Chum Kiu actually means "seeking bridge" . A lot of people mistake it for "sinking" bridge, because sinking and seeking is pronounced the same in Cantonese.
I have been training in Wing Chun over the past 7 years and have watched a lot of similar videos but this series by Sifu Jason Korol is by far the best.
I've boxed and learn WC and understand the concepts set forth here. Yes power is utmost importance and isn't stressed in the WC school I'm at. I don't tell anyone at school I can box but learn WC and apply concepts to boxing and street
This is one of the best chum kil videos I’ve ever seen. Love all the points you made. I’m from another lineage of WC (Cheung style) but I was trained in the way you speak of. Realistic approach to applying my WC. Chain punching was a beginners tool. It’s amazing To see videos with WC vs whoever, I see these so-called Master rushing in with chain punches? Of course they get there hearts handed back to them and WC takes another black eye. Love the break down of your WC’s chum kil, makes practical fight sense to me. My stepfather would say “ that’s WC?? It looks like boxing to me” 👿🤬. God rest his soul, but everything he knew about WC was movies and his instructor, who was a black belt in TWD? His instructor never took a WC class? My stepfather held black belts in TWD and Hapkido. Fortunately we touched hands and I explained the Way i was taught, he became very interested and later trained with me. Matter of fact he got hooked on it.
J.E M great input. You’re so right about all that too...so many black eyes for the system. It’s tragic. Anyway, glad you like it and thanks a lot for the input.
Cool, it's about time that someone demonstrated the pragmatic side to WC and not just what they've read in books or seen on videos. Not to mention that WC does have knock out power...
Agreed like my Sifu Adie Gray Mr. Jason gets past the Hollywood movie magic 🐃💩 and gives the actual factual fighting offensive and defensive possibilities of the form. Given the bad representations of WC we need to finally have ambassadors who know wth they're talking about.
@@markmessi9020 you base your comment on what? I’ve hit people from an inch and they became instant believers and that was through an air shield. Prior to WC I boxed, trained full contact and sport karate as well as put my skills to work where it matters, and frankly, as many have found, the afore mentioned had massive flaws. I almost forgot, I also trained and used judo. Personally I found that WC was very practical and useful. I’ve used it to shut down quite few boxers and grapplers who weren’t there to play fair. Anyway, if you met one of the many that teach or train WC as a style, then sure, I concede that you would have a different view. Keep in mind that every ‘art’ has charletons and the more popular the system the more instant experts appear, BJJ has the same issue. As always, you’re welcome to your opinion.
Sifu Jason, thank you so much, from the bottom of my heart, for these form application videos. I've studied martial arts since I was three years old. Dad was a marine, worked law enforcement, and of course a martial artist of various styles including WC. I started with Tang soo do from 87 to 89 at 7-9 yrs old. At 18 dad only taught me sticking hands idea and concept without WC movement. We practiced, once, a slow chi Sao and I was able to actually trap him. I studied, trained, and practiced ever since then to present at 40 years old on my own. It was in my thirties when I found sifu Ip Chun's early video of the sil lim tao and chum kiu forms. After diligent study for about three years, I had my own sil lim tao that was almost good. Never could get all the movements of chum kiu, and could only teach myself through trial and error, with a decent fighting IQ, ways to apply the first form in ways my body agreed to. (6' and a buck 25 to a buck 30 with a 29" waist.) Now that the world has changed, especially out here in CA. Los Angeles , I fear that WC is now the most vital tool for what may soon come: a time when people get desperate in order to provide for their families. My father died in 2017. Afterwards I built my own mook jong and learned a lot from that dummy. I also found that the best source of useful information that wouldn't get me killed were coming from your youtube videos. Then a few days ago I noticed your gift of the form app videos. I realized that these may be the only way now to complete my study and understand WC the best I can without knowing all the 'nuts and bolts', but knowing enough, and confident in my ability to train even better with a bit more IQ to defend myself, home, and Family (my mother). God bless you for this. Thank you for stepping up and showing me what my dad is no longer here to teach me from across the country with having never met me. Keep moving forward in life knowing that many of us, or at least I, will always appreciate you and the Greenville Academy of Martial Arts for giving us real self defense in simple easy to understand videos without all the showing off fluff and stuff. I will do my best to move forward as well. I might even hit the like button.
I've noticed that the good wing chun teachers always show the applications and allow students to get creative as long as they more or less follow the principles. Subscribed, yo.
Good description of the elbow and stance turning after the 9:00 mark, turning the body together, power generation and sinking your stance. Yes a hook is very much like the elbow strike turn. Plus you are also training the rear elbow strike, and combining multiple elbow strikes. Also good discussion of turning with power, but not overcommitting or rotating too far past the target and then getting counterstruck
Loving these video's just started wing chun and was worried I would be learning something with limited applicability but this video definitly proves to me how wrong I was in that thinking. Thanks Sifu Korol
Anyone doing a palm hook be mindful of two things. Hit with the palm heel, and watch out for the rest of your hand. Easy to catch your hand and sprain it if you've never thrown a palm to see how small angles can kind of mess with it. Safer for impact, but potentially less room for error. Hammerfist to the jaw can work well too but opening to make it work is different.
Where you discuss double jum sau in the early chum kiu, our sifu instructs it as double man sau, where you shoot the arms forward to intercept (like the wooden dummy first move). I suppose a combination of forward and sinking force could work. This way you “found a bridge “ just by extending your arm.
You make this so fun ! I'm a true blue Iron Palm and Iron Fist practitioner . Not breaking blocks and bricks at this time . My hands are still being conditioning got about 40 day's in my friend has over 50 yrs of experience in this style that very little or even being taught no school's I can think of . He is very old school at this . My hands are getting strong and bigger . And I think Whig Chun is the ticket for what I'm learning . I was in Tiger Kung Fu but with a injury that still bothers me ACL in my knee this style is I believe is holding me back . At 6ft 293pds and not putting it down but I'm 53 yes old I don't need a kicking art which I wouldn't do in the street's . My trainer said give him one solid year in his I.P./ I.F. will be good enough in the street's in itself . After I learn inner striking but not to many Wing Chun schools near by . But really digging what you wre teaching . I can see this going gery well what I'm training in ....
