What Could Have Been - The Patrik Laine Story
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- Опубліковано 26 кві 2022
- Patrik Laine was seen to be the face of the Winnipeg Jets for a long time. In this video, we look back at how Laine went from the face of the Jets, to traded in just 4 seasons.
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Imagine that scoring 63 points in 68 games is considered an "down year" for someone like Laine.
I wouldn't call it one of his down years. That was one of his best seasons where he was close to a point per game
He brought this on himself claiming to be the number one pick jets fans were high thinking laine was better then mathews considering matty got like 100 more points and 60 goals in 1 season plus he missed games for rest and suspension lmao could of got 65
Well to be fair scoring was way up this year so that’s pretty average ppg wise
Tkachuk and Dubois are better any ways
Imagine keeping guys like Blake and Mark over Patty? Lol
This makes it sound like he's dead or out of the league. Lol.
He just turned 24. If he can get the right coach and matures to hustle more, dude can still be one of the elite goal scorers and not have a horrendous + -
Exactly lmao. I mean he's been injured pretty frequently and he just finished his first point per game season in the NHL. Well, I guess the ''what could've been'' is just from Jets' point of view
I don't believe so
@@veetee355 as you're welcome to believe. That's the feeling I got, and clearly others feel the same
I agree . 24 is so young. Could be just hitting is prime. In my opinion players shouldn’t even be judged hard until around this age. Anything up to that is bonus. It’s not their fault they get drafted into the NHL at 18. Pretty much still kids, by today’s standard.
@@jackb8598 and he played goalie until he was 12..late start to actual skating..
that hatty vs matthews was absolutely electric
I was at that game and had brought my friend from Sierra Lionne to his first ever hockey game. Instant lifelong memory!
Sure was but...#34 is better. Always was.
@@austonboston4361 cool. i agree. but it was still an amazing moment
@@theotherfoot I was at that game too, me and my buddy sat across the isle from these 2 Toronto fans who were talking shit all game, it was so satisfying to see their sadness at the end 😄🤣😂
@@nickhigh4358
You're absolutely right Nick. It was an amazing moment. So much so that I admit, I did wonder after the game if the Leafs took the right guy. Did I hear all about it next day at work. Had to give that one to Patrik Laine, hands down.
Laine's gonna be a great player in this league for a long time no matter who he plays for. Dude can crush it in CBJ - he can do it anywhere.
While he's no Selänne yet the fans once again lost a great sniper. He's not a perfect player but he brings fans out of their seats, which is what it's all about.
Not really. He doesn't seem to have much of a personality. Just very bland with one dimensional game.
@@Dave-oz9qh salty tears i like em tell me more.
its about winning and Laine doesn't help you win
@@gucci1131 lmao good joke.
@@gucci1131 he scored so many times in OT for CBJ this past season
Patrik Laine may have faded a little bit but he has one thing that Auston Matthews doesn't, a playoff series win.
He also has a Johnny Gaudreu to feed him now lol
@@socrates7722 true statement there.
Well. Auston Matthews has a playoff series win now.
@@JustaComment93 you have to consider when this comment was posted, he hadn’t won a playoff series.
Nice try though
@@PENS68 yeah. I’m just stating the facts. No need to get mad.
Always wondered what happened in Winnipeg that Laine wanted out.
Was listening to a sports radio show, just last week actually, and what someone that knows said that away from the rink Laine was most happy staying in and playing video games. Apparently, Wheeler & Schiefelie were always on Patrik's case about hanging with them during down time. I mean, if that's the case and your teammate is a talent like Laine, leave him alone & let him be happy so he's recharged for games. A happy Laine will fill the opposition net & make you happy.
They always wanted Laine to skate a little harder, put in a little more effort. Why did Buff always yell “skate, kid!” Because Laine expected to sit there like Ovechkin and receive pass after pass only to score less than half the time. Had Laine moved even a little or put some effort, he would’ve had a lot more goals.
@@ThinkAbout-It thats not players job to do is it? its coaches...
That is exactly what experienced players in the leadership group are expected to do.
@@luir_mias That's what leaders do. They will call you out if you're not doing your part.
Even if you think of yourself as a sniper. You NEED to play both ends of the ice. Ovechkin didn't play both ends until 2018. And they instantly won the Cup.
@@luir_mias If you have a C or an A on your Jersey it is your job ahaha
He was bullied out of Winnipeg by Wheeler and Schiefele and Paul Maurice didn't do a thing to stop it.
