Love or hate my guy ohmyveenus.. He is literally the backbone for all Blacklist achievements.. U can say that a certain player is the best roamer currently but if u are talking about all time.. As Mirko said..Veenus is the greatest roamer of all time period
@@joserijalkasyasyaf9723 were not just talking about technical abilities were talking being a leader as a whole. since veenus left (and wise) blcklist havent won shit since
Veenus just knows Baloy's picks, done forget they are both former teammates back in Onic PH, they know each other very well and their playstyles too lol
As you can see, it's not only Baloy's pick that he predicted. But also the other player's pick. Don't tell me Vee also have known them and have teammates with them as well hence the right prediction?
veenus just understands the drafting phase more deeper than most of us as she was the one who's like the team captain of blacklist when they were still playing
@@ashton2355 Bonchan aint sh*t without Vee... Have you seen their draft during a season where Veewise was taking a rest and their jungler that time is kevier? 🤣🤣🤣 They literally didn't qualify for playoffs that time 🤣🤣
@@nikkamadelo5350Nung MSC 2023, natalo sila against ONIC ID kasi hindi pinasali si Vee sa drafting, sabi ng coaches "let us do our job" ayun Wanwan 1st pick against Fanny. Hindi sinisi ni Vee ung mga coaches, pero sinabi lng nya un sa live.
Not fan of vewise pero humanga ako sakanila Ang galing nila mag analyst at mag draft deserve nila maging headocach at assistant coach kapag nag retire na sila
Veewise coach? Parang hindi worth it kahit mag lock na kamay ni vee feeling ko sobrang kaylangan padin sya maging player dahil sobrang talino mag shotcall nyan, mas gugustuhin ko pang makakampi ng matalino makipag clash kesa sa magaling mag tank.
matanda na si vee 28years old na yun eh darating din naman lahat ng player sa pag retiro eh hindi naman habang buhay player ka ng mpl ph kahit 60yearsold na si vee paglalaroin mo pa rin ng tank jungle walang ganun😆
@@Vre77521 hindi ganon yung meaning ko, pero kasi parang wala akong nakikitang dahilan para hindi maging player si vee kasi iba mag captain yan, isipin mo may coach, analyst, veteran experience, sya lga ng isang player na meron nyang lahat. Iba ang team kapag may kakampi kang vee ayun lg point ko pero syempre iba padin kapag 60 yr old na si vee malamang mas gugustuhin nalang nyan mag kape maghapoN.
@@mynaevisweluvyah1301di ako fan nitong si vee pero napakabihira nyang playing coach. Isipin mo nalang epekto sa utak nyan naglalaro mana nag analysts kapa, ang tinde non. Ang taas ng IQ
Ito yong tera2x sa echo ...na nabaliw bkit natalo sa bl..d na nka to log kaka isip..lagi nya titingnan oli laro kaso talo parin eh..Ayan na Yan sha.naponta dto.. rplyan nyolng para d msktan
Bibihira yang ganyang pro player malalim yung pang unawa sa game. Ibang pro player laro lang basta may analyst at coach sa team hayahay na buhay. execution na lang sa player.
In a normal rank game yeah there's an argument but within the pro scene, Mathilda and ixia could easily be burst by the opposing mage and jungler specifically in this patch where tank junglers were the meta, a fred or akai could easily disrupt Mathilda and ixia's positioning.
Nova has high damage, good for finding enemies on bushes, good for wave clearing and slowing down waves for defending, ONIC gets wins because of their synergy and everyone in the team is mechanically gifted.
Yeah MSC Champion didn't Nova to win the championship. Only clowns prioritise Nova as midlane lol 0 cc just burst damage and widens map might as well stay as roamer and I'm immortal btw lol riders
Not 100% sure either but as a player with 7-8 years of experience I would say rafa could heal off lylia poke damage as she is not a burst type mage also rafa could make her team move fast which could help them juke or straight up run always from lylia 2nd skill which is major source of lylia damage I would say that alone hard counter her also if lylia try to run away using black shoes rafa could speed up her team and slow lylia down.
