7 MAJOR Plot Holes in GTA... That Make ZERO Sense (ROCKSTAR LOGIC)

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  • 7 MAJOR Plot Holes in Grand Theft Auto... That Make ZERO Sense (ROCKSTAR LOGIC)
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    Rockstar Logic is a very real thing... Sometimes there are things in GTA that make ZERO sense. Like Tommy Vercetti. He took over ALL of Vice City, but he can't swim LOL. Today we investigate GTA Logic from Jim Fitzgerald in GTA 4 & TLaD and his drastic appearance change to Phil Cassidy and how his arm got switched places. This Rockstar Logic is very interesting!
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  • @ZacCoxTV
    @ZacCoxTV  4 роки тому +162

    *WTF was Rockstar Games thinking with some of these oversights haha? ONLY KIDDING! Of course mistakes are going to be made. Thank you to all the Rockstar Games developers and employees for making these awesome games throughout the years.*

    • @jonahvitez4378
      @jonahvitez4378 4 роки тому +2

      You know what you are right about Rockstar the guy happened to thing to not make sense like Grand Theft Auto Liberty City Stories JD looks like Lester from Grand Theft Auto V kind of like I'm not saying that they're the same but they kind of look alike kind of

    • @seantheman1886
      @seantheman1886 4 роки тому +1

      Great vid

    • @CJKNOWZ
      @CJKNOWZ 4 роки тому +1

      Bra ya GTA 4 is the weirdest rockstar logic game ever

    • @lintoantony__1349
      @lintoantony__1349 4 роки тому

      Gta san andreas has the best gta logics ever

    • @daimokaiketsu850
      @daimokaiketsu850 4 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/dI8g6N4zRZQ/v-deo.html you Forgot to mention about El Burro from Gta 3 appearing in Gta 1 but they not the same character

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall 4 роки тому +167

    It’s funny how when you’re playing the games, you don’t really think too deeply into these details all that much. It’s only afterward, when you take a step back and think of some of these things you realize how some of the things in the games don’t make much sense. Cool video Zac.

  • @rojax_thevoicetm2385
    @rojax_thevoicetm2385 4 роки тому +139

    The reason Niko fires 12 rounds is for all 12 members of his unit that died.

    • @Kurty94
      @Kurty94 4 роки тому +26

      All he had to do, was to reload the damn pistol!

    • @Retroist2024
      @Retroist2024 4 роки тому +2

      @King David you can't mod weapons in GTA 4, though

    • @Savantastic
      @Savantastic 4 роки тому +1

      @@Khadafi_1986 oh yeah i forgot that normal/stock have more 9 bullet then desert that have just 9 but niko shoot it 12 without reload

    • @Doopus
      @Doopus 3 роки тому

      @@Khadafi_1986 thank you louise

    • @Kurty94
      @Kurty94 3 роки тому

      @Hungry Soul Gaming I think it would be audible tho

  • @soovi4522
    @soovi4522 4 роки тому +85

    I was born ugly, and got a makeover. Explain rockstar.

  • @InternetRob
    @InternetRob 4 роки тому +10

    In GTA IV, you can see Roman's apartment and cab depot on TV, lit up on fire before it's even happened.

  • @MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz
    @MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz 4 роки тому +81

    Rockstar Logic once again!

    • @ThatGuySarabia
      @ThatGuySarabia 4 роки тому +3

      You are the Justin Y. of Rockstar Community!!

    • @badreedinedjellali1328
      @badreedinedjellali1328 3 роки тому

      same thing happened in red dead redemption when I shoot the strange man he rune off and he dead and when john marston shoots him he was buillt proof now i have more questions than answers about the strange man

    • @msgvs1618
      @msgvs1618 3 роки тому +2

      Like your profile picture, forgot his name but hes from Midnight Club L.A. Childhood game 😎

  • @Mikeyboy24526
    @Mikeyboy24526 4 роки тому +26

    In GTA 3 how the characters know that Claude isn't talking

    • @Retroist2024
      @Retroist2024 4 роки тому +5

      they were introduced to Claude by others.

  • @Rucy_Ramone
    @Rucy_Ramone 4 роки тому +22

    The bridges are all open when you start playing The Lost and Damned so that’s why Niko is on Alderney island.

