Finally someone showing how to control multiple pins. All of the examples I could find are single pin. I was able to use this to make a pio LCD driver. Next I want to make a 8080 parallel driver for a TFT display I have on hand.
@@LifewithDavid1 one thing that doesn't make sense to me is the auto-pull feature. Shouldn't the threshold be 8 in your program? With it set to 16 you are only ever doing manual pulls. Out is pulling 8 bits then we wrap around and pull a new word into the OSR. Unless I'm not understanding it correctly.
Who says old dogs can’t learn new tricks (and teach them exceptionally well too)! You’re a genius! Thanks for the help understanding, your teaching is concise but understandable.
I too had difficulty saying Instantiation to students during lectures in the UK... In the end I used "In-Stan-See-Ay-Shon" Great walk-through of PIO State Machines - Thank you.
Thanks for making this video, David! I just got a few Picos and I’m excited to continue your series and get to making some interesting projects! Edit: Forgot to add that I’ve seen dozens of PIO videos in the past few months and yours by far is the best! Clearest explanation and demonstration I’ve seen!
The grandpa I never knew I needed. Great video sir, I was trying to program PIO this helped me to understand what I was actually doing wrong. Thank you I will be waiting for next part.
I've coded (copied) and called a PIO blinking LED example from within a C++ program. I don't know C++ very well and find it tricky, but using PIO took me to whole new level of tricky. Good video, well explained and you've got my sub.
Thank you for your investigation about instantation. I believe that is very important to program microcontrolers with optimum and fast data transfer through GPIOs. This method accelerates the job by using independent machine states further than registers (like arduino). Thank you again.
For some reason this is the only place I've been able to find parallel out to pins example. Thanks, David. Very helpful. Question: Why do you need the autopull=True, pull_thresh=16 in the @asm_pio? Because you already have pull in the program.
...and I thought the documentation for pico is awesome, but this video brings it to the next lvl. Thanks David I should finally build some project around the pico, looks like it should be the goto option for timing sensitive applications. I am rather surprised that I did not find a single example where PIO would be used as a counter tho, I guess noone needs rotary encoders these days.
Working with Pico W means changes. One pin important for testing is onboard Led. Normally was Pin 25, but now for Pico W is connected to infineon chip at WL_GPIO0. In micropython can be addressed like Pin("LED") or Pin("GPIO0"), but... if you try to use that nomenclature in StateMachine() instatation... set_base=Pin("LED") o set_base=Pin("GPIO0")... boom! no way. And.. of course, no documentation from raspberry SDK's, even in Pico W specific datasheet. I believe that for a board good for experimentation, the change of onboard Led is going to cause some headakes. Thanks for your excellent videos!
@@LifewithDavid1 I managed to get two of them (Pico W), send me PM with your address and I'll send you one. I think it will be more productive for the community in your hands!
Great job. You make me this stuff understandable. Could you please make some example about pinsdir ? I'm interested in parallel bidirectional transmission where the direction of the data changes in real time.
I'm also interested in bidirectional parallel data transfer; so pinsdir absolutely will need to be addressed. It might be a while since I wasn't to show some other things first; like the speed increase on actual data with PIO and the delay features. Also, it's getting nicer outside so I have a VW to fix, and camping to do. But I will get to it! Thanks for the suggestion!
@@LifewithDavid1 One issue I'm addressing is how to synchronize pio pindirs with level shifter/buffer IC. Another issue is how to change pindirs to 8bit data pins leaving 16bit address pins as input. Please deal with the topic. 🙏
Hello David, thanks for the great explanation! Could you please also post the respective code sample. That would be great. The Github link does not work.
Wait wait... so the FIFO registers are buffered in a way where the data can't be corrupted by my code not accounting for timing/synchronization? The PIO program will just either use the old number or the new number depending on timing?
Yes, they are pretty flexible. For instance see this video (ua-cam.com/video/ZEBkM5FQ86Q/v-deo.html) at about 8:37 to see how PIO can use the latest data from the transmit FIFO; even if no data is available. This video also discusses interrupts across state machines and the main cores.
@@Marc_Wolfe Sounds like a cool project. I'd start by prototyping one system; like maybe real time engine crank position based on a single TDC sensor. That exercise will get your hands dirty with the pico and you can start to see the possibilities. You wouldn't even need an engine, you could use a drill and a hall sensor or IR sensor to start playing with it.
@@LifewithDavid1 If/when you do an Arduino Zero (SAMD21) series, I'd recommend ctrl+F "Event System" when looking through the datasheet. Maybe it can't do quite as complex of stuff, but when it can do the same, it sounds like it'd be much easier to implement.
