Tag team arena is the most neglected aspect of the game. How has plarium NOT DONE A DAMN THING about the tag team missions... The kraken wall is absolutely impossible for newer (or even mid to late game) accounts to progress in the ramantu missions... I'm literally going to get maurius before finishing ramantu missions because of how horribly put together the tag team arena is. FIX THE ARENA OR CHANGE THE MISSIONS. It's so overwhelmingly frustrating for so many people to be stuck on one single mission. Sorry about the rant.. I know plarium doesn't care about this broken arena at all.
I am in the same boat and completely agree with you! Why can they not see the limited amount of players that can be in gold is worse than pulling mythics and leggos! Good call dude! @Saph heed this person!!! Good show and stay safe 🙃
It's hard but not impossible. I started about 5-6 months ago and I'm pushing Silver 2 now. For the most part, it all comes down to really fast speed leads. If you can win the speed race, you'll always be able to pick up a couple of wins on average because then you just need a drop defense and 2 nukers and enemy team is toast. Sometimes stoneskin can mess you up but it's not that common. I'm FTP.
@@Unbiased321 I agree with you: it's not impossible. But I'm afraid you've yet to get to the wall that is S4 , where people are actively countering speed leads and debuffs with all manners of blessings ,mythicals champs, ascended and/or awakened . I'm fully aware that I am a cry baby about it, but there's that one thing that is nagging me: Ramantu, while good, is worse that some of the many champs you'll face actually trying to get him. It doesn't make sense to me.
I do my tag arena fights every single day, winning 99% of them for months, and am still in bronze 3. Not only is the matchmaking broken, the amount of tag team you need to do is ABSURD. Sorry Plarium, I'm not grinding this stupid mode more than 5 matches per day. Climbing takes way too long and the opposition gets difficult way too fast. I've all but given up ever getting Romantu. I just refuse to do more TT than I need to. No way. The rank limit is stupid, they are essentially turning kraken accounts into smurf accounts by doing this. We shouldn't be seeing end game player power in bronze and silver, that's stupid. It's like if classic arena completely reset ranks every time, and we'd be seeing plat players in bronze. This is essentially what they're doing by having a cap on the ranks.
How would u fix it? Silver 4 to gold 1 isn't as hard as u think I'm f2p n bounce back n forth on purpose I hit gold 1 farm all week drop n go up the next week ahsin n repeat. My best tips r u won't hold ur pints over the weekend. Get ur self up to 1300 to 1400 each day. Then fight peoeple in 1200 range or less. It's more mental then anything u don't believe u csn win. Also when attacking manual n use the right counter chsmps ie rotos udk, speed boosters tormin stc
I wish more creators would discuss the issue with putting in so much time and effort and reaching new PR’s and still placing 4th week after week and never getting clash rewards. It’s disgusting
this was the best thing they could have done IMO. theyve added additional loot to the overachievers, and kept it competitive, while still allowing access to the accessories. i like competitive systems.
I agree, I actually think it sounds better than just adding rewards for 4th and 5th. It may stop clans tanking points to get easy matches, they need this for CVC as well. Tanking points is anti competitive behaviour
Bro for real I have seen so many people mad like bruh it’s free loot for all even terrible players in terrible clans can get gear now people are just dumb
It’s not about everyone getting more gear it’s about people getting nothing that they said they were going to fix that was a easy fix like saph said. They made it where people who got nothing still get nothing for a month or two but the people who go score get there normals chests and now possibly (if they score the 1.2 billion) 4 more chests by the time little Timmy gets just the one. This wasn’t the issue they should have just fixed the issue rather than widen the gap it’s great everyone gets rewards but it was implemented poorly.
To fix match making they only need to track over a longer period of time. The average points scored over a 4 or 6 week period is much harder to tank than the number of points scored last week. They should have added chests for 4th and 5th place.
During siege, our clan is duscussing things on discord. The stronger members generally don't allack until the end. When it just starts the clan leaders call on the
Yes, I agree with you about 4th and 5th place, but I would only add one type chest in the top position (ornate platinum and platinum chest) then I would add a new couple as least ones, like the famous pewter medals, right? So ornate pewter and pewter chest. To make the podium still better, I would still maintain the gap of 1 chest between position in the same range of points (so, for example a player getting 650m+ gets the ornate platinum on 1st place, the normal platinum at 2nd and, like you mentioned, the actual ornate gold that we have now on 1st place as the top reward for 3rd place; but 4th and 5th would not be the 2nd and 3rd of now, a bit less, like this: 1) 🎖️ornate plat🏅plat chest🏆ornate gold🥇gold chest 2) 🏅 🏆 🥇 🛡ornate silver 3) 🏆 🥇 🛡️ 🥈silver chest 4) 🛡 🥈 🔔 ornate brass 🥉brass chest 5) 🔔 🥉 💽 ornate pewter 📀 normal pewter chest What do you think?
Siege has a problem that new players cannot get rewards because they just don't have good enough gear to beat any defenses. We are relatively noob friendly clan but we also have a core of good veterans. Therefore our Siege opponents are far stronger than our clan. Therefore about 30% of our clan cannot get any wins. I think it should be enough to get ferral gear if someone sets defense and tries to attack. I actually want our new players attack and lose to make sure we can stay low enough for wins.
I can only do 25-30 M at the most because I don’t have the Meta champs like Gnut or Trunda. I really hate Hydra. Oh and I just don’t want to spend 3 hours playing one game mode when there are other things to do. Thanks Plarium, you’ve isolated this player.
I want notes in siege for every location. Also (much easier) I want flags for POSTS. I find the flags okay - they're a symbol to put good teams in place. Herding cats feels like part of the game mode. :D
I think they should make it where if you try you should get credit, its hard when you are fighting the whales to get a win, or even being able to get an attack sometimes if you are not home in time. the entire system is a fail atm unless you are a massive PvP player.
To me, a player fairly far removed from the endgame of hydra, the system has a pretty glaring flaw: I manage about 60m to 80m clash points, just getting my normal and hard chests. That means once this is implemented, I'll get the first chest probably within the first hydra clash. Then I'll get nothing for a month, then the second chest. Then nothing again for two months, then the third chest. Then nothing again for three months, then the final chest and it starts again. Not. Excited. Doesn't exactly make me wanna play more Hydra.
So looking forward to Saph's doppleganger tearing a strip off of Godforge once it's released. We'll see just how well the new game performs amid all the criticisms its playerbase will lob at it. I expect they will learn a harsh lesson that making a perfect game isn't nearly as easy as they seem to think it is.
If when you hit 1.2B it resets, does it mean that with 3 keys I can theoretically get all four chests 3 times? Because, they didn't state you can only claim those once per clash.
@@shakes725I mean I do agree that’s a more complicated solution. But they wanted to help prevent ppl tanking and being match ppl who don’t have a chance. Which this definitely is a step in the right direction + everyone gets more rewards.
@@Elixium_Watches It would be ludicrous if it wasn't capped at 1.2B per week, wouldn't that give like 100 chests to a Trunda hit? Or maybe it doesn't overflow so it's capped at 3 as you said.
I’m just waiting for the new hydra chests to be bugged out of this world and drop a dozen times for those 80 billions trunda teams. Just giving chests for 4th and 5th would have taken an intern an afternoon but they spent months working on a worse system. Classic
Around 7:30 you make it sound like purposefully tanking is now a bad idea, but you say it like that is a negative, and you like the option to purposefully tank one time to get an easy battle next time. This is ridiculous. Purposefully tanking competitions in any way for any game or sport is just poorly designed. In the olympics badminton recently two teams tried to lose, and they both got disqualified. The whole world agrees they were just doing their best, and the event was poorly designed. I sure hope you don't believe tanking in events is a good design. Purposefully tanking in arena, 3v3, CvC, Hydra clash and soon Siege all needs to prevented with better designed systems. Plarium seems to embrace the tanking is good concept. I am curious what Godforge's stance will be on that concept.
