I agree with Ben. What SHOULD be taken into account for MVP (aside from Lamar leading in ALL major stats over Josh) is the fact that Josh and the Bills have only beaten THREE teams with winning records (only 2 of which are in the playoffs). Lamar and the Ravens have beaten EIGHT of the 13 teams in the playoffs (9 teams if you count them beating themselves), including the Bills.
I am with you being with Lamar, but to to keep the information accurate 9-8 is a winning season; Lamar has 7 wins and Josh has 6 or they're 5 and 5 if you don't count teams they beat twice. The stat you gave is teams that have 10 or more wins.
Agree with the list. Thank u Ben. Dan O pushing misleading info- just sad. If Dan wants to compare apples for apples then he should state this as well; Lamar has faced the hardest schedule by facing the hardest defenses as per Mina Kimes Lamar 5th hardest defense Burrow 17th hardest defense Allen 19th hardest defense out of 30 some teams in the league. Allen has played 13/17 games against non playoff teams.
Let's not forget how Lamar Jackson stomped Allen head to head. Lamar Jackson also laid the smack down on the Texans, the same Texans that Josh Allen passing stats were a pitiful 9 completions for 30 attempts!!
The ravens actually gave up more points than the bills did if you remove the game they played against eachother. So Allen actually had to score LESS points. Better defense in that sense than Lamar had.
Wow, I like something Big Ben said after despising his guts for decades bcuz of my Ravens rivalry with the Squeelers!!! It really doesn't matter whether they present Lamar with this ssn MVP bcuz HE HAS BEEN THE BEST IN REG SSN BY LEAPS & BOUNDS. His stats are the receipts but his highlight reels alone are FOOTBALL MAGIC!!! Lamar has not only redefined the game, but he's elevated to a level that's beyond a mere MVP title...NOW GO GET THAT RING and really shut the haters up #FlockYeah
The strength of schedule is what grabbed his attention in that conversation with her. But its sad that it takes someone else to do the work and lay it out for him before he can blink and take his attention away from the media agenda
@@Joshua-sw1dq You are blind to your hypocrisy. Your statement " If lamar didn't deserve it last year" is a logical fallacy because HE DID win it last year. Your crying has made your bed. Lie in it. YOU cannot have it both ways.
@@thesedaze2381 are you sure you understand YOUR own argument? I understand Lamar won it last year, its your statement about "lamar stans" that implies you don't think he should have which brings us back to my comment. If you don't think lamar deserved it last year because his stats weren't good then josh shouldn't win it this year because his stats aren't as good as lamars. If you think Josh should win it this year because of the impact his performance had for his team then that means lamar DID deserve it last year. So once again Josh doesn't win it either year no matter which way you spin it
To be honest Tot TD is something that brought in to account for Lamar’s stats in previous years so it has to be counted but the strength on how they were scored should mean something. Like Tom Brady Qb sneaks were never really counted previously. But when you had Lamar rushing 50yds either untouched or loaded with jukes had to included in his tds but now we have bills fans trying to count Qb sneaks and rush pushes like they are special plays.
@@MrAndyMahomes You started out good but you lost it in the end. Josh Allen had TD runs of 13, 9, 8, 26, 6, and 4 yards. You can't complain of people discounting Lamars runs and then turn around and do the same to Josh!
@@thesedaze2381 for starters that only account s for half of the 12 he got, the rest were obviously sneaks or tush pushes, Lamar doesn’t even sneak anymore because the ravens value their Qb too much to ask him to dive head first into the opp dline with a 300lb line man/fb up his ass.
This MVP talk is getting tired not you guys fault. If Lamar is not MVP this time it's out of pity and hatred.. Period.. Leave it at that and lets win a super bowl. Go Ravens
NFL fans are NFL fans, but I find it funny that the pro Lamar fan/online narrative is often "Josh Allen is great but Lamar was just better" and the Buffalo fan narrative is way more derogatory to Lamar, still calling him a RB etc. I almost never see Baltimore fans say anything actually bad about Allen, but definitely have vice versa towards Jackson.
That’s because a lot of buffalo fans doesn’t like Lamar skin if you from buffalo you know that been posting pictures on twitter of Lamar picking cotton and everything it’s really sad how y’all buffalo fans going out over a MVP vote
@@thesedaze2381 Find an example here and link or quote it of a Ravens fan saying anything derogatory about Allen. Like actually insulting about him as a person or even diminishing his play beyond critiques about QB sneak TDs.
