Banging his Head Against an Elevator Door After Losing to 11-Year Old Judit
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Follow MprooV on Twitter / mproovapp #agadmator Polgar notes that when she beat her first grandmaster at the age of 11, she was told that he did not take it well - going so far as to bang his head against an elevator door after losing. She doesn't specify in the interview, but the first GM she beat was the German player Lev Gutman in 1987 in a spectacular Sicilian attacking game
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Judit Polgar vs Lev Gutman
SWIFT tournament (1987), Bruxelles, rd 3
Sicilian Defense: Scheveningen. Classical Variation General (B83)
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cd4 4. Nd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6. Be2 Be7 7. O-O O-O 8. f4 a6 9. Be3 Qc7 10. a4 Nc6 11. Qe1 Nd7 12. Qg3 Bf6 13. Rad1 Rb8 14. Nc6 bc6 15. e5 de5 16. Ne4 Be7 17. f5 ef5 18. Bh6 g6 19. Rf5 Rb4 20. Bd3 f6 21. Rdf1 Re4 22. Bf8 Kf8 23. Be4 gf5 24. Bf5 Nb6 25. Bh7 Be6 26. Be4 Nd5 27. Qh4 Nf4 28. Qh8 Bg8 29. Rd1 Ne6 30. Kh1 Bd8 31. Bf5 Nd4 32. Bh3 Qf7 33. c3 Qb3 34. Qh6 Ke7 35. Rf1 Ne6 36. Qf6 Kd6 37. Be6
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now when I play chess theres a mini agadmator commentating on my head though I dont know why he's constantly saying "a bad move for "
I get the same feeling
Here comes g4
There is one in my head to... But he just says "why are you about to resign? Well... "
And when u lose or win « well it’s completly lost for »
That's weird. I always hear him say "you can play this or that and black is still fine here".
I remember one of the grandmasters referred to the child Judit Polgar as "this cute little auburn haired monster that crushes you".
lmfao
It was David Norwood (it's on her wikipedia page... always nice.)
I’ve always thought that was one of the cringiest/corniest quotes in the history of chess haha
Anatoly Karpov was kinda happy for 13 year old Magnus in the post-game interview when he got beaten by him. That's a real gentleman and a champion!
I always liked Karpov. He enjoys the game itself, rather than just using it as an ego trip like many top players.
Karpov is people's champion with a big heart.
I do like old Karpov quite a bit myself, but I wonder if he acts this way to atone for having had the upper hand in terms of support and intimidation for so long in his career with the USSR behind him against opponents like Korchnoi. Both legends imo.
I think if you lived in the USSR you had to play their game, or else. Nobody was bigger than the state and you could just 'disappear' if that was what the Party wanted. I don't think we can understand the fear of growing up in the USSR in the 1950's and 60's as Karpov did. There were few opportunities and who can blame Karpov for taking his via chess.
This is a story via my dad, from when he lived in Tbilisi, Georgia:
Karpov (in his prime) came to Georgia to play matches against many opponents at once and one of them was a friend of my dad's, who happened to be an excellent chess player. And so, Karpov walked from table to table, eventually defeating each player, until it was just my dad's friend left. A large crowd gathered and it seemed that Karpov had made a suboptimal move earlier in the match, so my dad's friend was really pushing the advantage. Eventually, Karpov hesitantly shook his opponent's hand, resigned, and walked out, looking quite upset.
I don't remember my dad's friend's name, only that he had a weird condition which caused him to fall asleep often =D.
"I'm not saying any names (because I don't want to embarrass anyone), but it was the third round of the 1987 Brussels tournament and the first GM that I had ever beaten and his initials were LG". -Judit Polgar ;)
And that's how you DON'T embarrass anyone :)
@@cinegraphics I mean, how can we bear hiding *facts* in order to avoid a subjective matter such as "embarrassing" someone else when again, we're speaking the truth?...
@@alessbritish228 yeah, you're right. But then it can spread to so many subjects. For example, can I ask you what's your opinion about the allegedly best driver of all times Lewis Hamilton and his 7 (soon to be 8) world championship titles?
“No reverse gear Judit” - brilliant😂👌🏻
That remind us "No reverse gear Rashid" XD
I believe many commentators like that name :) E.g., Mato often mentions that Judit has no reverse gear.
