Those who follow Olavos ideas normally says that he's right. It's a real shame that none of his books are translated exc for some few articles in the internet, I would really like to know what you people would say about Garden of Aflictions (a book about politics and Epicure) the theory of the four discourses based on Aristotle
Really? Carvalho's claims are absurd. He is obsessed with this conspiracy theory of global capitalist elites working to build socialism. He's either totally illiterate in political sciences, not even having the most basic understanding of the concepts he's talking about, or he is genuinely convinced that all capitalist elites are suicidal.
@@boshi9 Hmm, George soros would like a word with you, every time he donates is for a left, last time it's was for the BLM moviment. Every single big company now is doing prides month, not because they are friends with the gay but simply to virtual sign. Amazon already said that they are vote for yes in case the riches pay more taxes. Facebook is now basically a fact checking agency for the left. Don't forget the "Wolfes of Wall Street" claiming for the state regulation when a bunch of reddit people did the same thing they normally do All the things that I listed falls in the metacapitalist category, which are people who became too rich and don't want capitalism anymore but socialism. How is this claims absurd? Isn't it exactly what Carvalho's is saying about the elites wanting socialism
@@WolfGamers100 None of that is socialist, though. Socialism treats the Proletariat as its subject, but Western Post-War Liberalism has instead adopted identity politics. Those companies might have Pride events, but those events are used to reinforce capitalist control over the means of production.
Also, on the adoption of orphans, it is because America allows their people to adopt children without having ever met them. As in, when I lived in Uganda, we met Americans who chose their "sons and daughters" from a catalogue. This has now changed since this debate (2016 to be exact). But Americans have laws that allow them to adopt outside their borders much easier. This is not always a good thing. Selling children in Uganda is a big business. Possibly not the tact de Carvalho was going for, but it reminds us that not all charity is for the betterment of the other.
Carvalho is a smart cookie, but his perspective feels almost like a relic of post-9/11 neo-conservatism. For example, GAE (Global American Empire) is definitely statist and interventionist, but only from its own perspective. From the perspective of other civilization-systems, it's practically libertarian. Also, what the hell makes the Syndicate 'socialist'? What part of their plan comports with socialism in any implementation?
Feels like it, because it is. This guy was one of the main figures responsible for bringing American political discourse into Brazil and injecting into Brazilian politics. Before 2016 we hardly had a distinction of left and right here, like there is in the US with republicans and democrats. That's to say, he's one of the main agents behind the spread of liberal ideology in Brazil, and the muddying of political discourse; despite his self-proclaimed hatred for "ideologues", he's nothing more than one himself, often using propaganda tactics instead of real argumentative philosophy. Just take a look at the comments in this video to see how many Brazilians follow him like a cult leader.
Thank god Olavo de Carvalho have written many books, so 10-20 yrs in the future, people can go back and realize how much knowledge he had to share. He's so far ahead that is almost impossible to see things as clear as he does. This is the guy who brought up many things to surface, many things we see happening nowadays, he has been talking about years and even decades ago.
I don't think this is off-topic, but you may think it is. In this discussion of political theory -- and I don't see how you could categorize 'geopolitics' as anything other than political theory, I notice that A. Dugin is a supporter of 'land power vs. sea power' as a meaning full posture; in your Talk #15, in the survey therein of political theory, that feature never came up. That fact strengthens my view that your concern there (in Talk #15) was philosophy more than political theory.
he is a classic conservative, but the enthusiasm for american culture is not the base of his studies and all his material, in this aspect Dugin is wrong by far.
@@LM-nh5of he said in a live that he isn't a conservative, but created a conservative movimente because thinked that he had to create a right moviment because Brazil went too much to the left and in an occasion, he said that "oh, now we are the revolutionaries", like by meaning that now is a revolutionari e moviment against the establishment. In fact he doesn't have a ideology, but some position to each circumstance. He's main political influence is from Eric Voegelin and Aristotle
Olavo de Carvalho has a quality that he has achieved with time and the maturation of his person, he is biodegradable and with the noblest act of his life he already begins to enrich the soil.
I won't make it to part 3 of this. Clearly Carvalho is out of his weight class. The side that resorts to amateur psychology, personal attacks and biographical notes, Is always the loser who can't engage with the ideas.
He is. And his political discourse is not even a fraction of the damage he's done. The lengths he went through to lie about and denigrate the image of René Guénon and the Traditionalists in Brazil is nothing short of criminal.
Probably not better for Dugin. I think he's a fan of radical traditionalism rather than nationalism ('3rd theory'), though I guess he sees Arab Nationalism as 'national-bolshevik'.
I didn't know who Olavo de Carvalho was, and was a fan of Dugin. I have to say I was completely convinced by Carvalho's argument.
carvallo is a moron and evil man
Those who follow Olavos ideas normally says that he's right.
It's a real shame that none of his books are translated exc for some few articles in the internet,
I would really like to know what you people would say about Garden of Aflictions (a book about politics and Epicure) the theory of the four discourses based on Aristotle
Really? Carvalho's claims are absurd. He is obsessed with this conspiracy theory of global capitalist elites working to build socialism. He's either totally illiterate in political sciences, not even having the most basic understanding of the concepts he's talking about, or he is genuinely convinced that all capitalist elites are suicidal.