@@timlanigironu No links needed. When Lamar Jackson is called a RB it is a federal offense, yet in this comment thread you called Josh Allen A fullback. Or the ones saying if Josh wins it he did not earn it and it is a pity award. Or the one who plays the race angle.
Do none of these people remember last season? Lamar had fewer stats because he sat out the 4th quarter in a lot of games.. because he played so amazingly.
@thesedaze2381 it's a fact, not an excuse, lol. If he plays 6 fewer quarters, that's 90 minutes less to add to his stats... You have to be the most dense human ever🤦
Now that the game checks have stopped rolling in for Ben it’s nothing but respect. He was a great QB and I hated playing him so often. Cant hate his opinion too much bc my top 5 are exactly the same.
A thing that really annoys me is that Allen took the first snap vs the pats to get his pay check but nobody wants to attribute that loss on him, he took the money he takes the loss. I’ve seen stats showing him 13-3 after the conclusion of wk18
Lamar is clearly the MVP, clueless and low football IQ type analyst like Nick Wright who cannot control his emotions out of jealousy will make false assessment constantly, analysis is erroneous and cannot be trusted. The vault podcast is the way to go. Good job guys.
Last year when Lamars stats were trash Ravens fans cried" It's not abot the stats, it's about the impact and record. This year Josh Allen clearly had the impact and record and now you say look at the stats" hypocrisy. Josh Allen MVP.
I need you all to rip apart Nick Wright's take from First Things First today because he's so upset that we're 10 point favorites over a free falling Steelers team.
Steelers aren't free falling...held Burrow to 19!!! While Tomlin gave them 3 with a crazy 4th down call deep in the Steelers half!!! Their top receiver dropped 5 of 6 targets, unlikely to happen again.
@@MatthewBretton-cu2el 😂😂🤣 🤪 That's hilarious. Didn't y'all take credit for beating the Ravens 18-16 as a great win earlier this year? After the Ravens receivers dropped 3 LITERAL TD passes along with 4 other gimme tosses? You're THAT kind of fan, huh?
@@regitraven2393 not me, I always said the last few wins vs Mr. Jackson were spurious. Dropped passes and FGs are not repeatable and unlikely to happen the future. Thats just what im saying in my comment above. I understand the significance of anomalies vs trends.
For all the time you guys have spent focusing on individual awards this season, I really hope the Ravens do better in the playoffs this year than in years past.
@@thesedaze2381they weren't though... in previous years it was always passing tds with Lamar to bring him down but now all of a sudden it's always total tds
@@thesedaze2381 33 in 7 years is a average of less than 5 a year. He has never gone over rushing TDs in any given year. Try again. Josh has 27 with this year and last combined .
Exactly. That's true integrity, and I respect that. Acho and Orlovsky have no integrity because they both declared Josh Allen the MVP before the season was even over. They've been caught and proven of their hypocrisy about this MVP vote. The so-called "eye test" narrative is the one. Acho stated he prioritizes video over stats for his Josh Allen MVP 6 he valued Head Coach DeMeco Ryan's opinion. Well, DeMeco said in an interview while viewing tape Lamar Jackson jumps off screen and his stats back it up! So clearly, Acho can't be trusted. This is before Acho's current scandalous lawsuit has appeared! Orlovsky has just been fishing and concocting frivolous stats to justify his biased Josh Allen vote.
Last year when Lamars stats were trash Ravens fans cried" It's not abot the stats, it's about the impact and record. This year Josh Allen clearly had the impact and record and now you say look at the stats" hypocrisy. Josh Allen MVP.
@@Notfleu Josh Allen did not throw 20 pics and many people had better stats than Lamar. Ravens fans are trying to flip the script and we are not having it.
Yes the bills win 10 games but against whooooo 😂 ok I will give him his credit against the chiefs and the lions. If you really watched the ravens this season only one game that they got beat and it was against the eagles. All the other games the ravens could have won and it was not Lamar’s fault why they lost.
Every last quarterback listed on Big Ben list has far more pass attempts to date historically than Lamar! Lamar could have competed in passing & likely would have won EVENMORE if the Ravens would have had a viable passing attach.
Watch Ted the all 22. On the int against the Steelers literally EVERYONE was open BUT Bate. Zac and Ricard walk in. The rt flat is open too. It was a bad read plus Bate shouldn’t have stopped. Still on Lamar (my fav player btw) as it shouldn’t have gone to him. Good pocket too. No excuse.
