I haven't watched the video. Is there proof Sabrina and Robert had an open marriage? Robert best friend claimed the whole "swingers" thing was not true. And he admitted in court that the 4 of them did have seggs in the same bed but they didn't swap wives.
Seems like Rob wanted the open marriage and enjoyed it, while Sabrina didn't. It makes me think that Sabrina was very, very, very angry about it, especially when she asked Rob to go back to a normal marriage and he said no. I think it was a kind of payback on her part, and Jonathan was just the person to help her with it. Annie, you're right, just get a damned divorce.
Once a couple mutually agrees to enter into an open marriage; if one partner wants to get back to a regular marriage but the other partner does not want to, then the marriage will be on very shaky ground.
Only a sociopath/psychopath would intentionally torture & hurt an animal. Johnathan will not change at his core; he will do harm to people & animals again under different guises.
Not all. Some manage to survive. But those that do are pretty dysfunctional and there usually isn't any real love on both sides. It's usually a marriage of convenience.
@@GreatCatsby_I think they’re saying opening a marriage up is inviting problems neither knew were there. You can’t save your marriage by introducing more variables
I am glad this country has a divorce law. Here, couples have an option to legally terminate a marriage, so killing a spouse option is a crime & will be punished.
You're absolutely right. If I’m going to get my needs met by another woman, why would I need her? I think she used these men’s love for her to manipulate them. She convinced her husband to open the marriage, using the same old lies, saying it would help fix their relationship. The husband clearly looks like a beta type, working 12 hours a day just to support his family and this is the reward he gets. I don’t understand men either he should’ve divorced her the moment she said "OPEN" the marriage. Maybe he stayed for the kids, but if the kids were really a priority, she wouldn’t have done all this.
I whole heartedly agree! I value my freedom and peace above all else in my personal life! For a moment I thought I was lonely and I got a dog, and he’s the most perfect companion.
I first thought that Jonathan was manipulated by Sabrina but once i found out about the Dog i was just.. yeah, He's just evil & i don't care what happens to the guy. I don't feel bad for him, nothing. Let him fry. Sabrina is just as vile as he is, she could've just left her Husband but instead she destroyed the lives of her children by taking their father away. Her Husband wasn't a saint but he didn't deserve this, his children and family didn't deserve this.
I live in the mountains in SB county. So I know where Helendale is it's not far. I never heard of this. And it still doesn't make me think it's a bad place. Would you rather live in Fontana or Redlands? What about Rialto? Where there's people on drugs everywhere and trash. Not to mention the crime and shootings.
It seems that Rob was “allowed” to see other people in their “open” marriage, but Sabrina was not. Rob could chastise and berate Sabrina if she saw other men. Sabrina had to apologise. While Rob could brag about his exploits with other women to his wife. No matter what you think about open marriages; this is a MASSIVE double standard and lack of reciprocity. So wrong.
Why do you think being Jealous is bad what are the full implications of the word Jealous do you think it’s bad to want to have an exclusive relationship?
@@MrBears25 Jealousy is a normal, human emotion for sure. Just like other emotions you either have it in check, deal with them in a healthy mature manner or, you don’t and those emotions are unhealthy and used in a negative manner towards others. The latter is when jealousy gets very ugly. It makes a beautiful looking person very unattractive real quick. Being jealous isn’t synonymous with having a monogamous relationship. You should be able to have a monogamous/exclusive relationship without being jealous.
@@jessicazellner7336 There is healthy jealousy and unhealthy jealousy. The fact that you cannot handle the idea that your partner desires other people (everyone does) then your jealousy certainly will not likely be falling in the healthy category.
You know there are Christian churches in Gaza right ? The IDF didn't evacuate or help them. They actually bombed one of the churches while a bunch of families were inside. RIP to them. Also in the west bank and Jerusalem. Young Jewish men spit on and harass old Christian women walking down the street. Christians are also second class citizens in Israel. Its a shame you don't know.
I have to make one correction to your report. Its not about the relationship. But i wanted to clear something up regarding Costco and the employees that hand out the demo samples. They are not employed by Costco. They are employed by another 3rd party who is contracted by Costco. I just thought i would clear that up so people arent confused. So please dont bother them by asking where things are located in the store or assume they are costco employees.