Sifu Jason. Michael Wong ( a Wing Chun, Tai Chi & JKD Instructor) said it best. "Every one's Wing Chun is defferent". How U apply The Chum Kiu 4 maximum power has helped me tremendously. Thank You 🙏
Nice vid, well after watching tons of martial arts vids in 480p, I have to say this is a breath of fresh air ha ha. Great introduction into the form, thanks. -Cheers
Excellent! You teach how to explore and learn Wing Chun using intelligence. You focus on concepts to go beyond the traditional movements. In this way you find real applications that the pupil can do his own. I would like to be your student...
the nice thing about the elbow is that it's a lot harder and stronger than the hand so it deals more damage than a palm and safer than the fist, when thrown to hard targets
I have watched hours and hours of UA-cam footage in my search for knowledge but this series by sifu Jason is by far the best i have ever seen. I have trained in many martial arts over 34 years and wing chun is where I've settled but watching this has made more sense to me than anything else thank you Sifu
Keeping these videos coming I see. Thank you..I love a variety of sources on WC to cross-compare. I watched Officer Dominick Izzos' demonstrations out of Chicago, IL, and this no none-sense approach is the better way to learn. Even though we still want to preserve the original tradition, and way it was meant to be used, it must still be innovated for practicality.
Awesome lesson. Love your teaching. Thanks for putting the time in. Unfortunately I live in the UK so it would have been nice to come to your club. Excellent video lesson💎💎💎💎💎
These wing chun vids are quite interesting indeed...my martial arts background includes only tae kwon do and shotokan karate (also learned a little bit of jiu jitsu from one of my past instructors). Wish I had learned some chinese martial arts when I was younger....😞
You had me at 'ping! ..ping! ping!" We've all seen that approach. You're right about the need to teach tactical understanding from the start. Your approach does open up this very practical, effective art.
11:15 Vertical fist verses boxing fist. Great point, that's why I don't think vertical fist is really any better, and it's kind of awkward, and it seems like there is less torque at the point of impact, since you can't turn the fist over. Purist at times seems like they are more interested in labeling punches and kicks ect, instead of how to use the most effective way. A punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick, the most important part is where they start and where they end with non-telegraphic movement and the correct timing. It comes down to how they are delivered.
These videos are so good! I've been studying Wing Chun for five years and I get a lot of value from your UA-cam content. Thank you for making them and sharing them! :-)
14:30 LOL. Not only that, look at the head placement. How can power be developed at that speed with the vertical fist if you can turn the fist over just before impact and torque into to it as in a horizontal fist? The vertical fist seems fine with hooks, but so is the horizontal fist.
Sifu Jason! What is Chum kui..? (Second form?) In Europe and locked down so great to find your training vids and loving your structured and logical explanations of technique applications. Just wanted to say thank you for these uploads as it is hard to find real world breakdowns of the form movements and how they should be applied. Was privileged to have been taken to a training session with James DeMale, nearly 20 years ago now! He touched hands with my daughter and was suprised at her balance, (gained from horseriding!) I remember him telling us how he got out of the air force where he was two-time heavyweight boxing champion, and sought out Bruce to spark him out! Bruce asked him how his boxing was and so he started swinging and took three hits if I remember correctly what he recalled before he came to and was accepted as a pupil! Good times! Haven't trained for years but touched hands with a teacher recently and the muscle memory was there still. Thanks to my teacher; Troy, who had us Chi Sau blindfolded, I'm sure he will appreciate your video's as you seem quite alike in both your appearance and the dynamic application of the moves. I always felt he had human magnets in his hands as he would hook you with just his fingers and you were stuck! Good luck and God Bless. X P.S. Thought you'd like this bacon tribute! : ua-cam.com/video/rsFotNkCfSI/v-deo.html
Clive Wells thanks so much for watching and the great input. That’s awesome. And what wonderful memories you have with all that too! I hear stuff like that and it reminds me of how blessed we are to have this great heritage and brotherhood. Anyway, I think you asked what the form was, right? Well, we do have a new video going up soon that’s a summary of it. Basically it’s “bridge seeking form” and it teaches us, among many things, two primary principles. Power generation through structure Gaining control through the bridge/clinch Obviously, footwork and kicking are introduced formally at this point too, so CK is sort of the fighting form built upon the base of Sil Lim Tao. In all, thanks again for the kind words and stay safe over there across the pond. God bless
Love ur sections on the philosophy n techniques, I admire ur out of the box thinking..martial arts is about knowledge n progression...n i find that ur videos help me with my jkd as well..enjoy ur videos and always looking forward to new ones..my problem is I like moving around,is there different techniques in w.c. that could b used as effective as standing still...i am in awe of the technique and philosophy of wing Chung n want to obviously further my studies..so I was just wondering n if you already have a video,please let me knpw
Burton Young great input. We’re gonna do a video on Wing Chun footwork in one of the next couple of CK videos and it’s something we’re passionate about!! Footwork is absolutely the key in fighting. Thanks for watching!
i like out aproach it is similar to my masters here in México City, especially since we live in a violent society we have to adapt some tecniques to our culture, thanks for the video. Saludos
"Bacon"...😂 Nice anecdote ! Loved the video guys and definitely a nice window with a different perspective. Clear and concise, thank you so much for sharing 🙏🏾
Love the breakdown, great communication skills, easy to follow, makes understanding the forms and their application so much easier, im a fan keep up the good work.
I like the video after watching something I didn't like (political). I've heard lan sau was framing people out but it's just absolutely true in the forms that the latter forms show hip and shoulder energy that's just a fact. Sooooo people want to focus on sensitivity for their good reasons that's why they aren't using power to find the cracks and prevent the cracks opening on their side ... But as soon as they learn that which is totally legitimate it's hard to unlearn that and balance that when in my opinion it's clearly seen factually in the forms. I'm not here to argue with anyone but you can't unsee it ... The hip and shoulder power is in the forms. So Wing Chun as time went on got better at some things but it got polarized ... That's just true. So now what do we do to keep it alive? I use other Kung Fu and styles, I really appreciated this video because the power train concepts are what people were always taught it's well expounded on ... You can have more than one concept. But I completely agree with the power train aspects. I also think that's BOTH wing Chun and JKD.
