The Past We Can Never Return To - The Anthropocene Reviewed
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In September of 1940, an 18-year-old mechanic named Marcel Ravidat was walking his dog, Robot, in the countryside of Southwestern France when the dog disappeared down a hole. Robot eventually returned but the next day, Ravidat went to the spot with three friends to explore the hole.
And after quite a bit of digging, they discovered a cave with walls covered with paintings, including over 900 paintings of animals, horses, stags, bison and also species that are now extinct, including a wooly rhinoceros. The paintings were astonishingly detailed and vivid with red, yellow and black paint made from pulverized mineral pigments that were usually blown through a narrow tube, possibly a hollowed bone, onto the walls of the cave. It would eventually be established that these artworks were at least 17,000 years old.
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Found a Kurgesagt comment with 1 like :O
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Wow this is a new comment
It took you an year to write this
hi
"If you've ever been a child"
As someone born at the age of 24, I can't relate to this
At age 6, I was born without a face.
I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter nice reference mate! ONE OF US
Your poor mother!
Most people are still a child at 30, much less at 24
Some say that the first 40 years of childhood are the worst.
John: why are there only paintings of animals ? ?
Cavemen: well painting faces IS PRETTY FRICKIN HARD, JOHN
Died reading this
@@smug1798 They probably just used actually sticks
I agree
Unga bunga
Animals were the original anime OC's
"This a handprint, but not a hand. This is a memory you can't return to." This made me cry somehow.
dude same
It hits hard
@@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708 Exactly
You're not alone
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Imagine those kids thinking, "We need to protect this" as the entire rest of their world was being torn to pieces. Pretty amazing.
The very story of teenagers being so moved by what they saw that they did such a non-teenager thing: spending a year lovingly protecting cultural art - moved me strongly as well
@@incendior I think it's pretty much a teenager thing, as teenagers are also humans. Plus, I know several teenagers who camped in forests and moors to protect them from destruction.
I am also deeply moved by their action and the whole video
It would've probably been amazing to be those teenagers, experiencing it for the first time, or second time, I guess.
@@markhenley3097 Well, it inspired them tp protected it, even as their world was being torn to pieces.
It sounds like it'd make an absolutely incredible movie.
Like The Goonies but with Nazis.
Thanks to everyone at kurzgesagt for the extraordinarily moving animations and sound design. And I so appreciate the kind words about our work. I personally learn so much from kurzgesagt, as do my kids--not just about neutron stars and ants, but about how to approach the universe with curiosity and intellectual rigor.
EDIT: Some people below have asked what this video is about. Fair question! It is mostly about the Lascaux Cave Paintings, of course, but I wrote it because I wanted to explore why we study history, and what we do and do not learn from looking at the distant past. Every record of the past is incomplete, and our personal experiences inevitably shape our understanding of what happened before us, and I think the history of Lascaux shows a lot of the nuances and complexities that accompany the study of history. I wanted the essay to be about how much we don't know and will never know when it comes to history, but why it is still productive and important to consider what we have of a historical record.
p.s. A new episode of The Anthropocene Reviewed comes out this Thursday, and a backlog of 25ish episodes is available for free wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks. -John
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I suggested years ago to make this hand symbol a symbol for humans from earth.
Like a flag or something. But would it picture the right hand or left hand or perhaps both?
Liked your contribution to this story
Sir John Green. From Philippines here. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY. I'm an IT I learned computing through crash course! And when I wad in highschool I learned biology and chemistry through your channels. I still have them downloaded on my pc.
Sir, you are the best teacher. You are fun and not boring! 😍
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This was a very moving story. I did a double take when you mentioned Jung - have you checked out his Red Book? It's his own personal fantasies and illustrations, all in a beautiful illuminated script and a gigantic folio manuscript. I know you're not a Jungian, but it's one of the strangest works of the last century and just worth looking at as art for sure!
The hook- it was written in 1915 but only released from a vault in Zurich in 2009!
“No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.” - Heraclitus
Wise words, and true words
I'm confused at not the same man part. Pls explain ty
@@sakatagintoki5895 it meant that you cannot experience the same moment twice
@@sakatagintoki5895 Through life, we change. Not just physically in that we age, but the person you are now knows and understands differently than the person you were. Think of places you have been at different times in your life, and how you perceived them differently because of your experiences. Words and pictures can be recorded, but thoughts and perceptions are fleeting, and change as we change.
@@sakatagintoki5895 every experience changes you a little. you are not the same person before and after reading this comment.
"ALMOST AS IF ART ISN'T OPTIONAL FOR HUMANS."
This is good, and should be spread far and wide.
I also really liked this line
I like to believe it isn't optional. I think art is an intrinsical part of out human nature that would is present in every culture, past, present and future.
this touched me very deeply
in the midst of the struggle to survive, humans will still make art
I personally have a drive that is allways tugging on me, to make something anything to just create. So I do believe that there is a drive for art in all forms.
What does this say about religion?
This made me feel similar to the “throwing a rock into a lake may seem simple but you could be the last person to touch that rock till the end of time” thing
ohhh... wow!!! Never thought of it this way.
“...today we’re gonna do something different...”
Me: So no existential crisis and depressive nihilism today...?
They almost had us in the first half
...not gonna lie
This is this entire channel summed up in one comments
I mean.. it's kinda nice?
Don’t: Comment
Like: This
It’s: Obnoxious
existensial crisis is for dumbasses
20k years later : scientists are confused why there is 2 caves with almost the same cave art
Unfortunately, because so many people have visited the two caves, some damage has occurred to them. Therefore, we must build two identical caves so that people can still experience them.