I actually think this is a better solution then making it a clan wide everyone gets a chest. It makes it so that an individual’s choice to push their teams and do more is never hurt. The individual player is never hurt by the clan’s performance. And this way they’re never going to have to fix Trunda.
I feel pushing it to 1.2 was a poor implementation could have been a lower cut off and people in lower brackets would still get similar in a reasonable time scale like 600/800k 1.2 imo is a bit excessive.
@@Elixium_Watches yeah some feet top chest but don’t even do half of the 1.2. Do you agree 1.2 is a little high for the majority of the player base and it’s aimed and the few
@@danielpounder8905well I would agree with you if there was only the 1.2b cheat. But there are 4 of them at different intervals 1.2b being the top ones. These are participation rewards, and if ppl want to clear them out in one go then they have something cool to work towards
@@AquaticSkipper it is with the No 1 chests. This is still not addressing the issue. Wouldn't have minded this IF places 4 and 5 also got chests. Saph actually said they recommended improving chests for places 1-3 and giving the old rewards to 4 and 5.
ideal wise it sounds more like it would convince more low tier clan to try hydra more so, true we may not know the rewards but it would give plarium a chance to re adjust later so to me it sounds like a nice step not including those higher tier clan that hit over 1 billion per key
Good news is - as a newer player Godforge will be out before I ever reach cumulative over 1 billion on hydra. So I will just save my money to spend on Godforge instead.
With the chests I think they were trying to solve the problem that they don't want to give the lower ranked clans too much high quality gear. So they try to lock it behind milestones. But that is just a guess. I would not be supprissed if the new chests give only 5* gear in a true plarium way :D
3:55 yes. Such an easy fix. Saph, your Intel and "real player" perspectives are so appreciated. I know a lot of your channels content is graphs and maths with most tuning out (including me to a point) but the diligence and research you do will probably never be recognized until you move to another game. Love and respect. Canada loves Sapporo ❤️ 😂
Too much events does not give people time to recover and the fact that 90% of the events favor pay 2 win and leave free 2 play out to dry and bad enough its almost impossible to compete with a pay 2 win
What they are doing to hydra clash is sooo dumb! My clan is a bronze 2 clan we as a clan normally come in 2nd or 3 in hydra clash with coming in first only a cupola of times .as a clan we take out normal and hard hydra . I’m one of the top three players in my clan when it comes to hydra and I only average 40 to 50 million for a run .i have only one hydra team built. Because of the lack of gear and the lack of certain champs needed to do big damage. With this being said as a clan we barely break over a billion points how are we as a clan suppose to compete?when we get 5 star artifacts that are no better than what we can get just farming spider? And I know what people will say” why don’t you just recruit better playes” well no one likes to carry a clan so these people tend to leave.Idk how they can fix this for lower clans but this isn’t the way
Are we certain that you can get the 1.2B clash reward each week and that it isnt set at each threshold so you cant pass the next chest? I.E it takes 4 weeks to get through the 1.2B threshold regardless of how much dmg you do?
Personally I have the same 3 teams every week that can one key each hydra team on auto, as long as they beat the minimum required score I don’t care about going incredibly over minimum score
same 3 teams here as well. but i carry my clan. I do 2.4b+ out of 3b+ total. and I just hit auto, maybe target certain heads towards the end of the fight
up till recently, I was barely making it passed 35 million... if I was not hitting higher numbers this variable reward like this that rolls over would just see me check out entirely, as it stands it will take me 4 weeks to roll over to a lower number again...
I like the change more than rewards for 4th and 5th as long as the chests are good. Tanking for better match making is not good game design. Its boring for the clans doing it, it harms the clan falling victim to it. At least this alleviates that some while also giving more rewards.
@ *All from around the world!* *Hi guys, first, its cool and good that they changed a little bit the hydra mode and added this new rewards, but my opinion was ever, plarium is disreputable/ mean in many things!* *Do you all remember as you were a new player, started raid for the first time, how long it took to climb up to get ultimate rewards, ultimate chests , or how long it took until you was able to make enough points in a challenge or event?* *i mean, as i can see since years, when plarium changed anything, or added new stuff, all these things were for the endgamers, for the big whales, but for midgamers and below, they never changed anything to be more easily! I am still not able to make over 2500 points in championtraining to get, for example, a champion who is needed for a fusion, because you need 6500 points, or the higher rewards, like legendary books, or the eternal soulstone for 10000 points!* *or to reach in dungeons stages above 17, or iron twins over 12 etc!* *so, therefore i think, you all will be disappointed again, maybe you will get 6 star legendary artifacts, but not with bombastic stats! Why should they reward you more?!* *in my opinion, many things must be changed, also the altar of souls, because since they added mythicals , they didnt add mythical souls in the mystical market! You can buy only legendary, epic and rare souls, for 20, 7 and 2 soulessences, but mythicals are missing, for example for 30 or 40 soulessences!* *They should also change the market, to buy artifacts, good artifacts like 5 and 6 star epic and legendary artifacts, not only 3 or 4 star uncommon and rare, and also to buy shards, void shards, not only 2 or 3 ancient shards per month, but much more often!* *you will laugh, but since i play the game, since 4 years, i have seen only 4 times a legendary artifact, but only 4 stars and i didnt bought even 1, there is only crap!* 😂 *thats really* 👎 *i would be happy to have the possibility to buy soulessences in the market of the altar of souls! Its possible to buy a soulstone for 1000 coins, but not soulessences for the same coins, or to change coins in soulcoins! You can buy an essence for 50 soulcoins, but only if you earned some! There is no possibility to buy any coins, or to change mortal coins to soulcoins and eternal coins!* *players, who can not reach stage 11, 12 or higher in iron twins, should also have the possibility to get soulessences in a different way!* *However, what do you all think about this?*
I think you miss the point that the company that makes the game is a "for profit" company, and not a charity. It's created a game, that by design, must have appeal for gamers to want to spend real money on. Or else everyone's just working for free. You can argue about how good a job they've done, but all the things you are complaining about are intentionally implemented so that you can't be the best unless you spend money. If the game just handed you things that are the best for easy or for free, then there would not be incentive to spend on it.
Hmm... In my opinion, the problem with Siegfrund was that he was so bad that nobody wanted him; nowadays he's so good that everyone wants him, so they certainly fixed that problem. As for the Clash rewards - the problem was that you got nothing even if you invested a lot of time and effort and did a ton of damage in Clash if you got 4th or 5th place, now you get something, so that's also fixed. And in that way, even players that can't reach the minimum chest in the Hydra Clash (35M) can get something over time, which is also pretty nice. The only disadvantage that I see is that there's still no incentive for me to do as much damage as possible, since thanks to matchmaking, doing more than 1.2B damage only means that we'll get stronger opponents next time, and doesn't change anything for my rewards or the clan's win rate. Would have preferred a higher number for the top chest, maybe 10B or so, but that's just my opinion.
Hi Saph, Long term viewer first time commenting / subscribing, I really like how you break everything down its always super interesting! I am a very low spender who has played raid since 2019 however lately have been becoming increasingly frustrated with the game due to game modes like Hydra Clash and the gulf between the rest of us and the mega whales. When I see plus 4 Trunda's in clash or when I see a team of Plus 4 six star blessed mythical champs smashing Amius in 4 turns I almost find it demotivating as that is just so far away its unreal for the majority of the player base and I know that it should be for the money spent however I feel like there should be an area of the game where its fun and competitive for all. Would be interested to know your thoughts on this however get its a long winded question lol!
Imo the best solution to hydraclash rewards is to do away with the 5clan clash system. Have the entire clan population compete on a global leaderboard and reward clans based on where they finish in brackets - top10 - 1-5% 6-10% ..... and yes 80-100%.
Wouldn’t making it global only benefit the kraken and whale clans that’ll keep winning top rewards, and lower spend clans will have to accept only being able to get bottom rewards.