I love Henry. But Henry has almost double the yards of last season. He has the highest average of his career. Is it because he just happened to peak at 31, or is it because the defenses are scared of Lamar. Nobody wants to give Lamar credit... for anything. Lamar Jackson is a goddamn genius on the football field. There is nobody like him. This team wins or loses because of him. And all the players, coaches and fans know it.
Ravens fans want that MVP so bad they can taste it but it won’t mean a thing if Mahomes win a 3rd Super Bowl or if Lamar gets bounced early in the playoffs!
You're either a BOT or needing "more clicks on your lil channel". That makes absolutely no sense and comes across as delusional. No one cares about MVP. He's already had 2 and 1 was the second unanimous in history. We want a SB. And so does he.
@ you missed my point! It don’t matter if he wins it or not! He playing so great that it WONT matter if Mahomes wins a 3rd Super Bowl or if he gets bounced early. They’ll say great season but like always he can’t get it done but I hope he break through this playoffs because I’m getting tired of watching reruns 😂
It'll still be awesome. Superbowls will come. If lamar gets 3 mvps that's literally all time great. All that's needed at that time is 1 superbowl and he's top 10 all time.
Lamar is not the best player on his team and y'all knows this y'all didn't even think the bills was going to be contenders this year because they had no pro players ravens has 9 ppl going to the pro bowl how many dies the bills have just 1 other than Allen so what are we talking about please stop it
The bills were projected to be a 10 win team before the season started.. so Josh isn't playing with scrubs.. people may have thought he didn't have any help at first but that's just not been the case
Allen is the best!! LJ not going to win SB with Ravens because it is cold and chilly and he will play on the road in Buffalo and KC.. maybe King Henry can help him tremendously to help LJ win but LJ hasn’t show anything in the playoff and you guys are ranking based on stats which is based on team with already well trained orchestra. LJ’s 2024-25 is remarkable but most will remember another PO failure for LJ.. Allen Burrow are the only two QB who can challenge KC in the playoff and if LJ in Bills uniform he is not even mentioned with those 3 top QBs So yes LJ can build the much stats as possible with best rosters but he is not good as other 3 QBs.. yes again keep talking about the stats
Dude what are you smoking? Lamar makes it looks so easy that you judge him on a different scale. In a sorry division who did Buffalo beat other than KC & LIONS that had a winning record. In the 7 years that they have been in the league Burrow, Allen, Mayfield who had a better winning percentage than Lamar. Who has one the most games.. Allen as 1 good year winning amd you guys go crazy.. are you all even watching football or are you watching what you want to and saying what you wish?
The fact that Allen is even in the conversation is laughable even Burrow was better than Allen. As far as Bills fans trying to say ohh it’s because of Henry shows stupidity. This is the 2nd best season in Henry’s entire career at 31 years old and his best season in 4 years so don’t get it twisted LAMAR made Henry better like he does everyone around him. This false Allen narrative is created by desperate Bills fans who’ve spent a lifetime never winning anything. Let’s also not forget Allen plays in the AFC Least and had a softer schedule. Lamar destroyed Allen statistically in every category except rushing TD’s so Lamar is MVP there is no question.
I agree with Ben. What SHOULD be taken into account for MVP (aside from Lamar leading in ALL major stats over Josh) is the fact that Josh and the Bills have only beaten THREE teams with winning records (only 2 of which are in the playoffs). Lamar and the Ravens have beaten EIGHT of the 13 teams in the playoffs (9 teams if you count them beating themselves), including the Bills.
Preach
That sums it up for ppl on the fence...
Amen
I am with you being with Lamar, but to to keep the information accurate 9-8 is a winning season; Lamar has 7 wins and Josh has 6 or they're 5 and 5 if you don't count teams they beat twice. The stat you gave is teams that have 10 or more wins.
Who made history? That what matters
Allen had one hell of a season. But Lamar has just been magic.
Josh Allen qb sneak mvp candidate 😂
@@breonmitchell2443 and most teams can’t even rush 1/2 yard at goal line lol..😆
Allen got spanked by Lamar don’t forget Allen didn’t even score a touchdown
@@breonmitchell2443 Yes, we saw the sneak TD's from 13, 9, 8, 26, 6, and 4 yards.
Agree with the list. Thank u Ben.
Dan O pushing misleading info- just sad.
