My MVP Vote Is Between 2 Players
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He'll be a better voter than 90% of the others because he'll actually vote based on basketball, not soap opera bs
Exactly, got Kendrick Perkins out here voting 😢
@@Young_LJ got Stephen a smith having Jalen Brunson higher then Luka
Crazy how underrated what shai doing, he’s leading a team of 22 year olds!?
@@chilldoc9638 He's a Knick, no surprise.
Plus Luka is Europeans, so that's a minus in SAS's eyes.
I can’t believe it’s taken 70 games for people to start paying attention to Luka man
Cause his seeding is finally good
thanks to jimmy
Shout out jimmy
you mean the voters to started paying attention. The viewers have been talking abt Luka forever.
@@soodhooku more like "cuz the casuals are running out of excuses"
Kyrie has missed 22 games, Exum 25 games, Green 21 games, Lively 19 games, and 37 games for Kleber. Despite all that, Luka kept his team’s playoff hopes alive when the injuries were at their worst, they’re now 2 games behind the 4th seed. When these guys were all healthy (apart from Green), the team is 19-6 (that’s a 62 win pace season). 34/9/10 on top of all that? Luka is my MVP for sure
stop using that pace shit
If this if that. If has never gotten the championship. We work with what we have. And what we have is a 5th seeded mavs, right now everyone is healthy and it’s time to put those ifs away and show in the playoffs why they are a threat when healthy
@@xPiratex_ no.
@@thecaptain9212 there was no ifs in his comment you ameba learn to read, everything stated was a fact.
@@thecaptain9212 I mean…I agree with you but I never used an “if”?
Kenny takes award voting more seriously than the people with an actual vote !!
No he doesn’t he was literally gonna pick embiid before he got hurt just because they’re both from africa😂 he’s a regular Kendrick perkins
Huh@@degengam2781
@@degengam2781 Did he say that? Source?
@@pommesdeterrevapeur he said he’s voting for embiid in the beginning of the video if he didn’t get hurt and he’s African just like embiid. Embiid never deserved mvp they gave it to him because they didn’t want to give jokic another one and Kendrick Perkins basically said if you don’t vote embiid your racist. That’s why Luka won’t win this year even though he’s deserving is because he’s yt. We’re in the PC era you can’t go Nash, Nash, Dirk anymore lol
Same way jokic said f it and went and got a ring, Luka will beat sga in the second round of the playoffs whatever lol
It’s like a Slovenian saying he’s voting for Luka for MVP after 30 games it’s pretty obvious lol
@@degengam2781 I should not even be replying to such nonsense but anyway.
When I asked "Did he say that?" I was obviously talking about the obnoxious claim you are making.
Do you have ANY PROOF that Kenny was willing to vote for Embiid because of his race? It seems to me you do not.
I absolutely agree with you about Kendrick Perkins, he is a clown. But you are a clown too for justifying a black man saying another black man is MVP because of their common ethnic heritage. It's not that deep man, grow a brain and some sense of tolerance and respect.
Its crazy the 3 best players in the world are a Slovenian, a Serbian, and a Greek.
Luka is half Serbian-half Slovenian
Number 4 is a Canadian.
Then number 5 is of course an American 🍀
@@Prabhbhole74447lol
If nba goes truly international then it makes sense
Luka is the 5th seed now and has the Mavericks on a crazy winning streak theres no more record or seeding excuses
I mean tbf his direct competitor for the MVP award has a better record and seed than the Mavs.
before the excuse for Luka was he has bad teammates, but no more excuses from that since the trades.
5th seed... out of 8 playoff positions.
@@socialistbatman1211 he's in the much more competitive west tho buddy
Still worse seed than Shai or Jokic. Worst defender of any of the contenders. Worst advanced stats
Kendrick perkins not gonna be happy with this one lmao
Haha good one
SAS isn't either.