@@peanutbutter4166 Granted, yes. Tho the current system actively rewards tanking every 2nd hydraclash. As a ftp or low spend clan if your successful in hydraclash your always promoted up and up until you reach your tipping point and then its a real slog to see any rewards. The global leaderboard system atleast encourages progression and doesnt base your rewards on a random 4 opposition clans which may utterly annihilate you on any given day. I threw it out there as a potential conversation starter -shrug-
The seige still needs a lot of work. I mean even if we win. We still don't have enough to repair 1 of our towers. And now, apparently if we upgrade our main tower. The enemy get's even more attacks on us. Seriously? They've dropped the ball even more then majority of the updates they've released in the last few years since DT.
Can someone update me with the required tier to get in tag arena and live arena to complete Marius ? I don't bother with Ramantu and Marius progress cuz i know I'll never get to gold in tag arena and live arena is even worse
I have just gotten Trunda. and this is hugely exciting. i dont want them to fix trunda. This is the problem aswell. they let people spend alot of money on getting Trunda for this especially. and peoiple will be mad if they change it after the fact
Not getting rewards as 4th or 5th never was the problem for me. The inbalance we have in the game is the problem. And they just don't want to addreass that issue. 1 Trunda team can decide hydra clash. Just ridiculous.
I do think this is a decent solution by not allowing the top clans to tank their score too much. This will help balance out the match making to some extent. They may not have completely solved it but they have addressed it to some extent. So why in the world would they make an arena based battle mode not have arena bonus'. Now i have to go into to PVP with out my PVP team setups. That is just stupid.
Hydra stuff, I didn't understand a single thing. Siege - We need one ability as leaders, remove a defender. Our clan is now booting people who just toss their teams in. good players, they just don't read the chat (which is useless on every level) and Discord, because they refuse to join. So we have booted 10 players because it has cost us the loss. Other clans are doing this as well. So there will be a ton of PIAss joining clans and causing issues all over. Maybe in the Kracken Bubble "everyone is working together" but in the other 99% of the clan worlds, it is utterly destroying them.
i agree it would have been easier to just give rewards to 5th and 6th but at the same time, most people in my clan don't get anywhere near the damage requirements for any of those chests anyway (they would also need to change this so all you needed to do was hit the hydra at all to earn a chest imo) so i actually like this system. being able to build up my 1-5 million damage runs over time means i will be able to get some of the accessories eventually (probably only 5 star which isn't great but better than nothing). i think the problem is you're only looking at this from the perspective of top level competitive gameplay, where most clans are more casual. as for the chest rewards quality, g5 arena has the same problem. lucky if i get 1 piece of 6* gear. ok it's not the "top" chest if you count plat, but most players will never be in plat so why lock 6* gear behind it?
There goal is to encourage those within clans that compete in hydra clash that don't to try and give a crap about hydra about to increase their drive for champions. I know that sounds confusing, but what their doing is trying to encourage those who only care about their personal rewards in the game to push for 1.2 billion damage. Just making players aim for that personally is big jump in commitment to playing hydra compared to what a lot of players in my clan aim for. That translates to lazy players to honestly spend more. Simple as that it's just a move to encourage spending.
I've played almost 2 years and I still don't understand hydra. I have never had enough keys to even try anything past hard. Never scored more than 25m.
18:12 "just get rid of 5* gear, I don't know how many times I have to say this...." I guess Paul hasn't got a lot of experience with games. There is always a booby prize. Pick one of three doors, one has the prize you want, the second has a very modest prize, the third has a booby prize... why? Because if all three doors had desireable prizes, there's really nothing at stake with the game now, is there? Oh, it's going to be truly entertaining watching Fateless crash and burn with its game, if it's handing out only 100% chances of getting good loot from grinding its content. LMAO!
It will start well. But since it has (as every business) investors, they need longevity and player retention. It will evolve like raid did. It will have to, in order to survive and stay in the long term.
For a company that makes such a nice game. I just do not understand their reasoning on these changes they make. They need to listen to these creators more. The content creators ( Saph should definitely be one) are more in tune in game play and what the population of players are experiencing in the game play.
those orders are bit of a joke :) also, we have to talk about this upgrading, why they have made auto upgrade, why cannot make donations to save resources! I hope it will not mess up my clan too hard, because we have now stronghold level 2 :) and we did not wanted it...
1st Siege - My clan did ok, because the opponent we were paired with, didn't really try 2nd Siege - we got cleared completely and were barely able to defeat any enemy teams at all So Siege, to me, is still completely useless. Whale/Kraken mechanic only. Hydra Clash? Meh. I'm one of the top 5 scores in our clan for Hydra, and I'm only averaging about 150mil to 200mil per clash... soo getting an extra chest every month and a half, honestly doesn't really excite me at all. 9 to 10 extra chests a year.... I really couldn't give a crap. Again, this is a new mechanic that REALLY only benefits the whales and krakens. Can you score billions of damage each clash? Then you get 1 extra chest per clash. The community was looking to reward 4th and 5th place... an what they have done is offer the odd chest for stragglers, every 1 or 2 months... but really it's WAY more rewards for the people who are already at the top level. They weren't the ones who needed the boost. This has the air of those features where they tell you 'its a free champ that EVERYONE can get' but really when you look at it, unless you are a spender it will take you 2+ years to get the champ being teased. At the end of the year I will have maybe 9 chests to show for it, while other players will be clearing 52. Because it really doesn't feel like players like me are the focus of this feature change... we are getting some crumbs from the plate, but it's obviou where their focus is. This as NOT an update to give 4th and 5th place a reward... this was yet another addition for their top spenders. This entire update is garbage. Except the Lady of Ireth changes.
pretty stupid that it has nothing to do with skill. You could be a clan full of dudes that clear hydra nightmare.. but it will still like 50/50 chance of being against a clan you couldn't beat if your whole clan had guns held to their heads.
Typical Plarium, my God Why don't they ever understand what we need? :/ I agree on siege Wars, as clan leader is really hard to get everyone a reward! I spend a few hours during the siege, in real time to be sure that attacks and other things are dont structurally not just as you said "a carnage".
@@Elixium_Watches 98% of hydra rewards are 5 star insta-sell junk. But my comment was more about the hydra itself. For me it usually takes 1-1.5h per run on manual to have that 3% chance to get buffs stolen (multiple times per run) and fail, so for me (and probably some other people) it takes 3-4-6-8-10h to do all 3 keys decently every week for the reward you sell afterwards... Either rewards quality must be multiplied x times or max run lenght cut like 5 times at least...
In regards to hydra clash I'd say the fix has nothing to do with champs and everything to do with matchmaking. Trunda has been like that basically since trunda was trunda. I do not see the logic in "fixing" a champion to cover up an issue with a competitive game mode. There's a gold five live arena and a platinum arena for a reason. An area for the heaviest hitters in the game. They haven't figured out a similar solution for hydra clash.
What are even our rewards for siege? My clan hasn't won siege yet, nor we will because of the repair costs. I won like 8 pieces of gear and that's about it. Still have no fragments for the siege champ. When hydra came out you'd have to hit a milestone and you'd be rewarded for doing so, you didn't have to win hydra clash...
didn't actually watch but let's not pretend that plarium doesn't just wing it when it comes to a more complex system especially one that involves matchmaking - I don't think they even realised that some clans were tanking on off-weeks to the point of making a whole cluster-wide system about it they're good at tricking the paypigs into giving them money and that's about as far as their talents go either way this is a better system to make hydra more valuable than some pity box for 4th and 5th as for siege it's already been proven to be mostly a "get it done with and then forget about it for 12 days" gamemode because again plarium don't really know what to do
I don't even play the game mode too much hassle I just put some champions together and that's it I'm not gonna bust my brain to play hydro and end up with ntn I saw it happened a lot to my clan we in first and bam we end up 3rd or 4th with ntn for our time
This is not a great change for weaker clans. We consistently place in the top 3 but because none of the clans in our group do 50mil (usually much lower but we're getting better) as a whole, pretty much after months/a year of playing, NO ONE, or nearly none, even earn the lowest placement chest in clash. 35+ mil? What a joke. Placement rewards should be based of % of clan damage, not some arbitrary flat point value nearly no one achieves in low scoring clan groups. We work really hard to help do well in clash only for no one to get placement chest rewards.
welp im screwed no matter what since i cant even go above 10 million on hydra normal with my best team and luck....so much fun but meh that's the life of people who take a year long break and dont have the resources for many of the numerous events.
