Curious how Q Victoria would lobby and support a relative of Napoleon ,once the the most hated and feared figure of GB and the monarchy, ! How things change when you call yourself an emperor, “you’re now one of us” . Another great well told piece of history ,
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@@51WCDodge There may have been political calculation. France was a potential enemy in war and exploiting its political fissures - ie. an exile considered the legitimate ruler by some French - would have been a consideration.
Absolutely fascinating. I remember when I first became aware of this episode several decades ago. I stumbled across his bust at the old National Army Museum in London. I couldn't believe the irony of the last of the Bonaparte dynasty dying whilst serving with the British army. He might have had a rather Gaulish impetuosity and not reached the heights of military accomplishment of his Great Uncle, but my word what a brave man and a credit to his family's Marshall past. What a faux pas by the British Officers on the spot though. Wonder what happened to the Austerlitz sword?
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@@TheHistoryChap Was going to ask the same question about the sword be amazing if it hung in some old Zulu warriors home or maybe its still out there in a field.
Empress Eugenie was a walking disaster, first pressing Marshall MacMahon, Napoleon 3rd and his Chalons Army into an utterly disastrous campaign resulting in the subsequent defeat at Sedan 1870, thus putting a definitive end to her husbands second empire, subsequently pressing Disraeli to accept her son into the Zulu campaign and thereby causing the final end to the Napoleon dynasti !
This is a bit more complicated. At the time of the French/Prussian war in 1870, Napoleon III was a sick man. His power was fading and France was at the verge of a new revolution. By all means, in a way the disastrous war of 1870 was seen, at least at first glance, as a great opportunity for the French Emperor to strengthen his power and subdue all opposition. It worked : the French welcomed the war with cries such as "A Berlin" (To Berlin). In England, Eugenie - quite penniless - struggled to maintain the appearances of an Imperial court, so spending quite some money futilely. I do not know if there is a connection, here, but I read different stories regarding "Loulou"'s habit to break his saddle's yoke when trying to get on his horse. Was he forced to buy a cheap saddle for a lack of funds ? Or was the saddle some kind of heirloom (from his father or his great-uncle) and therefore in bad shape ?
@@Brehat29 on the verge of new revolution??? In a nationwide referendum in 1870, a majority of the people appeared to support the Empire and their emperor (though this would be disappointing to the Republicans).
An amazing story and a tragic tale of the last hope for a Bonaparte restoration, my friend. I truly enjoyed it and studiying British history. As an American, especially a southern American, the lack of history taught in our schools is appalling. Thank you for your amazing channel and your pleasant narrations, keep up the great work 👍 😀
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In my humble opinion it was completely reckless of him to go into hostile territory with only a tiny escort and letting their horses wander off. Still, knowing how he felt he had to live up to his war hero relative and that is what got him killed I can't help but feel sorry for the poor bastard.
Killed by the Zulu's indeed! Reckless like him wandering into a black neighborhood on a Saturday night. You can feel sorry for him if you want. But......going into hostile territory with only a tiny squad of men without transportation demonstrates poor judgement.
Blame for his death fell on Lt Carey, it had to. He was the experienced professional soldier who was automatically charged with keeping Louis out of danger. If any of his superiors knew beforehand that Carey would let Louis lead the patrol they would have assigned someone else to lead instead. Carey was a fool who should have recognised a potential ambush situation. That was his job, and he didn't bother doing it.
Pretty good video, however I think you made a few mistakes. At around 2 minutes you said that in 1879 the Franco-Prussian War broke out, while it was in fact in 1870, which lead to Napoleon the 3rd being deposed. I think you simply messed up the years due to the significane of 1879 in this particular snippet of history.
I wish I would have been this into history in my 20s while stationed in Europe. I had plenty of time to travel but just didnt care to be there at the time, what a waste and a shame for me. Ita okay to have regrets but I'm glad I love history so much today. Its much easier to learn about in these short fantastic documentaries.
Thank you for yet another excellent episode... Never tire of these poignantly stirring, remarkably detailed & very well narrated Colonial episodes. Look forward to more of the same. 😊👍
Thank you for telling this story so movingly. I have a framed page from the London Illustrated News commemorating the Prince's short life and death on my wall. It's amazing what an emotional impact this minor skirmish had for so many people.
