Says in the disclaimer that IDs are ranked based predominantly on their fighting power or for their on-field team support power, then complains when people point out that he put dogshÏt IDs into decent tiers purely because of their bench passives, while at the same time putting IDs of equal power level clashing and passive-wise into F (and that's just one of the examples). This has nothing to do with people not listening to your disclaimer, you just didn't follow the rules you've setup yourself and your TL is just all over the place. And if you ask of people to ignore the inconsistencies and just focus on the general idea and vibe, then prydwen TL already exists and has existed for quite some time. If you offer it the same kind of good will that you demand for your own TL, then it's better at least for the sole fact that, unlike your video that's going to get absolete with time, it is going to get updated frequently. If you want to make something decent, especially for something as monumental as accurately evaluating 86 entities in some kind of meaningful order - specialize, set up a concrete goal and restricting ground rules that you will follow, that are clear to you and everyone else, maybe even limit the pool of IDs that you are trying to rank. Or if you are adamant about having a generalist TL out there - swallow your Navy Blue sin resource and name your TL a "TL of my purely subjective preference". That way you can easily put MS Don and Shishmael into F ignoring their potential power - because you never ever would personally want to engage with their specific mechanics, simple as that.
No way this guy said he doesn't care what randos thought about his opinions in his own disclaimer then drops this copium overdosed distortion episode kekw Either show us some credibility to back your claims of knowing exactly whats good or not, or get clowned on, lol.
I mean it is very based on the player's perspective on what and how will they choose units and IDs there's tons of different unit and ID combinations out there so he's right
holy shit that is not the reaction I expected Like, I do understand the tierlist IS your opinion and all, and I personally didn't see too much I felt the need to make a case for in that tierlist (besides Cinq Outis just being a passive slave and NSault, NDon, and NCliff being fucking F tier), but for someone who claims not care about others opinions, this is NOT how you make a reaction, regardless of if it's a joke or not, saying that people only skipped to the end, or saying that people said that Cinq Don rolls better than Cinqclair when NO ONE SAID THAT, they were talking about how you said Molar Ishmael had "above average rolls" while Cinq Don had "lackluster" rolls despite having comparable rolls (Molar Ish has 10, 17, 24 in optimal conditions, Cinq Don has 14, 15, 24, in optimal conditions, while in suboptimal conditions, they have THE EXACT SAME POWER, being 10, 15, and 18). This feels like an overreaction of the highest tier in my opinion, and regardless of it being a joke or not, no one's laughing, and it just makes you seem like a complete asshole, calling people "skinwalkers" for a different opinion.
"Oh you disagree with my opinion? SKINWALKER!!!! YOU ARE A SKINWALKER!!!! GO AWAY SKINWALKER!!!! YOU CLEARLY SKIPPED THE DISCLAIMER YOU SKINWA-" shut up. Everyone is clowning on your opinion cause its bad. SS Tier is fine. I'm pretty sure most people would agree with that. The problems start arising in S tier. Spicebush Yi sang, While his s1 roll is really damn bad (9), his s2 and s3 roll 16 and 18 respectively. On top of this, the S2 can become AOE and with conditionals, rolls 19 instead. On top of this, his Passive and Sin affinities make him synergize EXTREMELY well with one of the single best damaging egos in the game, his Sunshower Ego. The only affinity of sunshower he doesn't fuel is gloom. Oh hey what's this? Molar Ishmael and Dieci Rodya, the other 2 good sinking ids, BOTH have gloom as well as other affinities to help fuel sunshower?! What do you mean he also gives a 30% damage boost to sunshower?! Rosepanner Rodya.... No. While her S2 is pretty good, the MOMENT you get past that stagger threshold she is not gonna contribute anything to the team. Regret Faust and Molar Outis at least have skill/passive effects to help with damage once the stagger threshold is gone. Unless they change how tremor works fundamentally, i do not see this changing. A Tier: Kurokumo Hong Lu.. While he is good for newer players, the MOMENT you enter a combat where an enemy rolls even SLIGHTLY higher and he is forced to clash his ass is getting beat. 11, 13, 13 is pretty damn bad. Lantern Don has the same issue with 12, 13, 13 but at least her passive and conditionals help immensely. Kurokumo Ryoshu i WOULD say is fine, if she wasn't above Chef Ryoshu. While their rolls are incredibly Similar, Chef Ryoshu is far better in MOST cases. KK Support passive is good but it literally the same as KK Hong Lu's, whos also easier to get. Chef Ryoshu on the other hand actually deals damage, and has an INSANE passives. Seven Outis: While