    • @callumstark4172
      @callumstark4172 4 роки тому +8

      That's incorrect. Play GTA IV and get to the mission where you sell drugs with Johnny and Playboy X in Broker but it is an ambush. That's the first mission Niko can enter Algonquin and replay TLAD. Johnny first mission with Elizabeta is the same mission.

    • @mr.buttler1649
      @mr.buttler1649 2 роки тому

      The islands of Lost and damned, ballad of gay tony, chinatown wars are unlocked in the beginning of game.

    • @AudraBurgess
      @AudraBurgess 2 роки тому +2

      The beginning of TLaD takes place before Jason Michaels dies. Which means Niko is still working for Fauston and Dimitri so the bridges aren't open yet.

  • @MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz
    @MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz 4 роки тому +77

    RIP James "Jim" Fitzgerald

    • @vicvega24
      @vicvega24 4 роки тому +3

      @DogZzA and he won't reply to you😂😂

    • @Loves-hd9lv
      @Loves-hd9lv 4 роки тому +2

      @DogZzA No he is not, Just a tryhard.

    • @coolthefool1
      @coolthefool1 4 роки тому +2

      Why do I keep seeing this guy

    • @ThatGuySarabia
      @ThatGuySarabia 4 роки тому +1

      YOU ARE EVERYWHERE!!! SERIOUSLY YOU ARE THE JUSTIN Y. OF ROCKSTAR COMMUNITY!!!

    • @galilalexandro4793
      @galilalexandro4793 4 роки тому +1

      James would of killed Trevor

  • @SplaashKing2000
    @SplaashKing2000 4 роки тому +68

    Little Timmy still in the corner until he hits puberty

  • @thespongesucc
    @thespongesucc 4 роки тому +12

    0:00
    Tommy:time to go outside
    *starts raining*
    Tommy:NvM

  • @Zypher.
    @Zypher. 4 роки тому +19

    Maybe they thought they killed Jim but didn't, they mistaken him for another Lost biker. Because thats obviously not Jim.

    • @seanrogers212
      @seanrogers212 4 роки тому +4

      I always thought that too, I imagined Jim walked off into the Sunset unlike the others

    • @crystalprivette7853
      @crystalprivette7853 3 роки тому +1

      R* confirmed that it's Jim

  • @MaddSmoke
    @MaddSmoke 4 роки тому +5

    you inspire me Zac 🙏
    *thank you.*

  • @TonyG8992
    @TonyG8992 4 роки тому +3

    5:00 Is the reason why i think Claude is NOT mute. She says " he doesn't talk much" instead of "doesn't talk at all".
    In my opinion, he speaks.

    • @ryanhutchinson4467
      @ryanhutchinson4467 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, Claude can definitely talk, but he only does it off-screen.

  • @bubblemonkeys
    @bubblemonkeys 4 роки тому +41

    He pulled a reverse Michael Jackson
    Said it first deal with it

  • @alifnajmi1997
    @alifnajmi1997 3 роки тому +2

    GTA IV's Jim model was used as The Unnamed Biker in GTA IV and until this day I don't know why Rockstar used The Unnamed Biker's model as Jim Fitzgerald in the original GTA IV

    • @ginogatash4030
      @ginogatash4030 Рік тому

      What probably happened is they maybe didn't settle for a final design in time for the release of vanilla GTA 4, after all Johnny and Luis also have different appereances in their DLCs compared to vanilla GTA 4, but they also might not have had a fully finished story for Lost and Damned and Ballad of Gay Tony when GTA 4 got released, and finished them later when they ended developed on the DLC campaigns, so at one point the guy was probably meant to be a generic biker guy but they decided later in the DLC development to replace him with a plot relevant supporting character, there was some basic planning of how the stories would intersect with each other, but not exactly how each of them would unfold outside of the bits where the stories clash.

  • @lcidd
    @lcidd 4 роки тому +2

    AYEEEE my fav gta UA-camr back at it again!!!!

