Just weird how the DAY of, 2pacs crew was told to not being any of their weapons and hours later he’s shot in a drive by where no crew member can fire back…..
@@melvinhhcp3615because that’s how people think while getting shot at. ‘Hmmm yes, they have fired 14 bullets at my automobile, with my above average height and weight it is a miracle that I havent been killed!’
@@JohnBaillie18If they were shooting at him, why didn't he get shot?! Tell me. How did they miss a sitting target that big at a fkn red light, after Pac was already slumped.
@@melvinhhcp3615 2pac jumped into the back seat of the car and that is why he was hit with more bullets than Suge. That is common knowledge. Oh. You think bullets have GPS tracking on them?
@@JohnBaillie18It could have been unexpected from all parties. He does have a point, though. It doesn’t seem like they were aiming for Suge, BUT Suge did get grazed in the head; pretty badly.
@@TheDripGodz exactly. Plus, he's done nothing but bad mouth suge to the point he's forgotten that suge was a victim of this, not a suspect. I'm not a fan of things suge did but it's clear this coptertainer is telling us a story
Suge said he held 2pac down when he tried to escape the shooting, then he drove opposite direction but Suge said 2Pac was joking with Suge while they drove in the wrong direction.
So you want him to let the people who shot Pac and Pac's enemies hear. How Pac was in pain bleeding with his eyes rolling behind his head struggling to breathe ..... ?
@@melvinhhcp3615 were you there in the car? obviously the adrenaline is so high at that moment you wont even notice where you got shot at. and where does this ptsd come from. if something happens to you it doesnt automaticly mean you got PTSD lol. and yes obviously they probably werent joking and laughing about anything but where do you come up with this stuff.
@@takke7969He was shot in the lung...when that is filling up with liquid and you drowning in your own blood adrenaline cannot help. People like Suge and Napoleon are biased and try to paint Pac as some kind of superhero.
Your mind goes blank when you getting shot or shot at. Your adrenaline goes threw the roof and the only thing you thinking about is getting out that jam. Ain’t nothing suspicious about it
Even if you know where the hospital is you may not know the fastest route to it in a moment's notice and wind up having to backtrack after you realize it's the other way. This guy is a cop though, so his experience at work involved way more travels to the hospital than any citizens. He probably knows how to get to the hospital from anywhere in his town in the blink of an eye. The rest of us don't patrol streets or investigate at the hospital and won't be as adept as a cop at getting to the hospital quickly.
Yeah, if Suge was going in the wrong direction, it more tells me he was just panicked & wanted to drive the opposite direction of the shooters cause he didn't know if they were planning to finish the job. Suge probably didn't even realize the shooters turned right on to another street. Suge probably peeled immediately, did a u-turn, and didn't look back.
Ok Orlando was jumped by multiple people in death row that night. Did anybody ever think … Why he only targeted & killed 2pac after? This is why it all seems like the perfect recipe for a hit.
Because I the gang culture you know who's who.. Tupac hit him and he's not a gang member.. Mob James said the fact Orlando mindset might been "this dude ain't nuthin but a rapper.." he had to retaliate off the strength of that alone.. the other dudes were respected gang members.. you lose respect goin back to the hood and they telling you "You let Pac take off on you ?"
I don't know if it was orchestrated, or if Tupac stunted it to dissappear and even the police and hollywood helped, but Ch.Crrll k!ll.d Tupac YB Law & Crime3'18''. = oeXzV-rkk8M "I still had the gun in my hand" "I STILL" ... ...🔫⛑️🎱 So no, he "didn't let 2Pac die" he k!ll.d 2Pac💯💯
You don't just dip when ya homie get shot up . He knew that was gonna go down he plugged in on the streets so he would of known if there was a bag on pac head
What you mean how is it strange, it was a hospital in the direction they was going and then suge knew Vegas and where errthang was at in Vegas, Suge knew wat he was doing
I totally agree about the BMW. That thing would be worth millions today if it was kept in it's original condition!!! It's still worth quite a bit but man I couldn't even imagine if it was left in it's original condition
Who cares about that Easy Money. Pac still has a family out there still grieving. What part of showcasing the original BMW seems right? Have some morals !
The more I hear about that night I feel like suge used pac as a shield I think pac was trying to get out the way and I think suge was holding from getting out the way
@@nenej12The first shot into the bmw was at the backseat. PAC wasn’t hit yet and could’ve easily jumped back there as they continue to shoot into the front seat where Suge would be fully exposed to the shooter. Come on man he used pac as a shield because he was scared it’s really not rocket science. Why would he lie about such a life changing incident? “PAC laughed the whole way” “I told him no get down” yea fuckin right Suge isn’t putting anyone first before his own life that’s bs. They only were close for 11 months and he was ready to die for him?
Guys Im not one of these crazy Suge haters but it dose make sense that Suge would have used PAC as a shield an he seemed nervous asking PACs dad at the hospital if Tupac spoke? shuge probably thought n case PAC pulls through I'll say I was trying to pull him down so he wouldn't get hit remember what keef d said in the interview that PAC looked like he was brake danceing what would it look like if PAC was trying to get in the back an Suge was trying to hold him down in front of him maybe it's a bs idea idk
I think Suge was simply panicked and trying his best to get TF out of harms way. I'm sure he probably thought someone might have been following him trying to "finish the job"
Suge never got shot tho. He missed 10 bullets. If the shooter wanted to finish the job, it would've been done while they were still sitting at the red light.
@@melvinhhcp3615 doesn't matter if he got shot or not....He was still sitting in a vehicle that just got dumped on and his friend is sitting there bleeding out....He's panicked.....you talking from the POV of the shooter, not the person who just got shot at
@@atlantabirdgang It absolutely matters if Suge was shot... If he really gave af, he wouldn't have driven back to the Las Vegas Strip instead of going to 2 nearby hospitals... I'm talking from the POV of a critical thinker that actually knows the facts.