Same for the people at Wal-Mart. I did that job in high school, at different Wal-Marts and people would always ask where certain items were. And I would have to tell them that I was not even from around the area, let alone did I know the ever-changing geography of that particular Wal-Mart.
It’s been happening for months I click on law and crime and I’m like oh hi Annie lol I’m not complaining at all but I am confused, is it UA-cam or is she with law and crime now as well? If anyone knows please let us know 😅 I’ve asked but never get an answer so I’m going to wait under your comment and see if someone knows 😂😊
I’ve heard this case before… I believe it was a joint effort between the two. I agree with you- divorce is always the way to go over murder. It’s unbelievable how often this happens when they think murder is the best option- they always get caught. My other thought, and I’m not defending her in the least, is that the open marriage part tore her up, depleted any confidence she may have had. When Robert dug his heels in on keeping it an open marriage the continuing disrespect built up a lot of resentment, hurt, anger to internally justify her actions. Possibly? Idk, just a thought… Divorce is the only way out folks. It blows my mind when people are weighing the two options that the fallout of murder is less traumatic and impactful to all involved than the fallout and impact of a divorce.
You are forgetting about the payout of life insurance. Getting paid $300,000+ and all the time with your kids or losing half of everything you own and half the time with your kids. Is your mind less blown now?
As soon as they were talking about religion, you knew it was gonna be bad, people that talk about religion openly and how holy they are are the biggest BS artist, you don’t need to tell everybody because that’s a tell, we don’t need to know
Religious people scare me and this confirms why. They killed a man and are still talking about being blessed and feeling God's love. The hypocrisy and delusional thinking combine to get people killed, a tale as old as religion itself.
Johnathan is a psychopath. He has no remorse. It's hard to believe Sabrina was even involved since this jealous psychopath wanted to murder someone. He poisoned the dog as we know however, he may have poisoned many animals as serial killers are known to do. What we don't know could be a lot.
The wild and whacky world of true crime backgrounds. The law and crime sidebar background looks like blood spatter, Dr Grande has neon cacti in the background, and Annie’s other set with the geometric shapes on the wall looks like a space ship!
Not sure why she doesnt really add pictures or video or anything most of the time. Most of the episodes ive seen its just her on the screen the whole time which im not saying is bad but could be a little more exciting
Do people think its a coincidence or conspiracy that virtually every human culture has either practiced monogamy, or only reserved polygamy (NOT polyamory) for only very wealthy/powerful men? Seriously, even in Muslim countries today that allow polygamy, few men actually marry multiple women. Its almost like every human society has found that polygamy/polyamory generally doesn't work.
Yeah introduction of other variables destabilizes the reliability of the data. Basic science. If you are aren’t happy, bringing in further confusion won’t make you happier
That’s because in Islam you marry multiple women not for personal pleasure or prestige but for the sake of caring for women who need a husband (such as single mothers, widows, etc.)
Sweet Annie, dont stress about your hair, please. You look gorgeous, you always do. Besides, I heard the crazier the hair, the harder someone's been working on a case, so y'know... 👌🏻💁🏼♀️🥰💕💕
I believed Jonathan really loved Sabrina coz when his defense attorney said "this woman", Jonathan replied Sabrina. If someone who hated for what she did after he's caught & charged, he wouldn't call the person by name anymore. Lesson learnt - Dnt be embroiled with still married people coz it's gonna get messy.
This woman is awful, no dignity, no shame, nothing. The fact that she happily participate in an open marriage takes a very special corrupt human being. Then, she help killed her corrupt husband. There are no heroes in this story. Only victims and they are the children. Poor kids.
Cant see how any of those men thought she was a catch, she looks nasty and not a all blessed with looks, just the way she acts. I think they thought Arsenic would actually be the cheaper option than a Divorce 🥴Another excellent stream Annie 🤩
She should not agree to this and because she changed her mind don’t mean he should she agreed and if he changed his mind and she loved it l would be on her side but don’t agree then get mad
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@nikolasantamaria9335 just curious I know many don't like the female narrators. I don't mind them unless I'm listening to fall asleep, then it's less relaxing.