How fascinating, never knew about this because you only usually hear about Isandlwana & Rorke's Drift. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.....Hope you will cover the Battle of Mirbat someday
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Napoleon III lived in my old home town of Royal Leamington Spa between 1838 and 1839. The house is known as Napoloen III House, Clarendon Square, and there is a blue commemorative plaque on the wall.
I'm loving learning about the Zulus. History chap, have you red the book called: Billy ruffian. The Bellerphon and the Downfall of napoleon. The biography of a ship of a line by David cordingly?
@@TheHistoryChap Thanks you for replaying, that book is a must read. It is so informative and full of action. The ship that "captured" Napoleon Bonaparte after the defeat of Waterloo was the HMS Bellerphon. I guarantee you'll enjoy the read. I hope you have a good week. :) Many thanks
I live quite near to Farnborough and visited the Abbey some years ago & saw the tombs of the 3 Napoleons. I knew about the death of the Prince Imperial when I read 'The Washing of the Spears' by Donald R. Morris in the mid 1960s. I didn't then know that he was buried so close to where I lived. His mother also lived in Farnborough until her death in 1920.
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Once again magnificent history telling and , once again, i like the snippets you add re after the event (s). My English great grandparents, grandparents, and parents (b4 moving to Aotearoa/NZ) were from Farnborough and Aldershot region due to the Army and Airforce bases there.: Most of my cousins etc are still in aboding there :)
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My great-grandfather was with the British Army during the Zulu war and was at the camp when the news of his death was brought in. My sister still has a letter he wrote that night telling the news.
I recall reading a story that when his mother visited South Africa in order to erect a cross, they had difficulty in finding the marker that had been placed on the spot where he died. She then looked around and saw some flowers growing in a certain spot and hurried there. The marker was found in the same spot. She stated that he had always loved those flowers. Did you find any mention of this when you researched this story?
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13:28 This part is SO poetic! He having to stand on his own two feet in battle and not rely on those came before him. The moment of truth, as it were, yes?
My sincere congratulations!! One of your best videos! They are all good and extremely interesting. But this one surpassed many with its story of a young man who fought like a lion. I learned that Empress Eugenie on her tour of South Africa met one of the warriors who killed her son. And the Zulu praised the courage of young Louis. And he has more, my friend, his French is excellent. I'm a fan of your products!
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My connections. Woolwich dockyard where his body was disembarked. Woolwich Barracks, the procession route to chistlehurst passes by my family home, Chislehurst common, imperial way, the imperial arms pub, Camden palace/golf course/Camden Caves. All places ive lived, worked and visited. And i never knew this bit of history. I love learning something new.
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Hi Cameron, unfortunately that is the story of the world. Harrison claimed that he had given the Prince written orders but, of course, they weren't found.
There's a book of infamous courts martial ( with this case ), I did have a copy of it. The books' title and author I have forgotten. Was an interesting read, your explanation of the consequences of the Prince Imperials' death is very good. Hope you may cover how Napoleon the 3 came to power. Anyway Thanks for your channel !
I recall the book Scapegoat! Famous Courts Martial; Fascinating Look at Victims of Military-Law abuse John Harris. I recall the Zulus said they wouldn't have killed him if they had known his status. You explained the dilemma of the British giving him a title / rank...I suppose he wore a uniform reflecting that. I just think because of him being a Bonaparte he had to do something...there was still the Sudan. A victim of fate. I very much doubt France would have put him back on the throne, and maybe that was a reason for all this.
You are an excellent storyteller and I look forward to your videos. The Edendale Contingent, to me, were the only force to come away from Ishandlwana with any positive reputation.
Very well told. I did enjoy listening and watching very much. One thing: I think Napoleon Bonaparte was not his great-grandfather but his great-grand-uncle or something along those lines.His father, Napoleon III., was a nephew of THE Napoleon.
@@TheHistoryChap Ah, nobody will blame you. It happened in the heat of battle, after all. When you mentioned the lost sword at 13:30. Thank you for making history come alive.
Thank you! I’m fascinated, intrigued by this history. We have a large painting of the Sacred Heart and St. Margaret Mary Alacoque gifted by the Empress Eugenie to St. Saviour’s cathedral in Oudtshoorn, South Africa, to thank the priests who accompanied the prince’s remains back to England. It remained rolled up in a dusty archive for over a century and was rediscovered in the 1990’s, and now hangs in the cathedral. But sadly, nothing is known of the priests, their names, the provenance of the painting - nothing. If anyone has any info I would be infinitely grateful.
