I found something incredible in Scotland's Rainforest

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  • @LeaveCurious
    @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +16

    Become a Mossy Earth member and contribute to restoring Scotland's rainforest & many more nature restoration projects all over the world! mossy.earth/?referral=LEAVECURIOUS

    • @alperenbaser7952
      @alperenbaser7952 3 місяці тому

      you should come and visit rainforests coastal forest and cedar forests of Turkey. I want you to see and make video about one of the most important tree on Earth . Taurus cedar (Cedrus libani )

  • @deekayunited3445
    @deekayunited3445 3 місяці тому +19

    I noted brand new deer fencing for great stretches in Glenshee the other week along with significant rewilding along the glen. All good signs.

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +4

      It certainly works short term, but its not a long term fix. still welcome though

  • @arthuredeson3824
    @arthuredeson3824 3 місяці тому +21

    I like this kind of video. No big message or negativity, just wandering in the woods getting excited by all the cool things. I'd love to see more like this

  • @SoNoFTheMoSt
    @SoNoFTheMoSt 3 місяці тому +44

    That huge oak you were standing at was insane!

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +6

      oh yeah shes awesome!!

    • @dustyking8851
      @dustyking8851 3 місяці тому

      I'm so lucky growing up in New Orleans, we have massive oaks everywhere. These trees are hundreds of years old and are left alone, even if they tear up sidewalks. We fix the sidewalk not cutting down a 300 year old oak. We're really lucky.

  • @31Blaize
    @31Blaize 3 місяці тому +2

    Temperate rainforest in the UK is so underacknowledged. I knew about the temperate rainforest in NZ long before I knew we had rainforest over here too. It should be far more celebrated!

  • @SMoorcroft
    @SMoorcroft 3 місяці тому +5

    A lovely video as always, thank you. In Kintyre we (Kintyre Rainforest Alliance) are working on a project to map, restore regenerate and our pockets of temperate rainforest. We have vulnerable pockets of both yellow and Norwegian specklebelly right in the middle of a massive spruce plantation. We need FLS and other landowners to really take the problem seriously and commit to helping us in Kintyre or we risk losing this forever. A short stroll through our woodlands, and you will see black eyed Susan, filmy ferns, lungworts, rare liverworts, and of course those magnificent and amazing gnarled trees bent and twisted by generations of wind and rain. It is utterly magical. If you get the chance come and take a look at Kintyre, you’ll struggle to find the rare species on any national map, because we are amongst the first to record their presence here. We are looking for supporters and volunteers to help with this huge task.

  • @noblefir9106
    @noblefir9106 3 місяці тому +5

    Hello from the temperate rainforests of Northwest Oregon!
    This forest you were trekking through is gorgeous. I see a lot of connections and simlilarities and plant relatives with our rainforests here.
    I love your dedication for, and appreciation of, the temperate rainforests, which are, as you said, globally rare.
    It was, and still is, in the rainforests of my home that I learned about the true beauty, natural complexity/diversity, and the interconnectedness and interdependence of life on earth.
    These magical places are so good for our total health (mental, physical, spiritual, emotional) and our over all wellbeing.

  • @hobo9675
    @hobo9675 3 місяці тому +7

    All that beautiful moss!

  • @insAneTunA
    @insAneTunA 3 місяці тому +18

    👍I only have a small garden, but the past years I have been covering the soil in my borders with the branches and twigs that I collected after pruning, and with mulch from tree leafs that I collected instead of throwing them away. I used smaller twigs but also some larger branches and even a small tree stump. Now it is starting to look like a forest floor, and it is much better for the soil and the micro organisms. Now I do not have to use fertilizers and I do not have to water the garden as much. The micro organisms are starting to break down the wood and to release the plant available nutrients.
    Even in small gardens it is very beneficial for your soil and the micro organisms to cover the soil with composted wood chips or branches and twigs from pruning. Fresh cuttings and fresh wood chips need some time to mature before the micro organisms start to release their nutrients. So pre composted wood is the best cover for your soil as longs as you keep the stems from plants and trees free from mulch cover.

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +5

      Love it! keep up the good work, always nice to get these processes going in our gardens.

