What These Pilots did was Amazing! | British Airways flight 9

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  • Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
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    A Boeing 747-200 is cruising along at 37000 feet over the eastern Indian ocean when its suddenly engulfed in a huge ball of light. Seconds later the engines start failing, one after the other and the pilots have to desperately try to re-light them to avoid a ditching in the sea in complete darkness.
    This is the increadible story of British Airways flight 009 and for this video I have invited captain Eric Moody himself (!!) to explain some details from the flight. Only here on the Mentour Pilot channel.
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    Below you will find the links to videos and sources used in this episode.
    Brief Room: @ Airbus
    europe.content.twixlmedia.com...
    St Elmos Fire: @ baron494
    / st_elmos_fire
    Trace Fire: @ Anadolu Ajansi & Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri
    i0.wp.com/militaryleak.com/wp...
    747 Sim: @Las Vegas 747 Simulator
    www.vegas747sim.com/747simulat...
    Volcano: @ NASA
    upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...
    Volcano 2: @ NASA
    qz.com/1304930/photos-of-volc...
    Volcano Lightning: @ Martin Bernetti/Getty Images
    static.scientificamerican.com...
    Jakarta Mountains: @ efjakarta.com
    www.efjakarta.com/assets/uplo...
    Crew: @ britishairwaysflightstousa
    britishairwaysflightstousa.bl...
    Engine Damage: @ UNKNOWN
    code7700.com/images/ba_9_engi...
    European 747: @ Ken Fielding
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British...
    Angle of Attack Vane: @ Burkhard Domke
    b-domke.de/AviationImages/A40...
    Air Con Duct: @ A380spotter
    www.flickr.com/photos/a380spo...
    Mask on: @ Lowell Sannes
    live.staticflickr.com/214/497...
    Singapore 747: @ singaporeair.com
    www.singaporeair.com/saar5/im...
    Iceland Volcano: @ Boaworm
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_er...
    Image Iceland: @ Jeff Schmaltz - NASA
    www.earthobservatory.nasa.gov...
    BA 747: @ Richard Silagi
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British...
    VAAC Article: @ Met Office
    www.metoffice.gov.uk/services...
    00:00 - Intro
    01:28 - Chapter 1: Flight Overview
    01:50 - Chapter 2: Souls on Board
    02:17 - Chapter 3: The Flight Crew
    02:45 - Chapter 4: Initial Briefing
    03:59 - Chapter 5: Volcanic Activity
    05:12 - Chapter 6: First Sign of Problems
    06:49 - Chapter 7: St Elmo’s Fire
    08:46 - Chapter 8: A Glowing Aircraft
    10:14 - Chapter 9: Engine Failures
    11:18 - Chapter 10: About Turn
    13:22 - Chapter 11: Mayday, Mayday
    17:14 - Chapter 12: The Problem With Ash
    20:08 - Chapter 13: Restart Attempts
    21:31 - Chapter 14: Conflicting Instruments
    23:08 - Chapter 15: Between A Rock and A Hard Place
    24:39 - Chapter 16: A Legendary Passenger Address
    26:43 - Chapter 17: Possible Water Landing
    29:25 - Chapter 18: Climbing Again
    30:54 - Chapter 19: Jakarta Bound
    32:05 - Chapter 20: Visual Problems
    32:44 - Chapter 21: Localiser Approach
    34:20 - Chapter 22: The Aftermath
    36:34 - Chapter 23: Commendations
    37:09 - Final Chapter: Future Training
    39:18 - Outro

КОМЕНТАРІ • 4,9 тис.

  • @MentourPilot
    @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +488

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    • @TheBmco99
      @TheBmco99 2 роки тому +14

      Excellent reporting very professional on the story

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +22

      @Catharina, Sweden Förmodligen, då jag inte får några sådana klagomål från engelsktalande tittare. 😉

    • @mitchelladams9612
      @mitchelladams9612 2 роки тому +4

      1st

    • @Muck006
      @Muck006 2 роки тому +6

      SUGGESTION: If the aviation industry hasnt thought about it ... there might be a simple way to have a "detector" for ash or other particles that might work in a similar way and which havent been predicted by the weather forecasts:
      _A simple "sacrificial" piece of glass somewhere on the side, which is "softer" than the wear-resistant main glass. If that becomes milky "something is amiss". Checking that piece of glass could become part of the checklist easily._

    • @ferrari2k
      @ferrari2k 2 роки тому +1

      I just had a thought with the 737 NG now becoming old and such: is there a new type rating planned for 737 NG pilots or will you continue to fly this plane for years to come?

  • @bgezal
    @bgezal 2 роки тому +8364

    The unsung hero in this incident is captain Moody's bladder.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 2 роки тому +219

      I know, right?

    • @noop1111
      @noop1111 2 роки тому +635

      Press "p" to pay respects.

    • @martinmillar8447
      @martinmillar8447 2 роки тому +564

      Aviate, navigate, communicate, micturate.

    • @jeromethiel4323
      @jeromethiel4323 2 роки тому +290

      I'm betting he actually let go, i know i would have. When you have no time to deal with it and have to go, you just go. Deal with the mess later. Especially when lives are on the line.

    • @Showing_the_car_
      @Showing_the_car_ 2 роки тому +259

      or his sphincter... we weren't told...

  • @musicmanfelipe
    @musicmanfelipe Рік тому +736

    “We have a small problem, all four engines have stopped.” British understatement at its finest.

    • @HANKSANDY69420
      @HANKSANDY69420 6 місяців тому +18

      *Old WWII vet has entered the chat*

    • @Twobarpsi
      @Twobarpsi 3 місяці тому +8

      Stiff upper lip.

    • @Dystopia2024
      @Dystopia2024 2 місяці тому +4

      😂

    • @Gerhard57NL
      @Gerhard57NL 6 днів тому +3

      Yes, Rolls Royce is said to react to their car failures in similar fashion; "the car hasn't broken down, it just fails to proceed".

    • @RenoReborn
      @RenoReborn 20 годин тому

      We British have a saying: It could be worse

  • @joeyragsdale1998
    @joeyragsdale1998 Місяць тому +213

    Captain Eric Moody passed away earlier today at the age of 84

    • @viggojorgensson4708
      @viggojorgensson4708 Місяць тому +22

      RIP Stoic son of the WWII era

    • @Tailss1
      @Tailss1 26 днів тому +14

      I wonder if any of the passengers of this flight attended. I know if I was one of them I would have, no exceptions.

    • @helenmiddlemas5075
      @helenmiddlemas5075 21 день тому +5

      I had no idea. The crew especially Captain Eric were so humble. They were aviation superstars
      I’ve watched so much about this flight, and it’s amazing. I’ve watched it so many times on ‘Air Crash Investigation’!
      The crew were amazing. Had it not of been this crew, it very possibly ended the way it did.

    • @user-wm2rs6eb1w
      @user-wm2rs6eb1w 16 днів тому +3

      Dear Sir,
      Your explanation is highly admirable.
      Are you an Aeronautics Engineer.
      Please keep it up.
      May God Bless you.
      Thanks.
      Capt. George Samarawickrama
      (A Fmr. Sri Lankan Army Capt.)
      Vienna - Austria.

    • @Andain_83
      @Andain_83 3 дні тому

      Peace & light be with you, Captain Moody. May you continue to glide above heaven's clouds, your sprit free & at peace at last. 💜💜❤️🕊✈️🕯💫

  • @SorbusAucubaria
    @SorbusAucubaria 2 роки тому +2522

    "A small problem in that all our four engines have failed". Oh, man, that is quite an understatement.

    • @Luubelaar
      @Luubelaar Рік тому +62

      Right? Understatement of the century.

    • @dankelpuff8381
      @dankelpuff8381 Рік тому +210

      As a passenger you have to chose wisely in dying of laughter or waiting for ground impact.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin Рік тому +37

      I also think they were very much aware of what was going on at that point, with all the St. Elmo's Fire and the engine sound vanishing completely.

    • @medler2110
      @medler2110 Рік тому +92

      Its up there with, "Things are a bit sticky, sir," when 600 men of the Gloucestershire Regiment were being attacked by 30,000 Chinese soldiers in Korea.

    • @jillcrowe2626
      @jillcrowe2626 Рік тому

      God bless the British. They are the kings of understatement.

  • @FLT111
    @FLT111 Місяць тому +183

    R.I.P Captain Moody. You and your crew did an outstanding job getting everyone down safely.

    • @zabi_aka
      @zabi_aka Місяць тому +2

      Has he passed away?? 😮😮

    • @TheBd0g
      @TheBd0g Місяць тому +5

      @@zabi_aka Just recently yes

    • @Arvl.
      @Arvl. 24 дні тому +1

      F

  • @michaelscott5653
    @michaelscott5653 Місяць тому +114

    R.I.P Captain Eric Moody, your bravery and airmanship will never be forgotten.

  • @hannapaulava6665
    @hannapaulava6665 4 місяці тому +209

    Omg I thought the parts with Captain were from some news article but you actually had a chance to talk to the Captain for this video. He seems to be a lovely person and a great Captain

  • @anadubar4819
    @anadubar4819 Рік тому +1815

    "I trust you are not too distressed about this."
    This was so British.
    Also the old WW2 veteran who was not impressed and immediately tried to top this story with his own.