her clashing ability isn't as good as it used to be, due to enemies getting higher and higher numbers. She still has an effective roll of 12, 17, 14, With her s3 becoming an effective 20 with conditionals. she is also INCREDIBLY fast with a LOWEST speed of 5, while also having a really good support passive. I cant really comment on cinq don, as I haven't used her too much, but just looking at her kit, her numbers seem decent without conditionals, and REALLY good with them, as well as having some good damage boosts. Cinq Outis however i can comment on. A Tank ID with an ABSURDLY good evade of 18. While her s1 isnt the best, only rolling a 10, her other skills rolling a 14 and 22, while that 14 becomes an 18 with the STUPIDLY easy conditional of be faster, and the 22 becoming a 26 with enough poise. On top of this, her S3 gives the 2 slowest allies 2 haste, which is INCREDIBLY helpful for those ids with a lower max speed, especially for proccing something like cinq dons passive. As well as her passive giving her haste AND lowering her stagger threshold when she does make use of her absurd evade. B Tier: BL Yi Sang. Sure his rolls are abysmal, 13,11,14. But this goes out the window the MILISECOND you see his passive. +3 coin power for every skill if you stack poise. Turning his rather sad rolls into an INCREDIBLE 16, 17, 23. His Support passive is also INCREDIBLY useful for those ids which might have trouble stacking their poise normally. Zwei Sinclair. Why the hell would you use him for his passive. Its a 10% damage reduction to the ally with the LOWEST hp. If you are using it it means you are expecting to take damage on your most fragile ID, when you should be doing anything to prevent them from taking damage in the first place, like redirecting with a fast id or using a good tank id. Base Meursault's Support passive is the actually good version of Zwei Sinclair's, as his instead affects the ally with the MOST HP, typically a tank, who of course you'd expect to take some damage, or for them to take some damage to make sure a unit with less survivability doesn't eat that attack instead. Zwei Faust. Her passives literally only good for zwei gregor lmao. Seven Yi Sang. You admitted to not knowing how his s3 worked, and I did see someone explain it on the tierlist video so I wont go into it. His coin power is iffy though so i'll give you that. Base Gregor. Why is he here? I mean yea if you got literally nothing else I mean sure go ahead. But if you have any id with an even slightly better heal, he becomes useless. G Gregor. If he is here, why is base gregor here. His passive is base gregor's but SIGNIFICANTLY better, as its 5 hp per clash instead of 5 hp per turn. Hell id even take chef gregor over base gregor if I had chef ryoshu on the team. C Tier: Molar Sinclair. NAH. A 6 ROLLING S1. EVEN WITH CONDITONALS IT ONLY ROLLS 10. YOU ARE NOT COOKING. Sure his s2 has a decent roll of 16 and his s3 also rolls 16 without conditionals, if you accidentally use his s3 before he has 10 tremor count, he's gonna stagger himself. His only redeeming quality is his support passive and even that sucks cause its a tremor passive. Middle Ids. Oh boy. Lets start with Middle Don. 10,16,16 rolls might sound meh, but she gets double offense level REALLY easily, making those numbers deceiving, as well as even more coin power against enemies with her passive mark. You don't even need a full envy team for the base envy power up. She also has an INCREDIBLE synergy with her base ego, granting her 3 hp every time she hits an enemy with bleed... On a bleed ID. Now Middle Meursault. He is an INCREDIBLY useful id for any team with an envy nuke. Oh what's that? Many of the IDs you put in SS have Envy Nukes? WHAT?!?!!? He can inflict Envy Power Up, Envy Damage Up, and Envy Fragility all by himself. The fact that you didn't consider how much he can buff up ids like W Don, W Ryoshu, or Rabbit Heathcliff is INSANE. D Tier: Shi Ishmael. You clearly aren't cooking. She has a high HP pool to help with her hp requirements, and when you meet those requirements you get one of the BEST s2s in the game. A coin reuse that works IN CLASHES is great. It makes her s2 roll a 21, just don't be stupid and she wont die, she even has a source of slight healing on her s3 to assist in this. Mariachi Sinclair. If you put Zwei sinclair in B ENTIRELY for his support passive, why the hell is mariachi sinclair down in D. A free 10% damage boost to the id with the most sanity against enemies with low sanity. Its one of the EASIEST to activate damage boosts and works for EVERY id except N Clair or Sunshower Heathcliff. F Tier: HIGHLY disagree on N Corp placement. REALLY synergistic team that deserves higher than F tier. Sunshower Heathcliff. As much as I hate this stupid ID and the people that say he is one of the best id in the game, he is FAR from the worst. I don't know how to use him, nor do I care to attempt to learn how, I just don't like him. But for those who do learn how to use him, I know they thoroughly enjoy him. This is because of how well he can perform when you do put in that effort.