That said I often will keep my hands not in the centerline in free position without contact and move there once I get going with wing Chun as you said ... I've done that a lot. But I also love my hands or at least a hand in the center because I'm not sure if it's rare or wrong or whatever ... I do know it is often very advantageous I am a frequent cross blocker. ... I have some very funky cross blocks. But it's cool. (Don't read the rest of this but if you do) I think cross blocking is much different than other people think I often guard with it in a very diverse way it's detailed. I use a cross pak but I also use a full Shaolin yang style (front shoulder) meatpaw I use cross tan spiral which is different than biu all of them are very detailed as to when why what comes after and how it helps. My favorite gate block for a hook though is to have my elbows outside of theirs and just use inward forearm which you can't do unless your elbows are far back. After that I will use a full meatpaw yang huen kind of big Shaolin block just because it works and it's fine. But the reason people huen afterward it doesn't matter if you huen you need to be away from the second hook. You can do different things. That's why I like bong lap for hooks though too if not using helmet from boxing MMA which is just a tight tan sau really. It's not as obvious as that big yang style Shaolin meaty block. I do not like to stop it at the bicep and hit the body, I will do that but it's sort of a power vs power thing. Might as well just outward forarm block with something that rises high, you have your options ... So you block it with elbow energy. Blocking the bicep is taught and I like it. But I am more afraid to do that than the other ideas and I am just a cross blocker I enjoy that. That takes good care of me often. You can throw your elbow up and in free no contact position block two strikes by cross blockimg then elbow blocking same arm I'm really used to that. In trapping it does not work well, and yet it does because it will eventually come out and you have to learn what to do. So I like my hands in the center or not, doesn't matter, but in the center cross blocks are easy I use cross blocks from either stance. You can't get cross tan spiral or cross biu without hands in center but you can't use much against a tight hook besides a duck or helmet and whatever you want to gamble on, which I do ... I like to gate block. Tight tight hooks are a different story a lot of times you can still use a rising elbow block of your choice or a bong lap ... It's just really really hard so you are doing it for some reward. Back up a tiny bit you can fit your cross blocks in. I agree you can't bong a hook punch you can bong lap though together they act as an inside block, which I would have preferred for a hook the problem is hooks go around and you can't get that shape but there ya go. You also can't pak sau a hook. It's a yin block, but there's not enough power. I am set up to use a different blocking system for cross blocks from Shaolin that resembles a granny or wheel block with kind of wing Chun chain like retrieval ... I have some very funky cross blocks. But it's cool. So Kung Fu is funky. I like that.
Great vid and breakdown of the Wing Chun forms, brilliant job Jason, l trained with Steve Powell In Manchester England at his Chinatown Martial Arts Academy who had trained with Larry Hartsell and Rick Young and the JKD instruction was excellent but we never really concentrated on Wing Chun, it was incorporated in the classes but your explanation of the connection with JKD is really appreciated. We did the trapping element , Kali/ Silat and Hubud which l suppose is similar, once again pure respect to you.
Great explanation of a form.. I’d like to see it applied under pressure, sparring against an aggressive opponent who is trying to hit you..not feeding possibilities..
Hi Sifu Jason - big fan of the series and channel (I have liked and subscribed .. karma tick box checked!). I'm hoping to learn Wing Chun your way, however I'm in the North of the UK. Do you know anyone who you could recommend?
Daniel St Clair thanks so much! Glad you’re liking the stuff. Unfortunately, we don’t have an affiliate over there yet. Sorry about that. We’ve got some distance learning options that we’ll be posting soon, so maybe that can help. Stay tuned!
Ok guys, thought I'd leave a comment to say thanks for all your time and the explanation of the forms. Wishing you well in these strange times and hope it hasn't disrupted your training too badly. I've been watching a number of sites that go into the internal power aspect of wing chun and found them very educational, especially the later teachings of Chu Shong Tin who was crowned the 'King' of Sil Lim Tao by his teacher Ip Man. He was told to do the form with no force and practiced that religiously and found he developed great power effortlessly. Sounds too good to be true but I have heard and seen how he could play around with much bigger people, even as an old man when he said his power was diminishing. I'm not sure how he would have coped with your explosive wing chun but he was almost untouchable when Chi Sauing and would practice with each pupil for hours after lessons. Just wondered If you've looked into it yourself and what you think of this energy concept/application? X
It would be cool if Sifu Phu of Enter Shaolin and you guys could do a joint video. Or maybe Dominick Izzo. Or Benny Meng. Cooperation of schools. It's great that Sifu Jason can see how Bruce looked at boxing and implemented it onto JKD.
Aminul Hussain no. We get asked that quite a bit. Of course, I’ve read quite a bit of WSL’s ideas (great books from David Peterson) and I’m a big fan of his combat philosophy. That said, I think some valid combat principles are objectively true regardless of lineage, hence our similarity. Anyway, thanks for the question and for watching.
This is a recovery form is it not, when in the losing position? Thanks for sharing just have a few ideas on this subject also. Bridging the gap or seeking it, better to learn to take it, occupy it, control it, similar to a battle in a war. If all else fails (last resort) then blow it up; similar to what is called limb destruction. Walking the bridge, attacking or controlling up along the arm starting at the wrist. Each section being a target or a handle used as a vantage (reference) point along the bridge used for paving the way for other techniques. Here are some related terminology to this topic with Juypting, hope this is O.K? Bridges & Bridging Bridge = kiu4 AKA forearm Bridge Idea = kiu4 kiu2 Beam = loeng4 Bridge = kiu4 loeng4 Killing Bridge = saat1 kiu4 Bridge Arm = kiu4 sau2 Short Bridge = dyun2 kiu4 Build Bridge = daap3 kiu4 Temporary Bridge = bin6 kiu4 Shovelling Bridge = caan2 kiu4 To Jump Off A Bridge = tiu3 kiu4 Hitting Three Stars = daa2 saam1 sing1 Conditioning the three sides of the forearms by repeatedly striking them usually with a partner in a training drill. Sinking Elbow Forearm Block = zam2 zaang1 sau2 Walk The Bridge = zau2 kiu4 AKA moving up the opponents arm in stages Distance To The Bridge = kiu4 lei5 Pressing Bridge = aat3 kiu4 Long Bridge = coeng4 kiu4 Stack Plam Sinking Bridge = deoi1 zoeng2 cam4 kiu4 Seeking or Sinking Bridge = cam4 kiu4 As Wing Chun is concept based then practicing with a few of them in mind is to my way of thinking staying on track♡ If my comments here are considered to be inappropriate then let me know and I will refrain from doing anything else like is again♡ As Wing Chun concepts is one of my specialities and the other is sharing them♡
My question is... How you close the distance? Do you cut the way or do you go out of the line or do you go straight in the opponent. Thanks for your videos. Keep going. Greetings from Germany. 😉👍🏻
Thanks for watching, Jesse, and yeah, we do have online material. Here’s the link: greenville-academy.teachable.com/ Hope that’s what you’re looking for. Thanks again!