    • @pommiebears
      @pommiebears Рік тому +112

      We used to have grit, and stiff upper lips. Now, we’re turning into a bunch of whiners. Just my opinion.

    • @FS-qk5uq
      @FS-qk5uq Рік тому

      @@pommiebears yep just look at you whining.

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 Рік тому +169

      Maybe a B-52 pilot will top it with a story where he lost eight engines...

    • @hazeltree7738
      @hazeltree7738 Рік тому +205

      @@pommiebears From my perspective, I see "We used to hide our problems to be tough, now we're talking about them openly". Not trying to start an argument or anything, just saying we might not necessarily be getting "Whiny"

    • @edwardmylnychuk5774
      @edwardmylnychuk5774 Рік тому +57

      the vet was an ass for doing so, he did not have a plane full of passengers to save.

  • @ZenoDovahkiin
    @ZenoDovahkiin 2 роки тому +2123

    Absolutely brilliant crew.
    "A small problem insofar as all our engines have failed."

    • @chrisb9143
      @chrisb9143 2 роки тому +241

      That's such a British way to say it

    • @leahparker9033
      @leahparker9033 Рік тому +216

      "A bit of a pickle"

    • @goldy_on_pc930
      @goldy_on_pc930 Рік тому +113

      has the same energy as " a small loan of a million dollars"

    • @MegaJackhunter
      @MegaJackhunter Рік тому +55

      I ask myself in which situation he would say we have a big problem ^^

    • @missmcphee8859
      @missmcphee8859 Рік тому +36

      As a British person this is hilarious 😂

  • @john2000l
    @john2000l 2 роки тому +1453

    The best part of this particular event discussion is that you had Captain Moody online with you giving you real time information. So many of your incident reports cannot include a member of the flight crew, but this was a refreshing additional component. Anytime you can do this, please add it to your outstanding videos.

    • @gypsybackpackers9292
      @gypsybackpackers9292 2 роки тому +2

      Try the star newspaper or scope magazine. I remember it too

    • @David-ud9ju
      @David-ud9ju 2 роки тому +55

      Unfortunately, most plane incidents don't have a flight crew who can talk any longer.

    • @Petra44YT
      @Petra44YT 2 роки тому +22

      Yes, it was brilliant that he was the one who quoted his own p.a. from so many years previously.

  • @Sezfluffy
    @Sezfluffy Рік тому +281

    I was an air hostess in 2005 and flew with Captain Moody at BA. We saw this incident on training but I didn't realise it was him at the time.

    • @DeirdreMcNamara
      @DeirdreMcNamara 6 місяців тому +8

      MEGA MEGA HUGS TO BA! Long story, but in brief, stepping on board the 747BA transatlantics was always like "coming home," and the crews, oh, soooo sweet - good natured, funny, absolutely darling... Love you all!

  • @philstuf
    @philstuf Рік тому +573

    Flight 9 is just an example of diligence and pure skill out of the pilots and engineer. "Never give up. Never surrender." They pulled it off. They saved the plane and the passengers.

    • @mikebronicki8264
      @mikebronicki8264 Рік тому +14

      NSEA Protector, Captain Peter Quincy Taggart.
      Galaxy Quest is a 10 out of 10 movie!

    • @philstuf
      @philstuf Рік тому +4

      @@mikebronicki8264 HAH! You got my reference. And you are 100% correct. Great movie!

    • @whoknows8225
      @whoknows8225 Рік тому +5

      who would give up in a situation like that tho... not anyone that deserves a pilot seat anyway

    • @philstuf
      @philstuf Рік тому +9

      @@whoknows8225 I would HOPE I had the wherewithal to do what they did... Especially in their dire situation, but Flight 9 lives on as a shining star as what SHOULD be done. And everyone walked away. Also, lessons learned. What a fantastic crew, both in and out of the cabin.

    • @0katmandude0
      @0katmandude0 7 місяців тому +1

      Indeed. Exceptional pilots. Then again what where they supposed to say on the PA?? Scream : "oh my gaaawd we're going to dieeeeee!!😂

  • @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars
    @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars 2 роки тому +857

    My favourite tale about this incident is that Capt Moody said that everyone on the aircraft was now an honorary member of his Jakarta gliding ciub! What a guy! Leader of an exemplary team!!

    • @seanbigay1042
      @seanbigay1042 2 роки тому +53

      The Galunggong Glider Club. A very exclusive estabishment.

    • @DimitarFCBM
      @DimitarFCBM 2 роки тому +18

      @@seanbigay1042 Yep, that part was even featured on the Air Crash Investigation episode, right in the end!

    • @sukhygill9596
      @sukhygill9596 Рік тому +5

      well said, i wish there are more like this man, awesome example of a great human

    • @h7283
      @h7283 Рік тому

      Uh,what mean

    • @mawmawvee
      @mawmawvee Рік тому

      @@sukhygill9596 Born pilot, in my estimation.

  • @thiswasnoboakingaccident6368
    @thiswasnoboakingaccident6368 2 роки тому +675

    In an interview with some of the crew, a question was asked about legendary British courage and keeping a "stiff upper lip" during the ordeal. One answered; "The upper lip may have been stiff but the knees were definitely knocking".

    • @MrSummerblade
      @MrSummerblade 2 роки тому +48

      Hahaha, I bet the sphincters were twitching as well!

    • @thomasfink2385
      @thomasfink2385 2 роки тому +27

      What an adorable answer from the crewman.

    • @jadewhite908
      @jadewhite908 2 роки тому +7

      He's amazing 😍

    • @yankees29
      @yankees29 7 місяців тому +5

      I’m from NY and i must say British people are quite stoic. My mom is from Irish ancestry and she rarely shows much worry or emotion about certain things.

    • @HaggisMuncher-69-420
      @HaggisMuncher-69-420 2 місяці тому

      And now the UK is infested with illegals so there's no such thing as British natives anymore.
      Their country has been lost.

  • @LaddieT
    @LaddieT Місяць тому +22

    Eric Moody passed away today. RIP Eric!

  • @peterelder7425
    @peterelder7425 2 роки тому +1095

    Hi, I remember this incident well! At the time I was an Avionics Apprentice working for British Airways. I was one of the ground crew who worked on this aircraft once it returned to LHR. It required a lot of work to get it airworthy again. The plane still had a sulphurous smell to it when we were repairing it. All the pitot and static heads were replaced, every piece of piping from them was disconnected and blown clean and a whole lot more. I also remember cleaning and repacking the 400 odd passenger oxygen masks. It was in our hanger for many days, then went to the paint shop for a new coat of paint. The flight crew certainly earned thier money that night.

    • @queenberengaria9626
      @queenberengaria9626 2 роки тому +80

      Peter Elder: Thank you! What a fascinating insight into the period after this incident. Glad to hear the aircraft survived (to 2004 bless it) and was so thoroughly refurbished to be returned to normal service.

    • @kdean2152
      @kdean2152 2 роки тому +92

      I was also a BA apprentice at the time. In the video you state the aircraft was flown back to Heathrow to have the engines changed which would have been unsafe. New engines were flown out which I watched being loaded into a heavy lift aircraft and replaced on site. Also the version aircraft you use in the video was a Boeing 747-400 but it was a B747-200. Hope this helps

    • @srccde
      @srccde 2 роки тому +61

      @@kdean2152 Listening helps. He said the aircraft was "shipped" back, not flown. He also said in the beginning that it was a 747-200.

    • @eddiegardner8232
      @eddiegardner8232 2 роки тому +74

      The flight crew ALWAYS earns their money. On this night, they were underpaid.

    • @Fullchristainname
      @Fullchristainname 2 роки тому +33

      Considering how notorious volcanic ash is for messing up electronics and being impossible to remove, I’m impressed you were able to get it cleaned out at all.

  • @rickybuhl3176
    @rickybuhl3176 2 роки тому +363

    When we can make these discoveries and safety changes without lives being lost - it's a real win. Captain Moody & crew, bloody legends.

    • @jamesries5534
      @jamesries5534 2 роки тому +18

      I also read where they had a 'reunion type' flight with Cptn. Moody and I don't know how many others from the original flight.

  • @steveparker1466
    @steveparker1466 Рік тому +621

    In the late 80's I used to work at Rolls Royce in Derby and this flight was still talked about. The story I heard was that when those engines came back for inspection and repairs the engineers were amazed he even got one restarted let alone all 4 the damage on them was that great having said that RB211 engines were known for being over engineered (as I would hope all Jet engines are) and could run in some amazing conditions.

    • @reinbeers5322
      @reinbeers5322 Рік тому +7

      What exactly was damaged inside the engines? Are there any pictures of the inside of them?

    • @rebeccakoomans
      @rebeccakoomans Рік тому +47

      @@reinbeers5322 I can't show you an example, after being out of the RAAF for 43 Yrs... BUT I have personally SEEN the "Sandblasting" effect on Fighter Jets Cockpit material... as said, its like someone used a sandblaster to get rid of the smooth surface, to make a Bonding surface for primer to adhere a section of surface with.

