Roaming the East Village in 1985 with Miss Margie
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2016
- Miss Margie (aka Margie Thorpe) takes her friend Lisa on a tour of the slums of the East Village and encounters many of her friends along the way in this true-life video shot by Nelson Sullivan in 1985.
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2018: surf the web. 1985: surf the streets.
lol
Exactly !
Yes I was just searching for the words to describe it. Get on the train, with a token, no plans just a book in your jacket pocket and stay out there for 12 hours. Make friends, share ideas, exchange numbers, maybe call a friend with a quarter at a payphone and say "hey there's this festival at Bleeker Street. I'll meet you in front the the coffee shop in an hour".
Now it's stupid apps and texts so we can all ignore each other and "like" each other's dumb pictures of their morning coffee or desert.
FACTS
2023 still the same lol
pre cell phones made your day unpredictable in a good way
Wow, Miss Margie is something else. She walked those streets like she OWNED them. She's about the perfect '80's Southern Belle'
Good call!
100%
Fact's
she’s fucking hot!
she annoying
When strangers actually said hi
👋🏻
Hi.
So glad these videos are being put out. Nelson would've wanted people to see these and meet his friends
IDK, I think the purpose was only ever to document his own life for his and his friends purposes. Maybe a part of Nelson thought it'd be nice when Rupaul etc. became the stars he knew they'd be to have these films as a reminder. Unfortunately, I imagine many of his friends do not like these films purely because they are a painful reminder of so many lost loved ones like Nelson himself. So, I think if there is any kind of paranormal afterlife, I think Nelson would certainly be content in other people being able to understand the lives of the such loving, creative people, to be used as an education tool to remind us to be kind and never give up on ourselves, is more than noble. I certainly think it does and I've been finding a lot of comfort in them tbh.
@@92RedRevolver actually a few days before he died he quit his job at the music store to work on a cable show that featured all these lovely videos he shot. There is a documentary called Nelson Sullivan’s World of Wonder and they have a mock up of his show, where he talks about wanting to introduce the world to his friends and family and to also document the history of the time. I’ll link a video when i find it of the mock up.
@@92RedRevolver ua-cam.com/video/mPbGEBYEk_Y/v-deo.html
So this is what he imagined his show to be. He wanted to show the world all the interesting folks here in NYC. It’s so interesting because he was so ahead of even cable. I think some folks find it painful, but rupaul looks back fondly at the time. There is a clip from a podcast where he talks about watching Nelson’s last video ever. It’s really cool to hear him talk about this time and how he went back to the house 5 ninth avenue after many years.
Yes he recorded these videos because he knew many of his friends would become famous.
There needs to be a Major Documentary and Movie Made about Nelson!!!
I agree. I see a young Tom Sizemore playing him. Not sure if I'm spelling the name correct.
Nah man, this is it. Just watch and enjoy
@@IceBreakBottle I have watched just about everything! I just want him to be honored the way he deserved to be ❤️
@@auntemmyd1604 I want to make a beautiful movie about him, Blackout & those closest to Nelson ❤️
NYC was so raw back then. Such character.
I miss those days in NYC.
and such a soulless husk now too :(
still is. just drastically veiled now by distractions and phones and the continual downwards fall of talking face to face.
beautiful. hard to believe these scenes were unplanned
jess galindez unplanned is always the best it makes for real genuine footage much more interesting
Oh, to be young and living in NYC in the 1980s!!!! In 1985 I was 23 years old and living in village. I saw some terrible urban poverty and homelessness then, not to mention the crack and AIDS epidemic that robbed me of so many people I loved. The area is now so much different than it was in 1985. The East Village and NYC on a whole are worlds apart from they way they were in the mid 1980s. WOW .... how could 1985 have been 35 years ago? Incredible to me!
1985 to me will always seem just like yesterday.
And this was 6 days after MTV's war to settle the score and one month before WrestleMania
@@Iworkwithnitwits i mean time is not linear
it's so sad what has become of NYC... it had been so full of life, creativity, freedom and opportunity... now it's so inauthentic and blandly corporate.