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This is why open marriage doesn't work out. No vows say open marriage.
I would rather listen to nails on chalkboard. She’s the sloan of true crime
These "open" relationships, in most cases, will lead to nowhere.
I haven't watched the video. Is there proof Sabrina and Robert had an open marriage? Robert best friend claimed the whole "swingers" thing was not true. And he admitted in court that the 4 of them did have seggs in the same bed but they didn't swap wives.
Open relationships are trash.🗑️ 🚮
"Open Relationshit"
Right, how do you say I want to cheat on you repeatedly without saying it?
What's the point of getting married if you're sleeping with other ppl. That's not the definition of marriage imo
Imo an open marriage is a deadly disaster from the first minute.
it is not. 20 years later and we are both still alive?
@@GreatCatsby_ what do you mean it is not? You don’t get to tell me what my opinion isn’t! LOL
Seems like Rob wanted the open marriage and enjoyed it, while Sabrina didn't. It makes me think that Sabrina was very, very, very angry about it, especially when she asked Rob to go back to a normal marriage and he said no. I think it was a kind of payback on her part, and Jonathan was just the person to help her with it. Annie, you're right, just get a damned divorce.
Once a couple mutually agrees to enter into an open marriage; if one partner wants to get back to a regular marriage but the other partner does not want to, then the marriage will be on very shaky ground.
Tested it on a neighbor's dog? Evil. He should be in prison for a long time.
Only a sociopath/psychopath would intentionally torture & hurt an animal. Johnathan will not change at his core; he will do harm to people & animals again under different guises.
All open marriages fail. Why get married if you cannot devote yourself to one other.
Well said.
Not all. Some manage to survive. But those that do are pretty dysfunctional and there usually isn't any real love on both sides. It's usually a marriage of convenience.
that is not true at all. just stop. all relationships are different. mono or poly? it doesn't matter. they all have the same issues.
@@GreatCatsby_I think they’re saying opening a marriage up is inviting problems neither knew were there. You can’t save your marriage by introducing more variables
@@gagewesterhouse9558Living in a loveless marriage is hardly “surviving”. I’d rather be divorced as would any rational person
If someone wants an open marriage then why be married to begin with. A marriage is Supposed to be exclusive
Open marriage = no marriage in my opinion
Truly.
I really don’t understand why people decide murder is a better alternative to divorce
I am glad this country has a divorce law. Here, couples have an option to legally terminate a marriage, so killing a spouse option is a crime & will be punished.
Open marriage is not a marriage. Why bother if you won't commit to a person?
You're absolutely right. If I’m going to get my needs met by another woman, why would I need her? I think she used these men’s love for her to manipulate them. She convinced her husband to open the marriage, using the same old lies, saying it would help fix their relationship. The husband clearly looks like a beta type, working 12 hours a day just to support his family and this is the reward he gets. I don’t understand men either he should’ve divorced her the moment she said "OPEN" the marriage. Maybe he stayed for the kids, but if the kids were really a priority, she wouldn’t have done all this.
@@alihaydaryalnz6118 you poor thing
There is a 100% guaranteed way to ensure you never have marriage problems and it's a very simple solution. Never get married.
I whole heartedly agree! I value my freedom and peace above all else in my personal life! For a moment I thought I was lonely and I got a dog, and he’s the most perfect companion.
What’s the point of being married if you want to be with other ppl?Sorry you can’t have me & others to ,just pick the others ❤
100% this is ridiculous, why even call it a marriage
I first thought that Jonathan was manipulated by Sabrina but once i found out about the Dog i was just.. yeah, He's just evil & i don't care what happens to the guy. I don't feel bad for him, nothing. Let him fry. Sabrina is just as vile as he is, she could've just left her Husband but instead she destroyed the lives of her children by taking their father away. Her Husband wasn't a saint but he didn't deserve this, his children and family didn't deserve this.
This happened down the road from where I live. This story really put a stain on Helendale. Most people won’t admit they live there.
