If This Brings Success I Don't Care!
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- If This Brings Success I Don't Care! @TurkishLDN | Atalanta 0-0 Arsenal
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I can't lie, that was one of the worst games I've seen in a long time! Absolutely shocking!
Clean sheet !
@ramsesmedina9203 Yeah, but the amount of errors, bad finishes on either side, etc, you know? It wasn't entertaining to watch at all! They didn't look up for getting goals after a while in the second half! They seemed content with just defending, and that's extremely boring to watch!
@@thiagoteixeira6537 that's true, and I hadn't the words in mind to describe it, but that's very on point too, gotta do more w the attack
Jesus is a winger not a striker
Spurs game was more boring than thus one only that your mind was on goals that never came😂😂
Most arsenal fans have never kicked a ball and you can tell. A point on the road in cl is a +, Barcelona lost to Monaco,city tied to inter , and Atalanta ain’t no Sheffield united. Well done lads
Those 3 games are not same at all😂.
Ter stegan is garbage. Monaco good
Title winners
Europa winner vs 2nd place fc
😂
Without Ødegaard we have no creativity
How long will u cry creativity when martinelli and Jesus take matches as a joke
@@barugambireismailismail1688 I had an aneurysm reading that sentence
Even with Odegaard, we said that we lack creativity last season. We don't have players that can create individual moment that can lead to a goal. We rely heavily on passing safe
@@goonerzel8531 Jesus on the RW is creative.
@ParchedPinemarten it made sense though...
We are kidding ourselves if this keeps on happening. Saka looks like a fish out of water without Oedegaard . Martinelli again is not composed in front of goal. We are heavily reliant on Raya and our defence. Arteta has brought this upon himself . The transfer window was the key and we didn't take advantage..
That attack is absolutely abysmal we need a Striker and LW desperately
Stop pushing this striker agenda. What we lacked more than anything today was creativity. I'll give you the LW call cos Martinelli is atrocious, I think I actually want him out the club now
We should of signed gyokeres he was class against Lille the other night he would of been perfect wants to score his first instinct is to shoot and it seems like unless they’re through 1on1 our players are always looking to pass. Also he drifts to the left a lot which might help improve that side without a signing
@@VoiceOfReason579 naw we have no focal point down the middle Havertz is useless and Jesus needs to retire
So many coaches out there! Arteta should go on holiday so we can buy 3 strikers!
To late
Turkish subconsciously goes off what city does in the same match week..thi analysis is HEAVILY determined by city also drawing against inter.. and if you can’t see this you’re deluded
Yep
Absolutely.. They're the Spurs to City's Arsenal 😂😂 Always judging themselves using City's timeline 😂
@@_A7X i honestly dont understand what @bdawks4725 said, can you explain little bit detail
Difference is city actually win trophies😂, arsenal don't. Wouldn't be surprised if they won their 2nd ucl this season
@@James-bb7ix i dont understand what this guy @bdawks4725 said about turkish, can you explain little bit detail,
Martinelli brother it's time to learn chinese......I'm tired
@@Daniel_ss4 You mean Arabic 🤣😂
No, he'd fall behind in the pecking order at any of those Saudi teams. Hence off to Shanghai he plods.
@@aneedfortheory Fair enough 🤣
@@DarrenMartin-bw8ziChinese 💀
According to our fans you’re not allowed to criticise Martinelli tho bcos he scored 15 goals 2 years ago😂
We did same last season. Played on the handbrake to start the season. And in later stages went and did our thing. Only thing is our defence even more solid now. People need to relax. Season barely started and they already in that doomer mentality. After city we have some easier matches to get some goals and the international break.
I think we are sick of falling short year after year
If u want to be champion.. U have to be near perfection
So last year we won nothing and we’ve started the exact same as we did last year and you’re telling people not to panic? How many more years do we have to go trophyless before we are allowed to panic in your opinion? Is it 10 years? 20 years? Maybe even 50 years?
Last year arsenal beat spurs 3 0 in the first half, this season arsenal are more negative, can't just rely on set pieces, it won't work every time, like today
@@Maple_T29 so we panic when we haven't lost a game? Season is long my brother. If you panic after a draw you'll have some restless nights my brother.