  • @flo2677
    @flo2677 4 роки тому +4

    Hahaha love it when you mention little Timmy 😂

  • @WeinerJuice
    @WeinerJuice 4 роки тому +8

    Yeah I never got that either about the Jim part..like literally they look nothing alike and I was very confused that they were the same dude

    • @WeinerJuice
      @WeinerJuice 4 роки тому

      @keagan snow yeah that's what ticked me off about r*

  • @nicksaffari4412
    @nicksaffari4412 4 роки тому +1

    Good as always!

  • @iryaniedit2317
    @iryaniedit2317 4 роки тому

    I been checking out your channel recently you post some good stuff keep it up

  • @jackhodgson85
    @jackhodgson85 4 роки тому

    Great video zac

  • @donrato1245
    @donrato1245 3 роки тому +1

    Finally a youtuber that pay attention to the games, nice man, I have the same questions about gta logic!!!!

  • @Drumsti
    @Drumsti 4 роки тому

    Awesome video again!

  • @zacharyroger5947
    @zacharyroger5947 4 роки тому

    Love the vid bro bro honestly

  • @MEGALODONGERS
    @MEGALODONGERS 4 роки тому +1

    Another inconsistency is the way Jerry Kapowitz found the diamonds. In GTA IV, he's stated as finding them in the dump (after they were tossed into a dump truck). However, at the end of GTA TBOGT, he finds them in a knocked-over trash can in Meadows Park.

    • @davidg1612
      @davidg1612 4 роки тому

      Yeah. It's like they hired a different team of writers for the DLCs that knew nothing about the main story.

  • @maorzahavi2594
    @maorzahavi2594 4 роки тому

    Great video!
    A lot of things I didn't notice in GTA....🤙

  • @aaronbowen9962
    @aaronbowen9962 4 роки тому

    Hi zac thanks for uploading have a good day

  • @tyballamusic
    @tyballamusic 4 роки тому

    Great video brooo

  • @bigdrip3092
    @bigdrip3092 4 роки тому +21

    He could have possible reloaded when he shot those first 4 bullets

    • @csm5040
      @csm5040 3 роки тому

      That’s what I think every time they mention that scene

  • @Nayops23
    @Nayops23 4 роки тому

    5:35
    Love playing GTA Vice City ever since it came out to this day❗️👏🏼

  • @SpookyGhostLad
    @SpookyGhostLad 4 роки тому +2

    The moment people learn that nothing on UA-cam is 100% original this will be a lot smoother

  • @garrysmith1029
    @garrysmith1029 4 роки тому +1

    Don't forget that one mission for Liz in GTA iv and lost and damned I forgot what it was called but chronically it makes no since. I think it's something like toll where Elizabeth gets arrested before that mission. It's only available after Bully gets arrested and Billy gets arrested after three lead clover. Niko can't do that because he hasn't done snow storm.

  • @j4cks0n94
    @j4cks0n94 4 роки тому

    Hey Zac! Good video, just wondering how can I get that yellow and blue car with back spoilers in your GTA LCS cutscene, cause as far as I'm concerned, there was no car with spoilers in that game. Your videos are great btw, keep up the good work!

  • @xAdorNexasYT
    @xAdorNexasYT 3 роки тому

    Love the cancer awement sign behind ya on the right

  • @SupportGamin2024
    @SupportGamin2024 4 роки тому +21

    rockstar has a history of making continuity errors,Jim in gta 4 is suppose to be the same man from TLAD that Niko killed,originally before the DLC's came out,the lost biker gang,all looked like a stereotypical all white biker gang.

    • @dylanzrim1011
      @dylanzrim1011 4 роки тому

      SupportGaming 2020 I think they just used the wrong name in the article

    • @exquize1660
      @exquize1660 2 роки тому

      they didn't foresee the futur design or the future stories of these characters when they made these models for the nicko story, there was a will to do story DLC but nothing was fixed, until when the focus was on supporting those secondary characters, they a lso gain experience and an understanding of the engine, what you see as a player that say it's continuity errors so it's abnormal is understandable from a video game developer point of view and work, it's incremental, and going back will be a waste of money and man/hours works... some are just design choice like the 12 shots and don't aim necessarly to realism but more to symbolism, but i guess the dramatic pause was for the reload but they didn't put the animation for constraint or not (just symbol).
      you'll never find perfect continuity in fiction cross story for big media like this one, gta or not, when your story is +1000 pages, and +200 people working on it, plot hole will always occur.

