Whats likely happening is two fold. ONE, companies will take any hint of a story that would put people off from obtaining roms they're not selling emulations of themselves. The second is that there are a lot of crap micro SD cards out there that are holding the data. Over time you'll notice things like even smart phones just so happening to get parts of photos taken corrupted over time. Seemingly for no reason. Not from drops, not from anything un usual at all. Fact of the matter is, many micro SD cards, as said, are just simply less and less reliable over time, especially if they're made by SanDisc. People will sing their praises regularly, but as such many stores are not buying them to sell because they're truly the best, it's what they could get for prices and stats people will buy. Kind of like what NVIDIA and EVGA have done regularly to sell more GPU's rather than having the actual stability or longevity. Sadly in a nut shell, more and more technology has become a hit or miss thing. Still, I kind of like that these ROMs exist. It's my belief that if your game is over a decade old, and you've done nothing to make it available again, or at the very least a new entry, that old games should be collectible by means of such. After all, how can we obtain or keep a history of grand past games when some companies ignore them so terribly. Even games of not such old tech, Bloody Roar for instance, have fallen terribly by the way side despite constant pleads from fans for another entry. The last time we even seen a re release was only on the PS3, maybe some largely ignored hand helds by SONY it's self, and that was only the first 2 games. You don't see people piecing old car parts, and re fabricating no longer available parts, and then the ye ol manufacturer demanding their new cut, nor should they. Companies should learn this is a supply and demand market. You stop supplying what your customers demand, expect them to get it somewhere else. Especially when they've pleaded with you over and over, willing to give you money yet again.
People are so silly ,simply take out the sd card put in in your computer and copy everything the card has on it. Now if there's any problems you have you can simply copy all of it to a new sd card...that easy
Another MC no, Chinese Corporations deliberately make them that way to make you think you need to buy another card, time bombs can be averted by reversing the System Clock from days to years earlier after the expiration date of the Timebomb
Time bombs are essentially expiration dates that are coded into the flashcart kernel (which you stick onto the SD card). The code itself doesn't actually harm the flashcart or the SD card sitting inside the flashcart. The flashcart itself doesn't actually contain the time bombs, which is good because you could use alternatives such as YSMenu to replace the original and rigged kernel. Not every flashcart uses a time bomb kernel however, if your flashcart runs Wood R4, then you won't have to worry about time bombs. The only time bomb based kernel is the DSTT clone kernel, which only the modern flashcarts run, so older DSTT flashcarts or older R4 clones running an old DSTT clone kernel will NOT have a time bomb like the newer ones do. The flashcart present in this video is actually an Ace3DS Plus running Wood R4 (v1.62), generally they don't come with games preloaded onto an SD card as generally you have to buy the SD card separately anyways when you buy a flashcart. If you encounter one of the following flashcarts, it's a time bomb based flashcart: - R4i SDHC 3DS B9S - R4i SDHC 3DS RTS - R4i SDHC Dual-Core 2016-20XX - R4i SDHC Gold Pro 2016-20XX - R4i SDHC RTS Lite 2016-20XX - R4i SDHC 3DS EU These are still usable by doing one of two things, either roll the date back on your system (which messes up time based events in certain games), or use YSMenu, which is an alternative kernel solution that doesn't have a time bomb coded into it (though it does have some kinks of its own, not on the level of the time bomb code however).
Changing the date of my DS Lites and DSi changed nothing about the card. And I don't know if the following was already the case, but if I remove any cartridge, while in the Home Menu of the DS Lite, this system freezes
@@enderboy-db3sh That's because the Nintendo DS and Nintendo DS Lite didn't allow the ability to remove game cartridges from either slot-1 or slot-2 while the system is on, doing so yields a crash. Shouldn't be crashing on the Nintendo DSi.
If you have a ds with a camera, you could install homebrew on it to do the same for free. On DSi you can install CFW that currently doesn't work with every game, but more than 99 percent of the games work. On 3ds family, you can install LumaCFW which allows you to do way more than any flashcard can. Also, you can play (3-)DS roms
Well mine did as well but I installed Acekard Wood from the official Ace3DS site and it works perfectly fine unless I thump the SD on accident. Happens too often because the slot is right next to my palm on my N3DS XL.
I feel like Proto and almost everyone in the comments are misinformed. The timebomb has absolutely nothing to do with the flashcart or the SD card. The timebomb is in the software of the flashcart. The only reason it’s a major problem is because the software isn’t open source so the developers who programmed it to force you to buy the newer version of the flashcart when they released. Setting the clock back in time doesn’t do anything. It’s setting the clock to the future is when you can check if it has one.
Oh my god... I read through the comments and it’s just too much. Anyway, I don’t think proto has a flash cart with a time bomb in it. Most of them seemed to go off in 2019, (for the ones with ntrboot in them at least.) So he is probably fine. And yes, changing the clock on the system doesn’t do squat.
Idk, this feels a lot like an urban legend my guy. Has anyone actually eepromed the data off the cartridge? Is there any consistent tests? Or is it mostly colloquial stories? I mean these carts are pretty shitty. They could just, yknow, stop working cause they’re cheap.
Hu Man software time bombs are abs ya real thing. Counterfeit R4 card have them all the time. I own a counterfeit R4 card with a time bomb that’s already “gone off.” I simply set my DS date back to 2010 to continue using it.
I ordered one from Amazon today. This video and the video that explains how to fix the r4 timebomb by changing the date on the DS (in case I have it) are lifesavers.
@@bunnyallii yes currently mine still works and almost all games hold saves if they offer save files within the game. Like all Pokémon save, and New Super Mario Bros which has 3 save slots etc
if anything, i'm tempted to say that the "time bomb" could either be due to the fact that some of these pokémon roms like to check for cart parts in order to protect themselves from piracy; i'm pretty certain most of the big name games in the list actually have anti-piracy functions
@@kandy1643 They may have been patched out on commonly uploaded roms. I know that the DS Pokemon games prevent you from gaining EXP as an anti-piracy function.
No, timebombs aren't related to pokemom games checking cart parts or anything. A timebomb is a software related issue linked directly to the kernel itself. A kernel is what boots up the hack menu. In this case it's the r4 menu. Without the kernel if you try to boot up a blank r4 cart all it will say is "card could not be read" error. So if you delete the kernel from the cart it will not have a timebomb anymore. Alternatively you could just do what plenty of people have said before. Either change the in game time of the ds settings to an older year, ysmenu download that bypasses the timebomb kernel and uses its own menu, or download a firmware update for the cart you have if it's available
that COULD be the problem people are experiencing, although i can't say i've ever encountered a similar issue with my flash carts since i always delete a ton of games and install custom themes and cheats before even putting the cart in my DS
When I had a working R4 car the first issue I encountered was I could never save, my cousin took it and fixed it saying there were files missing, weird okay. Few years later (Can't put a time to it) BOOM corrupted data, plugged in into laptop to get rid of corrupted files and try and salvage anything... Ha no can't delete them. you whattt. But yeah just had to share because this video resurfaced mad memories
corrupt data, unable to save are likely made and comes from it CHEAP price games Having too much games like you paid for a 3ds game with 90000 in ONE from Wish ending up having all the game just overwrite and gets corrupted by is small space for a 6GB game card that really good but having that many games it a LIE Stay away from TOO good games I would choose R4 card over the game it may not has games reinstalled but at least if Nintendo try to sue me for having games that I don`t pay for I would show them the game card is That clearly stealing games and placing the games and making money of them ( IN FULL EYES OF BUYERS ) with their games being given away
I'm not sure this is a reliable test... Any time bomb might be internal. A clock internal to the flashcart that tracks time independently to the system itself. Not saying there IS a time bomb in this particular card, just that we can't rule it out yet.
