My family and I used to travel to our holiday home in Menorca from the late 1980’s until 2000, when my sister and I left home. At this time my parents moved there. I have watched the airport grow from reed covered departure gates walking out to the Dan air B1-11, B727 Monarch B737 all the way up to and Cal Air DC 10 - now the airport has jetways and a proper terminal - in a way this makes me sad as not only does this show an increase in visitors to my 2nd home- meaning hotels, roads etc have become the same as other holiday destinations but also means that the historic memories are purely that - memories, but at least I still have them. It was my flights on all these airlines and many more that brought on my love of aviation, flying but mainly aircraft - inspiring my to apply to be cabin- that resulted in 30 yrs in aviation firstly as Dan Air crew, then to be swallowed up by BA in the buy out
Thanks so much for sharing your memories. My family went to Menorca every year between 1972 and 1987. We flew many times with Dan Air. I remember once our Captain was Yvonne Sintes who at the time (I think) was the first female airline Captain in the UK. I do have found memories of Dan Air!
@@RogEdwardsTVincredible selection of aircraft all in one visit, I'm guessing that back in the early 70s there may have been more of a "changeover day" vibe hence it was so busy
I have flown on Comet 4's, Channel Airways, Dan Air and BEA Airtours/British Airtours. My least favourite jet aircraft. Too long ago to be sure exactly why but I think because of the high noise levels in the cabin due to the location of the engines. The Boeing 720 was an impressive aircraft to be used on holiday charter fights. Despite the stigma of operating from Luton as opposed to Gatwick, Monarch was one of the better UK charter airlines of the time, which was helped by using this type of aircraft and the provision of above average standards of holiday charter in-flight service. Laker did not fly to the med under the brand name of Skytrain. That was the brand name for the low cost transatlantic scheduled service. The confusion may have arisen due to the fact that all the DC10 aircraft carried the Skytrain branding and therefore if such an aircraft were to be operated on a holiday charter flight to the med (or even a transatlantic ABC charter flight) the the Skytrain name would be visible on the aircraft. Court Line aircraft did look nice from the outside but they were the Ryanair of their time and not the nicest airline to fly with with horrors such as 'seat back catering' awaiting their passengers on board.
Wow - thanks for all those memories and great info. I have vague memories of the Court Line back seat sandwiches, but I was only 5 or 6 so maybe I’ve invented memories from reading about them. I do remember rock hard, ice cold scones on the Dan Air flights a few years later though! 😀
Dan Dare Scareways as I recall it. They were and still are my favourite Airline, the only airline that has come close for me is Malèv, also sadly gone.
If you flew Dan Air, it stays with you forever! Funnily enough I was at Gatwick today and saw a check in desk for Dan Air! Yes it’s a Romanian airline! 😀✈️
Incredible footage! Takes me back to being a kid going to Majorca in 72 and 74 on the Mon 720b and Britannia 737 to Ibiza in 73. I recall seeing the two Courtline L1011 Pink and Yellow Tristars (Halcyon Days and Halcyon Breeze) parked up at Luton after Court went bust. They looked huge to a small lad like me too! I beleive those Tristars were eventually sold to Cathay Pacific. Gtreat memories.
+Vince G Thanks for sharing your memories! Great times. I do have more Super 8mm footage from around the same time, more Dan Air, maybe Orion. I just need to find it and get it converted to digital.
I wonder if that noisy Laker 707 was G-AVZZ? If so, I flew on it a couple times in 1974 when it was on loan to International Caribbean Airways of Barbados. It flew on scheduled flights to Barbados out of Gatwick and Luxembourg. And yes, it was noisy as heck, as was all the first generation jetliners. Beautiful memories!
Ach - pity the old footage is so grainy we can't be sure. Highly likely I'd say though - they didn't have many of those 707s as far as I know. Thanks for watching😀.
Excellent Roger thank you. I flew on a monarch 720b from Luton to ibiza in September 1978 so I'm privileged really as like you say they were pretty rare and it was my first time flying at 13 years old
My first flight Luton to Ibiza 1972 Court Line BAC1-11...had to turn back over the English Channel due to a hairline crack in the captains windscreen...6 hours later we take off again...great memories...flown on Dan Air 727 (and 1-11) Luton to Monastir, Monarch Boeing 720B Luton to Palma Britannia 737 200 Luton to several destinations Court Line 1-11's Luton to several destinations never did fly on the Tri Star...ah well or Monarchs Bristol Britannia's or Dan Air's Comet's
Loved this Roger - very evocative. Thanks. My parents first took me to the Spanish mainland in 1968 - in my mother's womb! Nerja apparently. We used to go a lot in the early 1970s, when Franco ruled. A different time. Still miss the Peseta!
