Thank you! I will remove the quilt box and put the inner cover back on. I was so excited that you actually answered my question. For those visiting this video, David is the best!
11/13/2022 Sunday. My husband and I live in North East Ohio. (Football Hall of Fame city) We were excited and nervous to receive our first nuc in May of this year 2022. By June they swarmed. Thankfully my husband captured it and now we have two hives. We have been reading and watching bee videos since November of 2021. We have found that your videos are the best!!! You are an excellent teacher. The right amount of enthusiasm combined with discipline. We are experiencing our first real cold weather. This week it will be in the 40’s during the day and 20’s at night We have been feeding the sugar water with the added vitamins and protein per your teaching. We stopped a couple of days ago. We have made some candy boards and are going to insert them come December. Right? We have concerns about the swarm hive (#2) It may not have enough stores. Should we put the candy on sooner? YES we are making a purchase of your Ultimate Beekeeping Course come Black Friday Thank you again so much!!!! Keep the videos coming!!! GnM
I am using both candy board and quilt box. I made my candy board with a long narrow open slot in the middle of the hard candy for bees to go up and down, also let extra moisture going through, and have the quilt box set on top of the candy board. They worked really well for the last 3 winters in MA.
David, i have had success getting rid of the moisture by using the burlap cloth to wick it out. I lay the burlap so that corners of the cloth stick out under the top cover but not so far as to extend beyond the edge of the cover where rain or snow could touch it. The burlap absorbs the moisture and is pulled towards the edges where it can evaporate. If i need more evaporation i increase the length of the cloth extending outside. I went this route so as to not open a gap for small hive beetles or to let out the warm air which can happen with spacers. I also use shims to raise one side of my hive about ten degrees so that moisture beading up on a horizontal surface will run downslope to the side and down to my screened board and out and not drip directly down on my girls. I keep my screened board closed about 90 percent to conserve heat, minimize drafts (my hive is elevated on two beams between cinder blocks), and to provide ventilation. The opening is directly below the hive entrance so as to not create excessive air movement. I know you have done a lot of experimentation over the years. Have you tested the methods I am using? Am I off base? Do I need to make changes?
Love watching your videos. Coffee time is a favorite. You are my go to online bee master. Hoping to meet you in January at the 2023 Bee Conference in East Tennessee. Keep up the great work. Hi to your wife also.
David, great videos and purchased classes. I use empty honey super above your Burn's feeding system board which I have several 1 inch vents in with 1/8 inch hardware cloth covering. It vents the moisture and keeps bees, wasps, etc. out. I am in Michigan.
Hey david, I really like this idea, opposed to using nickels to prop up the inner cover--remember heat rises and heat in the most valuable thing to see your bees through the winter. Don't let it out, but I do like this moisture trick. 🤣
Thank you David for remind me about this I do have a Vivaldi board and I use burlock material and I have to put nickel under the cover like you say that’s a good reminder are used to do that. For some reason I forgot this year.
Excellent and timely information as always. Keep the up close and personal look at at bee keeping your way and not what is in the prevailing blowing in the wind of ideas. Need your professional help answering the multitude of questions correctly. Thanks
I wasn't able to get my quilt box on before our temperature dropped this weekend. This is almost exactly what I decided to do until we get a break in the weather. I just added cedar shavings, though, instead of burlap.
@@beek I didn't know you were into all that stuff. I do astrophotography as a hobby. If you can get me an email address or something I'd love to share some of my photos with you ive captured
Hey David, Thanks for your videos! I’m wondering if I could store frames of honey in the box with the burlap? I didn’t get to harvest the honey and not sure how to keep these through the winter. What are your thoughts?
Gluing popsicle sticks near the four corners at the top edge of the upper box and making sure the outer cover has equal gaps between the sides of the cover and the box, is another simple solution for allowing water vapor to gently waft out of the hive. Keep it simple!
Hey David. Great video I put the candy board on and then the quilt box on top is that a bad idea? Also I’m using burlap but I don’t think it’s good grade is that bad? I live in Ohio and it’s cold here thank you. God Bless.
I would prob put the nickels on the front to create a slope to the back. Any moisture goes that direction, in addition any snow melt or rain / ice will move that way too. You still get the flow, but now you control the flow. In my area, I actually use my insulative wrap to create that airflow.