    • @michaelperry4308
      @michaelperry4308 Рік тому +40

      Yes, I was there when the engines were returned for inspection IT WAS VERY SCARY, the fitter who took apart the 03 module got out about 3 buckets of solidified ash, given the small volume of the 03 you can imagine how little air was getting through. The turbine blades. intermediate and high pressure were all so short as to be useless. Glad I was not on the flight.

    • @dopiaza2006
      @dopiaza2006 Рік тому +10

      I would imagine today's engines are built to a budget, not to be as reliable as possible.

    • @chass1771
      @chass1771 Рік тому +20

      @@dopiaza2006 If an engine gained a reputation for unreliability, airlines simply wouldn't buy them. It is they who decide which engines are used, not the airframe manufacturer.

  • @Jonoridge
    @Jonoridge Рік тому +250

    I have to say coming from your Air France Flight 447 video to this one it's like night and day comparing the competency of the crew and how the situation was handled. The composure, teamwork and just sheer competency of this crew is a sight to behold. A great story and video.

    • @jonb3150
      @jonb3150 11 місяців тому +16

      Different circumstances and different jets. Ironically it would have been better for the Air France pilots to loose engine power for some time like happened here because their pitot tubes were always showing them slowing down and they started pitching up and as a result stalled.
      If Air France engines would have stalled they would have woken up the captain and had much less of chaotic situation in the cabin while they would just be gliding in calm way.. Eventually the pitot tubes of course did unfreeze on the Air France jet but then they were already in massive stall.
      If the engines had failed then a few minutes later all instruments would have been normal again and they would realize their altitude, pitch and speed

    • @Robinbamv
      @Robinbamv 10 місяців тому +29

      @@jonb3150 The inability of the Air France crew to understand the correct pitch & power settings for the aircraft they operated showed a fundamental lack of flying skill that is inexcusable.

    • @jonb3150
      @jonb3150 10 місяців тому +8

      @@Robinbamv Yes I would suggest you read my comment again. As I say it is different situation. If you are referring to the pilots not understanding the pitch and power settings because one of the pilot was pitching up while the other was not, then it is is not because they didn't "understand", it was more chaotic confusion. Because Airbus has the pitch sticks on the side of each pilot, they can't see with their own eyes what the other is doing. The pilot on the left thought he had the controls wile the pilot on the left seems to have thought he was not pitching up.
      Like I say, it is much more chaotic situation.
      I stand by what I said that temporary engine power loss would have been much better for the Air France flight since they would have just glided the plane and then got all instruments back when pitot tubes unfroze.

    • @andriyshevchenko6689
      @andriyshevchenko6689 6 місяців тому +5

      @@jonb3150yes they had a much simpler situation where a pilot created a crash out of nothing. It’s insane that trained pilots did not have 2 seconds in their brain to realize that the only reason a fully functioning airplane could be falling out of the sky would be due to stalling, and even I knew from some basic videos that you must pitch into the stall to recover from it. Imagine a pilot with thousands of hours of flight and sims.
      There are certain people that if you meet them you’ll know they shouldn’t be trusted with anything remotely complex and consequential, and I suspect that guy who created the accident was one of them.
      Flights like these at least make me hopeful that most pilots didn’t get there through incompetence.

    • @nomadpurple6154
      @nomadpurple6154 5 місяців тому +3

      @@jonb3150 The panic of the Air France FO happened before there were two people giving independent instructions to the plane. Even I knew before this incident a peto can become blocked. The FO failed completely to recognise a basic issue, reacted erratically and pancaked a plane full of passengers. He didn't aviate at any point, he pulled up, and up, into a stall.

  • @slimyelow
    @slimyelow 2 роки тому +319

    The team work on landing with sand blasted windshields plus the communication amongst the crew during the crisis were outstanding. I have followed many disaster stories where these traits would have been of absolute life saving value.

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 2 роки тому +4

      One thing I learned in Kuwait as that you can temporarily sort of fix that problem by spraying water on it. I mean, it's not great, but better than nothing.

    • @israelben-joseph9103
      @israelben-joseph9103 2 роки тому

      Hi i

    • @israelben-joseph9103
      @israelben-joseph9103 2 роки тому

      Yea p

  • @vinchits
    @vinchits 2 роки тому +418

    I am a pilot and have flown some of the types of aircraft you make your videos on. I have to say you have nailed the analyses, being firstly respectful of all those involved, then discussing the possible failures, including the agencies' findings briefly, showing such illuminating videos and enabling even the lay viewer to easily understand the narrative. You give your entirely valid opinions at the appropriate time. I wish to congratulate you on running a valuable and informative channel of good quality and integrity. Also, you might mention your own name somewhere.

    • @adash7841
      @adash7841 Рік тому +1

      Are you Indian pilot?

    • @DavidSmith-vr1nb
      @DavidSmith-vr1nb Рік тому +17

      His name is Petter, that's no secret to any of his followers.

    • @gaeazimmer9477
      @gaeazimmer9477 6 місяців тому +4

      Petter Hörnfeldt

  • @pierzing.glint1sh76
    @pierzing.glint1sh76 Місяць тому +7

    How the miracle on the Hudson was made into a movie but this wasn't boggles the mind. A tonne more material to work with aswell I dare say. What a story!

  • @alk3myst
    @alk3myst Рік тому +216

    The fires aside, that plane had to have gotten very quiet very fast when all four engines went down.

    • @pommiebears
      @pommiebears Рік тому +73

      Imagine the horrifying noise….of not hearing noise. Omg, I’d wet me self. 😮

    • @rebeccakoomans
      @rebeccakoomans Рік тому +7

      @@pommiebears Hmmm... I would not have mentioned the wetting! LOL! PMSL!

    • @the_rover1
      @the_rover1 Рік тому +17

      ​@@pommiebears "FINALLY, the noise has stopped. I'll have some splendid rest now. Sleep tight, ladies and gentlemen." 😂

    • @petep.2092
      @petep.2092 Рік тому +4

      I'm not sure that all four went silent. #4 was definitely down because they actually went through the procedure to shut it down by turning off the fuel supply and pulling its fire handle. I don't think they did that with the other 3 engines, hence the discussion about whether they should try to restart #4. The other three were barely running, but between the three of them-or maybe only one of them-there was enough electrical power being produced to keep the avionics and lighting going. Some airlines took the 747 with no APU as the probability of all four engines shutting down in flight was considered remote.
      Most jet engines can't be restarted above about 25,000 ft and as the engine wears out that altitude gets lower and lower. Because the engines were so worn out by the sandblasting ash they needed the denser air below 15,000 ft to relight. The increased windmilling effect of the denser air may have helped the restart too.

    • @raerohan4241
      @raerohan4241 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@petep.2092 They shut down #4 at first, but they tried to restart it eventually. It was the first engine to start working again once they dropped down to a lower altitude

  • @robertgoodnow5069
    @robertgoodnow5069 2 роки тому +138

    These Pilots are the type of Men I teach my teenage Son to lookup to. Stone cold nerves and clear thinking under pressure

    • @Phineas1626
      @Phineas1626 2 роки тому +1

      You could just teach him to act like a professional golfer.

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 2 роки тому

      @@Phineas1626 what?

    • @Phineas1626
      @Phineas1626 2 роки тому +1

      @@dana102083 I think it’s fairly straightforward what I meant, or do you really want me to elaborate?

    • @Phineas1626
      @Phineas1626 2 роки тому +1

      @@user-otzlixr Not professionals.

    • @pastelclouds1922
      @pastelclouds1922 2 роки тому +3

      Honestly, I’m not sure if it’s possible to teach someone to remain calm under pressure. From observation of people, it seems that our reaction to stress is ingrained and can’t really be changed. That being said, I hope I’m wrong because the world would certainly benefit from having more stress-resilient people.

  • @AuGAlaN
    @AuGAlaN 2 роки тому +22

    why are the best pilot stories always from british airways.
    amazing

    • @Maya-bu2rf
      @Maya-bu2rf 2 місяці тому +1

      I agree. The flight where the captain was sucked out of the windshield was amazing. I have flown BA a number of times. My sister asked which airline to take from Tampa to the UK and I said BA without a doubt. She and her husband had a connecting flight to Croatia for a vacation with friends who live on a yacht there. They loved BA.

    • @pierzing.glint1sh76
      @pierzing.glint1sh76 Місяць тому +1

      @@Maya-bu2rf Yeah you're not 100% sure whether the flight will go to plan or not, but you have complete confidence in the ability of the staff to get you through it. And I think that is the highest praise one can give to an airline or anything professional organisation in any field.

  • @cankzilla
    @cankzilla Рік тому +150

    The visuals of the St. Elmo's fire were so cool! Couldn't imagine flying through something like that. Great job to the crew and thank you for all of your amazing videos!!

    • @miles-thesleeper-monroe8466
      @miles-thesleeper-monroe8466 Рік тому +4

      Or "Monsieur St Elmooo" as our French French friends refer to it. When they encountered it and crashed n a330 minutes later. Spooks you.

