TRASHED 1970s Dimarzio Pickup - Can it be REPAIRED?
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- Опубліковано 4 бер 2024
- In this video we'll attempt to repair this trashed vintage USA-Made 1978-1982 Dimarzio K10 pickup. The K10 was included on some Hondo guitars built in the Samick factory starting in 1978. This is an older style with 3-conductors and no adjustable pole pieces and clipped leg edges. One of the coils is obviously thrashed. It'll take some delicate surgery to fix it...that is if it's even possible.
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I don't have your knowledge but I have this same...I don't know what it is called. I've heard so many times _"Just throw that thing away and buy a new one!"_ and I just can't understand how people give up so easily and throw things away instead of trying to fix them! It's not being cheap, it's about taking something that most people consider broken and trash, to save it and then being proud, knowing that you gave it a second life! Sometimes it's frustrating but when you're able to fix it, it's so satisfying, isn't it?
Your average person knows nothing about guitar pickups, especially the complex humbuckers. They don't know how to wire the two coils to "buck the hum." Magnet wire is thinner than your hair, we'll talking around .00255" thickness. It breaks super easy. Its beyond your average guitar player. Alot of dead buckers have the inside start solder joint dead from the coil lead being pulled by fools taking them apart and jerking that wire, or simply a bad solder joint. You can't fix that, it has to be rewound, and all humbuckers were wound on auto-winding machines that wind mechanically identical windings with zero randomness. Then there's the polarity of the magnet and the coils both, easy to mess that up too....
What I do when repairing pickups with broken windings, is use a small artist brush with some mineral sprits to remove the adhesive residue from the old tape that is on the coil. That makes it makes it much easier to find the broken coil wires, plus I use a small brush to brush the coil to find both broken ends. I've repaired piles of pickups that way.
Nice method 👌👍
I like people who are detirmined to fix things ..my brother and sister love vintage everything ..and fix everything ..
Great stuff Brad ..
From Australia
I sliced thru a Super Distortion coil once so I unwound the damaged layers so afterwards the coil read about half what it did before, and then I reconnected and reassembled it & installed the pickup - it sounds GREAT! Just as powerful but a bit brighter, still using it today!
I was going to say a late 70s PAF.
I had 1 PAF and a 79 Super D I sent out for repair to a pick up maker and then he vanished off the face of the earth and I never saw them again. Both pick ups were double creme and pretty rare.
The Super D had the allen head slugs.
Yes steel spacer.
The older PAFs were about 7k give or take. The newer ones are 8.3 k.
I love mismatched coils because they work well with a single coil pick up in the neck and the overtones can be very nice. I have an old WCR mismatched humbucker and it sounds incredibly good.
Generally old DiMarzios the black lead is the hot lead.
Sadlly there have been several "pickup winders" out there who have stolen thousands of dollars from guitar players for work they never received. It doesn't surprise me he stole your original PAF, but likely wouldn't know how to repair it anyway. The world of pickup winders is dark with bad apples, and incompetents, that have made the entire genre a bad reputation, which is really deserves. I often get guys tell me they bought from just about everyone out there and they all sounded identical. The reason is they are using quick-made-kit parts that come from Asia. They are simply winding and assembling an offshore design, that no matter what magnet or wire you use is going to sound exactly like how the designer made those parts. The customer loses often and there's no way to tell what you're getting. There's no oversight authority to protect the customer. Kit humbuckers are bland sounding design, have zero resemblance to any vintage PAF. I wound. one of those kits something like 18 years ago. I thought it sounded great. But then it never sounded even slightly close to vintage PAF's, and THAT is what set me on my long journey. Long, complex, frustrating as hell, a zillion dead-ends; ended up having to machine and make everything myself and still do.
OG PAFs were asymmetrical anyway. That’s what gives them character. Great video Brad.