I'm pretty sure like DaWrecka said it's most likely the Micro SD itself that would physically degrade quicker and not be tied to digital time, but physical time. Could you revisit this in a few months?
So you think it has a peice of quartz in it like a watch does to keep time? Why would they spend money on that when it can piggy back off internal system time for free
Thinking about it, you wouldn't need a piece of quartz - a 3V battery would be enough to act as a timebomb. Don't believe me? Try getting hold of a Gen 1 or Gen 2 Pokemon cart and you'll soon get the idea.
So, the thing is, the time bomb for the kernel, depending on the card, if you were to use an R4, it’d last 5 years. And even if the time bomb activates, you can just take the Sd card out, put it in your pc, copy everything, and update the kernel, boom, easy fix.
Ok so here goes. I have been a fan for YEARS! I went through a phase of not watching you because I don't really like as much Pokemon anymore.This was at a time where you did mainly pokemon, and I don't really care about that. You are an amazing youtuber and one of the first ones I've watched. Thank you and stay safe. Have a good day!
There's a platform called "StoryFire" that allows you to say whatever you want and keep way more ad revenue. I'm not affiliated in any way but I know how much you liked making videos.
The "Time bomb" of carts like these usually refers to the less than average build quality of the cart. As a victim of time bomb carts like this I'm pretty skeptical about this device, however if this thing can last at least a month it's a better investment than the switch online subscription model and would definitely be on my buylist.
It's not the build quality, the timebomb is a software issue. But i digress, this specific cart does not have a time bomb. No ace3dsplus cart has a timebomb.
But if you do have one that has a timebomb, then like many people said, you can easily avert this crisis by changing your in game clock from the ds settings to a previous year or download a firmware patch if it's available
Although in most games it makes no difference, animal crossing is a good example of a clock based game, however you could just crank the clock back to 2007 and have the time of day be right
I've had this for about 3 months now and had no problems with the cartridage itself... I think I even droped it once in full concrete floor and it still holds well. I also tried Changing the time a couple of years and nothing happened. it's bad quality but you get what you paid for..
You definitely have to copy everything from the SD over to PC as backup, or even to just swap out that generic SD card. You will have them for PC based emulators, plus you never know what issues the SD card they send will have considering all the fake capacities being reported. If you go past the actual capacity it can and will corrupt the data. Also you have the opportunity to scan the files for "extras" that may have been loaded nefariously, and the ability to MD5 hash check them (although likely a non valid point). Best of luck to you all!
@@ashleyl551 can't guarantee, but I've had luck with this. Just make the sd card you use is not one of the fake sized ones being marketed cheap. Get a quality vendor.
Sadly i was one of those victims when i was little.I bought two of these cartidges that contained a crap ton of games and both of them ended up breaking for no reason
I bought one, specifically to hack and mod my 3DS. After buying one of these it’s so easy to go the full bore on the system, it’s no point in keeping the R4 around
I recieved a similar one (some kid at school gave me it) and it's still working to this day. It's been about 3 months since he gave me it, and he had it for who knows how long. I'll try to update you all once it explodes :)
My copy finally came so I can report my own findings/experience with this flashcart. From my tests so far right out of the box it worked fine. Changed the time nothing happened, took the SD card out and put it back in still runs fine, popped it in my computer and looked through all the files and ran them through multiple antivirus just to be safe and I couldn't find anything nasty (I actually have some experience with code. Although my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt because I am a rank amateur in that regard to my knowledge there truly isn't anything malicious code wise I could find.), backed up all the files and not only did that go smoothly the backups still work perfectly fine, ran the flashcart after creating a backup and everything still works fine, tested physical durability of the flashcart to a minuscule extent and I can confirm the cartridge comes apart easily due to no screw or adhesive holding it together. It will snap back together, but I highly recommend not stress testing it and being careful because it is relatively flimsy also I recommend a tiny sliver of strong sticking tape for the micro SD card just to make sure it doesn't fall out because if the cartridge's plastic warps in any way it becomes looser. That is all I will give updates if there are any developments.
TLDR the only thing wrong is the thing is flimsy due to being made of cheap Chinese plastic, but its true you get exactly what you pay for nothing more nothing less at least in my case.
Also a breif PSA about purchasing the flashcart be absolutely sure you're getting the same one as in the video. Due to the sudden spike in popularity of this particular flashcart they are legitimately making and selling bootlegs of a bootleg game cartridge. I cannot vouch for the quality of the clones I can only for the original bootleg.
@@piplupxpp Yes. Indeed it is. I bought it using the link provided in the original video and the case and cartridge itself are both identical to the one Proto owns. You have to be really careful though because some of the carts the link goes to are either different cartridges or imitations of it as I said. I've determined the people actually making them are the sellers that are shipping from Guangzhou. I believe the reason Proto got his from New Jersey is because that's where they send the cartridges to before they get to you in the US or at least that was my experience. I tracked the package and it went through Dalton, New Jersey and stayed there for a few days so I have my theories.
Anyway may as well give an update since we're about 2 months in. My little brother has been playing the crap out of it almost every day and it's showing no signs of errors or failures so far and the backups run flawlessly on something as ridiculous as Drastic on a PS1C full of project Eris. So literally no issues with the backups whatsoever they've been sufficiently stress tested.
Unrelated but few years ago, I went back to play my original Pokemon red and yellow cartridges and they're both bricked. While idk about DS games older gen games definitely "blow up".
I have something similar to that on the original ds and I think the time bomb is the breakdown of the functionality of the card over time. With use due to poor materials the cartridge just stops working but the ad card still works fine.
It's a time bomb? Nah it's just that we don't know if it is a time bomb. I've seen a lot of these the of bootleg d's cartridges and these have always interested me. Maybe I should pick one up?
This probably has less to do with the time on your device and more to do with them using extremely low-quality memory cards. Over time the process of writing to the flash memory will burn out its elements. Higher quality flashcards will have extra memory onboard and a manager chip that swaps out the burned-out elements to make the card last longer. Lower quality cards will have less, or sometimes even none. My current understanding is that reading data is not damaging, but writing it is.
My guess is it has to do with the micro SD card corrupting over time. Even the known brand ones can start failing within a couple months. Once had a SanDisk 32GB card give me issues after 3 weeks
I had a 128 work on and off for like a year. Sometimes it would work fine. Sometimes I would have to try like 5 times to get it to work. Then one day it just stopped letting me alter it all together
I know I'm probably a little late, but as a guy who owns an R4 (Clone), the timebomb (In MY OWN experience) is just a solid screen with some error message or something similar "suggesting" that you buy a new R4, no game glitches. However, this is usually only with the firmware that is on the Micro SD Card and can easily be bypassed by setting your date back or by using a custom firmware called "YSMenu" (Which I recommend if you don't like the UI of your flashcard, there's a GBATemp thread somewhere with options for a lot of different flashcards, not just R4) TL;DR Timebombs shouldn't affect your gameplay or saves, and YSMenu is super cool.
I bought the r4 gold one years ago. It works perfectly fine. The only thing you have to do is update The firmware of it cause of the 3DS updates that Nintendo distributes. I’m not sure but if you go too far ahead with the clock it won’t read the cartridge or when you launch it, it’ll give you an error. Other than that it’s perfectly fine. No time bomb.