  • @J-Money203
    @J-Money203 4 роки тому +2

    Yessssssss so true Zac 100% i always wondered why that happens in GTA

  • @smes_4205
    @smes_4205 4 роки тому +1

    I have been playing GTA for a while and its crazy that I didn’t catch on to these details. You have a good eye for things.

    • @endureshanta4805
      @endureshanta4805 4 роки тому +1

      And those ears

    • @TPJH850
      @TPJH850 4 роки тому

      There's other GTA UA-camrs who made videos about this stuff ages ago dude

  • @jotarokujo3887
    @jotarokujo3887 3 роки тому

    Everytime I watch your videos I can't stop keep up the great content you are easily my fav GTA youtuber

  • @collencarabajal8075
    @collencarabajal8075 4 роки тому

    Another great video. Amazing

  • @rickd3777
    @rickd3777 4 роки тому

    2:56 the blue and yellow car’s livery is the same as Beijing Taxi...... I guess that’s what you call the fastest taxi in town!

  • @thatonekideveryonehates9933
    @thatonekideveryonehates9933 4 роки тому +1

    "Little Timmy, go sit in timeout."

  • @acespades81official16
    @acespades81official16 4 роки тому +3

    Rockstar is high, anyways, thanks for the birthday wish on Instagram tho, truly appreciate it

  • @fluffyflufffox1385
    @fluffyflufffox1385 4 роки тому +7

    5:16 yo Zach is it weird that she almost sounds like Mallorie?

  • @funnyfarmband4410
    @funnyfarmband4410 4 роки тому +3

    4:21 he obviously picks that one up.

  • @coltgun876
    @coltgun876 2 роки тому

    I also realized the Miguel shot in '98 plot hole however I think he technically passed out from a bullet wound and was sent to the hospital to get patched up. Even though the gameplay mechanics do make it seem that you straight up shoot him up. Whats funny is that you can chop his head off with a katana which would literally create a time paradox.

  • @hqcf
    @hqcf 4 роки тому +1

    The beginning of GTA IV precedes the beginning of TLAD, which means Niko could be in Alderney. Remember, TLAD is approx 1/3 the length of IV in terms of number of missions

    • @jetcrosofz1987
      @jetcrosofz1987 Рік тому +1

      When the lost and damned begins, Niko has just started working for mikhail Faustin, because in the third TLAD mission they find out that Jason was killed, which happens in a Faustin mission

  • @saintsrow14life
    @saintsrow14life 4 роки тому

    Talking about gta with saints row 2 music in the background,kinda funny lol

  • @stephensosa9799
    @stephensosa9799 4 роки тому

    I love your videos :0

  • @timofey00001
    @timofey00001 4 роки тому +4

    Hey Zachary, I miss the way that you're playing in GTA, pal.

  • @alexcallan07
    @alexcallan07 4 роки тому +2

    Rockstar is the smartest company ever

  • @thezohan6274
    @thezohan6274 4 роки тому

    Proud of you Zac for giving up the crack

  • @nolimitkhris9598
    @nolimitkhris9598 4 роки тому

    U told little Timmy to go sit in timeout. Now that Mr.Cox, earned urself a like 👍🏽💀

  • @joselemus961
    @joselemus961 4 роки тому +7

    go sit in time out overthere-zacCox

  • @Z712ar
    @Z712ar 4 роки тому

    It’s nice that u have the zombies perk bottles maybe u shld make a zombies videos we might like it and u have nothing to lose

  • @justsomebloke460
    @justsomebloke460 4 роки тому

    0:08 makes you wonder why Tommy's rivals didn't just throw buckets of water at him

  • @WeinerJuice
    @WeinerJuice 4 роки тому +1

    Gta 4 will always be my childhood game besides fallout and rdr

  • @kngrc7272
    @kngrc7272 4 роки тому

    Zac, dude. If u pay attention to the dialoges, you'll undrestand that Tommy gave the guy that SMG

  • @daniyalahmed6662
    @daniyalahmed6662 4 роки тому

    hey dude remember i once asked (on twitter) you to play MIDNIGHT CLUB II .... any progress on that ????

