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  • @sillycat103
    @sillycat103 3 роки тому +8993

    Imagine hearing about a school shooting at your child's school, so you are really worried about your child, but they are revealed to be the shooter

    • @sia7162
      @sia7162 3 роки тому +571

      i can’t imagine the dread yo.

    • @kirkrammsy
      @kirkrammsy 3 роки тому +216

      I imagine being father of a kid and can't do anything in that moment :O

    • @thearcticfoxd8844
      @thearcticfoxd8844 3 роки тому +499

      One of the parents actually feels so guilty about it that she will even tell people about what happened when she meets them. She doesn’t wanna leave people in the dark. She did a whole Ted talk about it.

    • @MsTinkerbelle87
      @MsTinkerbelle87 3 роки тому +135

      This comment is the best birth control, thank youuu 😂

    • @BigWilt2000
      @BigWilt2000 3 роки тому +8

      Right

  • @franksmith613
    @franksmith613 4 роки тому +4866

    The students who called in sick that day were lucky.

    • @jugadormike6452
      @jugadormike6452 3 роки тому +410

      @@hutchisopinion7603 that isnt a joke

    • @michaelterrell2108
      @michaelterrell2108 3 роки тому +424

      @@hutchisopinion7603 I don't think he's joking. They are legit lucky to be alive cause Eric and Dylan were out for blood that day

    • @16Craft82
      @16Craft82 3 роки тому +114

      This was me w/Noblesville Middle School. Had a gnarly cold so I was out. luckily no one died. I struggle a lot with feeling guilt, I guess. Guilty that for some reason chance had given me slack while so many others weren’t given that. My friends texted each other in the group chat at exactly 10:06, trying to see if we were all alive. I ran out into the living room only to watch on the TV the people that I’d known since we were 6 running for their lives. It was an awful, awful day.

    • @TheMrpeejoe
      @TheMrpeejoe 3 роки тому +2

      HA!

    • @liamduenas98
      @liamduenas98 3 роки тому +8

      not an appropriate place for this

  • @julzniandra
    @julzniandra 5 років тому +3066

    that "high school massacre" picture with the bullet rounds is so inappropriate. its almost like glorified

    • @MinifigNewsguy
      @MinifigNewsguy 5 років тому +222

      Please... what were they supposed to do have no over the shoulder graphics? I suggest you be news director for a day and see how you would be tasked to do the design of the story.

    • @mootpoint7053
      @mootpoint7053 5 років тому +139

      I agree it is very inappropriate.

    • @sarai637
      @sarai637 5 років тому +50

      Julianna I agree... really poor taste

    • @emilyblanzy7426
      @emilyblanzy7426 5 років тому +132

      i think they didn't know how to be sensative to these things back then. this just wasn't common

    • @madisonhowell2864
      @madisonhowell2864 5 років тому +9

      It really is. They need to be more sensitive.

  • @sandrawehrley4212
    @sandrawehrley4212 2 роки тому +736

    This news anchor is legendary. He was right under the South Tower on 9/11 when it started coming down. He’s had to cover so much horror in America…how does he do it?

    • @r2d2musk6
      @r2d2musk6 2 роки тому +51

      By being placed there, either that or coincidence

    • @austinflores8552
      @austinflores8552 2 роки тому +6

      Doctors usually prescribe viagra for antidepressants

    • @robertoromero4814
      @robertoromero4814 2 роки тому

      @@r2d2musk6 exactly. He's a puppet. We're all puppets. It's a lifelong cycle which will only end once this earth burns to the core

    • @r2d2musk6
      @r2d2musk6 2 роки тому +1

      @@robertoromero4814 It feels like that sometimes but it’s not. Simply knowing breaks that.

    • @angiesapples6162
      @angiesapples6162 Рік тому +25

      9/11 is also Dylan's birthday

  • @alisonfowler8193
    @alisonfowler8193 2 роки тому +761

    I'll never forget this day... I was 13. Now 36, in shock over elementary school shootings. Still unbelievable.

    • @badgirlhollywood9741
      @badgirlhollywood9741 2 роки тому +15

      Pfft I was 6 I remember nothing.

    • @christianmistian6849
      @christianmistian6849 2 роки тому +18

      I’m the same age as you and I’ll never forget it. It was unheard of at the time. I remember being scared to go to high school. Some girl made a hit list but luckily she was caught and removed from the school immediately. Now I have a child of my own and I’m terrified for him. Uvalde has shook me to my core.

    • @liberalizmism5431
      @liberalizmism5431 2 роки тому +5

      I was 13 also. I remember exactly where I was when I heard the news

    • @alisonfowler8193
      @alisonfowler8193 2 роки тому +7

      @@christianmistian6849 it's just unbelievable. I hope your little one and all other kiddo's stay safe. We have to do better for them.

    • @shanejones578
      @shanejones578 2 роки тому +1

      @@christianmistian6849 write the district that you want teachers armed, military at the school, or armed security. Unfortunately there’s nothing we can do to prevent this as we’ve seen over the last several decades except be better prepared for when it does happen…

  • @luchtballon1999
    @luchtballon1999 3 роки тому +773

    i was already so disgusted by these actions of the shooters but when i heard they laughed when they shot the people made me even more disgusted

    • @Mster_J
      @Mster_J 3 роки тому +136

      I watched a documentary and it said that they also would tease people before they shot them and would pretend that they would spare someone to get their hopes up but then shoot them right after. Disgusting

    • @idk-mk2pj
      @idk-mk2pj 2 роки тому +35

      Both of them were bullied heavily. Dylan was suicidal too.