When I think about French history I seldom go to imperial France as a first thought. At least I used to. Thank you for opening a door to a new realm of study!
There are two roads in Farnborough one called Empress Avenue and the other Napoleon Avenue, always wondered whether these two roads are anything to do with this.
Excellent ! I really enjoyed this... but what happened to the prince's sword? I remember hearing something about the Zulu king offered to return it as part of his unsuccessful peace overtures to the British.
The renowned Italian poet Giosuè Carducci in his Barbaric Odes book composed one "For the death of Napoleon Eugene", a moving poem on the early death of all the late descendants of the Napoleonic family.
It occurred to me, again, how British History is, in a way, everybody's History. Take that as irony or see it as how powers shifted and shifted and shifted everywhere in the world for all of time in a world which is and always has been, "winner takes all." History Chap tells us stories that pivoted around Britain's power in the world. If a certain battle had gone differently, History Chap would be telling is about the Napoleonic Wars from the French pov ... in French. It seems to me many battles and wars were won or lost on the stupidest decision or some other bizarre circumstance. IMHO my reading of Military History tells me that many a battle was won by the side which simply managed to make the fewest stupid decisions and make the fewest mistakes. I"m rambling. Thank you. Cheers!
You, sir, are a master storyteller. This was delightful indeed, despite the sad fate of the Prince.
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Curious how Q Victoria would lobby and support a relative of Napoleon ,once the the most hated and feared figure of GB and the monarchy, ! How things change when you call yourself an emperor, “you’re now one of us” . Another great well told piece of history ,
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But you are also keeping a useful political pawn around to keep the opposition of balance.
Why? They're all related at some juncture! Sort it out bruv
@@51WCDodge There may have been political calculation. France was a potential enemy in war and exploiting its political fissures - ie. an exile considered the legitimate ruler by some French - would have been a consideration.
Napoleon himself wanted to settle in England after his defeat but was refused
I have loved history all my life.
You have an equal enjoyment and passion for the past which is clearly expressed in your stories, many thanks.
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Absolutely fascinating. I remember when I first became aware of this episode several decades ago. I stumbled across his bust at the old National Army Museum in London. I couldn't believe the irony of the last of the Bonaparte dynasty dying whilst serving with the British army. He might have had a rather Gaulish impetuosity and not reached the heights of military accomplishment of his Great Uncle, but my word what a brave man and a credit to his family's Marshall past. What a faux pas by the British Officers on the spot though. Wonder what happened to the Austerlitz sword?
Thanks for your comments and I agree with the irony.
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@@TheHistoryChap Was going to ask the same question about the sword be amazing if it hung in some old Zulu warriors home or maybe its still out there in a field.
@@TheHistoryChap I don't know if this is true (I read many conflicting reports of the Zulu war) but it seems that the sword was returned by the Zulus.
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Okay, but to whom, and do you by chance know where it is today? Thanks in advance.
Empress Eugenie was a walking disaster, first pressing Marshall MacMahon, Napoleon 3rd and his Chalons Army into an utterly disastrous campaign resulting in the subsequent defeat at Sedan 1870, thus putting a definitive end to her husbands second empire, subsequently pressing Disraeli to accept her son into the Zulu campaign and thereby causing the final end to the Napoleon dynasti !
This is a bit more complicated. At the time of the French/Prussian war in 1870, Napoleon III was a sick man. His power was fading and France was at the verge of a new revolution. By all means, in a way the disastrous war of 1870 was seen, at least at first glance, as a great opportunity for the French Emperor to strengthen his power and subdue all opposition. It worked : the French welcomed the war with cries such as "A Berlin" (To Berlin).
In England, Eugenie - quite penniless - struggled to maintain the appearances of an Imperial court, so spending quite some money futilely.
I do not know if there is a connection, here, but I read different stories regarding "Loulou"'s habit to break his saddle's yoke when trying to get on his horse. Was he forced to buy a cheap saddle for a lack of funds ? Or was the saddle some kind of heirloom (from his father or his great-uncle) and therefore in bad shape ?
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She was, according to herself, 100% responsable for the Mexican expedition.
@@Brehat29 on the verge of new revolution??? In a nationwide referendum in 1870, a majority of the people appeared to support the Empire and their emperor (though this would be disappointing to the Republicans).