Thanks Nick - I have a box full of these Super 8mm films - but no idea what’s on them (apart from holding them up to the light and looking) and it’s quite expensive to get them converted to digital. This was the only one my grandfather had written on. One word. TRISTAR.
@@RogEdwardsTV when BA acquired British Caledonian Airways they swapped used the new Caledonian name and used BA Tristars for holiday charter work whilst B Cals DC10's were absorbed into the British Airways fleet
Just came across your channel as must say very enjoyable and a trip down memory lane . I’m 49 and remember Dan air well and even featured in an only fools and horses episode. Subscribed now and look forward to more . Cheers my friend
+Watford Fc Thanks 🙏🏻. Alas that’s all the vintage footage I have - though there is a Dan Air Comet at the East Fortune museum which is just along the road - so I might visit that sometime soon.
Thank you for sharing. I wonder if anyone can help me with a little query. Im trying to identify an aircraft that i flew on back in 1988 (which i think was a BAC 1-11). I flew from Manchester to Ibiza and the carrier was Dan Air. We entered the plane from a set of folding stairs in the tail of the aircraft and i remember feeling the heat of the engines blowing into my face as i boarded. My seat was over the wing and the couple in front of me were facing me - that is, they were flying backwards. I think i was on the 1-11 but ive never seen the backward facing seat configuration since.
Dan Air’s BAC 1-11s and the B727s both had the rear tail doors but as afar as I know there were no backwards facing seats on either aircraft. Dan Air Comets did have backwards facing seats around the wing area but the last flight was in 1980. That probably doesn’t help much? 🤔
@@RogEdwardsTV it all helps, so thank you very much. The Comet looks a lot bigger than the plane we went on and I have pinned it down to the 1-11 or the 727, but the rear-facing seats over the wing have thrown me. It's the only time that I've seen such a seat configuration. Thanks again.
YES! The Pink Tristar was Halcyon Breeze and the Orange Tristar was Halcyon Days! All the BAC 1-11s also had names with Halcyon something: Halcyon Sun, Halcyon Beach etc! 😀
@@RogEdwardsTV I think it was orange but can't quite remember. I also have flown on a Dan Air Viscount to Guernsey from Bristol in the early 1980,s as the more unusual aircraft still flying that late
Good god man you are acting as if '73 was the time of Wiiliam the Conqurer and not PM Callahan. I visited Gatwick airport back in that period and there were many UK charter outfits which disappeared around that period. When I saw "Caledonian" even earlier in Amsterdam I wondered where in the world it was from?
Great to see the beautiful Court Line TriStar. Way ahead of its time. Now part of a fascinating era in UK airline history.
Thanks David. Those Courtline planes were so colourful. I remember flying to Spain in a turquoise BAC 1-11 and back on a pink one.
My family and I used to travel to our holiday home in Menorca from the late 1980’s until 2000, when my sister and I left home. At this time my parents moved there. I have watched the airport grow from reed covered departure gates walking out to the Dan air B1-11, B727 Monarch B737 all the way up to and Cal Air DC 10 - now the airport has jetways and a proper terminal - in a way this makes me sad as not only does this show an increase in visitors to my 2nd home- meaning hotels, roads etc have become the same as other holiday destinations but also means that the historic memories are purely that - memories, but at least I still have them. It was my flights on all these airlines and many more that brought on my love of aviation, flying but mainly aircraft - inspiring my to apply to be cabin- that resulted in 30 yrs in aviation firstly as Dan Air crew, then to be swallowed up by BA in the buy out
Thanks so much for sharing your memories. My family went to Menorca every year between 1972 and 1987. We flew many times with Dan Air. I remember once our Captain was Yvonne Sintes who at the time (I think) was the first female airline Captain in the UK. I do have found memories of Dan Air!