@@melvinhhcp3615 nothing critical about your thinking.... Suge was in a car where the clip was just emptied. He sees Pac bleeding out and critically injured and he got blood oozing out his own head. He's panicked and probably in shock.... He's trying to get away from the line of fire
@@atlantabirdgang Bruh, Suge missed 10 of 14 bullets. Pac actually caught 4. What part of this are you not understanding? Lol... He panicked enough to drive back into Mike Tyson traffic on the Strip? Make it make sense... A "6'4" 350lb man that misses ten bullets at a red light simply wasn't being aimed at. That is all. There is no other explanation. Any school girl would've shot him at least 3-4x. He got NONE!
imagine having more detail when suge & tupac left suge house. Nobody speaks on that. What were their conversations. Who all attended suge home and left with the entourage. Were they followed to his home?
Wasn't there some girls that pulled up next to the car right after they were stopped by the police how come so little info about these girls were they at the other side of the car when it was being shot at?
Reggie confirmed they had a gun in the car. Take most of what this guy says with a grain of salt. He was there the night of the shooting however he was on bike patrol and was NOT an investigator on the case.
don’t trust guys who regurgitate or try to discredit something based off what corrupt cops like Reggie jr/sr and Greg kading, documented corrupt cop kading is and keefe know reggie sr.
Either the car was going to be used for evidence or be recycled. "A piece of history" is a very disturbing mindset. To have things from a famous person who was assassinated...also would like to hear from the nurses and doctors that actually tried to save Tupac's life. There is only so much an ex cop can say when he allegedly was the first on the scene. Also he needs to dive deeper into the police who Suge Knight and Tupac.
Ppl with a heart & true fans or family wouldn't want to look at a bullet riddled car. So I understand the person fixing it up. That would give me anxiety looking at a car still in the same condition where a major crime took place. Smh
I'm interested to hear more about how the stash boxes worked in death row vehicles. I've heard a few people say there was a stash box in the BMW a few times, and that 2pac was going for a gun when he got shot.
I've only ever seen one in real life. This was back in 2001 in a late 90s Crown Vic. If you look up "1998 crown victoria passenger interior" and look at the "panel" looking thing above the glovebox, next to the air vent, possibly an airbag? It was that. The owner claimed to have two compartments, but I only witnessed the one. He did a combination of buttons on the dash and it popped out from a door popper solenoid (popular in shaved trucks of the 90s) and was attached to a tray. I had no clue looking at it when closed. Looking up close for the lines. No indication whatsoever. I dont remember the button combination used just that it involved left side of the dash and right side. It's possible he was intentionally misleading me while showing me also. Inside had a weapon and other goodies. The tray it slid on had foam inside so you wouldn't hear the metal weapon slide or bounce around. Every now and then I'll see some other designs on the news. The most recent one i saw was the entire floorboard was lifted up with hydraulic pumps, look it up. I'm told these compartments are increasingly common for cartels these days
There were No cell phone cameras back then but there were PLENTY of cameras still in those days - people used to have photo albums before phones had cameras, Lots of pictures were taken of Pac & with Pac by people inside the MGM after the fight, the strip is filled with tourists who carry cameras, so from the time Suge crashed the BMW till they took Pac out the car, laid him down, gold shining with blood & all the stories this guy tells in his interviews till they loaded him into the ambulance it doesn't make sense that there hasn't been ONE photograph of that released - Plus the video from inside where Pac is yelling 50 punches after they Tyson fight had more footage released on Defiant Ones documentary, then more came out on Dear Mama documentary, so the full unedited version of that cameraman video following Pac around probably caught the fight with Orlando, its out there somewhere
I'm not a big conspiracy person but i do find that odd also, that nobody has an pictures/film of everything that happened after the shots were fired, especially being we have a picture of him literally seconds before the shots rang out.....and how come we haven't had any bystanders ever come out and speak.....The Women in the car before the shooting -- where are they at ?
Been saying the same thing for years yet we have black n white pix of Martin and Malcolm shot2death in the 60z at the scenes of the crimes...I'm 48 and still waiting to see at least one pic📸 of Makaveli shotUp one pic of 📸BIG shotUp at the scenes of the crimes. Makaveli did say "Plan,Plot, Strategize but Bomb 1st"💣💥💣💥💣💥💯😎💨💨👍
@@MrRyan-fd9rdthe bicycle cops talking about shit he knows nothing about prior to tupac and suge running into him he did other interviews for documentaries where he didn't say half this shit dudes lying for the money and clout
Salute to the people, The Art Of Dialogue, and Chris. I think Suge drove a way from the hospital in a panic. It was reactionary. I don't think he realized what he was doing at that moment in time. He was trying to get the hell out of the way and simply get to a hospital ASAP. The fact that some have tried to take that and spin it into unnecessary mess including another silly-ass conspiracy theories is sad to me.
So it made sense to drive away from 2 hospitals, but go back to the fkn LAS VEGAS STRIP after a Saturday evening Tyson fight, even though he went to UNLV 4 years, and had a home & club in Vegas?! 😐... Yeah, aight. (Sarcasm)
@@melvinhhcp3615 i'm pretty sure he was just trying to drive away from the epople who shot him and not drive away from the hospital. plus when something like that is going on idoubt you. thinking clearly.
Tupac’s my idol. I’ve watched hundreds of videos, theories, interviews, etc regarding the rehash of all this. We never talk about why he was convinced to NOT wear his vest upon leaving the hotel after changing clothes. We never talk about his security was telling the outlaws to NOT bring their guns. the fact that one of his securities guards was an informant for the government… too many holes to point to when it comes to that night… I hate it. LLTupac
Google 2Pac with a Bulletproof Vest and you will find 0 photos. Pac rapped about that shit, but realistically never wore it because they were impractical in the 90's... 2 Glock shawty rapped the vest as security, but never really had it... Maybe rapped about the twin Glocks 10 times but had them 80% of the time. I just think Cuzz was late to the draw.
Nigga nobody can make pac not wear a vest. None of the outlaws could legally carry a gun so why take the risk when you ot. Bruh let it go, if Tupac didn’t touch Orlando he would still be here.
Why do we need to talk about these things? What is that supposed to do? And how ironic that some make it seem like everything was so orchestrated, but for 2pac himself to make those decisions with his vest or being willing to take part in a gang fight points to 2pac himself being involved in his own death more than any theory otherwise.