Patrik was too busy playing fornite and cranking his meat to play good in WPG. Wheeler had to let him know about it
@@stevebuscemi3622 who cares? Wheeler is dummy and sheiff is moron too so that's it.
@@stevebuscemi3622ya I highly doubt it was wheeler, schiefele, and Maurice all in the wrong. It’s like saying everyone else is in the wrong and I’m in the right. I don’t know much about the whole laine thing but I don’t think everyone else was against him, maybe laine was in the wrong.
@@djfluffyc9148 except Wheeler admitted to it after the trade, saying "I could have handled it better." Plus have you seen Scheifele's bizarre ranting interviews recently, he's showing off that he's exactly the kind of guy to bully young players.
The Coach, Captain, and Assistants are the government of the team. They have all of the power, and they will of course band together to protect that power and eachother. Buff, Trouba, Myers, and Roslovic have also made comments about toxic attitudes of the trio of PoMo-Wheeler-Scheifele. It wasn't just Laine.
You are on crack sir, next thing you're gonna say is Evander Kane was bullied out by Byfuglien, Liane clearly wanted out of winnipeg cuz he wasn't on the 1st line, not sure why he thought he deserved it over Wheeler, Sheiffle, and Connor
I have some insight on the situation that leads me to believe that the biggest losers here will be Mark Scheifele and Cam Atkinson.
I remember from last year that Tortorella wasn't fired or released, his contract was up and he didn't want to sign another one. In fact he felt that his message had grown stale going into the pandemic break.
So the big thing was Tortorella didn't want to be coach the year Columbus got Laine. Torts had tried to step down from his job after the bubble playoffs, set on retirement. However Nick Foligno, Cam Atkinson, and Seth Jones conspired together to coerce and basically guilt trip Tortorella into returning for the last year of his contract.
Those three were Tortorella's biggest supporters in the locker room, and Jones and Atkinson wielded a lot of power through Tortorella. Similar to Scheifele and Wheeler and their dynamic with Paul Maurice.
There's whispers that Dubois's issues weren't with Tortorella specifically, but with the leadership. Especially Atkinson and Jones. During the lead up to the trade, Atkinson gave false information to major insiders saying that Dubois was just "selfish" and wanted to be a star in "a big market."
After the trade, Atkinson took a near instant dislike to Laine and often made up reasons to the media why Laine was at odds with Tortorella, often leaning into the "lazy Laine" talk. Many of his claims were inadvertently countered by Tortorella who was often perplexed where the media got these narratives, not realizing they came from one of his favourite players.
There are some archived reddit posts from around that time where some Blue Jackets fans claim that Atkinson was telling people in public that management was looking to trade Laine. From this, some infer that Atkinson fed the same rumours to insiders, just like he did with Dubois.
After Foligno was traded, nobody on the team was able to stop Tortorella from leaving. This led to Seth Jones' sudden reversal of an earlier claim that he wanted to sign long term in Columbus, and his new declaration that he wanted to go elsewhere. With most of the leadership gone, Atkinson made statements to fans in public where he suggested he would be the next captain.
However Atkinson had lost all of his allies, and management unceremoniously flipped him to the Flyers for Voracek (who is now a close friend of Laine's). While initially shocking, those in the know have let slip that Atkinson's trade was the result of him being a leak in the locker room, trying to consolidate power, and being toxic to some of his teammates. He notoriously didn't attend Matiss Kivlenieks funeral, doesn't want to talk about his trade, and Columbus has already reassigned his number to a rookie.
I see many similarities between what happened to Atkinson and what's happening to Scheifele now. If Scheifele faces a similar fate to Atkinson this summer, it will be a strange mirror for Laine and Dubois.
Where the former 2nd and 3rd picks from 2016 were not able to defeat toxic power structures on their original teams, the trade has forced the two front offices to confront problems with the leadership that could no longer be ignored.
I am a Blue Jacket fan in Columbus. I do not know where you got your insight, but Torts was gone after his final year because the Jackets had a terrible season and Torts had not only lost the locker room, but he could not adapt his coaching style to a team with different talents. I never heard Seth Jones state that he wanted to stay in Columbus. All top-level Jacket players, and really, _all_ top-level NHL players have never had any interest in playing in Columbus. In fact, the Jackets president, John Davidson, tried to get out. The same thing is true with Columbus lookalikes, Buffalo and Ottawa. These are not "preferred franchises" in the eyes of NHL players. If Laine stays healthy and has two or three really productive seasons of 30+ goals, we'll see if he wants to stay in Columbus. My guess is that Carolina, New York or Vegas will suddenly beckon and despite Columbus actually offering more money, he will pack his bags.