    • @cankzilla
      @cankzilla Рік тому +3

      @@miles-thesleeper-monroe8466 Just looks crazy! Obviously not good to fly through volcanic ash as was so greatly explained but the visuals are great :)

    • @sleepysera
      @sleepysera 9 місяців тому +2

      @@cankzilla Well, you can see it near thunderstorms too, you don't need the volcanic ash for it :) You can even encounter it on the ground, at the top of high buildings with incoming thunderstorms, or at mountaintop structures. Though, for obvious reasons, that's also something you want to get away from since it is an indicator of coming lightning 😅

    • @MarsJenkar
      @MarsJenkar 5 місяців тому +1

      @@sleepyseraI've heard about St. Elmo's fire being seen gathering around ship's masts as well. Sailing vessels could only do so much to avoid an approaching storm so I'm guessing it was a signal to the crew to prepare for coming stormy weather.

  • @bobanob1967
    @bobanob1967 Рік тому +21

    "Stay calm and carry on!" has often saved the day.

  • @justayoutuber1906
    @justayoutuber1906 2 роки тому +210

    After seeing those blue sparks apear, I was pretty sure they were going to land back in 1955.

    • @asgerms
      @asgerms 2 роки тому +4

      Haha, the visuals got me thinking about that classic scene too...

    • @lizlovsdagmara5525
      @lizlovsdagmara5525 2 роки тому +2

      Why stop at 1955? What be your choice of year they should to go back to and why?

    • @jaymzx0
      @jaymzx0 2 роки тому +15

      @@lizlovsdagmara5525 This is a reference to the movie _Back To The Future_

    • @lizlovsdagmara5525
      @lizlovsdagmara5525 2 роки тому +4

      @@jaymzx0 One of the sequels had the DeLorean going back much further in time ...

    • @jaymzx0
      @jaymzx0 2 роки тому +5

      @@lizlovsdagmara5525 True - 1855. Sorry, I missed the joke.

  • @Nufsed007
    @Nufsed007 2 роки тому +2396

    I had the honour, many years ago to be flown in a glider by Capt Moody. We were towed up on the first attempt by a winch line which broke at 1000 ft, much too low for a safe flight. Capt Moody banked right and circled in to a perfect landing, I was about 15 at the time and shaking like a leaf. I looked at him and said something like, "that was a quick reaction and a great landing, you must fly these a lot", he just smiled and said "Oh yes, but not as many hours as the 747"! We re-attached the winch and I had the best glider flight of my life.

    • @ianwilkinson4602
      @ianwilkinson4602 2 роки тому +89

      Great story, and so much was learned from the incident, probably saving many lives.

    • @stephenmiller2544
      @stephenmiller2544 2 роки тому +103

      thats awesome man. I love looking in the comments and seeing people that were actually involved in some way, great story!!!

    • @hsw268
      @hsw268 2 роки тому +40

      You also orbited the moon during the Apollo 11 mission ....

    • @MrChocobit
      @MrChocobit 2 роки тому +178

      @@hsw268 yeah everybody is lying. There is no true story on this earth. Go and get ur negativity fixed.

    • @ogedeh
      @ogedeh 2 роки тому +24

      My friend has a sugar glider it's really cute

  • @markotango54
    @markotango54 Місяць тому +10

    Sad news, it's just announced that Capt Eric Moody has passed away.
    RIP Skipper

  • @Jeremyhawaii808
    @Jeremyhawaii808 Місяць тому +7

    Rest in Peace Captain Moody 🙏

  • @mikemck4796
    @mikemck4796 2 роки тому +440

    You know it’s a bad situation when you’re in an airliner and the pilots “glider experience” comes into play.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +46

      Yeah 😂

    • @mikemck4796
      @mikemck4796 2 роки тому +23

      @@MentourPilot On the bright side, they’re given an opportunity to become a legend.
      Silver linings where you find them.

    • @CorkeryCoop
      @CorkeryCoop 2 роки тому +22

      As it did for the ‘Gimli Glider’ 767 (Air Canada 143) that ran out of fuel, and Air Transat 236 that also ran out of fuel.

    • @PENNA65000
      @PENNA65000 2 роки тому +18

      Most especially for Captain Sully landing on the Hudson River. He gave much credit to his sailplane experience.

    • @NoobNoobNews
      @NoobNoobNews 2 роки тому +17

      Oddly enough, glider pilots make for some of the best pilots in general. So, a normally bad situation isn't as bad as it could be if the pilot has glider experience. So, as bad as it is, it is actually one of the better scenarios.

  • @fireflyrobert
    @fireflyrobert 2 роки тому +392

    As a retired airline pilot of some 40 years plus I salute this crew. There is a saying that it's money for old rope until this sort of thing happens.
    A fantastic example of problem solving and teamwork which saved the day.

    • @DrJohnnyJ
      @DrJohnnyJ 2 роки тому +1

      "money for old rope". Like it.

    • @bmell1252
      @bmell1252 2 роки тому +2

      What does that mean, exactly? “It’s money for old rope.” I’ve never heard this saying before, but for some reason, it intrigues me!
      😁 Thanks!
      ✌️Best Regards from Tampa Bay Florida 🍊🍊🍊

    • @fireflyrobert
      @fireflyrobert 2 роки тому +21

      @@bmell1252 It means money or reward earned for little or no effort.
      "To make money from old rope comes from the practice of picking apart old ropes to create oakum (a fibrous material used with hot pitch for caulking seams in old-time sailing vessels). It was a chore performed by women and children in Victorian workhouses or by sailors when their ships were docked."

    • @MoniqueAO888
      @MoniqueAO888 2 роки тому +7

      Hello fireflyrobert, you are so right:TEAMWORK is really important in the airline-business (and also skills) !!! During my 33-year experience as a flight-attendant I was always amazed, how well working-hand-in-hand was performed by the whole crew. Well, otherwise problematic situations could easily get out of control. I think companies who "operate on the ground" could profit a lot from the knowledge/performance of crews, to avoid problems in their company.

    • @fireflyrobert
      @fireflyrobert 2 роки тому +3

      @@MoniqueAO888 agreed

  • @dazzlerbob1870
    @dazzlerbob1870 Місяць тому +6

    RIP Captain Moody.

  • @dkm2343
    @dkm2343 Рік тому +145

    I want to say a heart-felt "Thank you" to Mentour Pilot team. As a lay person, I had never known that I would be completely addicted to this channel. What I love about Mentour Pilot is the way each episode is put together. All stories are told with 100% clarity so people with basic knowledge in physics can follow without difficulties. The facts are laid out in a well-structured, well-organised manner, and more importantly, without being hammed-up to create that melodrama that so many story-tellers end up offering. Most crucial of all, there is always a purpose and meaning to each of these programmes so even non-aviation professionals have something to take away.
    This particular episode gets my eyes well-up. Such an incredible story!

    • @SusanBryantInsomniacBookworm
      @SusanBryantInsomniacBookworm Рік тому +4

      This comment made me feel really smart, as I don't consider myself to have even a basic knowledge of physics. So, thanks!

    • @HANKSANDY69420
      @HANKSANDY69420 6 місяців тому +3

      Couldn't have put it better. This man is in stark contrast to the many lazy view-farming videos of similar subject. It's like comparing the way they told the news on the TV in the 60s to the way they do today.
      What's the difference?
      *Well one's actually news, and the other is a drama*

  • @eddyhelicopkut6876
    @eddyhelicopkut6876 2 роки тому +248

    31:00 as the metal of the engine blades and the fused "silica" have a different CTC (coefficient of thermal contraction) , when the engines are stopped and get cooled, the bonded "glass" will separate from the metal; also a fast cooling of very hot glass will make it break into pieces (thermal shock).

    • @valerieann8007
      @valerieann8007 2 роки тому +12

      That's good!!

    • @Russpeed301
      @Russpeed301 2 роки тому +24

      Plus the front fan would be rotating from the fwd movement of the aircraft which should turn the other blades thus loosening the glass particles.

    • @GrayBlood1331
      @GrayBlood1331 2 роки тому +5

      that's what I was thinking too. as cooling happens, the surface area of the glass that's in contact with the metal changes and it flakes off.

  • @philipthoreau3590
    @philipthoreau3590 2 роки тому +353

    Peter, close friends of our parents were on that flight.
    For the rest of their lives they were quietly thankful for the exemplary determination and steadfastness of Eric Moody and his cockpit crew. They said it was on reflection a humbling experience.
    They did fly again and happily. They did say the takeoff from Indonesia was not without its internal tensions, but they still had to get home.
    Thanks for an excellent video. So nice to hear and see skipper and his perspectives.
    Philip. 🇳🇿

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +36

      That’s fantastic to hear!!

    • @CraigHunterUSA
      @CraigHunterUSA 2 роки тому +24

      My father in law was also on that flight. Amazing to hear his recollection of it and glad that I stumbled on this video about it.

    • @MrGangeticus
      @MrGangeticus 2 роки тому +27

      Two of the passengers actually got married! One wrote of her experience on this flight. I think ALL of the passengers and crew are still members of the "Galunggung Glider Association" if I'm not mistaken. Altogether an interesting flight. I'd think they should make a movie out of it.

