i can’t even imagine what his wife had to go through!! first hearing her husbands last words, then having to finish a pregnancy without him, giving birth, and raising Sarah while he’s gone . i hope she has healed 🤍🤍
I think its incredibly selfish of him to go to a dangerous thrillseeking adventure when he has a family at home who depended on him. That poor wife and child😢
I have little sympathy for him. What kind of father to be decides to selfishly do life threatening things which would leave their wife and baby alone without a dad.
This episode immediately made me think of my uncle James Kagambi who just this past January was the first Kenyan who summited Mt. Everest, and he’s 62 YEARS OLD! I have such respect and really commend everyone whose tried to do this
My cousin is one of the few women to summit Everest. She actually met her husband on her first summit- said she knew it was true love when he offered to empty her urine canister!
these sherpas were so incredibly brave. i can’t imagine risking your life because someone is taking a risk you’re telling them not to. it is so sad that they are underpaid and disrespected.
Yes! That's what makes me angry. These people did this to themselves, and in addition they endanger the lives of the Sherpas and get the rescue team killed. All this for a "yay" moment? 😢
My uncle was a base camp guide, but he never peaked the mountain. Something about "he's not stupid enough to do that". I really gotta sit him down and hear his crazy stories
why hasnt he climbed it yet; the risk to reward for him should have been insane, yes it dangerous but when you see non experienced people do it with ease. Must be some good stories tho.
I agree that climbing Mt Everest doesn’t hold the same prestige as it once did. My view of expeditions have been soured after hearing so many stories of people who leave others behind on the mountain simply because they “paid to summit so they are going to summit” or people taking unnecessary risks…. It seems to be so wrapped up in money that so many decisions are made that go against better judgement….. plus waiting in line with 200 of my ‘friends’ to climb a mountain trying to breathe through a straw sounds less than amazing. Thanks for covering this story though. Such a tragedy
Do people climb for prestige? Or for the personal challenge? The latter one doesn’t change regardless of the number of people become the first of best whatever.
I went down the Mt. Everest rabbit hole a few years ago when I learned about how the bodies often stay there for long periods of time. I didn't realize how dangerous it was until hearing so many stories.
There’s a lot of concern right now because of the melting snow and ice on the mountain because it’s making these climbers harder and harder to move around. They’re also trying to plan major cleanup efforts, but it’s difficult when they keep stumbling across bodies.
I am with Kendall, I can never understand the appeal of climbing those dangerous mountains. Aside from it being so hard, your chances of getting up and down safely with all of your fingers, toas and life are slim. Kudos to those who do it and love it. I could never do it.
I feel bad for the Sherpa. They deserve far more recognition for their hard work. It’s also awful to hear about the pollution and garbage allover the mountain. 😢
Ive heard this story many times. And the part about Rob's phone call always brings me to tears. I literally cannot imagine speaking to the person I love knowing that would be the last time. Thanks for covering this. I enjoy these types of topics the most 💚💙💜✌️
''He didn't want to leave her, but he didn't have much of a choice. Neil felt her hand slip away and he walked forward without looking back.'' - I cannot fathom how difficult and traumatizing that must have been. How does a person cope with that, I feel so awful for that guy. :(
My dad went down the Everest rabbit hole about 4 years ago. He visited base camp, and even on that (10 day) hike alone some of his peers passed in their sleep due to issues with altitude adjustments.
I've watched a handful of documentaries about mountain climbing and Mt. Everest. The Sherpa people that work on these mountains go out and set up everything for people to cross, they do double the work but generally get screwed over or are never recognized. And with climate change its made mountain climbing so much more dangerous with huge melts and unstable areas on the mountain.
This just further adds to the selfishness of people who choose to climb Everest. It’s honestly bad from every single perspective, aside from a feeling of personal triumph if you’re successful I guess?
I know a little bit about climbing community and I kind of understand the need of thrill and adrenaline they experience, but there's one thing I don't get at all. How people that have small, dependent children can risk their life on purpose, because they need fun, rush of adrenaline or whatever you want to call it. It's totally beyond my understanding. For me, if you have a child, you are 100% responsible for them. It is your duty to give them safety and protection untill they can be on their own. How does it correlate with throwing yourself into life-threathning situation simply for fun? Sorry, I don't have respect for those people. "Don't worry too much." Hell yea, she is a pregnant woman that is loosing her husband and now will struggle for years with giving birth and caring for child all by herself, and her baby will grow without a father, but sure SHE SHOULDN'T BE WORRYING TOO MUCH. And I know some will say "But they HAVE TO. This is their nature, their call, to climb and reach for the sky.". That's fine for me, but if someone needs this so badly, then they shouldn't have children. You can't have a cookie and eat a cookie. I heard that people call them "heroes". Sorry, but for me heroes are those widows/ widowers and their children, that will struggle with grief, finances, development issues and other stuff for YEARS, because their father/ mother/ husband/ wife wanted to have some thrill and prioritize it over wellbeing of their family (and especially children that heavily depends on them).
You’re so right about this. These people aren’t going off to war, to protect their country, they’re partaking in a dangerous hobby and it’s irresponsible to not think of how the negative consequences will affect their love ones/ dependents. If you want to make this your life’s work, then don’t get married, don’t have children…simple as that. Don’t burden people with the aftermath of your death just because you thought you could challenge nature and lost.
Rob Hall was a person friend of my science teacher back in the days. She told us this story when we had to review John Krakauer and Anatoli Boukreevs books Into Thin Air and The Climb. She could not tell the story without tears in her eyes. She lived and worked as a science teacher in Nepal during this incident.
Hi Kendall and Josh! I look forward to your Mile Higher Podcasts, as well as Kendall's UA-cam channel and Josh's "Lights Out" channel. You both always report on every single case with compassion, accuracy, and respect for the victims and their families. Thank you for always being so incredible with everything you bring to your channels. Keep up the amazing work! You both are true professionals!❤
Many people forget about the sherpas - they‘re constantly being put in dangerous situations because some people ignore their own limits. My highest respect goes out to the sherpas! I wouldn‘t climb Mt. Everest even if someone payed me to do so.. it sounds horrific.