What amazing footage, a real piece of social history. Thanks so much for sharing ❤️
Thanks so much for watching. Those Courtliness Tristars looked amazing. ✈️
@@RogEdwardsTVincredible selection of aircraft all in one visit, I'm guessing that back in the early 70s there may have been more of a "changeover day" vibe hence it was so busy
@danielmorris1527 Yes! People even called it “Change Over Day!” I’m pretty sure it was a Friday. 😀
I have flown on Comet 4's, Channel Airways, Dan Air and BEA Airtours/British Airtours. My least favourite jet aircraft. Too long ago to be sure exactly why but I think because of the high noise levels in the cabin due to the location of the engines.
The Boeing 720 was an impressive aircraft to be used on holiday charter fights. Despite the stigma of operating from Luton as opposed to Gatwick, Monarch was one of the better UK charter airlines of the time, which was helped by using this type of aircraft and the provision of above average standards of holiday charter in-flight service.
Laker did not fly to the med under the brand name of Skytrain. That was the brand name for the low cost transatlantic scheduled service. The confusion may have arisen due to the fact that all the DC10 aircraft carried the Skytrain branding and therefore if such an aircraft were to be operated on a holiday charter flight to the med (or even a transatlantic ABC charter flight) the the Skytrain name would be visible on the aircraft.
Court Line aircraft did look nice from the outside but they were the Ryanair of their time and not the nicest airline to fly with with horrors such as 'seat back catering' awaiting their passengers on board.
Wow - thanks for all those memories and great info. I have vague memories of the Court Line back seat sandwiches, but I was only 5 or 6 so maybe I’ve invented memories from reading about them. I do remember rock hard, ice cold scones on the Dan Air flights a few years later though! 😀
Dan Dare Scareways as I recall it. They were and still are my favourite Airline, the only airline that has come close for me is Malèv, also sadly gone.
If you flew Dan Air, it stays with you forever! Funnily enough I was at Gatwick today and saw a check in desk for Dan Air! Yes it’s a Romanian airline! 😀✈️
Incredible footage! Takes me back to being a kid going to Majorca in 72 and 74 on the Mon 720b and Britannia 737 to Ibiza in 73. I recall seeing the two Courtline L1011 Pink and Yellow Tristars (Halcyon Days and Halcyon Breeze) parked up at Luton after Court went bust. They looked huge to a small lad like me too! I beleive those Tristars were eventually sold to Cathay Pacific. Gtreat memories.
+Vince G Thanks for sharing your memories! Great times. I do have more Super 8mm footage from around the same time, more Dan Air, maybe Orion. I just need to find it and get it converted to digital.
@Mark Hepworth wow you never know maybe she did!
@Mark Hepworth The 720 ignited my love of aviation. Glad your Mum enjoyed it. All the best!
So glad this old footage has brought back some happy memories! Thanks for watching guys! 😀
I wonder if that noisy Laker 707 was G-AVZZ? If so, I flew on it a couple times in 1974 when it was on loan to International Caribbean Airways of Barbados. It flew on scheduled flights to Barbados out of Gatwick and Luxembourg. And yes, it was noisy as heck, as was all the first generation jetliners. Beautiful memories!
Ach - pity the old footage is so grainy we can't be sure. Highly likely I'd say though - they didn't have many of those 707s as far as I know. Thanks for watching😀.
Roger, your channel is absolutely brilliant. I hope you continue to post on here. Kind regards Ian.
Thanks so much, Ian. Much appreciated. 😀
Excellent Roger thank you. I flew on a monarch 720b from Luton to ibiza in September 1978 so I'm privileged really as like you say they were pretty rare and it was my first time flying at 13 years old
+Michael pound Thanks - I never got to fly in one! I think it was 1987 I first flew Monarch - in a 757.
My first flight Luton to Ibiza 1972 Court Line BAC1-11...had to turn back over the English Channel due to a hairline crack in the captains windscreen...6 hours later we take off again...great memories...flown on Dan Air 727 (and 1-11) Luton to Monastir, Monarch Boeing 720B Luton to Palma Britannia 737 200 Luton to several destinations Court Line 1-11's Luton to several destinations never did fly on the Tri Star...ah well or Monarchs Bristol Britannia's or Dan Air's Comet's
Wow thanks for that! Lots of great memories there! 😀✈️
Loved this Roger - very evocative. Thanks. My parents first took me to the Spanish mainland in 1968 - in my mother's womb! Nerja apparently. We used to go a lot in the early 1970s, when Franco ruled. A different time. Still miss the Peseta!
