I don't see why it should be painful recoil wise? I shoot a 6 LB 20 bore 695 Beretta with 30 gms all day. Sometimes 32 gms. Never had a problem. In fact, I Fired over 300 cartridges in a couple of hours yesterday. I don't have a recoil pad either. Gun fit determines recoil pain or the lack of it.
Like many others I wanted to hate the glock but it's record speaks for itself ( I'm a 1911 man truth be told) that said you can't argue with plastic as a tough material if it works it works thanks for another fine review
As a fellow 1911 fan I understand your viewpoint entirely, polymer for millitary and police use is clearly wise. But I want walnut and colour case hardening on my shotguns !
I agree, I am a 1911 man to the core but I would pick a Glock 20 10mm for travelling in remote places in the USA. Lightest bear protection to carry for certain.
I was talking to a RFD when these came out and he recons they will be a very good gun for those wanting a cross over from a side by side personally I don’t like the gun but can admire it I like the plastic engraved plates and the way the action is blacked it’s a very nice styling beretta have come out with it would worry me using bigger cartridges through such a light gun though
Walking gun boxing day so took the light weight 20b non ejector didnt want to be dropping carts as I walk , 4-6 shots a drive normally well last drive was a red letter day 31 shots the beaters laughing at me, dog bring birds back left right centre ,started to wish I had brought the heavy 12b with ejectors.
Just a shoutout to Lloyd, hope all is well, and you and family are doing great, just not seen a post on here for a shot time, so just a thought from a fan of the channel 👍
Hi lloyd a most imformative reveiw obviously too light for claying. Just a quick one tried a 725 and on mounting it was cockling to the right any idea please
Thanks for the video! I'm an armorer for my dept and armor on the order of 140 Glock 22,23, and 27 handguns 2 times a year. They aren't pretty, nor are they 1911. What they are is hell for strong and reliable. I have had to send 4 old gen 3 model 22's back to Glock for replacement due to failures that made replacement necessary. The thing is that the pieces that failed were the metal bits on firearms that had digested 120-150k through each firearm. 1 was a slide that broke in a high wear area, 1 was a rear metal tab on the frame where the slide rides, 2 were sheared locking lugs on barrels. The plastic frame on these particular firearms aren't what failed. The plastic on the frame of the Beretta makes a lot of sense for what they want to do with it. I have both steel and one alloy frame Ithaca model 37s. The steel guns are in the mid/high 6lb range 16 gauge. The alloy frame gun is well under 6lbs and a 20 gauge. The 20 gauge gun is GREAT to carry but is less than fun to shoot due to handling and especially recoil. It's not fun with 3/4 ounce reloads and is a nasty thing with 7/8 ounce loads up to punishing with anything heavier. The 16s have the same fit and due to the heavier weight are just better for most field situations. Thanks again for showing us a new shotgun and bringing out the good, bad, and ugly.
@@RichardEnglander I really want to try it, but I doubt I will be given the opportunity. The shame is I was a pistol shooter for years, and love pistol shooting, Jonny does not.
@@lloydyp I've shot proper pistols only twice. It came easily to me, R.O. didn't believe it was my first go. So much fun, such a shame we have to appeal to the lowest common denominator, the idiots who ruin it for all
What's the upside to this gun vs a traditional 686/687 Beretta ultralight on the used market? The original Beretta Ultralight had a mid-rib and no plastic. The only difference I can see is the older guns only had a 2.75" chamber, but who wants to shoot 3" shells out of a 6lb 12? Other than the ability to get the gun in 30" barrels I can't see the upside, unless someone was set on owning a new gun.
I've no problems with plastic, would you say it would make an alternate for the alloy action 12 gauge KOFs. I use a 30" KOFs in the field, light and fast. Just wondering your thoughts. Happy New Year mucker.
A year on sat watching this again. I've just bought a beretta lightweight cos I can't get a leggerero. Still looking, think I'll just buy new. Arthritis mate, nowt to getting old and slow.
For it being a so called Ultraleggero they should have used a aluminum or titanium alloy for the plastic substitution insets. Yes, plastic is used in other firearms but they are often bottom of the market inexpensive firearms. A Glock 17, for example, is a utilitarian pistol. When compared to say a high end Atlas 2011 there is an expectation of higher materials. If Beretta is positioning this product as a high end field model they should have known well that the market they are selling to would be very resistant to the idea of adding any form of plastic to an expensive or even mid-grade over and under.