The sherpas are so incredibly skilled and are crucial to people climbing everest. It is so unfortunate how many of them die trying to save people who didn't know their own limits. They seem to be incredibly selfless people, so it breaks my heart not many people mention them!
Love that you guys are covering this, what an incredible story. Don't know why but these climbing/mountaineering stories are so fascinating to me, even though I'm totally on Kendall's side, no f'ing way would I do it
Can't imagine what the deceased's families feel. I'm sure their family and loved ones were so worried for them going up just to hear the most tragic news that they couldn't make it down. A real nightmare come true. I know if I ever wanted to climb Mt Everest (I don't), I would make my mom ill of stress!
People LIVE for mountain climbing. They are fully aware of the dangers. As for the price - a lot of these climbers are sponsored athletes and that’ll help pay for it, or save their whole lives for the 7 summits. A goal of mine is to go to base camp but I’m not fit enough to get there yet.
Universal Studios made the movie ‘Everest’, in 2015, with Jake Gyllenhaal and Jason Clarke that is entirely based on this story and the minute by minute details of this tragic event. I keep hearing you guys reference the IMAX film but I honestly believe the one made in 2015 is much better made. It’s incredible and very moving, especially the scenes with Jason Clarke, who played Rob.
‘Everest’ is based on the true story but some minor events have been changed. Some of the plot never happened but the basic plot is is true, and the main characters are based on the real people.
Would be nice if all those people could come together and raise funds for a clean up situation I know they can't get everything from all the camps and bodies but it's becoming trashed up there at this point
It’s mind boggling to me that 1/4 of climbers who make it to the summit don’t make it down. So what this means is 25% of people who accomplish the climb die! That’s insane, most people wouldn’t do anything with a 25% mortality rate, even if they were paid😮😮😮, let alone pay to do it!!!
I’m curious where that statistic cane from because that was also mind-boggling to me and when I looked it up it said that the statistic was 4% of those who reach the summit die
*At 37m. 50sec. ALL of the CLimbers but One, were NearLy KiLLed!!!! (SIC) I Stopped Listening Right there!!!* *BLocking MiLe Higher!!!! To Get My Info. ELsewhere!!!!*
I love mhp so much I’ve watch all 240+ episodes 5x+ over each since episode 1 I’ve always just rewatched Over and over until the next episode forever will be my comfort show and big respect for the dedication
I think a small minority actually climb this to fill some sort of void of feeling alive or small. The vast majority of the people who do this actually do it to feel better than others. It’s not a challenge to push yourself it’s an ego thing lol I feel that’s what Kendall is getting at but won’t say it. The appeal is being a big shot. People need to admit that lol It’s literally ego food.
Everest might be the tallest mountain in the world, but Denali is the High One. Mountain are measured from sea level to the summit. Everest is 29,032, Denali is 20,320. But let’s get real here. From base camp to the summit, Everest has a vertical rise of 11,436 feet. From base camp to summit, Denali has a vertical rise 18,000 feet. Which means your climbing 6,546 more feet on Denali. On Everest you have Sherpas helping climbers. Sherpas carries loads of equipment/supplies to all the camps up the mountain, they set up the higher camps, they lay out the route, set rope, ladder through the Khumbu Icefalls. But on Denali, there are no Sherpas, you have to carry your equipment and supplies up the mountain. Starting at base camp on Denali, you carry about 80lbs in your backpack, plus you are pulling a sled full on gear behind you as you climb to camp one. Once at camp one you unload your gear and head back down to base camp for more gear. By the time you reach the summit of Denali, you basically have climbed the mountain 5 times, because of all the climbing up and down the mountain getting your gear up the mountain. Oh and let’s not forget having to make a snow packed wall around your tent to block the high winds. I’ve summited both Everest and Denali, and physically Denali was so much harder because you are your own Sherpa. While Everest was mentally tougher, colder and the crowds at the Hillary Step put you at risk of dying while you wait for people who have no business being on the mountain navigate the ladders, ropes. Now I just stay close to home, and climb 14ers in the San Juan Mountains in Colorado.
Awesome job, Team MH! What an interesting, fascinating, horrific, edge-of-my-seat episode this was. I'm right there with you: the Milky Way sounds awesome, but this trek is way, way, WAY down in the frozen bottom of my bucket. I can't imagine trying to navigate unfamiliar territory in the dark, freezing cold. What courage, determination and focus these climbers and sherpas have. And what an incredible accomplishment to get even anywhere close to the summit. Respect.
We get hurricane force winds in colorado. I know personally how damaging they can be. On 11/10/2011 while driving home with my mom a friend, our vehicle got hit with a microburst measured at 110mph. All the windows in the car busted out. Except for the windshield. Even the rearview mirror got knocked off. We have rocks, gravel and glass inbedded in our heads. It was horrible and terrifying. I hate the wind to this day.
I remember in high school we had a couple who climbed mount everest come to our school to give a speech on their experience and it stuck with me for a while because before that I really had no idea how dangerous it was.
Wow, your videos have never made me cry and I was driving listening to this, and I ended up with tears in my eyes listening to one who said sleep well to his wife xx
As an Alpine climber myself, this story always hit hard. There was so many bad decisions from a lot of people that contributed to this along with the storm that comes once every 50 years. Tragic
I saw Everest on IMAX many years ago at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago and it is cool that it is getting some screen time again. It is a very powerful documentary. Rest in peace to all of the courageous climbers and sherpas that have lost their lives on Mt. Everest. 💗 My thoughts and prayers are with their surviving family members and loved ones.
I‘m so excited for this episode! I’ve been a fan of author Jon Krakauer forever, his book on this disaster was so good. Such bad luck for him to be part of this exact mission. He has also written the book about Chris Mccandless and others about issues pertaining to the military, the Mormon church and college sports SA.