Thanks Nick - I have a box full of these Super 8mm films - but no idea what’s on them (apart from holding them up to the light and looking) and it’s quite expensive to get them converted to digital. This was the only one my grandfather had written on. One word. TRISTAR.
My uncle was a flight engineer for Laker airways up to its demise
Oh wow! Do you have photos from back then? 😀
@@RogEdwardsTV No I dont unfortunately
Courtline was the lainch customer in the UK for the Tristar
Indeed. I know BA had some Tristars - did any other UK airline have them? 🤔
@@RogEdwardsTV when BA acquired British Caledonian Airways they swapped used the new Caledonian name and used BA Tristars for holiday charter work whilst B Cals DC10's were absorbed into the British Airways fleet
@@stephenport4768 Thanks for that - very interesting.
Just came across your channel as must say very enjoyable and a trip down memory lane . I’m 49 and remember Dan air well and even featured in an only fools and horses episode. Subscribed now and look forward to more . Cheers my friend
+Watford Fc Thanks 🙏🏻. Alas that’s all the vintage footage I have - though there is a Dan Air Comet at the East Fortune museum which is just along the road - so I might visit that sometime soon.
Thank you for sharing. I wonder if anyone can help me with a little query. Im trying to identify an aircraft that i flew on back in 1988 (which i think was a BAC 1-11). I flew from Manchester to Ibiza and the carrier was Dan Air. We entered the plane from a set of folding stairs in the tail of the aircraft and i remember feeling the heat of the engines blowing into my face as i boarded. My seat was over the wing and the couple in front of me were facing me - that is, they were flying backwards. I think i was on the 1-11 but ive never seen the backward facing seat configuration since.
Dan Air’s BAC 1-11s and the B727s both had the rear tail doors but as afar as I know there were no backwards facing seats on either aircraft.
Dan Air Comets did have backwards facing seats around the wing area but the last flight was in 1980.
That probably doesn’t help much? 🤔
@@RogEdwardsTV it all helps, so thank you very much. The Comet looks a lot bigger than the plane we went on and I have pinned it down to the 1-11 or the 727, but the rear-facing seats over the wing have thrown me. It's the only time that I've seen such a seat configuration.
Thanks again.
Hi Laker Airways only used 'Skytrain' on their schedeled North Atlantic services
Thanks for that! The brand was so strong at the time, I think we all assumed it referred to the whole network! 😀
Courtline had a Tristan which was pink. I know because it was the first plane I ever flew on in the early 70’s. It was named halcyon breeze
YES! The Pink Tristar was Halcyon Breeze and the Orange Tristar was Halcyon Days! All the BAC 1-11s also had names with Halcyon something: Halcyon Sun, Halcyon Beach etc! 😀
Gosh didn't even know Monarch had folded. Flew to Tunisia with them around 2000. Those trijets have a reputation for being very dangerous!
+Queen of Swords Monarch was a decent airline! Good memories! 🙏🏻
My first flight when I was 11 in 1974 was on Courtline Lockheed TriStar from Luton to Alicante a few months before they went bust.
+Andrew Browning that’s really cool. I imagine it was quite densely seated - but must have been a great experience.
@@RogEdwardsTV I think it was orange but can't quite remember. I also have flown on a Dan Air Viscount to Guernsey from Bristol in the early 1980,s as the more unusual aircraft still flying that late
I once flew on a Monarch 720b
+Roger wild Fab! That was the only time I ever saw one! 😊
T'was many a year ago now.
I remember it as I originally thought it was a mini 707.
I also flew on one of the Dan Dare Comet 4c s Manchester to Girona
Laker didn’t fly to Med under “SkyTrain” that was USA!
Thanks - the Laker and Skytrain brand was so strong at the time we all thought it applied to the whole network! ☺️
Flew om them all, including Bcal
I do have some BCal footage on Super 8mm - but get it digitised and do another vintage vlog. 😀
DAN AIR WERE THE BEST
+Lee Simmons 👍🏻Lots of childhood memories of flying with them!
Good god man you are acting as if '73 was the time of Wiiliam the Conqurer and not PM Callahan. I visited Gatwick airport back in that period and there were many UK charter outfits which disappeared around that period. When I saw "Caledonian" even earlier in Amsterdam I wondered where in the world it was from?
Thanks for the info! 😀