Hey David thanks for this video. Question: I made candy boards about 2.5 inches thick and they're rock hard. Sitting on top of the frames (super) then on top of that a quilt box using pine shavings. So I shouldn't have the quilt box???
Burlap is a very poor insulator. After it becomes damp it acts as a wet blanket: ceases to insulate at all and starts conducting heat away from the colony. Providing upper ventilation allows valuable heat to freely flow out of the hive and away from the colony by way of the stack effect. A far better solution is to put a solid layer of XPS foam above the colony and provide no upper vents/entrances. Moisture is not a problem that requires solving if you keep the surfaces above the colony above the dew point. This is accomplished by insulating and conserving heat.
That's why I referred to it IF people cannot place a candy board on their hive. It's fine in a pinch, and most people change out their wet "quilts" but certainly candy sitting on insulation as with our winter-bee-kind boards is the best in my opinion to absorb excess moisture.
if i use a candy board and leave a honey super ( may be overkill) do I put the candy board on top honey super or between brood box and honey super? I am in NorthWest cold winters lots of snow and single digit days. this is my first winter with bees.
Would say to drill holes in coins and nail them down so there's no chance of them falling off. The hessian sack material is great acting like a curtain. I leave a small window open in my bedroom with curtains closed in winter and not only sleep better but window has far less condensation. My Grandfather used to keep calves in a pen in a barn. He was always careful to keep draught out but whilst maintaining good roof ventilation. This was because with all the re-breathing of calves if they had poor ventilation, this would cause pneumonia and lead to death. Another thing he said was seed corn when planted was similar to humans ~ it didn't like a wet bed! Feel bees are the same and should be treated like any other animal and guarded from the cold but importantly be well ventilated to allow fresh air to flush out old to keep healthy...
@@beek Thx. It is interesting . A 4 years ago I inserted 5 digital probes into the nest and ran a data logger. Together with visual observations, I noticed that the bees could feed on syrup in temps -4deg f. I live in NH. Since then, I design my hives to have this central hole above the hive where they can travel up the thermal column and feed. The hive also has an upper entrance. Seems to work, especially for small colonies. I haven’t lost a hive yet! I do like your candy board concept. Great for absorbing moisture. Enjoy watching your channel too. Good instruction.
bees need some water ,tip your hive,excess runs out,dont vent off precious heat ,theyll just eat more to keep trying to stay warm,keep warm humid air,less stress
Thank you! I will remove the quilt box and put the inner cover back on. I was so excited that you actually answered my question. For those visiting this video, David is the best!
Thank you for making your videos. They are well produced and organized. Your videos are very educational and entertaining as in funny 😄 sometimes.
11/13/2022 Sunday.
My husband and I live in North East Ohio. (Football Hall of Fame city)
We were excited and nervous to receive our first nuc in May of this year 2022. By June they swarmed. Thankfully my husband captured it and now we have two hives.
We have been reading and watching bee videos since November of 2021. We have found that your videos are the best!!! You are an excellent teacher. The right amount of enthusiasm combined with discipline.
We are experiencing our first real cold weather. This week it will be in the 40’s during the day and 20’s at night We have been feeding the sugar water with the added vitamins and protein per your teaching. We stopped a couple of days ago. We have made some candy boards and are going to insert them come December. Right?
We have concerns about the swarm hive (#2) It may not have enough stores. Should we put the candy on sooner?
YES we are making a purchase of your Ultimate Beekeeping Course come Black Friday
Thank you again so much!!!! Keep the videos coming!!!
GnM
Great tips, David. Thanks for the timely video. Here's to good conditions in our hives! 🐝💖🐝
Namaste ...Many Blessings in the Light of the New Earth...A'Ho!! 🙏
Dave is the best. UA-cam should be proud of your high quality videos. Very enthusiastic and knowledgeable content.
Thank you Mike 🏆
I am using both candy board and quilt box. I made my candy board with a long narrow open slot in the middle of the hard candy for bees to go up and down, also let extra moisture going through, and have the quilt box set on top of the candy board. They worked really well for the last 3 winters in MA.
You are a true citizen scientist!