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I'm at 22 minutes and couldn't stopped myself. I've already liked the video, posted 1 compliment and now a Q: I've boxed (for a very very short time period) and have recently started Wing Chun. Based on all that you are covering there's not much of a difference between the two. On the surface- yes- big difference! But in depth- no. Take the Punches for example. You are talking about throwing your entire body into the punch. Since I'm a WC noobie- I still haven't reached that level. Why then should I now learn to just snap out elbows and throw pillow punches only to after a few years learn Sil Lim Tano, Chum Kiu and then learn the concepts of full body punching? Why not go back to my boxing class and learn that from day one?
Great question. My answer is that Wing Chun shouldn’t be taught in such a fashion. It’s much more efficient than we’re making it out to be. The core concepts can/should be taught slowly and deliberately and yet we can also deliver the brutal basics quickly too. It shouldn’t be an either/or proposition for us. I think that’s a mistake. Also, Wing Chun has built-in anti-grappling, clinch fighting (dirty boxing), locking, breaking, pushing and pulling elements that come into play. These should be trained through the forms and drills while simultaneously developing the brutal basics. Good footwork, basic punch and kick and core defensive structure. That should be taught and trained right out of the gate, similar to boxing. Again, it’s a great point and question, so thanks.
@@JKDandWingChun Thank You. The school where I go to- the teachers are good communicators, affordable fees, close to where I stay..everything's great! Except, there's no sparring. The closest thing to sparring is 2-man drills, 3-man drills etc. The junior instructor and a senior student were caught completely unawares when I performed a takedown on them (while discussing grappling arts) No defense whatsoever.. Having said that, I do see the value in the art. So I am really confused whether I should invest my time in it or not. I'm hoping to take their concepts and later on look for a JKD school/ cross-train at a MMA school. Or should I just chuck it ? I'm hoping for anything from you that'll provide more clarity on my situation. Thank you again for your time.
It’s a delicate balance, no doubt. Here’s the thing - if your instructors are naive regarding applications, cross training in boxing, wrestling, MMA, etc., can really help. The thing is, it takes wisdom. There’s no perfect anything under the sun. I did way too much sparring back in the day and that made us a little too complacent about real-world self-defense. That said, as you’re experiencing, many schools are run by instructors that have are either “all sport/sparring/competition” or “no application, just theory.” There’s a balance there that none of us can get perfectly. That said, I think everyone - at least when they’re young - should box and wrestle under good leadership. Add that to your Wing Chun and use wisdom to understand what’s important, and I think you’ve got a winning combination. So, I’d say that you should train in a boxing/MMA school where you can spar and get that experience as needed. Look at it as a prescription, though. It’s not the end of the road but a way to get good timing and distance control…a way to understand pressure. Also, be careful with injuries. If the instructors/coaches in the MMA school run a fight club where guys won’t tap, are getting KO’d, knees are getting shredded because of heel hooks, and stuff like that, stay away. You want professionals running the place, not a coach looking to subsidize his UFC dream as he burns through students. Hope this helped and let me know how it’s going. And thanks again for watching!
Chum Kiu actually means "seeking bridge" . A lot of people mistake it for "sinking" bridge, because sinking and seeking is pronounced the same in Cantonese.
I have been training in Wing Chun over the past 7 years and have watched a lot of similar videos but this series by Sifu Jason Korol is by far the best.
Darrel Lee wow!! Thanks for that! So glad to help. 🙏
I agree.
It’s not how long you train but rather how much you understand 🙏🏽
I've boxed and learn WC and understand the concepts set forth here. Yes power is utmost importance and isn't stressed in the WC school I'm at. I don't tell anyone at school I can box but learn WC and apply concepts to boxing and street
This is one of the best chum kil videos I’ve ever seen. Love all the points you made. I’m from another lineage of WC (Cheung style) but I was trained in the way you speak of. Realistic approach to applying my WC. Chain punching was a beginners tool. It’s amazing To see videos with WC vs whoever, I see these so-called Master rushing in with chain punches? Of course they get there hearts handed back to them and WC takes another black eye. Love the break down of your WC’s chum kil, makes practical fight sense to me. My stepfather would say “ that’s WC?? It looks like boxing to me” 👿🤬. God rest his soul, but everything he knew about WC was movies and his instructor, who was a black belt in TWD? His instructor never took a WC class? My stepfather held black belts in TWD and Hapkido. Fortunately we touched hands and I explained the Way i was taught, he became very interested and later trained with me. Matter of fact he got hooked on it.
J.E M great input. You’re so right about all that too...so many black eyes for the system. It’s tragic. Anyway, glad you like it and thanks a lot for the input.
I clapped when I saw the Hook punch. Thank you.
Cool, it's about time that someone demonstrated the pragmatic side to WC and not just what they've read in books or seen on videos. Not to mention that WC does have knock out power...
Agreed like my Sifu Adie Gray Mr. Jason gets past the Hollywood movie magic 🐃💩 and gives the actual factual fighting offensive and defensive possibilities of the form. Given the bad representations of WC we need to finally have ambassadors who know wth they're talking about.
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It really doesn't, no offence
@@markmessi9020 you base your comment on what? I’ve hit people from an inch and they became instant believers and that was through an air shield.
Prior to WC I boxed, trained full contact and sport karate as well as put my skills to work where it matters, and frankly, as many have found, the afore mentioned had massive flaws. I almost forgot, I also trained and used judo.
Personally I found that WC was very practical and useful. I’ve used it to shut down quite few boxers and grapplers who weren’t there to play fair. Anyway, if you met one of the many that teach or train WC as a style, then sure, I concede that you would have a different view.
Keep in mind that every ‘art’ has charletons and the more popular the system the more instant experts appear, BJJ has the same issue.
