@@bencelaczko9123 Yeah, and also the velarised "L"... I like it nevertheless and think it's nice, but indeed there's quite an audible Anglophone accent there...
@@bencelaczko9123 well, it's annoying but after hearing my classmates trying to speak english and spanish, that's quite tolerable to me (ps: we speak portuguese, theoretically spanish should be ease to pronounce in a understandable way, since they're similar languages, nope, they sounds like they're trying to summon a demon in romanian)
Scooby Labbé actually the eclesiastic latin derive from the studies pf the roman orator Quintilianus who sad that that version (the ecclesiastic one) was the most sophisticate and the most used by the elite
Gratias! Est magnifica! (or is it magnificus? magnifico? Amo Latin, et ego am trying to teach myself the language, sed it's not going to well, as tu can see.)
I never liked Jingle bells, it sounds like a silly song for little children. But THIS is different! I genuinely liked this song. Never knew Latin could be actually nicer than English
It's pronounced like Italian mostly in Italy because of the Ecclesiastical tradition which kept using Latin until the 1960s when it was permitted to celebrate Mass in languages other than Latin. There are many solid proofs that show that Classical Latin wasn't pronounced like Italian, especially when it comes to consonants: v didn't exist, neither did "soft" g or c. Phonetics change during time, that's why starting from a common Language phonetic systems of languages like French, Spanish and Italian differ from one another. In some places in Sardinia, however, c and g are still pronounced as always hard, which remained unchanged from Latin.
Ecclesiastical pronunciation isn't wrong, and nor is classical. They're both right. And it's not completely accurate because he doesn't pronounce Ts correctly and you can hear accent.
Ci Ce we pronunciate in italian/latin like the ch in "cheese" or "chester". Ca, Co, Cu like Karate, Comet, Ku Klux Klan... "Chi" and "Che" are pronunciated as Kit or Kerosene.
It's because he is using the classic pronunciation. The ecclesiastical pronunciation is the one you're talking about, which uses different words, different syntax and the pseudo italian pronunciation. (sorry for the possible mistakes, not native)
Iván Montalvo Sorry... but in Latin they pronunciate as Italian... a part from dittongues (ae, oe) and some other very very small differences.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_spelling_and_pronunciation#Consonants :-)
Tommaso Napoli Ivan is right. The ecclesiastical way of speaking is very Italian and is usually how songs are choirs will sing Latin; however, most classics departments in the US will use the restored Classical pronunciation which is the best approximation of what Latin sounded like in 1st AD Rome. His pronunciation according to this standard is very good.
Jennifer Judge I checked and you are true. But it sounds very very strange to me :-) And may I still do not understand why sing Jingle bells (a song from 1857) il classical latin with 1st AD pronunciation. But this should be not in my concern :-)
Tommaso Napoli ci in latin should be like civil not like cheese, its wrong, italians speak like that because they think latin and italian are same but they are not!
I am personally very inclined to the Ecclesiastical pronunciation, but anything produced for scholastic use in the US and UK pretty much needs to be in the so-called reconstructed classical pronunciation.
Unfortunately, the transcript show a poorly interpreted phonetic spelling which obscures the actual Latin words. Will have to play video with pauses to copy the actual words, then translate.
Jingle Bells in Latin! (Translated by Charles Mierow) Nives, glacies, nox, puertia! Risus decet, nunc decent carmina! Laetos iuvat nos ire per agros! Traha fert velociter, et cachinemus nos! CHORUS: Tinniat, tinniat tintinnabulum Labimur in glacie post mulum curtum! Tinniat, tinniat tintinnabulum! Labimur in glacie post mulum curtum! Me nuper miserum temptavit lunae lux! Mox assidebat tum puella facti dux! Vecti subito in nivis cumulos Caballus est perterritus et tunc eversi nos! CHORUS. Solum scintillat, nive candidum, Repetatur nunc concentus carminum! Canities abest morosa omnibus! Puellulas cum pueris delectat hic cursus. CHORUS.
Gratias tivi, ivcvndissimvs fit. Nobis insvper delectat, qvod hic cantatvm est more classico, non more ecclesiastico. - (signatvr: Toomas Karmo, in vice Tõravere, in municipio Nõo, in re publica Estonia)
If you speak Ecclesiastical Latin, then you obviously pronounce the words differently to him. He speaks Classical Latin-the Latin of Caesar and Cicero-and his pronunciation is fine.