Jimmy Highroller single-handedly got Luka front running the MVP race😂😂
How Kenny didn’t plug his video is crazy. Some shit he said was word for word jimmy highroller
It’s honestly crazy how much influence Jxmy has
Shout out to riff raff
That's fucked up
@@MadterchisefloverThe same thing happened to Jokic. He uploaded the video and he shot to the top of the ladder. To be fair though he’s smart with his upload schedule he always gives those takes in April/March. But luka this season has to win it, he’s got the stats, standings, highlights, improvement on both ends of the court.
it’s so sad seeing shai fall out of the top 2 but luka is ridiculous
He’s had enough mid games lately while Luka keeps ascending
Defense doesn't matter then
@imshubert8224 NBA is a joke Shai should be number 1 on the mvp ladder but the NBA needs the great white hope same thing they did to Kobe when they picked steve nash
@@darnellwilliams8783you are tripping the white boys just happen to be the two best rn😭
@@darnellwilliams8783 you are sad bro
It's Luka. They are within sight of the 4th seed and the only reason they aren't there already is because of the ridiculous injuries they had pre trade deadline. He was playing HEAVY minutes night in and night out to keep the Mavs afloat when they were consistently missing 2-3 starters every game, and he was putting up 35 point triple doubles a lot while doing it. His averages are out of this world, he had statistically the 2nd best game of all time behind Jordan (73 points!), broke the record for consecutive triple doubles... and so much more this season. Last night he basically ended the rockets in the first quarter, a team who were on an 11 win streak and the hottest in the NBA. Jokic is having a great season but Luka is just on another level this season. He absolutely deserves it.
The mavs are only 2 games up on the suns and they the 8th seed. There’s still a world where they loose in the playin miss the playoffs completely if that happens would he still be your mvp or does seeding matter?
@@yahiaali4059their remaining schedule look easy for them if they keep this kind of game then they winning it all
@@nobody26666 it’s all really close rn the playin is basically a March madness style anyone can beat any team in a one game situation. All I was saying there’s huge possibility they don’t get in the playoffs at all lol would he still be the mvp
@@yahiaali4059notice how he ignored your question lol, no one cared when harden did ts w his entire team was injured in 2019 and secured the 4th seed averaging video game numbers what’s the difference?
@@AngelHerrera-zl6yw harden was literally putting up video game numbers and he didn’t get mvp. Now all of sudden a team fighting to get out the playin should get MVP don’t make sense
I really hate the position Giannis is in because, by all accounts, he's having an incredible year - on par with his previous MVP seasons. Unfortunately for him, I think it really is between Jokic and Luka. With the Mavs finally healthy and winning consistently, I don't see how Luka shouldn't win. The only argument against him this season has been "he doesn't win enough." Dallas is now the 5 seed with a shot at 4th, and they're 11-0 in the last 11 games that Luka has played.
THe thing that has impressed me most about Luka this last month was his numbers dropping was a good thing actually. The synergy between him and Kyrie has grown to a level, I admit, I never thought was possible. They were actually able to move on from "your turn/my turn". I think that shows to us he does have what it takes to play with another star. And this star was someone almost no one thought would snyergize well with him.
One thing that make me sure Luka & Kyrie would work just fine is when Mark Cuban said Kyrie understand that it is Luka's team. And knowing how ball dominant Luka is, basically no superstars would team up with him unless they know and understand that they will be the 2nd option and that's what Kyrie did when he resign. On the other side, Luka is smart enough to give the ball to any teammates that is on a hot streak. Doesn't matter if it's Kyrie, THJ, Exum, Gafford, etc. If he know that his teammates is hot he will gives them the ball.
his numbers were dropping cause teams were blitzing him. last night rickets decided to defend him 1 on 1 and he went on a tear.
@@vantianhergheligiu12 well that's because if they blitz or double him, he can easily make the pass to the roller and the Rockets don't have enough strength in the paint to go against Gafford and Lively. The one time Rockets blitzing kyrie he pass it to Gafford and he got a hammering dunk. 😆
@@vantianhergheligiu12yeah but bro also has ~15 assists both of those games. He’s going to Jill you one way or another
@@mhqqiqin_facts, people really think kyrie just gets free 1 on 1 matchups, every game I watched from them he’s gotten doubled and blitzed too not as much as luka but definitely a good amount for a second option.