This was an amazing episode. Thank you for highlighting all the different sides of climbing Mt. Everest including the spiritual background and environmental impact. 💚
When I heard Kendall comment about this episode in the Sesh I thought “didn’t you already talked about this in MH?”, i guess I had already seen this episode in another dimension, I’ve got some Mandela effect going with this one 😅
Morbid fact Some of the bodies that are in the death zone that are unrecoverable are used as marking points. Literally you have to pass next to them to reach the summit.
Imagine knowing your loved one is now just a marker for other travelers. Very sad to me … I’d hate to know my dad or husband now just sat there being referred to as “green boots” or a mile marker essentially
I feel bad for all the people who died in this summit, and I feel conflicted bc I simply cannot not blame Rob for a lot of it, and it's harsh bc he died too, but he was the guide, he is supposed to be the professional and experienced one. Those people's well beings are in YOUR hands and if you soften and blend rules for some in such a life-death situation, then only tragic ends will take place. YOU GUIDE, YOU TELL THEM NO. This is a cautionary tale, but and unnecesary one from my point of view bc they already knew.
In other news, I came across one of the very first Mile Higher.....man, you guys have grown so much. Even your voices sound different. Y'all are awesome.
I’ve been having insomnia, back pain and anxiety for a few years now. Heavy thc user and trying to ween myself off. Melatonin hasn’t helped my sleep so I just ordered some of your Blueberry cbd oil last night to try out. I’m so excited thank you guys. Love the look of the packaging too
So good to hear how much Kendall and Josh love DMNS! Getting my master’s in museum studies right now in Texas, it would be a dream to work there after graduating. Always support museums and lifelong learning in your area :)
Watched this live yesterday and this morning I had an article in my feed from Insider about a family who brought their 4 children all under the ages of 12 on a hike to the Mt. Everest Base camp! The youngest is only 2! That means taking them across the Hillary suspension bridge! Very coincidentally and sadly 3 Sherpas also lost their lives yesterday in an avalanche on Everest.
Totally agree with Kendall! The thought of climbing a mountain does not appeal to me in the slightest 🤢 Thanks for another great and informative episode ❤
Amazing video and such a fascinating story. One additional crazy detail (apologies if you included this and I missed it)-- Jon Krakauer's initial story was that he saw Andy Harris stumble into camp on the descent after speaking with him. Once everyone realized Harris was missing, Krakauer found the crampon tracks leading off a cliff and concluded that he must have fallen to his death instead of making it to camp. However, between the time that the original Outside article was published and Into Thin Air was published, Krakauer re-interviewed a bunch of people and figured out that when he thought he was talking to Andy Harris, he was actually speaking with Martin Adams from the Mountain Madness team, so it was Adams who he saw stumble into camp. (The crampon tracks were determined to be from someone else climbing up, can't remember who but it's all in Into Thin Air.) Meanwhile, Martin Adams had believed he was talking to a stranger-- the whole story just goes to show how crazy the effects of altitude and hypoxia are on the brain. Anyway, because Rob Hall had mentioned that Andy Harris had been with them, it's believed that Harris died somewhere higher up on the mountain but AFAIK his body has not been found.
Thank you for the info and I agree that such conditions do horrible things to your brain, but also can cause comforting hallucinations called Third Man Syndrome, I find the topic to be very fascinating and also maybe a little comforting hoping the people who don't make it feel some warmth of companionship and protection. If you're interested, Baud Bits or Baud 2 Bits has a great video on it.
I only summit in the winter, which makes it. I don’t even know how much more difficult but the solitude, peace, and beauty in the winter along with the challenge is just incredible.
You guys should see the documentary about the Sherpas called 14 Peaks it really is insightful about the amount of leg work they do to allow Westerners to climb the mountains. Also makes you wonder if there have been prior climbers who did make it to the top that just wasn't documented because they were Sherpas and I am pretty positive they were making it up there years prior just weren't recorded by Western historians.
i do think a lot of these climbers use it as an ego boost and are being completely reckless by attempting this knowing they have zero legit experience or just beginner skills. i agree with kendall i totally understand why people would see this as appealing and a goal, but me personally all that money and time and pain and exhaustion just to climb something. i don’t see why we need to climb everything, can we just let some parts of nature be? or at least not have the amount of traffic there is now.
This episode was soo damn good!! Reminds me of the Dyatlov pass incident which isn’t the same at all but what happens on these kinds of excursions is so interesting to me and the strength these people have is incredible
It was fun to do… but unfortunately, it was making our viewer retention rate just absolutely bomb and many people who go back and listen to past episodes we’re complaining about listening to old news. As much as we enjoyed it, it was hurting the performance of our show, and we had to make the right business decision and stop 💔
@@MileHigherI miss it too, maybe quarterly you guys could do segments that have happened in a span of 1-4 months but I can already imagine how loaded your schedules are.
When I was a kid, I wanted to see Everest base camp. It was on a bucket list I made in elementary school even. These days I couldn't physically attempt it but I wouldn't want to. I'd rather do something less extreme but I marvel at these people who do these climbs and my heart goes out to everyone who lost their lives on Mt Everest as well as their families.
I used to think about climbing mount everest just to say I did it, but after this video it made me realize how sacred the climb should be and not to "brag it and bag it"
Nothing wrong with a date to a museum lol. We went to our local art museum and they had a huge Anishinaabe exhibit and my fiancé was excited because ancestors of his tribe were represented. It was cool.
I have a degree in physiology and we learn about the incredible adaptations sherpas have to live at high altitudes! Its so fascinating seeing what the human body is capable of
My sis in law, her brother is climbing My Everest, as we speak, oh the mountains and the pics he is taking!!!! He is not using guides, it’s just surreal to me, he could literally be not alive soon?
Climbers don’t go straight from base camp to camp 2, 3 and 4. They go up and down to base camp many times to acclimate. Each time they go higher. They have to go down to base camp because it’s dangerous to stay in the thin air for too long time.