I remember my friend had one back in 2013 and I'd go round to hers and play pokemon soulsilver and pearl on it. A few months ago I went back round to hers and asked her about it so she booted up her ds and we went on it. It did indeed have a time bomb on it- basically rendering the games unplayable saying to reboot the system and try again which we did several times. Goodbye lv 40 Feraligatr, you will be missed ;-;
@@colton2616 there are people who have had there's for a few years and nothing happened it might just be the shoddy work of the person who created them
I feel like youre taking the term "time bomb" too literally.... I dont think it destroies itself due to what the ds thinks but by how long the game exists in real time. This could be due to delicate hardware deteriorating or some major glitch randomly occuring and bricking the entire game. Ive had something happen to me where i bought cheating things for my dsi and they bricked themselves a few weeks later. The reason why yours didnt blow up yet is because it just hasnt blown up yet. You cant proove something isnt a bomb by pointing at it and saying that "it hasnt blown up for you so it cant possibly be a time bomb"
I had 2 R4 cartridges all the way back around 2010, I recently found my old DS and tried them both. One of them worked straight away without any failure; still had all the games, they worked just fine and kept my save data from a decade ago. The other one didn't show up on the home menu straight away... But when I blew on the cartridge and put it back in, it worked! I feel like maybe my DS wasn't gonna blow up after all and these illegal artefacts are probably always gonna be safe.
I am getting one soon and I wanted to make sure it was safe so I searched it up and found you so I just wanted to thank you because I know a lot more about it.
The time bomb does not react to the system time, but it has an inbuilt timer. I also have 3 of those cartridges (I have two siblings, both no longer play DS and gave them to me) and after approximately 1 year they all stopped working. The DS would recognise a card being injected, display the spongebob game as its icon (which is normal) but once you start to boot it the DS displays a message that it could not read the card. ALL 3 OF MY CARTRIDGES are exactly like that. Resetting your DS or the time does not help or change anything.
You just convinced me to buy it... I would just like to point out I have a hard time believing the SD card can handle saving every game on the card all at the same time... I have a feeling it may override some saves on earlier games played if you try too many saves on too many different games...
because if it NOT editable game card than it likely to lose the saves 1. R4 is better than Rebuild games Game saves into a folder that can be transfer over 2.R4 is cheaper by only a bit not as have many games 3.R4 may not be having rebuild games but buying a game that has games rebuild into it may ends up having modified version of the games you wanted to play Remember you did not make it someone else did
Exactly it depends on the work of the person who created it if they did shoddy work then you get shoddy results, if it was made right like in the states people usually do better.
The time bomb is most likely _physical,_ not coded. After two years, real time, regardless of what the clock says, the cartridge will literally fall apart. Or something like that.
To people in the comments saying that the card just gets old overtime and corrupts so that's why theres a timebomb: No. It's a programmed thing they do to make you buy another card. Some cards have it and some cards do not. The R4i Gold 3DS Plus (best R4 card) and the preloaded one in the video do not have it. The R4 card Proto bought does.
I bought one on eBay the same one on ur review and I deleted some of the game's and the game's I deleted when I put in back into my ds no longer are seen in the game's menu of game's so when I first put in my phone almost all the data was used and some game files had one name of a game on 2 files
The r4isdhc cards do have timebombs. Fortunately, there is no hardware change with each new card, so you could just download the newer firmware and put it on the older card. Worked for my 2017 sdhc dual core card.
I don’t think it literally is designed to self-destruct. It’s that they use _very_ cheap SD cards that are unreliable long-term. If you replace with a higher quality one like Samsung or Sandisk & just copy the data over, you’ll be fine. I’ve been using a 208 in 1 for literally years.
It is possible it may have some "timer", that counts up as you play, saved as a number localy. And something may happen if it gets too high. Tho this is very unlikely and probably isn't in anything like this
No, it's a part of the software. Some companies like to put timebombs on carts to keep their customers coming back to buy more. But this specific cart does not have a time bomb. It is a ace3dsplus cart.
I forgot to explain that a timebomb is based on your in game clock in the ds settings. So if you set your clock back a couple years it won't timebomb itself anymore
Yeah, if you trigger the timebomb on any R4 card, you can just turn the clock back and it will work just fine. Theres no corruption, no glitches. All that is BS, some just have a black screen, some say firmware expired.
Whats likely happening is two fold. ONE, companies will take any hint of a story that would put people off from obtaining roms they're not selling emulations of themselves. The second is that there are a lot of crap micro SD cards out there that are holding the data. Over time you'll notice things like even smart phones just so happening to get parts of photos taken corrupted over time. Seemingly for no reason. Not from drops, not from anything un usual at all. Fact of the matter is, many micro SD cards, as said, are just simply less and less reliable over time, especially if they're made by SanDisc. People will sing their praises regularly, but as such many stores are not buying them to sell because they're truly the best, it's what they could get for prices and stats people will buy. Kind of like what NVIDIA and EVGA have done regularly to sell more GPU's rather than having the actual stability or longevity. Sadly in a nut shell, more and more technology has become a hit or miss thing. Still, I kind of like that these ROMs exist. It's my belief that if your game is over a decade old, and you've done nothing to make it available again, or at the very least a new entry, that old games should be collectible by means of such. After all, how can we obtain or keep a history of grand past games when some companies ignore them so terribly. Even games of not such old tech, Bloody Roar for instance, have fallen terribly by the way side despite constant pleads from fans for another entry. The last time we even seen a re release was only on the PS3, maybe some largely ignored hand helds by SONY it's self, and that was only the first 2 games. You don't see people piecing old car parts, and re fabricating no longer available parts, and then the ye ol manufacturer demanding their new cut, nor should they. Companies should learn this is a supply and demand market. You stop supplying what your customers demand, expect them to get it somewhere else. Especially when they've pleaded with you over and over, willing to give you money yet again.
My GBA cartridge of.... 70-ish-in-one, had Breath of Fire II and Zoids Legacy hence how I know those games now, eventually stopped saving, so it didn't keep save. That was about 20 years ago. I was heartbroken losing all my Zoids. But then my official Pokemon Emerald clock stopped working (meaning it didn't switch to night and berries didn't grow, day didn't even change) so I guess it's just cartridges in general lol. At least if you use an emulator you can savestate, and just play them on the computer. Mum got me this exact DS cartridge though it was under 208-in-1 - that you just mentioned as I was writing this - just because she saw it had Pokemon and Layton games (that I already have physically) and she seemed rather proud of having got me it. Well at least I have them temporarily physically now but I can just stick the ROMs onto my phone and play them there. Awkward, but playable. And yes I only have one of the Layton's emulated so that I could play Layton's London. Only Australia got that minigame apparently, lucky. And it won't be a time bomb lol.
If you have a type of R4 that has a time bomb in it, then just replace your kernel with YSMenu. Only downside is that I don't think other emulators are working on mine because of that
There's a rumor that Nintendo themselves leaked how to manufacture these R4 and bootleg carts so they can sell more consoles. If there's a time bomb somewhere in the recipe, it would be like Xbox's "Red Rings of Death"!
They break only because SD cards aren’t actually meant to be constantly rewritten so if you adding and deleting games and saving all the dang time eventually the SD card will die. I had a TTMenu one of these and it lasted nearly ten years before breaking.
I will have to check mine out when it comes in. I bought off amazon the other day the 510 in 1 version in the same box art style that you have, one I got was listed under the brand IVXCR. If I see any issues with it I will just get in touch with amazon and have them refund the money.