    • @bungersinyourarea
      @bungersinyourarea 2 роки тому +180

      @@idk-mk2pj doesn't excuse the murder of 15 people

    • @clxwn_dud3158
      @clxwn_dud3158 2 роки тому +14

      @@bungersinyourarea exactly.

    • @mel_zzz_
      @mel_zzz_ 2 роки тому +43

      @@idk-mk2pj That doesn't matter... they enjoyed end the live of so many people and didn't have the guts to face the consequences

  • @gooeygaster30
    @gooeygaster30 4 роки тому +440

    they're blaming the internet and violent movies for real

    • @user-gl6zp8ei4b
      @user-gl6zp8ei4b 3 роки тому +75

      Ikr. I've watched over 100 horror movies and planning a mass murder has never crossed my mind

    • @amorderose
      @amorderose 3 роки тому +37

      @@ZuhairEDP No, most people do not wish to carry out mass shootings after watching horror or graphic action films. The movies are not the issue.

    • @luigi7834
      @luigi7834 3 роки тому +12

      People want a pat, easy, neat answer because they don't want to actually change the system.

    • @jjskills5338
      @jjskills5338 3 роки тому +9

      If this happened like 3 years ago they would blame it on Fortnite or call of duty for the violence

    • @joshjimmykurian2499
      @joshjimmykurian2499 3 роки тому +3

      The Internet the violent movies violent animes are the reasons why voilence is increasing day by day

  • @stefansnellgrove
    @stefansnellgrove 4 роки тому +1466

    So sad this is still happening today in this country. RIP to all the victims that lost their lives that day and that the survivors have recovered witnessing this horrible event.

    • @with_palo
      @with_palo 2 роки тому +6

      To this day, December 2021 💔

    • @jasminesimmons5224
      @jasminesimmons5224 2 роки тому

      This shooting is sadly the reason why

    • @loriepostlewaite162
      @loriepostlewaite162 2 роки тому +3

      Yes ❤️

    • @2real2face
      @2real2face 2 роки тому +12

      Still to this day 🙏🏾🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @Edmondson_Avenue
      @Edmondson_Avenue 2 роки тому

      Mental illness, bullying and harassment, people have to be more polite and care for each as a whole.

  • @dudebrochill6583
    @dudebrochill6583 5 років тому +1740

    Why is there no videos on UA-cam of coverage from the massacre as it happened? Everything I can find is from after the fact not during.

    • @cheese69
      @cheese69 5 років тому +219

      DudeBro Chill I’m also looking for coverage as it happened. It’s frustrating

    • @rowsiero4632
      @rowsiero4632 5 років тому +212

      I've been looking for those videos too, it seems they were banned from youtube.

    • @rowsiero4632
      @rowsiero4632 5 років тому +134

      I found a video you might find interesting: Columbine High School shooting news coverage 1999 thats how it is on youtube is 6 hours long but contains very good material.

    • @dudebrochill6583
      @dudebrochill6583 5 років тому +37

      Rows iero thanks for the suggestion but using those terms doesn’t turn up a 6 hour video. Actually the first video that comes up is this one.

    • @hndsmepgs
      @hndsmepgs 5 років тому +14

      It has. I watched it years before but can't find it now. Sad.

  • @yyygggggg10
    @yyygggggg10 6 років тому +1099

    I think it was more than bullying.

    • @Profile.4
      @Profile.4 5 років тому +69

      It was

    • @Aminangela
      @Aminangela 5 років тому +371

      It absolutely was. The issue was 90% mental health, and the media pushed a romantic “love each other and shootings won’t happen~” thing because people liked it. The truth is, they were sociopaths that needed serious help and they already had friends.

    • @yesnina3596
      @yesnina3596 4 роки тому +182

      Eric and Dylan were never bullied. Both boys were pretty popular and had a social life. Unfortunately both were mentally unstable, Eric was obsessed with human extinction and Dylan was suicidal. I recommend reading the book Columbine by Dave Cullen if you want to know more about these two murderers
      I also wanted to add on that the media loved to use the "outcast kill jock" and the "trench coat mafia" story to justify Eric and Dylan's horrific acts. Both were definitely mentally unstable and unfortunately there had been many signs but of course no one payed attention.

    • @mayrasucid4899
      @mayrasucid4899 4 роки тому +52

      They weren’t bullied, it’s all on the book called Columbine

    • @prettyneev
      @prettyneev 4 роки тому +18

      Cachetes :p but they were considered outsiders. They didn’t have “girlfriends” or were on sports teams. They felt as tho they didn’t fit it. Some student survivors recalled them saying something to the effect of, “This is because you were bullying me.”

  • @FrayJaeBen
    @FrayJaeBen 5 років тому +505

    Down fall of the American school system...heartbreaking

    • @dudebrochill6583
      @dudebrochill6583 4 роки тому +60

      The downfall started way way way before Columbine... and Columbine was NOT the first school shooting ever. The downfall started when we gave the education system away to the government and the liberals.

    • @WannaAstro
      @WannaAstro 3 роки тому +11

      DudeBro Chill and what SHOULD the school system be like?