She played the game the way it's meant to be played, even if it meant she never reached the very top. Easily the greatest woman player of all time and a lovely lady too!
Richard Helliwell simp
I'm Hungarian,like Polgár Judit,please who see that comment,write her name correctly.
After this bishop captures on e6 move Lev Gutman resigned the game and went looking for an elevator.
And after the elevator captures, Lev resings from life
@@ibr6193 😂😂😂
I once read a story, that in a tournament around this era JP played another GrandMaster, who won their game. After the tournament, he said that this was his best game, he was really well prepared and focused, because "If you are a GM, you generally don't want to be beaten by 10 year-old girls with ponytails" :)
Lovely story. I hope it's true.
This girl's picture in the thumbnail looks like a 90's missing person photo
lol cold case picture "girl abducted in Wisconsin still missing since 1998)
Exactly bro
AAHAHAHFAHAHAHHA
That's because they use usual photos 🤷♂️
No, that was Dale Bozzio
#suggestion Do a series on Judit Polgar's rise to the top. I've only seen a couple of her games and they are truly spectacular.
Supernova
I second the suggestion. More Polgar games.
watch the brazilian channel "Xadrez Brasil". It haves a lot of the judit's games
Lev Gutman's head : sees elevator door and thinks "I'd bang that".
Lmao
How are people confused about the reaction. If you spend the better part of your life trying to master a game only to lose to an 11 year old girl I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't take it well.
Bobby Fischer?
That is the fascination of chess, however good you think you are there is always the probability you'll get hammered by a gifted 11 year old. It's a game no one can ever master fully!
Losing or losing to a female? Both are bound to happen. Dipshit couldn't stand losing to a female as if chess should be dominated by males. He reacted to the loss like a child.
I think he was more upset about losing to an 11 year old than a female. Probably would've had the same reaction if it was an 11 year old boy.
Not any of the chess players I know and these aren't even GMs
This is the second Judit Polgar's game I watch on a video today, and it is the second game that doesn't fail to make me smile. What a remarkable creature she is.
The first UA-cam channel that I don't get bored watching all the way through , Thank you
Judit polgar, the third polgar sister. Their story is a rather interesting one.
She was the most studiously dedicated of the three and reaped the rewards for her effort.
It's the Old Bobby fischer
That's my thought too. It's Bobby.
It's definitely Bobby
@@tristunalekzander5608 stfu ahahhaha
@Matuscara what is the matter
it is. he lived with the polgars for a while.
show more games played by Judit Polgar!
Thanks very much for posting, agadmator; your commentary is first rate as always! Judit is a player whose games always astonish me for their aggressiveness and confident skill. She is by far the most entertaining player ever, along with the great genius Alekhine.
Playing chess with Polgar is like juggling chainsaws.
This guy has no problem with it: ua-cam.com/video/ti3MkTt5qv4/v-deo.html
Nice comparison bruh. 😂😂
@@yadasampatidasa8690 totally crazy dude. But I bet in one of his next videos, he's got only one arm... and still juggling.
In the photo of 1.30, Judit looks like an autograph hunting child that is excited to get a picture with a grandmaster 😅❤ No wonder people underestimated her (at least when she was this young)
Bobby Fischer, of course! Nice analysis again. I know you get a ton of #suggestions, but perhaps a series on Judit Polgar at some point in the future.
I love the way he chuckles saying "I think you should know who 'this person' is." Whereas usually agadmator politely would say "and for those who just want to enjoy the show," here he implies, "wherever you are in the chess knowledge continuum, if you can't recognize Bobby Fischer, you don't quite belong here." (Playfully intended of course.)
I am able to watch one of your videos after a week since my village got poor internet connection. You don't know how happy I am right now.
Where is the village?
Thank you for the video, and also the podcast link. Having the game fresh in mind as Judit mentioned it was good, but also an interesting conversation all in all.
Thank you!
returned to playing chess with this channel. thanks :)
Lol....me too...
I did too.
me too.got back from a mini break from chess :)
Ben de :D
When you play chess, you need to *git gudman*
10/10
This isn't even the guy who banged his head. Judit specifically said in the interview that her first win against a GM was with the black pieces.
I like to imagine when Lev Gutman found out this was on the internet he banged his head against another elevator.
The BF photo was nice.