An amazing story and a tragic tale of the last hope for a Bonaparte restoration, my friend. I truly enjoyed it and studiying British history. As an American, especially a southern American, the lack of history taught in our schools is appalling. Thank you for your amazing channel and your pleasant narrations, keep up the great work 👍 😀
Fantastic stuff ta!....fascinating time in French history...The Mexico debacle and all the rest....love the work you are putting out.✌
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In my humble opinion it was completely reckless of him to go into hostile territory with only a tiny escort and letting their horses wander off. Still, knowing how he felt he had to live up to his war hero relative and that is what got him killed I can't help but feel sorry for the poor bastard.
Killed by the Zulu's indeed! Reckless like him wandering into a black neighborhood on a Saturday night.
You can feel sorry for him if you want. But......going into hostile territory with only a tiny squad of men without transportation demonstrates poor judgement.
Died in battle. Unlike his great uncle.
Blame for his death fell on Lt Carey, it had to. He was the experienced professional soldier who was automatically charged with keeping Louis out of danger. If any of his superiors knew beforehand that Carey would let Louis lead the patrol they would have assigned someone else to lead instead. Carey was a fool who should have recognised a potential ambush situation. That was his job, and he didn't bother doing it.
Thanks for taking the time to post. I see you have really opened up a debate, which is great.
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Thank you so very much for adding 'colour' to these snippets of history, well done!
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Pretty good video, however I think you made a few mistakes. At around 2 minutes you said that in 1879 the Franco-Prussian War broke out, while it was in fact in 1870, which lead to Napoleon the 3rd being deposed. I think you simply messed up the years due to the significane of 1879 in this particular snippet of history.
You are absolutely correct!
I wish I would have been this into history in my 20s while stationed in Europe. I had plenty of time to travel but just didnt care to be there at the time, what a waste and a shame for me. Ita okay to have regrets but I'm glad I love history so much today. Its much easier to learn about in these short fantastic documentaries.
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Never heard of that story. Many thanks for sharing it with us all. As always a excellent video your passion for history always come across.
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Thank you for yet another excellent episode... Never tire of these poignantly stirring, remarkably detailed & very well narrated Colonial episodes.
Look forward to more of the same. 😊👍
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Thank you for telling this story so movingly. I have a framed page from the London Illustrated News commemorating the Prince's short life and death on my wall. It's amazing what an emotional impact this minor skirmish had for so many people.
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How fascinating, never knew about this because you only usually hear about Isandlwana & Rorke's Drift. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.....Hope you will cover the Battle of Mirbat someday
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I knew of this, but thank you for the copious detail and excellent storytelling.
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Fascinating as always! Many Thanks again!!
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A fascinating story forgotten or unknown by many! Thank you for your hard work! Great channel. 👍
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Napoleon III lived in my old home town of Royal Leamington Spa between 1838 and 1839. The house is known as Napoloen III House, Clarendon Square, and there is a blue commemorative plaque on the wall.
Pete, I love how the golden thread of history connects different stories and events.
I'm loving learning about the Zulus.
History chap, have you red the book called: Billy ruffian. The Bellerphon and the Downfall of napoleon. The biography of a ship of a line by David cordingly?
Jesse, I am glad that you are enjoying.
Haven't read that book but thank you for bringing it to my attention.
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Thanks you for replaying, that book is a must read. It is so informative and full of action. The ship that "captured" Napoleon Bonaparte after the defeat of Waterloo was the HMS Bellerphon. I guarantee you'll enjoy the read.
I hope you have a good week. :)
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Thank you for presenting this forgotten episode of The Anglo-Zulu War
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I have to add yet another absolutely fascinating comment. Well done sir.
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Thank you for retelling these interesting events from the past.
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Fascinating, many thanks.
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I live quite near to Farnborough and visited the Abbey some years ago & saw the tombs of the 3 Napoleons. I knew about the death of the Prince Imperial when I read 'The Washing of the Spears' by Donald R. Morris in the mid 1960s. I didn't then know that he was buried so close to where I lived. His mother also lived in Farnborough until her death in 1920.
Stuart, thanks for sharing your personal experiences.
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There is also a memorial to him in St George's Chapel Windsor.
Thank you for this story that i did not knew. Vive l'Empereur !
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You bring us some incredible episodes, well done and thank you. 👏🏻
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Once again magnificent history telling and , once again, i like the snippets you add re after the event (s). My English great grandparents, grandparents, and parents (b4 moving to Aotearoa/NZ) were from Farnborough and Aldershot region due to the Army and Airforce bases there.: Most of my cousins etc are still in aboding there :)
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A rattling good tale extremely well told!