    • @chunkyboy2233
      @chunkyboy2233 3 роки тому +13

      @@dudebrochill6583 No but it was one of America's biggest school shootings at the time, but now in 2020 there is a lot more that a similar. It's Bad.

    • @CrossOfBayonne
      @CrossOfBayonne 3 роки тому +5

      @@dudebrochill6583 There was another school shooting that happened over 30 years before this at the University Of Texas where ex Marine Charles Whitman shot and killed 6 people from a observation deck before police took him down.

    • @AMayer-se6gg
      @AMayer-se6gg 3 роки тому +16

      @@dudebrochill6583 you mean when Reagan started defunding education in the 80’s. Wait, you are the result.

  • @crashb0mb
    @crashb0mb 2 роки тому +219

    "a sick gun society"
    here we are 23 years later, nothing's changed in this country..

    • @shanejones578
      @shanejones578 2 роки тому +15

      First school shooting in American history took place in the early 1960s, we had guns and schools for 200+ years prior to that but go on continue blaming the object.

    • @shanejones578
      @shanejones578 2 роки тому +6

      You missed the whole point, hence why these violent acts will continue. You can think banning guns will help til now kids are doing it with knives and baseball bats going out even worse than they were from guns…

    • @tsam3676
      @tsam3676 2 роки тому +11

      Guns arent the problem

    • @DannyCosmos
      @DannyCosmos 2 роки тому +10

      @@tsam3676 this dosnt happen in other places... its the guns

    • @tsam3676
      @tsam3676 2 роки тому +5

      @@DannyCosmos shinzo abe just got killed and many countries do have the same issue. The real problem is that this country caters to the criminal

  • @josesandoval4113
    @josesandoval4113 3 роки тому +369

    I’ve actually been to Columbine twice for some speech and debate competitions. Being born after the massacre, it never really struck me how much this tragedy shook the nation.
    The first time I competed there though, my oldest sister and my brother in law were trembling as they dropped me off. They asked me multiple times if I even wanted to go inside. I confidently said “yeah! Why wouldn’t I?” without acknowledging how genuinely scared they were for my safety.
    I stepped inside, and was guided to the cafeteria. That is when reality hit me. The footage I saw as a kid of students hiding under tables played over and over again in my head.
    Once everyone had arrived, the faculty held a meeting telling us not to take pictures out of respect for the families of the victims. They urged us to never walk around by ourselves, and also to report any suspicious activity.
    Fortunately nothing ever happened at those competitions, but the fear and anxiety I felt is something I’ll never forget.

    • @spiralrose
      @spiralrose 2 роки тому +7

      I was around sixteen or eighteen and watched the news coverage the day it happened.
      The advice not to walk alone at a competition fifteen or eighteen or however many years after the massacre that you came on the scene, sounds excessive.

    • @mila9156
      @mila9156 2 роки тому +21

      @@spiralrose I feel like it maybe be due to concern of a chance of someone trying to recreate the tragedy? And history does repeat itself so it’s probably for the best.

    • @RazPerignon
      @RazPerignon 2 роки тому +7

      Fear for your safety? This happened in 1999 and your acting like it happens weekly.

    • @ligealucretia
      @ligealucretia 2 роки тому +9

      @@RazPerignonwell,

    • @kaleylindsay8923
      @kaleylindsay8923 Рік тому +5

      @@RazPerignon I thought the same thing lol kind of a self centered comment over something that happened 25 years ago 🙄

  • @scoopishere7881
    @scoopishere7881 2 роки тому +180

    One of the worst parts is that they succeeded in making their impact. Dozens more have died because of others influenced by these two. The damage they've done goes far, far beyond just this instance.

    • @michaelterrell2108
      @michaelterrell2108 2 роки тому +29

      Their influence is scary. There will be more who are influenced by them. That’s what Eric and Dylan wanted.

    • @mkl62
      @mkl62 Рік тому +10

      True. How many copycat threats were made at schools after this?

    • @gmzsandrita
      @gmzsandrita Рік тому

      @@mkl62 we had bomb threat hoaxes occur at our school shortly after. Fast forward 23 years later and I hear this year there was another call made to police about an active shooter...another hoax. Yet, just another shooting happened today in St. Louis. What these guys did was demonically influenced, but I dare not give them glory for what they did, I thank my God He still has power to save, redeem the losses beyond comprehension, and make good come out of all this (yes, even a heinous crime can have good stirred in human beings as well). Look at the principal at Columbine and see how far he's come in helping others.

    • @ExperiencedPlayer2468
      @ExperiencedPlayer2468 Рік тому +2

      nah one of the worst parts is bullying is succeeding, stop the bullying, no more violence

    • @kaleylindsay8923
      @kaleylindsay8923 Рік тому +9

      @@ExperiencedPlayer2468 people get bullied everyday all over the world and they don’t murder people. It’s not about bullying. It’s about mental illness.

  • @ViNNYDICEnice
    @ViNNYDICEnice 2 роки тому +123

    2:36 is Brian Anderson. You can see the blood on his shirt from when he was shot at by Eric, just inside of the entrance doors, where pieces of the door/bullet/glass hit his chest. He was leaving the entrance at the same time Patti Nelson was going to confront the shooters for the ruckus they were causing with their "prop guns". Once both Patti and Brian realized the gravity of the situation, they fled to the library where Patti made her infamous 911 call "GET DOWN ON THE FLOOR AND STAY ON THE FLOOR!", the killers would then come into the library and proceed to slaughter 10 students (2 additional students outside, Rachel Scott and Daniel R. + one teacher, Dave Sanders) and then eventually themselves. RIP to all of the victims of this horrible day in history.