How about wait till January and then you can start panicking?
Only thing I agree is that this season a trophy is a must and there are no excuses for that. But I am not panicking 5 games in a season.
Going foward we need to improve
Our goal keeper & defense is the best
We shall need it at The Etihad to keep Haakand and Foden quiet.
This is a very positive version of Turkish
Turkish : who evers playing well I love... Who evers playing bad.... I hate.
Rinse repeat
Turkish is at the stage 3 of coping with grief...... BARGAINING. 😮😵💫
We're actually one of the most boring teams to watch, especially as soon as we lost Odegard. Sad really.
And we need a striker as well as a back up for Odegard.
If you think that’s the problem you’re a dunce
I dun care, just get me result whatever circumstances
@makas01217
We can't seem to create any chances without Odegard, Martinelli is terrible, and we are overly reliant on Saka. So we need those new players
Okay is not enough. To win, we need to score goals and defend. That's it. If we can't do that there is no need to be in the competition
Agree.
Park the bus fc 😂 deserve F all
Saka Gigantical stinker and hooked
Martinelli done well then?
@JamesCM86 that ball still in the air? 😂
He needed to be rested for Sunday
Saka always stinking
Saka has contributed to every arsenal goal this season ,u want him always but that's football its not automatic like your car
Nwaneri can’t even get 10mins in a game where we needed creativity in midfield. Ok
Transfer request incoming this manager is a fool
If we say nil nil is good, we have very low standards
😂
Not good but not terrible
@@bugchallin lose odegard and 0-0 is not terrible 😂. Can't beat Atalanta without him? 😂
Turkish, I remember you making a similar speach like this last year before we dropped points in December. Due to a lack of attack There no time for Dubai this year, so we better fix up quick.
Turkish has a weak club mentality saying he doesn’t care about winning the champions league, what an absolute load of rubbish 🤨
Do you expect Arsenal can win major trophies when they play like this?
@@axmedjibriil8614it’s a competition, it’s one game.. did Real Madrid play great football when they won the champions league last season?🤨
He can't be serious.
You cant honestly believe we have the quality to win this competition@@_AshJ14
Strong clubs will fail to win the Champions League this season!
We are awful up top. This game was a complete dumpster fire to watch.
It won't bring succes, this is not the Mourinho era, Haaland having more goals than arsenal says it all
Odegaard is important but that narrative that we didn't win today because they lacked creativity is a bit far fetched.
I think we should try that 3-5-2 formation as well
Havertz in midfield doesn't work when will Arteta stop persisting with this Trossard would have been a better shout
Big NO, trossard is sloppy with passes. There is a game he played mid(he played badly). What about zinchenko since arteta won't play nwaneri
@Hubgaming27 even odegaard misplaces passes at times.trossard is by far the most underappreciated player at arsenal both by our fans and the manager. Last season he was our next prolific player after saka and all our fans keep saying he is best as a super sub. In the game against spurs, he created chances time and time again for martinelli which gets squandered but he's accused of not having much of an impact. The agenda against this guy is unreal. Zinny is the worst option because he's lightweight and squanders the ball easily. Trossard protects the ball better and is good in tight spaces which is why arteta always brought him on to see out games.
Soon as I saw the lineup I knew we weren’t winning today. Same system that cost us over Christmas last year and same system that cost us at home against Villa. When will Arteta learn? That poor summer transfer window our fan base was giving 7/10 is coming back to haunt us
@@eyeg6816 thought Trossard when he came on was decent dropping into the 6 position looking for the ball and turning trying to make something happen Havertz just can't do it besides he's more effective up top
@@Hubgaming27 was zinchenko in the squad or am I missing something?
Poor poor performance let’s be honest, we can’t compete in Europe
We need front line
It's a cursed club, I don't expect Arsenal to win major trophies, because we depend on only defence when you look at our attackers they look poor, we don't have dangerous attackers like Haaland, and Martinelli aren't what I was expecting, when you look back the last three games including this game we play poor performance, we playing like small clubs
Slow down abit mate, last season we started like this aswell. Looks like the instructions are to start slow conserve energy for second half of the season.