1.5m years later: An aboveground complex of identical human "art" is crudely copied across an expanse of usable land. The glixaxan alliance razes the earth and turns it into an interstellar parking lot.
@@michellegodwin6567 He knows. He's saying that archaeologists from the future would be confused by it.
Nice
@@TheEnderLeader1 He knows. He's saying that they must build two identical caves so that people can still experience them.
This honestly gave me a sort of...existential melancholic longing.
Dr. Bright experiencing existential crisis? Damn, 2021 is something.
@@solomonreal1977 Lmfao. Dr Bright is a popular SCP character but alright lol
@@solomonreal1977 imagine trying to sound profound just to insult 🤣👌👌👌
@@joelcorreia9183 thanks for calling me out man, it's been a weird year for everyone but I've been being stupid. I took it down. I'm sure there's lots of dumb stuff like this out there. Bleh
Again, thanks. And sorry. Sorry everyone. Sorry Dr. Bright
@@solomonreal1977 Good for you man. For real.
When I started watching this video, I didn't realise how emotional it would make me...
"This is a handprint, but not a hand. This is a memory you can't return to." Isn't that going to be us one day? A beautiful, unattainable memory.
Yes, the whole of humanity will be just a memory imprinted on the earth. Even that will be gone eventually, and then it will be as if we didn't exist at all.
I also got more emotional than I expected to while watching this, glad I'm not alone.
reject modernity, embrace tradition
@@mozambique9113Conservative?
"we hoped you liked it"
-*teary eyes*.... a little..!
Lunique Kero omg sameeee 😉😭
I'm not crying, You're crying! 😥
meeeee huhu
This video was emotional 😞
im just cutting onions
"If you ever been a child"
Me: Wow he is talking directly to me
@O 99 The last thing we was is a child
*former child*
Dude thought the same thing
nope.. coincidence!
My favorite story about these handprint walls is that because they are negatives, the handprints look a little bigger than the hands were, so for a little too long they claimed children and most women didn’t take part. But there’s a handprint of a child much too high for them to have reached on their own, so they must’ve sat on an adults shoulders to reach. I just will always hold that image close to my heart
Just burst into tears reading this
The idea that some human emotions were always there like care for children and their childish curiosity is heartwarming.
@@newbie4789there is something of a joke from Sumer some 8,000 years ago about how dogs want you to throw the thing but don't want to give you the thing. We've always been humans.
@@CircusFoxxo The oldest piece of written language is a customer complaint of how the copper ingots he purchased aren't of the quality he was promised - carved into a stone tablet.
@@Alizudo there's also Norse runes somewhere I don't remember that read "this is quite high" or something similar. We've always been the same.
Imagine the family in the cave when one of their own dies. They would grieve their loss and with tears in their eyes place their hand on the print of their relative's hand on the wall.
now that you say it, it could be an explanation.
I think I've seen this idea before ... maybe in an animation about a small dinosaur idk
@@sun-hi111 the good dinosaur?
This hit hard, damn
It makes total sense. Especially in a figurative way. They didn’t print the hand itself, since that would mean your presence, and their presence on earth is extremely short (even shorter than ours nowadays), so they printed the opposite. The negative print would mean your absence… it would mean how other people feel, it would mean how much people miss you… represents both the feeling of being part of something, completing the whole (and literally the room, the clan, the family), and also the feeling of being the missing part… the hand that had to be there to fill the painting but it isn’t anymore
It's weird because John Green was speaking but the acoustics in my house made it sound like I was crying.
Maybe he was cutting onions right haha
@@haomakk Squidward left his onions there.
those damn acoustics
Those were not the acoustics tho
@@thibaut2 no? what were they then?
_“We all have our time machines, don't we. Those that take us back are memories... And those that carry us forward, are dreams.”_
― H.G. Wells & Jeremy Irons.
EDIT: I put Jeremy Irons because of the way he quoted that line on the movie. Don't be so serious. 😁
They said it at unison or something?
@@mrcrisme A quote from the movie perhaps
@@TheRealMirCat Or maybe a book they wrote together? I don't really know if either of them ever co-authored a book, but it's possible.
thats a beautiful quote
Take out Jeremy Iron’s name. Your crediting him for a quote an author wrote.
Every single time I watch this video it makes me cry. Like even if I try my hardest to not cry, I find my eyes welling with tears.
Standing in front of cave paintings or petroglyphs is such a moving experience. And John Green really accurately portrayed why it is so moving. I have tried to explain to people why these things are important or why I feel so emotional, but I never had the words for it. And listening to John is the closest I can get to expressing that overwhelming sense of time. It feels both very distant and yet very intimate.
There is another cave in France called Chauvet-Pont-d'Arc Cave. Werner Herzog made a documentary of it called, "Cave of Forgotten Dreams." In that documentary, they interviewed scientists who determined that some of the paintings were 20,000 years old but some were as old as 40,000 years old. And that astonished me because the distance *in time* that we are to the people who made the paintings 20,000 years ago is the same distance *in time* that they were to those of 40,000 years ago. This means the people who made those 20,000-year-old paintings were coming upon paintings in the same way we are now. We often lump time together, thinking that people from 40,000 and 20,000 years ago were relatively close...but they weren't. There were just as many thousands of generations between 40-20 thousand years as there are from 20 thousand to now. Which means they must have looked at those paintings with a similar kind of wonderment. They must have also wondered who the painters were and what they were trying to say. To assume the people of 40,000 years ago were the same as the people as 20,000 years ago would be a mistake. Yes, they may have lived similarly, but I doubt the culture stayed the same in those thousands of years. There is a marked difference between different generations of people today...so many of those ancient people must have been just as perplexed by some of the paintings as we are now.