@Lloyd, thanks for the review. I still have mixed feelings about this gun but again I haven’t handled it. I’m a big beretta fan though and my gun safe can attest to this 😂 I have a question for you please: you mentioned here that the lack of mid-rib was to keep the weight down. If I remember well, in your K-80 review, you mentioned that the lack of mid-rib meant using heavier barrels and increased overall K-80 weight to nearly 9 lb (it might be someone else’s review and I’m mixed up). Can you please clarify whether the mid-rib attributes to heavier or lighter gun? I understand if everything is the same and you remove a chunk of metal you reduce weight; but can you? Or do you need heavier sturdier barrels?
Depends on who makes the gun and how they make their barrels, there are ribless guns out there from Perazzi, Boss and Longthorne. Those 3 are lighter than the ribbed.
Fusil Beretta ultraleggero acheté neuf en 20/76 et canons de 66cm.... Fusil changé 3 fois suite à des problèmes d'éjections de la cartouche du canon du haut soit le 2eme coup et ce en ayant tiré la cartouche du bas ou non tiré. Pour le dernier queue de fermeture qui ne se verrouille pas (j'ai la magnifique vidéo à ce sujet), je passe les détails sur les fois ou l'arme et partie en SAV pour revenir encore plus défectueuse qu'avant son départ c'est de l'amateurisme (en tout 10 aller retour chez l'armurier) !!! Demande de remboursement faite car c'est inadmissible qu'un fusil Beretta soit aussi peu fiable ! Dommage car l'arme reste exceptionnelle dans son équilibre sa légèreté et mérite une véritable attention à la fabrication pour la rendre fiable car pour l'instant c'est un massacre commercial ou une arnaque de vendre "ça"...
Looks like a proper hunting gun. Its too bad about the ole walked day footage was a no goer. It's not easy filming self hunts every week. Takes real skill.
Lots of moaning, it's plastic in non pressure bearing areas, it's not a high cartridge volume gun, nice to see a favourable Beretta review for a change rather than Browning Browning Browning
I've taken one of the guns out and I largely agree. The gun is good on a slow walk up day or in a tight wood. But the recoil is awful and I would not recommend the gun for women at all. The only way I could feel reasonably comfortable with the gun was to use my Hull 28g Imperial game cartridges as they are a fantastic cartridge with very little recoil. Every other cartridge I tried apart from the Hull Comp X 21g caused way too much recoil. The gun looks great but oh that recoil. 👎☹
The field design almost makes more sense if it was only offered in 20 and 28 gauge as a special edition for upland hunting. As it sits the Beretta 686 Pigeon 1 seems like a far better deal. Hell Benelli's 828u 20 Gauge is as light.
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The Beavertail stock is a neat ideal. I have a 1897 Winchester with the same configuration.🇺🇸🐻
Corker Lloyd. Good to see you back!!!!
I don't see why it should be painful recoil wise? I shoot a 6 LB 20 bore 695 Beretta with 30 gms all day. Sometimes 32 gms. Never had a problem. In fact, I Fired over 300 cartridges in a couple of hours yesterday. I don't have a recoil pad either. Gun fit determines recoil pain or the lack of it.
What about Carbon Fiber for the Side & Bottom Plates, still light but more wearable?
Like many others I wanted to hate the glock but it's record speaks for itself ( I'm a 1911 man truth be told) that said you can't argue with plastic as a tough material if it works it works thanks for another fine review
I’m a massive fan of the 1911/2011 design, but the Glock as an edc is hard to argue with.
As a fellow 1911 fan I understand your viewpoint entirely, polymer for millitary and police use is clearly wise. But I want walnut and colour case hardening on my shotguns !
I agree, I am a 1911 man to the core but I would pick a Glock 20 10mm for travelling in remote places in the USA. Lightest bear protection to carry for certain.
B525 hunter light or beretra ultraleggero?
I was talking to a RFD when these came out and he recons they will be a very good gun for those wanting a cross over from a side by side personally I don’t like the gun but can admire it I like the plastic engraved plates and the way the action is blacked it’s a very nice styling beretta have come out with it would worry me using bigger cartridges through such a light gun though
20 bore version please
Love my Feather 725 12 gauge with 26 inch barrels at 6 pounds and 7 ounces.
Hi, do you still prefer the 725 feather?
Does the feather stand up to 1,000 of rounds?
Lloyd que belleza de escopeta, me encantan las berettas y gracias por difundir estos videos
Nice one Lloyd very informative as usual
Thank you,
Good clear review of an interesting gun if field guns are your thing
Thank you Colin.
