be quiet! Silent Loop 2 360mm Review | bit-tech
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2021
- Check out Andy's latest review on the new be quiet! Silent Loop 2 360mm AIO cooler and see how it stacks up to some competition.
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That's some tremendous dedication to go reperform all those past tests. Good stuff
Great video, than you for redoing the testing! And for all that troubleshooting.
Thank you. 👍 Dug myself a bit of a hole using all the different wattage and fan profiles, it can't be automated easily so I do it all manually. Is very time consuming and frustrating when you find you've not set a bios, pump or fan profile right and have to discard a test, but at least in this instance they lead to some interesting results.
Thank you for your effort and time!!!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching 😃
Bit late to the party here, im getting this cooler soon. How do you control the pump/fans speed? Im guessing via the bios, but im not sure. Please let me know!
i watched it i liked it i bought it i subcribed !!!!good review man
Thanks man 😃 Such a good cooler, big improvement over the pureloop, fans are ridiculously quiet.
All the best and iron health!
Nice
I liked this vid.
I like it
I bought the Pure Loop 280 less than a month ago, then discovered they've branched out these into 2 separate versions. They said the Silent Loop 2 isn't coming to the US market so that appears to be why. I still found it odd though, I rather liked the pump being separate from the block now they'd integrated it back! I never did use the white led it's to bright. I mean it keeps a 5800x under 85C in Cinebench for what it's worth, not really saying much since the PBO boosts it higher based on temps.
yeh all thanks to asetek's ridiculous patents, which only the US seems intent on upholding. how much of the silent loops extra performance is down to the fans remains to be seen, but could be an interesting comparison to test both fans on one cooler.
Apparently, it is because of licensing, because of the litigious nature of Asetec.
Nice review and comparison. One improvement would be to record the pitch difference of the pumps at the different speeds rather than only talk about it.
Yeh good idea. I'm not sure how well it'd get picked up on my fairly crappy mic, but will give it a go.
Good review, yet again. Like the refill aspect of this cooler. A pity that Be Quiet only offer three years warranty on this, thought that they might have stretched to either five or six years.
Thanks 😃 Yeh that is a bit short. A lot of them now have 5-6 year warranties and especially with the refill option you'd think they'd extend it. Or maybe that's the cause of shortening it as once opened by the customer, all bets are off? Either way, warranty length is probably a good point to put in the reviews.👍
@@MakinComputers Well I decided to take to plunge, hopefully not literally in my first AIO water cooled setup.
a Meshify 2 XL case and then a Arctic Cooler 420mm AIO. With a cost of just under £100 UK pounds and a six years warranty it seems to tick the boxes.
Point taken with the warranty of the BQ, but they must be aware of the likes of Corsair with five years and AC of six.
The Arctic range of AIO's do seem to be pretty well respected in their capability and the 420 one should be more than capable.
@@Vimes. I've used the Arctic ones in a couple of builds and they're great, so so quiet. Installation is a doddle as all the fans already attached to the rad and wired up to the pump via a cable under the tubing sleeve. They have a thicker rad than most AIOs too which gives them excellent performance. You could probably add a GPU to the loop and it would still be ok 😂
@@MakinComputers Lol.
Overall it would be difficult to not select an AC branded AIO. Apart from not having control separately for the pump and fans (perhaps you could detach the fan connection if you really wanted and sort that..?) they are most attractive.
Hopefully it should be fine with my toasty 9900k.
@@Vimes. yeh you don't have to leave the fans connected to the pump, could hook them up separately if you wanted, but it's predominantly the fans that are controlled off the single pwm header you plug in. Not sure if it also does pump as well or if that's automated off internal temps.
Cool
I like be quiet products and have installed and used one of the Pure Loop AIOs. 1. This is not available in the US 2. List is $160, but cost is really closer to $195 (150 pounds) based on this review 3. no RGB except on block. Comparing this to the Lian Li Galahad 360 which is $147 and the EKWB Basic 360 at $129, the cooler doesn't offer better performance. A much better deal is the EKWB Elite at nearly the same $200 price tag, but this six RGB fans, a fan/ARGB controller and top level performance. You can get the latter for less than $200 now. The performance of the be quiet certainly keeps up with the top tier AIO from Arctic, Lian Li and EKWB, but at a premium. Some people will not care about RGB, might even prefer not having any at all. In that case the EKWB or Arctic non-RGB are cheaper with the same performance.
That really depends where you're buying it from. The UK price includes 20% sales tax (VAT), without it would be £125 which works out to about $165USD, so close to list price. While it doesn't have a lot of RGB, that's very much by design ethos, the build quality is outstanding and the high speed silent wings 3 fans cost about $25 each on their own, they're be quiets top of the range fan, with the specs and silence to match. That's ultimately what you're paying for.