I love these types of videos and I think the graphics complimented John Green's words perfectly.
One caveat: those of 20k years ago wouldn't have known how old the others were, though it's possible they had the sense of not recent.
I could tell you what they was thinking
I know oral stories that have great in knowing how these people thought.
@@shiverarts8284 do share?
@@morosis82 Yes, I was going to say similar. But they would be separated culturally by changes in climate/flora/fauna at least, and be a different lineage of people, or if not, maybe they had some oral tradition that informed their interpretation of artwork that old. Plus, they definitely knew what they were looking at better than civilized people 40,000 years in the future lol. I'd like to think they felt inspired or connected though.
This comment made ME cry (not that the video didn't but yknow)
The fact that kid in 1940 had a dog named Robot was definitely a note worth keeping in... for some reason I never thought an 18 year old in 1940 would be familiar with the concept of an autonomous robot
Science fiction already existed as a genre in the 19th century.
"the modern term robot derives from the Czech word robota (“forced labour” or “serf”), used in Karel Čapek’s play R.U.R. (1920)." in Britannica.
@@infotrafficwow, i thought i was the only one who knew where it came from.
@@infotraffic robota does just mean work. Actually, no nevermind, the meaning might have changed over time.
Imagine just checking out a cave with your friends and finding untouched history from thousands of years ago. That must’ve been such an incredible and larger than life feeling
And now imagine it's 1940 and there's every possibility it could get bombed into oblivion during the war. That's enough to give anyone anxiety.
@@amandas2639 my friend's granduncle served in the battle of the Atlantic, imagine just sailing in the royal navy looking out for fellow cargo ships then suddenly you could blow up by a random German battleship anytime, pretty scary man
the choice would be daunting too, interact with it and be the first person in thousands of years to touch that handprint and in a way continue that realisation that they were not so different, or let it be and not spoil its massive streak of being untouched
@@osianshirley7175 true, if i were them i wouldnt have told anyone
@@letsb3nameless665 probably the best choice, but then id also worry about it being lost again so id probably tell some close friends so they could see it once and then get in touch with some museum or something so they could go about preserving it properly
Wow at the end when John stopped talking i just remembered this was a Kurzgesagt video. He did a super good job
Yes. And it anyhow fitted really good into the kurzgesagt environment
Same!
But... He never brought up skoodalibooping.
YES that was so amazing
When people ask me why I want to be an anthropologist, I think about cave paintings. I think about how art is present in almost every human society to ever live. I think about how, in Pompeii, there's graffiti on the walls that say "I was here." I think about how we seem to have always told stories to each other. I think about how there are many stories to tell, and sometimes the people of the past need a little help to be heard.
... How do I pursue a career like this?
“Almost as if art is not optional for humans”
“Food feeds the body, *_art_** feeds the soul* ”
“Art is not optional for humans.”
What a profoundly underrated line.
Agreed
Not something I'd thought about before, but we really can't avoid it.
We enjoy it.
That John Green, maybe he should write a book.
Made me think
Good thing I'm not human
It seems to me that humanity has always had a drive to record their own existence by whatever way we know. We want to be remembered by those who come after.
Maybe it was just evolutionarily advantageous to want to pass on your knowledge to your offspring. Our ability to create/use tools and communicate about the things around us is a lot more useful that way.
This is the closest we can get to being immortal-being remembered by others.
You'll all be forgotten, especially Gen Z. None of you have done anything original. I do wish we could go back to the 40s when women understood the alpha male patriarchy and technology had not yet advanced to the point that they could go on social media apps and dating sites and handpick girly beta males. Feminism is why the human population will decrease substantially, especially in America, in the coming decades. Women need to succumb to real men and apologize for their narcissistic and promiscuous behavior.
@@Zenigundam I can't even begin to describe how idiotic that statement was
so first of all: ok boomer, cause you earned it
no one from gen z will be remembered? so what? I wouldn't mind being forgotten
I'd rather just live life while I have it, I don't gain anything from being remembered when I'm already dead
we haven't even lived one third of our lives, yet you expect us to have done something memorable already
newsflash buddy, you won't be remembered either, especially not for comments like that
Look whos talking
The end message of this video "You will know, this is not the thing itself, but a shadow of it. This is a hand-print, but not a hand. This is a memory you cannot return to."
Is one of the most poetic things I've ever read.
"...it's as if art isn't optional for humans."
Art _isn't_ optional for humans. It's a psychological imperative. Art is how we expel excess creativity during times when we have nothing productively creative to work on (i.e. inventions). For people who are prone to creativity and also lack technical skills, art is the only thing that keeps them sane -- and even then it isn't always enough.
If art isn't optional, then why do most people produce no art at all?
@@xyzzyxyzzy2 People produce art in different ways. Either by making videos, making buildings, making computer programs, making gardens, making people happy, etc. Art doesn't have to be drawing.
@@xyzzyxyzzy2 Even if people don’t create art, they certainly appreciate it. Music, drawings, inventions, making clothes, writing, and etc are all forms of art that we either create or consume. We need art to express ourselves and we need it to enjoy life.
@@jamesmnguyen wow...you're right
Creating art requires a skill set. It is just a different skill set possessed by engineers and inventors. Please do not belittle art in this manner
"we hope you liked this video"
me, shedding some tears: okay yes
adorable
i literraly got tears
Yeah that ending was really powerful and almost had me in tears
Like I’m emotional as fuck now
Kurzgesagt and John Green are both incredibly talented and impactful educators because they have the remarkably magical ability to make us humans feel emotional about the existence of ourselves and our world.