    • @MrSummerblade
      @MrSummerblade 2 роки тому +6

      @@MrGangeticus The GGA! Haha, excellent - a truly exclusive club

  • @stewartwilkinsonsnr
    @stewartwilkinsonsnr 4 місяці тому +16

    I’m 75 and have loved Aviation since the age of 13. Understanding how a 747 could stay in the air amazed me. This video was just outstanding and so informative. Captain Moody and his crew put their combined knowledge to work out how to save their plane and those souls on board. I for one was sorry to see the 747 disappear from passenger service. In 2010 we flew to Sharm el Sheikh for a two week holiday. With other guests we had to have a further week at the hotel as all UK flights had been suspended due to the Volcano on Iceland.
    I have subscribed to your amazing channel and will enjoy watching more video. I live about 50 minutes from Manchester MAN/EGCC so love to go there in the summer, plus watch the Live Streams. My sincere Thanks to you 👍👏🇬🇧

  • @tedsmith3061
    @tedsmith3061 Рік тому +37

    Hats off to the flight crew. I can't even begin to imagine four of four flame outs. What a miracle in using glide slope and restarting those engines. As well as a tribute to the design of the engines being able to sustain damage...shut down then, after sustaining damage restart and produce enough thrust to keep an aircraft that weighs about a million pounds airborne. Absolutely amazing. Great narration.

  • @roman_air
    @roman_air 2 роки тому +488

    I was a flight attendant for Continental Airlines and was flying to London when the volcano eruption was happening in Iceland in 2010. It was a crazy sight to see from a distance and of course we were a bit nervous once we got closer. Once we landed in London they shut the airport down. We were the last airplane they allowed to land because of the ash. We were like omg well ok lol. We were grounded for a few days because we couldn’t take off and the day we were given the thumbs up to leave we were told that they just cleared aircraft to takeoff for the day. So, we were going to be the first to leave lol. Once in the air the pilots found out they closed the airport right after we took off because it got bad again. It was crazy. We felt like the guinea pigs to check how the skies were for the rest of the flights lol
    Thankfully we made it in and out of London safely. But it was a tad unsettling and a bit scary.

    • @narnigrin
      @narnigrin Рік тому +22

      I spent those few days packed onto trains and ferries with about every other person in Europe, having made the unwise decision to go away for my Easter break and now needing to return home ... I dunno, having breakfast with strangers on the floor of Cologne Hauptbahnhof and trekking confusedly around Belgium trying to get to a ferry terminal was fun and all, but your story sounds both more comfortable and more exciting at the same time 😅

    • @katelyn3997
      @katelyn3997 Рік тому +14

      The Iceland volcano eruption started while I was flying from Australia to Malaysia, when we arrived in Malaysia we learned most flights had been cancelled. I was fortunate to be flying to Japan, so was on one of the few flights that was able to depart that night.

    • @thecolorjune
      @thecolorjune 9 місяців тому +5

      I missed my aunt and uncle’s wedding because of this volcano 😢

    • @roman_air
      @roman_air 9 місяців тому +4

      @@narnigrin wow, your story is an adventure in itself! It can definitely be a scary yet exciting? situation to be in lol Thanks for sharing!

    • @simonewing4222
      @simonewing4222 5 місяців тому

      ​@@thecolorjune lucky you!

  • @loriscook5231
    @loriscook5231 2 роки тому +142

    I’m always a nervous flyer, but find it comforting watching such skilled flight crews and amazing survival stories

    • @bmell1252
      @bmell1252 2 роки тому +2

      I’m surprised you like to watch these kinds of videos.

    • @Fackeldackel
      @Fackeldackel 2 роки тому +1

      Then i recommend you research "gimli glider", there is even a documentation here on youtube. The Gimli glider pilot from Canadian air didn't just have skills, he also must have had balls so big it seems like a miracle the plain got of the ground in the first place. Absolutely stunning.

    • @AureaisChannel
      @AureaisChannel 2 роки тому +2

      Same! I am a bit of a nervous flyer sometimes but I love listening to these kind of stories

    • @mawmawvee
      @mawmawvee Рік тому +2

      @@bmell1252 I'm the same way, but I'm fascinated by flight information like this. I like the videos which end with results like this one did, of course.

  • @janephilpott6565
    @janephilpott6565 Рік тому +193

    Somehow I wasn't aware of this story - my god, it is incredible on so many levels. Captain Moody is a remarkable human being and guardian angel of everyone on that flight and those who lived in close proximity to the Jakarta Airport. I welled up at the part of the story about the landing! And finally, my jaw literally (not figuratively) dropped that the aircraft was in commission for another 22 years (and I mean that positively)! Mr Mentour Pilot - what a brilliant presentation of this story, an extremely talented communicator. So glad UA-cam algorithm put this in my feed 🤩

    • @jimwest3017
      @jimwest3017 Рік тому +10

      I’ve got a better one.
      Northwest 747. Honolulu to Tokyo. Complete hydraulic failure at 45,000 feet. Safely landed in Tokyo was a miracle beyond expectation

    • @janephilpott6565
      @janephilpott6565 Рік тому +8

      @@jimwest3017 I will look that one up - thank you. Good pilots are angels for us all, even on normal flights 😇

    • @rebeccakoomans
      @rebeccakoomans Рік тому

      @@janephilpott6565 - Just don't try going on Helio's! I was lucky never to fly on one... being as superior Officers (RAAF) got my crew of 4's seats for joyrides! They all pranged! Even ones later on when stationed in TVL and having to redo my "drop-in" aircraft firefighting training with my crew, yes, those officers pushing us aside... I wonder if they may have considered that as "KARMA" or not?!

    • @ShainAndrews
      @ShainAndrews Рік тому +1

      God... angles... what ever. I'll take training, engineering, and reality any day of the week.

  • @3Authoress
    @3Authoress 3 місяці тому +2

    This exact incident is what inspired my Master’s thesis focusing on finding a way to track or predict where volcanic ash plumes will likely go during nighttime for air traffic to avoid. Because, at least as of 2018, there was no way for satellites to see & track volcanic ash at night because they required daylight to differentiate volcanic ash plumes from typical clouds.

  • @colingrant321
    @colingrant321 2 роки тому +340

    Mentour documentaries are the best. The quality is amazing, and having a real Pilot presenting adds a level of authenticity TV shows just don't have. Keep doing what your doing Sir Mentour.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +39

      I will sure try!

    • @benitamutebq8246
      @benitamutebq8246 2 роки тому +2

      LP

    • @dallassukerkin6878
      @dallassukerkin6878 2 роки тому +3

      Absolutely agree.

    • @howlinsg1968
      @howlinsg1968 2 роки тому +1

      Die sprichwörtliche deutsche Wertarbeit!

    • @ecs2ecs46
      @ecs2ecs46 2 роки тому +6

      Agreed, the break down of events and delivery of facts are industry best. This guy should have a TV or Cable series for sure. 📺📽🎞🎥

  • @GemmaLB
    @GemmaLB 2 роки тому +49

    These videos get better and better! Having Captain Eric Moody's input is fantastic. His PA is probably the most British thing I've ever heard and I am British!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +13

      😂😂 it was pretty British, yes

    • @chrisg6086
      @chrisg6086 2 роки тому +22

      There's an account published on the internet (possibly PPRUNE) of a legendary 1930s BA captain whose engineer accidentally shut off the fuel to all four engines whilst mid-Atlantic. It's reported that he simply turned around in his seat and said, "Strangely quiet, isn't it, Mr Smith?"

  • @rohesilmnelohe
    @rohesilmnelohe 12 днів тому +3

    31:25
    As an artist working on glass I can tell you why the engines restarted:
    Volcanic glass, just like any other, shrinks when cooled and thus goes under immense internal stress. And under those temperature conditions high up it can go from ~1400c to -30C and it will overstress itself and shatter.
    Some parts will still stick and stay inside in the pits especially

  • @brylozketrzyn
    @brylozketrzyn Рік тому +88

    Incredible story. They have faced what would have seem impossible. If there was cockpit WTF per minute indicator it would have broken its needle. Yet, they properly identified cause and managed to find a proper way to escape the danger. Outstanding

    • @candydandy2694
      @candydandy2694 Рік тому +16

      Honestly, there a so many gauges in a cockpit already, but a WTFs per minute indicator would be an hilarious addition! 😅

    • @tylern6420
      @tylern6420 11 місяців тому +2

      a wtf value like its omori or something?

    • @seanpadgett3053
      @seanpadgett3053 5 місяців тому

      They’re British, all in a days work, and I bet they had the tea all organised before they landed as well. All very British 😅

  • @PerfectedEvil
    @PerfectedEvil 2 роки тому +361

    I was told by the guy who did my flight training that aviation is a matter of learned skill, some talent, and an excruciating attention to detail. He also told me takeoffs are optional, landings are not.