Wow must be cold in the Peg if you care that much about hockey politics.
This is not only the downfall of Laine but of the Jets. Something happened within that organization around the time Dustin Byfuglien "retired". Its clear theres something up, seeing as Paul Maurice quit on the and rumors Scheifele and Wheeler aren't happy.
It really sucks how Blake wheeler and Mark scheifele treated him like shit I don't blame him for leaving Winnipeg for that and I wish him the best with the Columbus blue jackets
How is demanding he play some damn defense 'treating him like shit'? the guy is a selfish teammate who doesn't take the game seriously
@@rossrobertson674 they held him back he felt like he had first-line minutes and they kept on doing gatekeeping shit that's being selfish I'd rather play with him over Blake wheeler or Mark scheifele any day
@rangerzallday good Winnipeg doesn't need his gatekeeping ass
@@rileykazama3145 but he didn't deserve first line minutes, he was beat out by Kyle Connor and as we can see by the 46 or 47 goals he had this year the jets made the right choice
@@rileykazama3145 u may be R worded if you'd rather play with a hog than 2 player who set up goal scorers, but go ahead and play with Laine, you'll never get the puck and you'll constantly be back checking the turnover Laine caused
As a CBJ fan this was a great watch. It gave me a lot of background on Laine's early career. Also thanks for being kind in regards to our team. I hope PLD is thriving for you guys as he was my favorite player before the trade. Keep up the good work and awesome content!
People laugh at the comparison between Matthews and Laine, but for the first 2 seasons it was very much not a settled matter.
I think both teams made out well. Laine was slumping and after losing Buff, Winnipeg needed a power forward more than a one trick pony (who admittedly is possibly the best in the league at that trick).
Wheeler is a pussy and so is his boyfriend Scheifele
Seems like a good trade so far, Patrik and Pierre both stepped it up this year after a terrible start after the trade, if Liane had half the heart Ovi does he'd be scoring 50 a year like Ovi and Mattews
@@celticstephenhill that's how I looked at it, I hated losing Liane but we really needed a bigger center like Lowry with skills like Schieffle
Best center laine played with so far, paul stastny, 44 goals and they went to conference finals. then jets didnt wanna sign stastny and then laine left... also rumors where wheeler and scheifele bullied him
Considering scheifele’s known for it i wouldn’t be surprised if he was a pos to laine out of jealousy
Wheeler was asked point blank about whether he mistreated Laine and he didn't deny it, just said "I could have handled it better."
Scheifele refuses to answer questions about it, but the way he's been acting in interviews lately is essentially showing the claims were true.
@@LieuFang all that meant was that Liane was a sensitive little baby boy and Wheeler was saying he should've treated him as the baby he is, pressure makes diamonds and Liane is proving he is coal, Kane 2.0
These are grown men, what is this bullying BS, they aren't children, this is professional sports not high school, grow up or get out, Liane chose to get out
@@rossrobertson674 I can't tell if you're actually some dense Wheeler fanboy, or somebody trying to troll.
It's a bit of a toss up because you can't spell even half of the player's names. Oh well, if you're a troll you don't matter, and if you're a Wheeler fanboy you can just follow him to whatever team Chevy dumps him on.
Great Vids. Really enjoy them!👍🏿
Best part of this video is seeing Teemu in a jets jersey again
You should do more of these for players across the league. Their arent many people summing up players' careers in this fashion on youtube. I know your channel is based on the Jets but these kinds of videos could gain a bit of traction if you appeal to wider bases. The editing is good, the backstory and scrip are good and the clips along with the statistics are good too. If you're able to, would be cool to see more of these. Maybe a bit more of a what could have been outlook. Maybe a look into his production in Columbus, how he could have worked on the first line, contract situations, and personal opinions on the future if he stayed, how the outlook on their playoff picture might have looked if he was still there, etc... The summary is nice, but add a bit to it. Perhaps the "What happened to....." series? "What could have been...." and ect... As a Sens fan, I've always wondered what could have been for the Stones, Hoffman, Karlsson teams, and stuff? Whether you do or not, this video was great. Appreciate the effort. I do think youve got a nice little hole in the NHL UA-cam market to fill, if you wanted obviously.
Starting with Tim friggin Connolly!
Laine should have been used like Ovechkin is used. He would pound in all kinds of goals that way. Big Buff was the greatest asset on the team.
Maurice didn't want to upset Scheifele and Wheeler
the Jackets have tried to use him like that and he misses so much more than Ovechkin does
Yeah...I miss seeing people bounce off Big Buff like sacks of potatoes.