“Just the act of looking at something can ruin it, I guess.”
Schrödinger: ay this man spittin’!
Hahaha
It was Descartes who said "we murder to dissect".
@Typed Scroll haha wavefunction go brrrr
The cat is aliven't.
Quantum physicists: you're goddamn right.
To be very honest, I almost cried during the entire video. Something about it just made me very emotional
Same ;-;
It is called music . Dw. It makes me cry everytime, even though I watched this more than 50 times since it aired
same
Even though I've rewatched this video several times by now it still hits me hard once the realization sets in that such a hand print was made by somebody just as human as any of us. This has led to another thought occuring in my head; the person who'd made the handprint could've been one of my parents or sibling. However, it also left me feeling an inexplicable homesickness to return to that moment and to get to know this person who could be my distant ancestor.
Edit: I've always had the idea that these handstencils were made as a kind of memorial possibly also part of a ritual of coming into adulthood. "I was there, and please do not forget about me, remember me". Not too far fetched if I say so myself considering how harsh life was back then. With no writing (or none preserved throughout the centuries) it may have been the only way to keep the memory of you alive when you've "joined the ancestors" as is likely a common corner stone of their religion/beliefs (which is a common trait of ancient faiths and beliefs).
Survival would be something to be very proud of back then. You also almost certainly didnt live old enough to watch your kids come of age back then so it could be a form of connecting with their ancestors as well. Or some kind of celebration for surviving another year
"We have invented nothing" -Picasso
Goddamn
I dont undrestand
@@MR-ff2pq basically a nod to the creations of humanity. Whatever has been created, or we thought of: our ancestors thought of a rudimentary version of it. Sure we think of larger and more exotic things they have, but look at the similarities. We create art, while they had so long ago. They made technology, so are we now. In the basis of all things, we haven't invented anything for it already was made BEFORE us. Art is made by nature, and that's why nothing has occured. But hey, I'm just a nerd don't mind my take on it!
@@hunterofthenorth4482 thank you
@@MR-ff2pq np homie
@@hunterofthenorth4482 that, my fried was deep. Also I agree, and the patterns of nature follow the rules of the universe.
I remember some years ago walking round a local castle with my dad. He pointed at the stones and said "A man put those there. I wonder what his name was" and I've never been able to look at the past the same way again
I think the same thing about stone-henge. In Japan, I remember a castle had the names of a carpenter etched in on beams. Don't know whether it was considered acceptable or not lol.
@@qus.9617 european stone masons actually had personal marks they would put on stone blocks as well
@@qus.9617 Not sure about the "acceptable" part, but Japan has a rich history of woodworking, they figured out pretty elaborate ways to fasten pieces of wood together using geometry and some carpenters likely had their own secret methods, so having unique signatures kind of like a trademark is probably not far off either.
I live in a house built in 1432 and I wish these walls could talk. The people and events this house has been through...
@@pixeltrance 1432...for real!
I almost cried at that final sentence. "This is a memory we can't go back to." Existential dread doesn't even BEGIN to describe how that felt.
The scale of human history, the sum of every individual’s story, each one a full life, a world unto itself, is overwhelming and awe-inspiring. Like a galaxy of billions of stars.
I've never seen a shorter 8 minutes video, this was so well narrated.
He is from Mars
Imagine if he had Morgan Freeman in one of his videos?
Wait, what? That were 8 minutes?!... o.O I sat down, listened and it was fnished...
I'm a big fan of John green's anthropocene reviewed for a long time. Check out his podcast, it's amazing.
الشاقب ملک
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"Just the act of looking at something can ruin it, I guess."
*Quantum Mechanics has entered the chat*
can you explain please
For now. Maybe the future will allow measurement without interference.
@@benjaminchukwujama5259 At the atomic level of zoom you still need light to observe where things are. But the photons of light hitting a small object(like an electron) changes their path. So basically if you try to look at very small things you change the thing itself.
@@benjaminchukwujama5259 look up the observer effect
@@benjaminchukwujama5259 Double split experiment.
“Infinity war is the greatest crossover of all time”
Kurzgesagt and John Green:
It pains me a little because they left those to tell us 'WE WERE HERE' but we don't want to see them because we want to preserve that 'THEY WERE THERE'
It's not because "we don't want to see them" but because if we keep going, eventually there will be nothing to see. By not going, their hand prints will go on for as long as they can.
It pains me more that if they allow people to visit it people will destroy it within a year no boubt
Kurzgesagt: *apologizes for not having a normal video
Also Kurzgesagt: Puts hours into designing music and animations
You guys are incredible 👏 💙🥇
It's great but the like to dislike ratio is actually relatively low. (only 98.2% likes instead of >99%)
@@malumy ok? you know some people disagree
I was expecting a simple animation but they as usual under promised and over delivered
I usually forget to but this made me like the video just in spite of the people disliking xd
If you want to only hear the Soundtrack search Epic Mountain Music on UA-cam, they are the one who made it
Every Kurzgesagt video:
-Facts
-Scares you
-Then calms you down
-Add birds
Literally tho.
True
👏👏........ dude come on this is on EVERY video 👏👏
Either that or:
-Nukes
-More nukes
-Even more nukes
-Add marinias trench
-Add alien beans
true but the ways it present things biology history facts "future" is just ... well interesting... i watched with cousin (11y) few videos including this while i tried my best to translate and he actually found it interesting i wish that there would be a lot more videos like Kurzgesagt and with more professional translations even for young/er people ... i may have set my future as simple manufacturing man and find this videos interesting but younger generations will be affected a lot more and maybe ... who knows one day i will see earth from above for cheap cash :D
I effing love this story - I was actually introduced to it via the 99 Percent Invisible podcast and I wanted to show it to other friends and family, but it's so different trying to get someone to listen to something without them getting visually distracted. So I love that there's one of your beautiful animations to accompany it now!