@@boshi9
Hmm, George soros would like a word with you, every time he donates is for a left, last time it's was for the BLM moviment.
Every single big company now is doing prides month, not because they are friends with the gay but simply to virtual sign.
Amazon already said that they are vote for yes in case the riches pay more taxes.
Facebook is now basically a fact checking agency for the left.
Don't forget the "Wolfes of Wall Street" claiming for the state regulation when a bunch of reddit people did the same thing they normally do
All the things that I listed falls in the metacapitalist category, which are people who became too rich and don't want capitalism anymore but socialism.
How is this claims absurd? Isn't it exactly what Carvalho's is saying about the elites wanting socialism
@@WolfGamers100 None of that is socialist, though.
Socialism treats the Proletariat as its subject, but Western Post-War Liberalism has instead adopted identity politics. Those companies might have Pride events, but those events are used to reinforce capitalist control over the means of production.
this debate is a truly masterpiece, thanks for sharing this video!
These are great - Thanks!
Olavo is a Brazilian masterpiece of the century
Also, on the adoption of orphans, it is because America allows their people to adopt children without having ever met them. As in, when I lived in Uganda, we met Americans who chose their "sons and daughters" from a catalogue. This has now changed since this debate (2016 to be exact). But Americans have laws that allow them to adopt outside their borders much easier. This is not always a good thing. Selling children in Uganda is a big business. Possibly not the tact de Carvalho was going for, but it reminds us that not all charity is for the betterment of the other.
Carvalho is a smart cookie, but his perspective feels almost like a relic of post-9/11 neo-conservatism.
For example, GAE (Global American Empire) is definitely statist and interventionist, but only from its own perspective. From the perspective of other civilization-systems, it's practically libertarian.
Also, what the hell makes the Syndicate 'socialist'? What part of their plan comports with socialism in any implementation?
Feels like it, because it is. This guy was one of the main figures responsible for bringing American political discourse into Brazil and injecting into Brazilian politics. Before 2016 we hardly had a distinction of left and right here, like there is in the US with republicans and democrats. That's to say, he's one of the main agents behind the spread of liberal ideology in Brazil, and the muddying of political discourse; despite his self-proclaimed hatred for "ideologues", he's nothing more than one himself, often using propaganda tactics instead of real argumentative philosophy. Just take a look at the comments in this video to see how many Brazilians follow him like a cult leader.
Olavo de Carvalho is the best.
The man is a legend
@@sophiashakti5638Smooth....
But weak, I bet you can do better than that.
Thank god Olavo de Carvalho have written many books, so 10-20 yrs in the future, people can go back and realize how much knowledge he had to share. He's so far ahead that is almost impossible to see things as clear as he does. This is the guy who brought up many things to surface, many things we see happening nowadays, he has been talking about years and even decades ago.
Love the little baby in the background
I don't think this is off-topic, but you may think it is. In this discussion of political theory -- and I don't see how you could categorize 'geopolitics' as anything other than political theory, I notice that A. Dugin is a supporter of 'land power vs. sea power' as a meaning full posture; in your Talk #15, in the survey therein of political theory, that feature never came up. That fact strengthens my view that your concern there (in Talk #15) was philosophy more than political theory.
The Jewish nation is the epitome of goodness indeed
The man is an actual clown.
where is the full video between both?
There's no video. It was a written debate.
Thanks @@servus_incognitus
Olavo de Carvalho is the best professor ever .
olavo is greatly superior
Olavo brougth the real philosphy back to Brazil.
De Carvalho is beeing presented as a Neocon here.
he is a classic conservative, but the enthusiasm for american culture is not the base of his studies and all his material, in this aspect Dugin is wrong by far.
It's because he is, when it comes to politics, nothing other than that.
@@LM-nh5of he said in a live that he isn't a conservative, but created a conservative movimente because thinked that he had to create a right moviment because Brazil went too much to the left and in an occasion, he said that "oh, now we are the revolutionaries", like by meaning that now is a revolutionari e moviment against the establishment. In fact he doesn't have a ideology, but some position to each circumstance. He's main political influence is from Eric Voegelin and Aristotle
Best comments are from the child in the background
A reminder of what's most important
@@millerman totally true. I have a 4 year old son myself 🙂
All the best for you and your family
Olavo e intelectual homem de fibra e humano
Olavo de Carvalho has a quality that he has achieved with time and the maturation of his person, he is biodegradable and with the noblest act of his life he already begins to enrich the soil.
I won't make it to part 3 of this. Clearly Carvalho is out of his weight class. The side that resorts to amateur psychology, personal attacks and biographical notes, Is always the loser who can't engage with the ideas.
Carvalho is a liar
So prove it... he is wrong about what??
@@oliverkleim5152 About repeating neocon classical liberal ideology which is exactly what Dugin criticizes
He is. And his political discourse is not even a fraction of the damage he's done. The lengths he went through to lie about and denigrate the image of René Guénon and the Traditionalists in Brazil is nothing short of criminal.
Isn’t it better for Russia and China to align with Arab Nationalist movement that’s just been rejuvenated by the Syrian Civil war’s outcome.
It is.
Probably not better for Dugin. I think he's a fan of radical traditionalism rather than nationalism ('3rd theory'), though I guess he sees Arab Nationalism as 'national-bolshevik'.