@@Pijonty He misses a team around him like Ovechkin has.
Ovi learned to backcheck and play as a team, Liane couldn't and never will, if Liane had half the heart Ovi does he'd be scoring 50 or 60 like Matthews
Imagine if Gretzky had coaches as short sighted Maurice and Torts. “We need Wayne to be a complete player.” What a joke.
He had Kurri to Back him up in defence
I liked it but wish there was more about the “what could have been”. That was more of just a recap of laines career in Winnipeg then a “what could have been” video..
Than* How do native speakers do this mistake so often?
@@Omit1tulliportin when did ye mean to say than?
@@boomer9560 when he said then...
@@Omit1tulliportin simple grammar mistake
@@Omit1tulliportin nobody cares, especially on a UA-cam video. Native speakers know exactly what he means so we don’t care about the technical semantics
Patrik Laine has grown so much as a human being, he's matured. I like the direction Patrik is going. All the struggles on ice have benefited him in the end, he seems much more humble and balanced.
During last two weeks, he has attended and/or hosted five charity events in Finland to raise money for underprivileged children. And he never made any fuzz about himself, just the contrary.
Pat and Sasha (Barkov) are really good friends and they're both such classy guys.
Are you finnish?
@@TerryFGM Yep, a Finn here. Please don't hold it against me... 😃
Laine needs a good Center to score goals. Barkov, Hintz or Aho will play with him at the olympics/world cup. Then you will see something magical.
Even Granlund would be fine.
McDavid / Draisaitl would make him a perennial 50 goal scorer
Or a right wing like kucherov who dishes gor him day in day out
Bro Laine is 24. This dramatic title sounds like he passed away lmao
Laine never had a winning center apart from Statsny.
Yeah, and early 16-17 when he had Scheifele. Also that was the case long stretches on 20-21, but something was a bit off with Scheifele for the season. After all, maybe those talks about Scheifele hating Laine for some reason just weren't just rumors.
Statsny's intelligence on the ice is often overlooked.
Laine will be back in some way or another... That shot is just so unique that it's not hard to see him compete with the other top goal scorers.
yeah dude. this season was his most effective on points per even though he suffered from injuries and the his fathers untimely death. he keeps growing into a much more complete player and wants to stay in columbus and help make the team better anyway he can.
Edit: and with all the pressure he has had to face from the fans and media in NA and here in Finland. If i had to face the same i wouldve propably walked into a lake with a weighted vest
I was in town at that Jets game and brought my grandpa who's a big Jets fan. I wore my Leafs jersey and listened to obnoxious fans scream "LAINE'S BETTER!".
Hey they had their moment that day and good for them. However I LOVE seeing how it all ended up.
Could you imagine if the Jets ended up with Matthews?
"But but, how can we compare him to the old Jets?!? Remember Teemu? Remember the WHA?"
how do you get to show the laine clips without getting nailed for copywrite? anything past 2 seconds youtube flags me
8:49
not getting along with them because they're 2 of the most toxic people in the league, they just happen to play together lol
The way the Jets did this year , Laine should send them a "thank-you" note for trading him.
Columbus didn’t do to well either
@@mason2870 They did about the same but they're headed in opposite directions. Columbus way outperformed expectations. Finishing 10th in the meat grinder that is the eastern conference, after they were expected to be bottom 5. They did that as the youngest roster, without their best scorer for 24 games, their starting goalie suffering from PTSD over the death of his friend, and their backup playing with torn hip flexors. They also have the 6th and 12th picks to go with Kent Johnson and Cole Sillinger.
Essentially, the Jets are heading into a needed retool (especially after Scheifele's weird ranting during the last game) and the Jackets are coming out of one.
Winnipeg missed the playoffs cuz they had so many OT losses combined with losing games in the last few minutes and not even getting to OT, plus the central division might have been the hardest division this year, Colorado, St.Louis, Nashville, Dallas, Minnesota
@@LieuFang you made a lot of excuses to justify optimism in that post there. Both teams underperformed from where they both hoped to be. To say one player is happy to be away from their previous situation is pointless, they’re both in the same spot and the excuses both sides can claim (like yourself there) mean nothing to the players. I’d guarantee they’d all like to be playing hockey in may right now
@@mason2870 Please link me to one article or prediction guide that had Columbus doing better than they did this year?
I think the best use and fit for Laine would be some team that has defesively responsible first line center who can also set up for him. I don't think Laine is supplementary scoring, but something you need to build around. That's not really an upside for the player. I'd rather have player I can fit in to many roles and they'd bring an upside. Not something hard to fit and that requires certain conditions to flourish. But I do think that if those conditions are met Laine is absolutely fantastic piece in that and not all players can be built around either.