  • @TheHoveHeretic
    @TheHoveHeretic 3 місяці тому +19

    First time I flew back to Gatwick from GC the weather here had been soggy for months. That very day, the temperature climbed suddenly and the steam coming off St.Leonard's and Ashdown Forests (with mercifully little else visible due to the weather) forcibly made me understand the term "temperate rain forest".
    Thanks for another great clip Rob, though I'd call seeing a Scottish wildcat in it's natural surroundings as a bit more than just "lucky!! 🙂

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +7

      Haha, yeah you're not wrong although people are seeing them now, theres been a video of one near Aviemore, think its one of the reintroduced ones, I could be wrong.

  • @jamestoday2239
    @jamestoday2239 Місяць тому

    Great seeing another generation getting excited about our native woodlands and the thrust for regenerating and restoring them!

  • @vidibites
    @vidibites 3 місяці тому +2

    Those curly old Caledonian pine trees are incredible, You always think of them as l straight, when in fact we just don’t have many ancient trees.

  • @garyschomberger2291
    @garyschomberger2291 3 місяці тому +10

    The biotic pump starts with the coastal driven rain forests!

  • @plant_trees_kg
    @plant_trees_kg 3 місяці тому +2

    So this is cool- I just learned that big-leaf maple trees have evolved to collect soil on their trunks by slitting off and growing horizontally in some sections. The trunks actually send out roots into that canopy soil to collect nutrients! Fern spores land in the soil and when the ferns decay, they add to the soil.

  • @BochumBL
    @BochumBL 3 місяці тому +11

    looking forward to my holiday in scotland this summer

    • @pinkdragon4830
      @pinkdragon4830 3 місяці тому

      @ConontheBinarian ???

    • @pinkdragon4830
      @pinkdragon4830 3 місяці тому

      @ConontheBinarian I understand that you’re joking but I genuinely want to know what you meant by the first reply

    • @DavidCruickshank
      @DavidCruickshank 3 місяці тому

      @@pinkdragon4830 Scotland is trying to pass new hate speech laws. Conon is pathetically over exaggerating the effects of said law.

    • @pinkdragon4830
      @pinkdragon4830 3 місяці тому

      @@DavidCruickshank Ok thanks

  • @jammiedodger7040
    @jammiedodger7040 3 місяці тому +5

    Great to see that you finally starting to realise that we do need forestry but I think you need to make a video about sustainable ways forestry could be done as the way we do forestry needs to change.

  • @verycool6022
    @verycool6022 3 місяці тому +2

    Great video! The scenery is incredible. Especially the ancient oak covered in lichen! Wish we had this in the NL too.

  • @louislamonte334
    @louislamonte334 3 місяці тому +6

    Great video as always! Thrilled to see beautiful Scotland's natural beauty being restored! I know there is still so much to do but the progress is beautiful and inspiring! I do hope you're very well today, my friend!

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +2

      Pleased you enjoyed the video and yeah I'm doing alright, always better when I'm out in nature :) cheers!

  • @Solstice261
    @Solstice261 3 місяці тому +5

    I am currently in northern spain looking at lichen, and it reminded me of this, I love Caledonian woods and hopefully it will continue to expand thanks to help from rewilding organizations

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +1

      awesome, it be cool to see what northern spain has to offer. cheers!

    • @Solstice261
      @Solstice261 3 місяці тому +2

      @@LeaveCurious mainly, a lot of invasive eucalyptus plantations but there are also some beautiful oak forests, it would be nice to see a similar project to grow this forests here

  • @alphallama2362
    @alphallama2362 3 місяці тому +2

    You should come back to one of these forests during the Summer, when there's actually leaves on the trees.

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +3

      Oh definitely, although the pines are always in leaf 🤓

  • @defeatSpace
    @defeatSpace 3 місяці тому +4

    I struggle to understand how so much diversity thrives on some (relatively) tiny archipelagos at the top of the world.

  • @marthawolfsen5809
    @marthawolfsen5809 2 місяці тому

    This is the Scotland that I dreamed of seeing before I first visited. Not the non-native tree farms. This is so very beautiful!