I don't know if it's the subject, the narration or the animation that made me cry watching this video. It was awesome.
The narrator was so good. The ending nearly made me cry when I think about how there are people that can never return and are now only a part of one's memory. The handprints were like mementos of the people in the past. Forgotten in memory but never in spirit.
I would recommend you check out his (John Green’s) podcast, The Anthropocene Reviewed, as they mentioned at the end of the video
the 'whole thing' nearly made me cry :'(
yeah hes the dude from crash course, i didnt even know he was the guy we were watching in school while i slept in class, i regret that now
I shed some tears xD Ive gotten worse holding those in for these things
Wow this is interesting. The video seems like a personal essay, I will definitely use inspiration from this to write my last English essay for my final grade. Wish me luck!
When he said "its almost as if art is not an option for humans but a requirement" i was shook
Art is everywhere, almost as if it's a genetic behavior we keep.
I think since we're the only species with consciousness, it's a need in us to document and leave something behind as a legacy. Since ancient humans didn't knew how to write, they chose to paint it instead. It's like an archive of how many people that particular tribe had.
@Arya Stark many creatures have consciousness. A good example that most people know of is a dog, dogs are aware of the environment and react to it and are thus conscious of it. If you mean self-awareness then off the top of my head i know Elephants have self-awareness.
I certainly stopped and thought at that part. Music is the same way. No one really thinks about it, pretty much every human likes music. We listen to it for entertainment, it appears in movies and advertisements, it's played during celebrations, and it even appears in educational documentaries and in professional environments. Music appears across all societies no matter how developed they are. But why?
I'd like to watch a video on that, anyway.
@@FrostySprite Humans like patterns so much we're constantly finding them where they don't exist, it only seems natural we'd enjoy patterns in all of our senses.
Ive watched this video a couple times now and every time I watch it I tear up. Its probably my favorite video on your channel
John Greene and his brother Hank have always spoken so eloquently and in such a way that I can't help but to be captivated.
“This is a handprint, but not a hand”
Ok damn
Thats like stuff on a vsauce level
Look for The Treachery of Images by René Magritte
@@unnamedperson8619 i wouldnt call it that level higher than a Vsause level a
Kurzgesagt level
That reminds me of The Fault in Our Stars, actually. That book is full of what are known as “metaphorical representations” of everyday things. That handprint is not a hand, sure, but it _is_ a metaphorical representation of it. Unless you understand that, the phrasing John used at the end there does seem a bit strange. Hope this helps.
Ceci n'est pas une main.
This feels like when your teacher lets the class watch a movie not related to the unit. I love it.
We're allowed to drink Coca-Cola in history class.
Mari Mcm so these are things that people thousands of years ago created and sometimes they are the only record of what these ancient people accomplished, we close them off to protect there legacy, it’s a part of history, and in the case of this cave, people actually did agree to this, also beaches are being closed because it’s a health risk to go to them, do you want to catch a potentially lethal virus there, the government doesn’t seem to want that for you
@Mari Mcm i
I think i lost braincells reading this... What..????
@Mari Mcm I agree with you, the earth is not even real, its an ilusion, there is no moon, no stars, everything is a lie, the real question is ¿Would you like the blue pill or the red pill? (?
@Mari Mcm You had me but lost me as soon as you turned religious in your statement.
This was unbelievably beautiful. Goosebumps the whole time. Incredibly moving. Thank you!
dude first time I've ever commented on a youtube post... and honestly i literally cried watching this, so beautiful. hell of a message gave me chills to conceptualize such thought.
Crazy how art is prolific across all human history. Like a timeless language that speaks to everyone, no matter when or where we're from.
Well that explains anime
And look at me now, using it to intentionally draw horribly even though I can do better, and write "u gay" next to it.
Yeah and some of the earliest art was apparently Air Brushing lol
Feels like during all of humanity. Math and art seem always be around.
"Whatever is human isn't alien to me."
I rewatch this every now and then. It always makes me emotional. It humanises history, the billions of people who have lived and died between the people who made those paintings and it brings a new meaning to art. Maybe art is just a human instinct.
Well you should totally listen to the podcast
@@sarveshdhiman9918 why r u saying this on every comment?
@@RedStone_Cake it's a good podcast
if you want more humanizing history John Green's book is full of it
On nights I can't sleep, I return to this video. It is undoubtedly one of the most beautiful things on UA-cam. Thank you all involved
Wow. That was actually very interesting and kind of mind opening to listen to. The things he wrote are a perfect way to describe the feeling of going on in time and looking back.
Wow. His voice sounds so different when he’s not doing Crash Course videos. John Green is crazy smart and insightful.
It's because Hank Green is the one who appears on Crash Course videos, John Green is his brother and the author of many best-sellers like The Fault in Our Stars
@@javierfarinella3458 John used to be on Crash Course as well. He did the World History and U.S. History series. Most people know CC from John's videos.
@@javierfarinella3458 John also appears in some Crash Course videos. His voice does sound very different in The Anthropocene Reviewed, I think it has a lot to do with the format. It's more of a narration than most of the other content he's in.
@@SuperSixel didn't know that, thanks for clarifying! It must be that i've mostly watched chemistry and psychology videos
Both John and Hank have a slow, relaxing format show now: if you know them from their high energy work like Crash Course and Dear Hank and John, it's worth checking out The Anthropocene Reviewed (John, podcast) and Journey to the Microcosmos (Hank, UA-cam) for a very different experience. It's cool to see them both branching out.