If Dan wants to compare apples for apples then he should state this as well;
Lamar has faced the hardest schedule by facing the hardest defenses as per Mina Kimes
Lamar 5th hardest defense
Burrow 17th hardest defense
Allen 19th hardest defense out of 30 some teams in the league.
Allen has played 13/17 games against non playoff teams.
Let's not forget how Lamar Jackson stomped Allen head to head. Lamar Jackson also laid the smack down on the Texans, the same Texans that Josh Allen passing stats were a pitiful 9 completions for 30 attempts!!
Imagine if Lamar was 9/30😭😂 in a game
The ravens actually gave up more points than the bills did if you remove the game they played against eachother. So Allen actually had to score LESS points. Better defense in that sense than Lamar had.
Wow, I like something Big Ben said after despising his guts for decades bcuz of my Ravens rivalry with the Squeelers!!! It really doesn't matter whether they present Lamar with this ssn MVP bcuz HE HAS BEEN THE BEST IN REG SSN BY LEAPS & BOUNDS. His stats are the receipts but his highlight reels alone are FOOTBALL MAGIC!!! Lamar has not only redefined the game, but he's elevated to a level that's beyond a mere MVP title...NOW GO GET THAT RING and really shut the haters up #FlockYeah
Dominique got switched from Josh to Lamar Jackson when he was on with Mina Kimes. It was her who broke the stats and facs down in front of him.
The strength of schedule is what grabbed his attention in that conversation with her.
But its sad that it takes someone else to do the work and lay it out for him before he can blink and take his attention away from the media agenda
Yet last year when Lamars stats were trash we heard all the Lamar stans cry "It's not about the stats, it's about the Impact and record".
@@thesedaze2381 so if lamar didn't deserve it last year then josh doesn't this year 🤷 which is it? Because josh doesn't win either year
@@Joshua-sw1dq You are blind to your hypocrisy. Your statement " If lamar didn't deserve it last year" is a logical fallacy because HE DID win it last year. Your crying has made your bed. Lie in it. YOU cannot have it both ways.
@@thesedaze2381 are you sure you understand YOUR own argument? I understand Lamar won it last year, its your statement about "lamar stans" that implies you don't think he should have which brings us back to my comment. If you don't think lamar deserved it last year because his stats weren't good then josh shouldn't win it this year because his stats aren't as good as lamars. If you think Josh should win it this year because of the impact his performance had for his team then that means lamar DID deserve it last year.
So once again Josh doesn't win it either year no matter which way you spin it
Big Ben saying that a Raven QB should be an MVP should say it all. I mean, we broke his nose.
3 lies / or skewing truths to support josh:
1. Caught a td
(pitch is not a pass)
2. Arm punt (tf)
3. Total td's.(what happened to passing tds????)
To be honest Tot TD is something that brought in to account for Lamar’s stats in previous years so it has to be counted but the strength on how they were scored should mean something. Like Tom Brady Qb sneaks were never really counted previously. But when you had Lamar rushing 50yds either untouched or loaded with jukes had to included in his tds but now we have bills fans trying to count Qb sneaks and rush pushes like they are special plays.
@@MrAndyMahomes You started out good but you lost it in the end. Josh Allen had TD runs of 13, 9, 8, 26, 6, and 4 yards. You can't complain of people discounting Lamars runs and then turn around and do the same to Josh!
@@thesedaze2381 for starters that only account s for half of the 12 he got, the rest were obviously sneaks or tush pushes, Lamar doesn’t even sneak anymore because the ravens value their Qb too much to ask him to dive head first into the opp dline with a 300lb line man/fb up his ass.
This MVP talk is getting tired not you guys fault. If Lamar is not MVP this time it's out of pity and hatred.. Period.. Leave it at that and lets win a super bowl. Go Ravens
@@toomyconne768 👍🏿🎯💯
Great Points Sarah!!! 👍
I value more what Ben says over Dan O. Lamar is the MVP according to many players who face him. Josh and Mahomes get refs assist as well.
Its just white vs black
@@jamesjones-g3d If it is just white vs black how did Lamar win twice?
As long as Lamar is at # 1 I have no issue with that list
NFL fans are NFL fans, but I find it funny that the pro Lamar fan/online narrative is often "Josh Allen is great but Lamar was just better" and the Buffalo fan narrative is way more derogatory to Lamar, still calling him a RB etc. I almost never see Baltimore fans say anything actually bad about Allen, but definitely have vice versa towards Jackson.