David, i have had success getting rid of the moisture by using the burlap cloth to wick it out. I lay the burlap so that corners of the cloth stick out under the top cover but not so far as to extend beyond the edge of the cover where rain or snow could touch it. The burlap absorbs the moisture and is pulled towards the edges where it can evaporate. If i need more evaporation i increase the length of the cloth extending outside. I went this route so as to not open a gap for small hive beetles or to let out the warm air which can happen with spacers.
I also use shims to raise one side of my hive about ten degrees so that moisture beading up on a horizontal surface will run downslope to the side and down to my screened board and out and not drip directly down on my girls. I keep my screened board closed about 90 percent to conserve heat, minimize drafts (my hive is elevated on two beams between cinder blocks), and to provide ventilation. The opening is directly below the hive entrance so as to not create excessive air movement.
I know you have done a lot of experimentation over the years. Have you tested the methods I am using? Am I off base? Do I need to make changes?
Love watching your videos. Coffee time is a favorite. You are my go to online bee master. Hoping to meet you in January at the 2023 Bee Conference in East Tennessee. Keep up the great work. Hi to your wife also.
Yup, lots of people asking for coffee time again.
David, great videos and purchased classes. I use empty honey super above your Burn's feeding system board which I have several 1 inch vents in with 1/8 inch hardware cloth covering. It vents the moisture and keeps bees, wasps, etc. out. I am in Michigan.
Great tip!
Hey david, I really like this idea, opposed to using nickels to prop up the inner cover--remember heat rises and heat in the most valuable thing to see your bees through the winter. Don't let it out, but I do like this moisture trick. 🤣
Thank you David for remind me about this I do have a Vivaldi board and I use burlock material and I have to put nickel under the cover like you say that’s a good reminder are used to do that. For some reason I forgot this year.
Vivaldi boards are already vented.
Excellent and timely information as always. Keep the up close and personal look at at bee keeping your way and not what is in the prevailing blowing in the wind of ideas. Need your professional help answering the multitude of questions correctly.
Thanks
Great Job David! Enjoy watching your videos, Only 700 SUBSCRIBERS to get to 100,000!!!! God bless you and your bees!
Thanks!
Thanks so much Liz for the Super Thanks!!
david i use a deep box filled with pine/cedar shavings with a winter lid and had good success in foothills of california. temp nite are in hi 20's
Good plan, and thank you for being a loyal subscriber for 3 years!!
I wasn't able to get my quilt box on before our temperature dropped this weekend. This is almost exactly what I decided to do until we get a break in the weather. I just added cedar shavings, though, instead of burlap.
You are a true citizen scientist.
Great information. I ordered 4 candy boards in August and have 2 from last year to fill. Thanks for everything.
Thank you Christine
Hi David nice idea with the sacks. We have got something similar here in NZ it's could a hive nappy made from Marino wool it's about 8mm thick.
Great vid as always. I want that NASA beanie!
Yup, Artemis 1 took off this morning! The Orion's capsule is heading for the moon.
@@beek I didn't know you were into all that stuff. I do astrophotography as a hobby. If you can get me an email address or something I'd love to share some of my photos with you ive captured
I’ll be buying the course on Black Friday!!!
Thanks Rob, I appreciate your support.
35 f is a heat wave here in Canada, hahaha , only5 today but great idea
Hey David,
Thanks for your videos! I’m wondering if I could store frames of honey in the box with the burlap? I didn’t get to harvest the honey and not sure how to keep these through the winter. What are your thoughts?
I store mine by freezing them first, then keeping them in a low humidity room that's bug free.
Gluing popsicle sticks near the four corners at the top edge of the upper box and making sure the outer cover has equal gaps between the sides of the cover and the box, is another simple solution for allowing water vapor to gently waft out of the hive. Keep it simple!
Hey David. Great video I put the candy board on and then the quilt box on top is that a bad idea? Also I’m using burlap but I don’t think it’s good grade is that bad? I live in Ohio and it’s cold here thank you. God Bless.
I answered your question in a video: ua-cam.com/video/ZNQH1UTIx_c/v-deo.html
I would prob put the nickels on the front to create a slope to the back. Any moisture goes that direction, in addition any snow melt or rain / ice will move that way too. You still get the flow, but now you control the flow. In my area, I actually use my insulative wrap to create that airflow.