Jokic missing out on two MVP's for narrative reasons and voter fatigue is iconic
The injury story of the Mavs this year has to play a part as well.
if the argument for luka not winning mvp is that his team lost more, then you have no real argument bcuz you ignoring all the injuries and with them look at how close he is to the champions.
Luka mvp, jokic best player in the world
Close to what champions? Dallas isn't winning a thing this yr, other than a divisional title I guess. 😂 They probably won't even make it to the WCF.
Jokic has had teammates miss games as well.
@@na_k Jokics core has been there most of the season. Lukas core has all missed 20+ games. Lively missing like 19 Green missing like 20
@@diegovasquez8829 Luka mvp, Luka best player in the world, ever!
@@grumsigrumsi3185 now you doing tricks on it
Honestly I’ve never been more torn for an mvp race, for me Giannis, Luka, and Jokic all have equally good cases
it’s not Shai disrespect, Shai hasn’t been playing his A game recently. Nikola Jokic has just been amazing
So, by your logic, they pick the MVP based on the last 8 games of the season. Awful take.
@@MrJman967dumbass take fr if we’re just going off one month as if shai didn’t have the best november in the league
@@MrJman967it’s kind of true though. It’s called recency bias, it always plays a role in the MVP discussion
@@MrJman967 exactly, that’s how they pick it. Glad you understand!
@@MrJman967shai went from averaging 32 to 30, and that can make a difference
I'm a Mavs fan, so I'm obviously biased. Both have a great case rn. If the Nuggets are the 3rd seed and Luka is 4th or 5th I think Luka should take it. There was not a lot of narrative about the Mavs injuries but we've been fucked by injuries all year long.
As Jokić fan I think if seeding goes how you say Lula might get all votes even as 6th seed of Denver doesn't get first I will be very scared. I will say this if Luka wins over Jokic I'll be sad but definitely not mad
Id say because of the last years robbery, if nuggets get nr1 spot, joker will win, but next yesr the race is wide open, i hope joker wins this year and luka proves himself in the playoffs and he wins the next 2 mvps
I love your enthusiasm and candor. You would actually really good about talking about basketball on TV but you still have the excitement in front of a fan!
it has to be Luka, 30 9 and 9 is just crazy
34* but jokic is 26-12-9 on 10% better shooting and the two seed so it’s close
@@BrickwilliamsI think Luka numbers better
@@pnuttyinthacuttywhen you take seeding and efficiency into account, Jokic is prob better
Defense ?
@@Brickwilliamsjokic team been healthy all year. Mavs are a top 7 injury riddled team
I’m glad Kenny actually understands basketball. I think it should be Luka but if Jokic wins I can’t be too pissed off
Haven’t seen an MVP race look like this since the 60s lol
Straight into it! No click bait!
I’ve never been so conflicted in an MVP discussion, there’s legitimately 4 players who have all been playing at that level all year, and it’s just tough to argue one way or another
Luka is having the best season in the nba this year. Jokic is close but hasnt been better than luka individually, we overweight how much his slighty better efficiency actually has an impact on the game. Jokic's better effeciency this season is great, yet the nuggets only get an extra 2.6 shots a game compared to the mavs.
I agree but his efficiency is still important
Extra 2.6 shots equals an extra 2.6 points (or something close to that) which is significant.
Every advanced stat goes to Jokic except Usage rate. Which explains why his numbers are so inflated
2.6 shots is significant at the NBA level
@@kailencitron6839 Yes it is, but luka is scoring 8 more ppg. Those shots would have to be 4 point plays to cover the difference between Luka’s and Jokic’s scoring.
Luka deserves it fr, hope to see him take it home
Luka at 25 years old and this is just crazy. It's like he's been playing here for 15 years.
Ayyy kennny been waiting!
Its jokic or luka. Thats it. Shai and giannis deserve a mention but I feel there is enough of a gap that its reallt between 1 or 2. With that said, I have no doubt the okc will be insane for years to come and we'll see Shai on top 1-3 for a very long time!