I could understand why people were worried about a time bomb. Back when the R4 clones started hitting the market a lot of them had built in time bombs that would go into effect anywhere from a few weeks after purchase to a year later. Depending on the type of time bomb the card would either refuse to boot until you set the clock back or would brick itself on a firmware level preventing it from ever being used again.
I stay away from sketchy stuff like this That and i usually just buy the real deal since money isn't a huge issue whenever I want to get a game. But it's neat to see the inner workings of this kinda stuff.
I would get genuine, authentic ds game carts but i don't wanna buy $200 for a copy of HGSS to some dude on ebay. I would just emulate on pc instead just cuz it's free and the money you spend doesn't even go to nintendo or even support them.
@@yozora1047, thats the issue I ran into. I havent booted up my DS Lite since probably 2012/2013 I think. I just couldnt justify the cost of new DS games and decided to pick up the new Super Mario DS game I always wanted to get and saw even on Amazon used its still $40 and that is too much to spend in my book.
The cool thing is the Pokémon games actually transfer Pokémon to real cartridges, however I did a lot of Pokémon gathering in all the versions available in order to transfer them to the real ones..then boom. Game randomly stopped working.
got sold one of these by a guy at a game store that i really liked, i only got it because i bought a ds there and had next to nothing to play on it since i was on vacation and im happy to know this thing at least should work and not kill itself lol, tysm for the helpful video!
When a bootleg game deteriorates over time and didn't have an intentional timebomb installed, it's essentially a rapid form of Gold Plastic Syndrome because of how cheap the plastic is. Internal degradation of the shell can chip off inside of the card, corrupting data. Replacing the shell with a better quality third party one from a reputable source, and extensively cleaning the actual game card within the shell, should prolong the lifespan if this occurs.
It's not "intentional to keep draining you of money" while an intentional timebomb is. This is just an oversight like the Transformers from the 80's and 90's who had cool looking sparkly swirled plastic, that now explodes when you look at it.
My R4 cart is almost 10 years old. yes it did have a time bomb, but all I did was update the R4 Menu and it works again without changing the clock back
Did you buy one?
ProtoMario yes I bought the game it hasn’t come ty for giving me a sigh of relief
No but after seeing this, I want to
Whats likely happening is two fold. ONE, companies will take any hint of a story that would put people off from obtaining roms they're not selling emulations of themselves.
The second is that there are a lot of crap micro SD cards out there that are holding the data.
Over time you'll notice things like even smart phones just so happening to get parts of photos taken corrupted over time. Seemingly for no reason. Not from drops, not from anything un usual at all. Fact of the matter is, many micro SD cards, as said, are just simply less and less reliable over time, especially if they're made by SanDisc.
People will sing their praises regularly, but as such many stores are not buying them to sell because they're truly the best, it's what they could get for prices and stats people will buy. Kind of like what NVIDIA and EVGA have done regularly to sell more GPU's rather than having the actual stability or longevity.
Sadly in a nut shell, more and more technology has become a hit or miss thing. Still, I kind of like that these ROMs exist. It's my belief that if your game is over a decade old, and you've done nothing to make it available again, or at the very least a new entry, that old games should be collectible by means of such.
After all, how can we obtain or keep a history of grand past games when some companies ignore them so terribly.
Even games of not such old tech, Bloody Roar for instance, have fallen terribly by the way side despite constant pleads from fans for another entry. The last time we even seen a re release was only on the PS3, maybe some largely ignored hand helds by SONY it's self, and that was only the first 2 games.
You don't see people piecing old car parts, and re fabricating no longer available parts, and then the ye ol manufacturer demanding their new cut, nor should they. Companies should learn this is a supply and demand market. You stop supplying what your customers demand, expect them to get it somewhere else. Especially when they've pleaded with you over and over, willing to give you money yet again.
I want to, but I'm a broke man ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I just bought all authentic pokemon games for the GBA, DS, 3DS and Switch. no problems so far. All boxes do look nice on display though.
“The clock isn’t important”
Any Animal Crossing game ever: Am I a joke to you?
@hamburger mii wtf
@hamburger mii is it McDonalds?
Xd
And Tomodachi Life
Beef boss is poofesure treating you nicely?
Honestly i never knew that a game could actually commit suicide
Yeah me neither literally never knew something like this was possible.
have you ever played et on atari it committed sucicide as soon as it was released XD
Some company tried to do this with movie rentals. It did not work out at all.
**sits down** let me tell you about a game that wants to die
Animal crossing amiibo festival
Fallout 76
Anthem
The sonic franchise
People are so silly ,simply take out the sd card put in in your computer and copy everything the card has on it. Now if there's any problems you have you can simply copy all of it to a new sd card...that easy
Correct!
Incorrect. A simple copy wouldn't help as youd copy the firmware with a time bomb. You need to flash it with ysmenu or you need to reset your clock.
You downloaded the time bomb with it
@@R.O.T.C._SEEM maybe but you will still have all the roms, emulator are easy to find
@@benbaggen2375 also incorrect. These dont work without firmware. The firmware is coded with the timebomb
Why did I imagine the actual thing exploding and destroying the DS/3DS?
@Adam "HURR DURR EVERYTHING IS CLICKBAIT!"
@@opadrip Shut up
@Pissed Off White Guy 😭😭😭
Well, people literally call it a timeBOMB so it’s normal to think of it exploding.
*mental image of my 3ds blowing up after a tiny kamikaze pidgey with mario on it blows it up
I bet it’s the game card that deteriorates which causes the “time bomb” due to bad materials.
Another MC no, Chinese Corporations deliberately make them that way to make you think you need to buy another card, time bombs can be averted by reversing the System Clock from days to years earlier after the expiration date of the Timebomb
@@Billy_Souls Yup. Just backup your saves, reflash the firmware, and you're good
It happened to me when I bought one I felt so bad when it stopped working
Then why it says firmware expired when it has no more time left
Nope just fast forward your time on your system a few years and it’ll be time bombed
Time bombs are essentially expiration dates that are coded into the flashcart kernel (which you stick onto the SD card). The code itself doesn't actually harm the flashcart or the SD card sitting inside the flashcart. The flashcart itself doesn't actually contain the time bombs, which is good because you could use alternatives such as YSMenu to replace the original and rigged kernel. Not every flashcart uses a time bomb kernel however, if your flashcart runs Wood R4, then you won't have to worry about time bombs. The only time bomb based kernel is the DSTT clone kernel, which only the modern flashcarts run, so older DSTT flashcarts or older R4 clones running an old DSTT clone kernel will NOT have a time bomb like the newer ones do. The flashcart present in this video is actually an Ace3DS Plus running Wood R4 (v1.62), generally they don't come with games preloaded onto an SD card as generally you have to buy the SD card separately anyways when you buy a flashcart.
If you encounter one of the following flashcarts, it's a time bomb based flashcart:
- R4i SDHC 3DS B9S
- R4i SDHC 3DS RTS
- R4i SDHC Dual-Core 2016-20XX
- R4i SDHC Gold Pro 2016-20XX
- R4i SDHC RTS Lite 2016-20XX
- R4i SDHC 3DS EU
These are still usable by doing one of two things, either roll the date back on your system (which messes up time based events in certain games), or use YSMenu, which is an alternative kernel solution that doesn't have a time bomb coded into it (though it does have some kinks of its own, not on the level of the time bomb code however).
So from what i could tell, youre saying that my v 1.62 ace 3ds plus card is safe?
And since you seem to be an expert, could you tell me how to use this on my New Nintendo 3ds XL?