Hey Josh, I love listening to your podcasts and UA-cam channels but please please whatever you do don't quit your day job to do commercials for Dipsea..😂
You can indeed drive to the summit on pikes peak. When we first moved to CO we did just that, only making one pit stop on the way. (A tragic mistake) we got to the top, I was already dizzy, parked, I got out and immediately started vomiting. I made it to the restroom, and then passed out while walking out back to my husband. Luckily there was a woman there who happened to be an RN, she saw me go down & immediately came over to help me. There was an EMT on site but he did not know what the hell he was doing. Anyway they got me some oxygen and my angel nurse monitored me with the EMTs equipment. Once my husband got me back to the car I continued throwing up as we drove down the mountain. Altitude sickness was the worst thing I’ve ever experienced including an emergency C section and shattering 6 ribs in an atv accident.
Michael Groom shares his experience in motivational speeches. I‘ve been able to listen to him tell his story one day when my work had him as a speaker, very inspiring. You could tell he just loved doing it, despite everything!
I’m with Kendal. I do not understand why people would want to risk their lives to essentially do something only to be able to say you did it and to do it when you have small children and a family to come back to?? I think it is just completely selfish. The amount of people that die is just not worth it. And the sherpas risking their lives for a miserable pay! Ugh Everest should be shut down already
I for sure know about the dangers that come with climbing Everest. My brother and his then wife (ex wife) were on an expedition on Everest many years ago. The weather for sure shifts so quickly and the risk of altitude sickness is brutal. My brother was able to summit Everest but his ex was experiencing symptoms of altitude sickness and had to head back down to camp. He now helps guides expeditions on Everest of clients inquire. My heart goes out to all the lives lost and all the families who have lost their loved ones.
My husband travels a lot for work (military), he has been to Colorado a few times. He did Pike’s Peak and boy oh boy, he said it was pretty rough but it was beautiful. He sent me pictures and it was gorgeous!
I'm from Sweden and I had never heard of this 1996 disaster. The 2008 K2 disaster, when 11 mountaineers from international expeditions died on K2 is more "famous" here in Skandinavia.
I can't even imagine having to make the decision to leave the people you've been practically living with for weeks at that time. The amount of guilt that some of these survivors must carry, even while knowing if they tried to help the others they wouldn't have survived. The strength of these climbers isn't just physical-- it is mental. The ability to endure through literal hell-- it takes a lot.
I don’t even wanna climb up stairs
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Same. I hate stairs. 😂
I agree with you there 👍
Yep 😂
The actual truth.
So devastating. I'm glad that Rob had the chance to talk to his wife and name their child before he passed away.
i can’t even imagine what his wife had to go through!! first hearing her husbands last words, then having to finish a pregnancy without him, giving birth, and raising Sarah while he’s gone . i hope she has healed 🤍🤍
I think its incredibly selfish of him to go to a dangerous thrillseeking adventure when he has a family at home who depended on him. That poor wife and child😢
Same 😭😭
@@Evelyn-md5kc she's a climber herself and very understanding.
I have little sympathy for him. What kind of father to be decides to selfishly do life threatening things which would leave their wife and baby alone without a dad.
This episode immediately made me think of my uncle James Kagambi who just this past January was the first Kenyan who summited Mt. Everest, and he’s 62 YEARS OLD! I have such respect and really commend everyone whose tried to do this
This is amazing !
It’s fucking stupid and y’all are polluting the beautiful mountain gtf away from Mount Everest
62!?! Major props to him 👏🏼
Gg
And here i am in my late 20s with joint pain
My cousin is one of the few women to summit Everest. She actually met her husband on her first summit- said she knew it was true love when he offered to empty her urine canister!
Hahaha that’s amazing 💛
That's true love right there lol
So one of the few women who polluted the nature of Mount Everest yey 🎉 so cool 🤦♀️
OMG I LOVE IT - that’s the kind of love I want right there! 🤣👌 AMAZING 💚
Wow, that is love.
these sherpas were so incredibly brave. i can’t imagine risking your life because someone is taking a risk you’re telling them not to. it is so sad that they are underpaid and disrespected.
Yes! That's what makes me angry. These people did this to themselves, and in addition they endanger the lives of the Sherpas and get the rescue team killed. All this for a "yay" moment? 😢
@@DutchIsraeli it’s infuriating
They should be paid so much more!
I so agree! These poor people! These companies are making loads of money and should be treating their employees better!
My uncle was a base camp guide, but he never peaked the mountain. Something about "he's not stupid enough to do that". I really gotta sit him down and hear his crazy stories
Wow I bet he's got some wild stories.
why hasnt he climbed it yet; the risk to reward for him should have been insane, yes it dangerous but when you see non experienced people do it with ease. Must be some good stories tho.
I agree that climbing Mt Everest doesn’t hold the same prestige as it once did. My view of expeditions have been soured after hearing so many stories of people who leave others behind on the mountain simply because they “paid to summit so they are going to summit” or people taking unnecessary risks…. It seems to be so wrapped up in money that so many decisions are made that go against better judgement….. plus waiting in line with 200 of my ‘friends’ to climb a mountain trying to breathe through a straw sounds less than amazing. Thanks for covering this story though. Such a tragedy
Plus only 1 in 4 survives the decent? No thanks. Those are not good odds
agreed, I can’t get over how easily they leave people behind during these expeditions…
Do people climb for prestige? Or for the personal challenge? The latter one doesn’t change regardless of the number of people become the first of best whatever.
I went down the Mt. Everest rabbit hole a few years ago when I learned about how the bodies often stay there for long periods of time. I didn't realize how dangerous it was until hearing so many stories.
There’s a lot of concern right now because of the melting snow and ice on the mountain because it’s making these climbers harder and harder to move around. They’re also trying to plan major cleanup efforts, but it’s difficult when they keep stumbling across bodies.
Even mountains of "just" 2,000 meters have sudden weather changes, thinner air, and dangerous spots.
@@TheNinnyfee Very true
So dangerous!!