The only way Pay-Larium will give rewards for 4th and 5th place in clash is if this mode is boycotted like when they decided to let the Head of Decay wreck all of our champs in the guise of "correcting" the passive. But the rewards scheme, current and upcoming, doesn't generate enough pain across the board for a boycott to happen.
Well this is better than 4th and 5th place. Since they get it, and ppl who win the clash get more rewards too. Plus even if you win and are not hitting 1.2B now you have a motivation to get there, or not (your choice)
@@Elixium_Watches This is like getting Maud chests instead of universal frags for incomplete fragment summons. It's better than the status quo, but nowhere close to what the community wants.
PLEASE get rid of the 5* gear (unless your account is at a level that, that would be beneficial for) and I agree just give everyone everyone some hydra rewards and we are all happy. Plarium seems to go out of there way to create things which generally creates problems or isn't needed. I mean honestly who is asking for platinum lvl clan league 🤦♂️ and it can be a bit frustrating having what seems like simple changes made to a game and then your ignored. But that's my 2 cents.
The personal reward chest is not something they did to give players more rewards it’s to make sure as many people as possible spend as much time in hydra as possible. They realize hydra clash is a dying mode so what better way to get people to do hydra than to make sure they need to do it and twice as good as before. What a joke.
but if you win, you get more accesories (hopefully) more chance to finish set. im happy with 5 star ring as long as I can finish that stupid set of 9 pieces im chasing for months 😂 edit. P.S. on siege. can you give order on post? I think not for post itself. 😂
No thry wouldn't, they'd be pissed off for sure. But they would still have harder hits then anyone else but not unachievable levels (70 billion keys and what not). Sunk cost fallacy is a hell of a drug.
@@Ceezy_yt i doubt it, of course they wouldn't even think about nerfing/fixing trunda for that exact reason. But if they did fix her, i truly don't think they would lose a lot of whales that already didn't want to quit.
@@Ceezy_yt you don't seem to understand, they are afraid of that, as a company they can't risk it obviously. However in practice i do believe that very small portion whales would leave. And that those wales where just looking for an excuse. Also a lot of whales sell their accounts when they are leaving so new whales replace them.
reply to pudding :: do better took me a yr of being stuck there but i just did it and as ftp no auto bats use every bat and refill do it during a cvc to get into green early in week set a d where you can at least win 1
The new system is trash in my view. Just as you said...they named the problem and decided not to solve it but to integrate a totally new system which stil has the same problems as before. Why should newer clans try to do Hydra if they need like 40 weeks to get the 5*gear rewards?
I feel like sometimes you just like to cry about anything you can. They did a great job on this hydra change... now everyone can get stoneskin acc where some people have gone months and months not getting anything at all because of your clan hurting you. its been over a year since ive gotten blood rings even winning CvC cuz its always in the third slot win.
Who exactly is Hydra clash for? These "fixes" don’t address one of the strangest problems with the game mode. The clan I’m in has a lot of lower-level people who are just starting to hit Hydra, a few have started to get the top chest on normal. But based on the numbers required Hydra clash isn’t for them; they never get the 35-mil minimum no matter what position we finish and now they can get some probably very weak chest after about 10 Hydra clashes and finish that new rewards track after 150 hydra clashes. Why even open the game mode to them at all? Maybe from a high-level clan perspective this fixes a few things but for a lot of people doing Hydra it solves nothing. People are doing Hydra and by extension Hydra clash and getting absolutely nothing for the Clash even if they finish top in their bracket, its moronic.
Everyone always complains about everything can’t ever win. Also i think it’s funny people want trunda fixed but it’s ok for people to manipulate the matchmaking system by tanking. They want to abuse what they can and cry about what they can’t!
Bloody hell, why is no cc showing us what they have changed about the champion buffs? Especially lady iretah. You're all just acting like she hasn't gotten a buff. I wantto know what it is
Looks like raid is the new raid killer....been watching updates hoping for a reason to comeback to the game...now it just feels like watching update videos is also a waste of time
It's such a plarium fix. Like clan boss you get to auto it quickly if you can 1 key. Well shit who cares let me skip clan boss all the time what a huge time sink. Hydra is the same thing, bad changes and no time saving qol in this patch. Lower the hydra turns to 1k or something so we don't have to spend 3-4 hours a week doing hydra ffs. People have lives.
nothing of siege was really thought out...they failed horribly at most every aspect of the mode. most everything you talked about makes siege billion times better and they dont have the ability to put that stuff in the game..they just dont care.
I really enjoy last Siege, we matched up a stronger clan and it was fun, we took down all their defenses and they did the same to us, I stopped having fun when I found out there was no winner. I do not understand how we don’t have a tie breaker in the game. To me we won since it took us less attack scrolls to destroy them but the fact of the matter is neither one of us got that victory chest. Plarium needs to do better or this will be a problem every single siege for Mid to end game clans.
@@ollie5286 Most people who have been playing for the past year or so should have a Wixwell, Yannica and either Emic or Shy'Ek for taunt. One blown up max shield gets you roughly 1.2-1.3B damage just enough for max personal rewards every week. It should be accessible to everyone if you take Hydra even a little seriously. you don't even need Trunda or OP Mythicals to do that kinda of damage anymore, there's OP sleeper champs like Suzerain, Salad, Quintus, etc. That can put out hundreds of millions of damage in the right set up, a good chunk of people also recently pulled Wallmaster and Teox from the last couple prism shard events. They're obviously not Trunda level but they do very solid work.
Trunda was never the issue, she was just first (or second if you consider Cadaver). The problem has always been the rewards, just keep trunda the same now with all these crazy teams, and just give us better rewards.
Tag team arena is the most neglected aspect of the game. How has plarium NOT DONE A DAMN THING about the tag team missions... The kraken wall is absolutely impossible for newer (or even mid to late game) accounts to progress in the ramantu missions... I'm literally going to get maurius before finishing ramantu missions because of how horribly put together the tag team arena is. FIX THE ARENA OR CHANGE THE MISSIONS. It's so overwhelmingly frustrating for so many people to be stuck on one single mission. Sorry about the rant.. I know plarium doesn't care about this broken arena at all.
I am in the same boat and completely agree with you! Why can they not see the limited amount of players that can be in gold is worse than pulling mythics and leggos! Good call dude! @Saph heed this person!!! Good show and stay safe 🙃
It's hard but not impossible. I started about 5-6 months ago and I'm pushing Silver 2 now. For the most part, it all comes down to really fast speed leads. If you can win the speed race, you'll always be able to pick up a couple of wins on average because then you just need a drop defense and 2 nukers and enemy team is toast. Sometimes stoneskin can mess you up but it's not that common. I'm FTP.
@@Unbiased321 I agree with you: it's not impossible. But I'm afraid you've yet to get to the wall that is S4 , where people are actively countering speed leads and debuffs with all manners of blessings ,mythicals champs, ascended and/or awakened . I'm fully aware that I am a cry baby about it, but there's that one thing that is nagging me:
Ramantu, while good, is worse that some of the many champs you'll face actually trying to get him. It doesn't make sense to me.
I do my tag arena fights every single day, winning 99% of them for months, and am still in bronze 3.
Not only is the matchmaking broken, the amount of tag team you need to do is ABSURD. Sorry Plarium, I'm not grinding this stupid mode more than 5 matches per day.
Climbing takes way too long and the opposition gets difficult way too fast.
I've all but given up ever getting Romantu. I just refuse to do more TT than I need to. No way.
The rank limit is stupid, they are essentially turning kraken accounts into smurf accounts by doing this. We shouldn't be seeing end game player power in bronze and silver, that's stupid.