Nope. Both sides were wound 5,000 winds, its the official RECIPE. The difference is the two bobbins are not identical. They are two different molds. This is something the "winder" guys never figured out. I worked on vintage PAF's for 20+ years to reverse engineer everything about them. Just about everything you read about them is all wrong, and there are scores of BS myths about them going way back and new ones invented by hypester intellecutally challenged scammers. I've restored and dissected them from every single year they were made, and they are full of "secrets" the "booteek" guys never figured out. It involved the metallurgy, the physical parts specs, and the vintage magnet wire and alot more. I had mentors in the steel industry (a Senior Ferro-magnetics Alloys engineer, who helped me for 6 years, working with every guitar pickup Gibson made, (except the awful Lawrence models), going back from 1937-1977. Basically it was the entire history of steel making during those years, when big changes did bad things to the PAF era humbuckers that ended their reign. For the vintage magnet wire I worked with Elektrisola and sent them wire samples from vintage P90's and PAF's, both using the identical wire. There is no modern equivalent modern wire that can do what the old wire did, being that they were made of impure copper and organic insulation recipes that used Beneze and probably worse. Benzene was outlawed by the EPA for magnet wire manufacturing around 2004 or so, and ALL the magnet wire companies quit making plain enamel wire. It was a huge shock to me and I bought up as much left over stock as I could find. Visit my channel if you want to hear my replica works and hear many many original vintage PAF's from different years, and direct comparisons of vintage vs. my replica work and a LOT of debunking videos to counter the masses of disinformation and just plain wrong ideas and advertising hype. I've got over 150 videos going back to when UA-cam was new. Enjoy......Dave Stephens Stephens Design Pickups
This video will surely pickup my mood after 9 hours of prep cooking this morning. Thanks a bundle, Guitologist Brad.
Brad, I've had to dig in and repair several pickups in this very manner, salute to you, you knocked it out the park as always brother!
When you repair things, you really learn how they work! Admire the effort.
Hello Brad. I have that exact same pick up. Dimarzio Made in USA. I bought it from my friend in the early 80’s for 15 bucks. I have a cheap Fender Squire Strat that a friend gave me. It was in his garage for years and accumulated layers of dust. I cleaned it and did a full set up, including the intonation. To my surprise, the guitar routing was made to take a single coil or a humbucker in the bridge position, so I installed the Dimarzio in the bridge position. I did take a resistance reading of the pickup after I wired it correctly. It was 8.42k Ohms. It sounds really good now. Beefed it up. Congrats on a successful pickup repair. 🎸👍
Congratulations Brad. I've just had to do that on a guitar with a very distinctive pickup that could not be replaced easily. I managed it, but not after a terrible mishap where I tried to ease out a bit more wire. The wire was from the inside of the coil and snapped leaving me only a quarter of an inch! I soldered a new piece on, reassembled, and left well alone!
Thanks
Brad you are a man of many talents, my hand is not that steady. Excellent video👍
Nice one Brad, your patience is excellent, I'd have scopped that in the first 2 mins and cried like a biatch.
Man! I learn a lot from your videos!
Let 'Scar My Guitar' rewind it! They could make a video of it.
Damn!! I was waiting for the end jam session…. Great vid!
Thanks for the video. I have a Duncan JB with a bad north coil that I've wanted to try to repair. I appreciate it.
I have an exact same d m pup, also only reading one side. Think i may try this fix. Thanks Brad
Thanks!
Thais the Dimarzio k-10 the first US pickup made specifically for Korea/Japan import market. I have them in my late 70s Hondo 2 LP, they sound really good especially for 70s rock sounds. It’s basically a sd-2 with fixed pole pieces. Ps thanks for the great content, I enjoy your show.
I have a late 70ies Mighty Mite bucker that is built the same way, only it reads a hot 14k!
Not often you see a loose wire in a broken coil and still get 75% of the resistance out of it.
Amazing salvation, Brad! I admire your patience bro.
I’m sure this will sound great in any vintage beat up strat, in a slanted position as EVH used to. Or to beaf up an Explorer or Flying V!
Seems identical to the DiMarzio neck pup in my 1985 bcrich . Only exception its still undamaged. I love the way it sounds. I remember trying to solder and repair some other pups .I couldn't resist , now I can resist because it is too "maddening" for me. Soldering hair lol
Damn I was so excited to hear it
So rad!
You remind me of my dad. He could fix anything
Nice video Brad. Another old DiMarzio avoids the scrap heap! But I feel sad I didn't get to hear this old school PAF clone in action!
Good video, Thank you !
Good job! I have an old T-top pup laying around that has a very short lead. I've thought about replacing the lead, but don't want to ruin a working pup. I may give it a go one day.
I remember being taught to heat the wire up then use very fine sandpaper to get down to the bare wire.
So i was thinking either maybe the resistance on that second coil may be purposely different .
Or if they are supposed to be the same then maybe your test lead's are not getting a good connection ?
Don't see how the coil could be burnt like an electric motor coil ?
Maybe corrosion?
Keep up the fun , good work !
You have more patience than I do. I used to sell that magnet wire and it looks like it is at most 30 awg or smaller. I like Dimarzio pickups for my strat knock-offs but don't have any real old ones.
42awg
MUCH smaller. 30 AWG is like thick rope for magnet wire. 42AWG is what is mostly used, we're talking .00255" +/-
It's always worth it to fix vintage pups!