#suggestion
Top 10 world chess champions/ grandmasters blunders in tournaments
yes please
Would 100% love to see more Polgar games.
I would never bang my head to an elevator if this young lady have beaten me, i would have simply applauded her!! This is world class from her
I can understand the headbanging. She overestimated her attack, he got a decent advantage already, but couldn't find a way to avoid complications.
thanks again l'm still watching these games. good commentary. cheers.
If she was ever arrested for murder, the detective would be like "Judidit, Judit".
booo
really bad, lol
Who made a bad joke? Judit
Uff, that gringe hurts...
And her defense would be "Sorry, no reverse gear!"
Nice job, as usual. Thanks for sharing such a beautiful win by young Judit with us!
Can't underestimate kids! I nearly lost to one of my nephews -- after getting complacent having soundly defeated his two older brothers and his dad.
Great insight into Judit's playing style and as always, fascinating light thrown onto the story of chess.
I swear, Judit Polgar is like real-life Beth Harmon.
beth was definitely partially based on judit
@@SystemOfATool true... Judit and Bobby Fischer
@@sgt.brownie5392 yeah, exactly
@@sgt.brownie5392 so we can say that at 1:29, Beth Harmon is pictured.
@@leadnitrate2194 haha good one :D
The first and only game I have seen of Judit and she is already becoming one of my favorite players. Love her style.
What was truly exciting about Judit was that she was not only among the Top Ten players in the world in the 1990s, but you could watch the "live" relay of some of her games on the Internet circa 1997 I believe, and she had that fantastic, characteristic and aggressive style of play. I remember logging in to the server at work over a modem and seeing moves played and then transferring this to an actual board, and win or lose, Judit was always a very exciting player to watch. - j q t -
Not only RJF came over to play Susan, also other gm/im did. RJF can be considered as a friend, while most others are competitors or learners. Hence the Judith/Bob piccy. It reminded me about an anecdote in a dutch book, which I don't want to get into oblivion , (of Honner I believe) quoting: "As I knew that RJF and others gm visited the sisters, I went too (Jan Timman if I'm not mistaking). When it was late after midnight studying an endgame position, the sisters proposed to wake up Judith. Why? Just read: "she came sleepy downstairs, looked no more that 2 minnutes at the chessboard, and played the winning move. She went directly back to bed, not bothering if the others understood the move or not. And she was right. "
I am not a very good chess player, but played a lot on decent level in my youth. I have a question around 4:43. If you do xf4 as black and white does play Rxd7, you can also do xg3 and when white does Rxc7, black can simply play xh2. Kxh2 and then when you play Be5 you can take rook next turn. Is there anything white can do to stop that?
Love agadmator videos so much
I don't know how play chess, but every day I watch a couple of videos. Can't put a finger on why, but these are so interesting even though I hardly understand most of it. Keep up the good work!
I banged my head to the closet yesterday when I lost a beautiful game, so I really feel his pain
Very beautiful game, perfect example of defeating a Grand Master with style❤
Bobby Fisher
I fits to Gutman. I can confirm, that i saw him with my own eyes throwing a big mechanical GARDE Chessclock through the tournament room in Bad Wörishofen after a lost game in 1996 or 1997 :D. (I was a pupil back then and it was the best open in a 30 mile radius from my hometown.)
OMG !!!! WHERE'S THE DOG!!!!!!
I love these videos. I am terrible at chess but I get a lot from them as everything is explained so well.
"the power of attacking the opposing king relentlessly ..if the defence is passive and tied down.."
Probably the most beautiful game of Chess I've ever seen. and It was won by an 11 year old girl. Totally amazing.
Imagine if the elevator door opened and he fell through
I dont know why i laughed so hard at this lol
😂😂😂
May I ask you, What is your title bro? 😅😅 you explain in so excellent and in many various combination ways.
I watch your every videos since I've subscribed you, even I like to watch recommend old videos on my homepage.
Really enjoyable.
That's Robert James Fischer
Most enjoyable analysis ever. Thanks.
Judit is one of my favourite players, always going for the win, incredible player :-)
the white lines are my fav opening as white. and seeing this really amazes me. how come she could calculate all the attacking moves, but still keeping the king so safe and secure? holy! this is better than the classical games between strong GMs
My immediate reaction, "is that Bobby Fischer?!?!?!"
There should be a movie or series on Judit Polgar.