We need you to weigh in on the Tim Duncan debate Kenny
There’s no debate. Timmy is #4-10 all time. He doesn’t have a goat argument because he wasn’t a high scorer
The GOAT is back!
Good breakdown
every time i see nba insta posts after a game, luka is almost always on there, usually with 30+ points and usually a triple double.
Hypeeeee kennnyyyy postttt!!!
Man…to see the top 5 MVP favourites be international players is amazing and huge props to how far the game of basketball has come
Jokic got this shit in the bag. Should be #4 in a row sitkiut that pity award last year for Embiid
Its luka doncic, people can pretend its a close race but for me its luka
I may not agree with all of this dudes takes but I sure as hell can respect what he’s sayin. Good video and explanations
Its Luka for me. If Jokic wins thats ok too. SGA is a close 3rd for me. No disrespect to SGA but if he doesnt play, his team can survive cause thats how scary good okc is.
Kenny hates the bucks
Tf?
No but the bucks need to at least be able to beat a Lebron-less lakers, not get 30 balled by the kings, nor get outplayed by an ingramless pelicans
@@progressiveoverload3915but they’ve blown out the nuggets, celtics, wolves, mavericks, and okc. i believe they play down to their comp a lot and will shock some of yall come playoff time
@@progressiveoverload3915Dont act like the bucks havent beaten the mavs already. Or that the mavs havent lost to an Embiid-less 76ers…. Yeah alright…
@@jucool5 lol the mavs had zero frontcourt depth when they played the bucks so obviously Giannis would abuse an injured maxi kleber. And it doesn’t help the mavs when pj Washington is shooting like 1-8 from three and Harris playing like prime bron. At least the mavs never lost to the WIZARDS, which the bucks DID yesterday- without kuz
As a Serb, this makes me hyper happy (Luka is half Serbian, not a well known fact). We don't have much but we have great ballers 😊
Oh its a well known fact because there is always some Serb in the comments trying to claim Luka like he is some sort of object. He was born and raised in Slovenia just as his parents. Only one of his grandparents was a Serb and this kind of slightly mixed roots are common for almost everyone in modern Europe. Its ridicolus that anyone would even consider Luka being a Serb just because of that
@@amberanubis8336 what? his dad is a serb, his mom is slovenian, his parents divorced and he chose to play for slovenia, it really is not that deep. people mostly wish he played for serbia because they'd have him and jokic (and the international success they could achieve together) but they still love him regardless.
Props to Shai for an amazing season. These two are just on a different level.
What’s crazy to me is that the top 4 in the mvp race are all international players
Looking back at the Giannis disrespect in a few years is going to be crazy
It’ll all make sense when we look back at their careers in 15 years and Jokic is a top 5 player of all time
It's gonna be the same for Jokic last season. It's gonna be the same if Luka is on Giannis place or even lower this season. I don't think it's disrespectful, it's just happened that there are few players who having their best season ever at the same time.
as a thunder fan I think that luka deserves it
Shocked kenny didn't show the luka hook shot from almost 3.
kenny the goat
Ive never seen the NBA media disrespect a great player like Luka, (who has the potential to be the greatest ever when its all said and done), since.. jokic himself. Like they were really trying to put ant edwards ahead of him? Gtfoh.
If Luka gets the Mavs to home court advantage and they win 50-52 games (I believe he will because of their easy schedule) he will be the MVP
SGA KENNY!!! SGA
what website do you get the clips on
Jokic imo is the MVP over luka both amazing players with amazing counting stats, and luka getting his seeding helps a lot too however I think the on off numbers really skew for jokic in my opinion Denver plumets in the offense when jokic is on the bench and thats where you see most of the losses happen this year unlike with the mavs where they do get worse without luka but not as much as you would think from a 35/10/10 guy going to the bench a lot of flow from the mavs offense gets cleared up when luka is gone (Luka is not a ball hog)
Jokic is once again the *most valuable* player when you look at his on/off numbers, but can we deny Luka’s 34 points 9 rebounds 10 assists.