  • @mattbibbings
    @mattbibbings 3 місяці тому +4

    You should come to North Yorkshire and visit Guiscliffe Wood in Nidderdale. It's a marvellous pocket of rainforest, rich in life. I"d be happy to show you round. I work at an outdoor centre called Bewerley Park near to the wood.

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +3

      Nice, ill make a note of it! always email me if you think theres an interesting idea for a video.

  • @anthonyterlizzi2405
    @anthonyterlizzi2405 3 місяці тому +4

    Lichens are dope af. They're kinda like tree coral if you think about it

  • @DaveG-rs3xp
    @DaveG-rs3xp 3 місяці тому +3

    yes, magical and amazing ! 😀👍 great visuals and really liked the scenes with the polypody ferns on the mossy branches! 👍👍👍👍👍

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +1

      It’s just so fun to film!!

  • @timurozkurt5239
    @timurozkurt5239 3 місяці тому +4

    Another great video Rob. Love the detailed footage of some of those lichens

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому

      Nice one, yeah i could film them all day :)

  • @Debbie-henri
    @Debbie-henri 3 місяці тому +2

    Oh, I'll look around and see if I can find a Speckle-Belly where I live. There are so many hidden little pockets of undisturbed life in Scotland, generally around streams, which commonly have steep-sided slopes making them useless for cultivation but great for lichens.
    Deer are a serious problem up here, and getting worse by the year.
    We're in definite need of a predator reintroduction very soon if we are to prevent what few natural forests we have from shrinking to nothing.
    Rabbits are bad enough, but the deer make it impossible to replant trees unless you have very high fencing (I've seen stags jump anti-deer fencing near Braemar with ease, so it's not that effective).
    Deer have also learned to use their antlers to hook tree guards up and over young trees, or push against young tree saplings to push them over and get to the branches. So, if tree stakes are not that solid in our often shallow, rocky soils they are ineffective too.
    It's a pretty dire situation, and what landowners, foresters and garden owners need is a good, reliable, cheap way to deter deer.

  • @louizabell9905
    @louizabell9905 3 місяці тому

    Love your videos with all the tiny details. Thanks for taking us on another wonderful walk through the forest!

  • @PaulCoxC
    @PaulCoxC 3 місяці тому

    Great video Rob. The layers on the trees are amazing!

  • @glendamears3618
    @glendamears3618 3 місяці тому +1

    Yes very beautiful 😊 my mother's country ❤

  • @justinausten1085
    @justinausten1085 2 місяці тому +1

    Ya'll have so much in common with the Pacific Northwest region of the US. We gave you those spruce for worse perhaps. But the we still have cougar and bear and recently wolves again. We ourselves have lost so much through forestry and developemet in only 150 years. But our indeginous folks coexisted for generations. Hope to see your lands recover and expand in health just as we are relearning to interact and prosper again.

  • @user-tv3kk1eb3n
    @user-tv3kk1eb3n 3 місяці тому

    A really amazing piece of nature! 💚

  • @gravijax
    @gravijax 2 місяці тому

    Love the video and the channel. Some genuine excitement and wonder about the world is needed more than ever. Imagine how Scotland would look if people were truly aware of it's current and potential beauty.

  • @SoNoFTheMoSt
    @SoNoFTheMoSt 3 місяці тому +5

    These videos and particularly you presenting is on par with the BBC dude, really great work, if you ever find yourself in Norfolk, id love to bring to family to help with any scheme you have going on :)

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +1

      Cheers!! :)

    • @someblokecalleddave1
      @someblokecalleddave1 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah Rob's pretty good. If there's a BBC left in 60 years time he'll be fronting a program on par with Attenborough's!

  • @Ghost-Mama
    @Ghost-Mama 3 місяці тому

    Lovely scenery Rob! You always find such remote and fascinating places and wildlife. I always do “leave curious “!! 😂

  • @HedgeWitch-st3yy
    @HedgeWitch-st3yy 3 місяці тому

    Love the temperate rainforest videos. Love seeing lichens and moss all over the trees, very beautiful.

