After 34 years of continuous use for both handgun and rifle cartridges, I cracked the frame on my Lee single stage press. Funny because I was sizing 45-70's just like you in this video. (yes, I was using case lube) The good news is that I've been eyeing the MEC for several months and now I have a reason to buy it! Thanks for the great review Mr. Long Colt.
I love this press. I got one at a price table. Awesome press with the floating shell plate. I got the whole set up at the prize table. Mount and all. It rocks.
Thank you very much for this video. Looks like MEC has come out with a very impressive metallic press. I was most impressed with the self centering shell holder. I'll bet the run-out will be great. Looks like I'll be adding a 4th press to my bench.
Great review. I have one and it is works very well. I have been through over 1000 rounds and reloaded from 45 colt to 32 Winchester special. Look forward to your follow up videos.
Well cookie.. I was going to retire My old RCBS Rock Chucker and get one of those for my single stage use press. I'm looking forward to watching your evacuations of it's construction and Quality. Good shooting to you.. Dave.
That's A wonderful looking press Mr Fortune Cookie.... fist thing I noticed was the room! Next,, How sturdy it looks! Looking forward to seeing this thing in progress.. : ) Thanks for Getting it, And sharing!
Hello Fortunecokie 45 and thank you for doing these videos:) Owning both The presses, who do you think have solved the (sound idea) of self alignment best between Forster and MEC? And after a few years of use, which of the two do you prefer to use for what job, and Why? Thank you again :) Claus
m4jedi - Yes, indeed - like our guns, our reloading presses and equipment are transgenerational - spanning, bracketing, and coupling generations...Good reloadin' to ya, FC
nrainfidelforlife - The Lyman Spar T is the progenitor of the Lyman T - Mag of today (and yes, the T Mag does not have that angle)... Good reloadin' to ya, FC
I was looking into this press last week and I was so tempted on buying it, I hope you can upload a video very soon about the run out and how you feel about that long stroke, I also saw a video where you can remove the threading part and change it for a Hornady lock N load conversion kit.
Looks like a very good press. maybe something in my future? I'm just getting started with reloading and am using the Lee 4 turret semi progressive press. seems to me like reloading is becoming more and more popular. thanks for the video.
The MEC press looks to have potential. To add another often overlooked press that produces low run out ammo and self centers, the RCBS Summit press does an excellent job seating and crimping bullets but it best as companion to the Rock Chucker, Lee Classic or similar press.
I'm starting to rationalize by the different systems for floating dies and shell holders that a lot of the reasoning for it has to do more with the alignment of the flash hole to the decapping stem and pins. It actually makes a lot of sense how misalignment causes excess run out and how floating the dies and/or shell holders would help fix this or lock rings with o-rings to some extent. I think this especially is effective when using brass with inconsistently drilled flasholes such as cheap federal AE brass and makes sense why Sinclair expander mandrels usually result in less run out. outside of that though the press looks real solid!
Matt N - And there are so many presses out there for us to use...features and price points...!! These discussions are very welcome to all... Best to ya, FC Steve
FortuneCookie45LC I have greatly enjoyed your vids. I am just now getting into reloading. Single stage only for now. I have an RCBS JR3 (1977 mfg) that has never been used. My dad bought it along with a Rem700 BDL 7mm rem mag. I also have the never touched RCBS dies and the rifle. Would you recommend using this press or should I buy something new like the MEC or the Forster Co-Ax?
hello fc i think the free floating shell holder wil help a bit, but not much if the die is not square and in line, the case will enter central but then it wil bent away,the only way a die would be selfcentering ,was ,if the die would be turnt in a steel bal that can move freely in the top of the press.
Im just getting into reloading as of a week ago, and come to find out, titan reloading LEE factory outlet store is like 45 min south of me and MEC is made/based 45 min west of me here in wisconsin. I lucked out i guess, i can go right to the places lol
91XtremeRT - That's fantastic...You might call before you go though to make sure that the factory outlet prices are at least in line with their dealers. Sometimes, they won't undercut their dealers and that causes the prices to actually be higher at the factories. But if I had the chance to visit their operations, I'd definitely do that...If you make it over to Lee, be sure to say hello to Andy Lee for me...he might not remember me though as I'm sure he has lots of contacts. He head's up the Casting Division of Lee Precision. Have a great day, FC
Prices were good. Went there and got a classic turret kit, bunch of extra shell holders and primer pins, little over 2000 primers and an extra turret and a couple full die sets. All for under 450. Damn good pricing in my opinion. There are a few things i missed but in general, minus bullets and powder, i got everything i need in order to reload 3 different calibers. And it all works really well. And to think i almost bought a dillon 650xl. At 200$ less, im much further ahead and the equipment works flawlessly
I have found that with the Lee press self alignment becomes a major issue. One has to say in the case of recapping resizing it is necessary to adjust the case in order to line it up. Lee makes good products but there are some issues . Again, thanks for the video. Always good info... Just not enough money to keep on keeping up on improvement..