If you can determine onic's draft you are superb. Actually geek fam draft is so monotonous. If faramis and baxia were banned, they would be losed by onic so easily 😂😂😂 like game 1 and 2. Onic just let them using hero power and find the appropriate counter. Why I 100% sure that because onic prepared for the clothes of their victory😂😂😂😂 before they had played the final 🎉🎉🎉🎉
As if you an epic ranker would understand high points level game play nor World Champion drafts. Just so you know Ixia is not even 1st choice in Immortal, it is easy take her out.
@@sheesh...1038 it's the hero not the team, team just make Ixia to use her 100% power, if u say team is good, not hero, u can try to pick LAYLA as a threat in a international tournament, Ixia really good if u know how to use even in solo ranked or team ranked but first thing is learn to use it wisely It's like wanwan somebody says she is not a threat, but somebody can use her to become a big threat to carry the whole team
@@jimmylim3462Ixia is not a threat. I can always kill her easily. Vee was right. Any mm with a great Mathilda teammate that babies them would be scary.
who tf is that guy behind veenus who is more talkative and has the right to ride with veenus' pick?? it should've just wise and veenus in there rathehr than those two wannabe's
It seems that hindi mo kilala si Tori. Friends nila Vee at Wise si Tori since Onic days dahil part ng Onic din si Tori before, Caster ng MLBB ang trabaho niya, at ngayon nasa NXPE na siya. Yes, hindi siya pro player, pero knows the game. Hindi siya magiging Caster ng MLBB kung wala siyang knowledge sa laro. Kung naiingayan ka kay Tori, ganyan talaga siya, most especially pag kasama niya ang VeeWise.
@@blacklistagent2314 sa totoo lang maingay talaga sya. nanonood ako ng re-streams ni vee for analysis, pero kairita si tori. gusto ko sya nung nag ca cast sya dun sa pba esports kasi may alam nga naman talaga sya, kaya lang pag kasama nya si vee, medyo wala syang input
@@lokilovessif kaya nga eh parang gusto nya mang lamang kay vee. Feeling magaling Mag ML ang puta . Pwedi naman si vee nalang kasi may napatuyanan na . Sapaw ng sapaw kala mo talaga may napatunayan
@@blacklistagent2314 pwedi naman naman sya mag salita di yung every salita ni vee sasapaw sya or pinangungunahan nya mag predict . Kala mo talaga may napatunayan na sa MLBB pro scene . Wala syang karapatan pangunahan or sapawan ang maraming achievements sa mlbb pro scene.
Baloy messaging Venus and asking advise regarding the healer/ support heroes. Not surprised that Venus can predict Geek draft.
Best comment so far 🖤
Venus sending Baloy pick via Bluetooth 😂
Infrared po😂😅
This made me laugh so hard😂
Love or hate my guy ohmyveenus.. He is literally the backbone for all Blacklist achievements.. U can say that a certain player is the best roamer currently but if u are talking about all time.. As Mirko said..Veenus is the greatest roamer of all time period
Hmmm, debatable i guess kiboy is a good match up
@@joserijalkasyasyaf9723 Kiboy with what?? Hahahahaha no world championship
Wdym my boy she's a girl
@@joserijalkasyasyaf9723 were not just talking about technical abilities were talking being a leader as a whole. since veenus left (and wise) blcklist havent won shit since
@@joserijalkasyasyaf9723
Yawi is even better than Kiboy and here you are trying to put Kiboy on the level of Venus? lol.