Exactly. The same “killer” that killed Pac over a fight, accepted money and testified on Suge behalf for the same fight. People really believe Orlando did it. Nah
The car was repaired to cover any evidence of what happend . The car was definitely not combed thru by forensics the way he’s stating . There is only 1 company with footage after the shooting and it’s a photography company strangely
Your mind is not thinking clearly when you get shot. My first thought when it was over what's to see if my friend who's a nurse had some antibiotics and could patch me up. Then I realized I wasn't John Wick and went to the hospital
@@chrismale9976 Looks like it. I used to be on the fence because that shit to the side of his head, but the new information that's come out I'm no longer on the fence.
@ademoss80 Yea for sure.... saw a doc years ago from a cop who dug into the case.... suges blood coming from his head was from shattered glass not a bullet. Pac was leaving the label so Suge with his corrupt contacts in the police had him whacked.
The company who own the car, confirmed absolutely 100% they had a stash box in the car. It still exists and allegedly hasn't been opened (at least by them).
And where can one find this info? Cause I'm pretty sure you weren't there at the time of the crime nor did you know Pac or Suge personally to know this. So where on the Internet can someone find this information?
Who is the one that gave the description of the shooters vehicle? I seen an interview and they described a different vehicle. How did they find out who gave the right description?
The females Suge and pac spoke with at the light described the white Cadillac shooting and then turning right while they seen the bloods chase them and both start shooting at each other. The females were two key witnesses.
Nothing suspicious. After the shooting, Suge knew who did it, knew what might happen, cops are now involved, and all the thoughts of consequences of that night kicked in. Question I have is was Suge's car in park? How didn't his foot hit the pedal when the shooting was happening? How didn't the car in front of them just take off?
@@pedrogates3189 red light yes. But was the car in park? Think about it car is getting lit up and he's moving. Suge is huge how didn't his foot hit the pedal?
TRUTH ..WHY DID SUGE DRIVE AWAY AND NOT TOWARD’S THD HOSPITAL THIS HAS BEEN SAID HE DID THIS FOR YEAR’S I ALMOST FORGOT ABOUT THAT. THAT PPL SAID MADE HIM LOOK GUILTY.
They drove in the opposite direction from getting shot at, car full dudes pull up and shoot your car up you not gonna go in the same direction following them to probably get shot at again, you gonna go in the opposite direction and try to figure it out, yall act like the man drove into the desert. He went back to the strip were everybody was at.
Like I keep saying in the other comments. The bloods chased the Cadillac right after the shooting returning fire. If two females can say they saw that than Suge saw that and knew the bloods was going after them. He simply went the wrong way so pac can have a small chance to live considering pac would’ve immediately said “he tried using me as a shield”. No way pac survives and says “yea he pulled me down and away” he would’ve been more paranoid that he tried to get into the backseat and Suge grabbed him. Suge panicked and did some fucked up shit that he probably does deeply regret but it was instinct on not wanting to be shot himself. He was close with pac 11 months and already had problems with him there’s no way he’s ready to die for a man who’s planning on leaving his company.
The real shooter used blanks. There was no Keefe D or Orlando in a white Cadillac..there was a white Cadillac but the fake shooter will remain a secret. The BMW with the holes was the final scene car in place
What people need to remember is that Suge and pac were moving incorrectly for a minute or 2 before this unfortunate murder. Being an older black male now I understand when you’re young you did things and got in situations you’re lucky to have survived. With that reckless mindset and a budget of millions it’s not hard to see how it happened
Stash boxes were in full effect back then. Pistol Pete's NC case was caught after stash box was found in impounded car weeks later. AutoClinic in the Bx made them.
He got shot in the head at close range & was still able to drive a car, stop, get in an ambulance, then check himself out of E.R. hours later before the sun came up. 🙄... Aight
So 2Pac's car was in the middle? I had always understood they were lead vehicle and got suck behind a car at the red light when queefey D pulled up on them.
I agree that fixing that car was the dumbest thing you could do. Btw that was the last reliable 7 series they ever made!!! Suge should have had it bulletproof!!
They tried to pawn it on Pawn Stars or 1of the shows.. Sick as it sounds they definitely shoulda kept the car as was after the shooting , clean but shot up with the busted tires/rim It would be worth a lot more
@@TheDripGodz tf are you yapping about?? EVERY SINGLE image and/or work of art by Tupac that has been put out since his death was done so to EXPLOIT that man's death and bring in revenue. Get off that weak self-righteous high horse, crack open that cement block above your shoulders, and learn something about how the entertainment biz works......newsflash......dead artists get exploited. Your idol is no different 🤫😒
@@melvinhhcp3615 so you refuse to believe in logic that if multiple rounds are bing fired into the car where there are two passengers that the other cannot be hit or grazed by bullet fragments, everyone from napoleon, Greg Karina, suge lawyer and suge plus doctors have known he has a bullet fragment in his head which doctors have advised him to remove it, it’s not so far fetched
Thank you for say'n that. I saw an article in one of the mags (Vibe or Source) in '96/97 that gave a layout of the area of the shooting, and it shows that Suge drove away from the hospital, which was closer than going back to the strip. I always thought that was suspicious considering he knew that city
Setup!!!... It seems to me that Suge wanted Pac's death on full public display. Why tf else would he drive backwards to the Strip after a Tyson fight? SMH
@@atlantabirdgang yes it is. wtf are you man? you think if the people that were shooting at them would follow them to a hospital where possibly more cops are.... you hella dumb. That location would be the smartest place to head for. I would head their hoping the dumb fuck follows me so he can get rolled up. they chase you and you get hit when they follow? guess what you saved yourself and got medical attention. Man id hate to be in your car with that shit goin down. we all be dead
in the last pic of Tupac ever taken there is a little red area that is marked out by his thigh, some say that could have been a gun he was holding and it was sitting on his leg but i guess we'll never know
That man’s mind probably was all over the place . I’m sure that was the worse day of his life .
maybe his life sentence
Fr and he was bleeding from the head. He probably thought he was gonna die. People act like they would act normal during that scenario. You wouldn’t.