As always, you’re welcome to your opinion.
@@zman4116 Great comment.
Sifu Jason, thank you so much, from the bottom of my heart, for these form application videos. I've studied martial arts since I was three years old. Dad was a marine, worked law enforcement, and of course a martial artist of various styles including WC. I started with Tang soo do from 87 to 89 at 7-9 yrs old. At 18 dad only taught me sticking hands idea and concept without WC movement. We practiced, once, a slow chi Sao and I was able to actually trap him. I studied, trained, and practiced ever since then to present at 40 years old on my own. It was in my thirties when I found sifu Ip Chun's early video of the sil lim tao and chum kiu forms. After diligent study for about three years, I had my own sil lim tao that was almost good. Never could get all the movements of chum kiu, and could only teach myself through trial and error, with a decent fighting IQ, ways to apply the first form in ways my body agreed to. (6' and a buck 25 to a buck 30 with a 29" waist.)
Now that the world has changed, especially out here in CA. Los Angeles , I fear that WC is now the most vital tool for what may soon come: a time when people get desperate in order to provide for their families. My father died in 2017. Afterwards I built my own mook jong and learned a lot from that dummy. I also found that the best source of useful information that wouldn't get me killed were coming from your youtube videos. Then a few days ago I noticed your gift of the form app videos. I realized that these may be the only way now to complete my study and understand WC the best I can without knowing all the 'nuts and bolts', but knowing enough, and confident in my ability to train even better with a bit more IQ to defend myself, home, and Family (my mother). God bless you for this. Thank you for stepping up and showing me what my dad is no longer here to teach me from across the country with having never met me. Keep moving forward in life knowing that many of us, or at least I, will always appreciate you and the Greenville Academy of Martial Arts for giving us real self defense in simple easy to understand videos without all the showing off fluff and stuff. I will do my best to move forward as well. I might even hit the like button.
Sifu Jason top training really 👌good. Paul in Middlewich Cheshire England.
thanks. back to the Boxing gym to get the power and my inside fighting.
Ten years maybe,i am practising wing chun,i havent seen such a this master...Perfect teaching,incredible.Thank a lot.
Understanding the applications makes the forms meaningful
Amen to that! Glad you found us. Thanks for watching and for the input too.
Love the hook punch while keeping centerline. I'm gonna practice this for sure.
I've noticed that the good wing chun teachers always show the applications and allow students to get creative as long as they more or less follow the principles. Subscribed, yo.
Good description of the elbow and stance turning after the 9:00 mark, turning the body together, power generation and sinking your stance. Yes a hook is very much like the elbow strike turn. Plus you are also training the rear elbow strike, and combining multiple elbow strikes.
Also good discussion of turning with power, but not overcommitting or rotating too far past the target and then getting counterstruck
Loving these video's just started wing chun and was worried I would be learning something with limited applicability but this video definitly proves to me how wrong I was in that thinking. Thanks Sifu Korol
Thanks for sharing. This video gave me some new insights and really supported me in training.
Glad to help and best of luck with your training.
Great video! Always interesting to see applications and developing power seems a perfectly logical progression. 👍
Anyone doing a palm hook be mindful of two things. Hit with the palm heel, and watch out for the rest of your hand. Easy to catch your hand and sprain it if you've never thrown a palm to see how small angles can kind of mess with it.
Safer for impact, but potentially less room for error.
Hammerfist to the jaw can work well too but opening to make it work is different.
Where you discuss double jum sau in the early chum kiu, our sifu instructs it as double man sau, where you shoot the arms forward to intercept (like the wooden dummy first move). I suppose a combination of forward and sinking force could work. This way you “found a bridge “ just by extending your arm.
Great video with lots of information! Thanks!
Great video like always, excellent explanations and demonstrations of the applications!
That was so great! Thank You Sifu Jason. 👊
You make this so fun ! I'm a true blue Iron Palm and Iron Fist practitioner . Not breaking blocks and bricks at this time . My hands are still being conditioning got about 40 day's in my friend has over 50 yrs of experience in this style that very little or even being taught no school's I can think of . He is very old school at this . My hands are getting strong and bigger . And I think Whig Chun is the ticket for what I'm learning . I was in Tiger Kung Fu but with a injury that still bothers me ACL in my knee this style is I believe is holding me back . At 6ft 293pds and not putting it down but I'm 53 yes old I don't need a kicking art which I wouldn't do in the street's . My trainer said give him one solid year in his I.P./ I.F. will be good enough in the street's in itself . After I learn inner striking but not to many Wing Chun schools near by . But really digging what you wre teaching . I can see this going gery well what I'm training in ....
A fanntastic video explanation. I learned a lot about my Wing Chun I didn't previously know. Thank You.
Sifu Jason. Michael Wong ( a Wing Chun, Tai Chi & JKD Instructor) said it best. "Every one's Wing Chun is defferent". How U apply The Chum Kiu 4 maximum power has helped me tremendously. Thank You 🙏
you had me at Arm Drag, great video
Nice vid, well after watching tons of martial arts vids in 480p, I have to say this is a breath of fresh air ha ha. Great introduction into the form, thanks. -Cheers
Awesome content like always. Cannot wait to get better. Thank you sifu Jason and randy
Thank you for this video
Excellent vid can’t wait for the next
Excellent! You teach how to explore and learn Wing Chun using intelligence. You focus on concepts to go beyond the traditional movements. In this way you find real applications that the pupil can do his own. I would like to be your student...
Outstanding sifu.
Honest, simple, concise. A pur joy to watch.
Thanks so much.
the nice thing about the elbow is that it's a lot harder and stronger than the hand so it deals more damage than a palm and safer than the fist, when thrown to hard targets
You could, perhaps, use the elbow if you'd already used your foreams to trap someone's hands?
Thanks sir
I have watched hours and hours of UA-cam footage in my search for knowledge but this series by sifu Jason is by far the best i have ever seen. I have trained in many martial arts over 34 years and wing chun is where I've settled but watching this has made more sense to me than anything else thank you Sifu
M&K 56 awesome! Thanks for letting us know and best of luck with your training. 🙏
Great video! Where's the part 2 at?
I study Ving Tsun and love the video
This man was not teaching wing chun, HE SHOWING TRUE JEET KUN DO
I like how you explain the science of the form. It explains a lot!