John Green: fills people with existential dread with stories about the emotional pain of loss and emptiness
Kurzgesagt: talks about the end of existence and all-powerful celestial mysteries but with cute birds and a bouncy tone
Combined: fills us with existential dread while making faceless people with missing fingers look pretty and colorful
😂
STFU.
@@tomwalker389 No U
No y r y'all always complaining about 'existencial dread' like bruh he's just talking bout some cave paintings my guy
bruh a video can literally be like "you are eternal" and niggas will still be filled with existential dread smh
This is...BEAUTIFUL. John Green is great, and this is a great example. Great colab, thank you Kurzgesagt for this change of pace!
This video is probably one of the videos I think was the most influencing on me, while the others are cool and all, this one affected me deep inside and emotionally, John Green's voice over just sold this so much more with how he speaks and the emotion he puts into it, and years later I periodically rewatch this just because it still affects me the exact same way. I really hope we get more videos similar to the style of this one, and maybe John Greens return occasionally for voice overs.
Go listen to the anthropocene reviewed podcast or audiobook! There is a lot more of this style and almost all of it makes me cry (in a good way). Googling strangers and sunsets are good episodes with similar feels
"Art isn't optional for humans"
That struck something in me. I'm not sure what, but....something
In my own take of it, it seems like he was saying that expression is apart of all of us, and that is art, because are is expression. I guess.
Same here
Same, sometimes words cannot describe certain things
Exactly, wow...
It is a spiritual need. We all need to create. It is part of what makes us human.
history teacher: talks about Lascaux
me: emotionless
Kurzgesagt: talks about Lascaux
me: *tears streaming down my cheeks*
This is why teachers are invaluable. The ability to convey knowledge through depth, emotion, and passion is a rare gift.
lmao I know the feel
I don’t know why make me cry
Bruh
Well, I love Kurzgesagt but this is all John Green ;)
It really moved me. Thank you so much.
I was absolutely over whelmed by this video, and that is a great compliment. Thank you 💓
Why is it so satisfying to hear the duck going “Quack!” and see it floating in space at the end of every Kurtzgesagt video? 😁
It gives a sense of nostalgia even though we’re in the moment now currently, but I bet looking back at these videos I’m watching now as a 14 year old will bring even more nostalgia 🙃
wow. i never realize the duck quack at the end of every video
Oh, glad I'm not the only one lol
Tiyān Quāis Tsariťsyan Buragohain simp
the chirp is what gets me
Imagine if the handprints were just a convenient way for the artist to test they had the consistency of the pigment correct enough to paint with, and we’re all marvelling over test sprays.
In that case, it is extremely interesting why such a test is done over a hand (instead of a rock, a leaf, or just spray straight on the wall) in so many different isolated regions.
Exactly
@@maggiewang2888 its convenient! i think its so normal to just stick your hand out and use it. instead of finding a leaf and holding it over the wall, it's so much easier (and arguably more fun) to just use your hand.
@@tworice yeah, probably their hands got covered with painting either way all time
Is this the most compelling argument for why author intent doesn't necessarily affect the meaning of art? Perhaps...
There is something incredibly deep and touching about this video that I was not expecting, and I was deeply saddened in a way. This was absolutely incredible, and I have to say that I've never subscribed to a channel this fast.
This video has a surprisingly deep meaning. Well done!
7:30 "This is a memory you cannot return to."
My dad died last week, and this video made me think of his legacy in a new way- it made me cry.
I'm very sorry for your loss. I'm sure he's an amazing man. May he rest in peace in Heaven.
**Instantly pushes the golden buzzer**
R.I.P.
Your dad miss you and hope you live well.
My dog passed away on February. I miss her with all my heart.
I feel your pain. No amount of torture can amount to something as bad as loosing someone you love.
STOP DUDE, I'M LITERALLY CRYING TO A HAND ON A WALL
@@sarveshdhiman9918 tf?
@@ta.346 if my tf you mean that's a strange name for an episode... Well. In the podcast the guy reviews random things. Out of 5 stars. Things like Canadian geese, taco bell breakfast menu, Kentucky bluegrass and we'll, the act of googling strangers. If that's not what you mean, I have no idea what you mean.
CRY HARDER I STILL THIRST
YOUR NOT THE ONLY ONE!!!
think of it this way, your crying to a CARTOON of a DUPLICATE of a STENCIL of a hand on a wall.
Going to visit Lascaux II this summer and stumbled upon this video by Kurzgesagt. What a beautiful recite of the ancient art! The animations are simple and impactful. You really done an amazing job!
That was very moving and thought provoking. What a beautiful video.
This channel is just like a teacher who genuinely enjoys his job and so do his students
"What about the droid attack on wookies?"
Yes :)
@@Yes-dc2gm what about the clone attack on the jedi?
Copied
wait a teacher like that exists?
4:49 "Yet somehow they still made time to create art, almost as if art isn't optional for humans."
That's quite a thing to consider, that despite all their daily struggles of finding, hunting, and gathering enough food to survive winters, wild animals and frostbite and disease and injury, the dangers of childbirth and childhood, they still took the time to make art.
This somehow moved me so much that my eyes had welled up.
Thank you, and thanks for a new podcast I can listen to!
Thank you Thomas. Me too. And then I had to search out your comment in hopes I was not alone.
Art is the highest form of hope - Gerard Richter
The quote and the last two sentences were all you needed to write.
Hunter gatherers had more free time than working people have today. They had more time and energy for art than an average person has now.