Veenus just knows Baloy's picks, done forget they are both former teammates back in Onic PH, they know each other very well and their playstyles too lol
Hahaha lol .. very so so long time ago. Wft. 😂😂😂😂
As you can see, it's not only Baloy's pick that he predicted. But also the other player's pick. Don't tell me Vee also have known them and have teammates with them as well hence the right prediction?
veenus just understands the drafting phase more deeper than most of us as she was the one who's like the team captain of blacklist when they were still playing
player ini memang berkelas dan legend...salam dri indonesia🇲🇨 🤝🇵🇭
.... VEENUS is original analyst of onic ph (2019)🤭😂😜 and then now baloy also become analyst of GEEKFAM!😅
correct kase noong magkakampi si vee at baloy paheras na sila shoutcaller
since dreamhigh days
@@apengcruz5861shotcaller
@@apengcruz5861 malakas siguro yung sigaw ng dalawa di na magkarinigan sa comms hahaha
So we've been praising the wrong person for blacklist's genius drafts this whole time? Lol
Tulongan talaga Sila pero idadaan talaga kay vee if approve sakanya picking Ng hero NILA.ganeern
@@nikkamadelo5350nope. S12 playoffs, purely MTB and DexStar drafts doon based on his interview with Tryke
Venus is usually the 2nd opinion on bon Chans drafts (based on their mic checks)
@@ashton2355 Bonchan aint sh*t without Vee... Have you seen their draft during a season where Veewise was taking a rest and their jungler that time is kevier? 🤣🤣🤣 They literally didn't qualify for playoffs that time 🤣🤣
@@nikkamadelo5350Nung MSC 2023, natalo sila against ONIC ID kasi hindi pinasali si Vee sa drafting, sabi ng coaches "let us do our job" ayun Wanwan 1st pick against Fanny. Hindi sinisi ni Vee ung mga coaches, pero sinabi lng nya un sa live.
I usually draft for my team too, that's the reason we always lose ❤
💀
Not fan of vewise
pero humanga ako sakanila
Ang galing nila mag analyst at mag draft deserve nila maging headocach at assistant coach kapag nag retire na sila
Bat "SILA" parin term nyo? 🤣🤣 Tas Wise as a coach/analyst? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 🤑🤑🤑... Si Vee pwedeng pwede... pero si Wise? HAHAHAHAHA 🤣🤣
pwede yan mag coach si wise turoan niya paano tamang rotation ng junglers tsaka balita ko midlaner din yan si wise dati kaya may maitutulong yan
Veewise coach? Parang hindi worth it kahit mag lock na kamay ni vee feeling ko sobrang kaylangan padin sya maging player dahil sobrang talino mag shotcall nyan, mas gugustuhin ko pang makakampi ng matalino makipag clash kesa sa magaling mag tank.
matanda na si vee 28years old na yun eh darating din naman lahat ng player sa pag retiro eh hindi naman habang buhay player ka ng mpl ph kahit 60yearsold na si vee paglalaroin mo pa rin ng tank jungle walang ganun😆
@@Vre77521 hindi ganon yung meaning ko, pero kasi parang wala akong nakikitang dahilan para hindi maging player si vee kasi iba mag captain yan, isipin mo may coach, analyst, veteran experience, sya lga ng isang player na meron nyang lahat. Iba ang team kapag may kakampi kang vee ayun lg point ko pero syempre iba padin kapag 60 yr old na si vee malamang mas gugustuhin nalang nyan mag kape maghapoN.
Natawa ako sapagsabi ni vee ni baloy😂😂
Venus is the real lagend
kaya lagi siyang nagpapahinga dahil playing coach siya, isipin mo dalawa trabaho mo, kaya madali siya madrain.
Lalo na onic s4, kakadebut lang nila as a pro, literal na dya coach, captain, at analayst nun eh tapos nakaabot sa finals
@@mynaevisweluvyah1301di ako fan nitong si vee pero napakabihira nyang playing coach. Isipin mo nalang epekto sa utak nyan naglalaro mana nag analysts kapa, ang tinde non. Ang taas ng IQ
That's Why She Called The Captain Of Blacklist 😊 Future Coach Natooo
Sir veenus is a good player and analyst
natawa ako sa sir
good joker like clown
Ito yong tera2x sa echo ...na nabaliw bkit natalo sa bl..d na nka to log kaka isip..lagi nya titingnan oli laro kaso talo parin eh..Ayan na Yan sha.naponta dto.. rplyan nyolng para d msktan
@@jhorspalalon6796HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAH ganyam yan sila
and you're good at being palamunin out there
Sana mag coach si veenus sa black list
While in Indognesia no local analyst can do this. lol!