That was how u guys said all sort of trash beginning of last season then see went on to score more goals than any team
@@manzsgoinginexactly my point ..these Arsenal fans forget easily
@@koloni2862 What did we win last season? You deluded 🤡s keep harping on "most goals scored" BS when we lost the fkng league!!
How can you say your club is cursed? Do you know the meaning of the word at all? Good fans are always positive no matter the situation. PLEASE BE!
Is Arteta's new "control" process working to the detriment of the attack? There has to be a balance and Arteta has to get the attacking part correct.
Is that Ramsdale bottom left on that wall of Legends? Lol
having a powerful9striker upfront is
not only about scoring but also the art of creating space for his teammates
and move the team up faster
Bunch of hypocrites used to shout boring boring Chelsea but, now it’s your club it’s ok
Aahh, you strike the right tone. Thats how we are. We Cherry pick a lot.
You say this like we do this every week😂 I swear people just become stupid on purpose when it comes to Arsenal. Nah you’re just angry that Arsenal aren’t a soft team that goes to difficult teams and gets best 3-0, 4-1 anymore
Turkish has forgotten that Saka had the best chance very early on, with a free kick that needed an excellent save.
guys arsenal just signing world class goal keeper last season that is raya, guarantee that raya will become number 1 goal keeper for spain, if raya performance can carry us for win EPL or UCL then he deserved get statue btw that is the best save number 1 in football history since football exist, you will never see allison, courtois make save like raya
😂
What. 😂 Just say you don't watch others. Good save but best save ever? U delusionals
I couldn’t watch more than 20minutes of the game coz I couldn’t believe what I was seeing absolutely shocking performance
Robbie aka transfer rumor reader specialist rated this transfer an 8 out of ten... we just lost odegaard for a couple of matches amd zero creativity, robbie's backup is nwaneri, who is clearly not ready...
We should of went in for Gyokeres 🤷♂️
*should have
Absolutely right.
Not allowed to criticise the transfer window mate according to ur fans, it was an 8/10 window apparently
Bring Nwaneri...boy can link up play
Good man Turkish. Seeing bigger picture. Points well made
As toothless as a 90yr old. This team has no chance of winning trophies. Our better players will be off in search of trophies next year. And the vicious circle continues. The defence looks rock solid now, but we are so lethargic through midfield. No quickfire balls over the top or a big target man up front to make this system work.
Agree
No creatively in the midfield, Marvin is a surely miss for the midfield.
Nwaneri has to get a couple PL starts while Odegaard is out. He is our backup 10. Either he is ready to contribute or we were stupid not to get Eze.
I’m not disappointed at the draw. I’m disappointed that we got a draw and didn’t rest our key players.
Never for a second during the transfer window did I want a striker. All I was crying for was more creative midfielders and wingers. I saw how lacking we were in those positions. And I was right.
Ok with a draw? This guy is delusional
First game lad. Against a team who just won the Europa league. Something Arsenal couldn't do. Relax yourself and realise this is a decent result in a terrible game.
Sterling ain’t fully fit but il start him Sunday instead tbh.
Leave sterling alone he’s only just unpacked his bags! He’ll be good I just know it!
Don't expect much from Sterling.
Everyone criticizing this game; did they forget how insipid we were at Porto and Munich lol? I sat in the stands for both and never even got a semi
We really missed a trick with lookman, looked far better than any of our front three
its so depressing for people supporting that in this state where 1 player can mean the difference of every possible winning run, and you are not calling this out
I was supporting Arsenal before that game FIFA. I actually think our current fans think our players can run, shoot, and play the way their thumbs dictate players should do. It's a few games into the season, there is a LOT of football to play. Every game can't be 6 nil against a team you think you should beat.
Mandem are saying Martinelli is McTominay playing on the wing and it’s hard to argue against it. Boy’s been stinking it up since last season. Might be time to change settings. Cauliflower stays picking up aura points from the bench.
Transfer window went from nico williams & Isaak to sterling. Owners need to be held accountable, if we don't win the league we crash out and revolt at the emirates
Defence used to be the issue not attack! Now its the complete opposite! We needed to sign a striker and it is showing. Does anyone think we would have scored two if that pen went in?