I'm binge watching your videos and I don't even play chess.. Great job dude
yess more Judit Polgar games please!!
I like how you kept the thumbnail style after having changed for a while in the Carlsen-Anand series.😆
After 25) B-h7, why not B-c5 check, 26) K-h1, Q-h7? I can see 27)R-f6ch, K-e8 28) Q-e5ch, Q-e7 but then the attack looks to me to have run its course. What am I missing?
Idk he kinda deserved that reaction with the weird way he was playing. He mustve underestimated her then went full tilt after his castle was eroded
Photo is Bobby Fischer. He actually lived with the Polgars for a period of time in their home I believe and I think Susan Polgar won several games against him, although I cannot remember if she had a plus score against him or not.
1:51 could this be a hint regarding the misterious “let me just fix that“??
._.
What to do next when 1.e4 2.c6 3.d5 4.f6...what should white play next to get some advantage ...plz help
Is that Fischer on the right in the photo?
"This is no-reverse-gear Judit!" LMAO
I find it risible that people judge chess players by their age. It's been proven time and time again that chess talent manifests at a young age. And regardless, you're not playing the person, you're playing the board.
Hi Antonio, I can buy my two first chess books (maybe even three), could you suggest me some? I’m a beginner-intermediate player, I know basic tactics (pin, fork ecc...) and some openings but I’m trash at endgame so I want to improve it
9:25 - 1. Qxf6 + Ke8 2. Qf8 #
and gutman definitely saw that
I love the fact that everytime agadmator forgets one of the players name, he sneak peeks it
It's how I roll :)
Speaking of banging your head, a friend told me this:
A man observed another man bang his head for while, then he paused, then he repeated the process of banging and pausing. So he asked him, Sir, why do you keep banging your head against the wall? And the other man answered, Because when it feels so good when I stop!
Finally understood why he bends and says 'Sorry about that' in almost every video
An experienced master is at a disadvantage when playing an equally talented youngster. The youth can study hundreds of their opponent's games to understand his playing style and fashion a strategy. The older player has much fewer games by the younger player to study, and can be surprised by unconventional play for which he is unprepared.
You could say the opposite when it comes to experience in endgame situations though, so in my mind the win is well earned. Besides, this was an age before online databases and such, it might have been difficult to find a lot of info on your opponent's games.
@@facespaz Well you are right, an experienced older player of equal skill will have a better endgame, presuming that he is not already in a losing position because the younger player surprised him earlier in the game. I disagree about the lack of databases being a problem, in fact that would help the younger player. It is much more likely that the well-known grandmaster will have his games published in printed chess magazines and books than the newcomer. This would actually magnify the advantage of being able to research the well-known player. The newcomer might not be published in paper periodicals at all.
@@JamieTransNyc I agree the top tier GMs would have ample sources with their games at that time, but I honestly have no idea to what extent that would apply to mid-tier GMs, I wasn't a player so you might be right that once you're a GM, even at that time, your games could be easily found. It would impress me if a kid showed enough resourcefulness to do this with every opponent though, and imo if the Grandmaster underestimates his opponent to a degree that s/he is left in a losing position from not taking the opening seriously, they deserve the loss.
I think is true what you say not even only on professional levels. When someone plays someone new is hard to know if one should play aggressively or with caution.
@@AI_ART_LIBRARY I suspect this is one reason when a new player bursts upon the scene they run rampant over everyone for a while. Eventually the other players learn their style, and then they start losing.
This is why someone like Kasparov is so amazing. Everyone on the planet analyzed his games, knew his style... and still could not beat him for 20 years.
Very interesting. Thank you for posting this.
seems like something out of Queen's Gambit haha
These days playing online chess has the benefit of not seeing, or in some cases, not knowing, how young your opponent is. A God-send for many as it is a very humbling (some say traumatic) to lose to an opponent who is many decades younger. If GM Lev Gutman could telescope into the future and see what Judit Polgar would achieve, he wouldn't have been so hard on himself. Credit to Lev Gutman that even today, 10th June 2021, he is actively mixing it up with other players on chess.com.
6:52 doesnt bishop e to c5 wins the bishop on h7??
After 25.Bh7 Bc5+ 26.Kh1 Qxh7 27.Rxf6+ with further checks by the white queen. I haven't worked it out completely but I think white comes out on top.