Like yeah, he is upset that we mock him for opinion when tier list is just bad. These kind of tier lists aren't something subjective for the most parts, so the opinion here isn't an argument
Nah, all of your points can be argued to some extent. Yi sang in S tier is fine, and kurokomo hong lu is actually busted in RR. The only placement that I don't agree with is shi ishmael and N corp, but it's not a bad tier list. Some take are bad, but because of the nature of the video imo
@@faber3813 Elaborate on how KK Lu is busted in RR. I get that he can put out good damage and paralyze but due to his god awful numbers hes gonna struggle to win clashes sometimes. If i wanted a high damage hong lu ID in the team id bring Tingtang, as he has good damage, good clash values, and a good spassive. I mean i guess if you have literally no 3* ids for hong lu hes a good pick. Also how is Spicebush Yi sang in S tier Fine lol. He has incredibly synergy with one of the best offensive egos in the game, and is the ONLY reason sinking is an actually decent status effect. Edit: Wait no, even if you DONT have 3* hong lu ids, why would you choose him over W hong lu, unless you are "oh i hate charge its meta >:(((((((" having him even just to support the charge ids is so much better than having a mid id that cant clash.
It's becoming a community meme to crap on tier lists now so it doesn't really matter how good or bad they are. There's too much nuance to assessing the individual IDs so it's impossible to really evaluate them. Except Rabbit Heathcliff and Nclair being SS due to their no-setup turn 1 bullshit.
The issue wasn't with the higher tiers really, it mainly came from the underselling of units in lower tiers (like MidDon or Cinq Don). Hell, as I mentioned in my comment, I didn't see much to argue against BESIDES Cinq Outis only being support fodder (despite being in A???) and N Corp being F tier. Also, this is moreso about THIS video rather than the original tierlist, but he claims people were saying "Cinq Don rolls better than Cinqclair", when that wasn't EVER the case, They were talking about him saying that Molar Ishmael had above average rolls when Cinq Don had underwhelming rolls despite their rolls being comparable in optimal conditions and THE EXACT SAME IN SUBOPTIMAL CONDITIONS.
I only found the list disagreeable when I watched it thinking about "nah this one is potentially good if you have..." then I snapped back. I looked back at them and thought about how much support a unit needs to be good rather than offering good support, then I was like "yeah middle don sucks in any team not having envy support and does not provide more than decent clashing.". The tier list itself was the most interesting out of all the limbus ones I've seen since others are like "charge is great lol all w-corp is a/s-tier lmao just use only them". Actually gave a "they will work well regardless of (super specific) team" approach.
![Base Ishmael Solo 5-30 [Limbus Company]](/img/n.gif)
Bro distrorting
Bro's sanity dropped to -45
Carmen making it outta the light with this one 🔥
Carmen overcooked this one its burnt
Ayin has forsake this giy
Nicest indonesian player ❤
Yap Expansion
Coffin of the Iron Rambling
Thoughout heaven and earth, you alone are the yapper one.
Secret Library of ruina realization fight
carmen leave this bro alone
This is truly one of the response videos of all time
so much yapping needed to put this in 2x speed 🔥🔥🔥
bros gonna trigger a realization
Peter Who Denies All
Distortion
an limbillion amount of yapping
Rare Carmen W
Bro teaking 💀💀💀
the sudden indonesian has now made me find the 3rd PM Indo fan ive spotted in my life, really small world in The City (Depok Society)
i think carmen is gonna fucking distort him
Yap king 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Says in the disclaimer that IDs are ranked based predominantly on their fighting power or for their on-field team support power, then complains when people point out that he put dogshÏt IDs into decent tiers purely because of their bench passives, while at the same time putting IDs of equal power level clashing and passive-wise into F (and that's just one of the examples). This has nothing to do with people not listening to your disclaimer, you just didn't follow the rules you've setup yourself and your TL is just all over the place.