I was looking at that press a month ago but thought I should wait till I was able to get more info about it so please after you use it a bit let me know what you think thanks cookie man
Hi FC Does the bushing in the top of the press come out and do you know what the thread on it is. This press looks like it would be a good candidate for those looking to form cases and some of those dies are large, 1 X 10 or 1 1/4 X 12 threads.
Great video. I've seen so many reloaded bullets with run out, but no one talks about it. I'm sure it can happen with all calibers, but it becomes really noticeable with longer/thinner bullets (like 220/230gr 300blk subs). I haven't figured out the cause/effect, meaning, does run out happen on those style bullets BECAUSE they are longer, or are we just noticing it more because they're longer. I think that merits more examination. Thanks FC!!
That looks like an incredible press. That would be great for loading match ammunition. I really don't like it when the axis is off in the bullet seating process. that would take care of that problem for the most case. I'm glad you showcased this press. would you size bullets on this press or is that like putting bicycle tires on a Ferrari.😀 I would love to go back into competition shooting when my back heals up. I still shoot anyway. I just couldn't get into the positions I would meet to for DCM shoots. I haven't done that in years. keep the videos coming please. a old God like me is still learning. knowledge is power. I'm at about half full or half empty. however you look at it.I go with half full. lots of room to improve. thank you for your videos.
Nice video. Do you have a separate one showing how to slug a barrel? I understand the concept, but haven't seen it or know where to obtain the correct lead to do it. Your help is appreciated.
Spudmuffin00 you could look on the cast boolits forum for any info. for lead you just want soft as possible like a roundball or maybe a fishing weight etc.
By how many inches does the primer tray stick out to the rear? I'm considering this press over the forster because of the price but the problem is that i am planning on mounting it on my frankford arsenal platinum stand and i have a feeling that the primer tray wont fit due to that it might hit the center part of my stand. Or should i just bite the bullet and go for the forster?
@@lucass4758 the problem is that i don't think it would of fit on my frankford stand. Anyway i bought a used forster press so i don't have to worry about that anymore.
Nice press...This might be off topic, we all go for gimmicks. Ive noticed that RCBS and Lyman too, offer a 4.5 opening for longer magnum rounds. To be honest, most will not need that space, most are only loading the 30/06 lenght rounds and will never need it.
fuzztfork8 - When the presses are designed, made and sold, the advertisements try to point out things that their particular press has that the others don't have. And that opening to accommodate longer rounds was one of those. Then the other presses came out in competition. Americans want the bigger and the best, and at an acceptable price... and so the shooting landscape has all these fine presses for us to choose... Best to ya, FC Steve
So which press do you like better? I have the Hornady single stage but was going to upgrade to the Forester, but this MEC looks like a press Id really like with that free access in the front. Looks real solid too
mojo jojo - My tests have shown that the MEC Marksman and the Co-Ax both yield lower run out than other single stage presses like the RCBS Rockchucker and the Lee Custom Cast. If you have the extra cash, the Co-Ax is still the one the Army Marksmanship Unit uses. They can have all the presses they want as they have the full weight of the American taxpayer behind them - the Co - Ax is the one (the MEC Marksman is a new comer on the scene though). The MEC is considerably less than the Co-Ax. Plus, the little mounting stand for the MEC raises the cost of the press by $40 if you want that option. Have a great day, FC
Paul Watterson - I had to cut a piece of my bench edging off to accommodate this press, but it was worth it. I'm thinking of getting the press mount at this time - it should be a worthwhile addition...Best to ya, FC Steve
FortuneCookie45LC: I have an unrelated question that I hope you can shed some light on. My son has the 45-70 Henry rifle. I have the carbine, and we shoot the same loads: 57.5 grains IMR 4895, 350 grain hornady jacketed bullet. I have no problem full length resizing my brass. On the other hand my son can not full length resize his brass he says its too hard to push up into the die. Using lube of course. I use RCBS dies and he uses Hornady dies. I use a RCBS Rock Chucker (until I get my MEC mounted) and he uses the Lyman Brass Smith Victory. I am thinking at this point his chamber is larger than mine so he is getting quite a bit of brass expansion. And is this dangerous? Do you have any thoughts? Thanks!