@@jasonledyard404 I've been away for decades, BUT, may be returning for a job in October so, we'll see. It's been IONS since I lived there. When I left we danced ar Area, The Palladium and Lime light and drank after work beers at Uncle Charlies (I know, I'm like totally dating myself). I know the place is nothing like she was, for good and for bad, but can you explain to me WHY a dismal little studio way the hell out in Brooklyn cost alomst 3K per month. I mean WTF is that? I hope I'm not making a mistake.
This is quality beats all the other trash on UA-cam 🙂👍🏻
I love these two. Margie represents how free we were in the 80's..not alot of fear..fun rap and music..we had a blast..people were just different..a different world...best time of my life. Glad I was there.Wish I could go back. These films take me there. So glad u have these.
Me too. What an incredible time. It was such a struggle but every day was an adventure. So glad I got to experience NYC and the East Village in the 80’s. Pyramid was incredible. I walked through Tompkins nearly every day. Still waiting to see Boy Bar… or more of the incredible street art.
Wish I could go back too.
I am fascinated by Miss Margie! She seems like such a cool chick. I found her on facebook and she's a realtor in Atlanta and looks great. I messaged her a few times and she responded and told me Lisa and her spent New Years eve together. Makes me so happy that they are still friends.
Can you link her Facebook page it would be cool to see how she looks now
Can you send her fb?
Yes. She was very comfortable in front of the camera. You can see how stiff and unsure the others were compared to today's standards! This was the time period that the Gentrification took hold.
It’s so strange to see the same streets that I know well but in a completely different world to the one we live in now. Nelson’s videos are a real treasure. I go back to them every few years just to remind myself.
This is what one calls a magnetic personality. 👑🇺🇸
I remember days like this....walking around...wherever...those years seems the whole atmosphere was different... peaceful...
I have just bought some vintages clothes resembling some NYC´s 80´s and 90´s fashion just being able of remebering that vibe a little.
I've watched quite a few of Nelson's wonderful videos but I think this is my favourite thus far. Miss Margie is absolutely delightful and I just love how they are bumping into so many of their friends on their stroll and how friendly everyone is. I remember that world :)
Wow I just commented and basically thought the same thing, and then I scroll down and see your comment
my fave too, margie and all that street art makes me weep for yesterday...
yep young people of today are assholes millennials are total fucking assholes they are always like how dare you talk to me as if i would ever talk to you in person no way just look me up on the plastic fake ass internet world cause i will shatter into a million pieces in the real world cause i have no substance lol
32 years ago TODAY and the weather is exactly the same on this day as it was then. 67 in the middle of February.
I bet NY in the 60s was spectacular. I want to believe it was Breakfast at Tiffany's.....
The was something so awesome about how grimy and gritty nyc looked in the 80s!
It looks disgusting, tbh.
I feel embarrassed at how much of a crush I have when I watch these videos of Miss Margie.
But moreso, it makes me feel a little silly for feeling an ache for an era of New York that I didnt get to experience when I lived there. The party was long over.
Again, thanks for uploading these. I enjoy them very much.
Nelson had the best camera technique. All his videos are remarkable.
When New York was still New York and had character. So sad how it has become today.
All of Nelsons videos are important. A vlogger ahead of his time. I believe Nelson knew his videos would be watched in the future.
thats the whole point of filming stuff..there neednt be social media labels slapped on it like 'ahead of its time'...
It is amazing how none of them are bothered one bit by the total decay, yards of trash and utter deterioration at every corner. I remember dropping a friend of mine off on Ave B and E3rd st and it was a burned out building. I said where are you going? She said there's a club in the basement that;s how it was back then.
You mean like every other dem run city’s of today.
Refreshing to see people interact without a smart phone in hand. Miss the pre smart phone days.
What a beautiful soul she has! So positive!
Margie is till in Atlanta to this day selling real estate and looking wonderful as ever.
Nate The Great you know her?!
she seems like such a fantastic person
@@adamflores2326 found her on Facebook
i found her on instagram, still so gorgeous
Wow, cannot believe the amount of people they run into that they know. Look at the packed full streets in NY now. It seems so care free back then. Everyone is so cordial and sweet to each other. If this is the “rebel” youth of the 80’s I am worried for this world of today.
Natatron it was a different world back then, that's for sure. I still miss the 80's.
It was still European American
What your living in now is Africa America
Huge difference
14:34
That water flowing away for the first and last time in 1985 is fascinating
I love the Southern belle I'm a Southerner living in NYC..