It's like if classic arena completely reset ranks every time, and we'd be seeing plat players in bronze. This is essentially what they're doing by having a cap on the ranks.
How would u fix it? Silver 4 to gold 1 isn't as hard as u think I'm f2p n bounce back n forth on purpose I hit gold 1 farm all week drop n go up the next week ahsin n repeat.
My best tips r u won't hold ur pints over the weekend. Get ur self up to 1300 to 1400 each day. Then fight peoeple in 1200 range or less. It's more mental then anything u don't believe u csn win. Also when attacking manual n use the right counter chsmps ie rotos udk, speed boosters tormin stc
In Seige the clan leaders and deputies should be able to remove defenses.
Or better if they can move around the defense team manually.
I wish more creators would discuss the issue with putting in so much time and effort and reaching new PR’s and still placing 4th week after week and never getting clash rewards. It’s disgusting
this was the best thing they could have done IMO. theyve added additional loot to the overachievers, and kept it competitive, while still allowing access to the accessories. i like competitive systems.
I agree, I actually think it sounds better than just adding rewards for 4th and 5th. It may stop clans tanking points to get easy matches, they need this for CVC as well. Tanking points is anti competitive behaviour
I'm glad you've raised the double rewards at the top issue I pointed out in Nub's video. I was told I didn't understand it etc... Go figure 🤷🏽♂️
I promise, if I see one more person complaining about everyone getting more gear I’m gonna lose my mind.
Bro for real I have seen so many people mad like bruh it’s free loot for all even terrible players in terrible clans can get gear now people are just dumb
People are getting more gear then me😢
Did you only now realize that we complain for everything?
Unless a reward is login-claim, people cry.
All we want is free-easy-effortless.
@@gkar9757 No, we complain about things that are poorly implemented :) and What would you gain by not complaining? nothing
It’s not about everyone getting more gear it’s about people getting nothing that they said they were going to fix that was a easy fix like saph said. They made it where people who got nothing still get nothing for a month or two but the people who go score get there normals chests and now possibly (if they score the 1.2 billion) 4 more chests by the time little Timmy gets just the one. This wasn’t the issue they should have just fixed the issue rather than widen the gap it’s great everyone gets rewards but it was implemented poorly.
To fix match making they only need to track over a longer period of time. The average points scored over a 4 or 6 week period is much harder to tank than the number of points scored last week. They should have added chests for 4th and 5th place.
It's already a rolling 4 week matchmaking.
Thumbs up for you saying "Fix Trunda". 110% agree
Siege is “arena” ….therefore Arena aura’s SHOULD WORK in Siege!!!!!!
During siege, our clan is duscussing things on discord. The stronger members generally don't allack until the end. When it just starts the clan leaders call on the
Yes, I agree with you about 4th and 5th place, but I would only add one type chest in the top position (ornate platinum and platinum chest) then I would add a new couple as least ones, like the famous pewter medals, right? So ornate pewter and pewter chest. To make the podium still better, I would still maintain the gap of 1 chest between position in the same range of points (so, for example a player getting 650m+ gets the ornate platinum on 1st place, the normal platinum at 2nd and, like you mentioned, the actual ornate gold that we have now on 1st place as the top reward for 3rd place; but 4th and 5th would not be the 2nd and 3rd of now, a bit less, like this:
1) 🎖️ornate plat🏅plat chest🏆ornate gold🥇gold chest
2) 🏅 🏆 🥇 🛡ornate silver
3) 🏆 🥇 🛡️ 🥈silver chest
4) 🛡 🥈 🔔 ornate brass 🥉brass chest
5) 🔔 🥉 💽 ornate pewter 📀 normal pewter chest
What do you think?
Right, 1-5 are going to get something but you still need to get that min 35 mil. So, if your clan wins you get nothing if you only make 34 mil.
Contributing to the win and getting nothing is what really sux.
Siege has a problem that new players cannot get rewards because they just don't have good enough gear to beat any defenses. We are relatively noob friendly clan but we also have a core of good veterans. Therefore our Siege opponents are far stronger than our clan. Therefore about 30% of our clan cannot get any wins. I think it should be enough to get ferral gear if someone sets defense and tries to attack. I actually want our new players attack and lose to make sure we can stay low enough for wins.
I can only do 25-30 M at the most because I don’t have the Meta champs like Gnut or Trunda. I really hate Hydra. Oh and I just don’t want to spend 3 hours playing one game mode when there are other things to do. Thanks Plarium, you’ve isolated this player.
I want notes in siege for every location. Also (much easier) I want flags for POSTS.
I find the flags okay - they're a symbol to put good teams in place.
Herding cats feels like part of the game mode. :D
I think they should make it where if you try you should get credit, its hard when you are fighting the whales to get a win, or even being able to get an attack sometimes if you are not home in time. the entire system is a fail atm unless you are a massive PvP player.
To me, a player fairly far removed from the endgame of hydra, the system has a pretty glaring flaw: I manage about 60m to 80m clash points, just getting my normal and hard chests. That means once this is implemented, I'll get the first chest probably within the first hydra clash. Then I'll get nothing for a month, then the second chest. Then nothing again for two months, then the third chest. Then nothing again for three months, then the final chest and it starts again.
Not. Excited.
Doesn't exactly make me wanna play more Hydra.
So looking forward to Saph's doppleganger tearing a strip off of Godforge once it's released.
We'll see just how well the new game performs amid all the criticisms its playerbase will lob at it.
I expect they will learn a harsh lesson that making a perfect game isn't nearly as easy as they seem to think it is.
If when you hit 1.2B it resets, does it mean that with 3 keys I can theoretically get all four chests 3 times? Because, they didn't state you can only claim those once per clash.
It’s probably once per week. If it’s not then it’s an even better system
@@Elixium_Watches because the points reset, it feels complicated for them to prevent it
@@shakes725I mean I do agree that’s a more complicated solution. But they wanted to help prevent ppl tanking and being match ppl who don’t have a chance. Which this definitely is a step in the right direction + everyone gets more rewards.
@@Elixium_Watches It would be ludicrous if it wasn't capped at 1.2B per week, wouldn't that give like 100 chests to a Trunda hit? Or maybe it doesn't overflow so it's capped at 3 as you said.
I’m just waiting for the new hydra chests to be bugged out of this world and drop a dozen times for those 80 billions trunda teams. Just giving chests for 4th and 5th would have taken an intern an afternoon but they spent months working on a worse system. Classic
Around 7:30 you make it sound like purposefully tanking is now a bad idea, but you say it like that is a negative, and you like the option to purposefully tank one time to get an easy battle next time. This is ridiculous. Purposefully tanking competitions in any way for any game or sport is just poorly designed. In the olympics badminton recently two teams tried to lose, and they both got disqualified. The whole world agrees they were just doing their best, and the event was poorly designed. I sure hope you don't believe tanking in events is a good design.
Purposefully tanking in arena, 3v3, CvC, Hydra clash and soon Siege all needs to prevented with better designed systems. Plarium seems to embrace the tanking is good concept. I am curious what Godforge's stance will be on that concept.
One thing to add: a clanmember needs to win in offense too, to get the ~230+ extra florins...
I actually think this is a better solution then making it a clan wide everyone gets a chest. It makes it so that an individual’s choice to push their teams and do more is never hurt. The individual player is never hurt by the clan’s performance.
And this way they’re never going to have to fix Trunda.
I feel pushing it to 1.2 was a poor implementation could have been a lower cut off and people in lower brackets would still get similar in a reasonable time scale like 600/800k 1.2 imo is a bit excessive.
Like literally you can just do the first chests and not go to 1.2b. Sounds like ppl just repeating other ppl without thinking
@@Elixium_Watches yeah some feet top chest but don’t even do half of the 1.2. Do you agree 1.2 is a little high for the majority of the player base and it’s aimed and the few
@@danielpounder8905well I would agree with you if there was only the 1.2b cheat. But there are 4 of them at different intervals 1.2b being the top ones. These are participation rewards, and if ppl want to clear them out in one go then they have something cool to work towards
I thought the exact same thing.