Hi I am trying to decide between the MEC Marksman and the Forrester Co-Ax. I was wondering if there is any reason to justify the extra cost of the Forrester over the MEC. So if cost were not a factor which press would you recommend. And if cost is a factor would you recommend paying the additional cost for the Forrester.
@@user-qn6jo9xl4r I actually haven't gotten either of them since I have not found either in stock anywhere. But I have decided that I will go with the MEC Marksman when I do find one.
I like the M.E.C. mechanical far better than the "Forster" press. I wish Lee or shall I say "I hope Lee expands their line of presses just a bit" . I feel that Lee can do a great job engineering a press as such but at a Lower cost to the consumer! Great video Mr.Cookie! Kind regards! Eric Dee.
Eric Dee - We can do great things with Lee presses - I did a run out comparison between the Lee, the Co - Ax and the MEC Marksman - the MEC and Co - Ax were neck and neck, and the Lee was only behind by .001" more run out - much more important was the quality of the bullet seating die and also the sizer dies used ( providing, of course, that the press was not out of alignment - I have videos on evaluating this also). The Lee Neck Size Collet Dies are amazing. Good reloading' to ya, FC
FortuneCookie45LC; WOW!!!, Lee only off by .001" . That alone is proof that "LEE PRECISION" Has their eggs in the basket I don't care what anyone thinks, that's remarkable. For the newby and advanced, that small increment in measurements mean nothing in my opinion, especially when it comes to consumer affordability. I said it before and I'll say it again. for the price, one can't go wrong with "LEE PRECISION"!. Thank you for your time and dedication to the research and results your provide to the viewers involved in the sport of shooting and support of our second amendment rights. I've learned a lot from your videos. THANK YOU AGAIN!!! Kind regards! Eric Dee.
Eric Dee - Our presses, using standard dies and components can give run out measuring into .005 - .006". That is not very good. Using the Lee Collet Neck Size Dies and Forster Micrometer Bullet Seaters or the equivalent dies from RCBS, Redding, Hornady plus good components (like Lapua brass and Sierra / Berger bullets) - can give run out with our standard presses (unless they are not aligned - and I have videos to show how we can assess that - basically we use a straight wall longer case like 357 and if the case deflects consistently when it enters a sizing die, the alignment is off) will give run out at .000 - .002" - the Lee Custom Cast is in this league. Using the best low run out presses like Co-Ax or MEC Marksman, we get .000 - .001". I've done testing where low run out makes a difference in better accuracy even at 100 yards. Good shootin' to ya, FC
you need to make your google page a place we can chat. anyhow, I have my old rock chucker and a dillon 550. the only other thing I need is another 550, so I can have one for large primers and one for small.
Randy Slabey - The reason I got the new MEC is because I've been using MEC shotshell reloader for the past 35 years (along with a Dillon) and this is MEC's first foray into metallics and the press sounds like a good one... I couldn't resist getting one to have fun with...and to review it to all of you viewers out there at the same time especially the ones that are new to reloading and looking for a good press. Best to ya, FC
The spent primer catcher is it crappy like the shotshell loaders? I use a magnet instead but the rifle/ pistol are brass primers won't work with magnets......flimsy plastic
James roughan jr - The primer catcher container is indeed plastic, but it catches the primers well, and it doesn't fall off until we take it off. And it isn't out of sight and no primers are on the floor....sounds good. Have a great day, FC
I have this press mounted on an inline fabrication mount . The press is the worst of the 6 I have. Horrible for precision loads. Great for plinkinking ammo
I tend to grab in the middle of the handle to shorten stroke when not much force is required. Perhaps grab is the wrong way to state it. push with my fingertips is closer to what I do.
As the owner of FOUR MEC shot shell loaders, I've seen a steady decline in their quality, accompanied by a rise in prices. Now this machine is advertised with the following statement, "The MEC Marksman® is made from ductile cast iron for superior quality and durability." Are they finally admitting their stamped steel, sloppy tolerance shot shell machines are garbage?