Patrik Laine was scoring goals like it was nothing to him. He had the best shot in the NHL hands down. He was scoring like the way Matthews is scoring now....1 goal per game pace and looked like he could put up 70 goals a year. Then something strange happened. I don't know if it was the concussion when he got laid out by Jake McCabe in Buffalo, or another injury....but something happened where it's like his mind changed...his game slowed down, his thinking became foggy, all his decisions were bad, and he couldn't even score anymore. He's still young and he could find his game back and put up 50 a year for the next 10 years, but just recalling what he was like in the beginning....that dude was the scariest goal scorer the NHL had seen. I think a good story can also be made for Jesse Puljujarvi (I thought he was going to be just as good or even better) and Alexander Nylander....how the hell did not become a superstar....this guy was just as good or in some ways better than his brother William Nylander.
What happened is the same thing that happened to fellow countryman, Teemu Selanne ... opposing coaching figuring out that he basically only had one spot that he shot from, the top of either blue circle. So they prevented him to doing so. It took Selanne time to realize that (only after arriving in Anaheim) and getting a great passer who was great at opening up space for him. Same needs to be for Lain in Columbus/wherever.
@@independentaquaman7424 I think vorácek was good thing for laine😀next season will be good season to laine.He will do more than 40 Goals.
@@independentaquaman7424 what do you mean selanne is a legend! Selanne is a Hall of famer and considered one of the greatest european players ever - laine is not close at all. Laine had the potential to have a stamkos or even malkin level status. He was even compared to ovechkin. The guy is not competitive. He is too soft and immature for the NHL. He plays video games and lives and eats like a child, not a professional. He admitted to being home sick and was shocked at the north american style of coaching. He is a bust for sure. At this point, he is a bigger disappointment that taylor hall. Maybe he can turn it around, but at this point he will probably be a lesser duchene. Maybe he will figure it out later
@@independentaquaman7424 and after anaheim???? He put up 130 points in winnipeg one year....
@@jimmybaldbird3853 Interesting, on one hand I have someone accusing me of being too tough on Laine and on the other I have you accusing me of being too soft on him. LMAO [Oh, the last time FB banned me, about a year ago, was due to my comments AGAINST Laine, though I was polite etc, but some figured my even mentioning something was itself impolite]
I personally figure you're both wrong and choose not to argue with you too. The other extreme dude tired me out. lol
You are a great documentary storyteller!
"Here's number two." That's what I always say at the pottie.
Laine has the vice of being "uncoachable"... best thing for this player is to give him motivational linemates. I don't think he was badly coached... the talent was always there but if your plus minus stinks, you don't deserve first line minutes because you're either failing to backcheck or you're easily demoralized (and you drag down your teammates with a negative attitude). Instead, he can become the best second liner in the league... like Alex Mogilny. Alemo won a cup in Jersey, but he did so on the second line with Gomez because that's where he was best placed.
This is a great vid and I’m a habs fan
Just like Selanne u guys lost a great sniper if it wasn’t for wheeler and scheifele bullying him outta there who knows what happens down the road but I think It was a win win for both sides
He kinda was the face of the team when he was there. Was the only player I knew on that team
Dustin Byfuglien, Ondrej Pavelec, Blake Wheeler, Mark Scheifele?
@@rightthroughthecounterstri3961 I didn’t know much about the jets then but Laine was seen as their best player I’m pretty sure but I know Schiefle and wheeler. Back then all I heard about was Laine and Wheeler
Absolutely criminal that you didn't use Dennis Beyak announce the Laine hat trick goal vs Toronto
1:35 #16 Laurie Boschman. You know that man is tough to have played in the 80's with the name Laurie.
Edmonton got a steal with Puljujarvi yea he had a moment where he wanted out but he came back and has really matured since coming back
hes a bust, theres no way coilers fan consider him a steal LMAOOO absolute delusional fans
@@Bentami okay he’s been playing pretty good lately but I think you are the delusional one
@@ryans413 lmao 'pretty good' after 6 years is not a steal. So many players couldve been in his spot.
I can really only speak for the hawks but 1st round 3rd overall picks are cursed
a steal???😭😭how long has it took him to play decent bro u dont draft high pick players for them to take that long just to be decent
Nice vid
Matthews his a franchise level player, not generational. Not taking anything away from him but he’s not on the level of the Mcdavids, Crosbys, or Ovis. 60 goals is a hell of a season, but Stammer did that a decade ago and he’s a high end franchise player not generational. He’s a high end franchise guy along the lines of Draisaitl, Kane, Mackinnon and the aforementioned Laine when he’s at his best. Not taking anything away from him but the word generational is thrown around too loosely today.