I am with Kendall, I can never understand the appeal of climbing those dangerous mountains. Aside from it being so hard, your chances of getting up and down safely with all of your fingers, toas and life are slim. Kudos to those who do it and love it. I could never do it.
I feel bad for the Sherpa. They deserve far more recognition for their hard work. It’s also awful to hear about the pollution and garbage allover the mountain. 😢
@TB-xd6nl thanks for sharing the doc, I'll check it out
"1 in 4 who summit don't make it down alive" those odds are a hard no!
That’s crazy… really?
Right?!
Ive heard this story many times. And the part about Rob's phone call always brings me to tears. I literally cannot imagine speaking to the person I love knowing that would be the last time. Thanks for covering this. I enjoy these types of topics the most 💚💙💜✌️
Thanks for watching!
''He didn't want to leave her, but he didn't have much of a choice. Neil felt her hand slip away and he walked forward without looking back.'' - I cannot fathom how difficult and traumatizing that must have been. How does a person cope with that, I feel so awful for that guy. :(
Me too, the amount of guilt that he must've carried even though carrying her would've obviously meant both of them dying-- I can't even imagine.
My dad went down the Everest rabbit hole about 4 years ago. He visited base camp, and even on that (10 day) hike alone some of his peers passed in their sleep due to issues with altitude adjustments.
Holy cow...
I've watched a handful of documentaries about mountain climbing and Mt. Everest. The Sherpa people that work on these mountains go out and set up everything for people to cross, they do double the work but generally get screwed over or are never recognized. And with climate change its made mountain climbing so much more dangerous with huge melts and unstable areas on the mountain.
This just further adds to the selfishness of people who choose to climb Everest. It’s honestly bad from every single perspective, aside from a feeling of personal triumph if you’re successful I guess?
They deserve so much more recognition.
I usually listen to true crime videos to fall asleep but I can't do that with yours....they're too interesting and educational!! Love you guys.
I know a little bit about climbing community and I kind of understand the need of thrill and adrenaline they experience, but there's one thing I don't get at all.
How people that have small, dependent children can risk their life on purpose, because they need fun, rush of adrenaline or whatever you want to call it. It's totally beyond my understanding.
For me, if you have a child, you are 100% responsible for them. It is your duty to give them safety and protection untill they can be on their own. How does it correlate with throwing yourself into life-threathning situation simply for fun? Sorry, I don't have respect for those people.
"Don't worry too much." Hell yea, she is a pregnant woman that is loosing her husband and now will struggle for years with giving birth and caring for child all by herself, and her baby will grow without a father, but sure SHE SHOULDN'T BE WORRYING TOO MUCH.
And I know some will say "But they HAVE TO. This is their nature, their call, to climb and reach for the sky.". That's fine for me, but if someone needs this so badly, then they shouldn't have children. You can't have a cookie and eat a cookie.
I heard that people call them "heroes". Sorry, but for me heroes are those widows/ widowers and their children, that will struggle with grief, finances, development issues and other stuff for YEARS, because their father/ mother/ husband/ wife wanted to have some thrill and prioritize it over wellbeing of their family (and especially children that heavily depends on them).
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100000% agree
You’re so right about this. These people aren’t going off to war, to protect their country, they’re partaking in a dangerous hobby and it’s irresponsible to not think of how the negative consequences will affect their love ones/ dependents. If you want to make this your life’s work, then don’t get married, don’t have children…simple as that. Don’t burden people with the aftermath of your death just because you thought you could challenge nature and lost.
I'm in total agreement with you. I think it's incredibly selfish.
100% ❤
When the older guy talked about realizing he didn't want to die alone... 😥
Rob Hall was a person friend of my science teacher back in the days. She told us this story when we had to review John Krakauer and Anatoli Boukreevs books Into Thin Air and The Climb. She could not tell the story without tears in her eyes. She lived and worked as a science teacher in Nepal during this incident.
Another beautiful piece of Mother Nature being ruined by humans… so sad
@@planetaryray7119 I completely agree. It’s all greed
Hi Kendall and Josh! I look forward to your Mile Higher Podcasts, as well as Kendall's UA-cam channel and Josh's "Lights Out" channel. You both always report on every single case with compassion, accuracy, and respect for the victims and their families. Thank you for always being so incredible with everything you bring to your channels. Keep up the amazing work! You both are true professionals!❤
Thank you so much! 💚💚💚
I found this channel through Kendall’s main true crime, I also recently discovered @TheSess with Kendall & Jenelle!
Yes! I literally watch every vid on all 4 of their channels. Favourite YT and podcasters by far ❤
I’m dying laughing right now at Josh’s advertising for Dipsea!!! Hilarious!!!!!
Oh my yes I could listen to it all night...no disrespect to you @KendallRae
Same!! I know this episode’s content is super serious, but the Dipsea commercial…😂😂😂
I kept scrolling to find this comment. It was just too funny and well promoted. haha
Our neighbor was a Sherpa and his brother and father still are. The stories he has shared the most unimaginable experiences!!
Many people forget about the sherpas - they‘re constantly being put in dangerous situations because some people ignore their own limits. My highest respect goes out to the sherpas!
I wouldn‘t climb Mt. Everest even if someone payed me to do so.. it sounds horrific.
The sherpas are so incredibly skilled and are crucial to people climbing everest. It is so unfortunate how many of them die trying to save people who didn't know their own limits. They seem to be incredibly selfless people, so it breaks my heart not many people mention them!
Ridiculous, you packed it in. They should be required to pack it out. Or they shouldn't be allowed to climb it.
Preach.
Love that you guys are covering this, what an incredible story. Don't know why but these climbing/mountaineering stories are so fascinating to me, even though I'm totally on Kendall's side, no f'ing way would I do it
Can't imagine what the deceased's families feel. I'm sure their family and loved ones were so worried for them going up just to hear the most tragic news that they couldn't make it down. A real nightmare come true. I know if I ever wanted to climb Mt Everest (I don't), I would make my mom ill of stress!