ELIPOUL u and ur people killed nyc u yuppie
i love how many people they randomly bump into/talk to on their travels. does new York have this sense of community today?
na
nope
Not any more.
Grace Darbs Sadly no. It's nothing like it used to be.
No. You need permits and licenses to film any location, and you need a permit to film any person.
Wow, 85. I was 25 and just got married. Loved going to the city and cruising around Manhattan. People were just so relaxed compared to todays society. Oh and cell phones were not anatomically attached to our bodies.
I miss how peoples voices sounded back then. No vocal fry. No rising intonation.
Strange isn't it? How in viewing this video, for just a moment, 1985 becomes the "now"
How do you mean?
@@musicaltheatergeek79 Because as your attention is taken up in watching and listening, just for a little while you are in the "now" of 1985.
Very true
Right. I even think about how my grandma and ppl that have past are walking around and living while this is playing. At that point in time they were living their lives
Incredible. Cliche as it sounds, those were the days. Love Miss Margie! Love watching Margie & Lisa interact as female friends should; women these days are so in competition with each other.
Jonas mekas / Nelson Sullivan celebrate life, friends and all and all document the beauty of the times they live in. Great artists. Great recorders.
I have seen a lot of Nelson's videos and this one I'm just now seeing, I must say this is one of my favorites. Everyone is just so happy and high on life, well and maybe other things LOL
my fave 2....think its cause of miss faboo margie
I've been watching these vids for a few yrs, love them. Reminds me of a NYC that I roamed and loved. I was so young and constantly seeing bands. While I'm watching this, I was shocked to see the gals and Nelson run into their random friends and I spotted someone I used to work with! Louie! Lololol.
This makes me so sad that the city isn't like this AT ALL anymore :(
Honestly, it looks ugly and filthy. I watch these videos for the people and nostalgia (though I was a kid in the 80s. My era was the 90s).
@@vikingsong2068 , it has the beauty of endless opportunities & vast possibilities to it... and the feeling of art and creation is everywhere... unlike now!
This is just an incredible slice of history thank you ❤️
I contacted Margie yesterday and she's doing well!
the naivete before the STORM... wish i was there...
Mark Milburn What was the storm?
Gentrification
This is such a great video. Thank you Nelson for being ahead of the curve!
So cool to see these videos!
Miss Margie has great hair!
We should all ban together and start a Nelson Sullivan fan club so we can somehow get all his videos out to masses and create a movie about his life!
Everyone has been saying new York ain't what it used to b since forever.
When women carried purses and note pads and pens...
Whoa
I carry notepads and pens because I sometimes am too lazy to keep my cell phone charged.
So? Women still do...if they want to.
7:53 its hard to believe that there were so many abandoned buildings and empty lots back then. It's the way I remember the neighborhood and the way it is now seems so foreign to me.
There was so much burned buildings because when this was filmed a lot of landlords were not making enough money from the apartments so they burned them on purpose to get the insurance money
God, I love Nelson's videos.
Doesn't help that the 80's seemed like the only decade in the 1900's that wasn't all doom and gloom.
There was a fair share of doom and gloom in NYC during the 1980's, but people partied and danced and laughed and did their best to escape or ignore it. There were less technological distractions, laws and restrictions in the pre 9/11 world, and people were a lot more carefree and willing to interact with each other, converse and just hang out in general. The arts and music scenes in 80's NYC was bustling too, and the street culture was rich and authentic. Trust me though, it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows. Crack and dope, A.I.D.S., poverty & homelessness, violence , crime and grime were everywhere, and many people struggled and were swallowed up by the despair of the ghettos in the city.
The early 90s were fabulous.
oh payphones...When life was simpler. What did we do when we couldn't check what our friends were doing 24/7?
tonlo72 we looked at the sky instead of the ground as we type away today on our cell phones.
We met them
you went to see them visage á visage
wait till you learn what phone freaking was lol
Great video.
I love this!
Now this is the Lower East Side I remember!
One of my favorites. Such southern composure on their part, haha.
amazing video it’s like a time machine i was only 15 back then wow he’s blogging in 1985 lol so amazing!