Tout ressemble à la musique que c’est comme let it be des Beatles Et la panthère noire en peluche du soldat rose Et les comédiens de aznavour Et la chanson de l’extraterrestre de Émilie jolie Et alouette gentille alouette Et twelve days of christmas Et hamilton
When you gotta storm Carthage but the kids back home are celebrating Saturnalia.
Brendan Short lol
Yeah, you just said it: saturnalia.
Saturnalia was created after the birth of our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ.
I remember singing this once in 6th-grade Latin and somehow still know the lyrics for the chorus 10 years later. I'm speechless
Latin is immortal! :)
@@keithmassey9804 YES
DUDE! The exact same for me
Me too
World language has told me this
It's only two days ago that I was explaining how useful Latin could be. Thanks, quite made my morning.
Very glad I could make your day.
Incredible how everything in Latin is more Epic!
Right??!!
There's a reason Rome ruled the known World.
Firmly believe Rome would've conquered North America in their prime.
So that's how ancient Romans used to sing it. Oh wait...
Hahahhaahhaah
zniesmaczony am I dumb because I dont understand the Joke?
the joke is the Romans didn't have Christmas
They had Saturnalia
@@thiesb5 The joke IS that the christians killed all the grecorroman culture and they didn't had Christmas, they had Saturnalia.
Extremely nice. Great images, great performance. I don't mind Classical or Ecclesiastical pronunciation.
This is nice but it kinda has a too hard English accent
Nah, it's really annoying. It literally cuts out my eardrum with its English Ts and Rs and with its American tone. It's unbearable for me, sorry.
@@bencelaczko9123 Yeah, and also the velarised "L"... I like it nevertheless and think it's nice, but indeed there's quite an audible Anglophone accent there...
This is supposed to be classical latin
@@bencelaczko9123 well, it's annoying but after hearing my classmates trying to speak english and spanish, that's quite tolerable to me (ps: we speak portuguese, theoretically spanish should be ease to pronounce in a understandable way, since they're similar languages, nope, they sounds like they're trying to summon a demon in romanian)
Why do you criticise him? Solely recall that they are US citizens and, therefore, the only language they truthfully speak well is their mother tongue.
My students really enjoyed it. GRATIAS.
+Carla James Gratias Tibi!
😳
Ah! Nice to hear the classical Latin pronunciation! None of that 'medieval' Latin stuff!
Scooby Labbé actually the eclesiastic latin derive from the studies pf the roman orator Quintilianus who sad that that version (the ecclesiastic one) was the most sophisticate and the most used by the elite
I prefer the Ecclesiastical one
The english accent do that this not sound like the classic latin.
So ecclesiastic latin is the "elite" latin and the reconstitued is the vulgar?
This is not proper latin... He says um in words... when a nasalized u is what should be said.
I remember singing this in my Latin grammar school
Now, we need an orchestral version. That would be Santa Claus' boss music!
Gratias! Est magnifica! (or is it magnificus? magnifico? Amo Latin, et ego am trying to teach myself the language, sed it's not going to well, as tu can see.)
Magnificum, because implicitly you are saying "Id carmen est magnificum" (this song is great). And carmen is neuter.
Thanks.
Julius Caesar I am from Germany and I learned this at School
Magnificum because carmen (song) is a neuter boun
Bona fortuna, amico meo
Thank you so much for the video and lyrics. I am especially thankful that you clearly annunciated the words. :)
I never liked Jingle bells, it sounds like a silly song for little children. But THIS is different! I genuinely liked this song. Never knew Latin could be actually nicer than English
Echt tolles Lied höre ich gerne in der schönen Weinachtszeit jetzt😂😅🥰❄️❄️
tinnio, tinnire, tinnivi, tinnitum is where we get the word "tinnitus".
Thanks, my ears be ringing again.
I got tinnitus lmao
I first heard this version in 1959. How fun!
This is the best thing ever, thank you for making it.
And thank you for making my day! :)
We have the same last name! Also u helped me in a bunch of Latin tests! Tysm!
I love it! Very nice.
Thanks to my latin teacher ^^ ♥
I am glad you enjoyed it...