Walking gun boxing day so took the light weight 20b non ejector didnt want to be dropping carts as I walk , 4-6 shots a drive normally well last drive was a red letter day 31 shots the beaters laughing at me, dog bring birds back left right centre ,started to wish I had brought the heavy 12b with ejectors.
Just a shoutout to Lloyd, hope all is well, and you and family are doing great, just not seen a post on here for a shot time, so just a thought from a fan of the channel 👍
Thanks man. Mrs P and I are fine, just getting settled into our new home.
@@lloydyp oh very good 😁
Hi lloyd a most imformative reveiw obviously too light for claying. Just a quick one tried a 725 and on mounting it was cockling to the right any idea please
I hope there is a 20 bore version on the horizon. I don’t care how much plastic is used on it, the lighter the better as far as I’m concerned.
For target shooting just get a mercury barrel weight.
Walk up is what 90% of us do in the states and the Ultraleggero isn.t even available here. I think Beretta should chamber it in 20 gauge as well.
Nice field gun for hunting .
Indeed.
Would it be suitable for ISSF skeet? With the 24 gram loads? Or so lightweight that the shoulder will get sore?
I think you would be better off with a dedicated skeet gun.
Thanks for the video!
I'm an armorer for my dept and armor on the order of 140 Glock 22,23, and 27 handguns 2 times a year. They aren't pretty, nor are they 1911. What they are is hell for strong and reliable. I have had to send 4 old gen 3 model 22's back to Glock for replacement due to failures that made replacement necessary. The thing is that the pieces that failed were the metal bits on firearms that had digested 120-150k through each firearm. 1 was a slide that broke in a high wear area, 1 was a rear metal tab on the frame where the slide rides, 2 were sheared locking lugs on barrels. The plastic frame on these particular firearms aren't what failed. The plastic on the frame of the Beretta makes a lot of sense for what they want to do with it.
I have both steel and one alloy frame Ithaca model 37s. The steel guns are in the mid/high 6lb range 16 gauge. The alloy frame gun is well under 6lbs and a 20 gauge. The 20 gauge gun is GREAT to carry but is less than fun to shoot due to handling and especially recoil. It's not fun with 3/4 ounce reloads and is a nasty thing with 7/8 ounce loads up to punishing with anything heavier. The 16s have the same fit and due to the heavier weight are just better for most field situations.
Thanks again for showing us a new shotgun and bringing out the good, bad, and ugly.
I wonder what you think of the Longthorne version of the Browning high power?
@@RichardEnglander I really want to try it, but I doubt I will be given the opportunity. The shame is I was a pistol shooter for years, and love pistol shooting, Jonny does not.
Thanks Parris.
@@lloydyp I've shot proper pistols only twice.
It came easily to me, R.O. didn't believe it was my first go.
So much fun, such a shame we have to appeal to the lowest common denominator, the idiots who ruin it for all
When will you get to review the sl3 that has just come out?
The SL2? I don’t know when the press gun will appear but I’ll review it as soon as possible.
Hi Lloyd
What type of shooting glasses you got in this video
Thanks
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They are a special edition model designed to protect his forehead. Make sure you get the ones designed to protect your eyes….😂
Hi Lloyd. You Ok mate? Not seen anything for a while mate...
Yes mate, house is being renovated so all my computers and kit are in storage, can’t make content with nothing to edit it on.
@@lloydyp Good Man. Looking forward to the next. Cheers!
What about 20 Gauge and price?? I have a Beretta Silver Snipe 20 gauge 26 barrels from 1962. It is a GREAT shotgun!!
Agree, I’ve a Beretta 686S 20 bore from the mid eighties that has 26” barrels, Imp&1/4. Weighs 5lb 12oz and is a lovely gun to shoot.
price?
£2100 or thereabouts.
What's the upside to this gun vs a traditional 686/687 Beretta ultralight on the used market? The original Beretta Ultralight had a mid-rib and no plastic. The only difference I can see is the older guns only had a 2.75" chamber, but who wants to shoot 3" shells out of a 6lb 12? Other than the ability to get the gun in 30" barrels I can't see the upside, unless someone was set on owning a new gun.
I've no problems with plastic, would you say it would make an alternate for the alloy action 12 gauge KOFs. I use a 30" KOFs in the field, light and fast. Just wondering your thoughts. Happy New Year mucker.