Like always this new system just rewards the ones on top even more. They should have just given chests to everyone.
High performance should be rewarded, this makes sense. Everyone still gets chests as before also
@@AquaticSkipper it is with the No 1 chests. This is still not addressing the issue. Wouldn't have minded this IF places 4 and 5 also got chests. Saph actually said they recommended improving chests for places 1-3 and giving the old rewards to 4 and 5.
ideal wise it sounds more like it would convince more low tier clan to try hydra more so, true we may not know the rewards but it would give plarium a chance to re adjust later so to me it sounds like a nice step not including those higher tier clan that hit over 1 billion per key
Good news is - as a newer player Godforge will be out before I ever reach cumulative over 1 billion on hydra. So I will just save my money to spend on Godforge instead.
With the chests I think they were trying to solve the problem that they don't want to give the lower ranked clans too much high quality gear. So they try to lock it behind milestones. But that is just a guess. I would not be supprissed if the new chests give only 5* gear in a true plarium way :D
3:55 yes. Such an easy fix. Saph, your Intel and "real player" perspectives are so appreciated. I know a lot of your channels content is graphs and maths with most tuning out (including me to a point) but the diligence and research you do will probably never be recognized until you move to another game. Love and respect. Canada loves Sapporo ❤️ 😂
Too much events does not give people time to recover and the fact that 90% of the events favor pay 2 win and leave free 2 play out to dry and bad enough its almost impossible to compete with a pay 2 win
What they are doing to hydra clash is sooo dumb! My clan is a bronze 2 clan we as a clan normally come in 2nd or 3 in hydra clash with coming in first only a cupola of times .as a clan we take out normal and hard hydra . I’m one of the top three players in my clan when it comes to hydra and I only average 40 to 50 million for a run .i have only one hydra team built. Because of the lack of gear and the lack of certain champs needed to do big damage. With this being said as a clan we barely break over a billion points how are we as a clan suppose to compete?when we get 5 star artifacts that are no better than what we can get just farming spider? And I know what people will say” why don’t you just recruit better playes” well no one likes to carry a clan so these people tend to leave.Idk how they can fix this for lower clans but this isn’t the way
Are we certain that you can get the 1.2B clash reward each week and that it isnt set at each threshold so you cant pass the next chest? I.E it takes 4 weeks to get through the 1.2B threshold regardless of how much dmg you do?
6th because i have fomo, and i need to be a part of this
Personally I have the same 3 teams every week that can one key each hydra team on auto, as long as they beat the minimum required score I don’t care about going incredibly over minimum score
same 3 teams here as well. but i carry my clan. I do 2.4b+ out of 3b+ total.
and I just hit auto, maybe target certain heads towards the end of the fight
2nd because i do care
up till recently, I was barely making it passed 35 million... if I was not hitting higher numbers this variable reward like this that rolls over would just see me check out entirely, as it stands it will take me 4 weeks to roll over to a lower number again...
I like the change more than rewards for 4th and 5th as long as the chests are good. Tanking for better match making is not good game design. Its boring for the clans doing it, it harms the clan falling victim to it. At least this alleviates that some while also giving more rewards.
@ *All from around the world!*
*Hi guys, first, its cool and good that they changed a little bit the hydra mode and added this new rewards, but my opinion was ever, plarium is disreputable/ mean in many things!*
*Do you all remember as you were a new player, started raid for the first time, how long it took to climb up to get ultimate rewards, ultimate chests , or how long it took until you was able to make enough points in a challenge or event?*
*i mean, as i can see since years, when plarium changed anything, or added new stuff, all these things were for the endgamers, for the big whales, but for midgamers and below, they never changed anything to be more easily! I am still not able to make over 2500 points in championtraining to get, for example, a champion who is needed for a fusion, because you need 6500 points, or the higher rewards, like legendary books, or the eternal soulstone for 10000 points!*
*or to reach in dungeons stages above 17, or iron twins over 12 etc!*
*so, therefore i think, you all will be disappointed again, maybe you will get 6 star legendary artifacts, but not with bombastic stats! Why should they reward you more?!*
*in my opinion, many things must be changed, also the altar of souls, because since they added mythicals , they didnt add mythical souls in the mystical market! You can buy only legendary, epic and rare souls, for 20, 7 and 2 soulessences, but mythicals are missing, for example for 30 or 40 soulessences!*
*They should also change the market, to buy artifacts, good artifacts like 5 and 6 star epic and legendary artifacts, not only 3 or 4 star uncommon and rare, and also to buy shards, void shards, not only 2 or 3 ancient shards per month, but much more often!*
*you will laugh, but since i play the game, since 4 years, i have seen only 4 times a legendary artifact, but only 4 stars and i didnt bought even 1, there is only crap!* 😂 *thats really* 👎
*i would be happy to have the possibility to buy soulessences in the market of the altar of souls! Its possible to buy a soulstone for 1000 coins, but not soulessences for the same coins, or to change coins in soulcoins! You can buy an essence for 50 soulcoins, but only if you earned some! There is no possibility to buy any coins, or to change mortal coins to soulcoins and eternal coins!*
*players, who can not reach stage 11, 12 or higher in iron twins, should also have the possibility to get soulessences in a different way!*
*However, what do you all think about this?*
I think you miss the point that the company that makes the game is a "for profit" company, and not a charity.
It's created a game, that by design, must have appeal for gamers to want to spend real money on. Or else everyone's just working for free.
You can argue about how good a job they've done, but all the things you are complaining about are intentionally implemented so that you can't be the best unless you spend money.
If the game just handed you things that are the best for easy or for free, then there would not be incentive to spend on it.
3th i do not care that the 2nd one cares
This is a help to the segment that needed it the least
Hmm... In my opinion, the problem with Siegfrund was that he was so bad that nobody wanted him; nowadays he's so good that everyone wants him, so they certainly fixed that problem.
As for the Clash rewards - the problem was that you got nothing even if you invested a lot of time and effort and did a ton of damage in Clash if you got 4th or 5th place, now you get something, so that's also fixed. And in that way, even players that can't reach the minimum chest in the Hydra Clash (35M) can get something over time, which is also pretty nice. The only disadvantage that I see is that there's still no incentive for me to do as much damage as possible, since thanks to matchmaking, doing more than 1.2B damage only means that we'll get stronger opponents next time, and doesn't change anything for my rewards or the clan's win rate. Would have preferred a higher number for the top chest, maybe 10B or so, but that's just my opinion.
Hi Saph, Long term viewer first time commenting / subscribing, I really like how you break everything down its always super interesting! I am a very low spender who has played raid since 2019 however lately have been becoming increasingly frustrated with the game due to game modes like Hydra Clash and the gulf between the rest of us and the mega whales. When I see plus 4 Trunda's in clash or when I see a team of Plus 4 six star blessed mythical champs smashing Amius in 4 turns I almost find it demotivating as that is just so far away its unreal for the majority of the player base and I know that it should be for the money spent however I feel like there should be an area of the game where its fun and competitive for all. Would be interested to know your thoughts on this however get its a long winded question lol!
The solution benefits the high end players more than 4th5th clan prizes, right?
Imo the best solution to hydraclash rewards is to do away with the 5clan clash system. Have the entire clan population compete on a global leaderboard and reward clans based on where they finish in brackets - top10 - 1-5% 6-10% ..... and yes 80-100%.
Wouldn’t making it global only benefit the kraken and whale clans that’ll keep winning top rewards, and lower spend clans will have to accept only being able to get bottom rewards.