Makes me wonder if the pick up I installed does not work because the lead may have been broken but I hope I just wired it wrong? I need to work on it. You are inspirering.
Hondo II POWERED BY DIMARZIO
been a while since I have seen a hondo. Do they still make those?
Looks like a Dimarzio K10 Super 2... Hondo featured them in their top tier models
That double slug Dimarzio was an OEM for Hondo Guitars. The Dimarzio OEMs were good pickups. I would test both coils and if only one was good I would see if there's another pickup with a dead coil I could make a hybrid with. Hybrids with mismatched coils can sound very cool.
They are called K-10 have them in my '78 Hondo Les Paul II easy to identify by the "Snipped" mounting brackets.
@@joeyw30 - I have one of the Dimarzio OEM SDS-1 with a brass baseplate. It's a great pickup.
Can't wait till you tackle that mid 70s T top Gibson humbucker I sent you a few years ago.
didn't he use that in his temu build off strat?
This is a Dimarzio K10, commonly found stock on 80s Hondo guitars etc. the slug pole pieces and baseplate feet shape are a dead giveaway, usually 7.8k to 8.2k. ceramic.
POWERED BY DIMARZIO
Before I watch this tutorial, some advice to the guy in the video from a pro-semipro luthier guitar tech with over 6+ months of online experience:
1. Don’t break the lead wire when handling pickup after repair.
2. Don’t forget to test pickup before tape is reapplied.
3. For best tone quality and volume control, use #6 black electrical tape with naturally homogenized Himalayan mountain spruce resin adhesive.
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Just go to the drug store and buy a roll of the white cloth tape used for banadages, then color in with a sharpy after applied. It is pretty much the same stuff as the black, I have done this on the Dimarzio pups on my guitar. If your neat hard to tell its not orginal.
That was almost excruciating to watch Brad but nonetheless still fascinating. The wires are just so delicate that most folks don't even try this and they send them for a full pro rewire instead. Hat's off to you for having a go and I hope you have a decent pickup-less guitar that might suit it and sound great. That would be an interesting build/refurb don't you think?
All the best
Alex the K from Scotland
Super Distortion is my favorite pickup.
That looks like a later model, I have a set thats earlier. Not bad pickups, but not great, but man oh man, back when those came out some people actually THREW AWAY THEIR VINTAGE PAF'S. PAF's weren't even called PAF's back then, and nobody thought much of them back then.
I always thought that Gibson 490 humbuckers were the ultimate humbuckers. Then I tried a SD JB. My mind was blown. I still dont know how they did it. It definitely sounds better. Maybe the other Gibson humbuckers sound good too.
The guy that fixed your dumpster Paul his wife fixes pickups and builds pickups she could probably help you out😊
She is called Kathy from Scar My Guitar
I was thinking the same thing. Sean and Cathy can wind a new set for him. @scarmypickups
I imagine Brad already knew that since he knows them personally and even shared a vid of her with her new winding machine. Anyway, just cos you can wind a pickup doesn't mean you can repair one. Especially in the way the customer might want it repaired. Just my 2 cents.
@@johnelcanrab2114 If it was re-wound, it wouldn't be a repair. It would be rebuilt. The coil had two breaks in it, and Brad's "mending" process will make it operational, however the two coils will not be matched, or balanced. The only way to fix it right would be to re-wind it to match the original coil's resistance and output.
Kind of very nice PAF Clone.
I do know one thing... Super Distortion by DiMarzio early pick ups have rectangular tabs, and the later/newer ones cut the corners off of that rectangle. However, not as small as the corner cuts shown on the pick up you have.
Hey , my first guitar was a Hondo,that might be my old pickup! What color guitar did it come out of?
What would be the effect of adding a 1k in series to make up for the broken section?
Hey Brad, awesome job if you’re interested in selling that pick up, let me know
Their PAF’s always had adjustable, screw pole pieces on one coil, so it’s not a PAF
Next time just clean the thing with Naphtha. The Naphtha will take off all the old adhesive and not hurt the windings or bobbins
The assometric bumhooker. It never cleans up, always leaves a bit of chunky dirt.
There's coil splitting and coil tapping... tapping gives you roughly half the output... and has that muted sound...
Coil splitting makes a humbuckere a single coil...that bare wire might be a coil tap... it don't connect to the other lead.... it is half + or - of the winding... measure from the black insulated to both the bare leads.
Humbuckers don't truly 'Buck Hum' using common mode rejection and its quite normal for the two coils to messure differently - In the bridge position, the coil furthest from the bridge is usually the treble coil and what is in use when the pickup is tapped.