On off numbers are overrated
Jokic mainly plays with starters so his plus/minus numbers are inherently going to be more inflated compared to Luka who plays with everyone in the rotation, especially when the Mavs were heavily injured
@@MoonIronTR you wouldn’t be saying that if Luka had the best net rating in the league
@@nicholaskatsikas4904 we would cuz we ain't casuals.
@@bornashamloothat argument applied more last year tbh- Malone finally broken down a bit this year and has staggered starters with the bench more
Dassss crazyyyy. What about SGA?
A Kenny Beecham Award for what ever is far more valuable then any Official award. Hope there's an KB Awards Night (video).
Is it a hot take to say in the next 10 years I think only 1 or 2 of the MVPs will be American born?
No, that wouldn’t be a hot take at all, because the European development system for teenagers is vastly superior to the American one atm. And it doesn’t look like that’s going to change at all in the near future
@@gregbors8364 If you said a few years ago that there would only be 1 or 2 American born MVPs in the next decade it would've been a crazy take. Crazy how times have changed
@@patrickwhittam1070 I agree. I’m old enough to remember when Euro players were considered “soft” and teams like the Blazers were “crazy” to “waste” a first-round pick on a player like Arvydas Sabonis. Times have really changed
Disgusting how no one mentions Giannis, it actually is. First ever player to put 30 10 and 5 on 60%, as a 2 seed in the east. Yet no one gives him credit. Definition of lebron treatment
People give him credit its called other player having better seasons 😂, Jokic wins more too
@@MRulli427 so why wasn’t that argument used last year for Giannis, it just seems to flip everytime he’s putting up historic numbers lmao, that’s why I said he gets lebron treatment, whatever he does the rules just don’t apply to what they were last year 👍🏻
Luka dropped 73, 10, and 7
Shot 25/33
8/13 from 3pt
15/16 FT
Most efficient 70+ pt game in NBA history
But let's talk about Giannis
Because his team is underperforming??
He was suppose to be 1st seed but closer to playin than 1st seed lmao
He's good but Luka is 34 9 9 on a much tougher western conference compared to the east
Brody used the Fictional in Depth 60+Draft class you will be blown away💯💯💯
It’s a European renaissance and I’m glad I’m witnessing it as an adult
The disrespect to Giannis is so insane
GianASS the Greek Cheeks
when you make a player they call fragile, dominate you
giannis shouldn't be in the mvp convo
@@chill6789what are you on about
Clutch player is demar
It's really about looking at the advanced statistics of these players and comparing them, right now Jokic is pretty much 1st in all of the important ones with Doncic at 2nd but also 4th in ones like PER and WS/48 however.
agree
It should be between SGA and Jokic.
When things are super close like this year things like seeding matters. Defense matters. Expectations matter. I think it should be Shai and if not Shai it should be Jokic.
notice how none of the mvp candidates are from the us, we got jokic, donicic, shai (canada) and giannis. with wemby coming in so hot does this just prove that international players are better
Chill out with all that. Just cause 5/10 top guys are foreign doesn’t mean international players are better 😂
@@ATF- What's there to chill out with? Jokic, Doncic, Shai, Giannis, Embiid are the best 5 players in the League RN and none of them are American lol
The Giannis disrespect is crazy. Like actually crazy asf.
rare kenny miss excluding giannis
i agree
Giannis keeps getting disrespected lmao
How do people consistently overlook Giannis’ greatness???!!!?
Can you please talk about my suns? It seems like Vogel is finally figuring out Bradley Beal’s role on the team and they look significantly better on defense as of late. Also, even though IT hasn’t played non-garbage minutes, it seems like hes made a difference in the locker room. Love the vids as always!
The mind must be right
The funny part is that Jokic did that 26 18 and 16 with an injured wrist. He says it bothers him but since he can play with it, he does. He has been playing with that injury since the Phoenix game.
Luka has been listed as questionable/gametime decision due to an ankle injury for the past few games too. Most players are banged up by now.