  • @nicholassmith41
    @nicholassmith41 3 роки тому

    I know why Miguel was in GTA 3, because he wasn't killed in Liberty City Stories which takes place in 1998, and GTA 3 takes place in 2001

  • @NW1_1
    @NW1_1 4 роки тому

    Nice video

  • @bobbyserrano3872
    @bobbyserrano3872 4 роки тому

    I don't know if you noticed but there was another character with the same design in that cutscene with Johnny and Jim

  • @mvpstudios5799
    @mvpstudios5799 4 роки тому

    Nice saints row 2 theme music playing in the background

  • @bz_animations
    @bz_animations 4 роки тому +2

    Magel did a Michael on us

  • @senshi1518
    @senshi1518 4 роки тому

    Zac is a goooooooood

  • @Fast_reflex97
    @Fast_reflex97 4 роки тому +17

    6:58 niko probably practiced fire rounds when he was young apart before he was in the sea merchant navy and niko quickly withdraw his shot on darko as it might have bee semiautomatic

    • @OhYouMusty
      @OhYouMusty 4 роки тому +2

      12 shots for his 12 fallen comrades.

  • @carbis439
    @carbis439 4 роки тому

    I love how you were more focused on 12 rounds being shot when the thing that stands out to me is that he survived 11 shots to the upper body.

    • @OhYouMusty
      @OhYouMusty 4 роки тому

      He didn’t survive all those shots your nerves can still function for a while after death

    • @carbis439
      @carbis439 4 роки тому

      @@OhYouMusty
      That's true, but not in the way we saw him moving in the cut scene.
      I guess it's a game though, so I'm not that bothered.

  • @jayreefer3867
    @jayreefer3867 4 роки тому

    Its crazy how you got the saints row 2 pause music

  • @zubaer9502
    @zubaer9502 4 роки тому

    how many gaming cds you have?

  • @MrPretzel6000
    @MrPretzel6000 4 роки тому +4

    8:47 the one on the right looks like jim

    • @csm5040
      @csm5040 3 роки тому +1

      7:52 Yet back here it doesn’t look like him at all

    • @MrPretzel6000
      @MrPretzel6000 3 роки тому

      @@csm5040 yeah it’s so weird

  • @KolbyHawkins
    @KolbyHawkins 3 роки тому

    you get a like for the "spread cheese on a broke cracker" line alone

  • @arandomcarlover6009
    @arandomcarlover6009 4 роки тому

    Which car was that at 2:36 ?? I've played GTA LCS and never encountered that car!!

  • @godzillapunisher9912
    @godzillapunisher9912 3 роки тому

    I was just thinking about something. You know how the alderney bridge is out at the begininng of GTA 4. I just thought maybe that's an easter egg to GTA 3. Remember the bomb. It was just a thought.

  • @seanzenarosa9541
    @seanzenarosa9541 4 роки тому

    Why does the news article remind me of the GTA San andreas mission "wrong side of the tracks"?

  • @lucariothehorrorguy5641
    @lucariothehorrorguy5641 2 роки тому

    The beard guy in the thumbnail looks like that one dude from WWE eating Chips

  • @putinusername
    @putinusername 4 роки тому

    If only mrbossftw made content like this i wouldn't hate hin so much

  • @joshflynn2173
    @joshflynn2173 4 роки тому +2

    7:00 Also how is that guy still standing after bloody 5 bullets!?!? Its like hes getting shot by a paintball gun.

    • @fruitytuesdays3369
      @fruitytuesdays3369 4 роки тому

      Josh Flynn you’d be surprised what people can withstand as an EMT that’s actually pretty accurate in some cases. Seen people shot up to 15 times and still be able to call 911 and stand up , just pure luck on the vitals honestly

    • @endureshanta4805
      @endureshanta4805 4 роки тому

      @@fruitytuesdays3369 yeah its really incredible that are bodys can do that.