And if you ask of people to ignore the inconsistencies and just focus on the general idea and vibe, then prydwen TL already exists and has existed for quite some time. If you offer it the same kind of good will that you demand for your own TL, then it's better at least for the sole fact that, unlike your video that's going to get absolete with time, it is going to get updated frequently.
If you want to make something decent, especially for something as monumental as accurately evaluating 86 entities in some kind of meaningful order - specialize, set up a concrete goal and restricting ground rules that you will follow, that are clear to you and everyone else, maybe even limit the pool of IDs that you are trying to rank.
Or if you are adamant about having a generalist TL out there - swallow your Navy Blue sin resource and name your TL a "TL of my purely subjective preference". That way you can easily put MS Don and Shishmael into F ignoring their potential power - because you never ever would personally want to engage with their specific mechanics, simple as that.
No way this guy said he doesn't care what randos thought about his opinions in his own disclaimer then drops this copium overdosed distortion episode kekw
Either show us some credibility to back your claims of knowing exactly whats good or not, or get clowned on, lol.
JESUS CHRIST WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU LOL
Bro got roast one and already strt yapping
I mean it is very based on the player's perspective on what and how will they choose units and IDs there's tons of different unit and ID combinations out there so he's right
holy shit that is not the reaction I expected
Like, I do understand the tierlist IS your opinion and all, and I personally didn't see too much I felt the need to make a case for in that tierlist (besides Cinq Outis just being a passive slave and NSault, NDon, and NCliff being fucking F tier), but for someone who claims not care about others opinions, this is NOT how you make a reaction, regardless of if it's a joke or not, saying that people only skipped to the end, or saying that people said that Cinq Don rolls better than Cinqclair when NO ONE SAID THAT, they were talking about how you said Molar Ishmael had "above average rolls" while Cinq Don had "lackluster" rolls despite having comparable rolls (Molar Ish has 10, 17, 24 in optimal conditions, Cinq Don has 14, 15, 24, in optimal conditions, while in suboptimal conditions, they have THE EXACT SAME POWER, being 10, 15, and 18). This feels like an overreaction of the highest tier in my opinion, and regardless of it being a joke or not, no one's laughing, and it just makes you seem like a complete asshole, calling people "skinwalkers" for a different opinion.
Womp womp, bad list. Now cope, seethe and yap
Lil bro don't worry I'm sorry for calling your viewers skinwalkers, I watched the entire video, I swear 😭
Bro is off poop 💀💀💀
bro is losing it
Dude actually just manifested EGO to trash talk. Extremely based
nah, it's a distortion. He was denied his ambitions, not full follow through with his will. It was def Carmen who got him first.
@@lpmatthews7387 Wdym?He refused to change his opinion no matter what, sticking to his ideal
That'd mean manifesting an E.G.O,right?
@@youtubewanderer4763 yeah, that'd be ego, mb
Do you need help my guy
I never knew malay/indo limbus company community exist, guess I'm in :D
Who is "skinwalker"?
How did he go from a limbus company tierlist to FORTNITE CONTROLLERS AND PC PLAYERS HELP 😭
man somehow made a tier list worse than prywden and got mad when argued against
Nah I'd distort
why is everyone in the comments so wrong????? lol??????
Wdym?
skinwalkers
step 1: make horrible tier list
step 2: make a "response" video
step 3: ???
Step 4: distort
Based
"Oh you disagree with my opinion? SKINWALKER!!!! YOU ARE A SKINWALKER!!!! GO AWAY SKINWALKER!!!! YOU CLEARLY SKIPPED THE DISCLAIMER YOU SKINWA-" shut up. Everyone is clowning on your opinion cause its bad.
SS Tier is fine. I'm pretty sure most people would agree with that.
The problems start arising in S tier.
Spicebush Yi sang, While his s1 roll is really damn bad (9), his s2 and s3 roll 16 and 18 respectively. On top of this, the S2 can become AOE and with conditionals, rolls 19 instead. On top of this, his Passive and Sin affinities make him synergize EXTREMELY well with one of the single best damaging egos in the game, his Sunshower Ego. The only affinity of sunshower he doesn't fuel is gloom. Oh hey what's this? Molar Ishmael and Dieci Rodya, the other 2 good sinking ids, BOTH have gloom as well as other affinities to help fuel sunshower?! What do you mean he also gives a 30% damage boost to sunshower?!