PanamaSticks - The statement in the ad for the MEC Marksman do not contain any references to their shotshell presses. My MEC 600 Jr has been working well for me with regular use since the 1970s - I would not know about their current shotshell press quality. However, their new Marksman is a nice machine... Have a great day, FC
Thanks for your reply. I never said MEC referenced the shotshell presses in their new ad. I'm just glad to see they did not attempt to make the metallic cartridge loader with the same type of stamped steel construction. And I HOPE they are getting their act together on QUALITY, because it has suffered for the past 5 or 10 years. I'm not the only one who has said this. Friends and I have bought charge bars that were only partially anodized. Powder bushings that, while having DIFFERENT NUMBERS, HAD THE SAME DIAMETER HOLES! (Measured to .0005" precision with a bore gauge.) Machine frames that are BENT. Carriages that don't latch into each position solidly. I have a very old Model 9000 that works very well, and an equally old Sizemaster that works ok. (It is very worn and a lot of play.) It's their new shotshell machines, that are the problem. I've owned two brand new Grabbers in 16 ga. GARBAGE. Like all their shotshell reloaders, the steel parts are stamped out and welded together. Plastic parts are molded. It's my opinion that they haven't made any new tooling or molds for the 16 ga. in YEARS. That's why you can buy half a dozen new pre-crimpers, and they will all be too dull to crimp a hull.
WHAT THE H**L ? You should be showing the proper organization in all your DEMO'S so the "newbie's" can learn to do it right from the beginning, NO LOADING BLOCK ?
Walks Fletcher - I appreciate your comments. One of the precepts of my channel is to do my very best in the title and the description of the video to not mislead anybody. We can't make every video comprehensive enough to include adjusting the dies, looking up the loads, recommending loading blocks etc...the videos would be too long. UA-cam gives us analytical data to help us figure out what the viewers want to see. If I was doing a reloading video, the title would say that. This video was to show the features of the new MEC press, and why we might want that on our reloading bench...The title says First Look Evaluation... the reloading videos will be separate videos. Again, thanks for your comments. A good day to you... FC
After 34 years of continuous use for both handgun and rifle cartridges, I cracked the frame on my Lee single stage press. Funny because I was sizing 45-70's just like you in this video. (yes, I was using case lube) The good news is that I've been eyeing the MEC for several months and now I have a reason to buy it!
Thanks for the great review Mr. Long Colt.
I love this press. I got one at a price table. Awesome press with the floating shell plate. I got the whole set up at the prize table. Mount and all. It rocks.
Thank you very much for this video. Looks like MEC has come out with a very impressive metallic press. I was most impressed with the self centering shell holder. I'll bet the run-out will be great. Looks like I'll be adding a 4th press to my bench.
I was thinking of the Hornady Iron Press, but will now also consider the MEC.
Great review. I have one and it is works very well. I have been through over 1000 rounds and reloaded from 45 colt to 32 Winchester special. Look forward to your follow up videos.
Cookie. It's good to see a new product being used. Looking forward to seeing it in action.
I am glad your going to do some run out test. Almost pulled the trigger on this press....but picked up a used co-ax for 125.
Well cookie.. I was going to retire My old RCBS Rock Chucker and get one of those for my single stage use press. I'm looking forward to watching your evacuations of it's construction and Quality. Good shooting to you.. Dave.
Nice video, I saw this line of presses in a recent Midsouth shooters catalog that I got with my new Hornady LNL AP. I had never heard of heard of them
That's A wonderful looking press Mr Fortune Cookie.... fist thing I noticed was the room! Next,, How sturdy it looks! Looking forward to seeing this thing in progress.. : ) Thanks for Getting it, And sharing!
+ideamachineim ... yea man. .. impressive! the open design is of great value to me...
Thanks, Cookie! .... you always have good info that is well presented!
Hello Fortunecokie 45 and thank you for doing these videos:)
Owning both The presses, who do you think have solved the (sound idea) of self alignment best between Forster and MEC?
And after a few years of use, which of the two do you prefer to use for what job, and Why?