    • @rippindrummer666
      @rippindrummer666 Рік тому +5

      @ViNNYDICEnice That lady must have severe ptsd knowing that telling those kids to get under the desks was probably the worst thing she could have told them in that situation

  • @kristinachaney7391
    @kristinachaney7391 3 роки тому +522

    oh my gosh the trenchcoat mafia...they weren't even members. The real members were video game nerds. And who the hell approved that tasteless bullet hole graphic

    • @generalisimo3304
      @generalisimo3304 3 роки тому +5

      I thought it was cute

    • @mintycows3009
      @mintycows3009 3 роки тому +52

      @@generalisimo3304 No. Just no.

    • @kotikvtanke2349
      @kotikvtanke2349 3 роки тому +4

      Is that an anti-videogame comment?

    • @generalisimo3304
      @generalisimo3304 3 роки тому

      @@mintycows3009 ;(

    • @Draftspike
      @Draftspike 3 роки тому +8

      @@kotikvtanke2349 clearly it isn’t. She was just correcting an error they made in the news coverage

  • @ericmichaud1273
    @ericmichaud1273 2 роки тому +152

    Something I just noticed: the reporter at 0:45 is the same reporter who managed to capture the collapse of the South Tower on 9/11. Both him and his crew survived

    • @sol9843
      @sol9843 Рік тому +8

      I noticed that too

    • @sirclownsalot5800
      @sirclownsalot5800 Рік тому +8

      hey guys noticing is anti-semitic

    • @ericmichaud1273
      @ericmichaud1273 Рік тому +13

      @@sirclownsalot5800 maybe the real anti-semitism was the friends we made along the way

    • @sirclownsalot5800
      @sirclownsalot5800 Рік тому +3

      @@ericmichaud1273 indeed

    • @UnkleKnuck
      @UnkleKnuck Рік тому +5

      Great eye dude seriously

  • @evierodriguez82
    @evierodriguez82 Рік тому +138

    I can never forget this. I was 17 and a junior in high school when this happened. I remember my heart breaking for what had happened to the students and staff whether deceased or living and also their families. Fast forward 20+ years later and this continues to happen very sad.

    • @vanillyssweet777
      @vanillyssweet777 Рік тому

      You were there? My God!!! How was it for you?

    • @evierodriguez82
      @evierodriguez82 Рік тому

      I wasn't. I was going to high school in NY.

    • @chrishansen2100
      @chrishansen2100 Рік тому

      Amazing they have done nothing in 20+ years to prevent this from happening.

    • @zdavidzz
      @zdavidzz Рік тому +1

      @@vanillyssweet777 smh did you even read what she said. she said she was a junior when it happened

    • @NorskaFjordskaOfficial
      @NorskaFjordskaOfficial 11 місяців тому +1

      Oh damn

  • @majestic5727
    @majestic5727 4 роки тому +102

    That "High school massacre" card looks like something off of Family guy making fun of High school musical

  • @schmootheonly
    @schmootheonly 4 роки тому +292

    I was 16 when this happened, we all thought that they'd start putting metal detectors in all the high schools even in Canada.

    • @Super122291
      @Super122291 4 роки тому +2

      U old man get out

    • @schmootheonly
      @schmootheonly 4 роки тому +42

      @@Super122291 🥺 that hwut my feewings

    • @Urban-Decay841
      @Urban-Decay841 4 роки тому +51

      @@Super122291 If he's old and I was 16 in '78. What does that make me? An Egyptian pharaoh?

    • @dyllpickleproduces9588
      @dyllpickleproduces9588 3 роки тому +8

      @@Urban-Decay841 percisely

    • @jasonliddell2752
      @jasonliddell2752 3 роки тому +1

      @@Urban-Decay841 yeah, but you weren't 16 in '78 🤣🤣

  • @oliviettejohnson6465
    @oliviettejohnson6465 3 роки тому +284

    my heart goes to all the victims that day. dead or alive🙏❤️

    • @jordan12118
      @jordan12118 3 роки тому +20

      Facts. Prayers to them and their families

  • @JosephineOlah
    @JosephineOlah 4 роки тому +318

    Can you imagine how their parents feel. If my kid ever did that I wouldn’t not what to do

    • @lizzychrome7630
      @lizzychrome7630 3 роки тому +48

      The only situation you would truly regret having your child.

    • @The.tingler.slingingslasher
      @The.tingler.slingingslasher 2 роки тому +18

      Dylan’s mom hoped her son would be killed so he wouldn’t hurt more people

    • @michaeIaa
      @michaeIaa 2 роки тому +7

      Dylan klebold’s mom did a tedtalk about it. You should give it a listen but just a tw for anyone

    • @virginialane8847
      @virginialane8847 2 роки тому +5

      one of the moms did a ted talk about it. she said she blames herself for it for not noticing that there was something wrong with him earlier

  • @kcrutch4075
    @kcrutch4075 3 роки тому +75

    My wife & I went to the memorial behind the school last year. Such an eerie feeling surrounding the place. Such a quiet suburban school turned into chaos.