@@peanutbutter4166 Granted, yes. Tho the current system actively rewards tanking every 2nd hydraclash. As a ftp or low spend clan if your successful in hydraclash your always promoted up and up until you reach your tipping point and then its a real slog to see any rewards. The global leaderboard system atleast encourages progression and doesnt base your rewards on a random 4 opposition clans which may utterly annihilate you on any given day. I threw it out there as a potential conversation starter -shrug-
The seige still needs a lot of work. I mean even if we win. We still don't have enough to repair 1 of our towers. And now, apparently if we upgrade our main tower. The enemy get's even more attacks on us. Seriously? They've dropped the ball even more then majority of the updates they've released in the last few years since DT.
Can someone update me with the required tier to get in tag arena and live arena to complete Marius ?
I don't bother with Ramantu and Marius progress cuz i know I'll never get to gold in tag arena and live arena is even worse
I have just gotten Trunda. and this is hugely exciting. i dont want them to fix trunda. This is the problem aswell. they let people spend alot of money on getting Trunda for this especially. and peoiple will be mad if they change it after the fact
Not getting rewards as 4th or 5th never was the problem for me. The inbalance we have in the game is the problem. And they just don't want to addreass that issue. 1 Trunda team can decide hydra clash. Just ridiculous.
Yeah. Agree. 1 yannica team and it is all lost
I do think this is a decent solution by not allowing the top clans to tank their score too much. This will help balance out the match making to some extent. They may not have completely solved it but they have addressed it to some extent.
So why in the world would they make an arena based battle mode not have arena bonus'. Now i have to go into to PVP with out my PVP team setups. That is just stupid.
Hydra stuff, I didn't understand a single thing. Siege - We need one ability as leaders, remove a defender. Our clan is now booting people who just toss their teams in. good players, they just don't read the chat (which is useless on every level) and Discord, because they refuse to join. So we have booted 10 players because it has cost us the loss. Other clans are doing this as well. So there will be a ton of PIAss joining clans and causing issues all over. Maybe in the Kracken Bubble "everyone is working together" but in the other 99% of the clan worlds, it is utterly destroying them.
i agree it would have been easier to just give rewards to 5th and 6th but at the same time, most people in my clan don't get anywhere near the damage requirements for any of those chests anyway (they would also need to change this so all you needed to do was hit the hydra at all to earn a chest imo) so i actually like this system. being able to build up my 1-5 million damage runs over time means i will be able to get some of the accessories eventually (probably only 5 star which isn't great but better than nothing). i think the problem is you're only looking at this from the perspective of top level competitive gameplay, where most clans are more casual. as for the chest rewards quality, g5 arena has the same problem. lucky if i get 1 piece of 6* gear. ok it's not the "top" chest if you count plat, but most players will never be in plat so why lock 6* gear behind it?
thanks mr red even if you have no soul because red hair you give good info
Well i guess it could have been worse. At least they didnt add another siege currency and a siegeshop...
There goal is to encourage those within clans that compete in hydra clash that don't to try and give a crap about hydra about to increase their drive for champions. I know that sounds confusing, but what their doing is trying to encourage those who only care about their personal rewards in the game to push for 1.2 billion damage. Just making players aim for that personally is big jump in commitment to playing hydra compared to what a lot of players in my clan aim for. That translates to lazy players to honestly spend more. Simple as that it's just a move to encourage spending.
I've played almost 2 years and I still don't understand hydra. I have never had enough keys to even try anything past hard. Never scored more than 25m.
18:12 "just get rid of 5* gear, I don't know how many times I have to say this...."
I guess Paul hasn't got a lot of experience with games. There is always a booby prize. Pick one of three doors, one has the prize you want, the second has a very modest prize, the third has a booby prize... why? Because if all three doors had desireable prizes, there's really nothing at stake with the game now, is there?
Oh, it's going to be truly entertaining watching Fateless crash and burn with its game, if it's handing out only 100% chances of getting good loot from grinding its content. LMAO!
I am looking forward even more to playing Godforge now.
It will start well.
But since it has (as every business) investors, they need longevity and player retention.
It will evolve like raid did. It will have to, in order to survive and stay in the long term.
For a company that makes such a nice game. I just do not understand their reasoning on these changes they make. They need to listen to these creators more. The content creators ( Saph should definitely be one) are more in tune in game play and what the population of players are experiencing in the game play.
those orders are bit of a joke :) also, we have to talk about this upgrading, why they have made auto upgrade, why cannot make donations to save resources! I hope it will not mess up my clan too hard, because we have now stronghold level 2 :) and we did not wanted it...
They need specific Siege chat that doesn't get reset!
1st Siege - My clan did ok, because the opponent we were paired with, didn't really try
2nd Siege - we got cleared completely and were barely able to defeat any enemy teams at all
So Siege, to me, is still completely useless. Whale/Kraken mechanic only.
Hydra Clash? Meh. I'm one of the top 5 scores in our clan for Hydra, and I'm only averaging about 150mil to 200mil per clash... soo getting an extra chest every month and a half, honestly doesn't really excite me at all. 9 to 10 extra chests a year.... I really couldn't give a crap. Again, this is a new mechanic that REALLY only benefits the whales and krakens. Can you score billions of damage each clash? Then you get 1 extra chest per clash.
The community was looking to reward 4th and 5th place... an what they have done is offer the odd chest for stragglers, every 1 or 2 months... but really it's WAY more rewards for the people who are already at the top level. They weren't the ones who needed the boost. This has the air of those features where they tell you 'its a free champ that EVERYONE can get' but really when you look at it, unless you are a spender it will take you 2+ years to get the champ being teased. At the end of the year I will have maybe 9 chests to show for it, while other players will be clearing 52. Because it really doesn't feel like players like me are the focus of this feature change... we are getting some crumbs from the plate, but it's obviou where their focus is. This as NOT an update to give 4th and 5th place a reward... this was yet another addition for their top spenders.
This entire update is garbage. Except the Lady of Ireth changes.
pretty stupid that it has nothing to do with skill. You could be a clan full of dudes that clear hydra nightmare.. but it will still like 50/50 chance of being against a clan you couldn't beat if your whole clan had guns held to their heads.
Typical Plarium, my God Why don't they ever understand what we need? :/
I agree on siege Wars, as clan leader is really hard to get everyone a reward! I spend a few hours during the siege, in real time to be sure that attacks and other things are dont structurally not just as you said "a carnage".
How sprinking junk (another word here) with glitter makes it less junk?
If you think the rewards are junk then I don’t even understand what you are doing here? Trolling ? lol
@@Elixium_Watches 98% of hydra rewards are 5 star insta-sell junk. But my comment was more about the hydra itself. For me it usually takes 1-1.5h per run on manual to have that 3% chance to get buffs stolen (multiple times per run) and fail, so for me (and probably some other people) it takes 3-4-6-8-10h to do all 3 keys decently every week for the reward you sell afterwards... Either rewards quality must be multiplied x times or max run lenght cut like 5 times at least...
I am doing this, once i have told members where to put a team, that is where they stay for life. simple.
or how about a better in game chat that doesnt wipe every server reset, a friends list, and dms
In regards to hydra clash I'd say the fix has nothing to do with champs and everything to do with matchmaking. Trunda has been like that basically since trunda was trunda. I do not see the logic in "fixing" a champion to cover up an issue with a competitive game mode.
There's a gold five live arena and a platinum arena for a reason. An area for the heaviest hitters in the game. They haven't figured out a similar solution for hydra clash.
What are even our rewards for siege? My clan hasn't won siege yet, nor we will because of the repair costs. I won like 8 pieces of gear and that's about it. Still have no fragments for the siege champ. When hydra came out you'd have to hit a milestone and you'd be rewarded for doing so, you didn't have to win hydra clash...