Lmao he went to school at UNLV. Yall are so gullible. Vegas was a setup
@@paradiseplayer5103a piece of glass hit his head...
@@qthe6thmanregardless of that fact his adrenaline must’ve been through the roof that night
Been saying that for years. Sunrise hospital is just north of UNLV not far from where the shooting took place. Marion drove the opposite way.
Just weird how the DAY of, 2pacs crew was told to not being any of their weapons and hours later he’s shot in a drive by where no crew member can fire back…..
RIP THE ONLY AND REAL 🐐
Until he returns
Ah. Yes. Most people think clearly when they are unexpectedly shot at and possibly being followed. 🤔
14 bullets hit the bmw. Pac took 4. Suge missed 10, even though he "6'4" & weighed 340-350lbs in 96. Nobody was aiming at him. Stop it.
@@melvinhhcp3615because that’s how people think while getting shot at. ‘Hmmm yes, they have fired 14 bullets at my automobile, with my above average height and weight it is a miracle that I havent been killed!’
@@JohnBaillie18If they were shooting at him, why didn't he get shot?! Tell me. How did they miss a sitting target that big at a fkn red light, after Pac was already slumped.
@@melvinhhcp3615 2pac jumped into the back seat of the car and that is why he was hit with more bullets than Suge. That is common knowledge. Oh. You think bullets have GPS tracking on them?
@@JohnBaillie18It could have been unexpected from all parties. He does have a point, though. It doesn’t seem like they were aiming for Suge, BUT Suge did get grazed in the head; pretty badly.
Cops don't do interviews on these types of platforms unless they're trying to paint a narrative. That's all I'm saying
Facts… taking about PAC last words was F you… 😂 , this cop is an entertainer just like the rappers.
@@TheDripGodz exactly. Plus, he's done nothing but bad mouth suge to the point he's forgotten that suge was a victim of this, not a suspect. I'm not a fan of things suge did but it's clear this coptertainer is telling us a story
Seems like the cop is appeasing the Pac fans by admitting he said FU.
I'm sure Pac could say more if he could muster those words. Who knows
He contradict himself he talking bout FU was his last words as if he was in the ambulance with him . He did live for 6 days after that
This guy clearly has an agenda
Suge said he held 2pac down when he tried to escape the shooting, then he drove opposite direction but Suge said 2Pac was joking with Suge while they drove in the wrong direction.
Facts. Suge was complicit. Pac was shot in the lung & had untreated ptsd from the new york shooting. He wasn't joking about shit.
So you want him to let the people who shot Pac and Pac's enemies hear. How Pac was in pain bleeding with his eyes rolling behind his head struggling to breathe ..... ?
@@melvinhhcp3615You're a goof. Suge didn't have shit to do with it. He was panicking.
@@melvinhhcp3615 were you there in the car? obviously the adrenaline is so high at that moment you wont even notice where you got shot at. and where does this ptsd come from. if something happens to you it doesnt automaticly mean you got PTSD lol. and yes obviously they probably werent joking and laughing about anything but where do you come up with this stuff.
@@takke7969He was shot in the lung...when that is filling up with liquid and you drowning in your own blood adrenaline cannot help. People like Suge and Napoleon are biased and try to paint Pac as some kind of superhero.
Your mind goes blank when you getting shot or shot at. Your adrenaline goes threw the roof and the only thing you thinking about is getting out that jam. Ain’t nothing suspicious about it
Facts!!!
Even if you know where the hospital is you may not know the fastest route to it in a moment's notice and wind up having to backtrack after you realize it's the other way. This guy is a cop though, so his experience at work involved way more travels to the hospital than any citizens. He probably knows how to get to the hospital from anywhere in his town in the blink of an eye. The rest of us don't patrol streets or investigate at the hospital and won't be as adept as a cop at getting to the hospital quickly.
You been shot before?
@@ijumpjudyyou just make different accounts all day hating. Link up
Yeah, if Suge was going in the wrong direction, it more tells me he was just panicked & wanted to drive the opposite direction of the shooters cause he didn't know if they were planning to finish the job. Suge probably didn't even realize the shooters turned right on to another street. Suge probably peeled immediately, did a u-turn, and didn't look back.
They sure did took all the history out of it. I never understand why they changed the car
I'm sure his family wouldn't want the car displayed. I think it'd be a cool part of history. Like the Bonnie and Clyde car.
Yeah they made a bad decision by doing that.
Ok Orlando was jumped by multiple people in death row that night. Did anybody ever think … Why he only targeted & killed 2pac after? This is why it all seems like the perfect recipe for a hit.
Exactly!
True
Because I the gang culture you know who's who.. Tupac hit him and he's not a gang member.. Mob James said the fact Orlando mindset might been "this dude ain't nuthin but a rapper.." he had to retaliate off the strength of that alone.. the other dudes were respected gang members.. you lose respect goin back to the hood and they telling you "You let Pac take off on you ?"
I'd re-entitle this video as: when you start to blame others bc you realized that you may have said something that led to you
I don't know if it was orchestrated, or if Tupac stunted it to dissappear and even the police and hollywood helped, but Ch.Crrll k!ll.d Tupac
YB Law & Crime3'18''. = oeXzV-rkk8M
"I still had the gun in my hand"
"I STILL" ... ...🔫⛑️🎱
So no, he "didn't let 2Pac die" he k!ll.d 2Pac💯💯
YB Law & Cr!me 3'18'' Ch. Crrll:
"I still had the gun in my hand"
"I STILL" ... ...🔫⛑🎱
So no,
he "didn't let 2Pac die"
he k!ll.d 2Pac💯💯
Can't wait for Reggie to respond about the stash box
How is that strange suge was just driving with adrenaline . His car had been shot up he was getting out of there . Ridiculous
I think they mean when he left the hospital not after the shooting
You don't just dip when ya homie get shot up . He knew that was gonna go down he plugged in on the streets so he would of known if there was a bag on pac head
What you mean how is it strange, it was a hospital in the direction they was going and then suge knew Vegas and where errthang was at in Vegas, Suge knew wat he was doing
@@geralddragons3213who is you
@@Itachisimplysuperior naw he had nothing to do with it.. no evident or proof of that
dammit art, you giving away the game 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I totally agree about the BMW. That thing would be worth millions today if it was kept in it's original condition!!! It's still worth quite a bit but man I couldn't even imagine if it was left in it's original condition
Who cares about that Easy Money. Pac still has a family out there still grieving. What part of showcasing the original BMW seems right? Have some morals !
