dont quote me on that. thanks for watching!
@@DudeRV Thanks
Is that the original hitch on the rv?
That was the original receiver on the coach. it was rated for 7K LBS. Thanks for watching!
What years will this work on?
I think 2013 and newer. Thanks for watching!
Where did you get the dummy key? Thanks
I went to a lock smith and had it made. thanks for watching
what is a dummy key?
you did not talk about the red power able? I don't think there is a plug for that in front of my F-150.
The umbilical connects to a trailer light harness. The "trailer light bulbs" are inset into the truck tail light housing.
Great Video and very informative as always Bob... well done!
Glad you enjoyed it! I hope it helps some folks figure it out. thanks for watching!
If my RV has a 5,000lb limit could I still flat tow the f150?
it will really depend on your F150 and how much it weighs. If you have a crewcab you will probably be over weight. single cab probably well under the limit.
The 5000 lb limit, is that the receiver hitch weight limit or the actual tow capacity of the RV? check the CVWR numbers on the data plate. and then subtract the RV's weight from that number
When I stayed in my old pos camper at Stone Mountain in Atlanta, GA they were having a prevost convention. The guy next to me somehow towed a ram 2500... I thought it was funny his toad had more capacity than my tow vehicle 😂
That is funny! He must have installed a drive shaft disconnect. Thanks for watching!!
I heard the tow battery can no die either or the tranny goes out of tow mode
I have not had any issues pulling the truck across the US. thanks for watching!
brake required in 49 states and all of Canada
Thanks for that info and thanks a bunch for watching!
I tow F-150s alot. Usually to the scrap yard, where they belong.
Good video, though, man.
I guess you not a Ford man. Thanks for watching!
@DudeRV I'm not. Still a useful video though. Haha
I wonder why nobody is using the OBD II controller for braking? The only mechanics brake on my modern vehicles is the parking brake.
It may have to do with current draw. Dunno. Maybe I should design it my damn self.
Perhaps you should! It is my understanding that the OBD is outbound data only, but what do I know. Thanks for watching!!
@@DudeRV I spent about $400 years back on a programmer that operates via the OBD II interface. A scanner only reads.
Supplying the braking system with ample power with the engine off is likely the biggest obstacle.
I wouldn’t bother with biasing it. Just start with a basic 30% and tune from there.
@@rabbi7933 biasing it? what? see that is why I leave that sort of stuff to you. I kinda understand where you are going with this but since I already have to Stay N Play I have no need and when I do guess who I will call!
@@DudeRV controlling the power ration to something. So I brake at 50% on the Rig and the toad would brake at 25%. 100%=60%. Etc. A gradient.
great tutorial but forgot to tell us not to backup while flat towing 😮
I back up, dont go far and dont try to turn. It helps if you tie off the towed steering wheel. thanks for watching!
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LOL!! thanks for watching!
You could have said all that in Half the time .no thanks
I appreciate you taking the time to provide such a helpful critique of my work.
All we wanba know is ur tow bar...not ur pride
My pride? What?
This video has so many transitions it’s like watching an acid trip
So you would rather have dead air, back ground noise and/or me breathing into the mic instead of a transition?