Thank you again :)
Claus
im still rocking a pacific super deluxe, single stage from like 1960 lol
Im still rockin' the Lyman Spar T from the 1960's. Everyone laughs at the ram angle.
m4jedi - Yes, indeed - like our guns, our reloading presses and equipment are transgenerational - spanning, bracketing, and coupling generations...Good reloadin' to ya, FC
nrainfidelforlife - The Lyman Spar T is the progenitor of the Lyman T - Mag of today (and yes, the T Mag does not have that angle)... Good reloadin' to ya, FC
I was looking into this press last week and I was so tempted on buying it, I hope you can upload a video very soon about the run out and how you feel about that long stroke, I also saw a video where you can remove the threading part and change it for a Hornady lock N load conversion kit.
Hi Cookie. Will a lee or Hornady shell holder work with the MEC?
Looks like a very good press.
maybe something in my future?
I'm just getting started with reloading and am using the Lee 4 turret semi progressive press.
seems to me like reloading is becoming more and more popular.
thanks for the video.
This is my next press.
I'm using the RCBS Rock chucker press and I do notice a misalignment
The MEC press looks to have potential. To add another often overlooked press that produces low run out ammo and self centers, the RCBS Summit press does an excellent job seating and crimping bullets but it best as companion to the Rock Chucker, Lee Classic or similar press.
very nice piece of equipment, says alot when it handles the 45-70 easily
Looking forward to the run out tests on 223 .
I'm starting to rationalize by the different systems for floating dies and shell holders that a lot of the reasoning for it has to do more with the alignment of the flash hole to the decapping stem and pins. It actually makes a lot of sense how misalignment causes excess run out and how floating the dies and/or shell holders would help fix this or lock rings with o-rings to some extent. I think this especially is effective when using brass with inconsistently drilled flasholes such as cheap federal AE brass and makes sense why Sinclair expander mandrels usually result in less run out.
outside of that though the press looks real solid!
Matt N - And there are so many presses out there for us to use...features and price points...!! These discussions are very welcome to all... Best to ya, FC Steve
Please compare runout vs. the forster. Also, what is max case lenght/caliber for each press?
I think he should also compare to something basic like a rock chucker or cheap lee C press.
Thanks FC45LC. Looks interesting.
FortuneCookie45LC I have greatly enjoyed your vids. I am just now getting into reloading. Single stage only for now. I have an RCBS JR3 (1977 mfg) that has never been used. My dad bought it along with a Rem700 BDL 7mm rem mag. I also have the never touched RCBS dies and the rifle. Would you recommend using this press or should I buy something new like the MEC or the Forster Co-Ax?
hello fc i think the free floating shell holder wil help a bit, but not much if the die is not square and in line, the case will enter central but then it wil bent away,the only way a die would be selfcentering ,was ,if the die would be turnt in a steel bal that can move freely in the top of the press.
i never thought i would see the day! now if Ponsness would come out with one, thanks for the info FortuneCookie.
shotdog - It's an American principle of big business...expansion of product lines and penetration of markets...Have a great day, FC
Im just getting into reloading as of a week ago, and come to find out, titan reloading LEE factory outlet store is like 45 min south of me and MEC is made/based 45 min west of me here in wisconsin. I lucked out i guess, i can go right to the places lol
91XtremeRT - That's fantastic...You might call before you go though to make sure that the factory outlet prices are at least in line with their dealers. Sometimes, they won't undercut their dealers and that causes the prices to actually be higher at the factories. But if I had the chance to visit their operations, I'd definitely do that...If you make it over to Lee, be sure to say hello to Andy Lee for me...he might not remember me though as I'm sure he has lots of contacts. He head's up the Casting Division of Lee Precision. Have a great day, FC
Prices were good. Went there and got a classic turret kit, bunch of extra shell holders and primer pins, little over 2000 primers and an extra turret and a couple full die sets. All for under 450. Damn good pricing in my opinion. There are a few things i missed but in general, minus bullets and powder, i got everything i need in order to reload 3 different calibers. And it all works really well. And to think i almost bought a dillon 650xl. At 200$ less, im much further ahead and the equipment works flawlessly
91XtremeRT - Congrats on your reloading stuff...and Good reloadin' to ya, FC
Hey FC, saw this press with " Ultimate Reloader " channel and he gave this press the thumbs up also :-)
We need to tell Elvis Ammo :-)
I have found that with the Lee press self alignment becomes a major issue. One has to say in the case of recapping resizing it is necessary to adjust the case in order to line it up.
Lee makes good products but there are some issues .