Changing the date of my DS Lites and DSi changed nothing about the card. And I don't know if the following was already the case, but if I remove any cartridge, while in the Home Menu of the DS Lite, this system freezes
@@enderboy-db3sh That's because the Nintendo DS and Nintendo DS Lite didn't allow the ability to remove game cartridges from either slot-1 or slot-2 while the system is on, doing so yields a crash. Shouldn't be crashing on the Nintendo DSi.
Should I just get a r4 card
Thank god there is no time bomb. I ordered one last week, and I a m really excited to get one. Thank you so much for showing me this!
Me too
You could replace the kernel with YSmenu to get rid of it anyways
If you have a ds with a camera, you could install homebrew on it to do the same for free. On DSi you can install CFW that currently doesn't work with every game, but more than 99 percent of the games work. On 3ds family, you can install LumaCFW which allows you to do way more than any flashcard can. Also, you can play (3-)DS roms
Same
So does it have a time bomb? It’s been a week later
I bought one from Turkey about 10 years ago, literally died about 6 months later.
@Sandman Slim no you didn't.😂😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣
Well mine did as well but I installed Acekard Wood from the official Ace3DS site and it works perfectly fine unless I thump the SD on accident. Happens too often because the slot is right next to my palm on my N3DS XL.
I bought one from there too. Thankfully it still works. Well because it was an official r4 card
Do people from turkey taste good?
@@mrpotatobaconcarljr1564 why do you wonder that
It has to do with nature of piracy. It's outside of legal territory, that's why it is allowed to do such a thing such as "time-bomb"
Tbf nothing stops legitimate companies from doing that
@@thepenguin9 I think he meant that its already illegal, so they have no reason to follow other laws
@Antonio Socinski
True
@@elephystry Sony: "Hold my C-Bomb."
there is no time bomb with this cartridge. I'm 6 months I've the time and nothing has changed
I feel like Proto and almost everyone in the comments are misinformed. The timebomb has absolutely nothing to do with the flashcart or the SD card. The timebomb is in the software of the flashcart. The only reason it’s a major problem is because the software isn’t open source so the developers who programmed it to force you to buy the newer version of the flashcart when they released. Setting the clock back in time doesn’t do anything. It’s setting the clock to the future is when you can check if it has one.
He set it to 2022 at one point so I don't think that's the issue unless you mean it has an internal clock
Necero try setting it to 2030 and see what happens
Oh my god... I read through the comments and it’s just too much. Anyway, I don’t think proto has a flash cart with a time bomb in it. Most of them seemed to go off in 2019, (for the ones with ntrboot in them at least.) So he is probably fine. And yes, changing the clock on the system doesn’t do squat.
Idk, this feels a lot like an urban legend my guy. Has anyone actually eepromed the data off the cartridge? Is there any consistent tests? Or is it mostly colloquial stories?
I mean these carts are pretty shitty. They could just, yknow, stop working cause they’re cheap.
Hu Man software time bombs are abs ya real thing. Counterfeit R4 card have them all the time. I own a counterfeit R4 card with a time bomb that’s already “gone off.” I simply set my DS date back to 2010 to continue using it.
All besides the point but,
Gotta respect a man that has a 2DS
@@supacore yes
Thank you xd I have the green one for The legend of zelda.
@@supacore 3ds is like a small notebook
I have one too :P
I got one because I wanted the Crystal Blue.
I ordered one from Amazon today. This video and the video that explains how to fix the r4 timebomb by changing the date on the DS (in case I have it) are lifesavers.
Hey I’ve had mine for about a month and been loving it. Wondering if yours still functional?
@@jwill294 does ur still work and did u order it on amazon
@@bunnyallii yes currently mine still works and almost all games hold saves if they offer save files within the game. Like all Pokémon save, and New Super Mario Bros which has 3 save slots etc
@@jwill294 just brought mine so hopefully it will stand the test of time
How's it hanging, pokemon saves and others still saving? @@danielhales8169
if anything, i'm tempted to say that the "time bomb" could either be due to the fact that some of these pokémon roms like to check for cart parts in order to protect themselves from piracy; i'm pretty certain most of the big name games in the list actually have anti-piracy functions
If that was true then every jailbroken/homebrewed ds game would be a time bomb
@@kandy1643 They may have been patched out on commonly uploaded roms. I know that the DS Pokemon games prevent you from gaining EXP as an anti-piracy function.
@@SukaNekoto what happens if you beat the game
No, timebombs aren't related to pokemom games checking cart parts or anything. A timebomb is a software related issue linked directly to the kernel itself. A kernel is what boots up the hack menu. In this case it's the r4 menu. Without the kernel if you try to boot up a blank r4 cart all it will say is "card could not be read" error. So if you delete the kernel from the cart it will not have a timebomb anymore. Alternatively you could just do what plenty of people have said before. Either change the in game time of the ds settings to an older year, ysmenu download that bypasses the timebomb kernel and uses its own menu, or download a firmware update for the cart you have if it's available
Im guessing its the SD card running out of memory, as people are reporting corrupt data, unable to save, etc.
Aw man, guess I'll need to delete Ice Age: Continental Drift lol
that COULD be the problem people are experiencing, although i can't say i've ever encountered a similar issue with my flash carts since i always delete a ton of games and install custom themes and cheats before even putting the cart in my DS
no its intentonal
When I had a working R4 car the first issue I encountered was I could never save, my cousin took it and fixed it saying there were files missing, weird okay. Few years later (Can't put a time to it) BOOM corrupted data, plugged in into laptop to get rid of corrupted files and try and salvage anything...
Ha no can't delete them.
you whattt.
But yeah just had to share because this video resurfaced mad memories
corrupt data, unable to save are likely made and comes from it CHEAP price games
Having too much games like
you paid for a 3ds game with 90000 in ONE from Wish ending up having all the game just overwrite and gets corrupted by is small space
for a 6GB game card that really good but having that many games it a LIE
Stay away from TOO good games
I would choose R4 card over the game it may not has games reinstalled but at least if Nintendo try to sue me for having games that I don`t pay for I would show them the game card is
That clearly stealing games and placing the games and making money of them ( IN FULL EYES OF BUYERS ) with their games being given away
I'm not sure this is a reliable test... Any time bomb might be internal. A clock internal to the flashcart that tracks time independently to the system itself.
Not saying there IS a time bomb in this particular card, just that we can't rule it out yet.
I'm pretty sure like DaWrecka said it's most likely the Micro SD itself that would physically degrade quicker and not be tied to digital time, but physical time. Could you revisit this in a few months?
So you think it has a peice of quartz in it like a watch does to keep time? Why would they spend money on that when it can piggy back off internal system time for free
Thinking about it, you wouldn't need a piece of quartz - a 3V battery would be enough to act as a timebomb. Don't believe me? Try getting hold of a Gen 1 or Gen 2 Pokemon cart and you'll soon get the idea.
@@engineertf2real913 You know CR2016s are a thing, right?
So, the thing is, the time bomb for the kernel, depending on the card, if you were to use an R4, it’d last 5 years. And even if the time bomb activates, you can just take the Sd card out, put it in your pc, copy everything, and update the kernel, boom, easy fix.
What kernel do we need
Exactly. Also Ys Menu
How do you update the kernel?
Ok so here goes. I have been a fan for YEARS! I went through a phase of not watching you because I don't really like as much Pokemon anymore.This was at a time where you did mainly pokemon, and I don't really care about that. You are an amazing youtuber and one of the first ones I've watched. Thank you and stay safe. Have a good day!
All those games, for $20?! Another prime example of "You get what you pay for."