    • @TheSilmarillian
      @TheSilmarillian 2 роки тому +14

      Hello from Australia my first flight instructor many years ogo said the same

    • @bruce6614
      @bruce6614 2 роки тому +22

      Mine told me that you can never get lost in an airplane because eventually you'll find the ground

    • @TheSilmarillian
      @TheSilmarillian 2 роки тому +5

      @@bruce6614 Nice one

    • @Gary-ld6ht
      @Gary-ld6ht 2 роки тому +10

      @@gruntopolouski5919 That is exactly what Lost Angel said...read it again.

    • @hb1338
      @hb1338 2 роки тому +1

      @@bruce6614 Nonsense. You are lost if you do not know which piece of ground you are about to crash into or land on.

  • @iader1
    @iader1 2 роки тому +157

    Initially thought 40 mins were a lot of time. Have to admit when the story is good, time flies! Great video, great animations, and the level of detail on the comments, both from you and the captain were just great. Keep up the good work

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +13

      Thank you!

    • @captaincyrilbiz
      @captaincyrilbiz 2 роки тому +2

      The animations are from a 747-400. The aircraft involved was a 747-236 which had round analogue flight instruments. Also, the stairs to the upper deck was spiral. The animation is a straight stairs from the -400.
      The story is told accurately however.

    • @reynaldomartinez7978
      @reynaldomartinez7978 2 роки тому +2

      Your so very right. I’d not even noticed that forty minutes had gone by since this tale began on screen. I was galvanized to the show. Whew 😅

    • @rouser301
      @rouser301 2 роки тому

      Too bad the computer illustration isn't a 747-200 as the "expert" claims the actual jet was. The 200 only has 10 windows on the upper deck and the hump is half as short. The aircraft shown in the video is a 400 or later with different avionics, engines and systems (not to mention not requiring a flight engineer.) Google an image of a 200 and you'll see I'm right.

    • @hellonomasonto
      @hellonomasonto 2 роки тому +2

      @@rouser301 Ok genius 🙄

  • @disqusmacabre6246
    @disqusmacabre6246 Рік тому +30

    That was a story that deserved to be told. What a fantastic crew.

  • @artswri
    @artswri Рік тому +163

    The production values on this video are stellar quality!! Animations are beautifully designed and executed. Script is excellent, very clear and comprehensive, and so well delivered. Thanks for this wonderful video and your others as well!

    • @austindarrenor
      @austindarrenor Рік тому

      I wonder if Mentour Pilot does a video of JAL 747 cargo flt 1628 over Alaska. Instead of volcanic ash it was you know what. Anchorage ATC showed nothing on their radar but NORAD ROCC did and had the 747 do a 360° turn to try to shake the "folks" tailing them 😆

    • @drmayeda1930
      @drmayeda1930 Рік тому

      @@austindarrenor
      I don't think the NORAD computers had a glitch, either that or an illegal drone. I doubt if ball lightning is visible on radar.

    • @austindarrenor
      @austindarrenor Рік тому

      @@drmayeda1930 According to the pilot of the JAL 747 cargo jet whatever NORAD picked up was twice the size of an aircraft carrier. And this managed to elude Anchorage radar. I wish that NATO would get ahold of ET technology then Putin and Xi Jinping would be licking their boots.

  • @william2k
    @william2k 2 роки тому +59

    really cool getting a first-hand account. I mean final reports are good but first-hand account is so much more

  • @pieseldatches
    @pieseldatches Місяць тому +28

    RIP Captain Moody. 🙏 😢❤ Thank you for your heroic service.

  • @BigTylt
    @BigTylt 2 роки тому +40

    Props to Captain Moody for one of the most legendary and professional passenger briefings ever

  • @georgemallory797
    @georgemallory797 Рік тому +95

    We covered this in my days in a university flight program but never to this degree. Truly a remarkable piece of aviation history. You, sir, are a pleasure to listen to. Fantastic description whether the audience are laymen or seasoned aviators. Top job.

  • @chass1771
    @chass1771 Рік тому +50

    I would suggest that this incident is a exemplar of superb CRM. The actions of the crew represent the very best of aviation skills.
    It is also a tribute to the amazing engineering of Rolls-Royce.
    Eric Moody's PA to the passengers is arguably the greatest example of British understatement in history.
    Aviate-navigate-communicate. This flight did it in spades!

  • @adamfrazer5150
    @adamfrazer5150 2 роки тому +41

    I started the week with no earthly idea about Mentour........and I'm ending it as a full, blown, addict !
    Many thanks for all your insight and efforts 👍

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +3

      Welcome to the crew Adam!

    • @adamfrazer5150
      @adamfrazer5150 2 роки тому +3

      @@MentourPilot Many thanks, I will never wash this part of my screen again 😎 All kidding aside, I've never found it easier to discover the answers to aviation topics or to be entertained and informed in equal parts.
      If you ever branch out into life-coaching, I'll be the first in line - you've a way of engaging your audience that I find extremely effective. 👍

  • @JPCardington
    @JPCardington 2 роки тому +17

    From reading about this many years ago, I remember that one of the stewardesses said to some of the passengers ‘if we don’t get the engines started we’ll be up here all night…’

  • @houdarar2765
    @houdarar2765 Рік тому +13

    As geology student and aviation enthusiast this is such an amazing story

  • @Th3OneWhoWaits
    @Th3OneWhoWaits 10 днів тому +1

    R.I.P Captain Eric Moody, a true airman and hero.

  • @frglee
    @frglee 2 роки тому +183

    Good account of what could have been an appalling disaster. These guys were absolute heroes. Staying calm, trying to find out what the problem was and doing their very best to land the plane safely. You could never train for every eventuality so a lot of discussion with the cabin crew, intelligent guesswork and gentle experimentation must have gone on as they did not understand the cause at the time. Real focused teamwork in quite a short time. Trying again and again to get the engines going and finally succeeding must have been incredible! Nice to see Captain Moody describe the events, too. He of the massive British understatement! That really made it for me.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +33

      Absolutely! He is a gentleman

    • @andrewnorris5415
      @andrewnorris5415 2 роки тому +5

      @@MentourPilot A knighthood surely.

    • @Barflax
      @Barflax 2 роки тому +3

      Well they are British, stiff upper lips and all that...

    • @GeordieGroundwater
      @GeordieGroundwater 2 роки тому +4

      @@andrewnorris5415 You are right. But he didn't, right? How can you do your job better than this and not get a knighthood? Ridiculous.

    • @Anonymous-wq1rf
      @Anonymous-wq1rf 2 роки тому +7

      99.9% of pilots are not suicidal and 99.9% of the remainder would never consider taking their passengers with them. The average person is likely to panic in a life threatening situation but this well trained and experienced flight crew calmly took a few seconds to asses their position. At 37,000 feet they could glide for perhaps sixty nautical miles!
      No passenger on this flight could have been unaware that all four engines had stopped. No point in Captain Moody lying to the passengers. His understatement of the problem and reassurance to the passengers that they hoped to restart the engines was perfect.

  • @richardthorn7999
    @richardthorn7999 2 роки тому +162

    I worked for R-R at the time of this incident, and had the great pleasure of hearing Captain Moody talk about it in a meeting at Farnborough. He was the epitome of a laid-back unflappable pilot, with a great sense of humour. I recall his pride in being the only captain to have five engines fail on a four engined aircraft!

    • @thomasfink2385
      @thomasfink2385 2 роки тому +6

      five engine fails

    • @ginetterondeau1569
      @ginetterondeau1569 2 роки тому

      U forget about cpt Piché of Air Transat?

    • @eland65
      @eland65 2 роки тому +2

      5 engines fail also correct

    • @thomasfink2385
      @thomasfink2385 2 роки тому +1

      @@eland65 No, the "s" is required by grammar. This is because there are only four engines that can fail. If on fails two times there are still only four engines.

    • @eland65
      @eland65 2 роки тому

      @@thomasfink2385 yes, his last paragraph has context
      Yours, "if on fails...", hasn't

  • @RobBulmahn
    @RobBulmahn Рік тому +20

    I'd say they were really effective at communicating the signs and dangers of ash clouds, because "volcanic ash" was the first thing that popped into my head watching this video, without even being familiar with the name/location of this incident.
    This is actually one of the strangely comforting thoughts I have about flying: even if the flight gets in a horrific incident, there's a very good chance that authorities will be able to learn from it and make everyone safer in the future.

  • @andreaskahr2583
    @andreaskahr2583 Місяць тому +2

    RIP Captain Eric Moody…thank you for your outstanding service and pilot skills

  • @sarahdlp524
    @sarahdlp524 2 роки тому +448

    Confession, British Airways is my airline of choice.
    BA57 taking off from Johannesburg (283 souls) was only saved because the co pilot flew aerobatics. He put the near-stalled plane that was only 56 feet up into a dive and levelled out just above the ground. Absolute hero. Also the BA pilot who fought off an intruder on a flight to Nairobi whilst the plane went into a steep dive. "In the struggle the auto-pilot became disengaged and the jumbo was knocked off course, diving violently and plunging thousands of feet." Then he said "This is the Captain speaking. A very nasty man has just tried to kill us all" . British understatement!