Again, thanks for the video.
Always good info...
Just not enough money to keep on keeping up on improvement..
I was looking at that press a month ago but thought I should wait till I was able to get more info about it so please after you use it a bit let me know what you think thanks cookie man
I had an issues placing the handle, so the nut wont interfere with the bottom of the press assembly
Hi FC
Does the bushing in the top of the press come out and do you know what the thread on it is. This press looks like it would be a good candidate for those looking to form cases and some of those dies are large, 1 X 10 or 1 1/4 X 12 threads.
Wow, looks great but what advantage does it have over the Forester please?
Great video. I've seen so many reloaded bullets with run out, but no one talks about it. I'm sure it can happen with all calibers, but it becomes really noticeable with longer/thinner bullets (like 220/230gr 300blk subs). I haven't figured out the cause/effect, meaning, does run out happen on those style bullets BECAUSE they are longer, or are we just noticing it more because they're longer. I think that merits more examination. Thanks FC!!
That looks like an incredible press. That would be great for loading match ammunition. I really don't like it when the axis is off in the bullet seating process. that would take care of that problem for the most case. I'm glad you showcased this press. would you size bullets on this press or is that like putting bicycle tires on a Ferrari.😀 I would love to go back into competition shooting when my back heals up. I still shoot anyway. I just couldn't get into the positions I would meet to for DCM shoots. I haven't done that in years. keep the videos coming please. a old God like me is still learning. knowledge is power. I'm at about half full or half empty. however you look at it.I go with half full. lots of room to improve. thank you for your videos.
Nice video. Do you have a separate one showing how to slug a barrel? I understand the concept, but haven't seen it or know where to obtain the correct lead to do it. Your help is appreciated.
Sorry- wrong vid I'm referring to. Meant to post on the one with testing leading of the Laser cast bullets...
Spudmuffin00 you could look on the cast boolits forum for any info. for lead you just want soft as possible like a roundball or maybe a fishing weight etc.
Jake A - I just found FC video showing how to slug the barrel, but I appreciate your input as well. Have a great one!
What kind of 45-70 rifle do you have? Would you do a short VR on it? Thanks 👍
By how many inches does the primer tray stick out to the rear? I'm considering this press over the forster because of the price but the problem is that i am planning on mounting it on my frankford arsenal platinum stand and i have a feeling that the primer tray wont fit due to that it might hit the center part of my stand. Or should i just bite the bullet and go for the forster?
Why not just buy the MEC Marksman stand?
@@lucass4758 the problem is that i don't think it would of fit on my frankford stand. Anyway i bought a used forster press so i don't have to worry about that anymore.
Very nice job as always. What was the cost of the press?
Mec or forster for a single stage press?
Hi zack, what did you endup getting because iam in same dilemma ! Please let me know it will be my first press. Thank you
I love Mec if I may ask what is the price of One of These Fine presses
So, after more than three years of use, what is your opinion ? Im in the market for a new press.
Nice press...This might be off topic, we all go for gimmicks. Ive noticed that RCBS and Lyman too, offer a 4.5 opening for longer magnum rounds. To be honest, most will not need that space, most are only loading the 30/06 lenght rounds and will never need it.
fuzztfork8 - When the presses are designed, made and sold, the advertisements try to point out things that their particular press has that the others don't have. And that opening to accommodate longer rounds was one of those. Then the other presses came out in competition. Americans want the bigger and the best, and at an acceptable price... and so the shooting landscape has all these fine presses for us to choose... Best to ya, FC Steve
So which press do you like better? I have the Hornady single stage but was going to upgrade to the Forester, but this MEC looks like a press Id really like with that free access in the front. Looks real solid too
mojo jojo - My tests have shown that the MEC Marksman and the Co-Ax both yield lower run out than other single stage presses like the RCBS Rockchucker and the Lee Custom Cast. If you have the extra cash, the Co-Ax is still the one the Army Marksmanship Unit uses. They can have all the presses they want as they have the full weight of the American taxpayer behind them - the Co - Ax is the one (the MEC Marksman is a new comer on the scene though). The MEC is considerably less than the Co-Ax. Plus, the little mounting stand for the MEC raises the cost of the press by $40 if you want that option. Have a great day, FC
Great video again- thanks. Maybe your channel should've been named, "Smart Cookie." 👍
Nice press!!
I do not understand about what you had to do to install the Primer catcher to the press & Bench.?