That’s because a lot of buffalo fans doesn’t like Lamar skin if you from buffalo you know that been posting pictures on twitter of Lamar picking cotton and everything it’s really sad how y’all buffalo fans going out over a MVP vote
The truth is the opposite of what you say. The derogatory takes from Ravens fans is apparent throughout the comment sections.
@@thesedaze2381 Find an example here and link or quote it of a Ravens fan saying anything derogatory about Allen. Like actually insulting about him as a person or even diminishing his play beyond critiques about QB sneak TDs.
@@timlanigironu No links needed. When Lamar Jackson is called a RB it is a federal offense, yet in this comment thread you called Josh Allen A fullback. Or the ones saying if Josh wins it he did not earn it and it is a pity award. Or the one who plays the race angle.
Do none of these people remember last season? Lamar had fewer stats because he sat out the 4th quarter in a lot of games.. because he played so amazingly.
Lol they won’t bing this up and he literally didn’t play last game last year😭😭😂
TD's is not a sat out 4th quarter statistic. He had 15 fewer than the leader. We are tired of the excuses.
@thesedaze2381 it's a fact, not an excuse, lol. If he plays 6 fewer quarters, that's 90 minutes less to add to his stats... You have to be the most dense human ever🤦
@@thesedaze2381why are you even over here? Shouldn't you be on a Bills podcast? You will never win an argument over here!
I'm taking Justin Herbert out at 7 and adding Jayen Daniels
That’s not a bad call!
Big Ben with 2 Afc North QB's as his #1 & #2. This makes sense.
The stat that is so amazing is that Lamar throws over 400 passes this season and only has 4 interception
Yes, but he put that rock on the ground 10 times, losing it 5 times.
Solve the blitz and go get a chip 🏆
Now that the game checks have stopped rolling in for Ben it’s nothing but respect. He was a great QB and I hated playing him so often. Cant hate his opinion too much bc my top 5 are exactly the same.
So if a team gets to the 1 yd line 6 times and score on 6 sneaks that's a great feat?
Philly and Buffalo!!!🤬
Yes, you said gets to the 1yard line. They did not transport there like star trek. They completed passes and ran for yards to get to the 1 yard line.
@@thesedaze2381 key word...team...they
@@silverbackgorilla6728 Perhaps you missed the TD runs of 8, 9, 26. 13, 4, and 6 yards.
@@thesedaze2381 were they all in that game? I guess I did miss them.
A thing that really annoys me is that Allen took the first snap vs the pats to get his pay check but nobody wants to attribute that loss on him, he took the money he takes the loss. I’ve seen stats showing him 13-3 after the conclusion of wk18
Wasn’t Lamar’s choice to not play… lol
Lamar is clearly the MVP, clueless and low football IQ type analyst like Nick Wright who cannot control his emotions out of jealousy will make false assessment constantly, analysis is erroneous and cannot be trusted. The vault podcast is the way to go. Good job guys.
Last year when Lamars stats were trash Ravens fans cried" It's not abot the stats, it's about the impact and record. This year Josh Allen clearly had the impact and record and now you say look at the stats" hypocrisy. Josh Allen MVP.
Superbowl MVP is what really matters. 😊
It all matters.
@ not to the Chiefs.
💍💍💍
I need you all to rip apart Nick Wright's take from First Things First today because he's so upset that we're 10 point favorites over a free falling Steelers team.
That is the least we can do as fans.
Oh he was IRATE 🤣🤣🤣
Steelers aren't free falling...held Burrow to 19!!! While Tomlin gave them 3 with a crazy 4th down call deep in the Steelers half!!!
Their top receiver dropped 5 of 6 targets, unlikely to happen again.
@@MatthewBretton-cu2el
😂😂🤣 🤪
That's hilarious. Didn't y'all take credit for beating the Ravens 18-16 as a great win earlier this year? After the Ravens receivers dropped 3 LITERAL TD passes along with 4 other gimme tosses? You're THAT kind of fan, huh?
@@regitraven2393 not me, I always said the last few wins vs Mr. Jackson were spurious. Dropped passes and FGs are not repeatable and unlikely to happen the future. Thats just what im saying in my comment above. I understand the significance of anomalies vs trends.
Wow. Never thought I'd ever completely agree with Ben Roethlisberger. His Top 7 QBs this season is on point.