No chance!!
And what the hell is wrong with Martinelli?!
We are majorly short of depth. Crazy decision selling eddie and ESR. We needed to keep one at least.
Arsenal that plays a low block is not easy to get used to. But if this wins trophies it's fine. Winning this way worked for Jose Mourinho
These guys live by City's reality..If City had won they'd be fuming but City drew so they're alright with this 😂 Ooh this Arsenal fans, they're the Spurs to City's Arsenal 😂 always thinking about City 😂
ikr 😂
What difference does it make if city won, draw or lost in the champions league to Arsenal?
The way our brain works
What reality do you live in, sitting in bed trolling 24 hours a day. Sad dude.
Today’s game against Atalanta was probably one of the most boring Arsenal have played so far. While the defense was solid, the attack was a disaster. I’m not sure how Arteta plans to fix the offensive side so the team can start scoring more goals. Where’s the Arsenal from two seasons ago, scoring more than two goals per game? This season’s team seems too laid back and lacking that punch to get goals. Again, the defense is good, which is important, but if we’re not scoring, criticism from the fans will start to roll in.
Atalanta is a solid team, but they’re not better than Arsenal. Yet, we gave them too many chances, and now they can walk away feeling good about their performance, which isn’t acceptable. Yes, we don’t want to concede, but we also need to focus on finding the back of the net.
Saka’s performance was off today, likely due to his injury from last weekend, but I believe he’ll recover in time for the next game against Man City. It’s also clear the team misses Martin Ødegaard, and Rice didn’t have the best game either. Arteta has some work to do to make the necessary changes.
Shoutout to Raya for saving the day, and Calafiori and Trossard for making some impact in the second half. With a big game against mighty Man City coming up, we’ll need all the luck and the best performance possible. It won’t be easy, but I think we can scramble for a draw, which would be a good result for Arsenal. Good luck to the team!
Defence elite. Attack looks blunt
Martinelli only guy I see trying 100% to make things happen in the front line
Nwaneri needs to start next champion's league game of Odegaard still out.
We should have gone big in the window with adding to the front line
Last good performance by arsenal was Feb 11 2024 absolutely shocking today.
What pissed me of is arteta taking to long to subs some players on give them more time to do something
martinelli Needs to hire a striking coach
has it ever occurred to these guys that they are practicing a system that will allow arsenal to get a good result in the hardest game of the season against city away
If Newcastle make (probably will) top 4 they ain't selling isak . Nico might move to barca 😂
Need two creative cms modric and kroos esq but these owners won’t invest. Barella + Odegard would be lethal
Trossard should be playing in the midfield.
Anyway a good point
He can't even start a good 90m but midfield 😂
Lookman didn’t get a lookin lol 😂 everybody said he’s epic!! He was quiet 🤫 our defence is outstanding!!! Just need to fire some goals in!
Just?
Its odd that some Arsenal fans are okay with coming second and just never winning anything.
Buy a striker. One that can shoot on sight without needing to be set up with a quality assist.
Pressure is on for Martinelli, if he doesn't perform this season he's out the door and Edu should go big either Nico, Vini, or Leao.
😂 Leao is doing nothing fantastic for AC Millano and Portugal. He has declined. Milan also lost to Liverpool by 0- 3
@@emiade4812 You right, you right lol Either way Arsenal need a world class LW!
Nwaneri or Saka in the 10 they're most gifted on the ball & can pick the pass to KILL
Why not nwaneri we all saw what he could do when he came on at whiteheart Lane, the boy is a good midfielder ,, Ateta are just being cautious for no reason give him chance show case his talent.
Partey was giving Inter Miami 😭
Atalanta wasn't much of a problem in attack because of Arsenals defense. Also set up like that because of no odegaard for control in the middle, havertz having to play there as a replacement and a very good Atalanta m2m press causing Arsenal to go direct. Stop talking about this transfer window that has gone.
Also need to stop with this if "if brings success.." which we would only know at the end of the season. Judge it on the process now and if you think if you think it's the best available tactic to get results currently. Otherwise, whats the point of giving an assessment on anything
I agree with the title. Problem is though, I don't think it's going to lead to success.