@@ijumpjudy puffy is that you?
@ijumpjudy at least you're consistently corny. I mean seriously, you are the least funniest person on UA-cam
@@ijumpjudy whatever you say, goofball. Your terrible jokes are an insult to comedy. Your family should be embarrassed, and you should be too
@@ijumpjudyjackass
The more I hear about that night I feel like suge used pac as a shield I think pac was trying to get out the way and I think suge was holding from getting out the way
Pac got hit more times & the keefe d dude said pac was trying to get in the back seat
Stop saying that 🙄
@@nenej12The first shot into the bmw was at the backseat. PAC wasn’t hit yet and could’ve easily jumped back there as they continue to shoot into the front seat where Suge would be fully exposed to the shooter. Come on man he used pac as a shield because he was scared it’s really not rocket science. Why would he lie about such a life changing incident? “PAC laughed the whole way” “I told him no get down” yea fuckin right Suge isn’t putting anyone first before his own life that’s bs. They only were close for 11 months and he was ready to die for him?
Here's the UA-cam CSI team to spin their bullshit
Guys Im not one of these crazy Suge haters but it dose make sense that Suge would have used PAC as a shield an he seemed nervous asking PACs dad at the hospital if Tupac spoke? shuge probably thought n case PAC pulls through I'll say I was trying to pull him down so he wouldn't get hit remember what keef d said in the interview that PAC looked like he was brake danceing what would it look like if PAC was trying to get in the back an Suge was trying to hold him down in front of him maybe it's a bs idea idk
I think Suge was simply panicked and trying his best to get TF out of harms way. I'm sure he probably thought someone might have been following him trying to "finish the job"
Suge never got shot tho. He missed 10 bullets. If the shooter wanted to finish the job, it would've been done while they were still sitting at the red light.
@@melvinhhcp3615 doesn't matter if he got shot or not....He was still sitting in a vehicle that just got dumped on and his friend is sitting there bleeding out....He's panicked.....you talking from the POV of the shooter, not the person who just got shot at
@@atlantabirdgang It absolutely matters if Suge was shot... If he really gave af, he wouldn't have driven back to the Las Vegas Strip instead of going to 2 nearby hospitals... I'm talking from the POV of a critical thinker that actually knows the facts.
@@melvinhhcp3615 nothing critical about your thinking.... Suge was in a car where the clip was just emptied. He sees Pac bleeding out and critically injured and he got blood oozing out his own head. He's panicked and probably in shock.... He's trying to get away from the line of fire
@@atlantabirdgang Bruh, Suge missed 10 of 14 bullets. Pac actually caught 4. What part of this are you not understanding? Lol... He panicked enough to drive back into Mike Tyson traffic on the Strip? Make it make sense... A "6'4" 350lb man that misses ten bullets at a red light simply wasn't being aimed at. That is all. There is no other explanation. Any school girl would've shot him at least 3-4x. He got NONE!
I wanna hear about the cop car that pulled Pac and Suge over!! Right Before the shooting 🤔🤔🤔
Exactly
Yup
imagine having more detail when suge & tupac left suge house. Nobody speaks on that. What were their conversations. Who all attended suge home and left with the entourage. Were they followed to his home?
Wasn't there some girls that pulled up next to the car right after they were stopped by the police how come so little info about these girls
were they at the other side of the car when it was being shot at?
Was cops on a bike not a cop car
Reggie confirmed they had a gun in the car. Take most of what this guy says with a grain of salt. He was there the night of the shooting however he was on bike patrol and was NOT an investigator on the case.
I been saying this! How he get all this info I Call Cap on everything he said
And Reggie was there that night however he was in the club and he ain’t no investigator either
Reggie is also a bunch of cap.
Was Reggie an investigator on the case? This guy was in the department, I'm sure he was updated on things if he inquired and maybe even if he didn't.
don’t trust guys who regurgitate or try to discredit something based off what corrupt cops like Reggie jr/sr and Greg kading, documented corrupt cop kading is and keefe know reggie sr.
Either the car was going to be used for evidence or be recycled. "A piece of history" is a very disturbing mindset. To have things from a famous person who was assassinated...also would like to hear from the nurses and doctors that actually tried to save Tupac's life. There is only so much an ex cop can say when he allegedly was the first on the scene. Also he needs to dive deeper into the police who Suge Knight and Tupac.
Sadly, that's the way the world works. Just like the Bonnie & Clyde car that's still sitting on display with all of the bullet holes in it.
@@kennethmcclain3907mmm
The car is for sale now so no not for evidence
@@kennethmcclain3907where?
Ppl with a heart & true fans or family wouldn't want to look at a bullet riddled car. So I understand the person fixing it up. That would give me anxiety looking at a car still in the same condition where a major crime took place. Smh
why was the BMW taken out of evidence?
Why did he say this. Now people about to run with this and say that Suge was involved in Tupac’s death.
They been saying that for decades already, where you been
It's been said already for like 20 years lol gtfoh
I've been hearing that 26 years
his objective is to use disinformation to cause misdirection
@@arkhamknight6371 only dumb @$$ people believe that B.S
Chris Carrol watches pawn stars!!!! 😂 The BMW was on the show 😂😂😂
I'm interested to hear more about how the stash boxes worked in death row vehicles. I've heard a few people say there was a stash box in the BMW a few times, and that 2pac was going for a gun when he got shot.