Yes it's really cool ^^
Una carminis qui multa pulchra est,
Tui laboris bona est (bravo!)
1:55
Ah the PROPER pronunciation of Latin! Brilliant :)
That is not. I'm Italian and I study Latin. It has to be pronounced like italian
It's pronounced like Italian mostly in Italy because of the Ecclesiastical tradition which kept using Latin until the 1960s when it was permitted to celebrate Mass in languages other than Latin. There are many solid proofs that show that Classical Latin wasn't pronounced like Italian, especially when it comes to consonants: v didn't exist, neither did "soft" g or c. Phonetics change during time, that's why starting from a common Language phonetic systems of languages like French, Spanish and Italian differ from one another. In some places in Sardinia, however, c and g are still pronounced as always hard, which remained unchanged from Latin.
Ecclesiastical pronunciation isn't wrong, and nor is classical. They're both right.
And it's not completely accurate because he doesn't pronounce Ts correctly and you can hear accent.
English-speaking accent *
@@eleonoracarcarino1766 no. all Cs were pronounced /k/.
The one song in Latin that doesn't sound dramatic
Nice idea !!
est bonum! Gratias
Vere non tam bonum est. Si verum fatear, non sequitur verborum longitudines. Tamen, bene excogitavit carmen.
excelent video, thnks for share to us
Terimakasi sudah membuat lagu natal versi latin,tuhan yesus memberkati,amin...
You have a very nice song I am singing the song right now
I wish such videos already existed when i had latin at school!😭😭😭😭
Quam pulchra lingua Latina est!
Certe, sic est! Recte dicis!
nego
Wunderbar!
Amazing!
its so hard to sing this i have to do this for my school
Play this bop at my funeral
Thanks for the song very good
Ci Ce we pronunciate in italian/latin like the ch in "cheese" or "chester". Ca, Co, Cu like Karate, Comet, Ku Klux Klan... "Chi" and "Che" are pronunciated as Kit or Kerosene.
It's because he is using the classic pronunciation. The ecclesiastical pronunciation is the one you're talking about, which uses different words, different syntax and the pseudo italian pronunciation. (sorry for the possible mistakes, not native)
Iván Montalvo Sorry... but in Latin they pronunciate as Italian... a part from dittongues (ae, oe) and some other very very small differences.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_spelling_and_pronunciation#Consonants :-)
Tommaso Napoli Ivan is right. The ecclesiastical way of speaking is very Italian and is usually how songs are choirs will sing Latin; however, most classics departments in the US will use the restored Classical pronunciation which is the best approximation of what Latin sounded like in 1st AD Rome. His pronunciation according to this standard is very good.
Jennifer Judge I checked and you are true. But it sounds very very strange to me :-) And may I still do not understand why sing Jingle bells (a song from 1857) il classical latin with 1st AD pronunciation. But this should be not in my concern :-)
Tommaso Napoli ci in latin should be like civil not like cheese, its wrong, italians speak like that because they think latin and italian are same but they are not!
Bravo! I really enjoyed it! Thank you!
Hoc carminum valde me delectat. Una id gaudeamus!
Gratias tibi ago ! Felix nativitas !
Signum photographicum tuum mihi quoque placuit : sunt simila !
Seems to me the stresses are wrong: glaciES, puertiA, decEt, carminA, agrOs..
I was just doing my best to fit the words to the tune of Jingle Bells.
Lol! This is great! I wonder how it would sound with liturgical pronunciation, instead of classical pronunciation..?🤔🎄
A very nice good song
Why wouldn’t you sing a Christmas song in Ecclesiastical Latin?
I am personally very inclined to the Ecclesiastical pronunciation, but anything produced for scholastic use in the US and UK pretty much needs to be in the so-called reconstructed classical pronunciation.
I absolutely love it
In jeder Hinsicht wunderbar.
danke schön
Unfortunately, the transcript show a poorly interpreted phonetic spelling which obscures the actual Latin words. Will have to play video with pauses to copy the actual words, then translate.
Jingle Bells in Latin! (Translated by Charles Mierow)
Nives, glacies, nox, puertia!
Risus decet, nunc decent carmina!
Laetos iuvat nos ire per agros!
Traha fert velociter, et cachinemus nos!
CHORUS: Tinniat, tinniat tintinnabulum
Labimur in glacie post mulum curtum!