People LIVE for mountain climbing. They are fully aware of the dangers. As for the price - a lot of these climbers are sponsored athletes and that’ll help pay for it, or save their whole lives for the 7 summits. A goal of mine is to go to base camp but I’m not fit enough to get there yet.
I'd love a part 2 on the 2015 avalanche as well, great content and reporting
We’ve got it on our list!
Into Thin Air is one of my favorite books of all time so I can’t wait to listen to this!
The sherpas are all so underpaid! The work they have to do and risking their lives. Insane.
Universal Studios made the movie ‘Everest’, in 2015, with Jake Gyllenhaal and Jason Clarke that is entirely based on this story and the minute by minute details of this tragic event. I keep hearing you guys reference the IMAX film but I honestly believe the one made in 2015 is much better made. It’s incredible and very moving, especially the scenes with Jason Clarke, who played Rob.
Okay I thought the story sounded familiar! I loved that movie
Thank you, I thought I had watched something about this before. Very sad!
The IMAX team was actually on the mountain during the 96 event though ..
‘Everest’ is based on the true story but some minor events have been changed. Some of the plot never happened but the basic plot is is true, and the main characters are based on the real people.
Think it should be more expensive, with less people at anyone time.
All rubbish needs to be taken down.
Rich people suck at times.
Would be nice if all those people could come together and raise funds for a clean up situation I know they can't get everything from all the camps and bodies but it's becoming trashed up there at this point
I’ve hiked down pikes peak. 5 hours and snow on top, sun at the bottom. Got high halfway down in a creek. Good times!!!
It’s mind boggling to me that 1/4 of climbers who make it to the summit don’t make it down. So what this means is 25% of people who accomplish the climb die! That’s insane, most people wouldn’t do anything with a 25% mortality rate, even if they were paid😮😮😮, let alone pay to do it!!!
I’m curious where that statistic cane from because that was also mind-boggling to me and when I looked it up it said that the statistic was 4% of those who reach the summit die
@@samanthakulinski7547 You're joking, right? Josh quoted it at 23:27 .
Ya we were surprised by that statistic too.
Ego.
The fact that so many people are allowed to go up at once and there are lines of people waiting to climb that mountain is beyond irresponsible SMH
*At 37m. 50sec. ALL of the CLimbers but One, were NearLy KiLLed!!!! (SIC) I Stopped Listening Right there!!!*
*BLocking MiLe Higher!!!! To Get My Info. ELsewhere!!!!*
*every five minutes*
Kendall: “I could never”
“I don’t get the appeal”
Lmfaooo
I love mhp so much I’ve watch all 240+ episodes 5x+ over each since episode 1 I’ve always just rewatched Over and over until the next episode forever will be my comfort show and big respect for the dedication
I think a small minority actually climb this to fill some sort of void of feeling alive or small.
The vast majority of the people who do this actually do it to feel better than others. It’s not a challenge to push yourself it’s an ego thing lol
I feel that’s what Kendall is getting at but won’t say it.
The appeal is being a big shot.
People need to admit that lol
It’s literally ego food.
agreed
Accurate
The traffic of people waiting to summit Everest is a perfect image of what happens at the intersection of hypermasculinity and capitalism lol
Some people just love nature and exploring this world is what they live for and what gives them life and they are willing to die for it.
This 👏👏👏👏👏 this is just to feed their EGO at expense of their grieving families if they don’t make it
Everest might be the tallest mountain in the world, but Denali is the High One.
Mountain are measured from sea level to the summit. Everest is 29,032, Denali is 20,320. But let’s get real here. From base camp to the summit, Everest has a vertical rise of 11,436 feet. From base camp to summit, Denali has a vertical rise 18,000 feet. Which means your climbing 6,546 more feet on Denali.
On Everest you have Sherpas helping climbers. Sherpas carries loads of equipment/supplies to all the camps up the mountain, they set up the higher camps, they lay out the route, set rope, ladder through the Khumbu Icefalls.
But on Denali, there are no Sherpas, you have to carry your equipment and supplies up the mountain. Starting at base camp on Denali, you carry about 80lbs in your backpack, plus you are pulling a sled full on gear behind you as you climb to camp one. Once at camp one you unload your gear and head back down to base camp for more gear. By the time you reach the summit of Denali, you basically have climbed the mountain 5 times, because of all the climbing up and down the mountain getting your gear up the mountain. Oh and let’s not forget having to make a snow packed wall around your tent to block the high winds.
I’ve summited both Everest and Denali, and physically Denali was so much harder because you are your own Sherpa. While Everest was mentally tougher, colder and the crowds at the Hillary Step put you at risk of dying while you wait for people who have no business being on the mountain navigate the ladders, ropes. Now I just stay close to home, and climb 14ers in the San Juan Mountains in Colorado.
Awesome job, Team MH!
What an interesting, fascinating, horrific, edge-of-my-seat episode this was.
I'm right there with you: the Milky Way sounds awesome, but this trek is way, way, WAY down in the frozen bottom of my bucket. I can't imagine trying to navigate unfamiliar territory in the dark, freezing cold.
What courage, determination and focus these climbers and sherpas have. And what an incredible accomplishment to get even anywhere close to the summit. Respect.
So so glad you enjoyed it! Thank you 🙏
So excited about this! My. Everest and it’s “dark side” has always been so interesting to me!!!
Sherpas deserve so much more respect and acknowledgment... and yet it's these rich foreigners who get all the praise for doing this stuff...
We get hurricane force winds in colorado. I know personally how damaging they can be. On 11/10/2011 while driving home with my mom a friend, our vehicle got hit with a microburst measured at 110mph. All the windows in the car busted out. Except for the windshield. Even the rearview mirror got knocked off. We have rocks, gravel and glass inbedded in our heads. It was horrible and terrifying. I hate the wind to this day.
I remember in high school we had a couple who climbed mount everest come to our school to give a speech on their experience and it stuck with me for a while because before that I really had no idea how dangerous it was.
Wow, your videos have never made me cry and I was driving listening to this, and I ended up with tears in my eyes listening to one who said sleep well to his wife xx
I'm just so thrilled! You guys are my favorite youtube channel and this is my fav topic!!!!!!