Rosepanner Rodya.... No. While her S2 is pretty good, the MOMENT you get past that stagger threshold she is not gonna contribute anything to the team. Regret Faust and Molar Outis at least have skill/passive effects to help with damage once the stagger threshold is gone. Unless they change how tremor works fundamentally, i do not see this changing.
A Tier: Kurokumo Hong Lu.. While he is good for newer players, the MOMENT you enter a combat where an enemy rolls even SLIGHTLY higher and he is forced to clash his ass is getting beat. 11, 13, 13 is pretty damn bad. Lantern Don has the same issue with 12, 13, 13 but at least her passive and conditionals help immensely.
Kurokumo Ryoshu i WOULD say is fine, if she wasn't above Chef Ryoshu. While their rolls are incredibly Similar, Chef Ryoshu is far better in MOST cases. KK Support passive is good but it literally the same as KK Hong Lu's, whos also easier to get. Chef Ryoshu on the other hand actually deals damage, and has an INSANE passives.
Seven Outis: While her clashing ability isn't as good as it used to be, due to enemies getting higher and higher numbers. She still has an effective roll of 12, 17, 14, With her s3 becoming an effective 20 with conditionals. she is also INCREDIBLY fast with a LOWEST speed of 5, while also having a really good support passive.
I cant really comment on cinq don, as I haven't used her too much, but just looking at her kit, her numbers seem decent without conditionals, and REALLY good with them, as well as having some good damage boosts.
Cinq Outis however i can comment on. A Tank ID with an ABSURDLY good evade of 18. While her s1 isnt the best, only rolling a 10, her other skills rolling a 14 and 22, while that 14 becomes an 18 with the STUPIDLY easy conditional of be faster, and the 22 becoming a 26 with enough poise. On top of this, her S3 gives the 2 slowest allies 2 haste, which is INCREDIBLY helpful for those ids with a lower max speed, especially for proccing something like cinq dons passive. As well as her passive giving her haste AND lowering her stagger threshold when she does make use of her absurd evade.
B Tier: BL Yi Sang. Sure his rolls are abysmal, 13,11,14. But this goes out the window the MILISECOND you see his passive. +3 coin power for every skill if you stack poise. Turning his rather sad rolls into an INCREDIBLE 16, 17, 23. His Support passive is also INCREDIBLY useful for those ids which might have trouble stacking their poise normally.
Zwei Sinclair. Why the hell would you use him for his passive. Its a 10% damage reduction to the ally with the LOWEST hp. If you are using it it means you are expecting to take damage on your most fragile ID, when you should be doing anything to prevent them from taking damage in the first place, like redirecting with a fast id or using a good tank id. Base Meursault's Support passive is the actually good version of Zwei Sinclair's, as his instead affects the ally with the MOST HP, typically a tank, who of course you'd expect to take some damage, or for them to take some damage to make sure a unit with less survivability doesn't eat that attack instead.
Zwei Faust. Her passives literally only good for zwei gregor lmao.
Seven Yi Sang. You admitted to not knowing how his s3 worked, and I did see someone explain it on the tierlist video so I wont go into it. His coin power is iffy though so i'll give you that.
Base Gregor. Why is he here? I mean yea if you got literally nothing else I mean sure go ahead. But if you have any id with an even slightly better heal, he becomes useless.
G Gregor. If he is here, why is base gregor here. His passive is base gregor's but SIGNIFICANTLY better, as its 5 hp per clash instead of 5 hp per turn. Hell id even take chef gregor over base gregor if I had chef ryoshu on the team.
C Tier: Molar Sinclair. NAH. A 6 ROLLING S1. EVEN WITH CONDITONALS IT ONLY ROLLS 10. YOU ARE NOT COOKING. Sure his s2 has a decent roll of 16 and his s3 also rolls 16 without conditionals, if you accidentally use his s3 before he has 10 tremor count, he's gonna stagger himself. His only redeeming quality is his support passive and even that sucks cause its a tremor passive.
Middle Ids. Oh boy. Lets start with Middle Don. 10,16,16 rolls might sound meh, but she gets double offense level REALLY easily, making those numbers deceiving, as well as even more coin power against enemies with her passive mark. You don't even need a full envy team for the base envy power up. She also has an INCREDIBLE synergy with her base ego, granting her 3 hp every time she hits an enemy with bleed... On a bleed ID.