@@MakinComputers Sorry, I obscured my point. My point was that if you want a non-RGB AIO with top performance, EKWB Basic will do it and for much less money. The EK has high-speed high static pressure Vardar fans, which are, I think just as quiet and perform just as well, for $129.00. I'm wondering what this AIO offers to warrant a cost of $165. For that same price of $165 you can get an AIO with RGB, if that matters, for $162 from EK or the Galahad 360 for $147. I'm wondering if the pump is actually better, more efficient, more durable? The performance doesn't seem to be better.
@@dennissmith1435 the Vadars that come with the basic are specific to the cooler to lower the cost. They have the same max speed (2200rpm) but are louder than the silent wings (33.5 vs 28.6) with a lower static pressure (2.89 vs 3.37) with a slightly higher airflow (77 vs 73). They also don't have any vibration dampening. The pump and coldplate on the silent loop was a big improvement over the pure loop, it would likely be on a par with the ek one.
The RGB Vadars that come with the elite are also not the same ones you'd buy separately, with only 1.92mmH2O, 66cfm at 31.5dB. the fans on the Galahad fair a little better at 2.6mmH2O, 69cfm at 32dB, but still fall short of the silent wings 3 in performance and noise.
What difference does this make in real world performance? Very little in all honesty. You'd probably be able to run the silent loop 2 a little quieter to achieve the same performance, but then they're all likely using slightly different rads with varying fin densities to take advantage of the fans performance curve. In a noise normalised test you might get a difference of a few degrees between them all, but on a CPU that's not going to make any tangible performance gains or losses like you might with the tetchy boost curves on GPUs.
They're all good coolers, they will all perform well. You can pick whichever suits your taste, build theme and budget, whether that's no RGB, a smidge of RGB, or ALL THE RGB. be quiet's light Wings fans which perform similarly on the silent loop 2 will eventually make their way onto an aio out the box, rather than only being sold separately and then we'll have another option, another level of RGB. More choice is always a good thing for consumers, keeps prices competitive, keeps manufacturers striving for improvements, keeps builds diverse.
I think something not said as much is that be quiet fans are much quieter than Lian Li and Artic at similar performance. While RGB still makes up some of that cost, the Silent Wings are honestly difficult to compare to. I have a o11 eco and tested Artic, Lian Li, and BeQuiet. Ultimately I prefer BeQuiet just on fan noise/performance. It’s also important to note that my pc is much closer to me on my setup and for other reasons, audio fidelity is important to my setup.
Worth moving from Noctua NH-D15s Chromax black to Be Quiet silent loop2 360 or Arctic Liquid freezer 280/360s? Cpu Ryzen 9 5900x. My temps howers between 55 to 79 under heavy workload. Gaming 65-70.Max I have seen is 81,6°C
Those temps are pretty decent, they'll probably lower a little with one of the AIO mentioned, but likely to be more of a benefit noise wise.
Yes, definitely. I have Arctic 360 with offset mount on my 5900x. Have never seen anything above 72C with PBO on in Cinebench tests. I used d15s with 2 fans before. AIO can hold temperature and stay quiet during any Ryzen's spikes. It's just better. I used a Fractal Celsius s36 and 28...returned due a pump whine. Also a case's airflow is important. Cheers 🍻
good vid
Thanks 🙂
Interesting You described Your issue with the cpu. I have Asus Strix B450-E gaming motherboard. With first bios that allowed to use Ryzen 9 5900x on B450s I had fantastic results. Every bios update since than cutt my performance down. Curently sitting on version 4301 with AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.1. My cinebench r20 score was 628/8450 without any OC. CPU-Z score was 685.4/9662. Now even with maxed stable PBO and curved optimizer I am unable to reach those numbers again. It could be a) Asus criple performance for purpose to let ppl to buy new mobo b) windows updates criple performance c)I started using AMD chipset drivers insted of Asus ones.
yeh it's completely bizzare. the rig had sat off, not being used between this and the K360 reviews. I keep the test bench off the internet to prevent windows upates which can meddle with performance and "may" affect the results. I think it might have had something to do with the MSI software needed for the K360 which I had to uninstall and reinstall several times when it would crash and completely cripple itself. embedding itself god knows where doing god knows what. has been really stable since though.
I just tested my 'be quiet' Silent Loop 2 360mm at 150 watts on my i9-12900k, on all of my 24 threads and my average temps were 66c Celsius.
I then tested just 16 threads as in the P-cores and my temps went even higher at 69c Celsius.
Room temp of 23c. Pump and fans at 100% for ten minutes before testing as well.
This seems very high to me. Has anyone else tried this?
I used Easy Tune, CPU-Z and MSI Afterburner.
Depends how you were testing. How long did you test for, did you immediately test just P cores after all cores when the coolant would be warm already, did you fix the clock speeds and power per core? If you've tested all core at 150w then just pcore at 150w still, those p cores are going to boost way higher and give a more intense concentrated heat source.
be quiet silent loop 2 360mm will it fit with optical drive in the be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev. 2 PC Case
They don't give that specifically on the website, but from the looks I'd say no.
Buyer beware: I've had some trouble with my SL280 since I bought it but now I didn't turn on the games PC for 3 months and the pump just died in that time, which is one of the common defects with these things. Of course it's out of warranty by now. I guess that will be the last product from BeQuiet I bought.