If he stays healthy he’ll be generational. He is maturing by leaps and bounds now with great confidence.
@@JC-sj2pd He’s gonna have to consistently do this a lot. Not a hater in any way, but the term “generational” is thrown around too loosely, it takes a lot to be a once in a generation player. More than just winning a heart trophy or two
Please come to Edmonton lol
Hold up, did you just say he never got his chance on the top line in 2019-2020?
In 2019-2020 Laine played 45 % of the seasons even-strength situations with Scheifele and Connor. Wheeler was tossed out and played only 16,2 % of the season on the 1st line.
Laine was very even in his game on the first line and his longest pointless streak that season was 4 games and on top of that he had 2 x 3 games and 1 x 2 games without points, otherwise he was producing.
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But this season was the first season I saw Laine check ferociously, as well as battle in the corners. He did have quite a few giveaways, which is normal for talented forwards. Laine nevertheless has less giveaways than the likes of Leon Draisaitl (+200 more giveaways since 16-17), Johnny Gaudreau (+200 more giveaways since 16-17), Matt Barzal (+130 giveaways more than Laine despite playing one season less), Pastrnak (+100 more giveaways since 16-17), Huberdeau (+90 more giveaways since 16-17), and so on.
And actually, even Auston Matthews has more giveaways than Laine, but he has more takeaways and more goals, so that can slide.
The truth is, Laine has gotten much more critique about puck management and his "defensive play", than he should have. In reality he is not even in the top 50 most giveaways in the league since 2016-2017.
If he keeps doing what he did this season, he will be a point-per-game player for a long time. But if he wants to crack that 50 goals, he needs to increase his shooting significantly. That's where he should take a page from Matthews book, that guy shoots constantly from anywhere and everywhere. He is always looking to shoot the puck even if it has the smallest chance to go in.
This season Laine shot 167 shots which equalled to 26 goals. Matthews shot 348 shots which equalled to 60 goals. That's 108 % more than Laine. Had Laine shot the same amount, he would have tallied 54 goals. It's one of those things that his head coach is getting gray hair from. Larsen (head coach of Columbus) has said multiple times that he wants Laine to shoot the puck always, it doesn't matter from where. He will never ever get angry if he shoots the puck, but Laine has some mental block he needs to get over.
Anyway, if you read all this you might be as crazy as I am about hockey. So, thanks for reading 🤣
Laine needs to shoot like Ovechkin, from many various locations and NOT many various locations specifically only the top of either blue circle. He's like Selanne's early years.
The thing is Laine is an excellent passer too. It's better for the team to pass the puck than to shoot it from a stupid spot most of the time.
@@topiheimola69 Ok, let's not go to either stupid extreme. Let's instead do what Gretzky did when he was a kid:
Always be the shooter unless the teammate is in a better position to score. [he shared that back then as to why he passed instead of shot when that goal would have had him pass a kid who became a HOF Montreal Canadiens player]
The problem in Laine's case is that many (not all) of the times he passes he should instead shoot. The problem is that he's only comfortable shooting from either blue circle.
also take into account their shooting percentages:
Laine had about a 15.6% on 167 shots
Matthews had about 17.2% on 348 shots
Giveaways per 60 =
Laine = 2.95
Matthews = 1.91
Draisaitl = 2.95
Takeaways per 60 =
Laine = 1.53
Matthews = 3.66
Draisaitl = 2.48
also Laine doesnt take the puck back nearly enough to account for the amount of times he gives it away as compared to the best 2 goal scorers in the NHL
Laine's mental block is being Finnish. Finns tend to shy away from the spotlight :D
He is such a streaky player. Goes on a scoring streak then will go invisible for a number of games
What was the Stastny accusation?
Hard to know what's true and what isn't as a fan. Really have to wonder if it is true that he was bullied or made to feel that way by our leadership in WPG. The first few years of his career seemed to have gone smoothly, then 2019 happened and the whole team seems to have regressed since then. All I know is that I enjoyed watching Laine play and I wish him the best in his career and personal life.
Something was definitely going on in that room. The timeline adds up with Dustin Byfuglien deciding to leave the team for unspecified reasons.