Tinniat, tinniat tintinnabulum!
Labimur in glacie post mulum curtum!
Me nuper miserum temptavit lunae lux!
Mox assidebat tum puella facti dux!
Vecti subito in nivis cumulos
Caballus est perterritus et tunc eversi nos!
CHORUS.
Solum scintillat, nive candidum,
Repetatur nunc concentus carminum!
Canities abest morosa omnibus!
Puellulas cum pueris delectat hic cursus.
CHORUS.
mediusfidius^^ risu e sella eversus sum. "mulus curtus", "caballus perterritus" et alia curiosa cachinnum meum suscitarunt:D
May I ask. Why aren't you using the word Rangifer for reindeer. It's the Binomial name for raindeer (Latin name). I'm just asking to learn.
We have to learn this and Rudolph the deformed reindeerskin and this one is so much easier
I will be releasing a Latin version of Rudolph the Rednosed Reindeer by the end of the week. :)
@@keithmassey9804 t h a n k y o u you are a lifesaver
Amazing
Fantastic
Love it!
Vivat Latine!!
très bonne musique surtout pour élève
Pulcherrime!
Thanks! :D
Why do I feel like I'm summoning a different kind of Santa?
I'm italian and he have an heavy english accent
Quis est hic, vigilantes ludum non solum propter hoc, quod non est?
Pulcra carmina el clara vox. Canto isto ite mensis Mai. Optime!
Tintinnabula!
Klasse ❤ 🎉😊
Are you related to Kyle Massey????? I LOVE Corey in the house
Ciceronian Latin?
I doubt that you have researched this video.
Gratias tivi, ivcvndissimvs fit. Nobis insvper delectat, qvod hic cantatvm est more classico, non more ecclesiastico. - (signatvr: Toomas Karmo, in vice Tõravere, in municipio Nõo, in re publica Estonia)
Throw in a Dope Beat, some Roman gold-chains, a few dozen foxy strippers... and we have ourselves an away-game
"~grachie".....not "~gllaquie"
+Andres Camilo Sierra Hormiga En latín clásico la c se pronuncia /k/ y la gl como hoy en día.
Now I'm confused, because my Latin teacher taught us "Tinnitus, Tinnitus, temper Tinnitus" was he wrong...?
MentalMelodies You can translate things in multiple ways
LES PAROLES SVP ??!!
Canticum Barbarorum Romanum factum est!
Tinniat, Batman foetet,
Erithacus ovum paruit.
Currus vespertilionis rotam amaisit
Et Pinguinus fugit.
The pronunciation of some words are not correct.
KimJayson Villezca For example?
"For example" most of them... very Anglican accent. He can't even get the "t" sound right.
Yadangable I agree about the "T" sound. What else?
only the "s" sounds weird
If you speak Ecclesiastical Latin, then you obviously pronounce the words differently to him. He speaks Classical Latin-the Latin of Caesar and Cicero-and his pronunciation is fine.
epic
Thank you, Sir!
I speak latin
Bene. Frigus. Me quoque.
♥
Hello period 2
Nunc primum latine hoc audio
Et ego quoque
Ave me gusta !
Let the Pope try to cancel this! 😆
Leider manchmal falsch betont, aber coole Sache
Every thing sound better in Latin.
Io Saturnalia
Io! Yo!
Tinniat
Tout ressemble à la musique que c’est comme let it be des Beatles
Et la panthère noire en peluche du soldat rose
Et les comédiens de aznavour
Et la chanson de l’extraterrestre de Émilie jolie
Et alouette gentille alouette
Et twelve days of christmas
Et hamilton
Et when the saints go marching in
Et la chanson du tico tico no fuba
Yes yes yes
niceeee
Thank you!
Buonissimo video, se non per la pronuncia inglese molto marcata che rovina un po' il tutto...
dio mio
Very good !! Heu sorry I don't speak english but very good!! Bon dsl c tout ce que je sais dire
MéluNana Ton anglais n’est pas trop mauvais. Parles-tu latin ?
Die Deutschen sind da!
Many pronunciations are WRONG
fucking awesome
latin teacher made us sing this. 0/10.
Mullsyjunior that’s why i’m here
do not say that about this absolute bop. always the highlight of the school year
nos or nōs
X
D
ae=e
🤣
Vivat Latine!