It’s as good as any lightweight 12. Although I dare say that a steel action Beretta will outlast an alloy Kofs.
@@lloydyp Probably but the KOFs feels more "Miroku" like. But we could discuss pros and cons for weeks. Good review mucker, I'd like to try one 👍
A year on sat watching this again. I've just bought a beretta lightweight cos I can't get a leggerero. Still looking, think I'll just buy new. Arthritis mate, nowt to getting old and slow.
Another great video.. when we having a shoot Lloyd?
I dunno, when are you going to bywell?
@@lloydyp looking to travel up and shoot mid Jan and would be fantastic to have a shoot with you?
Perché quando presentano un fucile Beretta parlano sempre in lingua straniera?Piacerebbe anche a sentire i commenti
So, you left it in then Lloyd!
Why aye, it's funny.
For it being a so called Ultraleggero they should have used a aluminum or titanium alloy for the plastic substitution insets. Yes, plastic is used in other firearms but they are often bottom of the market inexpensive firearms. A Glock 17, for example, is a utilitarian pistol. When compared to say a high end Atlas 2011 there is an expectation of higher materials. If Beretta is positioning this product as a high end field model they should have known well that the market they are selling to would be very resistant to the idea of adding any form of plastic to an expensive or even mid-grade over and under.
@Lloyd, thanks for the review. I still have mixed feelings about this gun but again I haven’t handled it. I’m a big beretta fan though and my gun safe can attest to this 😂
I have a question for you please: you mentioned here that the lack of mid-rib was to keep the weight down. If I remember well, in your K-80 review, you mentioned that the lack of mid-rib meant using heavier barrels and increased overall K-80 weight to nearly 9 lb (it might be someone else’s review and I’m mixed up).
Can you please clarify whether the mid-rib attributes to heavier or lighter gun?
I understand if everything is the same and you remove a chunk of metal you reduce weight; but can you? Or do you need heavier sturdier barrels?
Depends on who makes the gun and how they make their barrels, there are ribless guns out there from Perazzi, Boss and Longthorne. Those 3 are lighter than the ribbed.
The Krieghoff use case / design is pretty much unique in the way they engineer their guns as opposed to everyone else.
Fusil Beretta ultraleggero acheté neuf en 20/76 et canons de 66cm.... Fusil changé 3 fois suite à des problèmes d'éjections de la cartouche du canon du haut soit le 2eme coup et ce en ayant tiré la cartouche du bas ou non tiré. Pour le dernier queue de fermeture qui ne se verrouille pas (j'ai la magnifique vidéo à ce sujet), je passe les détails sur les fois ou l'arme et partie en SAV pour revenir encore plus défectueuse qu'avant son départ c'est de l'amateurisme (en tout 10 aller retour chez l'armurier) !!! Demande de remboursement faite car c'est inadmissible qu'un fusil Beretta soit aussi peu fiable ! Dommage car l'arme reste exceptionnelle dans son équilibre sa légèreté et mérite une véritable attention à la fabrication pour la rendre fiable car pour l'instant c'est un massacre commercial ou une arnaque de vendre "ça"...
Looks like a proper hunting gun. Its too bad about the ole walked day footage was a no goer. It's not easy filming self hunts every week. Takes real skill.
I dont think skill is the limiting factor. It's time.
Interesting
I can't stand the looks of an over/under with a gap between the barrels. It's like they didn't finish it.
Lots of moaning, it's plastic in non pressure bearing areas, it's not a high cartridge volume gun, nice to see a favourable Beretta review for a change rather than Browning Browning Browning
I’m sure this gun has a place. Just not in my safe.
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I've taken one of the guns out and I largely agree. The gun is good on a slow walk up day or in a tight wood. But the recoil is awful and I would not recommend the gun for women at all. The only way I could feel reasonably comfortable with the gun was to use my Hull 28g Imperial game cartridges as they are a fantastic cartridge with very little recoil. Every other cartridge I tried apart from the Hull Comp X 21g caused way too much recoil. The gun looks great but oh that recoil. 👎☹
I disagree, I put some 32g 5s through it and it punchy but fine, no worse than a lightweight SxS. Everyone’s perception of recoil is different.
The field design almost makes more sense if it was only offered in 20 and 28 gauge as a special edition for upland hunting. As it sits the Beretta 686 Pigeon 1 seems like a far better deal. Hell Benelli's 828u 20 Gauge is as light.
E a milha dos meus sonho
Can you review the new Zoli one !
I will if they send me one.