Keeping these videos coming I see. Thank you..I love a variety of sources on WC to cross-compare. I watched Officer Dominick Izzos' demonstrations out of Chicago, IL, and this no none-sense approach is the better way to learn. Even though we still want to preserve the original tradition, and way it was meant to be used, it must still be innovated for practicality.
On the money. Power. Hit hard!
Awesome lesson. Love your teaching. Thanks for putting the time in. Unfortunately I live in the UK so it would have been nice to come to your club. Excellent video lesson💎💎💎💎💎
Paul Palmeri yeah...that’s kind of a long haul. But thanks for watching and for the input.
You don't NEED to turn your fist for power with a body shot, look at Tyson's body blows they're vertical fist
this is a great explanation. thanks for the energy and dedication to your posts
These wing chun vids are quite interesting indeed...my martial arts background includes only tae kwon do and shotokan karate (also learned a little bit of jiu jitsu from one of my past instructors). Wish I had learned some chinese martial arts when I was younger....😞
You had me at 'ping! ..ping! ping!" We've all seen that approach. You're right about the need to teach tactical understanding from the start. Your approach does open up this very practical, effective art.
Yeah it took me back to the old cartoon of "Sheriff Ping Ping Piiing Ricochet Rabbit". Damn I am old 😂😂🤣
great teacher
Thank you. I'm learning a lot from you.
Thank you very much. Very, very good explained the form(s). The way you explain it, it make sense and its aplicable. I like it.
11:15 Vertical fist verses boxing fist. Great point, that's why I don't think vertical fist is really any better, and it's kind of awkward, and it seems like there is less torque at the point of impact, since you can't turn the fist over. Purist at times seems like they are more interested in labeling punches and kicks ect, instead of how to use the most effective way.
A punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick, the most important part is where they start and where they end with non-telegraphic movement and the correct timing. It comes down to how they are delivered.
"bacon goes with everything"... a man after my own heart, linking bacon and sandwiches with wing chun. Well Played Sir!
LOL.
Excellent instruction, wish I lived closer! Thank you.
These videos are so good! I've been studying Wing Chun for five years and I get a lot of value from your UA-cam content. Thank you for making them and sharing them! :-)
I just wish that pad holder would be even tad bit more experienced.
Love the explanation of why the elbow shouldn’t be the first option!
...great stuff! Thanks!
14:30 LOL. Not only that, look at the head placement. How can power be developed at that speed with the vertical fist if you can turn the fist over just before impact and torque into to it as in a horizontal fist? The vertical fist seems fine with hooks, but so is the horizontal fist.
Sifu Jason! What is Chum kui..? (Second form?) In Europe and locked down so great to find your training vids and loving your structured and logical explanations of technique applications. Just wanted to say thank you for these uploads as it is hard to find real world breakdowns of the form movements and how they should be applied. Was privileged to have been taken to a training session with James DeMale, nearly 20 years ago now! He touched hands with my daughter and was suprised at her balance, (gained from horseriding!) I remember him telling us how he got out of the air force where he was two-time heavyweight boxing champion, and sought out Bruce to spark him out! Bruce asked him how his boxing was and so he started swinging and took three hits if I remember correctly what he recalled before he came to and was accepted as a pupil! Good times! Haven't trained for years but touched hands with a teacher recently and the muscle memory was there still. Thanks to my teacher; Troy, who had us Chi Sau blindfolded, I'm sure he will appreciate your video's as you seem quite alike in both your appearance and the dynamic application of the moves. I always felt he had human magnets in his hands as he would hook you with just his fingers and you were stuck! Good luck and God Bless. X
P.S. Thought you'd like this bacon tribute! : ua-cam.com/video/rsFotNkCfSI/v-deo.html
Clive Wells thanks so much for watching and the great input. That’s awesome. And what wonderful memories you have with all that too! I hear stuff like that and it reminds me of how blessed we are to have this great heritage and brotherhood.
Anyway, I think you asked what the form was, right? Well, we do have a new video going up soon that’s a summary of it. Basically it’s “bridge seeking form” and it teaches us, among many things, two primary principles.
Power generation through structure
Gaining control through the bridge/clinch
Obviously, footwork and kicking are introduced formally at this point too, so CK is sort of the fighting form built upon the base of Sil Lim Tao.
In all, thanks again for the kind words and stay safe over there across the pond. God bless
Love chum kiu stuff! With good structure, roughly speaking, you’re pretty much a tank too. Guarding and hitting like one!
Love ur sections on the philosophy n techniques, I admire ur out of the box thinking..martial arts is about knowledge n progression...n i find that ur videos help me with my jkd as well..enjoy ur videos and always looking forward to new ones..my problem is I like moving around,is there different techniques in w.c. that could b used as effective as standing still...i am in awe of the technique and philosophy of wing Chung n want to obviously further my studies..so I was just wondering n if you already have a video,please let me knpw
Burton Young great input. We’re gonna do a video on Wing Chun footwork in one of the next couple of CK videos and it’s something we’re passionate about!! Footwork is absolutely the key in fighting. Thanks for watching!
i like out aproach it is similar to my masters here in México City, especially since we live in a violent society we have to adapt some tecniques to our culture, thanks for the video. Saludos
Tonk Jon glad and honored to be of service. Thanks for watching and stay safe down there. 🙏
Thank you . Very applicable information 🤓
"Bacon"...😂 Nice anecdote ! Loved the video guys and definitely a nice window with a different perspective. Clear and concise, thank you so much for sharing 🙏🏾
DarkCrusader157 thanks for watching! Glad you liked the bacon joke too. Lol.
Love the breakdown, great communication skills, easy to follow, makes understanding the forms and their application so much easier, im a fan keep up the good work.
I like the video after watching something I didn't like (political). I've heard lan sau was framing people out but it's just absolutely true in the forms that the latter forms show hip and shoulder energy that's just a fact. Sooooo people want to focus on sensitivity for their good reasons that's why they aren't using power to find the cracks and prevent the cracks opening on their side ... But as soon as they learn that which is totally legitimate it's hard to unlearn that and balance that when in my opinion it's clearly seen factually in the forms. I'm not here to argue with anyone but you can't unsee it ... The hip and shoulder power is in the forms.