They are so amazed by Wolf doing common things for PH analysts. lol!
Sombonggg
lol, ID have KB for that
Wolf is considered a professional analyst anyway, not a shoutcaster.
@@ouro2164 afaik, KB was an analyst for Dota before joining MLBB, so he has experience for that.
@@FreaknFrets nd the question is that, WHO TF is that KB?? 🤣🤣 While EVERYONE IN THE WORLD that PLAYS MLBB, KNOWS WHO THE GOAT WOLF is 🤣🤣
feeling ko nanood sila sa live nila Vee. HAHAHAHAHA.
Pwede pero delay na kasi ang live nyan pag na broadcast.
Saang live yan?
Bibihira yang ganyang pro player malalim yung pang unawa sa game. Ibang pro player laro lang basta may analyst at coach sa team hayahay na buhay. execution na lang sa player.
Pano
Veenus is a veteran player❤❤❤❤
Grabe Vee galing
Ixia is not a threat, meanwhile ixia mathilda combo is so op
Like I said it depends on the skill of the players if your draft is good or bad. Micro/macro > draft
Ixis mathilda combo can only work if the opponent is losing the teamfight. It's not op, it's situational
In a normal rank game yeah there's an argument but within the pro scene, Mathilda and ixia could easily be burst by the opposing mage and jungler specifically in this patch where tank junglers were the meta, a fred or akai could easily disrupt Mathilda and ixia's positioning.
Who would want useless Nova as midlaner? Onic knows best lol. Novaria is better as a roamer than midlane
Lol. Epic
Try hard
Tell us that you are epic without telling us that you are epic.
Nova has high damage, good for finding enemies on bushes, good for wave clearing and slowing down waves for defending, ONIC gets wins because of their synergy and everyone in the team is mechanically gifted.
Yeah MSC Champion didn't Nova to win the championship. Only clowns prioritise Nova as midlane lol 0 cc just burst damage and widens map might as well stay as roamer and I'm immortal btw lol riders
can anyone explain how does rafa hard counter lylia?
dang, can someone explain all the counters mentioned in the video?😂
Rafa has slow immunity and gives speed buff so they can get away from lylia easily
@@user-eh8yo5tg9qwell said
Epic ??? Use ur brain
Thats very basic bro , rafa speed boost counters lylia slow so they can run from those attack
galing talaga sa future si mamsh 😂
Vee the face of mlbb the queen 🐐
Queen ka jan walang bayot na reyna sa history tanga
Ok thank you cuz I was unsure
NI CHANNEL BELOM NNTN ANALIS ADE SANG ANALIS M1 PAS FINAL KEMARIN KEKNYA 🤣
Tawang tawa ako sa... BALOYYYYY!!!! 👉😠👈
galing ni vee
Why does rafaela counters lylia?
Not 100% sure either but as a player with 7-8 years of experience I would say rafa could heal off lylia poke damage as she is not a burst type mage also rafa could make her team move fast which could help them juke or straight up run always from lylia 2nd skill which is major source of lylia damage I would say that alone hard counter her also if lylia try to run away using black shoes rafa could speed up her team and slow lylia down.
Peenus peenus peenus peenus
If you can determine onic's draft you are superb. Actually geek fam draft is so monotonous. If faramis and baxia were banned, they would be losed by onic so easily 😂😂😂 like game 1 and 2. Onic just let them using hero power and find the appropriate counter. Why I 100% sure that because onic prepared for the clothes of their victory😂😂😂😂 before they had played the final 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Grabe ba 🧠💪😮
Kaya nakakatakot aurora ngaun. Sobrang daming utak sa team nila.