You're right. But I was just demonstrating output. The 8 bits will just roll over. For instance, it could have been from 0 to 20,000,000 and the least significant 8 bits would just keep rolling over. However you are right, I can only output 255 using the LED display I mapped. Thanks for watching!
Hi David, I hold this in my memory, not dive into the PIO yet. There was mentioned somewhere that one of the PIO examples was BUS communication .... let me lookup ... hm... RP2040 datasheet, page 330 mentioned "8080 and 6800 parallel bus" however I did not found it in examples. The PIO is very hard to wrap mind around, and the documentation is hard to understand for me. The learning curve is very flat. Looks the key point is the "3.5.6. GPIO Mapping" on page 359
Hello, thank you for this video. I am very new to electronics, but for my project I need to get my hands on it, is it possible to have a tutorial for the raspberry Pico to play videos randomly after activating an ultra sound sensor if it Please ?
Thanks for watching! The Pico might not be the best device for this. With only 2 MByte of storage and no native video interface, it would be a real struggle. However, a Raspberry Pi Zero would be able to handle it much more easily. I have done a video using a motion detector using a Zero: ua-cam.com/video/ZPYcAuYemG4/v-deo.html Hopefully that will help. Good luck!
Good morning David from CT, USA. Great video series on Pi Pico. Would you be interested in doing a Pico-based hardware/software project in C on commercial basis? Kindly let me know. Best wishes. Ashok
Thank you! I'm honored; but I'm not that good. My videos detail my adventures in learning about the Pico. I can't hold a candle to most of the designers out there.
It would be nice if reorganize your playlists in chronological order and by topic. The one containing this video is partially sorted with a few non-PIO specific videos thrown in, making it difficult to follow along. I had to create my own playlist so I can reorder them. A big benefit of having organized playlists is that you'll rank higher on search results and subsequents video parts will show up on the viewer's queue, which increases your view count.
Thanks, I didn't know I could do that. When I started the play list I just had a couple Pico videos; and then, like rabbits, they multiplied! I'll have to look into that. Thanks for watching!
Great video! What I didnt understand is the part where microcontroller is communicating with this pio with .put() command. Where this i value is sent to?
The processor uses "put" to move data from the processor into the PIO TX (transmit) FIFO. PIO uses "pull" to move data from the TX FIFO into the OSR. PIO uses "push" to move data from the ISR into the RX (receive) FIFO. The processor uses "get" to grab data from the RX FIFO. Hope that helps!
This whole series is a truly exceptional education resource on using PIO & state machines with the Raspberry Pi Pico. Thank you for posting👏
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching.
Finally someone showing how to control multiple pins. All of the examples I could find are single pin. I was able to use this to make a pio LCD driver. Next I want to make a 8080 parallel driver for a TFT display I have on hand.
That sounds like a very doable project. Good luck! Hopefully my other videos will help.
@@LifewithDavid1 one thing that doesn't make sense to me is the auto-pull feature. Shouldn't the threshold be 8 in your program? With it set to 16 you are only ever doing manual pulls. Out is pulling 8 bits then we wrap around and pull a new word into the OSR. Unless I'm not understanding it correctly.
Who says old dogs can’t learn new tricks (and teach them exceptionally well too)! You’re a genius! Thanks for the help understanding, your teaching is concise but understandable.
Thank you for the kind words!
I too had difficulty saying Instantiation to students during lectures in the UK...
In the end I used "In-Stan-See-Ay-Shon"
Great walk-through of PIO State Machines - Thank you.
That's a great way to do it. I'll spell it phonetically on my script next time. Thanks!
Think of it as in-stanch-yay-shun. The 'i' between stanch and yay happens automatically.
Thanks for making this video, David! I just got a few Picos and I’m excited to continue your series and get to making some interesting projects!
Edit: Forgot to add that I’ve seen dozens of PIO videos in the past few months and yours by far is the best! Clearest explanation and demonstration I’ve seen!
Thank you so much for your kind words!
The grandpa I never knew I needed. Great video sir, I was trying to program PIO this helped me to understand what I was actually doing wrong. Thank you I will be waiting for next part.
You are very welcome
Love the Heathkit Instruments! I built many, The world needs another Heathkit like company!!!!
You're right! I built my first Heathkit, a good crystal radio, in 1961 when I was 7 years old.
I've coded (copied) and called a PIO blinking LED example from within a C++ program. I don't know C++ very well and find it tricky, but using PIO took me to whole new level of tricky.
Good video, well explained and you've got my sub.
Thank you so much. Glad it was helpful.
