Mastering 1v9 with Inting Teammates: TEMPO Guide by Challenger Jungler
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
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its comforting to see that its not just me who gets teams that want to ff before i get strong
yy its mega cringe
In the first clear, if you spam Q off cooldown u can actually keep the stacks (so that you can move). But u have to instantly press it when it comes up.
The bigger problem which is quite surprising to see from a 1000LP player is the itemization - specifically the spirit visage purchase.
Lillia has only one source of healing (that was nerfed this patch and isn.t an extreme healing like zac picking up blobs). It is nice, but you have to stay a long time in combat with multiple people for it to actually give a lot of healing.
Spirit visage is meant for champions with very chunky heals or multiple heals / shields in their kit or team. This isn.t the case for lillia and you didn.t have enchanters in your team. In general, spirit visage is a bait item for lillia.
Besides the item passive being not very good for lillia, the context of the game was not fitting for it as well. The purpose for buying an MR item in this particular game ( and usually for any carry champion) is to resist AP burst dmg.
And that.s exactly what you needed in this game against zac cc + lb and aurora being able to burst you down and after that pyke comes with an execute. So you don.t have the time needed to regen with passive against this draft - these aren.t imobile bruisers you can kite around, these are mobile assassins that can and will.burst you down.
That is why you need kaenic rookern. It gives 20 more MR and a 700MR shield ( which is effectively 700HP more since they do so much AP dmg). You will be a lot more tanky and you get so much away from the pyke execute
1. Yep I know, that's why in the video I said I messed my clear up, I played the game at like 11pm and wasn't as focused as I should be.
2. You said 1 point of healing, no it's 3 points of healing if you build correctly if you should. However, kaenic was probably a better buy here in hindsight cause I didn't play optimally, also I didn't expect the damage from LB. But spirit healed 600 in 1 fight, kaenic shield would;'ve been 500 for 1 fight so in teamfights the math still checks out for spirit. I do think if you are low elo kaenic is better tho in this spot.
Hope this helps.
@hybradge Lillia has only 1 innate source of healing. I guess you are counting conq and riftmaker as two separate sources but they are just one (omnivamp). So at max you can say she has 2 soruces of healing (passive and omnivamp).
Either way, spirit visage amplifies all healing. That means it has reduced value if enemy has grievous wounds.
If you heal for 1000hp, it is first amplified by spirit visage and then reduced by grievous wounds.
SV amplifies it by 25% -> 1250.
Grievous wounds reduce by 40% of 1000 = 600
Grievous wounds after sv : 1000 +25% - 40%= 1250 - 40%= 750
So when you buy sv you would expect a 250 healing increase ( from 1000-1250) but you instead get a 150 increase ( from 600 -> 750). This is the diminishing returns i am referring.
And again the correct purchase of kaenic isn.t because of low elo / high elo, it.s because of the way the champion plays. Lillia back loaded dmg ( because of needing to wait for R sleep to then burst). To do that she first needs to survive the front loaded dmg of the oponents. Spirit visage doesn.t help her achieve that. Kaenic does. That.s why in all scenarios kaenic is better for lillia. In long skirmishes because of her passive and burn from liandry she wins anyway. She doesn.t need more combat over time power. Her weakness is front loaded dmg and getting bursted. If you are already 15 seconds in combat with a lillia, then it.s very likely you already lost
you can't say fucking then right after say you can't swear xdd
Nah bro i forgot to edit it out........... aussie accent slipped thru fr fr
How do you utlize Meijai
Not the way I did this game XD. But probably focus on taking secure fights, this game it was hard because I knew to win I had to 1v9 and also I didn't have enough for large rod so it was perfect buy, just not good execution! Pretty much I buy mejais when I feel like I need to 1v9 and I don't have money to buy other ap items.
You might be ok at tempo in the jungle but I'm definitely better at tempo in the youtube comment section.
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@@hybradge watch your language around me young man
the problem I'm facing right now is Lillia itemization i don't know what the correct build for certain team comp @@ do you have any idea?
Hm I go over it in detail in the lillia guide but I've got a cheat sheet in the lillia guide section of my discord if you want it. Its like a page of item builds that streamlines it for you.
What region is this?
EUW, I'm aussie but I live in EUW so I understand the confusion xd. I've played on 6 servers atp.
@@hybradge crap that's a lot of moving around region to region. military or something?
Step 1: have enemy team stack with 3, technically 4, AP champs
Step 2: Build MR
Step 3: Win
I mean it definitely helped to an extent but if you think that is the main reason we win this game then idk what to say...
@@hybradge nah man I'm just tilted because this is really high elo, and im sitting here in plat and I have not had this happen once for me as lillia.
Vid was great. tbh the enemy misplayed a lot, but that doesn't change the fact your shotcalling was really spot on, clearwise, as well as early obj's and ganks. I'm guilty of never ganking until I do my full clear, but early bot gank was clutch.
I was the person on the previous vid that suggested abyssal mask over other MR tank items, but I understand why it's less desirable on Lillia than a Diana/Zac/etc. Good thing Ornn covered that so there is literally no debate, Spirit Visage is strictly better in this game.
One last thing, thought it'd be worth some mention regarding lillia guides in general, Have you seen Rumble's Interaction with Abyssal mask? if he gets double enhanced E on a target he can reduce their MR by 90%(maybe not exactly 90%, but still) My norms 5 stack has been slamming 5 ap as a meme, and the rumble making a ksante with 5 MR items die to two Rumble E's and A SINGLE LILLIA Q is peak comedy.
@@TheSlayerOfTranzitI mean this is a rarety even in high elo where enemy team goes full ap, it usually happens when a team is full of ap otps and even then it's not that much of a problem because their proficiency with their champs outweighs the disadvantages of going full ap