You are a true citizen scientist!
Did I miss where you put the candy board? CanI use both the feeder & candy board?
👍
Hi David! I did not get as much sugar water 1:1 this fall and concerned. Should I use the Candi boards I purchased from you early?
Hey David thanks for this video. Question: I made candy boards about 2.5 inches thick and they're rock hard. Sitting on top of the frames (super) then on top of that a quilt box using pine shavings. So I shouldn't have the quilt box???
Usually the candy board takes the place of a quilt box in absorbing the moisture.
I can see where wrapping the hive could reduce condensation by keeping the sides of the hive warmer and above the condensation temp.
You are a true citizen scientist!
You’re awesome.
Thank you Patty, and you are awesome for being a subscriber and watching for over a year!
I like to know if you've known anybody to use damprid for the humidity levels inside a hive
Burlap is a very poor insulator. After it becomes damp it acts as a wet blanket: ceases to insulate at all and starts conducting heat away from the colony. Providing upper ventilation allows valuable heat to freely flow out of the hive and away from the colony by way of the stack effect.
A far better solution is to put a solid layer of XPS foam above the colony and provide no upper vents/entrances.
Moisture is not a problem that requires solving if you keep the surfaces above the colony above the dew point. This is accomplished by insulating and conserving heat.
That's why I referred to it IF people cannot place a candy board on their hive. It's fine in a pinch, and most people change out their wet "quilts" but certainly candy sitting on insulation as with our winter-bee-kind boards is the best in my opinion to absorb excess moisture.
if i use a candy board and leave a honey super ( may be overkill) do I put the candy board on top honey super or between brood box and honey super? I am in NorthWest cold winters lots of snow and single digit days. this is my first winter with bees.
Candy board goes above all boxes including any supers.
David I know you're coming to Hive Life 2023, You wouldn't happen to be bringing any goods to sell would you, like your winter be kind boards?
I really doubt it, as we have been sold out for quite some time.
Would say to drill holes in coins and nail them down so there's no chance of them falling off. The hessian sack material is great acting like a curtain.
I leave a small window open in my bedroom with curtains closed in winter and not only sleep better but window has far less condensation.
My Grandfather used to keep calves in a pen in a barn. He was always careful to keep draught out but whilst maintaining good roof ventilation. This was because with all the
re-breathing of calves if they had poor ventilation, this would cause pneumonia and lead to death. Another thing he said was seed corn when planted was similar to humans ~ it didn't like a wet bed! Feel bees are the same and should be treated like any other animal and guarded from the cold but importantly be well ventilated to allow fresh air to flush out old to keep healthy...
You are a true citizen scientist!
Hi David. Have you ever had "Chalk brood"? how did you overcome?
Years ago I made an early split in the spring and yes, it came down with chalk brood. Once the weather dried out it cleaned up nicely on it's on.
I dont use upper venting
Me neither but I have sugar in a feeder and insulate the top.
If I have a screened bottom board, will my hive still moisture collected in it?
Yes it will but not near as much.
@@beek should I still use the burlap in the top with my hive alive fondant patty?
Good tips David but save your nickels and use some dollar store thumbtacks. They work great and your money can go in the bank! LOL!
Does this work for summer heat?
Yes
I’ve found that a hole in the middle creates a thermal column the bees use to stay warm and feed.
Interesting!
@@beek Thx. It is interesting . A 4 years ago I inserted 5 digital probes into the nest and ran a data logger. Together with visual observations, I noticed that the bees could feed on syrup in temps -4deg f. I live in NH. Since then, I design my hives to have this central hole above the hive where they can travel up the thermal column and feed. The hive also has an upper entrance. Seems to work, especially for small colonies. I haven’t lost a hive yet! I do like your candy board concept. Great for absorbing moisture. Enjoy watching your channel too. Good instruction.
bees need some water ,tip your hive,excess runs out,dont vent off precious heat ,theyll just eat more to keep trying to stay warm,keep warm humid air,less stress
8000 to go to 100K!
WRONG! Only 700.
@@beek YAY!
So you don’t have an inner top cover?
Hi Jill, here is the video I made on Inner Covers: ua-cam.com/video/GpbQTieOVwc/v-deo.html
Bees dontmove .... fiteres dont work