Cant wait!!!
Hey guys! Glad to see yall today
As an Alpine climber myself, this story always hit hard. There was so many bad decisions from a lot of people that contributed to this along with the storm that comes once every 50 years. Tragic
I saw Everest on IMAX many years ago at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago and it is cool that it is getting some screen time again. It is a very powerful documentary. Rest in peace to all of the courageous climbers and sherpas that have lost their lives on Mt. Everest. 💗 My thoughts and prayers are with their surviving family members and loved ones.
memory unlocked. thank you
I‘m so excited for this episode! I’ve been a fan of author Jon Krakauer forever, his book on this disaster was so good. Such bad luck for him to be part of this exact mission.
He has also written the book about Chris Mccandless and others about issues pertaining to the military, the Mormon church and college sports SA.
This was an amazing episode. Thank you for highlighting all the different sides of climbing Mt. Everest including the spiritual background and environmental impact. 💚
I lived in Colorado for 10 years & I never had the desire to climb any of the 14ners! I’m with Kendall! I skied, hiked, etc. and that was enough! 😱😲
When I heard Kendall comment about this episode in the Sesh I thought “didn’t you already talked about this in MH?”, i guess I had already seen this episode in another dimension, I’ve got some Mandela effect going with this one 😅
Morbid fact Some of the bodies that are in the death zone that are unrecoverable are used as marking points. Literally you have to pass next to them to reach the summit.
Yes it’s crazy! We mentioned this
Yes it’s crazy! We mentioned this
Yes, I notice you mentioning it after I write this. Is totally amazing how well preserve most of this bodies are. The price for the ultimate thrill.
Imagine knowing your loved one is now just a marker for other travelers. Very sad to me … I’d hate to know my dad or husband now just sat there being referred to as “green boots” or a mile marker essentially
I feel bad for all the people who died in this summit, and I feel conflicted bc I simply cannot not blame Rob for a lot of it, and it's harsh bc he died too, but he was the guide, he is supposed to be the professional and experienced one. Those people's well beings are in YOUR hands and if you soften and blend rules for some in such a life-death situation, then only tragic ends will take place. YOU GUIDE, YOU TELL THEM NO. This is a cautionary tale, but and unnecesary one from my point of view bc they already knew.
I got goosebumps when you told what Rob’s last words to his wife were.
In other news, I came across one of the very first Mile Higher.....man, you guys have grown so much. Even your voices sound different.
Y'all are awesome.
Even though I already know so much about this case I’m still watching cause I love hearing you guys banter 😊
I love that you’re including the pets in your business. From one animal person to another, thank you!!!
I’ve been having insomnia, back pain and anxiety for a few years now. Heavy thc user and trying to ween myself off. Melatonin hasn’t helped my sleep so I just ordered some of your Blueberry cbd oil last night to try out. I’m so excited thank you guys. Love the look of the packaging too
So good to hear how much Kendall and Josh love DMNS! Getting my master’s in museum studies right now in Texas, it would be a dream to work there after graduating. Always support museums and lifelong learning in your area :)
Lol Josh you get me every time when you do that sponsorship clip 😅
What makes it even funnier is Kendall's background commentary which is so dry, it could self-peel paint off walls. xD
Extremely long time listener, first time commenting. You guys crush these types of videos!! Keep ‘em coming! 🤟🏼🤟🏼
Watched this live yesterday and this morning I had an article in my feed from Insider about a family who brought their 4 children all under the ages of 12 on a hike to the Mt. Everest Base camp! The youngest is only 2! That means taking them across the Hillary suspension bridge! Very coincidentally and sadly 3 Sherpas also lost their lives yesterday in an avalanche on Everest.
Well, some people do anything for the “gram” 😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
Totally agree with Kendall! The thought of climbing a mountain does not appeal to me in the slightest 🤢 Thanks for another great and informative episode ❤
I'm a passionate hiker. Climbing Everest is nearly unconscionable on an ethical level. Makes me angry.
Amazing video and such a fascinating story. One additional crazy detail (apologies if you included this and I missed it)-- Jon Krakauer's initial story was that he saw Andy Harris stumble into camp on the descent after speaking with him. Once everyone realized Harris was missing, Krakauer found the crampon tracks leading off a cliff and concluded that he must have fallen to his death instead of making it to camp. However, between the time that the original Outside article was published and Into Thin Air was published, Krakauer re-interviewed a bunch of people and figured out that when he thought he was talking to Andy Harris, he was actually speaking with Martin Adams from the Mountain Madness team, so it was Adams who he saw stumble into camp. (The crampon tracks were determined to be from someone else climbing up, can't remember who but it's all in Into Thin Air.) Meanwhile, Martin Adams had believed he was talking to a stranger-- the whole story just goes to show how crazy the effects of altitude and hypoxia are on the brain. Anyway, because Rob Hall had mentioned that Andy Harris had been with them, it's believed that Harris died somewhere higher up on the mountain but AFAIK his body has not been found.
Thank you for the info and I agree that such conditions do horrible things to your brain, but also can cause comforting hallucinations called Third Man Syndrome, I find the topic to be very fascinating and also maybe a little comforting hoping the people who don't make it feel some warmth of companionship and protection. If you're interested, Baud Bits or Baud 2 Bits has a great video on it.
I only summit in the winter, which makes it. I don’t even know how much more difficult but the solitude, peace, and beauty in the winter along with the challenge is just incredible.
You guys should see the documentary about the Sherpas called 14 Peaks it really is insightful about the amount of leg work they do to allow Westerners to climb the mountains. Also makes you wonder if there have been prior climbers who did make it to the top that just wasn't documented because they were Sherpas and I am pretty positive they were making it up there years prior just weren't recorded by Western historians.
i do think a lot of these climbers use it as an ego boost and are being completely reckless by attempting this knowing they have zero legit experience or just beginner skills. i agree with kendall i totally understand why people would see this as appealing and a goal, but me personally all that money and time and pain and exhaustion just to climb something. i don’t see why we need to climb everything, can we just let some parts of nature be? or at least not have the amount of traffic there is now.