Ixia is not the threat 😂 they don't know how to use Ixia will be think like that
As if you an epic ranker would understand high points level game play nor World Champion drafts. Just so you know Ixia is not even 1st choice in Immortal, it is easy take her out.
@@giantnoodle2280 ya, but that's the situation only pick Ixia, with a good team and good combo, Ixia is crazy, ONIC PROVE IT IN THAT MATCH
its not the hero its the team
@@sheesh...1038 it's the hero not the team, team just make Ixia to use her 100% power, if u say team is good, not hero, u can try to pick LAYLA as a threat in a international tournament, Ixia really good if u know how to use even in solo ranked or team ranked but first thing is learn to use it wisely
It's like wanwan somebody says she is not a threat, but somebody can use her to become a big threat to carry the whole team
@@jimmylim3462Ixia is not a threat. I can always kill her easily. Vee was right. Any mm with a great Mathilda teammate that babies them would be scary.
who tf is that guy behind veenus who is more talkative and has the right to ride with veenus' pick?? it should've just wise and veenus in there rathehr than those two wannabe's
Thats Tori, Wise's bestfriend
Bihira mga ganyang player, playing coach, fit na fit sya sa role na pag coach
Ocha gohaba?
Sabi si wolf daw ocho gahaba hahaha pero si baloy kasi laging inaask si vee about support heroes
Yung draft ng Onic ang mahirap ipredict
Jago juga itu Homo nebak hero
Ixia not a treat lmao,
Had to eat back his own words😂😂😂
I was about to comment this
This is captain cw speaking 🙌
@@kilamirA cw 🤡🤡🤡🧐🧐 clover winata ( look at the game ) cw 🤡 is most useless player in onic 😂😂
Ixia with the help of mathilda was a threat...
Threat not treat 😂
First
Why are we praising veenus??? Drafts are easy to predict cos this meta is predictable!!!
Well, did you predict the draft of both sides?
Puhlease HAHAHA
Geh nga mag predict ka
Engay naman nung katabi ni venus na naka polo shirt feeling pro player kala mo talaga eh sabat ng sabat kay venus.
Bobo! analyst din yan si toriyama sa mpl!🤦🏽♂️
It seems that hindi mo kilala si Tori. Friends nila Vee at Wise si Tori since Onic days dahil part ng Onic din si Tori before, Caster ng MLBB ang trabaho niya, at ngayon nasa NXPE na siya. Yes, hindi siya pro player, pero knows the game. Hindi siya magiging Caster ng MLBB kung wala siyang knowledge sa laro.
Kung naiingayan ka kay Tori, ganyan talaga siya, most especially pag kasama niya ang VeeWise.
@@blacklistagent2314 sa totoo lang maingay talaga sya. nanonood ako ng re-streams ni vee for analysis, pero kairita si tori. gusto ko sya nung nag ca cast sya dun sa pba esports kasi may alam nga naman talaga sya, kaya lang pag kasama nya si vee, medyo wala syang input
@@lokilovessif kaya nga eh parang gusto nya mang lamang kay vee. Feeling magaling Mag ML ang puta . Pwedi naman si vee nalang kasi may napatuyanan na . Sapaw ng sapaw kala mo talaga may napatunayan
@@blacklistagent2314 pwedi naman naman sya mag salita di yung every salita ni vee sasapaw sya or pinangungunahan nya mag predict . Kala mo talaga may napatunayan na sa MLBB pro scene . Wala syang karapatan pangunahan or sapawan ang maraming achievements sa mlbb pro scene.
2nd
lol gay
lol i would rather gay but smart like him......not like u stupid poor people
😂😂😂
🧐 indonesia 🇮🇩🤡 allowed GAYs wearing HIJAB 🏳️🌈🤡🇮🇩
lol lowlife loser 😂
lol hater
grabe ka sir veenus at miss wise
OHMYGENIUS yan.
Why does rafaela counters lylia?
Rafa removes Lylia's slows using her heal