Just ordered one of these. I have a butcher block table top on my reloading
bench and I hope it fits otherwise I will have to pull out my router.
Paul Watterson - I had to cut a piece of my bench edging off to accommodate this press, but it was worth it. I'm thinking of getting the press mount at this time - it should be a worthwhile addition...Best to ya, FC Steve
FortuneCookie45LC: I have an unrelated question that I hope you can
shed some light on. My son has the 45-70 Henry rifle. I have the carbine,
and we shoot the same loads: 57.5 grains IMR 4895, 350 grain hornady
jacketed bullet. I have no problem full length resizing my brass. On the
other hand my son can not full length resize his brass he says its too hard
to push up into the die. Using lube of course. I use RCBS dies and he uses
Hornady dies. I use a RCBS Rock Chucker (until I get my MEC mounted) and he uses the Lyman Brass Smith Victory. I am thinking at this point
his chamber is larger than mine so he is getting quite a bit of brass
expansion. And is this dangerous? Do you have any thoughts? Thanks!
Good video thanks
Hi I am trying to decide between the MEC Marksman and the Forrester Co-Ax. I was wondering if there is any reason to justify the extra cost of the Forrester over the MEC. So if cost were not a factor which press would you recommend. And if cost is a factor would you recommend paying the additional cost for the Forrester.
what did you endup getting because iam in same dilemma ! Please let me know it will be my first reloading press. Thank you
@@user-qn6jo9xl4r I actually haven't gotten either of them since I have not found either in stock anywhere. But I have decided that I will go with the MEC Marksman when I do find one.
@@jetsimmer can tell why decided to go with Mec , is it because of the cost?
@@user-qn6jo9xl4r yeah mainly.
@@jetsimmer thanks
Good job.
I like the M.E.C. mechanical far better than the "Forster" press. I wish Lee or shall I say "I hope Lee expands their line of presses just a bit" . I feel that Lee can do a great job engineering a press as such but at a Lower cost to the consumer!
Great video Mr.Cookie!
Kind regards! Eric Dee.
Eric Dee - We can do great things with Lee presses - I did a run out comparison between the Lee, the Co - Ax and the MEC Marksman - the MEC and Co - Ax were neck and neck, and the Lee was only behind by .001" more run out - much more important was the quality of the bullet seating die and also the sizer dies used ( providing, of course, that the press was not out of alignment - I have videos on evaluating this also). The Lee Neck Size Collet Dies are amazing. Good reloading' to ya, FC
FortuneCookie45LC;
WOW!!!, Lee only off by .001" . That alone is proof that "LEE PRECISION" Has their eggs in the basket I don't care what anyone thinks, that's remarkable. For the newby and advanced, that small increment in measurements mean nothing in my opinion, especially when it comes to consumer affordability. I said it before and I'll say it again. for the price, one can't go wrong with "LEE PRECISION"!.
Thank you for your time and dedication to the research and results your provide to the viewers involved in the sport of shooting and support of our second amendment rights. I've learned a lot from your videos. THANK YOU AGAIN!!!
Kind regards! Eric Dee.
Eric Dee - Our presses, using standard dies and components can give run out measuring into .005 - .006". That is not very good. Using the Lee Collet Neck Size Dies and Forster Micrometer Bullet Seaters or the equivalent dies from RCBS, Redding, Hornady plus good components (like Lapua brass and Sierra / Berger bullets) - can give run out with our standard presses (unless they are not aligned - and I have videos to show how we can assess that - basically we use a straight wall longer case like 357 and if the case deflects consistently when it enters a sizing die, the alignment is off) will give run out at .000 - .002" - the Lee Custom Cast is in this league. Using the best low run out presses like Co-Ax or MEC Marksman, we get .000 - .001". I've done testing where low run out makes a difference in better accuracy even at 100 yards. Good shootin' to ya, FC
you need to make your google page a place we can chat.
anyhow, I have my old rock chucker and a dillon 550. the only other thing I need is another 550, so I can have one for large primers and one for small.
Thank you fortune cookie !
I've got to get into reloading.
Good video. The press how much?
270WeaMag I picked mine up from Midway USA for 179. I also got the mount for it as I wanted the extra height.
Thanks my friend by the information...
your Forester press needed to be replaced this soon? What was wrong with it please?