  • @mattgoodchild8215
    @mattgoodchild8215 3 місяці тому +3

    Top video
    Top bloke
    Top notch 👍🏼

  • @pinkdragon4830
    @pinkdragon4830 3 місяці тому +2

    Black-eyed Susan is such an awesome name xD

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +2

      its great isn't it... much prefer it to the scientific names

  • @elateride
    @elateride 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm being picky here but bryophytes contain only mosses. Lichens are usually classed within fungi but as you probably know they also contain algae and bacteria.

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +2

      no please do be picky, although enthusiastic, i make mistakes all the time!

  • @philiptaylor7902
    @philiptaylor7902 3 місяці тому +1

    Love the video Rob, that's an incredible woodland you were visting.

  • @rudygarcia3451
    @rudygarcia3451 3 місяці тому

    Ive seen some beautiful lichens here in Utah in the US, but holy moly, those are even crazier!

  • @jwornell2114
    @jwornell2114 3 місяці тому +4

    Great vid again, love the scenes !!

  • @marymcandrew7667
    @marymcandrew7667 Місяць тому

    Where I live in the Scottish Borders, when a land owner puts (really high) deer fencing up, it's to contain Red Deer as a commercial herd raised for meat. We've seen an entire huge hill and moors contained, with no trees for cover and it also means no human can walk there either. We don't like these fences with padlocked gates, it takes whole areas away that we would walk over.

  • @THE_ECONNORGIST
    @THE_ECONNORGIST 3 місяці тому +3

    Another great video Rob. I blame the “Trio of Destruction” for holding back true ecological potential - ie burning, deer and sheep. Just earlier today I watched sheep and a herd of deer munching their way through the landscape whilst burning was happening in the opposite valley. Horrific.

    • @pinkdragon4830
      @pinkdragon4830 3 місяці тому +2

      Or, to some all up - humanity :(

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +2

      should of filmed it at least! would of been really useful to have that for future videos... but i hear you, it can be demoralising.

    • @THE_ECONNORGIST
      @THE_ECONNORGIST 3 місяці тому +1

      @@LeaveCurious oh I did 😉

  • @anniehill9909
    @anniehill9909 2 місяці тому

    What a beautiful forest. It's so good to see the recent interest and mapping of these important rainforests and so cool to know that even Britain, so devoid of biodiversity, has so many special and unique organisms!😅

  • @spoodypenguin
    @spoodypenguin 3 місяці тому

    Im currently studying nature restoration, conservation and rewilding in its amazing to see Atlantic rainforests the amount of life that thrives there would be amazing to study. Great Video keep up the amazing work o/

    • @HedgeWitch-st3yy
      @HedgeWitch-st3yy 3 місяці тому

      Good luck with your studies, hope you're enjoying it and best wishes for your future contribution to nature recovery.

  • @Oli_Thompson
    @Oli_Thompson 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video man! Your enthusiasm is inspiring! 🙏

  • @anniehill9909
    @anniehill9909 2 місяці тому

    Thanks!

  • @ajadrew
    @ajadrew 3 місяці тому

    Excellent video!

  • @wonderman1918
    @wonderman1918 3 місяці тому +2

    Random but can you plant a Redwood forest in the parts of the UK suffering from costal erosion? I think it could look like Seattle

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +2

      hmm i'm not sure, i know that tree roots can certainly help with erosion, but i'd need to look into this more

    • @wonderman1918
      @wonderman1918 3 місяці тому

      @@LeaveCurious Thank you for answering, sorry, I was left curious!

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 3 місяці тому +1

    the Scots Pine is by far the most widespread pine species in the world they are native from the Mediterranean all the way to most of the temperate parts of Russia

  • @fishsticks428
    @fishsticks428 3 місяці тому +2

    Id love to see some projects over in northern Ireland

  • @artsoundsgreatASMR
    @artsoundsgreatASMR 3 місяці тому

    These treeferns are awesome

  • @cain948
    @cain948 3 місяці тому +4

    ❤❤

  • @bryanwalkerCT7729
    @bryanwalkerCT7729 3 місяці тому +4

    How do you get tree's protected in England?
    Pointers field Norwich has lovely oak tree
    Needs protection
    #Trees

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +3

      TPO i believe, tree preservation order, but not sure how much its worth if the right strings are pulled. Hope it gets to keep on livin

    • @philiptaylor7902
      @philiptaylor7902 3 місяці тому +2

      Talk to your local council, but don't expect much response. Two TPO trees outside my house were felled due to fungal infection. They are supposed to be replaced but no action has been taken. With the cuts to council budgets tree protection comes way down the list of their priorities.