@@nathanviebranz9111 Buf's contract was eventually cancelled and he was then in a position to play for any team in the league...he chose to retire. So it was not a Winnipeg thing, it was a Buff thing. Hockey wasn't so important to him, nor was money evidently. A unique guy who still spends significant time Manitoba ice fishing and enjoying the great outdoors. We know his health was an issue (ankle injury) and his weight was always a bit of a battle. His bank account was full so he pulled the pin.
As a CBJ fan, I definitely see how people could not like him. He plays lazy at times and turns over pucks with no effort. When he's on a heater, yeah it's great and he scores goals but it's SOOOO inconsistent.
Next season will show what kind of player he will be
Lazy skater, who thinks he can just sit and wsit for passes.
Lol ok. Meanwhile Matthew’s is killing it.
I still remember the Leafs playing in Winni and the crowd yelling "LAINES BETTER" ...ARE U SURE ABOUT THAT? lmao
I remember back in 18-19 that a rumor of Patrik Laine being addicted to Fortnite that was also a contributor to his slump that year. Or he was a victim of the EA cover curse, as he was on the NHL 19 cover in Finland, as well as NHL 20. I guess video games and hockey isn't a good combo for Laine.
shame oilers didnt get laine, would been really intresting to see him with mcdavid
...and Bobrovsky and Seth Jones and Saad and Karlsson and Jack Johnson and David Savard....
The bullying from Wheeler and Scheifele contributed to the end of his stay in Winnipeg. Wheeler demanded top line minutes as team captain and even went so far as to have Patrik moved to the opposite side of the powerplay which resulted in a slow down in production. It's a shame what Wheeler, who turned out to be a cancer on the team, put this young man through. Possibly ruining his career.
Laine talk shit about Bryan Little because his lazy ass didn't want to be on the 2nd line, leaders and coaches don't like me-first players no matter how good they are. If he got "bullied" he got held accountable for his laziness and attitude, but how dare Wheeler tell it how it was right? Educate yourself before commenting.
Bryan Little was terrible. The team tried replacing him like 5 times. He didn’t want to be on the second line because he deserved to be in the top line. His production made that abundantly clear. Wheeler threw a tantrum because he thought he deserved top line minutes because of the C on his chest. The team got better and the room got better after he left. I’ve been playing and watching hockey for over 30 years skippy, so shut the fuck up and mind your own business.
@jamieandsherimurphy "He deserved to be on the top line." First of all, just because Laine can shoot like Ovechkin, it doesn't he deserves to be on the top line. The dude was lazy AF and demanded everyone to do everything for him. Wheeler doesn't have the best shot, but unlike Laine, Wheeler gives never takes a shift off and sacrifices for his team. Wheeler and Scheifele don't have time for entitled pricks. And just because you've been watching hockey for 30 years, it doesn't mean you're smart.
In Finland we call him "busti Pate". Bust Pate in english.
Laine is pretty fuckin fast when he has open ice
He’s got his best years ahead and the Jets are in Limbo. The rumours of Wheeler, Scheifele and Dubois have already started as of the recording of this video.
I really love what PLD brings to the Jets and I'll honestly say that he's better to have on your team than Laine...but fuck I miss Laine
Considering Pularvi and how bad he is the jets actually made out much better with Laine despite everything that transpired afterwards.
Pularvi? 😂
Without horrendous management from Jets he could have been the best goal scorer in the league
The Jets management have consistently picked players ahead of their draft projections and have been correct, idk what u want management to do about a guy like Liane who has one move(a big shot) and doesn't back check or play defense
@@rossrobertson674 to give him proper guidance and opportunity to shine. It's very clear that the management in jets ruined his motivation.
@@jii-ro7083 that's exactly what they did, they gave him everything and he couldn't even back check, motivation hahaha that's what the million dollar paycheck is for, management has nothing to do with being the best goal scorer in league, Ovechkin was exactly like Laine until he realized he needs to play a complete game not just at one end of the ice
Matthew’s owns him
@@JC-sj2pd nobody cares?
Schiefele and wheeler basically ran the team and wanted nothing to do with Laine. Laine was traded and now Schiefele and wheeler want out. The problem with all 3 of them is none of them play a 200ft game and coaches have allowed this type of play. Jets should have traded Schiefele instead of Laine.
I think Scheifele now has a problem with Dubois. He's jealous of him. and it's ridiculous.
Can see emptiness in his eyes
I remember when they tried to say Laine was better then Matthews lmao
Lol Laine can’t even hold Austin’s stick
First round
But, but, but... Laine’s better...
Never stops being funny how non-Finns pronounce Finnish names. No hate. Foreign names are hard.