So Wing Chun as time went on got better at some things but it got polarized ... That's just true.
So now what do we do to keep it alive?
I use other Kung Fu and styles, I really appreciated this video because the power train concepts are what people were always taught it's well expounded on ...
You can have more than one concept.
But I completely agree with the power train aspects.
I also think that's BOTH wing Chun and JKD.
That said I often will keep my hands not in the centerline in free position without contact and move there once I get going with wing Chun as you said ...
I've done that a lot.
But I also love my hands or at least a hand in the center because I'm not sure if it's rare or wrong or whatever ... I do know it is often very advantageous I am a frequent cross blocker.
... I have some very funky cross blocks. But it's cool.
(Don't read the rest of this but if you do)
I think cross blocking is much different than other people think I often guard with it in a very diverse way it's detailed.
I use a cross pak but I also use a full Shaolin yang style (front shoulder) meatpaw I use cross
tan spiral which is different than biu all of them are very detailed as to when why what comes after and how it helps.
My favorite gate block for a hook though is to have my elbows outside of theirs and just use inward forearm which you can't do unless your elbows are far back.
After that I will use a full meatpaw yang huen kind of big Shaolin block just because it works and it's fine.
But the reason people huen afterward it doesn't matter if you huen you need to be away from the second hook.
You can do different things.
That's why I like bong lap for hooks though too if not using helmet from boxing MMA which is just a tight tan sau really.
It's not as obvious as that big yang style Shaolin meaty block.
I do not like to stop it at the bicep and hit the body, I will do that but it's sort of a power vs power thing.
Might as well just outward forarm block with something that rises high, you have your options ... So you block it with elbow energy.
Blocking the bicep is taught and I like it. But I am more afraid to do that than the other ideas and I am just a cross blocker I enjoy that.
That takes good care of me often.
You can throw your elbow up and in free no contact position block two strikes by cross blockimg then elbow blocking same arm I'm really used to that.
In trapping it does not work well, and yet it does because it will eventually come out and you have to learn what to do.
So I like my hands in the center or not, doesn't matter, but in the center cross blocks are easy I use cross blocks from either stance.
You can't get cross tan spiral or cross biu without hands in center but you can't use much against a tight hook besides a duck or helmet and whatever you want to gamble on, which I do ... I like to gate block. Tight tight hooks are a different story a lot of times you can still use a rising elbow block of your choice or a bong lap ... It's just really really hard so you are doing it for some reward. Back up a tiny bit you can fit your cross blocks in.
I agree you can't bong a hook punch you can bong lap though together they act as an inside block, which I would have preferred for a hook the problem is hooks go around and you can't get that shape but there ya go.
You also can't pak sau a hook. It's a yin block, but there's not enough power.
I am set up to use a different blocking system for cross blocks from Shaolin that resembles a granny or wheel block with kind of wing Chun chain like retrieval ... I have some very funky cross blocks. But it's cool.
So Kung Fu is funky.
I like that.
Great vid and breakdown of the Wing Chun forms, brilliant job Jason, l trained with Steve Powell In Manchester England at his Chinatown Martial Arts Academy who had trained with Larry Hartsell and Rick Young and the JKD instruction was excellent but we never really concentrated on Wing Chun, it was incorporated in the classes but your explanation of the connection with JKD is really appreciated. We did the trapping element , Kali/ Silat and Hubud which l suppose is similar, once again pure respect to you.
Red Rebel that’s great to hear. Thanks for the input and for watching. 🙏
You explain everything in such a good way for beginners like me, thanks!
Great explanation of a form.. I’d like to see it applied under pressure, sparring against an aggressive opponent who is trying to hit you..not feeding possibilities..
hitting with the elbow is an distance thing
Great sir
Awesome sifu
Hi Sifu Jason - big fan of the series and channel (I have liked and subscribed .. karma tick box checked!).
I'm hoping to learn Wing Chun your way, however I'm in the North of the UK.
Do you know anyone who you could recommend?
Daniel St Clair thanks so much! Glad you’re liking the stuff. Unfortunately, we don’t have an affiliate over there yet. Sorry about that. We’ve got some distance learning options that we’ll be posting soon, so maybe that can help. Stay tuned!
@@JKDandWingChun many thanks, I'll certainly be staying tuned! Might even grab a copy of the book in the meantime :)
great vid as always, keep em coming!
I love your interpretation of the forms. My Sifu doesn't do that.
Hello, just curious who was your Sifu, Sigung? Thx
Awesome!
Strongest lesson: Never dear dry humor! Thanks Sifu!
Jay Ceester Deester ; ...come again..?
Ok guys, thought I'd leave a comment to say thanks for all your time and the explanation of the forms. Wishing you well in these strange times and hope it hasn't disrupted your training too badly. I've been watching a number of sites that go into the internal power aspect of wing chun and found them very educational, especially the later teachings of Chu Shong Tin who was crowned the 'King' of Sil Lim Tao by his teacher Ip Man. He was told to do the form with no force and practiced that religiously and found he developed great power effortlessly. Sounds too good to be true but I have heard and seen how he could play around with much bigger people, even as an old man when he said his power was diminishing. I'm not sure how he would have coped with your explosive wing chun but he was almost untouchable when Chi Sauing and would practice with each pupil for hours after lessons. Just wondered If you've looked into it yourself and what you think of this energy concept/application? X
It would be cool if Sifu Phu of Enter Shaolin and you guys could do a joint video. Or maybe Dominick Izzo. Or Benny Meng. Cooperation of schools. It's great that Sifu Jason can see how Bruce looked at boxing and implemented it onto JKD.
Thank you, Sifu!!!!!
WY is nice but i find it too complicated for the street.
Excelente!
Very good, do you teach the WSL method
Aminul Hussain no. We get asked that quite a bit. Of course, I’ve read quite a bit of WSL’s ideas (great books from David Peterson) and I’m a big fan of his combat philosophy. That said, I think some valid combat principles are objectively true regardless of lineage, hence our similarity. Anyway, thanks for the question and for watching.
How do I land the vertical fist punch with my ring finger without it hurting it hurts on both hands no matter what I do it’s hurting as we speak
Sounds like you need to condition your fists in my school we start fingertips touching the wall bag (open ✋ hand) and from there closing into a 👊✊
Hello Sifu,
Will you eventually work on Bil Gee?