Same here, lasted 4 years and then puff, gone
Would you be willing to do a workshop tour?
I would, but my workshop is a battered old shed that's an absolute tip. 😅 Or do you mean where I film?
Seems a bit like my bank account, Andrew, - not a lot in it! That is a super case. Great vid, thank you. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thanks Patrick 😃
Silent Loop 2 280 will be enough for 10700K?
Yeh should be fine. a 280 is about the same area as a 360.
4:27 Looks like Be Quiet gave you your wish... Wink wink, nudge nudge! 😉😂
As if by magic! 😅
@@MakinComputers Exactly... And with an extra 2 inches at that! 🤣
@@wiibrewlover5923 I would claim credit, but we all know that'd be lie. I don't have an ego that needs stroking THAT much 🤣
@@MakinComputers... Sorry, what do you mean? I apologise if I sound a bit clueless... 😅
@@wiibrewlover5923 Some people with a big ego might claim credit for something they didn't do and boast about it so they can feel more important and boost their ego. This is sometime referred to as "stroking your ego". While I did say in my review of the Pure Loop that the splitter could do with being longer, given that the Silent Loop 2 had already been announced and was shipping when I did that review, it would be wrong of me to take credit. If I had a big ego that needed boosting or "stroking", I could have claimed credit, even knowing that would be a lie.
What was your Ambient Temperature?
Normally around 19-21C
Korg?
Yes! Someone without distracting facial hair, woo!
It's distracting when I haven't trimmed it in a while and my moustache absorbs whatever I'm drinking to sprinkle down my t-shirt post sip 🙄
I like the phrase, "Has succumbed to the tyranny of RGB". At least you still have a choice to choose one colour without flashing.
Nice Preview... I would not call this a review, maybe when you've had the gear running for a good while.
Thanks for sharing 👍
What details would you want from long term testing? It's not like a mouse or keyboard that you actively handle and use everyday. Typical gaming loads aren't as strenuous and this cooler would take them in its stride, most things that would affect performance in the short to mid term would be environmental like dust buildup and dried up TIM, both of which can be fixed. By the time any long term performance figures have any statistical significance, they're irrelevant because the cooler has been replaced and/or not on sale any more.
Beans
i gotta say i envy that beard
I had to drink a lot of Iron Bru to get it that ginger. 😅
what case is he using?
it's a be quiet! Silent base 802
I am glad my country is in EU so we don't have to pay 150 pounds for this :)
Yeh the price has gone down now, as it often does with PC gear.
Hey, some constructive criticism: You have done a great job testing, but you need to improve on presenting/editing. This should be a ~12 min video, not 18 min. Fewer "tech porn" of the fans at the beginning, shorten the comparison - key differents, thats it. You don't have to explain the testing methods that in depth, if they dont differ significantly from common testing methods.
Thanks for the feedback. The 'this Vs that' montage was just for a bit of a laugh and probably only 30-40 seconds longer than if I'd read out the specs and features of the fans, drawing a couple of comparisons to the other ones. If you haven't watch the hoonigan 'this Vs that' videos I can understand that you wouldn't really get it, but for those that have it'll be a nice little giggle.
I totally get your point on testing methods though and will likely keep it much briefer in future videos. Probably seemed like it went on longer because of explaining the problems with the test platform and why data in this review wouldn't match the previous 2 I'd done on the channel.
This should have been a 5min video. A lot of fluff and I barely could finish the video. (I normally watch 3 hours videos full of content so it is not the length but the amount of content)
@@Ferdinand208 "This should have been a 5 minute video" - Title of your sex tape.
Can i have it?
Heehee
Third
"The Silent Loop 2 isn't available in the USA or Canada"...
Yet Be Quiet still puts links up for numerous retailers/e-tailers on the product page for the Silent Loop 2 as if someone can. Can we give Be Quiet! a big, fat F for that little bit of misinformation as well?
Yeh that's not good. Get peoples hopes up, have them searching the retailer for it thinking "where tf is it?"
@@MakinComputers yeah was searching for it but I settled for PURE LOOP 360mm
@@rajnallal9438 pure loop isn't a bad cooler. Can always upgrade the fans for better performance at lower noise
i am using the same aio in the same case and i am VERY dissapointed with the noise. It is very loud on a 13700k even in idl i hear it quite well. Does not deerve to be called "quiet" at all imo. Maybe all Aios are like that idk its my first one. Awful Produkt.
I really like the bit-tech folk, but this video is just too long and there's no written article. Can someone give me the tl;dw?
It's very good, very quiet, worth the additional £30 over the pure loop.
50% fluff ? I'm out.
0% fluff, 100% beard
The video cuts with "This vs that"....yeah I will take anything but this video. Kudos for at least looking at the newest one.
Sorry what do you mean? Have you ever watched a Hoonigan 'This vs That' video? It's all short hard-cuts and if you're going to do an homage of something, better to do it right and true to form. Besides, it's just a little bit of fun instead of just rattling out a list specs 😀