Sounds like you live in Looneyville might be time to move
What a disgusting town in an even more disgusting Socialist state. Not even America. Vile.
I live in the mountains in SB county. So I know where Helendale is it's not far. I never heard of this. And it still doesn't make me think it's a bad place. Would you rather live in Fontana or Redlands? What about Rialto? Where there's people on drugs everywhere and trash. Not to mention the crime and shootings.
@@col.cottonhill6655move to San Bernardino none of that goes on here
If your partner ask for an open marriage or relationship they don't love you
It seems that Rob was “allowed” to see other people in their “open” marriage, but Sabrina was not. Rob could chastise and berate Sabrina if she saw other men. Sabrina had to apologise. While Rob could brag about his exploits with other women to his wife. No matter what you think about open marriages; this is a MASSIVE double standard and lack of reciprocity. So wrong.
I agree. I think Rob is absolute garbage and probably played a lot of mind games with Sabrina.
If you get painfully jealous, you shouldn't be dating anyone really. Maybe date yourself first?
Yes 🤘🏽
Why do you think being Jealous is bad what are the full implications of the word Jealous do you think it’s bad to want to have an exclusive relationship?
@@MrBears25 Jealousy is a normal, human emotion for sure. Just like other emotions you either have it in check, deal with them in a healthy mature manner or, you don’t and those emotions are unhealthy and used in a negative manner towards others. The latter is when jealousy gets very ugly. It makes a beautiful looking person very unattractive real quick.
Being jealous isn’t synonymous with having a monogamous relationship. You should be able to have a monogamous/exclusive relationship without being jealous.
@@jessicazellner7336 There is healthy jealousy and unhealthy jealousy. The fact that you cannot handle the idea that your partner desires other people (everyone does) then your jealousy certainly will not likely be falling in the healthy category.
@@rimmymindplease8120I don’t think everyone who’s married desires other people. Maybe you think that is true because you feel that way?
Been there. Done that. Marriage over. The end.
If you can’t stand your partner with another person, then don’t get into an open relationship.
Right!? If you're not comfortable with it from the start, then it's not likely you're going to get more comfortable along the way.
Why is this Law and Crime network and not Annie’s 10toLife? I’m confused??🤔
I have heard this story before but not the background information (open marriage) you provided. Thank you for covering this.
An open marriage will never end well. Like trying to evangelize on a street corner in Gaza. Not recommend…
You know there are Christian churches in Gaza right ? The IDF didn't evacuate or help them. They actually bombed one of the churches while a bunch of families were inside. RIP to them.
Also in the west bank and Jerusalem. Young Jewish men spit on and harass old Christian women walking down the street. Christians are also second class citizens in Israel. Its a shame you don't know.
😅
I have to make one correction to your report. Its not about the relationship. But i wanted to clear something up regarding Costco and the employees that hand out the demo samples.
They are not employed by Costco. They are employed by another 3rd party who is contracted by Costco.
I just thought i would clear that up so people arent confused. So please dont bother them by asking where things are located in the store or assume they are costco employees.
Same for the people at Wal-Mart. I did that job in high school, at different Wal-Marts and people would always ask where certain items were. And I would have to tell them that I was not even from around the area, let alone did I know the ever-changing geography of that particular Wal-Mart.
Since when is she on law and crime
It’s been happening for months I click on law and crime and I’m like oh hi Annie lol I’m not complaining at all but I am confused, is it UA-cam or is she with law and crime now as well? If anyone knows please let us know 😅 I’ve asked but never get an answer so I’m going to wait under your comment and see if someone knows 😂😊
She's on here every now and then. I thought the same thing a few months ago when they put her on here. I thought I tapped the wrong thing at first.
A long time.
@user-th2gf7cc5y I'm confused too. If I don't see her in a couple days, I will check law & crime. Which is how I found this video. Lol 😊
@@Britni-z5yShe announced awhile ago that she had been invited to appear on their channel. She also has her own UA-cam channels.
I’ve heard this case before… I believe it was a joint effort between the two. I agree with you- divorce is always the way to go over murder. It’s unbelievable how often this happens when they think murder is the best option- they always get caught.