    • @blackflag5148
      @blackflag5148 3 роки тому +4

      The world is filled with chaos. Deal with it

    • @kcrutch4075
      @kcrutch4075 3 роки тому +2

      @@blackflag5148 👍🏻

    • @blackflag5148
      @blackflag5148 3 роки тому +2

      @@kcrutch4075 👍✌

  • @forestrot666
    @forestrot666 2 роки тому +54

    I was a kid when this happened, almost 9 years old. I have friends now in my 30s, who were a handful of years older than me who remember being ousted for wearing similar clothing but literally just being nerdy DND kids from the 90s. I remember being picked up early from school because of this. In early 2005, I was apart of a high-school shooting that wasn't even like Columbine because of the police being right up the street and having multiple officers because I went to a school in a iffy area. This is still something that stays with me to this day.

  • @andystephenson647
    @andystephenson647 2 роки тому +27

    N.J. Burkett reporting on this was at 9/11 and at the foot of the south tower as it collapsed. An outstanding reporter.

  • @kingharlaus43
    @kingharlaus43 3 роки тому +147

    I was at little league football practice when I heard about this. Overheard some parents talking about it - I remember being shocked as to how it could happen at a school. My tiny mind was so confused.

  • @apoorvasolanki8124
    @apoorvasolanki8124 3 роки тому +509

    When Dylan mother spoke that broke my heart why because she was a good mother it was not her fault. Also the victims too

    • @Yo30000
      @Yo30000 2 роки тому +35

      If Dylan was never close to eric he wouldn’t had been involved in it, he could’ve been saved, but sadly his mother just didn’t know, there was no way she could’ve known, now I think Eric’s garage was the one with the bombs because he was crazy and was just angry, Dylan only did it for suicide, I wished she would’ve known but there was no way of knowing

    • @CatherineDoII
      @CatherineDoII 2 роки тому +6

      @@Yo30000 The columbine shooting was Dylan's idea actually. He wrote his diary that if he will get a gun, he would "go to a killing spree against anyone I want." And this was over a year before columbine shooting.
      And it was Dylan who said to Eric how cool it would be to shoot their school.
      But Eric was dominant, yes. But I think Dylan really wanted to kill those people. They thought themselves as a God and they needed to show ppl who is superior now. They were both in on it.

    • @backpackzak8448
      @backpackzak8448 2 роки тому

      @@Yo30000 very true, Dylan was suicidal. Eric was homocidal

    • @nutty9096
      @nutty9096 2 роки тому

      How about you all stop simping for Dylan’s mommy and accept the fact that those two were degenerate pieces of filth? Everyone always says Eric was the only villain, oh but not sweet little Dylan. Susie had to go through the five stages of grief but she’s been stuck at stage one since this all happened. Sad.

    • @laosbazinga9683
      @laosbazinga9683 2 роки тому +1

      Where in the video did she speak??

  • @Tdore01
    @Tdore01 2 роки тому +47

    2:37 he’s covered in blood… he must have seen so much… I feel so bad for all these kids. The devil is real … be careful

  • @nut1909
    @nut1909 4 роки тому +230

    2:27 oh boy those are some 1999 eyebrows

    • @Goldrunner1169
      @Goldrunner1169 4 роки тому +5

      Lol

    • @Firepaw20011
      @Firepaw20011 4 роки тому +24

      That was the fashion of the time. Gtfoh.

    • @MeowmeowAlexandra
      @MeowmeowAlexandra 4 роки тому +48

      Inappropriate comment

    • @ryuzakiazzouz6964
      @ryuzakiazzouz6964 4 роки тому +5

      Better than butterfly Erwin Smith looking brows nowadays

    • @lilyismoody165
      @lilyismoody165 3 роки тому +26

      Not really the time/place. Especially with the things this girl was saying.

  • @coltino99
    @coltino99 Рік тому +20

    23 years later and it’s still happening….

  • @mootpoint7053
    @mootpoint7053 5 років тому +226

    Crazy to think that this coming 4/20 marks 20 YEARS!!!

  • @DiaryofKylie
    @DiaryofKylie 10 місяців тому +5

    The bulletholes in the notebook paper as a background is pretty inappropriate

  • @greedgreed4411
    @greedgreed4411 3 роки тому +89

    'I wouldn't say anything to them, I would listen.'

    • @Loloff210
      @Loloff210 3 роки тому +8

      Marlin mason was spot on, but everyone wanted to blame him🥺

    • @theshockerpit7274
      @theshockerpit7274 3 роки тому +7

      Yeah that’s what the media does if it happens they try and find someone who they think is evil and try and point them as a real bad person

  • @FootballLad
    @FootballLad 3 роки тому +77

    Just think. These guys murdered others and went “wooooooo” when they did. Just loving their last hours on earth whilst ruining many others

  • @claudioprudente3297
    @claudioprudente3297 3 роки тому +205

    R.i.p My Cousin's Friend Corey The shooting Victim he was a good friend for her and She was in Columbine High school she survived the Columbine shooting when she runned Outside of the school With her hands up R.i.p the victims who died

    • @simplynoobgalaxy5033
      @simplynoobgalaxy5033 3 роки тому +1

      RIP indeed...