Beautiful woman Miss Margie Thorpe.... Lovely lady lumps
margie is not woman
she is
bmillerdrums She's @MissMargiet on Twitter. Still looks hot.
i hope it aint tru that she now sells real estate, NO
Margie is so magnetic and charming!
Beautiful memories
i love Margie's 1950s housewife style.
1985 - i was 3 years old … I like to watch these videos ❤️
How wild it was to watch video of the very same streets I walked back then hoping to see myself, it had character then but sadly it has all changed.
My birthday is on the 24th Feb! In 1985, I turned 7; Too young be hanging out with Nelson and his crew.
Duran Duran, tears for fears, Human legue,Wham,,,, were popular in 1985
So what
The gay community in NYC from Nelson's videos seem like a small town......Everybody seemed to know everyone and they ALL knew Nelson!
"You're tourists, you're ruining my neighborhood " i wonder if he's alive, What he thinks of the neighborhood now.
Wow! That dude that shook her hand and kissed it, what a gent. He didn't speak English but he saw what we all saw [see]. Amazing!
Wow a montha and day before i was born!!!! my mom actually passed on this date in 2005..
Call me crazy I think this video is his best video and has a feeling of great movie the camera just absolutely loves her. The cuts are perfect this is some stuff.
Miss Margie got it going on!!!!! Damn!!!
miss Margie is gorgeous 😻🥰
Miss Margie’s dress! Love!
I just love Nelson videos I'm hook just to see this back in the 80;s here it's 2019 I'm not gay I love he brought you into his world
before everyone was glued to their phones. just real people and real friendships
Love the videos of Margie ...anymore .....? I've seen some other ones . ...
I miss this even though I'm too young to understand. I was born in 1992 and I was blessed to be. But oh what it would be like if I was born sooner
omg! 5:38
The Life Cafe! I only know of this from RENT and Jonathan Larson...but it seemed epic!
Pity there isn't a travel agency for New York 1985. (Seeing it in a play is one thing, but in real "Life")
I love this freeform video technique, just let the events unspool in front of you.
Max and Margie would have made beautiful babies! ❤️😊
I love miss margies sas and southern charm. I am finding it very attractive.
Miss Margie seems like such a lovely woman
Shes beautiful wow
nelson was the warhol of the east village
better, nelson has sass
omg the atlanta night portors haha i love it !!! Old skhool graff at its rarity
Where are you today, Miss Margie???
We (I) Need you!!!
Wow... I just found a link to a video clip of her just last year (2019) in Atlanta. I love how she speaks about "giving back to the community"!
ua-cam.com/video/6G_IxB7Zjzg/v-deo.html
I'm sure Ms Margie is having a hoot watching Nelson's youtube that didn't exist 40 years ago.
I watch these and wish I could pick up the phone and call Nelson!! I also want to have Miss Margie as a big sister! Anyone know where she is now?
lilliteningpea Margie Thorpe she's a realtor in Atlanta
Geisha Oropesa thank you
Twitter .....@missmargiet
They sure know where clothes back then had style,everything was real pure then.
Alas, of the three people I know in the film two have passed away.
seems awfully warm for February
I want to know where are these people now, they're alive????
Miss Margie was the archetypal southern belle 🥰 They don't make 'em like that anymore
9:25...time traveller from a 2015 hipster.
that's it. I'm filming dc before it becomes completely hipster... hopefully I'm not too late. that way when I die folks can upload my videos in 2037
I grew up in DC. Now, the place I knew, local and a bit rough has been paved over and gentrified out of all recognition.
Great video...but I'm dizzy! lol
I like Nelson's earlier videos before Alig showed up and the later ones where he isn't around. He just brought a toxic quality to every situation. I'm sure some of Nelson's friends must have avoided Michael like the plague.
Lawrence C I agree. It’s probably best Nelson wasn’t around when Michael murdered Angel because the New York he loved was gone.
I WOULD not want tht g dam alig's kharma. fuk no
Yo where my fellow Margie simps at
that chick is so fucking cool!
Miss Margie reminds me of King Princess.
Love that dress!
NYC is a hollow image of itself now, overpriced, overbuilt Instagram photo spot . As genuine as Epcot center. This was a real actual place before, creative and you could be want you wanted to be. Now it’s a police state of cameras and license plate readers.