Well, yeah... but hunter-gatherer societies may not be as dangerous as you think of it ^^
First, they were probably in a better health than the first agriculturals, maybe not as good as us with modern medicine, but still. According to studies, the life expectancy was higher during Paleolithic than during the Iron and Bronze age, and the average human was as tall as us today (size is an indication of nutrition).
And we also think that they passed as much time hunting and gathering than agriculturals passed time to culture plants ^^
In addition, not every human had to hunt or gather, most of them did, but they probably already had specialists, for example the silex sculpter was probably a professionnal, because the late techniques of stone-making were very advanced. The artists could also be professionnals, or some kind of priests or shamans.
Oh man. This is among my favorite Anthro Reviewed eps and it always resonates with me, but somehow on this Nth time experiencing it I got really emotional and teary-eyed at the end there. John Green always hits me in the emotions when I least expect it!
Lovely animation of a lovely podcast. I am here at Kurzgesagt channel because John and Hank have spoken so highly of it... enjoying my time here immensely! Optimistic Nihilism is definitely my vibe. Love your work!
I was not prepared for how deep this was going to be, and it's a relaxing kind of feel that made my brain wrinkly.
"We hope you like the video"
I cried.
I was about to cry too!
I was wondering why I cried but it seems I'm not alone in that
I almost cry xd
I am tearing up little too
"Art. Isn't. Optional."
Another 20.000 years into the future:
"Why did our ancestors build a replica of their own ancestors' cave paintings?"
"Yeah, why?... but you know what? Let's build a replica of their replica!"
"It must be some kind of fertility cult"
Well hopefully this time they can just go watch this Kurzgesagt + John Green video about it. Whilst also commenting on the fascinatingly low-res 1080p resolution that was necessitated by primitive human networks, compared to what's state of the art 20k years into the future 🙂
@MrFr0stycave "Huh, why did our ancestors build a replica of a replica of a replica? This is to weird we should create a replica of this."
they're gonna build a replica of our replica lol
Your voice, and the way it was animated made the video so much more emotional and beautiful. Keep up the good work
this made me realize that even that they lived so many years ago, they are just like us and now it makes me feel closer (??) in a way
"Why were there no paintings of humans or reindeer?"
*Ancient person begins drawing people and reindeer*
Other Ancient Humans: Bruh all we see every day is humans and reindeer draw me something that ISN'T boring
On a similar note:
"Dude check out this two headed Mega Sloth"
"But that isnt real"
"Yeah but its funny as shit"
@@MrZaroc Umm... Do you play Rimworld by any chance? Asking this question because you mentioned "Mega Sloth"
@@davidworotikan6730 They were real though
@@davidworotikan6730 Mega Sloths were real lmao
We still don't draw things that we don't find interesting
People draw beautiful vases, but no one would draw a normal, cheap, plastic, boring vase
Kurzgesagt is basically that entertaining teacher who makes learning an otherwise boring subject, fun.
facts xD
comment 34
Can't believe you are here
Hellooooo
creeper-chan
Tens of thousand of years before even our modern history began, a person, maybe a child like you and me just hold their hand against a wall, sprayed a bit of colour over it and was perhaps astonished by the thing he just did, just like we were as we first did it. He went on to doing his normal daily routine and living his normal life. That person had feelings just like us. He felt pain, fear, helplessness but also joy, happyness and love. He lauged, he cried, he hoped, he died, he failed, he tried he fullfilled many of his dreams but many weren't. They didn't even have our most primitive form of our modern technology and therefore had a much simpler but also a way more dangerous life. But still, the remnder of this ancient soal lasted long enough to whitness the construction of the pyramids, the rise and fall of countless empires and basically all of our history. This fact combined with this video made me cry.
Whoa... This video is deep. I actually got the feels watching it.
Imagine what archeologists in the future are going to think, finding 2 caves with the exact same artwork in both.
Well one of them is basically called version 2 so I think they're gonna be able to piece the puzzle
Assuming records don't survive that long, anyway. We've generally gotten even more meticulous about recording ourselves than even the Romans did, so I'd be surprised if knowledge of how we were in the now didn't survive till then.
”Well, seems like they never stopped being cavemen”
They will build the 3rd copy
J. Wicker I'm sure humans of the future would be able to use dating technology to find that one cave is 17000 years older than the other, which is probably a big enough puzzle piece to piece together the mystery.
“All history is current” I just can’t get over that statement.
i dont get it
@@jimmybean420 same me too
I think it means that current time is simultaneously becoming history and new current time is created at the same time and dominates and shapes reality as we know it
@@jimmybean420 The length of our planet's existence is but a single tick of the universal clock. Every event that has ever happened and every being that has every lived has done so in such an incredibly relatively short amount of time, it is all current.
@@pratiklomte I don't get everything displayed on this channel, but This, I understood. ^_^
"We hope you enjoyed this video, even if it was different." This is my favorite Kurzgesagt video. It is one of the videos I recommend to others most, even three years after it is made. I come back and watch it again, every time I need a bit of perspective. Or a calming moment. Something uplifting in a world divided by its self-inflicted wounds. Every now and then, I need a little hope. And this video neatly and innocently provides it.
Thank you! So beautiful presented and told.....I was moved to tears. Thank you!
Never would have guessed talking about palms could be so emotional
Go listen to his episode on googling people. No spoilers but bring tissues.
I know. I almost want to slap myself, this should not be making water leave my eyes.
Right! I was moved
@@Silencedlemon where do you listen to that?
@@arielafrizal wherever you listen to your podcasts! That are many apps for that.
Everyone wants something to say they existed.
It's because you're afraid of oblivion.
Oblivion is the ultimate truth.
Nothing will survive.