Thanks mate.
My great-grandfather was with the British Army during the Zulu war and was at the camp when the news of his death was brought in. My sister still has a letter he wrote that night telling the news.
Wow, thanks for sharing.
You know more about history.
I’d love to know what he wrote
I recall reading a story that when his mother visited South Africa in order to erect a cross, they had difficulty in finding the marker that had been placed on the spot where he died. She then looked around and saw some flowers growing in a certain spot and hurried there. The marker was found in the same spot. She stated that he had always loved those flowers. Did you find any mention of this when you researched this story?
Yes, I did read that story. Not sure how accurate it really is but just from a sentimental angle maybe I should have included it.
I remember there were no actual flowers, just the scent.
Great video, thanks. I look forward to more content
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Well done again, old boy...I have read about the poor mans demise...
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Great story telling! Absolutely fascinating…
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Wow! Fabulous video thank you!
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Great story, excellent delivery. Thanks!
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A great story... Well told. Thank you, sir.
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So much bad news & staggering loss of life in such a short time.
Please keep up the good work.
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Another great one!
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13:28 This part is SO poetic! He having to stand on his own two feet in battle and not rely on those came before him. The moment of truth, as it were, yes?
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I always wondered about the details of this particular disaster during this campaign. Thank you very much. He certainly died a soldier.
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Great story, expertly told. Thanks for recommending it to me!
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Fascinating story I would probably have never heard unless you chose to tell it. 👍
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A fascinating story, of which I was totally unaware. Thank you.
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I read a few articles on this very subject but nice to a fuller account of the Princes earlier life and the events after, Enjoyed the presentation.
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I live in between Woolwich and Chislehurst, so thank you for this piece of local history.
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Thanks for such an interesting video. Amazing to think that Napoleon's great nephew's body wrapped in the union flag.
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Love the history of the Zulu war
Zulus attack! Fight back to back!
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Excellent report. Thank you for sharing this story!
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My sincere congratulations!! One of your best videos! They are all good and extremely interesting. But this one surpassed many with its story of a young man who fought like a lion. I learned that Empress Eugenie on her tour of South Africa met one of the warriors who killed her son. And the Zulu praised the courage of young Louis. And he has more, my friend, his French is excellent. I'm a fan of your products!
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Congrats on the growth the channel is having. Great stuff and we’ll deserved.
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I remember reading about this when I was so much younger in "Washing of the Spears'. It was a tragic occurrence,.
Pointless but then so many things in history are.
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Superb, thankyou, a very interesting part of history. An education.
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Brilliant channel & another excellent video. 📹
Thank you for your time & dedication in researching these stories & presenting them in a clear & very entertaining fashion. 🤔
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didnt know this history very interesting
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HI , and thank you for bringing this story to our attention it`s a shame the prince had to die that way ! cheers Si ....
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I did not know one of Napoleon's descendants had fought in the British army. Great video.
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My connections. Woolwich dockyard where his body was disembarked. Woolwich Barracks, the procession route to chistlehurst passes by my family home, Chislehurst common, imperial way, the imperial arms pub, Camden palace/golf course/Camden Caves. All places ive lived, worked and visited. And i never knew this bit of history. I love learning something new.
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Incredible story well told.
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Great video today thanks and let's face it they are always looking for a scapegoat for their own incompetence
Hi Cameron, unfortunately that is the story of the world.
Harrison claimed that he had given the Prince written orders but, of course, they weren't found.
Once again Chap, you are very good
Very kind of you, thanks
TY very much for this amazing story I didn't know - GG - City of Tours - France
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A good book to read, "Captain Carey's Blunder", The death of The Prince Imperial, Author Donald Featherstone
I bought it for my dad years ago.
Very interesting! I like your videos!
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From Imperial Paris to Chislehurst in Kent...quite a journey!!
Living the dream!
Interesting video on a subject largely forgotten today.
Thank you.
There's a book of infamous courts martial ( with this case ), I did have a copy of it. The books' title and author I have forgotten. Was an interesting read, your explanation of the consequences of the Prince Imperials' death is very good. Hope you may cover how Napoleon the 3 came to power. Anyway Thanks for your channel !
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I recall the book Scapegoat! Famous Courts Martial; Fascinating Look at Victims of Military-Law abuse John Harris. I recall the Zulus said they wouldn't have killed him if they had known his status. You explained the dilemma of the British giving him a title / rank...I suppose he wore a uniform reflecting that. I just think because of him being a Bonaparte he had to do something...there was still the Sudan. A victim of fate. I very much doubt France would have put him back on the throne, and maybe that was a reason for all this.