I've only ever seen one in real life. This was back in 2001 in a late 90s Crown Vic. If you look up "1998 crown victoria passenger interior" and look at the "panel" looking thing above the glovebox, next to the air vent, possibly an airbag? It was that. The owner claimed to have two compartments, but I only witnessed the one. He did a combination of buttons on the dash and it popped out from a door popper solenoid (popular in shaved trucks of the 90s) and was attached to a tray. I had no clue looking at it when closed. Looking up close for the lines. No indication whatsoever. I dont remember the button combination used just that it involved left side of the dash and right side. It's possible he was intentionally misleading me while showing me also. Inside had a weapon and other goodies. The tray it slid on had foam inside so you wouldn't hear the metal weapon slide or bounce around. Every now and then I'll see some other designs on the news. The most recent one i saw was the entire floorboard was lifted up with hydraulic pumps, look it up. I'm told these compartments are increasingly common for cartels these days
The BMW was rental
There were No cell phone cameras back then but there were PLENTY of cameras still in those days - people used to have photo albums before phones had cameras, Lots of pictures were taken of Pac & with Pac by people inside the MGM after the fight, the strip is filled with tourists who carry cameras, so from the time Suge crashed the BMW till they took Pac out the car, laid him down, gold shining with blood & all the stories this guy tells in his interviews till they loaded him into the ambulance it doesn't make sense that there hasn't been ONE photograph of that released - Plus the video from inside where Pac is yelling 50 punches after they Tyson fight had more footage released on Defiant Ones documentary, then more came out on Dear Mama documentary, so the full unedited version of that cameraman video following Pac around probably caught the fight with Orlando, its out there somewhere
I'm not a big conspiracy person but i do find that odd also, that nobody has an pictures/film of everything that happened after the shots were fired, especially being we have a picture of him literally seconds before the shots rang out.....and how come we haven't had any bystanders ever come out and speak.....The Women in the car before the shooting -- where are they at ?
@@atlantabirdgangThe women in the car have had interviews. All of which you can find on this exact website
Been saying the same thing for years yet we have black n white pix of Martin and Malcolm shot2death in the 60z at the scenes of the crimes...I'm 48 and still waiting to see at least one pic📸 of Makaveli shotUp one pic of 📸BIG shotUp at the scenes of the crimes. Makaveli did say "Plan,Plot, Strategize but Bomb 1st"💣💥💣💥💣💥💯😎💨💨👍
Exactly. Where are they at now?
@@atlantabirdgang
One word:
Makaveli
He gives good responses and is articulate. Great job Art, getting him on the platform.
He don't know what the fuck he's talking about though
@@juniorbest7777in what way?
He gets the white agent on his platform and I'm out of here. And I only just subbed
@@MrRyan-fd9rdthe bicycle cops talking about shit he knows nothing about prior to tupac and suge running into him
he did other interviews for documentaries where he didn't say half this shit
dudes lying for the money and clout
@@MrMathokshateful racists like you aren't welcome here. You leaving is no loss. Goodbye. 🖕
I always question Suge going the wrong way.
For obvious reasons: to have Pac's death seen by the entire las vegas strip on a summer saturday evening.
@@melvinhhcp3615
Makaveli
Salute to the people, The Art Of Dialogue, and Chris. I think Suge drove a way from the hospital in a panic. It was reactionary. I don't think he realized what he was doing at that moment in time. He was trying to get the hell out of the way and simply get to a hospital ASAP. The fact that some have tried to take that and spin it into unnecessary mess including another silly-ass conspiracy theories is sad to me.
So it made sense to drive away from 2 hospitals, but go back to the fkn LAS VEGAS STRIP after a Saturday evening Tyson fight, even though he went to UNLV 4 years, and had a home & club in Vegas?! 😐... Yeah, aight. (Sarcasm)
@@melvinhhcp3615 i'm pretty sure he was just trying to drive away from the epople who shot him and not drive away from the hospital. plus when something like that is going on idoubt you. thinking clearly.
@@devangpatel5227 Suge wasn't shot. 14 total bullets. Pac got 4. Suge completely missed 10 at point blank range. Facts. It's illogical.
You just said you think Suge drove away *from* a hospital in order to get *to* a hospital. Make it make sense.
@melvinhhcp3615 no he still has a 40 calibre fragment in his head and that is documented facts
Suge is still alive. He knows.
Where even is this in his house? The police had the car dummy
@@ijumpjudy
Nice
And he drove over a dummy he went to prison for murder it's all fake
You going die a hater 🤡😂😂
Mob James said Suge can't identify the shooter without incriminating himself.
Suge An Puffy Know Tha Deal
I thought the door was taken off as evidence n shredded later by the police. One would think police woulda kept that car for years as evidence
Tupac’s my idol. I’ve watched hundreds of videos, theories, interviews, etc regarding the rehash of all this.
We never talk about why he was convinced to NOT wear his vest upon leaving the hotel after changing clothes. We never talk about his security was telling the outlaws to NOT bring their guns. the fact that one of his securities guards was an informant for the government… too many holes to point to when it comes to that night… I hate it. LLTupac
Google 2Pac with a Bulletproof Vest and you will find 0 photos. Pac rapped about that shit, but realistically never wore it because they were impractical in the 90's... 2 Glock shawty rapped the vest as security, but never really had it... Maybe rapped about the twin Glocks 10 times but had them 80% of the time. I just think Cuzz was late to the draw.
Nigga nobody can make pac not wear a vest. None of the outlaws could legally carry a gun so why take the risk when you ot. Bruh let it go, if Tupac didn’t touch Orlando he would still be here.
2pac was setup, NOTHING will convenience me otherwise!
Why do we need to talk about these things? What is that supposed to do? And how ironic that some make it seem like everything was so orchestrated, but for 2pac himself to make those decisions with his vest or being willing to take part in a gang fight points to 2pac himself being involved in his own death more than any theory otherwise.
Exactly. The same “killer” that killed Pac over a fight, accepted money and testified on Suge behalf for the same fight. People really believe Orlando did it. Nah
Stash boxes aren’t "urban legends". I had one in my car and my truck
Desert Springs Hospital is about 2 miles east of Koval, on Flamingo, I dont see how Suge wouldn't have know that.
Exactly. The trauma center hospital where Pac ended up going to anyway was 10mins away. Suge knew this, but still went back to the Strip.
He said they was still “ running “ meaning they… (cops) was chasing them ! 🤔
Shit I lived in my city 15+ I don’t know how to get to hospital lol
Hahah facts.