  • @emanuelespinoza9325
    @emanuelespinoza9325 4 роки тому

    What about when The Ballad of Gay Tony starts and then you have the mission Chinese Takeout? Or even Elizabeta's role in The Lost and Damned and how long before her arrest those missions took place? I'm talking about the mission where you going to take Manny's body somewhere.

    • @OhYouMusty
      @OhYouMusty 4 роки тому

      The dlcs take place the same time as iv it’s a connected story

  • @TonyG8992
    @TonyG8992 4 роки тому

    I like to pretend that Jim in GTA IV was killed offscreen by Niko, I make up useless excuses. LMAO

  • @antoniokontos5677
    @antoniokontos5677 3 роки тому

    Haven't watched a video by you since GTA V was new

  •  2 роки тому

    They contradict the universe by not including the three islands from part 3 in 4 and not merging the 3D and HD universes together but other 3D universe characters are mentioned in HD universe

  • @livivindle9912
    @livivindle9912 4 роки тому

    7:02 the camera goes of niko, so maybe niko reloaded.

  • @Obe_omer
    @Obe_omer 3 роки тому

    The only thing that doesn't make sense that gta 6 didn't announced yet

  • @stqlis
    @stqlis 4 роки тому

    Zac logic: puts saints row 2 theme music in a gta video (:

  • @canweget100subswithoutavid9
    @canweget100subswithoutavid9 4 роки тому

    Best you tuber!

  • @niranx_yt7084
    @niranx_yt7084 4 роки тому +2

    Looks like when these mistakes were made, rockstar was on crack or something

  • @zachperez2402
    @zachperez2402 4 роки тому

    What about rdr2 how did they do the ferry robbery in blackwater but then end up riding in from colter in the beginning of the story but yet never been to strawberry or valentine ??

  • @incensedloki9108
    @incensedloki9108 4 роки тому +8

    How do you upload so fast?😂😂

  • @Memoquin
    @Memoquin 4 роки тому

    Is that some kind of PC mod version of GTA LCS? I’ve never seen that car with the yellow spoiler before.

  • @Leonshadowss
    @Leonshadowss 4 роки тому

    Niko probably just flew a helicopter and jumped out

  • @benjamintoybonniephillips8018
    @benjamintoybonniephillips8018 3 роки тому

    I love how yoy didn't notice that the number 5 isn't a plot hole but a gameplay balance.

  • @ryak2
    @ryak2 4 роки тому

    The subliminal message to smoke Marlboro Reds because of that sign... All I could think about was smoking Marlboro Reds while watching 80s racing when Marlboro special sponsored everything cool like Nike, redbull, rolex, and underarmour do.

  • @harrysworld8730
    @harrysworld8730 3 роки тому

    Kill fib agent : 2 stars Kill architect : 3 stars. Kill cop : 3 stars They didn’t know Steve Haines was corrupt though

  • @davidempey8980
    @davidempey8980 4 роки тому

    i remember when i heard tommy vercetti looks like claude speed. but older

  • @gandalainsley6467
    @gandalainsley6467 4 роки тому

    there is explanations for how the protagonists does not know how to swim and why there are no bikes in gta 3 , supposedly in vice city there are lot of sharks , that is why nobody can swim , in gta 3 water is so unclean that its dangerous and there are no bikes in gta 3 because of some law that banned them , i remember i read it somewhere long time ago but i dont remember where

  • @CH-hn2rj
    @CH-hn2rj 4 роки тому +1

    I think that GTA UA-camrs don't realize that some people can't swim.

    • @endureshanta4805
      @endureshanta4805 4 роки тому +1

      @CG1 Shady oh so he's like john marston then !

  • @Vickysqueeze
    @Vickysqueeze 4 роки тому

    another thing that makes no sense is I fruit radio in gta 5 single player because gta 5 single player is still set in 2013 unlike online where its 2019 and actually makes sense

  • @KeeksSnoogie79
    @KeeksSnoogie79 4 роки тому +1

    I thought miguel was wounded and survived when Tony shot him and thats how he was still able to be in GTA III or am I wrong?

  • @kuhlapse
    @kuhlapse 4 роки тому +1

    darko's death was scripted for the glock not the deagle

  • @rezjxjs7548
    @rezjxjs7548 4 роки тому +1

    New sub