    • @Solstice261
      @Solstice261 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@LeaveCuriousbearing in mind how many TPO trees have been felled, proper enforcement seems more important

  • @jyy9624
    @jyy9624 3 місяці тому +3

    No forest, no Scottish salmon

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +2

      you are spot on, the salmon really have been struggling due to lack of riparian habitat, amongst other stresses

  • @thijslord04
    @thijslord04 3 місяці тому

    FF: Lichens are called korstmossen (crusty mosses) in Dutch

  • @TheKill678
    @TheKill678 Місяць тому

    you should really check out the Hoh rainforest in washington state. its somewhat near california! its breathetaking

  • @Amber-zg5ex
    @Amber-zg5ex 3 місяці тому +1

    🥰

  • @kirkzevola5004
    @kirkzevola5004 3 місяці тому +107

    Forgive me if I sound weird for this but am I the only one who feels slightly panicky and starts feeling anxious and sadness over new things being built and developed on what could have been preserved for biodiversity and species. I hate seeing land cleared for our greed because while it may serve a good for us it can harm other species weather human or not and I feel empathetic and sad for animals and plants cause in a way your harming them. But am I a weirdo for that? I just hope it’s not me.

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +33

      I think thats a perfectly rationale & quite common feeling and felt by many those who enjoy seeing natural spaces.

    • @philiptaylor7902
      @philiptaylor7902 3 місяці тому +15

      No you are far from alone. There have been a lot of mature trees felled in the woods near me by the local landowner and it makes me feel sick in the stomach every time I see the stumps and fallen timber.

    • @THE_ECONNORGIST
      @THE_ECONNORGIST 3 місяці тому +13

      Not just you buddy, its similar to if not the same as “climate anxiety.” It’s very real indeed.

    • @mattgoodchild8215
      @mattgoodchild8215 3 місяці тому +11

      No it’s not just you I feel the exactly the same
      I’m currently being verbally attacked on the H S2 channel for my comment
      My area has been totally devastated by it
      People just don’t care mostly

    • @bill8985
      @bill8985 3 місяці тому +11

      If that's being weird... then I'd wish everyone were weird. I first had that same panic in 1976 when a huge field and adjacent woods (where my friends and I used to play) was plowed under for a tract of cookie-cutter homes. Each house was on a big lot and all the trees were felled and sold off for pulp or lumber and two little ugly spindly landscape trees were placed in the grassy, lifeless front yards of each house.

  • @etho2734
    @etho2734 3 місяці тому +1

    I just got back from a walk and saw a barely alive otter on the floor near a river with a fox in the same feald and the otter was still wet

  • @ewtube8004
    @ewtube8004 3 місяці тому +1

    Is there any way I can volunteer to help out with rewinding id be really interested in helping out in a project

    • @raclark2730
      @raclark2730 3 місяці тому +1

      Have a squiz around the net there should be a lest one group doing something in most places.

  • @glendamears3618
    @glendamears3618 3 місяці тому +1

    I love lycken

  • @hobi1kenobi112
    @hobi1kenobi112 3 місяці тому

    At least Scotland's rainforest is widely acknowledged. Most of England's isn't. And no doubt on most council radars re: clearance for 'affordable homes.'

  • @martinclaudiu2560
    @martinclaudiu2560 2 місяці тому

    How can i get there ?

  • @IfEnjoinder
    @IfEnjoinder 3 місяці тому +1

  • @EarnestBunbury
    @EarnestBunbury 3 місяці тому +1

    Arent rainforests defined by producing their own micro climate? (water evaporating from the trees forms clouds in the sky, which rains down on the very same trees) As Scotland is quite far north from the equator, its average temperatures are much lower, which limits the evaporation. The frequent rainfall Scotland encounters is much more caused by its maritime location, than it vegetation, isn't it? Is my school learned knowledge regarding rainforests wrong, or are you using the term just loosely?