Exactly this was the first move that popped into my head. After 27.Rxf6+ 28.Ke8 and white can't give check
At 6:49, cant black play Bc5+ to pick up the light squared bishop?
Rxf6+ and Qxe5+ after this
Bobby "The God of Chess " Fischer !
Why not bishop h2 instead of rook d1 on 7:26 ?? That wins on the spot I think, am I wrong??
You mean bishop to h7! Yes, that's interesting line that wasn't mentioned...
It was lose lose for Gutman. He was either going to lose or just beat an 11 year old girl.
Chess is the game of brain not gender or age .She still won against a man who spend half his life mastering a game.
ok. So again, it was lose lose. Had Gutman won, all he did was beat an 11 year old girl. Instead he lost. Your statement doesnt refute my comment.
@@BratvaTV Winning against a 11 year old is still a win ?How would it be a loss?Like I said chess is game of mind it has nothing to do with age .
Now when I think about his winning you do make a lot sense
@@Marklee-lx7cd you gotta be kidding me. Do you not get the point?
If she beat me like that I would've had to say how in the world did you see that? You're a genius.
This lady demonstrated that there's no barrels between women and men in chess.... Instead of Elizabeth Harmon, I think it should be Judit Polgar
Not really.
After Bxh7, can't black get away with Bc5+ and then Qxh7? Or is Rxf6 too big an obstacle?
The guy for the photo challenge is Bobby Fischer.
My favourite UA-cam chess channel
1:52 OH MY GOD I NOW KNOW WHAT THOSE "SORRY ABOUT DAT"S MEAN!
I don't. I didn't notice any difference. What is the volume he's referring to?
@@rg7535 He keeps saying "sorry about that" in his videos and tilts down. Apparently he does it because the volume is too high.
Why could Bg8 takes Be6? It would prevent the follow up checkmates you talked about at the end?
I would love to see more women's chess. 🖒
Did I miss something behind Bc5+ at 6:50 followed with Kh1, Qh7, Rf6+, Ke8, Qe5+, Qe7? White is kinda forced to exchange queens and he will be 3 pawns up and with rook against knight and bishop pair which is winning for black. Also I just saw that white could play Qh5+, Kd8, Qd1+ and Kc7 where he is pretty much safe
Rip gutman
at 6:50 if black bishop moves to C5 will it not be a good move? making check and then queen attacking white bishop
When I was a teen I was defeated by a kid around that age, and I was really embarrassed and angry. Today if an eleven year old played this game against me I'd just be impressed.
I love the way agadmator says "capture capture"
Honestly if I lost to any 11 year old, boy or girl, I would feel like banging my head against something too. It's hard to come to terms with a kid beating you. Just imagine how Byrne felt when Bobby crushed him, and that was a 13 year old.
I understand your point but the idea of losing to a kid never makes someone feel good, unless it's their own kid I imagine. I don't think most people would rationalize it like this anyway, and besides that fact most 11-14 year olds aren't chess experts and are certainly not known as chess experts. This guy will just forever think "I lost to an eleven year old kid." It's a hard pill to swallow.
@Tracchofyre That's not quite true. Lot's of people pass a threshold around that time. But if they keep playing, people tend to peak in their twenties/thirties.
3:28 what about winning the exchange with Bf3 ...Qxe5, Bxa8 ...Qxe3+, Kh1 ...
Or ist that not a good position?
When u said attacking player I immediately thought of magician & u told it urself the next second
At 3:27 is Bf3 another idea? (with QxP, BxR, QxB+ winning the exchange and making knight/bishop devolopment tricky too)
Thought the exact same
At age 11 she crushed him and he even had a better position at one point. Why is it such a ego killer to lose to young players? Why wouldn't you be happy for their achievements? Or maybe it was losing to a girl that bugged him which is really silly too. Crushed his ego she did!!
it is a really old Buddhist point of view: being happy for the merits of others.
if you say in the voice of Yoda it sounds better.
virtue signaling?
Its normal. Even Kasparov was embarrased because he got a draw from Magnus. He was clearly just doing that because he realized his mistakes
Hein MT the point really goes over your head huh? Damn Social Justic Warriors
In the photo of 1.30, Judit looks like an autograph hunting child that is excited to get a picture with a grandmaster 😅❤ No wonder people underestimated her (at least when she was this young)