It honestly sounds like people have mistaken cheaply made knock-offs that break after 1-2 years as "self-destructing"
I thought this would be a real life creepy pasta. Can't wait for the next upload. Are you still working 16s Proto?
Yes
There's a platform called "StoryFire" that allows you to say whatever you want and keep way more ad revenue. I'm not affiliated in any way but I know how much you liked making videos.
Yeah, it's probably a specific problem to this particular card since I've never had any problems with my R4 even after adding cheat codes.
Why do I always see you Mark?
The "Time bomb" of carts like these usually refers to the less than average build quality of the cart. As a victim of time bomb carts like this I'm pretty skeptical about this device, however if this thing can last at least a month it's a better investment than the switch online subscription model and would definitely be on my buylist.
It's been 2 weeks
It's not the build quality, the timebomb is a software issue. But i digress, this specific cart does not have a time bomb. No ace3dsplus cart has a timebomb.
But if you do have one that has a timebomb, then like many people said, you can easily avert this crisis by changing your in game clock from the ds settings to a previous year or download a firmware patch if it's available
I've had mine for over 3 years no issues
@@itsmesteve1081 How do i download firmware?
Although in most games it makes no difference, animal crossing is a good example of a clock based game, however you could just crank the clock back to 2007 and have the time of day be right
Borp01 Thats becouse not everyone use the same year system.
I've had this for about 3 months now and had no problems with the cartridage itself... I think I even droped it once in full concrete floor and it still holds well. I also tried Changing the time a couple of years and nothing happened. it's bad quality but you get what you paid for..
How bad? Because I have heard that when you get far into a game, the game starts to slow down is this true?
@@Deathlock61 Not my case but it also depends on the seller most of the time.
is it still holding up?
You definitely have to copy everything from the SD over to PC as backup, or even to just swap out that generic SD card. You will have them for PC based emulators, plus you never know what issues the SD card they send will have considering all the fake capacities being reported. If you go past the actual capacity it can and will corrupt the data. Also you have the opportunity to scan the files for "extras" that may have been loaded nefariously, and the ability to MD5 hash check them (although likely a non valid point). Best of luck to you all!
Hey, do you think I could just copy everything from that sd card and paste it into a 32gb micro sd card without any issues?
@@ashleyl551 can't guarantee, but I've had luck with this. Just make the sd card you use is not one of the fake sized ones being marketed cheap. Get a quality vendor.
if you get three correct timebombs, you can activate "Time Bomb +" to deal 500 damage on the field :)
Clearly too OP, they’re gonna have to limit timebomb to 1 copy next banlist
Everyone gangster until you trigger your own Guardian to avoid Time Bombs.
Oh boy a wild battle network fan
I'll Summon the FBI the most powerful summoning
FBI do is. Ban whatever this or that, they unable to using until FBI are removed off the field
Massive damage
Sadly i was one of those victims when i was little.I bought two of these cartidges that contained a crap ton of games and both of them ended up breaking for no reason
I bought one, specifically to hack and mod my 3DS. After buying one of these it’s so easy to go the full bore on the system, it’s no point in keeping the R4 around
I recieved a similar one (some kid at school gave me it) and it's still working to this day. It's been about 3 months since he gave me it, and he had it for who knows how long. I'll try to update you all once it explodes :)
bred boi is it still working
@@TheLilTurks yes, it still works
Is it still workin or did it go boom
bodie huhta mines still working over 1 month
I'll just drop a comment so i could get notified when he updates
My copy finally came so I can report my own findings/experience with this flashcart. From my tests so far right out of the box it worked fine. Changed the time nothing happened, took the SD card out and put it back in still runs fine, popped it in my computer and looked through all the files and ran them through multiple antivirus just to be safe and I couldn't find anything nasty (I actually have some experience with code. Although my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt because I am a rank amateur in that regard to my knowledge there truly isn't anything malicious code wise I could find.), backed up all the files and not only did that go smoothly the backups still work perfectly fine, ran the flashcart after creating a backup and everything still works fine, tested physical durability of the flashcart to a minuscule extent and I can confirm the cartridge comes apart easily due to no screw or adhesive holding it together. It will snap back together, but I highly recommend not stress testing it and being careful because it is relatively flimsy also I recommend a tiny sliver of strong sticking tape for the micro SD card just to make sure it doesn't fall out because if the cartridge's plastic warps in any way it becomes looser. That is all I will give updates if there are any developments.
TLDR the only thing wrong is the thing is flimsy due to being made of cheap Chinese plastic, but its true you get exactly what you pay for nothing more nothing less at least in my case.
Also a breif PSA about purchasing the flashcart be absolutely sure you're getting the same one as in the video. Due to the sudden spike in popularity of this particular flashcart they are legitimately making and selling bootlegs of a bootleg game cartridge. I cannot vouch for the quality of the clones I can only for the original bootleg.
Is the same one in the video?
@@piplupxpp Yes. Indeed it is. I bought it using the link provided in the original video and the case and cartridge itself are both identical to the one Proto owns. You have to be really careful though because some of the carts the link goes to are either different cartridges or imitations of it as I said. I've determined the people actually making them are the sellers that are shipping from Guangzhou. I believe the reason Proto got his from New Jersey is because that's where they send the cartridges to before they get to you in the US or at least that was my experience. I tracked the package and it went through Dalton, New Jersey and stayed there for a few days so I have my theories.
Anyway may as well give an update since we're about 2 months in. My little brother has been playing the crap out of it almost every day and it's showing no signs of errors or failures so far and the backups run flawlessly on something as ridiculous as Drastic on a PS1C full of project Eris. So literally no issues with the backups whatsoever they've been sufficiently stress tested.
I was so scared that this was about DS games in general. Like, RIP my childhood if that was the case.
Unrelated but few years ago, I went back to play my original Pokemon red and yellow cartridges and they're both bricked. While idk about DS games older gen games definitely "blow up".
@@animeentranced1130 it's either a dead save battery or a bad chip inside the cartridge. That's my best guess.
I have something similar to that on the original ds and I think the time bomb is the breakdown of the functionality of the card over time. With use due to poor materials the cartridge just stops working but the ad card still works fine.
It's probably just a cheap SD card that fails after a few months or years.
therefore you could drag the files from the cheap sd card and load them on your pc to a high quality sd card it is really no problem
@@poppypeppa0186 What if my computer doesn't have an SD Card reader? ;-)
It's a time bomb?
Nah it's just that we don't know if it is a time bomb.
I've seen a lot of these the of bootleg d's cartridges and these have always interested me.
Maybe I should pick one up?
This is the least edgiest comment from an edge lord I've seen
the r4i is what you should get.the r4s on ebay have the time bomb
Get one and if it does have a time bomb then just change the time on your DS to an old date.
@@spaceduck67221 Example?
@@spaceduck67221 because mine is coming soon from Amazon
That's not how "time bomb" is intended... it might just be low quality card and such.
You get what you pay for...
@@ProtoMario Undoubtedly, but that's still an invalid test.
And it's still irrelevant, as you said you wouldn't "come back for more" anyway.
nope its intentional
This probably has less to do with the time on your device and more to do with them using extremely low-quality memory cards. Over time the process of writing to the flash memory will burn out its elements. Higher quality flashcards will have extra memory onboard and a manager chip that swaps out the burned-out elements to make the card last longer. Lower quality cards will have less, or sometimes even none.
My current understanding is that reading data is not damaging, but writing it is.