Oh and Split vs. Tapped - I'm from a hifi valve amp background and have built guitars for 40 years now, NEVER have I heard the term 'Split Coil', its an invention of millennials and lots of hifi output transformers have 42% taps for Class-A, mains Txs have variable voltage taps. You are tapping the coil. Don't believe me? Go look at valve manuals going back 100 years!
Your workbench is anxiety squared for a ocd dude like me, sir. 😂😂.
It's cdo, you can't just throw letters about in random order!!
Holy dung cakes ,that is a tiny ass coil wire to solder onto...is that small variance going to work in it's favor or just muddy everything up...
tell you what i’m pretty sure i have those in my 70s “law suit” era Bentley branded LP custom clone … bolt on neck sort of unfortunately .. I do believe they are original to my guitar
Finicky little things arent they !
Looking forward to hearing this in a guitar, but maybe you're looking to sell it?
A fucking Masterpiece!!! mdr
Dang, I'm early!
What’s so special about a 40 yr old dimarzio. Saw one on marketplace for $250aud
i am not ansking if this is a good idea, its probably not for most. but i have a couple of dead pickups. if i unwind one of these. can i rewind another pickup and use said same wire to wind a new pick up. mostly as an experiment, i have no delusion this is gonna be an amazing pickup in the end, i cant reasonably afford, any wire or equipment at the moment, am in phase where i wanna create a guitar as close to from scratch as possible, from scrap and preferable with raw material, the pick ups and other some other electornics, is what is left as right now.
The tele'ish style short bridge with compensated brass saddles was surprisingly easy to accomplish, with very limited tools, pretty much just a hand saw, handheld electric drill and a vise to bend the copper plate (the bridge plate), with maybe a little bit of luck, i suppose.
Oh yea almost forgot, the tuning machines, are also a pain is the rear. turns out gears are not cheap if you wanna buy in low volumes, the solution for the moment have been to just take the gears from cheap tuners and just make new brackets from sheet metal.
Dimarzio 80’s p.a.f. Should have screw coils on one side, looks more like a dimarzio made pickup for a guitar brand like Kramer, Hamer etc.
sup G?
i think i have about 6 of those
they come out of cheap les paul copies from st louis music and hollow ibanez LP copies .......never sold independently
probly first contract diMarzio ever got
I'm a retired, Expert Electronic Technician. And I can safely say. Looking at these Pickups. They have been largely goofed around with. I mean, this thing looks like, a mess. Namebrand pickup manufacturer? It don't look that way to me? That looked horrendously sloppy. Amateur hour. Teenager repair. Stevie Wunder, repair. I mean really?
I mean how much is here to get right? This is a little simpler than, Building, Manufacturing, assembling, Troubleshooting. Legendary Pro Audio Equipment. And how hard is it to get these, right? How much Jack Daniels does it require? And did you finish, it all? And left none for the rest of us? YOU'RE FIRED!
I mean I had to, actually. Design and build a 24 x 8 x 4 x 2, Custom Audio Console. At 22 years of age. As a high school dropout with a GED. And that's a little bit, slightly more, bigger, complicated. Than, getting some stupid guitar pickups right.
Everybody makes such a big deal about, guitar pickups. They are just all built by a bunch of inconsistent stupid people. So of course each was going to sound different. It's a varying level of incompetence. You can't hear it? Guitars from Taiwan can be just fine. When you learn how to tweak them, properly. As they use these great, mass-produced, Chinese guitar pickups. And they can sound perfectly great! Whereas another one. Can and might sound. Perfectly Repulsive! Git it Outta Here! Ugh! Aargh! Smoke… Good… Fire… AARGH!
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RemyRAD
now you know why the guitar pickup tape wrapping people get paid so mu
that lead might be able to be used fora tap lead? have Cathy at scarred pot it . . . she might even repair for science sake? lol
Wow! Calling this thing a PAF is like calling my Uncle a scientist because he experimented with drugs! Every detail is wrong. Wrong baseplate, wrong bobbins, wrong wire, wrong magnet, wrong string spacing, wrong wire gauge, wrong spacers, slugs are the wrong size........CORRECT braided lead wire... ok not every detail is wrong😂
I'm sure its a great pickup but nothing like a PAF
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Why waste all that time fixing it when you can just buy a new Chinese pickup, made by literal slaves, from Temu for super cheap, Brad?
It's not a SD. I vaguely remember reading in a mag about a new model with dual rods like that. They would also do odd prototypes that came stock on some guitars. Looks 80's. Great find!
I know, it's a K10.
Yes! I can remember that guitar mag article better than I can remember today's date.
ofcourse youtube didnt notified me for this vidjah ......
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