@@Nismo_350Z_TTVIf you’re near the front and show respect, you usually get it back. I’ve had very few issues with dirty drivers outside of the first few weeks.
Alex, what you discovered was a vehicle with a very stable slip angle. its the angle at which the tires are close to the limit of losing grip. a car with good weight distribution and special attention paid to the tires and how the cars weight moves around will produce an easy to drive car that slightly slides around the corner which is the fastest way around said corner. there is quite a bit of positive camber on the front too?
That positive camber is true to the original car, the original car had even narrower tyres and they were more rounded in the tread pattern, almost like a motorcycle tyre, so the wear was not a huge issue. I can't remember the exact reason for the positive camber that was very common on race cars at the time, but part of me thinks it was to do with vehicle balance on turn in to a corner.
The positive camber would give the inner tire in a turn a bigger contact patch, and the overall reduced contact size just before turn in would lessen the capability of snap oversteer, not quite more stable, but more predictable and easier to correct than it would be.
_"Tonight, we go all vintage for a car that even James May would like. This is FailRace, where expect to see:_ 2:54 _"A Bugatti battles into a rainy corner._ 9:32 _"A Porsche defends into a wet corner._ 15:11 _"And a Toyota takes out Impega. Guess where it happened?"_
Also, thing is, cars like these with narrow tires, while they don't have much grip in the dry, work really well in the wet. The historic racers who still race them explained that since the tires don't have much grip in the dry to begin with, you won't lose too much grip in the wet, and since you're used to sliding them around, some extra sliding in the wet won't come as a surprise, and the narrow tires help reduce aquaplaning. A few years ago, for instance, one of these Bugatti Type 35s finished in the podium in a historic race at Portimao in the wet. The driver managed to pass and stay ahead of cars decades newer than his car!
This was a slightly frustrating one for me with game issues and a pretty low spot on the grid, but I made the most of it I think :) the 308 did me proud once again hehehe
@kijekuyo9494 I have a whole host of builds for it that I can share if you want to try any haha, it's not a car with many uses but it's a bit of a running joke at this point so I use it quite a lot 😅
Did you tune the front wheels/steering angle/camber on the car? Seems the wheels were sticking outwards (Reverse cambered) Which technically might of helped it drive.
Apparently, somebody in real life arranged a drag race with a Type 35 (drum brakes, narrow tires, and all), and pitted it against a 1960s or early 1970s Porsche 911... Apparently, the Porsche did not manage to beat the old Bugatti...
Wait up, is this a FailRace video? I never imagined Alex driving a Bugatti Type 51 - GPLaps, maybe... And isn't the Broadbented One doing the rain physics?
Was great to finally be able to race with you people. Cleanest racing (mostly) I have ever had in Forza multiplayer.
Real
Not a hard bar to surpass lol Forza public lobbies are a warzone
@@Nismo_350Z_TTVIf you’re near the front and show respect, you usually get it back. I’ve had very few issues with dirty drivers outside of the first few weeks.
17:50 alex finds the single car in the field that is smaller and lighter and immediately punts it.
Alex, what you discovered was a vehicle with a very stable slip angle. its the angle at which the tires are close to the limit of losing grip. a car with good weight distribution and special attention paid to the tires and how the cars weight moves around will produce an easy to drive car that slightly slides around the corner which is the fastest way around said corner. there is quite a bit of positive camber on the front too?
glad im not the only one who nitced the front camber
@@MtlkatRacing wonder what tire wear is like if thats trut to the real car
That positive camber is true to the original car, the original car had even narrower tyres and they were more rounded in the tread pattern, almost like a motorcycle tyre, so the wear was not a huge issue.
I can't remember the exact reason for the positive camber that was very common on race cars at the time, but part of me thinks it was to do with vehicle balance on turn in to a corner.
The positive camber would give the inner tire in a turn a bigger contact patch, and the overall reduced contact size just before turn in would lessen the capability of snap oversteer, not quite more stable, but more predictable and easier to correct than it would be.
@@LukeTheJokerThe camber on the Bugattis were to line the contact patch of the tires with the steering kingpin to lighten the steering.
_"Tonight, we go all vintage for a car that even James May would like. This is FailRace, where expect to see:_
2:54 _"A Bugatti battles into a rainy corner._
9:32 _"A Porsche defends into a wet corner._
15:11 _"And a Toyota takes out Impega. Guess where it happened?"_
This was a fun vstc, got my first ever win! I’m very happy with how my escort turned out, it was a lot of fun
Also, thing is, cars like these with narrow tires, while they don't have much grip in the dry, work really well in the wet. The historic racers who still race them explained that since the tires don't have much grip in the dry to begin with, you won't lose too much grip in the wet, and since you're used to sliding them around, some extra sliding in the wet won't come as a surprise, and the narrow tires help reduce aquaplaning. A few years ago, for instance, one of these Bugatti Type 35s finished in the podium in a historic race at Portimao in the wet. The driver managed to pass and stay ahead of cars decades newer than his car!
Good to see Alex get his elbows out in this one and throw it up the inside and outside a few times.
Awesome racing with Hords in that 914, very enjoyable to watch.
You turned D class racing into a classic car rally
I am all for it
Had a brilliant race with shadow in race 1 but did not drive well at mid ohio
There's something about a car that's unexpectedly fun to drive.
6:54 thought that sound was in my room
Drives like you're playing Mario Kart 😄 I approve!
This was a slightly frustrating one for me with game issues and a pretty low spot on the grid, but I made the most of it I think :) the 308 did me proud once again hehehe
I want so badly to make the 308 work, but after many attempts in multiple classes, I can't seem to do anything with it. Good job with it!
@kijekuyo9494 I have a whole host of builds for it that I can share if you want to try any haha, it's not a car with many uses but it's a bit of a running joke at this point so I use it quite a lot 😅
Would absolutely love to see mlre cars like this! Honestly watching this makes me want the game so I can have a little fun with the car..
This is my go too drift car in fh5 due to its handling
I really really love to see these pre ww2 cars, nicely done
Is it just me or does the bugatti have massive positive camber on the front wheels?
Did you tune the front wheels/steering angle/camber on the car? Seems the wheels were sticking outwards (Reverse cambered) Which technically might of helped it drive.
Hey, I was just wondering what happened to The driven till Destruction series.
On hiatus for the moment, until Alex has settled in with his new PC; he only just recently released a new vid involving Beam NG
The failrace stripes are off center.
Sorry you cant unsee that now😂
Apparently, somebody in real life arranged a drag race with a Type 35 (drum brakes, narrow tires, and all), and pitted it against a 1960s or early 1970s Porsche 911...
Apparently, the Porsche did not manage to beat the old Bugatti...
That race was so upsetting I started first, but my car was very heavy and couldn't keep up with anyone. At least I got p16!
OMG YAY it turns!!!
Hey alex, do you play iracing at all? Im writing this as im waiting for it to update so i can finally mess around in the rain
Wait up, is this a FailRace video? I never imagined Alex driving a Bugatti Type 51 - GPLaps, maybe...
And isn't the Broadbented One doing the rain physics?
Slightly sliding is the key 😅