My guess is it has to do with the micro SD card corrupting over time. Even the known brand ones can start failing within a couple months. Once had a SanDisk 32GB card give me issues after 3 weeks
I've had a 32gb card for the last 7 years and it still works
@@DirtyMikeHoncho nice. Only card I've had that lasted me almost as long is in my 3DS
@bubble boi that's crazy. I just summed it up to things being mass produced and my luck being absolutely terrible. Lol
I had a 128 work on and off for like a year. Sometimes it would work fine. Sometimes I would have to try like 5 times to get it to work. Then one day it just stopped letting me alter it all together
I bought an R4i almost a decade and it still works completely fine to this day. I didn't even know this time bomb thing even existed
I know I'm probably a little late, but as a guy who owns an R4 (Clone), the timebomb (In MY OWN experience) is just a solid screen with some error message or something similar "suggesting" that you buy a new R4, no game glitches. However, this is usually only with the firmware that is on the Micro SD Card and can easily be bypassed by setting your date back or by using a custom firmware called "YSMenu" (Which I recommend if you don't like the UI of your flashcard, there's a GBATemp thread somewhere with options for a lot of different flashcards, not just R4)
TL;DR
Timebombs shouldn't affect your gameplay or saves, and YSMenu is super cool.
i have an r4 card, i lost it tho and i literally can’t find it anywhere. just hoping it didn’t kill itself with a time bomb
I bought the r4 gold one years ago. It works perfectly fine. The only thing you have to do is update The firmware of it cause of the 3DS updates that Nintendo distributes. I’m not sure but if you go too far ahead with the clock it won’t read the cartridge or when you launch it, it’ll give you an error. Other than that it’s perfectly fine. No time bomb.
To be honest, I use an R4 with a timebomb and even when it 'detonates' I still get to play as I just revert the system date
I have an unloaded R4 gold for 3DS, does that have time bomb issues too or is it just the pre loaded ones?
I remember my friend had one back in 2013 and I'd go round to hers and play pokemon soulsilver and pearl on it. A few months ago I went back round to hers and asked her about it so she booted up her ds and we went on it. It did indeed have a time bomb on it- basically rendering the games unplayable saying to reboot the system and try again which we did several times. Goodbye lv 40 Feraligatr, you will be missed ;-;
But is it possible to play other games?
I mean like it'll only ruin the cartridge and not the ds itself right?
I’ve had mine for 4 years and haven’t had a single issue yet
i just bought one and thank GOODNESS i didn’t have a timebomb
how do you know if it does have a timebomb or not?
@@colton2616 there are people who have had there's for a few years and nothing happened it might just be the shoddy work of the person who created them
I was litterally playing with the cartridge as I watched this video that came in my recommendations and its great!!!
I feel like youre taking the term "time bomb" too literally.... I dont think it destroies itself due to what the ds thinks but by how long the game exists in real time. This could be due to delicate hardware deteriorating or some major glitch randomly occuring and bricking the entire game. Ive had something happen to me where i bought cheating things for my dsi and they bricked themselves a few weeks later. The reason why yours didnt blow up yet is because it just hasnt blown up yet. You cant proove something isnt a bomb by pointing at it and saying that "it hasnt blown up for you so it cant possibly be a time bomb"
no it has a thing in the kernel that tells it to format when it's put in a ds that has a clock past a certain date
Hardware doesnt degrade that fast. 20+ years for even shitty capacitors to start failing usually
It's just a error message.
I would just put the files on your computer incase the sd start bugging
That what I did just in case. Thank man.
Oh but how do I get rid of the timebomb in those files?
I had 2 R4 cartridges all the way back around 2010, I recently found my old DS and tried them both.
One of them worked straight away without any failure; still had all the games, they worked just fine and kept my save data from a decade ago.
The other one didn't show up on the home menu straight away... But when I blew on the cartridge and put it back in, it worked!
I feel like maybe my DS wasn't gonna blow up after all and these illegal artefacts are probably always gonna be safe.
I am getting one soon and I wanted to make sure it was safe so I searched it up and found you so I just wanted to thank you because I know a lot more about it.
Hey Proto.... love watching your stuff bro... keep it up 👌👍
The time bomb does not react to the system time, but it has an inbuilt timer. I also have 3 of those cartridges (I have two siblings, both no longer play DS and gave them to me) and after approximately 1 year they all stopped working. The DS would recognise a card being injected, display the spongebob game as its icon (which is normal) but once you start to boot it the DS displays a message that it could not read the card. ALL 3 OF MY CARTRIDGES are exactly like that. Resetting your DS or the time does not help or change anything.
You just convinced me to buy it...
I would just like to point out I have a hard time believing the SD card can handle saving every game on the card all at the same time... I have a feeling it may override some saves on earlier games played if you try too many saves on too many different games...
because if it NOT editable game card than it likely to lose the saves
1. R4 is better than Rebuild games
Game saves into a folder that can be transfer over
2.R4 is cheaper by only a bit not as have many games
3.R4 may not be having rebuild games but buying a game that has games rebuild into it may ends up having modified version of the games you wanted to play
Remember you did not make it someone else did
A long time since I've seen a ProtoMario video, and it wasn't even intentional.
Just one day after the time set on the dsi
As somebody who’s purchased one I’ve not dealt with this problem before
I've had the flashcart for 2 years now and nothing has happened
Exactly it depends on the work of the person who created it if they did shoddy work then you get shoddy results, if it was made right like in the states people usually do better.
From what I have read from multiple sources, this particular cart does not have a timebomb. This is an ace3dsplus cart which doesn't have a time bomb
The time bomb is most likely _physical,_ not coded. After two years, real time, regardless of what the clock says, the cartridge will literally fall apart. Or something like that.
No
No, lol.
To people in the comments saying that the card just gets old overtime and corrupts so that's why theres a timebomb:
No. It's a programmed thing they do to make you buy another card. Some cards have it and some cards do not. The R4i Gold 3DS Plus (best R4 card) and the preloaded one in the video do not have it. The R4 card Proto bought does.
So you're basically saying it's perfectly fine to use the 208-in-1 cartridge, without any worries of a potential timebomb later down the line?
I wanna get one does it work normal /good like the normal games ?
I bought one on eBay the same one on ur review and I deleted some of the game's and the game's I deleted when I put in back into my ds no longer are seen in the game's menu of game's so when I first put in my phone almost all the data was used and some game files had one name of a game on 2 files
Thank you so much for this! I’ve been wanting to know what type of R4 card to get that would last well, and this video helped me a lot
The r4isdhc cards do have timebombs. Fortunately, there is no hardware change with each new card, so you could just download the newer firmware and put it on the older card. Worked for my 2017 sdhc dual core card.
I don’t think it literally is designed to self-destruct. It’s that they use _very_ cheap SD cards that are unreliable long-term. If you replace with a higher quality one like Samsung or Sandisk & just copy the data over, you’ll be fine. I’ve been using a 208 in 1 for literally years.
How do you copy the data over
It is possible it may have some "timer", that counts up as you play, saved as a number localy. And something may happen if it gets too high. Tho this is very unlikely and probably isn't in anything like this
No, it's a part of the software. Some companies like to put timebombs on carts to keep their customers coming back to buy more. But this specific cart does not have a time bomb. It is a ace3dsplus cart.
I forgot to explain that a timebomb is based on your in game clock in the ds settings. So if you set your clock back a couple years it won't timebomb itself anymore
Yeah, if you trigger the timebomb on any R4 card, you can just turn the clock back and it will work just fine. Theres no corruption, no glitches. All that is BS, some just have a black screen, some say firmware expired.