Valid criticism tbh
Will take me forever again with barely getting the second chest with 140M 🙄 Oh my Gosh do I hate this Hydra bosses 🤮
Plarium fixing things in a plarium way as usual
didn't actually watch but let's not pretend that plarium doesn't just wing it when it comes to a more complex system especially one that involves matchmaking - I don't think they even realised that some clans were tanking on off-weeks to the point of making a whole cluster-wide system about it
they're good at tricking the paypigs into giving them money and that's about as far as their talents go
either way this is a better system to make hydra more valuable than some pity box for 4th and 5th
as for siege it's already been proven to be mostly a "get it done with and then forget about it for 12 days" gamemode because again plarium don't really know what to do
I don't even play the game mode too much hassle I just put some champions together and that's it I'm not gonna bust my brain to play hydro and end up with ntn I saw it happened a lot to my clan we in first and bam we end up 3rd or 4th with ntn for our time
This is not a great change for weaker clans. We consistently place in the top 3 but because none of the clans in our group do 50mil (usually much lower but we're getting better) as a whole, pretty much after months/a year of playing, NO ONE, or nearly none, even earn the lowest placement chest in clash. 35+ mil? What a joke. Placement rewards should be based of % of clan damage, not some arbitrary flat point value nearly no one achieves in low scoring clan groups. We work really hard to help do well in clash only for no one to get placement chest rewards.
welp im screwed no matter what since i cant even go above 10 million on hydra normal with my best team and luck....so much fun but meh that's the life of people who take a year long break and dont have the resources for many of the numerous events.
The only way Pay-Larium will give rewards for 4th and 5th place in clash is if this mode is boycotted like when they decided to let the Head of Decay wreck all of our champs in the guise of "correcting" the passive. But the rewards scheme, current and upcoming, doesn't generate enough pain across the board for a boycott to happen.
Well this is better than 4th and 5th place. Since they get it, and ppl who win the clash get more rewards too. Plus even if you win and are not hitting 1.2B now you have a motivation to get there, or not (your choice)
@@Elixium_Watches This is like getting Maud chests instead of universal frags for incomplete fragment summons. It's better than the status quo, but nowhere close to what the community wants.
PLEASE get rid of the 5* gear (unless your account is at a level that, that would be beneficial for) and I agree just give everyone everyone some hydra rewards and we are all happy. Plarium seems to go out of there way to create things which generally creates problems or isn't needed. I mean honestly who is asking for platinum lvl clan league 🤦♂️ and it can be a bit frustrating having what seems like simple changes made to a game and then your ignored. But that's my 2 cents.
The personal reward chest is not something they did to give players more rewards it’s to make sure as many people as possible spend as much time in hydra as possible. They realize hydra clash is a dying mode so what better way to get people to do hydra than to make sure they need to do it and twice as good as before. What a joke.
but if you win, you get more accesories (hopefully) more chance to finish set. im happy with 5 star ring as long as I can finish that stupid set of 9 pieces im chasing for months 😂
edit. P.S. on siege. can you give order on post? I think not for post itself. 😂
im pretty sure none of the spenders want you to "fix" trunda, you'd literally kill the game in doing that
No thry wouldn't, they'd be pissed off for sure. But they would still have harder hits then anyone else but not unachievable levels (70 billion keys and what not). Sunk cost fallacy is a hell of a drug.
@@jovan9989 hate to break it to yah, but they literally already said this themselves, is no argument because that came from them
@@Ceezy_yt i doubt it, of course they wouldn't even think about nerfing/fixing trunda for that exact reason. But if they did fix her, i truly don't think they would lose a lot of whales that already didn't want to quit.
@@jovan9989 what is there to doubt? you can literally ask them yourself.
@@Ceezy_yt you don't seem to understand, they are afraid of that, as a company they can't risk it obviously. However in practice i do believe that very small portion whales would leave. And that those wales where just looking for an excuse. Also a lot of whales sell their accounts when they are leaving so new whales replace them.
reply to pudding :: do better took me a yr of being stuck there but i just did it and as ftp no auto bats use every bat and refill do it during a cvc to get into green early in week set a d where you can at least win 1
How is every PvP aspect of the game so mismanaged?
Whatever director is in charge of PvP needs to be replaced.
5 star is no good 6 or noting... sell it all !!!
5th i guess
The new system is trash in my view. Just as you said...they named the problem and decided not to solve it but to integrate a totally new system which stil has the same problems as before.
Why should newer clans try to do Hydra if they need like 40 weeks to get the 5*gear rewards?
Anyone still think plarium care about the quality of the game?
What’s Siege?! 😂
I feel like sometimes you just like to cry about anything you can. They did a great job on this hydra change... now everyone can get stoneskin acc where some people have gone months and months not getting anything at all because of your clan hurting you. its been over a year since ive gotten blood rings even winning CvC cuz its always in the third slot win.
Who exactly is Hydra clash for? These "fixes" don’t address one of the strangest problems with the game mode. The clan I’m in has a lot of lower-level people who are just starting to hit Hydra, a few have started to get the top chest on normal. But based on the numbers required Hydra clash isn’t for them; they never get the 35-mil minimum no matter what position we finish and now they can get some probably very weak chest after about 10 Hydra clashes and finish that new rewards track after 150 hydra clashes. Why even open the game mode to them at all? Maybe from a high-level clan perspective this fixes a few things but for a lot of people doing Hydra it solves nothing. People are doing Hydra and by extension Hydra clash and getting absolutely nothing for the Clash even if they finish top in their bracket, its moronic.
Everyone always complains about everything can’t ever win. Also i think it’s funny people want trunda fixed but it’s ok for people to manipulate the matchmaking system by tanking. They want to abuse what they can and cry about what they can’t!
That priority flag content is so fucking arrogant by Plarium. They are telling us how to play the game, but it’s in the most chaotic way possible
Bloody hell, why is no cc showing us what they have changed about the champion buffs? Especially lady iretah. You're all just acting like she hasn't gotten a buff. I wantto know what it is
It's almost as if they are actually trying to make the game worse
Looks like raid is the new raid killer....been watching updates hoping for a reason to comeback to the game...now it just feels like watching update videos is also a waste of time
13:49 "You would have Karnage."
Wait I thought you can only get him from Sintranos? huehue
This change is great... wtf are you talking about? the ONLY person not getting anything now is clan LEECHES! who do nothing for the clans
It's such a plarium fix. Like clan boss you get to auto it quickly if you can 1 key. Well shit who cares let me skip clan boss all the time what a huge time sink.
Hydra is the same thing, bad changes and no time saving qol in this patch. Lower the hydra turns to 1k or something so we don't have to spend 3-4 hours a week doing hydra ffs. People have lives.
Classic raid - fixing stuff with a delay and with left hand
nothing of siege was really thought out...they failed horribly at most every aspect of the mode. most everything you talked about makes siege billion times better and they dont have the ability to put that stuff in the game..they just dont care.
I really enjoy last Siege, we matched up a stronger clan and it was fun, we took down all their defenses and they did the same to us, I stopped having fun when I found out there was no winner. I do not understand how we don’t have a tie breaker in the game.
To me we won since it took us less attack scrolls to destroy them but the fact of the matter is neither one of us got that victory chest. Plarium needs to do better or this will be a problem every single siege for Mid to end game clans.
itll take me 20 hydra runs to get over 1.2 billion
Seems like more motivation to improve your teams!
@@SSuser-go7jmwe know what we gotta do to improve, we just aren’t getting the pulls to get there 😂
@@ollie5286 Most people who have been playing for the past year or so should have a Wixwell, Yannica and either Emic or Shy'Ek for taunt. One blown up max shield gets you roughly 1.2-1.3B damage just enough for max personal rewards every week. It should be accessible to everyone if you take Hydra even a little seriously. you don't even need Trunda or OP Mythicals to do that kinda of damage anymore, there's OP sleeper champs like Suzerain, Salad, Quintus, etc. That can put out hundreds of millions of damage in the right set up, a good chunk of people also recently pulled Wallmaster and Teox from the last couple prism shard events. They're obviously not Trunda level but they do very solid work.
At least it’s not all or nothing bud. You can always get the lower chests and improve your teams. Protection gear is key
@@Elixium_Watches im hitting normal -brutal for about 50-60 million after bonus per week. i usually get the worst chest on brutal and hard.
Trunda was never the issue, she was just first (or second if you consider Cadaver). The problem has always been the rewards, just keep trunda the same now with all these crazy teams, and just give us better rewards.