This episode was soo damn good!! Reminds me of the Dyatlov pass incident which isn’t the same at all but what happens on these kinds of excursions is so interesting to me and the strength these people have is incredible
Am I the one only one who misses the worldly news they used to do in the beginning of their videos?? 😩
same
It was fun to do… but unfortunately, it was making our viewer retention rate just absolutely bomb and many people who go back and listen to past episodes we’re complaining about listening to old news. As much as we enjoyed it, it was hurting the performance of our show, and we had to make the right business decision and stop 💔
@Mile Higher I enjoyed it too but I understand why yall had to stop. Love your podcasts! You guys are my favorite ❤️
@@MileHigherI miss it too, maybe quarterly you guys could do segments that have happened in a span of 1-4 months but I can already imagine how loaded your schedules are.
When I was a kid, I wanted to see Everest base camp. It was on a bucket list I made in elementary school even. These days I couldn't physically attempt it but I wouldn't want to. I'd rather do something less extreme but I marvel at these people who do these climbs and my heart goes out to everyone who lost their lives on Mt Everest as well as their families.
From the summit, you can see the curvature of the Earth. That is wild.
*Earth is FLat*
Not quite.
I used to think about climbing mount everest just to say I did it, but after this video it made me realize how sacred the climb should be and not to "brag it and bag it"
I’m with you guys on this one. I have absolutely no desire to mountain climb. RIP to all those that died.
I absolutely live for Josh doing the Dipsea ads😂Cracks me up every time
Nothing wrong with a date to a museum lol. We went to our local art museum and they had a huge Anishinaabe exhibit and my fiancé was excited because ancestors of his tribe were represented. It was cool.
I have a degree in physiology and we learn about the incredible adaptations sherpas have to live at high altitudes! Its so fascinating seeing what the human body is capable of
I’m late but I’m SO glad you guys did this! I’m a climber and one of my first books that started the spark was Into Thin Air.
My sis in law, her brother is climbing My Everest, as we speak, oh the mountains and the pics he is taking!!!! He is not using guides, it’s just surreal to me, he could literally be not alive soon?
Dang that's scary. Update once he is back down please!
@@amber13000 will do!
Any update?? Hoping he is okay!
@@certified_mandy yes, he is! I got so see some crazy videos!
Is he okay?
Climbers don’t go straight from base camp to camp 2, 3 and 4. They go up and down to base camp many times to acclimate. Each time they go higher. They have to go down to base camp because it’s dangerous to stay in the thin air for too long time.
Could we get a ponder sesh soon? 😁
Hey Josh, I love listening to your podcasts and UA-cam channels but please please whatever you do don't quit your day job to do commercials for Dipsea..😂
I really enjoyed the memorial at the end. Great thinking there. I recommend including them every time whether its just one or multiple victims!
😂 dying 😂😂😂 Josh's Dipsea commercial voice!
You can indeed drive to the summit on pikes peak. When we first moved to CO we did just that, only making one pit stop on the way. (A tragic mistake) we got to the top, I was already dizzy, parked, I got out and immediately started vomiting. I made it to the restroom, and then passed out while walking out back to my husband. Luckily there was a woman there who happened to be an RN, she saw me go down & immediately came over to help me. There was an EMT on site but he did not know what the hell he was doing. Anyway they got me some oxygen and my angel nurse monitored me with the EMTs equipment. Once my husband got me back to the car I continued throwing up as we drove down the mountain. Altitude sickness was the worst thing I’ve ever experienced including an emergency C section and shattering 6 ribs in an atv accident.
Omg lol! What an ordeal for a ‘Sunday Drive’… 😂 I found this story just as fascinating as the Everest story! 😂❤
Climbing everest is a vanity project and I hate that people risk their lives and others lives to do it.
Michael Groom shares his experience in motivational speeches. I‘ve been able to listen to him tell his story one day when my work had him as a speaker, very inspiring. You could tell he just loved doing it, despite everything!
I’m with Kendal. I do not understand why people would want to risk their lives to essentially do something only to be able to say you did it and to do it when you have small children and a family to come back to?? I think it is just completely selfish. The amount of people that die is just not worth it.
And the sherpas risking their lives for a miserable pay! Ugh
Everest should be shut down already
I for sure know about the dangers that come with climbing Everest. My brother and his then wife (ex wife) were on an expedition on Everest many years ago. The weather for sure shifts so quickly and the risk of altitude sickness is brutal. My brother was able to summit Everest but his ex was experiencing symptoms of altitude sickness and had to head back down to camp. He now helps guides expeditions on Everest of clients inquire. My heart goes out to all the lives lost and all the families who have lost their loved ones.
My husband travels a lot for work (military), he has been to Colorado a few times. He did Pike’s Peak and boy oh boy, he said it was pretty rough but it was beautiful. He sent me pictures and it was gorgeous!
Say you're not interested in climbing Everest one more time.....😂😂😂
Great coverage, sad how a series of unfortunate events Can be so devastating. Love to all who have suffered and lost.
I just talked about this movie with a friend, I saw it at an imax when I was 8 and it gave me mega anxiety 😮
I love y’all’s channels!
A friend of mine is going to base camp at the end of April and now I’m worried 🥲😅
I'm from Sweden and I had never heard of this 1996 disaster. The 2008 K2 disaster, when 11 mountaineers from international expeditions died on K2 is more "famous" here in Skandinavia.
I’m from the U.K., I have visited pike’s peak and you can drive nearly all the way up but some people still get that altitude sickness
Just got here so I'm at the beginning. Happy I made it in general though!
I can't even imagine having to make the decision to leave the people you've been practically living with for weeks at that time. The amount of guilt that some of these survivors must carry, even while knowing if they tried to help the others they wouldn't have survived.
The strength of these climbers isn't just physical-- it is mental. The ability to endure through literal hell-- it takes a lot.