He didn’t throw for 40 tds tho lol
For all the time you guys have spent focusing on individual awards this season, I really hope the Ravens do better in the playoffs this year than in years past.
@@BobG-pi8bb
BOTTOM LINE 👍🏿🎯💯
Hope the coaches do. RUN THE BALL!!! 3 playoff losses because the coaches decided to call 6 or less running plays.
@regitraven2393 not bottom line. Unless these other qbs have the same standard.
Jayden Daniels had a was better than Herbert and Mahomes
Give Lamar the jets, patriots, and dolphins twice a year, Lamar will be MVP favorite by a milestone
Last 9 games against these teams Ravens are 5-4. Your arrogance is severly misplaced.
Does anybody know how many minutes they both sat for? Can’t find it
Let us know.
He hasnt theown for 40 there counting total TDs. This year he has 28 passing and 12 rushing and last year he had 15 rushing
No complaining about rushing TD's when the 33 that Lamar has have always been part of the calculation.
@@thesedaze2381they weren't though... in previous years it was always passing tds with Lamar to bring him down but now all of a sudden it's always total tds
@@Notfleu JUST STOP IT. He won it last year without the passing TD's stop with the victim mentality. How can you be a victim when he WON IT?
@ I mean it's a fact the graphics they show are completely different depending on the player
@@thesedaze2381 33 in 7 years is a average of less than 5 a year. He has never gone over rushing TDs in any given year. Try again. Josh has 27 with this year and last combined .
I've never hated Ben, but I have to hate him in my words while he was playing 😂
Impressive enough for MVP
Wow!!!! I can't disagree ( THIS YEAR ONLY ) Ben is on point. My ranking would be the same.
At least he ain't lying and being biased like most of these dudes on TV and voters.
Exactly. That's true integrity, and I respect that. Acho and Orlovsky have no integrity because they both declared Josh Allen the MVP before the season was even over. They've been caught and proven of their hypocrisy about this MVP vote. The so-called "eye test" narrative is the one. Acho stated he prioritizes video over stats for his Josh Allen MVP 6 he valued Head Coach DeMeco Ryan's opinion. Well, DeMeco said in an interview while viewing tape Lamar Jackson jumps off screen and his stats back it up! So clearly, Acho can't be trusted. This is before Acho's current scandalous lawsuit has appeared! Orlovsky has just been fishing and concocting frivolous stats to justify his biased Josh Allen vote.
3 qb sneaks and a bubble screen
Baker should be in this group. 4500 passing yards and 41 TDs, which has only been accomplished 10 times in the history of the league.
The list can be backed with stats. I know Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen AND Lamar beat them both 😂
Last year when Lamars stats were trash Ravens fans cried" It's not abot the stats, it's about the impact and record. This year Josh Allen clearly had the impact and record and now you say look at the stats" hypocrisy. Josh Allen MVP.
@@thesedaze2381last year was just not a good year for anyone Josh didn't win because he threw 20 pics
@@Notfleu Josh Allen did not throw 20 pics and many people had better stats than Lamar. Ravens fans are trying to flip the script and we are not having it.
Yes the bills win 10 games but against whooooo 😂 ok I will give him his credit against the chiefs and the lions. If you really watched the ravens this season only one game that they got beat and it was against the eagles. All the other games the ravens could have won and it was not Lamar’s fault why they lost.
Tuck cost them 7 points against the eagles
@ exactly
@ but also Lamar had to do more because his defense was not good when they started out the season
Ravens shoulda blew out the eagles tbh
Literally bro. Tuck really disgusting 🤮 if he ain’t miss all them fgs🤦🏾♂️ Lamar would be clear cut landslide MVP it’s wild. He sold so much this year
Every last quarterback listed on Big Ben list has far more pass attempts to date historically than Lamar! Lamar could have competed in passing & likely would have won EVENMORE if the Ravens would have had a viable passing attach.
Look at the attempt to get those yards. Joe Burrow 600+ Josh Allen 483+. Lamar threw less for more yards
I might put Goff over Mahomes, but yeah Roethlisberger nailed it all. And i hope i never have to say that phrase again
Watch Ted the all 22. On the int against the Steelers literally EVERYONE was open BUT Bate. Zac and Ricard walk in. The rt flat is open too. It was a bad read plus Bate shouldn’t have stopped. Still on Lamar (my fav player btw) as it shouldn’t have gone to him. Good pocket too. No excuse.