Kenny where is SGA in the thumbnail?? Don’t scare me😢😢
The leader of the team with 60 Wins will forever get no respect
That throwback Paul is TOUGH.
I haven’t watched the video yet to hear your reasoning or anything but I feel like Giannis has to be in the conversation. He’s on a top team and has good stats offensively and defensively and his team’s good. I may be a bias bucks fan from Wisconsin but I don’t get how he isn’t at least in the convo.
I watched the video and I get what he’s saying. I agree to what he said and I understand what he said. My personal vote is luka rn bc of the statistics and he excels the team so much. But Gianni’s and jokic are so close for me. Trying to keep my bias out the way I say jokic at 2 but Giannis’ defense I feel like most excel him over.
He definitely MVP they been tryna blackballed him since the 2021 championship
The part i hate most about this is everyone only looks at the counting stats.
Luka is at 34 9 and 10, with 1.4 steal and 0.5 blocks
Jokic is at 26 12 and 9 with 1.3 steal and 0.9 blocks
Looking at this, you'd think, "damn, Luka's stats are far superior" which they are... until you look at everything else.
Luka Jokic
38 Minutes/G 34
24 FGA/G 18
9 FTA/G 5
49% FG% 58%
38% 3P% 37%
So you can take these stats however you want, but the way I personally perceive them is Jokic can have the same impact on his team, with less usage, meanwhile taking his team to the better record.
That's why, personally, I think Jokic deserves the MVP (Not to throw shade on Luka, I think he's an absolutely beast)
but you can look even further for field goal percentage. 49% which includes 10 3s a game is pretty impressive. I don't think anyone has shot basically 50% with that many 3s taken except for curry.
man i hate being a Bucks fan this year 😢
Who would win in a 2v2: Luka & Jokic or Giannis & Shai?
luka & jokic are not stopping giannis & shai, but giannis & shai are good enough defensively to impact luka & jokic
Giannis stay getting disrespected smh
I love Kenny’s content but his analysis is pure vibes. I get the eye test is part of the vote but he’s essentially doing the same thing as these “old media” news outlets and making his vote from narratives mostly
Luka is just the most valuable player. Has been. People just starting to realize. Jokic wouldn't sniff the playoffs without Murray and Gordon. Luka took the khawi clippers to 7 with boban. BOBAN. Just stop bro. Get off these comment sections bro.
@@themaverick1898 I have Luka as my mvp since December. What are you yapping about sir
@@superiorvibes4639 I'm on a mission to get luka the mvp.
@@themaverick1898 then we on the same team brother 🤝🏾
It would be interesting to see who got the MVP if it was still decided by the players like it was back in the 1960’s and ‘70’s
It really is just them two, but the redemption arc for the voters to give him the award he should’ve won last year, on top of the fact that his team is a top the west, and Luka’s is fighting to keep out of the Play-In
Use this comment as a vote for Luka MVP button
If you think Russ deserved MVP when he had a historic season, Luka definitely does
I’d love to see this game go international like soccer or the most loved sport in the world, have lakers play against Madrid from Spain or teams from around the world and actually make it a “world championship”
If Luka wins the MVP he’s gotta mention Jxmmyhighroller in his MVP acceptance speech
Looks like defense will forever be under appreciated
😂😂😂
jokic literally has the 5th best defensive rating in the NBA
Luka is an average defender but one of, if not the best offensive player in the league. Not every MVP needs to be a two-way god.
Luka’s averaging 1.5 steals per game, he’s like 6th or 7th in the league. He’s not an elite defender by any means, but he deserves a little credit.
Jokic is an average defender, same with Luka, SGA Isn’t some elite defender, he’s good for sure but giannis is what you would call an elite defender
It's Luka for me. He has been the best player in the regular season by a significant margin. The guy is averaging 34, 9 & 10 on great efficiency and his team is winning games. If seeding didn't matter for Jokic in 2022 when he was the best player that regular season it shouldn't matter for Luka either. If it's about seeding and record give to Tatum then but that's not what it should be about
this is such a good take, well said.