Whats likely happening is two fold. ONE, companies will take any hint of a story that would put people off from obtaining roms they're not selling emulations of themselves.
The second is that there are a lot of crap micro SD cards out there that are holding the data.
Over time you'll notice things like even smart phones just so happening to get parts of photos taken corrupted over time. Seemingly for no reason. Not from drops, not from anything un usual at all. Fact of the matter is, many micro SD cards, as said, are just simply less and less reliable over time, especially if they're made by SanDisc.
People will sing their praises regularly, but as such many stores are not buying them to sell because they're truly the best, it's what they could get for prices and stats people will buy. Kind of like what NVIDIA and EVGA have done regularly to sell more GPU's rather than having the actual stability or longevity.
Sadly in a nut shell, more and more technology has become a hit or miss thing. Still, I kind of like that these ROMs exist. It's my belief that if your game is over a decade old, and you've done nothing to make it available again, or at the very least a new entry, that old games should be collectible by means of such.
After all, how can we obtain or keep a history of grand past games when some companies ignore them so terribly.
Even games of not such old tech, Bloody Roar for instance, have fallen terribly by the way side despite constant pleads from fans for another entry. The last time we even seen a re release was only on the PS3, maybe some largely ignored hand helds by SONY it's self, and that was only the first 2 games.
You don't see people piecing old car parts, and re fabricating no longer available parts, and then the ye ol manufacturer demanding their new cut, nor should they. Companies should learn this is a supply and demand market. You stop supplying what your customers demand, expect them to get it somewhere else. Especially when they've pleaded with you over and over, willing to give you money yet again.
My GBA cartridge of.... 70-ish-in-one, had Breath of Fire II and Zoids Legacy hence how I know those games now, eventually stopped saving, so it didn't keep save. That was about 20 years ago. I was heartbroken losing all my Zoids.
But then my official Pokemon Emerald clock stopped working (meaning it didn't switch to night and berries didn't grow, day didn't even change) so I guess it's just cartridges in general lol. At least if you use an emulator you can savestate, and just play them on the computer.
Mum got me this exact DS cartridge though it was under 208-in-1 - that you just mentioned as I was writing this - just because she saw it had Pokemon and Layton games (that I already have physically) and she seemed rather proud of having got me it.
Well at least I have them temporarily physically now but I can just stick the ROMs onto my phone and play them there. Awkward, but playable.
And yes I only have one of the Layton's emulated so that I could play Layton's London. Only Australia got that minigame apparently, lucky.
And it won't be a time bomb lol.
Is there any risk of the game ruining your actual new 3dsxl console?
nope, i have the same system and an r4 cart. no changes, nothing broken/glitched. smae with the dsi i have. so, for me, its safe
The time-b melts your handheld, your left hand, your face, & sends you back in time where quasimodo is your cousin 🙀😸
If you have a type of R4 that has a time bomb in it, then just replace your kernel with YSMenu. Only downside is that I don't think other emulators are working on mine because of that
Thank you for making this video!
It's the cheap SD cards they use. Over time, they get corrupted. Just copy the SD contents on to a better SD :)
Sometimes it's the actual kernel they use, if you set the date back it works again most of the times, although yes, ssd quality is definitely needed
I should've known this when I bought an R4 card.. It time bombed itself two months after purchase..
i would just use Twilight++ with a 3DS, considering it uses the hardware in the system to work, granted you need a homebrewed system to use it.
There's a rumor that Nintendo themselves leaked how to manufacture these R4 and bootleg carts so they can sell more consoles.
If there's a time bomb somewhere in the recipe, it would be like Xbox's "Red Rings of Death"!
I see...maybe the timebomb part is in the root of the sd card ?
I don't know it looks sketchy still xd
They break only because SD cards aren’t actually meant to be constantly rewritten so if you adding and deleting games and saving all the dang time eventually the SD card will die.
I had a TTMenu one of these and it lasted nearly ten years before breaking.
Though you can do this for free by installing cfw on your ds or 3ds with twilight menu. Free beats 10 bucks.
I use twilight menu and it’s so easy to install. And very much worth it
I will have to check mine out when it comes in. I bought off amazon the other day the 510 in 1 version in the same box art style that you have, one I got was listed under the brand IVXCR. If I see any issues with it I will just get in touch with amazon and have them refund the money.
How it go?
Does it still work?
yo any update
I could understand why people were worried about a time bomb. Back when the R4 clones started hitting the market a lot of them had built in time bombs that would go into effect anywhere from a few weeks after purchase to a year later. Depending on the type of time bomb the card would either refuse to boot until you set the clock back or would brick itself on a firmware level preventing it from ever being used again.
Life hack just change the time zone
I stay away from sketchy stuff like this
That and i usually just buy the real deal since money isn't a huge issue whenever I want to get a game.
But it's neat to see the inner workings of this kinda stuff.
I would get genuine, authentic ds game carts but i don't wanna buy $200 for a copy of HGSS to some dude on ebay. I would just emulate on pc instead just cuz it's free and the money you spend doesn't even go to nintendo or even support them.
@@yozora1047, thats the issue I ran into. I havent booted up my DS Lite since probably 2012/2013 I think. I just couldnt justify the cost of new DS games and decided to pick up the new Super Mario DS game I always wanted to get and saw even on Amazon used its still $40 and that is too much to spend in my book.
@@Milner62 at this point bro just emulate it. it runs fine on my pc, but the stick controls are a bit wack so just use dpad like the actual game
The cool thing is the Pokémon games actually transfer Pokémon to real cartridges, however I did a lot of Pokémon gathering in all the versions available in order to transfer them to the real ones..then boom. Game randomly stopped working.
I bought it and I was kimda worried when I saw this
Does yours still work
@@kenkaneki7192 yeah
@@KyotaZen have fun
@@KyotaZen im about to order 1, is yours still working good?
@@nawandouy7860 mine is still great
You do have a good cam. The quality looks good.
Seen loads of these on amazon, definitely a scam
Just remember; Red wire, then blue wire.
I just want heart gold and super Mario without spending 200 bucks😨
got sold one of these by a guy at a game store that i really liked, i only got it because i bought a ds there and had next to nothing to play on it since i was on vacation and im happy to know this thing at least should work and not kill itself lol, tysm for the helpful video!
I've had one for 3 years and it still works fine
Mr.kevin not home is it this particular product or something different?
Had one of these for around 1 year and it still works
What are the chances of that haha, you set the time to 2022 24 04 guess what the date is today that’s so cool haha
Same
When a bootleg game deteriorates over time and didn't have an intentional timebomb installed, it's essentially a rapid form of Gold Plastic Syndrome because of how cheap the plastic is. Internal degradation of the shell can chip off inside of the card, corrupting data. Replacing the shell with a better quality third party one from a reputable source, and extensively cleaning the actual game card within the shell, should prolong the lifespan if this occurs.
Basically, some cheap plastics self-destruct depending on the mix that was used. GPS can affect bootleg game carts.
It's not "intentional to keep draining you of money" while an intentional timebomb is. This is just an oversight like the Transformers from the 80's and 90's who had cool looking sparkly swirled plastic, that now explodes when you look at it.
mine is over 10 years old and still works 😺
There is a way to get back to the Menu! Press L and R And ABXY at the same time and it takes you back to the menu to select a ROM.
Solution: Homebrew your 3ds
I agree. 👍
Sadly I don't have a computer sol if sent hombres :(
My R4 cart is almost 10 years old. yes it did have a time bomb, but all I did was update the R4 Menu and it works again without changing the clock back
"Laughs in pokemon gold and silver"