So why bother preserving memories after our death ?
Our purpose is to live in the moment
Arun Khosh is this a poem? It is beautiful
@@arunkhosh904 Something about "You can kill people, but they will only really be extinct if you destroy their culture, art..."
i dont
thats not a problem, we have produced more than enough plastic for that
"What we do in life echoes in eternity." - Maximus
Ironically, I return to this video frequently. There is a quality to this video, the tone, and the thoughts it provokes that cannot be replicated.
The cave paintings mean the same thing art has always meant: we lived, we were here
the handprint to me is almost the equivalent of a time where i used to write on anything; a bathroom stall, a friends journal, a textbook, a whiteboard “edith was here”. simple and short. just the idea of knowing it would be seen by others, i would feel satisfied.
Yes
Im goint to draw a random babling just to confused future archelogist
Gay
I’m gonna scribble “sixkil” all over a wall so they would be confused on what it is supposed to say but in reality it just means that a sandwich is burying a dorito body
Imagine in the far future when anthropologists find two separate caves with identical paintings from 17000 years apart. That will be a mystery.
Well this is the digital age now so there must be a file that people in the future can access depicting the difference.
wait... so technically we may have 3 "caves" now?
one real, one fake and one digital?
future paleontologists will be really confused i guess
Well they will quickly discover that the second cave is fake and made with artificial materials. And the first one is made of solid stone. So it will be pretty easy to tell
Brandon Persaud shhhh don’t ruin it
They will see that one is 15 years older than the other one.
This isn't just a video, this is a beautiful and great work of art.
I now hear Nightwish´s "The Greatest show on Earth" singing We Were Here in my head now. A single tear on my cheek.
I've been to Lascaux two years ago, there is something i have to add since Lascaux II is brought into the discussion.
Lascaux II is the first, incomplete copy of the original cave, built on the same hill. The great numbers of visitors, and the vibration caused by their vehicles, turned out to be a problem for the cave. Since 2016 Lascaux IV has opened, a little bit further away, it's a nearly complete recreation of the cave, up to the fraction of a millimeter. In the museum several parts of the cave, like the ceilings and the wells, have been cloned at an accessible height so that visitors can see things that wouldn't normally be visible even in the real cave. There are even VR visors that allow you to visit the 3d model of the cave, with all the paintings and graffitis.
It's not the original, but it's as close as it can get, and i believe we should be happy to see a copy if that means the original is being protected and preserved for the times to come.
Should you feel the need to visit an original cave go to the grottes du Peche-Merle, it's one of the few original caves open to the public, access are limited to 700 ppl per day as to preserve the micro-climate inside, so reservation is almost mandatory. There's a 1:1 painting of prehistoric horses inside.
tl;dr - i dont' share the sadness of not being able to access the original Lascaux cave for reasons; there are other original caves open to the public
Have you seen hand stencils? We've been there yesterday but we only saw the animal paintings. It's beautiful though
by this logic we should close all historic monuments, museums, etc... to preserve them for what exactly? Everything will turn into dust sooner or later. Denying people to experience history and replacing it by a cottage industry of fakes - what a good idea! Nothing to worry here, no unintended consequences could possibly happen. I think the logic should be the opposite: now that they built an exact copy of the cave they shouldn't fear of the real one slowly deteriorating - everything is already preserved.
In the video they say all it to the fact that: It is sad in the sense it will only be a shadow of what is and what was
yet also at I feel that it shows hope that we won’t go there but instead to a near perfect copy so that the real one won’t be destroyed, an act of creation instead of our(humanity’s) destruction. And before that beliefs in humanity’s future, 4 teens and a dog who found and protected a “random” cave with “pretty pictures”
I put it in quotes because obviously not true but a possible take on the cave they could have had.
@@djmbst That view prioritizes your tourist experience over scientific discovery. Preserving the cave allows future scientists who have better technology and will be massively more careful with the site than tourists to study it and learn more about the people who lived there. There's literally no benefit to allowing you to partially destroy an irreplaceable artifact so you can enjoy yourself slightly more than if you visited a replica which you can't even tell the difference from the original. Your comment is, honestly, selfish.
@@NortheastGamer good, someone said it!
This took something outta me man, we’re living through time, making history, dying, hoping we at least won’t be forgotten but when our generation dies and our children’s children’s ens generation what will be left besides pictures and videos, who’ll take interest in them in the future like we did this cave, and what will our descendants do with them?
Don't worry, you won't care by then
I always wonder as we move forward and generations pass we are being less human. Even now at the dinner table in family meetups or parties, all are on their respective phones, no one talks. I wonder how humans will be in the next few hundred years. Will they have the same etiquettes as we do?
In any and all probably, your actions will set off a chain of events that will cascade into the massive benefit and detriment of your descendants, but then again the same can be said for everything else in existence.
@@FireEmperor_A Maybe from what you've seen. I personally distance myself from my phone. I use it as a tool and not an extension of my personality. That being said, you won't catch me sitting on my phone during social situations. I find it both rude and annoying. And I usually try to find friends that think the same way.
On a more optimistic view (or not, depending on how you feel), we are probably one of the first generations whose lives are meticulously recorded through the internet and social media. Assuming the internet doesn't disappear, or someone had archived it before it does, our descendant could see in vivid detail what we were doing or thinking on any given date, on any point in our lives. I could only imagine the emotions I would feel if I was able to see or read what my parents did and felt when they first met each other, or when they first discovered that they were pregnant with me. Multiply that by a few more generations.
Unfortunately, our descendants would also see (and try to understand) all our stupid fucking memes.
I hadn’t watched this video is a few years, it made me cry just like the first time ❤