    • @clxwn_dud3158
      @clxwn_dud3158 2 роки тому

      RIP to him, he was a good man 💕🌸

    • @retrofilmwork
      @retrofilmwork 2 роки тому

      @MintyMrSheep rip = rest in peace

    • @retrofilmwork
      @retrofilmwork 2 роки тому

      rest in peace

    • @cheliyahshelley459
      @cheliyahshelley459 2 роки тому +5

      @MintyMrSheep Corey, the cousin's friend died. But the cousin lived when she ran outside. The R. I. P. was for Corey not the cousin.

  • @darkino8326
    @darkino8326 4 роки тому +111

    0:43 that's the same guy who records the world trade center collapse from the base, right?

  • @ScottJarreau
    @ScottJarreau 4 роки тому +181

    Man did they have it all wrong; even the smallest details. Eric and Dylan didn’t actually wear trench coats- they wore black dusters. The trench coat mafia wasn’t anything more than a group of nerds who liked dressing like they were in the Matrix. They weren’t violent, they weren’t goths, they didn’t wear makeup or nail polish- they just wore trench coats and shades to school. Eric and Dylan were not in the Trench coat mafia. Dylan was friends with one of them. That’s it. / Eric and Dylan didn’t have a hit list- they literally tried to kill as many people as possible with bombs that didn’t go off. When that failed, they resorted to shooting the place up and got bored 17 minutes into the attack. Killing up close in person is different than from a distance. They started roaming the building shooting at the walls and ignoring students who were still in the building and very much in the line of Fire. 90% of their plans failed including how they wanted to die. They wanted to die either blown up in their cars or in a shootout with police. The car bombs didn’t go off and the cops couldn’t hit them. So they shot themselves. They predicted that no one would understand their motives and that they would change things forever and they were right.

    • @__-du8qo
      @__-du8qo 2 роки тому +2

      and i thought i knew alot about this

    • @NoahL2887
      @NoahL2887 2 роки тому +2

      But seriously they were bored like if ur gonna kill people don’t stop because ur bored like u just killed people like come on

    • @SP-2317
      @SP-2317 2 роки тому

      Some of the TCM were violent and mentally unstable, and Harris and Klebold were friendly with several of them.

    • @ScottJarreau
      @ScottJarreau 2 роки тому +6

      @@SP-2317 Dylan was friends with roughly two of them and none were reported to have been violent at all. Unless there’s something in the Columbine report that I missed

    • @mbb1849
      @mbb1849 2 роки тому +3

      How do you know all of this? Where can I find these details? I’m trying to learn more.

  • @lauraMol89
    @lauraMol89 2 роки тому +86

    The fact the police didn't enter the building is sickening.

    • @LucyLovettLestrange
      @LucyLovettLestrange 2 роки тому +14

      They were heavily reamed for not doing so

    • @lauraMol89
      @lauraMol89 2 роки тому +4

      @@LucyLovettLestrange and so they should!

    • @flaysol7719
      @flaysol7719 2 роки тому +7

      They were in on it..

    • @claricegarcia7494
      @claricegarcia7494 2 роки тому +15

      This was one of the first mass shootings and were not fully prepared for something of this magnitude.

    • @lauraMol89
      @lauraMol89 2 роки тому +16

      @@claricegarcia7494 there's no excuse for how they acted, one father didn't find out his child died till the next day and one saw their dead child on the news before they were told my officers. Shame on them.

  • @gunier.j.kintgenanimations
    @gunier.j.kintgenanimations 2 місяці тому +2

    A relative of mine survived the shootings, he goes by the name of Mark Kintgen. He was hiding in the library after his lunch break when the attack started, He was shot in the head & the shoulder. He said that he heard them laughing during the event, saying things like "Oh look at his brains!". It's incredibly lucky he survived. After watching this, I'm starting to get a grasp of how horrifying of an event this was. The sad part is that school shootings are only becoming more common...

  • @jrmizzgaminglounge
    @jrmizzgaminglounge 9 місяців тому +40

    Had no idea NJ covered this story. That guy was everywhere. This takes me back to how horrific this was and how things at my school changed from that day. Almost 25 years. My heart goes out to those victims that didn’t even need to die.

    • @audriella2408
      @audriella2408 9 місяців тому +9

      Right he was there when the south tower collapsed too

    • @orlandorodriguez4908
      @orlandorodriguez4908 8 місяців тому +1

      That man have seen some stuff

  • @Loona226
    @Loona226 Рік тому +7

    I was there! 556 School shooting since Columbine and still NOTHING HAS CHANGED

  • @Idfkdudecool
    @Idfkdudecool Рік тому +14

    I dont think a single person expected this to be the norm today

    • @MsTinkerbelle87
      @MsTinkerbelle87 Рік тому +1

      Clinton should have tho…should have just banned guns.

    • @theshockerpit7274
      @theshockerpit7274 Рік тому

      @@MsTinkerbelle87 Yeah, but if you did that other problems would come with it and it wouldn’t really fix problems Shoria like how in America, they banned alcohol, but it just cause even more problems

  • @SheHateBlu
    @SheHateBlu 2 роки тому +174

    I'm 13 and I never knew about this and it makes me sad and emotional.

    • @davidjamesr2554
      @davidjamesr2554 2 роки тому +9

      I was 11 when this happened I remember watching the tv coverage. This is (unfortunately) modern American history, they don’t show you this in school?