I thought Reggie said they did find a gun in a stash box somewhere down the line
The car was repaired to cover any evidence of what happend . The car was definitely not combed thru by forensics the way he’s stating . There is only 1 company with footage after the shooting and it’s a photography company strangely
This is how air pods are supposed to be worn. We are all doing it wrong……
Lol😅😅😅😅
Y’all ain’t interview this man for no reason other than to talk about tupac death for 35 parts that’s crazy 😂😂😭😭
Exactly lmao
@@LARK-ht7kdlol I guess he getting paid to do it 😂
Art is becoming VLAD
@@TribalCheif-ku4vneverybody becoming vladtv it seem like 🤦♂️
Reggie himself said the guns were still in the hidden compartment when they got it back
And he would know more than anybody
Anyone ever noticed that the jersey Tupac was wearing was the same jersey he wore in the "How do you want it" video?
ok?
They had that car fixed on purpose so they wouldn't go back and figure out what really happened type shyt
Your mind is not thinking clearly when you get shot. My first thought when it was over what's to see if my friend who's a nurse had some antibiotics and could patch me up. Then I realized I wasn't John Wick and went to the hospital
Suge wasn't shot tho
That car could have definitely been a museum piece.
No one cares
@@gsp1634 True Fans do
FACTS..A PIECE OF HISTORY..A ONE IN A MILLION THINGS TO SAY THAT YOU OWN..
I find it very hard to believe that neither Suge or Pac had a gun, unless Suge already knew.
He had him killed
@@chrismale9976 Looks like it. I used to be on the fence because that shit to the side of his head, but the new information that's come out I'm no longer on the fence.
@ademoss80 Yea for sure.... saw a doc years ago from a cop who dug into the case.... suges blood coming from his head was from shattered glass not a bullet. Pac was leaving the label so Suge with his corrupt contacts in the police had him whacked.
The company who own the car, confirmed absolutely 100% they had a stash box in the car. It still exists and allegedly hasn't been opened (at least by them).
They didnt open it 😂😂😂😂
And where can one find this info? Cause I'm pretty sure you weren't there at the time of the crime nor did you know Pac or Suge personally to know this. So where on the Internet can someone find this information?
@@amandanichole8648 Why don't you contact the company selling the car and hear this information first hand?
Urban legend? No! Cars have hidden compartments buddy. You can’t be this clueless
Suge Knight accusers are in the same camp as flat earthers at this point
So when's your next conjugal visit. Tell simon I said hello... Fkn 🤡
Who is the one that gave the description of the shooters vehicle? I seen an interview and they described a different vehicle. How did they find out who gave the right description?
They were seen in that white caddy at 662 so whoever gave that description knew it was them
Yaki and mob James
Yaki and mob James
The females Suge and pac spoke with at the light described the white Cadillac shooting and then turning right while they seen the bloods chase them and both start shooting at each other. The females were two key witnesses.
The question is why 2pac told him to fk kff
That would be crazy if they still had that legendary car the same way it was in 96 sold for a million then that would b crazy 💯
I don't believe a word this bicycle cops rate Ian Bogart in his way into that case
This Whole Case With Big and Pac Is Like Trying To Find out Who Killed Jfk We'll Never no
Know
When it's hard to get answers it's is usually by design
Nothing suspicious. After the shooting, Suge knew who did it, knew what might happen, cops are now involved, and all the thoughts of consequences of that night kicked in. Question I have is was Suge's car in park? How didn't his foot hit the pedal when the shooting was happening? How didn't the car in front of them just take off?
They were at a red light the car pulled up on the side of them
@@pedrogates3189what does that have to do with the original question?
My only guess is they were boxed in by agents , other then that i cant understand how he didnt just drive
Even if he hit the person in front of him
Coz he was n on the hit didn’t realize they were suppose to unalive him as well, he did accelerate coz he was gone make sure they got Pac
@@pedrogates3189 red light yes. But was the car in park? Think about it car is getting lit up and he's moving. Suge is huge how didn't his foot hit the pedal?
I said the same thing about the car, that’s the dumbest thing they could’ve did fixing it back the way it was b4 it got hit up
@blackbull9916 it’s in somebody garage so I guess so.. maybe they felt they did all they can do with it.. but I’m not a cop so idk
Heard they interviewed the stop sign too😂
In the 90's cars had hidden compartments all the time that needed to be opened with Cruise control and some other steps.
Reggie Jr already put that on blast. There was a stash spot...
TRUTH ..WHY DID SUGE DRIVE AWAY AND NOT TOWARD’S THD HOSPITAL THIS HAS BEEN SAID HE DID THIS FOR YEAR’S I ALMOST FORGOT ABOUT THAT. THAT PPL SAID MADE HIM LOOK GUILTY.
They drove in the opposite direction from getting shot at, car full dudes pull up and shoot your car up you not gonna go in the same direction following them to probably get shot at again, you gonna go in the opposite direction and try to figure it out, yall act like the man drove into the desert. He went back to the strip were everybody was at.
To get the fk out the way they had both just been shot,
Like I keep saying in the other comments. The bloods chased the Cadillac right after the shooting returning fire. If two females can say they saw that than Suge saw that and knew the bloods was going after them. He simply went the wrong way so pac can have a small chance to live considering pac would’ve immediately said “he tried using me as a shield”. No way pac survives and says “yea he pulled me down and away” he would’ve been more paranoid that he tried to get into the backseat and Suge grabbed him. Suge panicked and did some fucked up shit that he probably does deeply regret but it was instinct on not wanting to be shot himself. He was close with pac 11 months and already had problems with him there’s no way he’s ready to die for a man who’s planning on leaving his company.
He Low key has become a Tupac Fan. I bet he has at least 3 Tupac Songs on his Playlist
🤣🤣
He knows profiting off of Tupac is easy
Shouldn't the car remain in poluce custody because it's an open case?