Great story, well told.
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Wonderful. I lover your videos. I always learn something, or at least have a new topic to research
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You are an excellent storyteller and I look forward to your videos. The Edendale Contingent, to me, were the only force to come away from Ishandlwana with any positive reputation.
Thanks for your kind comment. I think the Edendale need their own video.
Great story et histoire!
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Well done!
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yet another good video
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Never knew anything about Louis. He was definitely promising. And damn, the empress lived till 1920!
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I had read elsewhere about his death in the Zulu war but did not know the detail. I guess the cavalry patrols in the area were not that efficient.
She lived long enough to read out the text of the Treaty of Versailles in public at the grave of her husband in a kind of symbolic ceremony.
Learning so much .
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Very well told. I did enjoy listening and watching very much. One thing: I think Napoleon Bonaparte was not his great-grandfather but his great-grand-uncle or something along those lines.His father, Napoleon III., was a nephew of THE Napoleon.
Thought I had said that. Sorry 😞 f I got confused.
@@TheHistoryChap Ah, nobody will blame you. It happened in the heat of battle, after all. When you mentioned the lost sword at 13:30. Thank you for making history come alive.
My Godmothers Grandfather won the Victorian Cross at Rorke's Drift one of the many Williams at the Drift on that day.
Thanks for sharing
Thank you! I’m fascinated, intrigued by this history. We have a large painting of the Sacred Heart and St. Margaret Mary Alacoque gifted by the Empress Eugenie to St. Saviour’s cathedral in Oudtshoorn, South Africa, to thank the priests who accompanied the prince’s remains back to England. It remained rolled up in a dusty archive for over a century and was rediscovered in the 1990’s, and now hangs in the cathedral. But sadly, nothing is known of the priests, their names, the provenance of the painting - nothing. If anyone has any info I would be infinitely grateful.
Thanks for watching my video and for sharing this very interesting information. I hope someone can help you.
One thing that would make your videos better would be maybe an animated representation of the unit movements you describe.
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When I think about French history I seldom go to imperial France as a first thought. At least I used to. Thank you for opening a door to a new realm of study!
Glad I've opened a door for you.
He was upset he couldn't do what he loved and was best at. Well fighting so hard that you earn the respect of your enemies...now that's soldiering
Interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing.
@The History Chap I mean the Zulu warriors did say he fought like a lion so...yeah I'd say he succeeded in being a soldier
Very interesting, I had no idea.
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excellent video 📹
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Harry Flashman was there and saw it all happen. He was supposed to keep an eye on him - Flashman and the Tiger.
Flashman is a bit like Churchill. He pops up everywhere!
I did not read that but I am sure self-preservation would have been his first thought in the debacle, managing not to be blamed for it his second.
Enjoyed that….. very interesting..
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Poetic,
This dog loves your story telling voice
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There are two roads in Farnborough one called Empress Avenue and the other Napoleon Avenue, always wondered whether these two roads are anything to do with this.
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@@TheHistoryChap Thanks again for your videos, very informative. Keep up the great work!
Was the sword ever recovered? Great piece of history.
Awesome
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Excellent ! I really enjoyed this... but what happened to the prince's sword?
I remember hearing something about the Zulu king offered to return it as part of his unsuccessful peace overtures to the British.
Not sure about the sword.
The renowned Italian poet Giosuè Carducci in his Barbaric Odes book composed one "For the death of Napoleon Eugene", a moving poem on the early death of all the late descendants of the Napoleonic family.
Thank you for taking the time to share
It occurred to me, again, how British History is, in a way, everybody's History. Take that as irony or see it as how powers shifted and shifted and shifted everywhere in the world for all of time in a world which is and always has been, "winner takes all." History Chap tells us stories that pivoted around Britain's power in the world. If a certain battle had gone differently, History Chap would be telling is about the Napoleonic Wars from the French pov ... in French.
It seems to me many battles and wars were won or lost on the stupidest decision or some other bizarre circumstance. IMHO my reading of Military History tells me that many a battle was won by the side which simply managed to make the fewest stupid decisions and make the fewest mistakes.
I"m rambling. Thank you. Cheers!
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There is a monument just off the Plymouth Hoo which commemorates Prince Louis
Thanks, I didn't know about that.