It did matter. His 2nd and 3rd best players were out. Luka has an all star beside him. This if like the 10 comment I read like this. Please stop this false equivalency.
@@babyshak98 Kyrie missed a third of the season this year and the West is a much tougher and more competitive conference than it was in 2022. The seeding would play a big part if the Nuggets were dominating the conference like the Celtics are. But they're not
@@zigzagjames3112 Not just Ky, Exum, Lively, Maxi. Mavs are the 3rd most injury team this season. They started off strong and fell to the 8th, and like you said in a competitive conference this year. When was the last time were the top 4 teams are competing for the first seed and the bottom for competing to not be the 8th seed, the games are that close LOL. Oh forgot to mention Luka is the most blitzed player on the PnR, if they don't, what happens to houston last night is what happens.
Jokic has been the best player… he has a better offensive rating, better defensive rating, higher impact rating, higher efficiency, and better recrod
I'm a Mavs fan and think Joker wins it again but Luka should get serious consideration.
Make a video on how confusing the bulls are
So far Jokic is the clear Cut MVP to me. He plays less minutes than Luka and he has the far better advanced stats with the much better team record. If Dallas can get that 4th seed, it can become a doscussion.
it's an individual award though, don't overvalue record in the discussion
But you are damaging Luka because he team was injured the first half of the season. Also, Luka is average 34/9/10 with a top 10 defensive rating and 7th in the nba in steals. Mind you that Jokic won his 2nd MVP as the 6th seed putting numbers less impressive than Luka.
@@clickbait3753 yeah so look at jokic's individual advanced stats. I'm not saying advanced stats are the end-all of the debate, but its pretty insane the gap between him and second place.
@@blazingace1699jokic had a worse team when he won it
@@AlexS-si7deYou are saying that advanced stats are the be all and end all of the debate. Advanced stats are garbage, none of them hold up to any sort of scrutiny. If advanced stats were even close to being as good as you present them to be, then why aren't GMs and coaches just moneyballing every single trade and draft pick? We know they aren't moneyballing it by the numerous baffling trades and draft picks that are made every year, if advanced stats were even somewhat remotely good then that wouldn't be the case.
Also Jokic doesn’t lead all advanced stats by a lot. Take EPM (the most widely touted modern advanced stat) for example; Luka and SGA are above Jokic.
Jokic should win tbh. Luka doesn’t have the record and Jokic is putting up great stats still
mavs are 5th in the west now, jokic won an mvp and he was 7th or 8th
@@fatman3177 but he won it with a wizards level roster
It's a team sport separate that from mvp
@@vasco9823 u see the mavs this year, apart from kyrie the team is ass
@@fatman3177 its tough for me to ignore a top 50 all time player lol, but their team is better than that nuggets team regardless. majority of them are out of the league 2 years later, and even the starters other than gordon were no more than fine rotation players. with this being said, i'd be totally fine with luka winning this year despite being the 5th seed but its not at all comparable to when jokic did it
Luka and Nikola are clearly the best, they are bringing millions of fans back to the NBA. Nobody ever said I can't wait to watch Embiid or that other guy you mentioned who I honestly don't even know who he is.
Interesting you didn’t mention Shai, I was thinking it was between Jokic/Shai and then Luka playing himself right into that discussion.
At the end of the day, you put Jokic or Luka on the Pistons, which one takes that team to being a championship contender faster? It's Jokic. He's more valuable.
If Embiid or Shai didn’t get hurt…
They would still be worse players but better scorers. Luka and Jokic are better playmakers.
shai just got hurt , it wouldn’t have changed anything
Shai doesn't have a major injury. Is there something that bothers him? Yes but Luka is playing through many lingering issues as well.
@@DenOndeMister Shai isn't better scorer than Luka.
@@ronibarlund4464more efficent scorer
My argument for SGA is that he’s leading a team with 0 vets to a top 3 seed in the western conference.
And analysts like stephen a dont even have luka in their top 3 mvp candidates and he gets a vote 🤣