RIP Patrik
Imagine if he ever gets to play with an elite playmaker like Marner
imagine him playing with his buddy barkow💥
elite crybaby playoff choker Marner? Probably pretty badly
@@Bentami bad take bro he led the league in points when he came back from injury and is playing great in this series too.
I’ll never forget the fortnite memes lol
HOW IS HE DOING NOW THIS SEASON ?
Honestly very well, his ppg and being on Columbus.
@@anxietyonline1947 did they make it to playoff
@@chubi143 That's the point, are you slow? He's on a shit team and still putting up numbers.
@@anxietyonline1947 DELUSIONAL FINLAND MAN
This guy was is so talented but if you ask him to play defense.... forget it
Alexander Semin
That Jets "Leadership".
Laughable.
"the accusation of paul stasny"
This time on 60 minutes...
I was at that game vs Toronto when they came back from 4-1, there were these maple leaf fans across the isle from me just talking shit all game, it was so great to watch their faces as the leafs collapsed
And the prize....you get to live in Winnipeg
Pat go to Edmonton there u win 4 lord Stanley hello it a no brainer
I want Patrik Laine back to Jets
To wash jockstraps?
I rather have Dubois TBH
Winnipeg lost that deal , there is no player like Laine in my opinion what Winnipeg got was not bad but he’s no Laine
He's one-dimensional and injury prone
If he wasn’t so lazy in comparison to other players he definitely could’ve been something
Hey, remember when liane said he was better then mathews and should've went first overall lol😆🤣😆🤣
Head case and goal hog, Matthew's is way better and now that he is in Columbus jets fans finally agree
If only the oilers got him instead of his lemon mate….
Remember the Jets fans were chanting Liane better. Ah, no. No he’s not.
Laine claimed to be the first pick yet matty has 100 more point almost and has had a 60 goal season while being rested and missing games with suspension lmao think the leafs got the last laugh on that one
Matthews is better but laine does not have someone like marner making perfect passes for him. Laine also played in toxic enviroment so he would be certainly closer than that if he would played similar enviroment than matthews.
The "Laine's better" chant when playing the Leafs/Matthews is not a good look
Yeah the Stanly cup winning coaches suck. But that lanine. Man have you seen him on fortnite
The jets may have the worst locker room in the league. Wheeler is one of the worst captains in the league and seemingly nobody really loves being in Winnipeg. The management doesn’t help either when you consider they basically bring back the same mediocre team every year without making any big moves whatsoever. This team needs a big change and a full management change, because it’s clearly not working in Winnipeg.
I think the Jets made a mistake trading Laine instead of old man Wheeler. I think Scheifele would have come around to liking Laine without Wheeler around. Now the Jets look like a heartless bunch without a much needed Goalscoring threat to compliment Connor...like Laine.
There is no way Columbus was giving y’all PLD for Blake Wheeler 😂😂
@@d21scott19 Did I say that? I never implied anything about PLD being acquired in this scenario.
Dude was a point a game on a shit team this year lol
I know he still has a lot of potential, but he isn't even comparable to Matthews. Matthews is clearly the better player.
Imagine if the Jets didnt have a completely fucking TOXIC core. Its wild how people can be fans of a team with shit leaders. Ill never understand cheering for a logo and not the people who play the game.
Astros, Blackhawks, Jets are 3 teams off the top of my head that shoul not have any fans and the fans they do have should be judged.
You're clearly a cancel culture guy
I feel like the people who understood hockey the least in Winnipeg, loved him the most. He was fun to watch on the PP, but if you give a guy like him top tier minutes, he'll be setting a league record for minuses in no time.
His shot is almost unmatched in NHL history, but you can tell he doesn't love the game. Winnipeg will always wish the best for the guy, but I hope he can figure out what it is that's been holding him back since joining the league.
Yes I feel like you’re right. But 44 goals is 44 goals isn’t it? Like , he’s still an extremely valuable player cause that shot. The Powerplay is a thing you know.
@@jackb8598 yeah he's absolutely an asset. A very valuable one. One which I'd always want on my team. But there's much more to being a great player than what he's currently got.
@@celticstephenhill hey that totally makes sense.
What have changed???? Now Laine is playing rather poorly and the Jets seems to have found something????
4:02
acquisition, not accusation lol.
Torts needed to be fired back in 2012
Jets almost got matthews
He's still playing. What even is this video. You act like he's dead tf?
Wasn't there a debate on whether this guy should have gone first ?
Guess we know he wasn't worth the 2nd pick !
Could have been a much better player if he had just better work ethic.
Matthews winning the rocket with 60 goals scored is just icing on the cake.
No one knows why they sold him
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