Draws don’t bring success sunshine. Go look at your last two seasons
We are not offering anything upfront, defence superb but we need to offer a threat against city
At the moment we have to adapt for the time being and there are opportunities for players to really show what they can do.......just take it and move on.
City is another extreme and we have to step up again...there is no hiding place for any of the players.
Right now our defence is keeping us afloat but it is tiny margins and regardless, we should be taking our opportunities when they come....
Wingers & striker
& 1 or 2 midfielder
How can safe, defensive, robotic, predictable-pass to saka football bring success?
If you notice City players eat at least 3 different types of sandwiches all a different type too on whole wheat bread if our players added more nutrition to our players diet you'd see the difference believe me
Pep replaced Ronaldinho with an academy prospect in Messi, Is Arteta afraid of youths . We lack creativity .
Good point.
I mean, Messi? Do we have a Messi in the youth team?
@@YorkshireTracklistsMessi didn't start as the best player in the world 😂
i know atalanta beat leverkusen and loserpool last season but we should win this game against atalanta if martinelli has great 1 vs 1 finishing skill against goal keeper
In the words of Nigel Boring Boring
They need to go back to Dubai and find their footing like they did last season
Have we not come to realise that Arsenal always play badly before a tough EPL game?
With Odegaard out for few months and no back up for him bought in the summer we'll be lucky to make top 4 this season. It looks like Nwaneri is the new ESR...Not trusted by Arteta and will keep the bench warm. Jesus and Martinelli were abysmal and Saka was well below par. Partay was a disaster giving away a penalty and seriously under performing. Havertz in midfield isn't anywhere near as good as when he is the striker. Arteta's team selection was, in my opinion poor. Why didn't he pick Calafiori and Jorginho to start , with their knowledge and experience of Italian football? The performance improved significantly when they were finally brought on...
I think this was one of Arsenal's worst performances in years and only Raya's heroics and the back 4 prevented us losing. We were extremely lucky to get a draw and Atalanta just about deserved to win.
Matnelli will be the one to score against city
Arteta is obviously going to park the bus v City like last season but frankly with all their best players fit this year, if we try that, they'll rip us a new one. City are not Spuds or Atalanta they have players who can and will destroy us...especially should Arteta persist with his 'desperate' need to put Havertz in midfield
Why you fallen for less Turkish 😢. You know deeply this is crap football and we demand better.
He doesn't want to say.
I'm very impatient to see the two top striker of arteta 😤
Havertz...top shotta
Atalanta have been aweful so far this season. They’ve lost most of their players to injuries and transfers. Stop justifying a draw against them. It just tells me y’all are a mediocre. Inter parked the bus against City yet City had the better attempts and hard luck scoring
When next week come, its the same old Assenal = men vs boys again😂😂😂, Assenal wont dare to play open against City😂😂
Commenta : Delusional fans wants to buy the title 😂
Thank God i didnt watch the match. Reading comments has already given me clue as to what transpired
I should say me too
If you didn't watch the match then we don't need you to support the club anyway. We don't need plastics from other continents who don't even bother to watch but yap online
When an English team plays a European team away you have to expect simulation to the hilt...it makes any matchup pure garbage..
Referee has to let play go on despite screaming and acting...VAR should go both ways..
Raya proves us Long man
Draw away against Atalanta is good now? 😂 What about the away win record. "Give us Madrid" trophy.
Arsenal and success in Europe don't mix pal. We all know this.
Tell them.
Martinelli had 2 good chances and found himself off balance on both talking of standing up 😢. O love the lad's attitude and work rate but he is so far off it. Get him to a great sports psychologist before a promising career goes down the toilet. Jesus can sit in the waiting room whike he is in. We look like a side that has spent 15 million on attacking players on average last 5 years
Martinelli should be benched
Stop talk foolishness
Laurie, is Turkish “your boy” though?
See... defensively, Martinelli is better ...in transition I believe Sterling is better...its a huge game..I'll start martinelli
SEND ARTETA OUR MESSAGE PLEASE.. BENCH MARTINELLI OR SELL THAT KIDS HAD ACT LIKE SUPERSTAR ‼️‼️ ZERO EFFORT & ZERO IMPACT