    • @christopherbedford9897
      @christopherbedford9897 2 роки тому +32

      I think a little more detail is required here - your story raises many questions. Also at least one correction, because there's no way to put a stalled airliner into a "dive" at 56 ft. - that's only a little over the height of the aircraft itself, certainly not enough altitude to dive and then level out and then land. It would take more than 56 ft of falling just to get level again. And having done so, the runway would be miles behind by that stage. And how did it get into a stall on takeoff in the first place?
      Very confusing story and I can't find any references to the incident in any media on line. When did this allegedly take place?
      Edit: Found a reference to a Daily Mail [barf, barf] article in 2010 which appears to have been taken down so no details available. Grateful if you can post somewhere with clarifications - tks

    • @sarahdlp524
      @sarahdlp524 2 роки тому +17

      @@christopherbedford9897 pulled up out of a dive just above the rooftops over Jet Park. A BA pilot went through it with me, not just reported in The Bible!

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 2 роки тому +57

      @@christopherbedford9897 this pilot was a friend of mine. Stall warning, stick shake just after take off. Because the slats had retracted. He flew barely above the ground for several minutes nursing the aircraft up off the drag curve so they could accelerate gradually and eventually climb away. A knife edge piece of flying. Boeing test pilots tried it in the simulator and weren’t able to keep it airborne. Great job Jimmy B.

    • @ANITIX87
      @ANITIX87 2 роки тому +2

      @@peteconrad2077 Well, that definitely didn't happen.

    • @peteconrad2077
      @peteconrad2077 2 роки тому +38

      @@ANITIX87 it’s a matter of public record and was the subject of an investigation by the AAIB. Since there are two people here talking about the incident I’d suggest checking your facts before making a fool of yourself.

  • @grice2647
    @grice2647 2 роки тому +384

    53 dislikes- how could anyone dislike this if you are even a bit interested in aviation. This one of the best aviation documentaries I have ever seen. As an ex glider pilot, I can see how captain Moody's glider experience may have saved the day here. Just like riding a motorcycle makes you a better driver, glider experience makes you a far better power pilot. In a glider you only get one chance to land on each flight- no go arounds!

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +58

      Glad to hear that you liked it!

    • @newspeedman
      @newspeedman 2 роки тому +17

      When you rewind ⏪ on some devices you can hit accidentally dislike button - no drama. I like the video

    • @francopetre6171
      @francopetre6171 2 роки тому +39

      One is from the retired BOAC captain in first class thinking it wasn't that big a deal 😆

    • @tomaszfaszcza852
      @tomaszfaszcza852 2 роки тому +6

      I personally dislike every video that has the sponsor sh*. I hate the youtube’s own commercials just enough. It boils my blood having to watch that as well.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +177

      @@tomaszfaszcza852 hi! I find that fascinating.
      Why would you be so enraged by creators being paid for their work? Would you prefer paying money out of your own pocket for the content or do you think people should simply be working for free?
      My UA-cam channel currently employs 3 full time people including myself. I would never be able to find/research/film/edit and create graphics for a release every week if it wasn’t for my sponsors, Patreons and Adsense.
      That might be worth considering.
      Have a great evening.

  • @neelimay1
    @neelimay1 Рік тому +10

    I've watched so many of these videos in this channels and it becomes very clear how a pilot responds in emergencies makes all the difference and very rarely is it the aircraft alone that is the issue. A calmer well trained pilot makes less mistake and a lesser pilot turns into a rouge causing the loss of lives.

  • @markcampbell369
    @markcampbell369 Рік тому +64

    We live in Cuenca, Ecuador (CUE) and Ecuador is always dealing with volcanic eruptions affecting aviation. Several of our trips have been delayed as a result. As I KEEP ON telling everyone: “It beats the alternative! I can wait!”

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 Рік тому

      hmmm some regions have trains as an alternate, does Ecuador?

    • @mawmawvee
      @mawmawvee Рік тому

      Amen to that, markcampbell369!!!

    • @raerohan4241
      @raerohan4241 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@marhawkman303 They probably do. They most likely have ferries as well, since it's a coastal country

    • @0Clewi0
      @0Clewi0 6 місяців тому

      @@raerohan4241 And you also have the andes so it's probably a limited network

    • @lizg.8626
      @lizg.8626 18 днів тому

      I lived in Cuenca, Ecuador, six months 20 years ago! I went for a three week Spanish study program and decided to stay because it was so beautiful. I love the way. Spanish is spoken there, like people are singing a song. You are so fortunate to live there! 😍I went to Baños while I was there and the town underneath it was on an “orange alert” due to the volcano activity. orange alert meant you probably should not enter the city and some people were leaving. However, as a youngster, I figured “at least it isn’t Red”. 😂😮As a 20 something year-old, I didn’t feel it was that dangerous for some reason and I excitedly entered the city. One night after some beers, we all decided to lay around a playground as the ashes from the volcano fell onto our faces and eyelashes. It was such a beautiful experience. Ah. To be young and blissfully, unaware of danger.😊❤

  • @michaelalexander2306
    @michaelalexander2306 2 роки тому +94

    I heard this story first-hand from Capt. Moody at Boscombe Down some years ago. I also remember seeing the aircraft, at Bournemouth I think, after its retirement. I remember Eric Moody saying one of the ground engineers said to him that he wished they hadn't re-started the engines, so they could have been examined more closely! Capt. Moody, being the gentleman he is, did not relate his reply! He also keeps in touch with the crew and passengers on that flight through a group he founded called the Galunggung Gliding Club.

    • @casssmith2610
      @casssmith2610 2 роки тому +1

      I love your comment. And that all these years later, they’re close!!

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 2 роки тому

      I mean... I know what the engineer wanted to know though. He wanted to see what it looked like having an engine full of volcanic ash. :D For... research purposes of course. I suppose it would make it somewhat easier to figure out why the engines seized up.

  • @167curly
    @167curly 2 роки тому +33

    Captain Moody and his cockpit crew were really fine examples of BA's high quality training and calmness in a high drama situation. Many congratulations to them.

    • @ianwilkinson4602
      @ianwilkinson4602 2 роки тому +6

      If ever you needed a reason to fly British Airways this is it. :-)

  • @markh3055
    @markh3055 Рік тому +13

    I don't know the first thing about flying any plane, but this crew are true heroes. Captain Moody is the best example of how important it is to keep your cool in an emergency situation. Also the presentation of this story is first class!

  • @HurricaneJD
    @HurricaneJD 2 роки тому +46

    This incident when watching air crash investigation is one that stands out to me. These pilots are who I would want to pilot my plane if I had a choice. They were under some of the most difficult and stressful situation you can be in as a pilot and they made it all happen. Which is phenomenal as a pilot

  • @rutherd9616
    @rutherd9616 2 роки тому +126

    The action of the ash/silicates on the engines are so clearly described (you're a master). Your description of this incident is so compelling.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +11

      Thank you!

    • @brianwest2775
      @brianwest2775 2 роки тому +2

      @@MentourPilot Why was this not a known problem before 1982? Bigger fans concentrating more particles? Hotter engines? More refined and thus less robust engines? Flying higher altitudes? Or simple chance? More flights so more likely hood of flying through an ash cloud. I assume that volcanic activity hasn't increased. Flight routes probably not a big factor.

    • @brianwest2775
      @brianwest2775 2 роки тому +3

      I was surprised that they were able to quickly fly it home. I assume any engine overhaul would be more than three days, and unlikely to change all four. Despite the long list of potential damage perhaps the cooled glass all broke off the engine and little critical damage.

    • @allangibson2408
      @allangibson2408 2 роки тому +1

      @@brianwest2775 Actually volcanic activity was at a historic low in the mid 20th Century… Changing flight routes had an impact too.

    • @allangibson2408
      @allangibson2408 2 роки тому +2

      @@brianwest2775 Qantas had serious engineering support available out of Sydney and Singapore Airlines have similar support available out of Singapore. Either can replace a full set of engines on a 747 overnight from spares in stock. Getting the mechanics to the plane and the ash out of the air system would be the time consuming part.
      KLM 864 had exactly the same thing happen in 1989 over Alaska.

  • @spencereagle1118
    @spencereagle1118 2 роки тому +22

    I read a very interesting book about this, it was called 'The Jakarta Incident'. The book covers many of the passenger accounts of being on the plane, but one really stuck out. During the several minutes the plane was gliding and the crew were trying to start the engines, a woman seated near the one of the windows kept saying she'd seen someone working on an engine, out on the wing. She even described the person as wearing overalls with 'Boeing' on the back. The other passengers and crew all put it all down to hysteria as a result of their predicament. Curiously, when that first lone engine fired up, literally allowing the other engines to start and so saving the plane, it happened to be the engine where the woman claimed she had seen the man. Some years after the incident it was discovered that a technician at Boeing's Seattle plant had died in an accident during the assembly of Speed Bird 9's airframe.

  • @PB-sk9jn
    @PB-sk9jn 7 місяців тому +5

    Amazing to do a personal interview of Captain Moody.
    Somehow this is incredibly valuable -- first hand unique account.
    It adds to poring over accident reports and is so valuable.