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Randy Slabey - The reason I got the new MEC is because I've been using MEC shotshell reloader for the past 35 years (along with a Dillon) and this is MEC's first foray into metallics and the press sounds like a good one... I couldn't resist getting one to have fun with...and to review it to all of you viewers out there at the same time especially the ones that are new to reloading and looking for a good press. Best to ya, FC
The spent primer catcher is it crappy like the shotshell loaders? I use a magnet instead but the rifle/ pistol are brass primers won't work with magnets......flimsy plastic
James roughan jr - The primer catcher container is indeed plastic, but it catches the primers well, and it doesn't fall off until we take it off. And it isn't out of sight and no primers are on the floor....sounds good. Have a great day, FC
Cost compared to a comp. Lee Press?
Did you sell the Dillon's?
How much does this Press cost & Is it American Made or China Made etc.
Crap! Curse you admiral cookie!! Now I want this press.
Bubba John thats fortune cookie good sir!!
haven't seen any advantage over my '78 RCBS press.
What is runout?
That is where the bullet and the case center lines don't match. You can see it if you roll a case on a flat surface and the bullet appears to wobble.
How much off center the bullet is from the case.
Coffee and a FortuneCookie45LC to get the day started....going to be a good day. lol.
I have this press mounted on an inline fabrication mount . The press is the worst of the 6 I have. Horrible for precision loads. Great for plinkinking ammo
you didn't show how you get the used primers out
looks very difficult to me , looks like you need to crawl under the bench to get them out
I'll stick with my 30+ year old RCBS Rockchucker.
You should have not cut your bench as you did......that was a mistake.
My arm hurts watching that long handle stroke !
I tend to grab in the middle of the handle to shorten stroke when not much force is required. Perhaps grab is the wrong way to state it. push with my fingertips is closer to what I do.
I like the Lee because you can adjust the length....but not the stroke...
As the owner of FOUR MEC shot shell loaders, I've seen a steady decline in their quality, accompanied by a rise in prices. Now this machine is advertised with the following statement,
"The MEC Marksman® is made from ductile cast iron for superior quality and durability."
Are they finally admitting their stamped steel, sloppy tolerance shot shell machines are garbage?
PanamaSticks - The statement in the ad for the MEC Marksman do not contain any references to their shotshell presses. My MEC 600 Jr has been working well for me with regular use since the 1970s - I would not know about their current shotshell press quality. However, their new Marksman is a nice machine... Have a great day, FC
Thanks for your reply. I never said MEC referenced the shotshell presses in their new ad. I'm just glad to see they did not attempt to make the metallic cartridge loader with the same type of stamped steel construction. And I HOPE they are getting their act together on QUALITY, because it has suffered for the past 5 or 10 years. I'm not the only one who has said this. Friends and I have bought charge bars that were only partially anodized. Powder bushings that, while having DIFFERENT NUMBERS, HAD THE SAME DIAMETER HOLES! (Measured to .0005" precision with a bore gauge.) Machine frames that are BENT. Carriages that don't latch into each position solidly. I have a very old Model 9000 that works very well, and an equally old Sizemaster that works ok. (It is very worn and a lot of play.) It's their new shotshell machines, that are the problem. I've owned two brand new Grabbers in 16 ga. GARBAGE. Like all their shotshell reloaders, the steel parts are stamped out and welded together. Plastic parts are molded. It's my opinion that they haven't made any new tooling or molds for the 16 ga. in YEARS. That's why you can buy half a dozen new pre-crimpers, and they will all be too dull to crimp a hull.
Love your videos, but I can tell you don’t reload shotgun shells. MEC is pronounced Meck. I just wanted you to know. I’m not being a smart butt.
WHAT THE H**L ? You should be showing the proper organization in all your DEMO'S so the "newbie's" can learn to do it right from the beginning, NO LOADING BLOCK ?
Walks Fletcher - I appreciate your comments. One of the precepts of my channel is to do my very best in the title and the description of the video to not mislead anybody. We can't make every video comprehensive enough to include adjusting the dies, looking up the loads, recommending loading blocks etc...the videos would be too long. UA-cam gives us analytical data to help us figure out what the viewers want to see. If I was doing a reloading video, the title would say that. This video was to show the features of the new MEC press, and why we might want that on our reloading bench...The title says First Look Evaluation... the reloading videos will be separate videos. Again, thanks for your comments. A good day to you... FC