    • @davidforman6191
      @davidforman6191 3 місяці тому +2

      Woodlands that are found in areas that are influenced by the sea, with high rainfall and humidity and damp climate are temperate rainforests, which this is.

    • @Solstice261
      @Solstice261 3 місяці тому +3

      Rainforests are defined by the humidity more than the microclimate, that's how you get temperate rainforest which include those in Asia, west coast of the united states and parts of Australia

  • @Shaden0040
    @Shaden0040 3 місяці тому +1

    that we've seen on this channel that Iceland wants to reforest their island and I don't blame them what they need to do is get species from northern Canada scandinavia Siberia and northern Scotland along with the soil samples with living microyzoid in them Or at least the spores of those micro rises. this will benefit the soil and the plants and then the animals that depend on them and one thing that Iceland needs to import is the bobcat or the links and the beaver the Beaver will help keep their trees in check will help flood the land in certain areas creating ponds and lakes and rivers and helping the native wildlife and they can regulate the numbers of the species by doing a sterilization program for 50% of the creatures that go out there Half the males half the fields can get sterilized you just have to do yearly trap or every couple of years do a trapping Of the majority of the Beavers and figure out the numbers and just then just do half Sterilize half they still can live this can still do the jobs They just want to have children that's all for that year there will be those that will have children and those will go on having children and children and children so you just got to keep it balanced and keep them in reserve in sheltered areas so that if something comes with like a disease or a bad year you have stock to reintroduce. all of this stuff can be done you guys just have to plan it out carefully and slowly.

  • @comradeweismann6947
    @comradeweismann6947 Місяць тому

    Comments for the algorithm

  • @Tom-tp1jv
    @Tom-tp1jv 3 місяці тому

    im a big supporter but the bears and wolves, last resort right?

    • @Solstice261
      @Solstice261 3 місяці тому

      If you've seen his other videos as well as scientific papers and such, you would know they are not a last resort but rather something that is needed but will have to wait until people like you inform themselves

    • @LeaveCurious
      @LeaveCurious  3 місяці тому +1

      utimately we'd always have a functioning ecosystem. but to put lynx wolves and bears back right now just wouldn't work. the reasons are many - but what really must happen soon is the lynx reintrouction. it wouldnt cause a huge trophic cascade, but it would warm the british around to the idea of living with predators again.

    • @carelgoodheir692
      @carelgoodheir692 3 місяці тому +1

      @@LeaveCurious I live in the Highlands and bears we couldn't cope with. But wolves are a possibility as long as they were contained in an area big enough to support a pack. That shouldn't be done by fencing, but rather by a "wolf warden" with a few large dogs. Several of the pack would be radio collered and he would appear wherever the pack approached the boundary. To the pack he and his dogs would be the neighbouring pack(s). It would cost less than paying stalkers to cull hinds and do a better job - wolves can't outrun healthy adult red deer (elks to Americans).

  • @sc3pt1c4L
    @sc3pt1c4L 3 місяці тому

    NO to the reintroduction of bears and wolves to the countryside.

    • @Craicfox161
      @Craicfox161 3 місяці тому +1

      The lynx is enough

    • @justinausten1085
      @justinausten1085 2 місяці тому

      Come to the North American West. We can reteach you to live with the big scary animals

  • @Tom-tp1jv
    @Tom-tp1jv 3 місяці тому +1

    too many deer u say? grabs gun and camping gear

    • @carelgoodheir692
      @carelgoodheir692 3 місяці тому

      These deer (elks to Americans) aren't on public land. Only the land owners are allowed to shoot on their ground. Many of these owners live from fees paid by hunters to be allowed to shoot. These hunters only want to shoot stags so from the owners point of view the more stags the better. That is achieved by not culling hinds. This has been the situation for most of the last 200 years. The problems caused have been well understood for a very long time but no real answer has been found yet.