I had looked at the PIO documentation which I found tricky to understand. Your explanation makes sense to me
Thank you. I'm working on a side set video next.
Exactly ❤
Thank you for your investigation about instantation. I believe that is very important to program microcontrolers with optimum and fast data transfer through GPIOs. This method accelerates the job by using independent machine states further than registers (like arduino). Thank you again.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
For some reason this is the only place I've been able to find parallel out to pins example. Thanks, David. Very helpful. Question: Why do you need the autopull=True, pull_thresh=16 in the @asm_pio? Because you already have pull in the program.
You are very perceptive. You don't! I was learning and I hadn't figured that out yet. Thanks for the comment, and thanks for watching.
It's just what I was looking for, I really appreciate the time you give us with these explanations. Greetings.
Glad it was helpful! Hopefully you'll check out my other PIO videos.
This is just what I wanted Thanks David. My best regards Chris
Thanks for watching! Glad it helped. Check out my other Pico videos.
the little raspi pico super hero reminds me of Captain Zilog for the z80 stuff lmao. i love it
Thanks for watching. I'm enjoying bringing him to "life".
this is what I was looking for, awesome.
That's great. Check out my other PIO videos for more info.
Thanks David. I like and appreciate your videos very much. Please keep it up!
You're welcome. The viewers are why I keep making videos.
...and I thought the documentation for pico is awesome, but this video brings it to the next lvl. Thanks David
I should finally build some project around the pico, looks like it should be the goto option for timing sensitive applications.
I am rather surprised that I did not find a single example where PIO would be used as a counter tho, I guess noone needs rotary encoders these days.
Glad it was helpful!
Great Video. Well Done !!
Thank you very much; and thank you for nudging me in my "throughput" video to dig into the RP2040 more deeply. I appreciate everyone's comments!
Excellent analysis, sir!
Thanks for watching
Love the End Fligt. Flite, flaeyt, lordy 😁👍🏻👍🏻Instantaneous Flight 😎
Thanks. Just a clip of a flight over Sandusky, Ohio, USA.
Working with Pico W means changes. One pin important for testing is onboard Led. Normally was Pin 25, but now for Pico W is connected to infineon chip at WL_GPIO0. In micropython can be addressed like Pin("LED") or Pin("GPIO0"), but... if you try to use that nomenclature in StateMachine() instatation... set_base=Pin("LED") o set_base=Pin("GPIO0")... boom! no way. And.. of course, no documentation from raspberry SDK's, even in Pico W specific datasheet. I believe that for a board good for experimentation, the change of onboard Led is going to cause some headakes. Thanks for your excellent videos!
Thank you for the tips. When I finally get a "W", I'll keep that in mind. I'll try to document my journeys.
@@LifewithDavid1 I managed to get two of them (Pico W), send me PM with your address and I'll send you one. I think it will be more productive for the community in your hands!
You're a great teacher!
Thank you very much! 😃
This is the kind of Pico project I'm interested in! Instant sub.
Thank you!
Great video! Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Excellent series! thanks!!
Glad you like them!
Great job. You make me this stuff understandable. Could you please make some example about pinsdir ? I'm interested in parallel bidirectional transmission where the direction of the data changes in real time.
I'm also interested in bidirectional parallel data transfer; so pinsdir absolutely will need to be addressed. It might be a while since I wasn't to show some other things first; like the speed increase on actual data with PIO and the delay features. Also, it's getting nicer outside so I have a VW to fix, and camping to do. But I will get to it! Thanks for the suggestion!
@@LifewithDavid1 One issue I'm addressing is how to synchronize pio pindirs with level shifter/buffer IC.
Another issue is how to change pindirs to 8bit data pins leaving 16bit address pins as input. Please deal with the topic. 🙏
Thank you a lot.
You are welcome!
Oh yeah, like the ceramic chip illustrations. Bet they are your chips too? :)
Thanks, Yes they are, a 6502 and 6530 from 1975/76. Thanks for watching!
Hello David,
thanks for the great explanation!
Could you please also post the respective code sample.
That would be great.
The Github link does not work.
Thanks for the comment. I've added the file link into Github and tested it; it seems to work from several people's accounts.
Can you program PIO to do direct memory access? Direct access to the main memory of the main processors that is? High quality stuff, nice work David.
Of course you can!!! Silly me! you have a video on it... Palm going to forehead...
Thank you for watching! I actually have two videos on DMA, the second goes into more gory detail (Ep 8 & Ep 9).
hey this is great stuff! subbed!
Thanks for the sub!
Wait wait... so the FIFO registers are buffered in a way where the data can't be corrupted by my code not accounting for timing/synchronization? The PIO program will just either use the old number or the new number depending on timing?