    • @Ben_Porta
      @Ben_Porta 2 роки тому +5

      I wasnt even born yet when this happened and I’m almost 20 now. I heard stories about it when I went through my first lockdown drill

    • @LondonTraveler358
      @LondonTraveler358 2 роки тому

      @@Ben_Porta remember 9/11

    • @_ripVanWinkle_
      @_ripVanWinkle_ 2 роки тому +1

      Im 7

    • @Aaroncarter55726
      @Aaroncarter55726 2 роки тому +2

      I was 6 years old when it happened, I was shocked when I saw it on the news.

  • @UKMessi1
    @UKMessi1 3 роки тому +194

    2:38 that kid got blood splatter over him, wow he was lucky to make it

    • @lalalalalalwlla
      @lalalalalalwlla 2 роки тому +22

      If I'm not wrong, that would be Brian Anderson. He was exiting school at the same time as teacher Patti Nielson (who was going out to see what is going on) and they were shot at through the glass door.
      They ran to the library and he hid in storage room of the library.

  • @kaa6734
    @kaa6734 3 роки тому +126

    Today marks the 22nd anniversary of the shooting it seems so fresh for 2021 God bless our children we lost and for our whole community bless our whole country

    • @kaa6734
      @kaa6734 3 роки тому +1

      And in nine days will they be the anniversary of the Albertsons shooting where we lost three lives in my life was changed forever being in the store

    • @kaa6734
      @kaa6734 3 роки тому +1

      Actually the date was April 29 1995 please remember and respect the lost people and sheriff and pray for the people that were in there

    • @DTB1995
      @DTB1995 3 роки тому

      And this year will be 20 years since 9/11

    • @kaa6734
      @kaa6734 3 роки тому

      @@DTB1995 thank you bless them all

    • @kaa6734
      @kaa6734 3 роки тому +1

      @Airbus A300 yes you can distance learning but whatever you're in a grocery store and they start shooting what is your recourse then? I went into a grocery store and the man killed three people I'm traumatized every time I go into a store I hope you understand this my friend I own a gun too

  • @deadliestchic8768
    @deadliestchic8768 5 років тому +94

    Then why the hell did Dan Rohrboughs (I hope I spelled it right) family find out about his death in the frickin news paper?!?

    • @goldenkid0074
      @goldenkid0074 4 роки тому +7

      because they were never called or informed

    • @bgalavizful
      @bgalavizful 3 роки тому +4

      I ask that too. I also wonder why they removed Rachel's body so quick and not Dan's?

  • @manicpixiecoffeelovr
    @manicpixiecoffeelovr 2 роки тому +27

    another one happened today... sad that nothing has changed

    • @vibrantgleam
      @vibrantgleam 2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely nothing. 😭😭

  • @treasureking3454
    @treasureking3454 3 роки тому +28

    This is why I rather do online school

  • @taimalik1110
    @taimalik1110 2 роки тому +13

    watching this after Uvelde, Texas May 2022

  • @Facelessman254
    @Facelessman254 5 років тому +93

    0.40 I remember seeing that news reporter guy stood in front of the twins towers doing news coverage when one of them starting collapsing...

  • @helltwin3383
    @helltwin3383 2 роки тому +10

    Remember seeing this on the News, still fresh as it just was barely yesterday.

  • @iamhappy679
    @iamhappy679 9 місяців тому +10

    Rest in peace to those who died during school shooting
    So sorry to their loved ones
    This is heartbreaking
    Thank you to the parents, nurses , teachers, staff for trying to help during this heartbreaking period 🤍🕊

  • @lauratogu7996
    @lauratogu7996 3 роки тому +39

    1) They were not part of the trench coat mafia, Eric and Dylan just also wore trench coats due to their favorite movie.
    2) Eric and Dylan were bullied. However, not more than others. Apparently bullying was rampant in Columbine in general.
    3) The bullying, the toxic mindset that comes with being a teenager and both their mental illnesses were a explosive combination that led to this.
    4) Do not see Dave Cullens book as the Bible on this. Sure, read it but take it with a grain of salt. He has completely dismissed some hard evidence and multiple people (such as friends of the shooters or some of the teachers) said that he misconstrued their testimonies.

  • @haydenwater5845
    @haydenwater5845 Рік тому +7

    those graphics used over and over by the news station depicting school paper with bullet holes in it seemed appropriate and respectful

  • @sleepyguts128
    @sleepyguts128 3 роки тому +274

    The most sympathy goes to the parents of the shooters. They lost children too, but unlike others, they receive little sympathy, and must be embarrassed of their children

    • @tee50252
      @tee50252 Рік тому +12

      they should’ve done a better job at raising their children.

    • @despacito377
      @despacito377 Рік тому +9

      @@tee50252 this kids got bullied... it has nothing to do with parenting 🙄

    • @tee50252
      @tee50252 Рік тому +11

      @@despacito377 okay but the most empathy should not go to their parents, it should go to the parents of victims

    • @despacito377
      @despacito377 Рік тому +3

      @@tee50252 that I will not argue with you.
      I always wonder what's life after an act like this for the families of the criminals 🤔

    • @tee50252
      @tee50252 Рік тому +9

      @@despacito377 it’s obviously terrible, but i do think the parents could do something to maybe prevent it

  • @chadwilliams9141
    @chadwilliams9141 4 роки тому +54

    💀💀💀💀💀 at the story card for the report jesus who thought that was appropriate

    • @Mster_J
      @Mster_J 3 роки тому

      That’s what lots of killers want. To be remembered. Instead of glorifying the killers they should focus more on the victims so that the killers would be forgotten be denied the attention they wanted

    • @bigdaddybuttmaster69
      @bigdaddybuttmaster69 2 роки тому

      @@Mster_J it's stupid to think that attention is their goal.