Correction Art, you talking about Big Meech and BMF crew
2 BMW's, 2 crime scenes, 2 escape routes and 2 pac's.....makivelli lives
The real shooter used blanks. There was no Keefe D or Orlando in a white Cadillac..there was a white Cadillac but the fake shooter will remain a secret. The BMW with the holes was the final scene car in place
People watch too many movies
@@machiavelli4428I can see that scenario
cringe
What people need to remember is that Suge and pac were moving incorrectly for a minute or 2 before this unfortunate murder. Being an older black male now I understand when you’re young you did things and got in situations you’re lucky to have survived. With that reckless mindset and a budget of millions it’s not hard to see how it happened
Stash boxes were in full effect back then. Pistol Pete's NC case was caught after stash box was found in impounded car weeks later. AutoClinic in the Bx made them.
Pawnstars almost owned it
Probably just bluffing for views no
One will pay 1 mill for a restored hearse
That joint was on Pawn Stars.
This guy look like a manager I know in 30 years
Suge had been shot in the head and his best friend murdered right beside him,
try acting normal in that situation ? f o h
He got shot in the head at close range & was still able to drive a car, stop, get in an ambulance, then check himself out of E.R. hours later before the sun came up. 🙄... Aight
your dog gets murdered in the seat beside you and youre so gangster it wouldnt faze you one bit eh my guy ? @@melvinhhcp3615
Shug was in shock
Nah more than one person talked about the stash box.
So 2Pac's car was in the middle? I had always understood they were lead vehicle and got suck behind a car at the red light when queefey D pulled up on them.
They were in the middle, 2nd car from the light & in the #2 lane.
That shit should’ve been put in some kind of museum
They want like $1.7 million for that BMW, sheeeeeeeeit!
Getting that car fixed was one of the dumbest things ever
The shooters had gone,
Orlando’s uncle K D was his friend they grew up together to & Orlando came to court as his witness.
His mind was probably all over the place.
I agree that fixing that car was the dumbest thing you could do. Btw that was the last reliable 7 series they ever made!!! Suge should have had it bulletproof!!
They tried to pawn it on Pawn Stars or 1of the shows..
Sick as it sounds
they definitely shoulda kept the car as was after the shooting , clean but shot up with the busted tires/rim
It would be worth a lot more
How would u feel if someone exploited your family members death for financial gain ? Have some morals ! It ain’t right !
Well, they have Bonnie and Clyde’s car on display just outside of Vegas in a casino along with Clyde’s shirt.
@@TheDripGodz tf are you yapping about?? EVERY SINGLE image and/or work of art by Tupac that has been put out since his death was done so to EXPLOIT that man's death and bring in revenue. Get off that weak self-righteous high horse, crack open that cement block above your shoulders, and learn something about how the entertainment biz works......newsflash......dead artists get exploited. Your idol is no different 🤫😒
He is responding to what he saw...because that is what he was suppose to see. 👀
The bmw was on pawn stars
Internal hit the fact that suge never got killed kefi and suge friends etc
He was hit to the head
@@sleepydank8330No he wasn't. That was glass.
@@melvinhhcp3615 he has a bullet fragment in his head
@@sleepydank8330 No doctor has verified this with x-rays.
@@melvinhhcp3615 so you refuse to believe in logic that if multiple rounds are bing fired into the car where there are two passengers that the other cannot be hit or grazed by bullet fragments, everyone from napoleon, Greg Karina, suge lawyer and suge plus doctors have known he has a bullet fragment in his head which doctors have advised him to remove it, it’s not so far fetched
Thank you for say'n that. I saw an article in one of the mags (Vibe or Source) in '96/97 that gave a layout of the area of the shooting, and it shows that Suge drove away from the hospital, which was closer than going back to the strip. I always thought that was suspicious considering he knew that city
nothing suspicious about driving the opposite way of gunfire, that's a natural reaction
Setup!!!... It seems to me that Suge wanted Pac's death on full public display. Why tf else would he drive backwards to the Strip after a Tyson fight? SMH
@@atlantabirdgang yes it is. wtf are you man? you think if the people that were shooting at them would follow them to a hospital where possibly more cops are.... you hella dumb. That location would be the smartest place to head for. I would head their hoping the dumb fuck follows me so he can get rolled up. they chase you and you get hit when they follow? guess what you saved yourself and got medical attention. Man id hate to be in your car with that shit goin down. we all be dead
@@atlantabirdgangIts absurd the number of people who don't get this
@kevinlee9929 What's absurd is the lack of comprehension. I said he drove away from the hospital to go back to the strip
Nah my mind didnt go blank i thought about secure myself an those with me everytime i was shot at but my mind wasnt ever blank
Pac deffly had 2 Glocks in a secret compartment in the car...
They should have not fixed the car up definitely would of been worth more maybe even sold by now
Who is tha person who decided to buy tha car and replace tha doors ?????? That person is never talked about
Closest hospital is not even 5 miles straight up Tropicana
Y’all be so quick to wanna believe conspiracy theories. Suge didn’t have nothing to do with 2pac’s death intentionally.
Wake up!!!
in the last pic of Tupac ever taken there is a little red area that is marked out by his thigh, some say that could have been a gun he was holding and it was sitting on his leg but i guess we'll never know
Suge is not living in vigas he just got a house in Vegas that time he was living in Los Angeles and suge know everything about everything back then 😅
It still AMAZES ME!!!!!
ALL these dialogues, but not ONE person said 2PAC was going back to Jail…..SMFH
“I’D DO ANYTHING to NOT GO BACK!”
Yep parole hearing on the 12th back in jail by the 13th
Right….
I've never heard about any gun being in suges car back in the nineties
I agree wit dude everytime someone i kno was shot or stabbed we was there until they said our family or friend was stable
Yeah when you are a regular civilian and a nobody
@@ranyk6 right lol.....folk critical thinking skills are on ZERO 🤦🏿♂️😭😭😭😭
Ain't none greater you buddy
If somebody dumping on me like that, Imma peel off past the hospital too cuz them 🥷s might be there too ready to buss
Makes no sense. N!ggaz don't do bang outs at hospitals. At the wake? Maybe. At the funeral? Possibly. But never at a hospital after a shooting.
The BMW that 2pac was shot in is for sale for $1,750,000 .
He saying cars like that with hidden compartments are urban legends. He mustv never heard of Bmf lol😂
They’re selling that bmw, it was leased by deathrow records. For 1.75 Million.