Yes, they are pretty flexible. For instance see this video (ua-cam.com/video/ZEBkM5FQ86Q/v-deo.html) at about 8:37 to see how PIO can use the latest data from the transmit FIFO; even if no data is available. This video also discusses interrupts across state machines and the main cores.
@@LifewithDavid1 Should have thought to re-watch that one now that my ideas are slightly more than half baked.
@@Marc_Wolfe Sounds like a cool project. I'd start by prototyping one system; like maybe real time engine crank position based on a single TDC sensor. That exercise will get your hands dirty with the pico and you can start to see the possibilities. You wouldn't even need an engine, you could use a drill and a hall sensor or IR sensor to start playing with it.
@@LifewithDavid1 As far as actually doing something, just going to try fuel only with an Arduino Mega on a generator engine... for now.
@@LifewithDavid1 If/when you do an Arduino Zero (SAMD21) series, I'd recommend ctrl+F "Event System" when looking through the datasheet. Maybe it can't do quite as complex of stuff, but when it can do the same, it sounds like it'd be much easier to implement.
Thank you for this Video and the 'instantation'! weakbit
You're welcome! I'm now able to say "instantiation" much more easily.
Thanks, like for great manual. But how can you fit 500 into 8 bits?
I mean "for from 0 to 500", but you mapped only 8 PINs, so maximum value is 255.
You're right. But I was just demonstrating output. The 8 bits will just roll over. For instance, it could have been from 0 to 20,000,000 and the least significant 8 bits would just keep rolling over. However you are right, I can only output 255 using the LED display I mapped. Thanks for watching!
@@LifewithDavid1 thank you, your content is great.
This moment just confused me, thx for clarify.
Hi David,
I hold this in my memory, not dive into the PIO yet.
There was mentioned somewhere that one of the PIO examples was BUS communication
.... let me lookup ... hm...
RP2040 datasheet, page 330 mentioned "8080 and 6800 parallel bus"
however I did not found it in examples.
The PIO is very hard to wrap mind around, and the documentation is hard to understand for me. The learning curve is very flat.
Looks the key point is the "3.5.6. GPIO Mapping" on page 359
I didn't dive in until just recently. It took a little head scratching; but then it started to make sense.
Hello, thank you for this video. I am very new to electronics, but for my project I need to get my hands on it, is it possible to have a tutorial for the raspberry Pico to play videos randomly after activating an ultra sound sensor if it Please ?
Thanks for watching! The Pico might not be the best device for this. With only 2 MByte of storage and no native video interface, it would be a real struggle. However, a Raspberry Pi Zero would be able to handle it much more easily. I have done a video using a motion detector using a Zero: ua-cam.com/video/ZPYcAuYemG4/v-deo.html Hopefully that will help. Good luck!
@@LifewithDavid1 Ah okay thank you very much
Good morning David from CT, USA.
Great video series on Pi Pico.
Would you be interested in doing a Pico-based hardware/software project in C on commercial basis? Kindly let me know.
Best wishes.
Ashok
Thank you! I'm honored; but I'm not that good. My videos detail my adventures in learning about the Pico. I can't hold a candle to most of the designers out there.
It would be nice if reorganize your playlists in chronological order and by topic. The one containing this video is partially sorted with a few non-PIO specific videos thrown in, making it difficult to follow along. I had to create my own playlist so I can reorder them. A big benefit of having organized playlists is that you'll rank higher on search results and subsequents video parts will show up on the viewer's queue, which increases your view count.
Thanks, I didn't know I could do that. When I started the play list I just had a couple Pico videos; and then, like rabbits, they multiplied! I'll have to look into that. Thanks for watching!
Thank you
You're welcome. Thanks for watching! Hopefully the next few videos in the series will be helpful.
Very well done, easy to understand!
Thank you very much. Thanks for watching!
Nice intro
Thank you!
Why didn't you use that scope behind you?
It's only a two channel scope. I do use the scope in later PIO episodes. Thanks for watching!
Great video! What I didnt understand is the part where microcontroller is communicating with this pio with .put() command. Where this i value is sent to?
The processor uses "put" to move data from the processor into the PIO TX (transmit) FIFO. PIO uses "pull" to move data from the TX FIFO into the OSR. PIO uses "push" to move data from the ISR into the RX (receive) FIFO. The processor uses "get" to grab data from the RX FIFO. Hope that helps!
I believe the RP2040 will cause all other Processor companies to introduce PIOs, PIOs are just Too Useful not to!
I see that Arduino is embracing the RP 2040.