Where’s Baker Mayfield? He’s above Herbert and Goff
I agree with Ben also
Sarah looks incredibly beautiful ❤️🙏 Had to say it.
Josh has conservative years 40 total TD s rushing and throw not throwing alone.
I agree with him but he is favoring his old division.
I love Henry. But Henry has almost double the yards of last season. He has the highest average of his career. Is it because he just happened to peak at 31, or is it because the defenses are scared of Lamar. Nobody wants to give Lamar credit... for anything. Lamar Jackson is a goddamn genius on the football field. There is nobody like him. This team wins or loses because of him. And all the players, coaches and fans know it.
Or perhaps defenses are scared of Henry so Lamar has the highest average of his career. See how that works.
only 1 guy voted for allen last year for MVP- 1 vote...... i bet a million dollars he does it again this year.... so theres 1 vote already lol
I bet Josh Allen gets enough votes to win MVP
@ based of what I wrote DUH
1 guy voted for him last year 😂 the only guy that didn’t vote for Lamar
BuT tOp Qb iSn’t mVP! - Dan o
I dont think big Ben is a hall of famer
Ben ,go to the blue tent.
Ravens fans want that MVP so bad they can taste it but it won’t mean a thing if Mahomes win a 3rd Super Bowl or if Lamar gets bounced early in the playoffs!
You're either a BOT or needing "more clicks on your lil channel". That makes absolutely no sense and comes across as delusional. No one cares about MVP. He's already had 2 and 1 was the second unanimous in history. We want a SB. And so does he.
@ you missed my point! It don’t matter if he wins it or not! He playing so great that it WONT matter if Mahomes wins a 3rd Super Bowl or if he gets bounced early. They’ll say great season but like always he can’t get it done but I hope he break through this playoffs because I’m getting tired of watching reruns 😂
It'll still be awesome. Superbowls will come. If lamar gets 3 mvps that's literally all time great. All that's needed at that time is 1 superbowl and he's top 10 all time.
Waiting for playoff run@@BLACKSTONEPOET
Lamar is not the best player on his team and y'all knows this y'all didn't even think the bills was going to be contenders this year because they had no pro players ravens has 9 ppl going to the pro bowl how many dies the bills have just 1 other than Allen so what are we talking about please stop it
BOT
What TF are you smoking?
Gotta be a BOT
@@TheRealInconvenientTruth robot kush
The bills were projected to be a 10 win team before the season started.. so Josh isn't playing with scrubs.. people may have thought he didn't have any help at first but that's just not been the case
Allen is the best!!
LJ not going to win SB with Ravens because it is cold and chilly and he will play on the road in Buffalo and KC.. maybe King Henry can help him tremendously to help LJ win but LJ hasn’t show anything in the playoff and you guys are ranking based on stats which is based on team with already well trained orchestra. LJ’s 2024-25 is remarkable but most will remember another PO failure for LJ.. Allen Burrow are the only two QB who can challenge KC in the playoff and if LJ in Bills uniform he is not even mentioned with those 3 top QBs
So yes LJ can build the much stats as possible with best rosters but he is not good as other 3 QBs.. yes again keep talking about the stats
You sound very very mad. Look in the mirror okay. Keep hater
Josh Allen is a fullback. Joe burrow home on couch. LJ8 beat both of them hater. Keep hater
Click bait
Wrong.
Dude what are you smoking? Lamar makes it looks so easy that you judge him on a different scale. In a sorry division who did Buffalo beat other than KC & LIONS that had a winning record. In the 7 years that they have been in the league Burrow, Allen, Mayfield who had a better winning percentage than Lamar. Who has one the most games.. Allen as 1 good year winning amd you guys go crazy.. are you all even watching football or are you watching what you want to and saying what you wish?
The fact that Allen is even in the conversation is laughable even Burrow was better than Allen. As far as Bills fans trying to say ohh it’s because of Henry shows stupidity. This is the 2nd best season in Henry’s entire career at 31 years old and his best season in 4 years so don’t get it twisted LAMAR made Henry better like he does everyone around him. This false Allen narrative is created by desperate Bills fans who’ve spent a lifetime never winning anything. Let’s also not forget Allen plays in the AFC Least and had a softer schedule. Lamar destroyed Allen statistically in every category except rushing TD’s so Lamar is MVP there is no question.
Well give it to the lions QB when have the lions ever been good without barry Sanders....
Literally last year