These are great!!
I’m just learning the art
Brian Peace we should be getting to that. Hopefully soon. Thanks for watching and best of luck with your training.
Thanks from Texas.
Thank from Vietnam
Thank you! This is good stuff.
This is a recovery form is it not, when in the losing position?
Thanks for sharing just have a few ideas on this subject also.
Bridging the gap or seeking it, better to learn to take it, occupy it, control it, similar to a battle in a war. If all else fails (last resort) then blow it up; similar to what is called limb destruction.
Walking the bridge, attacking or controlling up along the arm starting at the wrist. Each section being a target or a handle used as a vantage (reference) point along the bridge used for paving the way for other techniques. Here are some related terminology to this topic with Juypting, hope this is O.K?
Bridges & Bridging
Bridge = kiu4 AKA forearm
Bridge Idea = kiu4 kiu2
Beam = loeng4
Bridge = kiu4 loeng4
Killing Bridge = saat1 kiu4
Bridge Arm = kiu4 sau2
Short Bridge = dyun2 kiu4
Build Bridge = daap3 kiu4
Temporary Bridge = bin6 kiu4
Shovelling Bridge = caan2 kiu4
To Jump Off A Bridge = tiu3 kiu4
Hitting Three Stars = daa2 saam1 sing1
Conditioning the three sides of the forearms by repeatedly striking them usually with a partner in a training drill.
Sinking Elbow Forearm Block = zam2 zaang1 sau2
Walk The Bridge = zau2 kiu4
AKA moving up the opponents arm in stages
Distance To The Bridge = kiu4 lei5
Pressing Bridge = aat3 kiu4
Long Bridge = coeng4 kiu4
Stack Plam Sinking Bridge = deoi1 zoeng2 cam4 kiu4
Seeking or Sinking Bridge = cam4 kiu4
As Wing Chun is concept based then practicing with a few of them in mind is to my way of thinking staying on track♡
If my comments here are considered to be inappropriate then let me know and I will refrain from doing anything else like is again♡ As Wing Chun concepts is one of my specialities and the other is sharing them♡
My question is... How you close the distance? Do you cut the way or do you go out of the line or do you go straight in the opponent. Thanks for your videos. Keep going. Greetings from Germany. 😉👍🏻
Y porque no ensenan ....chijerk porque lo ocultan
Do you have an online virtual classes? Like a complete introduction and everything?
Thanks for watching, Jesse, and yeah, we do have online material. Here’s the link:
greenville-academy.teachable.com/
Hope that’s what you’re looking for. Thanks again!
What kinda of car????
It would be interesting to see one of your best students in the octagon with an MMA fighter.
@Grang. What about in the streets? I bet a good WC FIGHTER ie a non classical practitioner, can handle himself. A good ex. would be one of B Lee's.
5 minutes is too long for wing chun without rules.
my style does bong sau side to side instead of lian sao
@@VanessaSalang 🙏😎
What is your lineage if I may ask? Mine is Ip Man's.
What happens when a guy gets the take down with full mount or side control?
@Zack. Learn to use short power.
Sifu can you recommend anyone in the Dallas area for JKD?
Blues Man 63 sorry. We don’t have any affiliates over there presently....maybe soon.
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I'm at 22 minutes and couldn't stopped myself. I've already liked the video, posted 1 compliment and now a Q: I've boxed (for a very very short time period) and have recently started Wing Chun. Based on all that you are covering there's not much of a difference between the two. On the surface- yes- big difference! But in depth- no. Take the Punches for example. You are talking about throwing your entire body into the punch. Since I'm a WC noobie- I still haven't reached that level. Why then should I now learn to just snap out elbows and throw pillow punches only to after a few years learn Sil Lim Tano, Chum Kiu and then learn the concepts of full body punching? Why not go back to my boxing class and learn that from day one?
Great question. My answer is that Wing Chun shouldn’t be taught in such a fashion. It’s much more efficient than we’re making it out to be. The core concepts can/should be taught slowly and deliberately and yet we can also deliver the brutal basics quickly too. It shouldn’t be an either/or proposition for us. I think that’s a mistake. Also, Wing Chun has built-in anti-grappling, clinch fighting (dirty boxing), locking, breaking, pushing and pulling elements that come into play. These should be trained through the forms and drills while simultaneously developing the brutal basics. Good footwork, basic punch and kick and core defensive structure. That should be taught and trained right out of the gate, similar to boxing. Again, it’s a great point and question, so thanks.
@@JKDandWingChun Thank You. The school where I go to- the teachers are good communicators, affordable fees, close to where I stay..everything's great! Except, there's no sparring. The closest thing to sparring is 2-man drills, 3-man drills etc. The junior instructor and a senior student were caught completely unawares when I performed a takedown on them (while discussing grappling arts) No defense whatsoever.. Having said that, I do see the value in the art. So I am really confused whether I should invest my time in it or not.
I'm hoping to take their concepts and later on look for a JKD school/ cross-train at a MMA school. Or should I just chuck it ?
I'm hoping for anything from you that'll provide more clarity on my situation. Thank you again for your time.
It’s a delicate balance, no doubt. Here’s the thing - if your instructors are naive regarding applications, cross training in boxing, wrestling, MMA, etc., can really help. The thing is, it takes wisdom. There’s no perfect anything under the sun. I did way too much sparring back in the day and that made us a little too complacent about real-world self-defense. That said, as you’re experiencing, many schools are run by instructors that have are either “all sport/sparring/competition” or “no application, just theory.” There’s a balance there that none of us can get perfectly. That said, I think everyone - at least when they’re young - should box and wrestle under good leadership. Add that to your Wing Chun and use wisdom to understand what’s important, and I think you’ve got a winning combination. So, I’d say that you should train in a boxing/MMA school where you can spar and get that experience as needed. Look at it as a prescription, though. It’s not the end of the road but a way to get good timing and distance control…a way to understand pressure. Also, be careful with injuries. If the instructors/coaches in the MMA school run a fight club where guys won’t tap, are getting KO’d, knees are getting shredded because of heel hooks, and stuff like that, stay away. You want professionals running the place, not a coach looking to subsidize his UFC dream as he burns through students. Hope this helped and let me know how it’s going.
And thanks again for watching!
@@JKDandWingChun thank you for the detailed reply!