  • @jeremynjoo4309
    @jeremynjoo4309 Рік тому +3

    The first officer saying "We're back in business has me LOL (Laughing Out Loud)

  • @aelei
    @aelei 2 роки тому +122

    This is my FAVOURITE aviation incident !! It's such an interesting story, and we learnt so much from this flight. I was waiting for the day you would make an episode on flight 009 because I love how much your perspective adds to the story.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +20

      Glad you think so!

    • @oliverlane4050
      @oliverlane4050 2 роки тому +8

      Mine too, I also recently found out that I flew on this aircraft (G-BDXH) to Los Angeles years later 🤔😊

    • @NarnianLady
      @NarnianLady 2 роки тому +2

      This actually was the incident that got me interested in aviation..! Back in 2011, there was the Icelandic volcano eription and many flights were canceled. That is when I heard of this event, and I am hooked on air crash investigation now...

    • @user-xm1od9nb1m
      @user-xm1od9nb1m 2 роки тому

      @@NarnianLady cool, I never knew volcano ash could do that much damage to the engines and never really understod why they cancelled the flights before this video 👍🏼

  • @MrKobs
    @MrKobs 2 роки тому +102

    This is definitely one of the most thrilling aviation stories that I’ve ever heard and for sure one of the best videos you’ve made. Thank you, Petter!

  • @originaljazzgirl
    @originaljazzgirl 11 місяців тому +16

    This story is beyond belief! What a tremendous job the flight crew did and kudos to you Petter for going through the steps to get that interview with the captain! As always, you are one master storyteller. I'm am working on getting all my friends and associates hooked on your channel :-). This is one video I am going to share with them to get them hooked.

  • @sipos0
    @sipos0 Рік тому +12

    What heroic flying. Hats off to the crew, especially the captain.

  • @tunkua
    @tunkua 2 роки тому +195

    I remember this incident well and I have always had the highest admiration and respect for British Airways pilots for their unflappability in impossible situations. A great airline that I first traveled in as a 20 year old from Kuala Lumpur to London on the BOAC Argonaut in 1954, and much later on the Concorde . A classy airline.

    • @davidcrick1123
      @davidcrick1123 2 роки тому +8

      Damn you beat me. My first flight was BOAC London to Shannon in a Britannia.

  • @sebastianschon3141
    @sebastianschon3141 2 роки тому +93

    Most impressive is that Cpt. Moody did all this while still having the need to take a piss.

    • @MentourPilot
      @MentourPilot  2 роки тому +17

      😂 True

    • @chatteyj
      @chatteyj 2 роки тому

      Don't they reckon you think better when you need to drain the python? Needing a piss might have helped in the situation with him making better decisions..

    • @jims4183
      @jims4183 2 роки тому +2

      If I was in Capt. Moody's shoes, I would have pissed in my pants!

  • @Mark-hb9xy
    @Mark-hb9xy 5 місяців тому +4

    British Airways seem to have some incredibly amazing pilots and cabin crew who are so good in an emergency that they avert a disaster when others might not . As well as this famous, case I am also referencing the 2008 case when a plane lost power to both engines at a most critical time when flying over London on the direct approach the Heathrow. The pilot and the crew managed to just get over the airport fence before crash landing. The plane was a write off but not a single life was lost. The consequences of not having the sheer calmness, experience and quick thinking which ensured the plane travelled as absolutely as far as possible before clearing the perimeter of the airport are too awful to contemplate

  • @learntoflymelbourne
    @learntoflymelbourne Місяць тому +3

    Rest in peace Captain Moody. This brave soul passed away today.

  • @minnie1327
    @minnie1327 2 роки тому +23

    Fantastic! Had the honor of Captain Moody flying a BA flight I was on many yrs ago from Heathrow. Still chuckling at "negotiating my way up a badgers arse" quote. Amazing team work.

  • @uarhodesian
    @uarhodesian 2 роки тому +246

    "We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped" This captain calm as a clam=)

    • @cosmicrider5898
      @cosmicrider5898 2 роки тому +13

      "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.
      "
      Kay-MIB

    • @bobl78
      @bobl78 2 роки тому +8

      could be worse... coffee maker broken

    • @fahrimertdincer8421
      @fahrimertdincer8421 2 роки тому +2

      They brithis so its spose to this it culd worse tea pod get broken XD
      Yea you are right just handeling with out of cafein but at least his blader probbly became more relax at least

    • @robertcramer2945
      @robertcramer2945 2 роки тому +2

      @@bobl78 Don't Panic
      Okay, Panic

    • @johnbrazier6503
      @johnbrazier6503 2 роки тому +3

      @@cosmicrider5898 what evidence do you have that everyone thought the earth was flat 500 years ago?

  • @bulletsforteeth5029
    @bulletsforteeth5029 Рік тому +4

    Wow... Captain Moody and crew are virtual bad asses!
    Any pilot that lands safely is a hero in my book.

  • @warriorprincessharmony
    @warriorprincessharmony Рік тому +1

    That Captain is a real Briton. Cool, calm, collected.

  • @francis2811
    @francis2811 2 роки тому +35

    We met Captain Moody years ago, and none of us knew about his part in this fight! He's very discreet about it!

  • @daltonmojica
    @daltonmojica 2 роки тому +78

    British Airways 009 was one of the first aviation incidents that really made a mark on me. The whole concept of that fateful flight, from the mystery of the situation, to the crew pulling through against all odds, and the unique aftermath of the situation simply makes this one of the most impactful aviation incidents for me.
    I actually live in close vicinity to Taal Volcano in the Philippines, which has since started erupting again. Whenever PHIVOLCS, our volcanology authority releases a notice for aircraft to avoid the airspace around the volcano, I think about that Speedbird 747 who lost all four engines in the midst of a brilliant show of light.

    • @rodbutler8069
      @rodbutler8069 2 роки тому

      Another 747 victory over a potentially catastrophic event.

    • @chatteyj
      @chatteyj 2 роки тому +6

      Another airline might have crashed but British airways never crash, even if the pilot is sucked out the window normal service continues and everyone touches down safely.

  • @Techrevopk
    @Techrevopk 13 днів тому

    back in mid 90s reading about this in a book translated into my own language in Pakistan; never thought i would see a documentary on it and actually see the brave Captain. Thank you for making this.

  • @michaela3652
    @michaela3652 Рік тому +40

    Something similar was done by the pilots of the Tupolev 154M who landed a plane with three failed engines in Taiga on an abandoned runway in September 2010. Thanks for your work

    • @rebeccakoomans
      @rebeccakoomans Рік тому +4

      Tupolevs don't NEED help from Volcanic ASH to prang, though... LOL!

    • @seanpadgett3053
      @seanpadgett3053 5 місяців тому

      @@rebeccakoomansAmen to that, I hated flying on those “things”. An airliner with a glass nose, looked like a bomber flying passengers!!!!!!!

    • @BingoFrogstrangler
      @BingoFrogstrangler 2 місяці тому

      Well of course the Russian’s had already done it.😂

  • @Reman1975
    @Reman1975 2 роки тому +27

    Brilliant. Well scripted, well presented, and getting hold of/interviewing the planes captain was an amazing touch. If there was an Oscars style award for UA-cam content creators, this video would at bare minimum be on the nominations list.

  • @parish2091
    @parish2091 2 роки тому +26

    Great video. I worked for BA for 40 years and the 'big incidents' are imprinted in my memory, including this one. Capt Moody and his crew were rightly acclaimed as heroes.

  • @reduggan
    @reduggan Рік тому +14

    This story is riveting and filled with interesting details from St. Elmo's Fire to sandblasting and molten silica coating the engines blades.
    The pilot and crew were amazingly rational and focused in their approach to solving the problems, which they heroically did.
    Thank you, I like happy endings!

  • @ULTTV424
    @ULTTV424 5 місяців тому +1

    respect to all pilots that guided the aircraft to safety and saved all the passengers RESPECT

  • @beckiehubley5798
    @beckiehubley5798 2 роки тому +29

    I just discovered this channel today. My dad was obsessed with airplanes. I grew up hearing my dad read stories of airplane crashes. So many of these I heard as a child...interesting hearing more about them. I read the book "All Four Engines Have Failed" as a preteen or teen. And "The Ghost of Flight 401". And many books of various crash stories.
    I really wish I could share this video with my dad...he'd have loved it. Especially the interview clips. Sadly, my dad passed away 5.5 years ago.

    • @cassia1797
      @cassia1797 Рік тому +5

      So sorry about his passing, Beckie. You’re keeping his memory alive and celebrating his life by continuing to enjoy his passions.

    • @favJ-qq2ef
      @favJ-qq2ef Рік тому +2

      flight 401 is my favorite, just goes to show how little of a imperfection it requires for these disasters to happen, my condolences🙌

  • @iammrvain
    @iammrvain 2 роки тому +33

    What a treat to see that you interviewed Captain Moody for this. Thanks for the great Content!

  • @andrzejkarbowski1877
    @andrzejkarbowski1877 Рік тому +7

    This was breathtaking. I can't believe this film lasts 45 minutes. This is by far the best description of the root causes that had led to this disaster I have ever seen. Thank you.

    • @mawmawvee
      @mawmawvee Рік тому +2

      It was not a disaster, but it surely could have been.