Now Middle Meursault. He is an INCREDIBLY useful id for any team with an envy nuke. Oh what's that? Many of the IDs you put in SS have Envy Nukes? WHAT?!?!!? He can inflict Envy Power Up, Envy Damage Up, and Envy Fragility all by himself. The fact that you didn't consider how much he can buff up ids like W Don, W Ryoshu, or Rabbit Heathcliff is INSANE.
D Tier: Shi Ishmael. You clearly aren't cooking. She has a high HP pool to help with her hp requirements, and when you meet those requirements you get one of the BEST s2s in the game. A coin reuse that works IN CLASHES is great. It makes her s2 roll a 21, just don't be stupid and she wont die, she even has a source of slight healing on her s3 to assist in this.
Mariachi Sinclair. If you put Zwei sinclair in B ENTIRELY for his support passive, why the hell is mariachi sinclair down in D. A free 10% damage boost to the id with the most sanity against enemies with low sanity. Its one of the EASIEST to activate damage boosts and works for EVERY id except N Clair or Sunshower Heathcliff.
F Tier: HIGHLY disagree on N Corp placement. REALLY synergistic team that deserves higher than F tier.
Sunshower Heathcliff. As much as I hate this stupid ID and the people that say he is one of the best id in the game, he is FAR from the worst. I don't know how to use him, nor do I care to attempt to learn how, I just don't like him. But for those who do learn how to use him, I know they thoroughly enjoy him. This is because of how well he can perform when you do put in that effort.
and for the IDs I didn't comment on, I either had nothing against its placement or haven't used the Id enough to properly form an opinion on them.
Like yeah, he is upset that we mock him for opinion when tier list is just bad. These kind of tier lists aren't something subjective for the most parts, so the opinion here isn't an argument
Guy who pointed out the Seven Yi Sang passive and also made a comment defending the N Corp IDs and Cinq Outis here, keep spittin them fax
Nah, all of your points can be argued to some extent.
Yi sang in S tier is fine, and kurokomo hong lu is actually busted in RR.
The only placement that I don't agree with is shi ishmael and N corp, but it's not a bad tier list. Some take are bad, but because of the nature of the video imo
@@faber3813 Elaborate on how KK Lu is busted in RR. I get that he can put out good damage and paralyze but due to his god awful numbers hes gonna struggle to win clashes sometimes. If i wanted a high damage hong lu ID in the team id bring Tingtang, as he has good damage, good clash values, and a good spassive.
I mean i guess if you have literally no 3* ids for hong lu hes a good pick.
Also how is Spicebush Yi sang in S tier Fine lol. He has incredibly synergy with one of the best offensive egos in the game, and is the ONLY reason sinking is an actually decent status effect.
Edit: Wait no, even if you DONT have 3* hong lu ids, why would you choose him over W hong lu, unless you are "oh i hate charge its meta >:(((((((" having him even just to support the charge ids is so much better than having a mid id that cant clash.
It's becoming a community meme to crap on tier lists now so it doesn't really matter how good or bad they are. There's too much nuance to assessing the individual IDs so it's impossible to really evaluate them. Except Rabbit Heathcliff and Nclair being SS due to their no-setup turn 1 bullshit.
My man literally said charge = good and people killed him, why tho
The issue wasn't with the higher tiers really, it mainly came from the underselling of units in lower tiers (like MidDon or Cinq Don). Hell, as I mentioned in my comment, I didn't see much to argue against BESIDES Cinq Outis only being support fodder (despite being in A???) and N Corp being F tier.
Also, this is moreso about THIS video rather than the original tierlist, but he claims people were saying "Cinq Don rolls better than Cinqclair", when that wasn't EVER the case, They were talking about him saying that Molar Ishmael had above average rolls when Cinq Don had underwhelming rolls despite their rolls being comparable in optimal conditions and THE EXACT SAME IN SUBOPTIMAL CONDITIONS.
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I only found the list disagreeable when I watched it thinking about "nah this one is potentially good if you have..." then I snapped back. I looked back at them and thought about how much support a unit needs to be good rather than offering good support, then I was like "yeah middle don sucks in any team not having envy support and does not provide more than decent clashing.". The tier list itself was the most interesting out of all the limbus ones I've seen since others are like "charge is great lol all w-corp is a/s-tier lmao just use only them". Actually gave a "they will work well regardless of (super specific) team" approach.
Skill issue
Middle Don is whatever. But putting mid harpooner heathcliff in SS is horrific. Recency bias. Dude is another lame tank.