My other thought, and I’m not defending her in the least, is that the open marriage part tore her up, depleted any confidence she may have had. When Robert dug his heels in on keeping it an open marriage the continuing disrespect built up a lot of resentment, hurt, anger to internally justify her actions. Possibly? Idk, just a thought…
Divorce is the only way out folks.
It blows my mind when people are weighing the two options that the fallout of murder is less traumatic and impactful to all involved than the fallout and impact of a divorce.
You are forgetting about the payout of life insurance. Getting paid $300,000+ and all the time with your kids or losing half of everything you own and half the time with your kids. Is your mind less blown now?
As soon as they were talking about religion, you knew it was gonna be bad, people that talk about religion openly and how holy they are are the biggest BS artist, you don’t need to tell everybody because that’s a tell, we don’t need to know
Religious people scare me and this confirms why. They killed a man and are still talking about being blessed and feeling God's love. The hypocrisy and delusional thinking combine to get people killed, a tale as old as religion itself.
Johnathan is a psychopath. He has no remorse. It's hard to believe Sabrina was even involved since this jealous psychopath wanted to murder someone. He poisoned the dog as we know however, he may have poisoned many animals as serial killers are known to do. What we don't know could be a lot.
This is some Jerry Springer, Maury and Dr. Phil $%^!
Something not quite right about how cavalier and silly this story is being told😕😢
"10 to life" on a cutesy neon sign is wild tbh
Saying everything is wild, is wild
The wild and whacky world of true crime backgrounds. The law and crime sidebar background looks like blood spatter, Dr Grande has neon cacti in the background, and Annie’s other set with the geometric shapes on the wall looks like a space ship!
Not sure why she doesnt really add pictures or video or anything most of the time. Most of the episodes ive seen its just her on the screen the whole time which im not saying is bad but could be a little more exciting
Do people think its a coincidence or conspiracy that virtually every human culture has either practiced monogamy, or only reserved polygamy (NOT polyamory) for only very wealthy/powerful men? Seriously, even in Muslim countries today that allow polygamy, few men actually marry multiple women.
Its almost like every human society has found that polygamy/polyamory generally doesn't work.
Yeah introduction of other variables destabilizes the reliability of the data. Basic science. If you are aren’t happy, bringing in further confusion won’t make you happier
That’s because in Islam you marry multiple women not for personal pleasure or prestige but for the sake of caring for women who need a husband (such as single mothers, widows, etc.)
@@adamlaouiti6415 not really.
@@Jordyn-p8k you're assuming that to be the case.
You have exited reality
Never will understand open relationships its just wierd, stay single like a normal person
I almost guarantee it had much to do with money as she was a house wife
May as well stay single if you want to sleep with anyone at anytime.
I have never been married or engaged.. nobody has ever cared that much on what I had to say 😬
does it seem like these 2 cared about each other? Love and marriage don't necessarily go together. Sometimes it is convenience.
Count yourself fortunate.
@@saltycat662 I’m trying too 😔
Welp at least you've found the only guaranteed way to never have marriage problems! 👍
Your not missing out on anything special , Enjoy the single life ..
Open marriages = open to problems.
Hiding behind religion, open marriage, cheating and murder in marriage is an American thing, happens all the time.
It's a human thing, unfortunately.
Sweet Annie, dont stress about your hair, please. You look gorgeous, you always do. Besides, I heard the crazier the hair, the harder someone's been working on a case, so y'know... 👌🏻💁🏼♀️🥰💕💕
I love your hair
Open marriage = one person effs around & the other person tolerates it.
Yall need to give this producers daughter a different channel link .. she should be on Entertaiment Tonight !
I get lost in her Valley Girl twang 😅
Open marriage so being single which is an option
I was confused for a minute. Didn't know you stream on law and crime
I believed Jonathan really loved Sabrina coz when his defense attorney said "this woman", Jonathan replied Sabrina. If someone who hated for what she did after he's caught & charged, he wouldn't call the person by name anymore.
Lesson learnt - Dnt be embroiled with still married people coz it's gonna get messy.
Wayyyy too long on the intro.
You are sooo awesome ❤
Your skills are amazing girl 🎉
Your hair looks great,have a nice day
Open relationship is dating. Marriage is a lifelong commitment.
Sabrina didn’t pull the trigger but she’s equally as guilty
Omg is 10 to life a part of law and crime now!!???!😍🥰🥰🥰
Thanks I enjoy your true videos
Open marriages are only for the mature and non jealous types. As a woman I support it with like minded MATURE men and women.
They're both equally guilty of murder.
Open marriage seems like it would never work out idk?
Flashback to the poison doctor
The one who had to Google the word "Widower"?
Where’s Ana Garcia cause this girl ain’t ready
This woman is awful, no dignity, no shame, nothing. The fact that she happily participate in an open marriage takes a very special corrupt human being. Then, she help killed her corrupt husband. There are no heroes in this story. Only victims and they are the children. Poor kids.
Cant see how any of those men thought she was a catch, she looks nasty and not a all blessed with looks, just the way she acts. I think they thought Arsenic would actually be the cheaper option than a Divorce 🥴Another excellent stream Annie 🤩
Great job, young lady 👍
Monogamous relationships don't work either. Pick your poison. Be honest and upfront about what you want in your relationship.
She should not agree to this and because she changed her mind don’t mean he should she agreed and if he changed his mind and she loved it l would be on her side but don’t agree then get mad
The room looks so nice 🤗
You look great! Your hair soooo pretty! 😊
Yup...the dog did it for me.
Just don’t grab anyone by the storm, because we ain’t doin’ that here!! ⛈️ 😂😂 Sorry.
Ultimately, it's Rob's fault for marrying high school sweetheart. That never ends well.
Well. There are plenty of examples where it worked out just fine.
Most people don’t stay with their high school sweethearts, but that doesn’t mean that those of us who do are destined to fail 🤦♂️
you can’t have
your cake and eat it.!
old….skool fact.
✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
@claire-christmas-august73 but sadly they do
That’s right girl!!
Violent, horrendous people. And religious hypocrites. Wishing peace and healing to everyone affected.
She should of just got divorced
Damn she talks to much get to the point please
I agree, too much exposition, but interesting.
People that love to be single acting like that want to commit. 🤦🏻♀️
Lemme feel sorry for anyone in an “open marriage “ when things go wrong.
Not surprised..
It's crazy that this all happened in my home town.
Honestly, we all should be advocates for divorce if murder is on the table.
Not a fan of this series.
Sorry to the victim and his family, but Rob is garbage. Probably one of the least sympathetic victims I’ve ever watched.
It's wild that she invited them out together lmao
Saying everything is wild, is wild
City girls up 💀
Oke this is about law and you start about the light and your hair....
Stop!
I think maybe we are all doing the samples wrong at costco? All I've ever said is, " What is this? Thank you to the sample people at coscto.
I'm not sharing my wife with anyone.
Pods when your just LOOKED at for an hour suck
Oh, I thought this was going to be a video on Destiny (Steven) & Melina.
My bad...
Joint effort 100%
You talk to much🙄 get to the point.
Annoying
Hello sweetie my soothsayer like Kim you two are so beautiful I adore you both thank you so much for your kind entertainment love you ya from Cape Town South Africa ❤
Wooooooo Annie 🎉
Omg this story is so close to where i live
blablabla . nothing for me like that. I hate listening to women😤😡
Women's voices in general or being told what to do by women?
@@katrinaisalwayscorrect blablabla 🥰
@nikolasantamaria9335 just curious I know many don't like the female narrators. I don't mind them unless I'm listening to fall asleep, then it's less relaxing.
It wouldn't be right if you didn't spend some time talking about your appearance before telling the story! 😅
You always look beautiful….always
I watched the trial
she tried to kill him once before poisoning his banana pudding
she used him to shot and kill her husband
🤢
He definitely got the free sample alright
😮 so weird to listen my home town being mentioned
What is a frolelo?
"Froyo" is frozen yogurt, I think. 🍧🍨☃❄
@@Litigator-4-life thanks for the reply! I love learning new things!
@@dianapaxton6373 ☺My pleasure! I love learning, too.