    • @Mster_J
      @Mster_J 2 роки тому

      @@bigdaddybuttmaster69 Maybe not their main goal but lots of school shooters were outcasts who felt they didn’t have a voice and no one cared or gave them any attention. By shooting up schools, their voice are finally heard, just in a different way

  • @armandoenriquez1104
    @armandoenriquez1104 5 років тому +45

    Now, 20 years later.

  • @AlexDroog71
    @AlexDroog71 4 роки тому +96

    Don't bully people. Not all people are going to be rational about how they deal with being bullied.

    • @bpaige925
      @bpaige925 3 роки тому +74

      These boys were bullies much more than they were bullied.

    • @Thatguyjack758
      @Thatguyjack758 2 роки тому +4

      @@bpaige925 there certainly was an aspect of radicalization among klebold and Harris. Harris embraced white supremacy and klebold became nihilistic. They were definitely bullied constantly.

    • @clxwn_dud3158
      @clxwn_dud3158 2 роки тому +16

      that doesn’t even excuse the murder of 15 innocent people.

    • @hughjanus5729
      @hughjanus5729 2 роки тому +2

      @@clxwn_dud3158 yes it does , don’t want to be murdered ? Don’t bully class mates

    • @cutefluffball
      @cutefluffball 2 роки тому

      @@hughjanus5729 get help

  • @bdayishere1018
    @bdayishere1018 3 роки тому +26

    My moms friend was in that school when it happened he survived but hes scarred for life

    • @badgirlhollywood9741
      @badgirlhollywood9741 2 роки тому +1

      What kind of scars

    • @hdhshkajshx
      @hdhshkajshx 2 роки тому +3

      @@badgirlhollywood9741 mental most likely. it was a huge event and things like that will definitely mentally scar someone.

  • @ThePhreakass
    @ThePhreakass 3 роки тому +33

    I was shot there back then and still seem to come back to this video cause I can't believe this happened

    • @BigZMM
      @BigZMM 3 роки тому +7

      this is crazy bro hope you’re mental health is good

    • @raph2954
      @raph2954 3 роки тому +2

      whats your name then?

    • @Emily-oy2nq
      @Emily-oy2nq 3 роки тому +18

      @@raph2954 You shouldn't need proof dude, why isn't it believable? It was a pretty big school plenty of kids

    • @raph2954
      @raph2954 3 роки тому

      @@Emily-oy2nq because he was shot there

    • @Emily-oy2nq
      @Emily-oy2nq 3 роки тому +14

      @@raph2954 That's what I said.. He was shot there, you don't nedd proof, maybe he doesn't want to say his name because he doesn't want thousands of people finding him on other social media sights and get a ton of dms

  • @OmegaChase1002
    @OmegaChase1002 2 роки тому +12

    The more you blame things like video games, movies and internet, the more this is going to happen.
    Address the actual problem, and then things will change.

  • @Isabella-xw8cv
    @Isabella-xw8cv 3 роки тому +33

    I would’ve been terrified if I was in the library

    • @brianm2881
      @brianm2881 2 роки тому +6

      As opposed to all those other people who would have been calm and just continued with their studies.

    • @op-qs2pe
      @op-qs2pe 2 роки тому

      Good

  • @lalo-kt4te
    @lalo-kt4te 3 роки тому +22

    To this day some schools dont have metal detectors, I say every school should have metal detectors because you never know what will come through the door.

    • @personwhorethinkslifechoic959
      @personwhorethinkslifechoic959 2 роки тому

      actually no because it makes students self concious they should have like 1-2 armed officers thats it and there new tatics are not always used if columbine happened yesterday the bombs and shooting at cops would just be the same and the cops would wait outside

  • @NothingToPointOut24
    @NothingToPointOut24 3 роки тому +10

    Lined paper with bullet holes lol. As if that day really needed any type of cutesy animation from the almighty MSM.

  • @RichterPhallos
    @RichterPhallos 3 роки тому +18

    Gotta love the bullet hole riddled notebook paper graphics. Keep it classy, WABC 👍

  • @belletim1086
    @belletim1086 2 роки тому +3

    Its not just about talking to ur kids, it should be more about listening more to them

  • @blockedname
    @blockedname 3 роки тому +16

    This is haunting.

  • @Jg88887
    @Jg88887 3 роки тому +10

    7:51 the Daily Mail headline "Why Dando's not so Blando any more"...this is an article about TV presenter Jill Dando. She was shot dead here in London just 6 days after Columbine happened & her murder is still unsolved. Just an interesting little detail.

  • @GalacticStudios69
    @GalacticStudios69 2 роки тому +3

    Idk what’s worse, the shooting itself, or the fact the news made a decorated sign to show “High school Massacre”

  • @lizzychrome7630
    @lizzychrome7630 3 роки тому +15

    I was 11 or 12. It was a long time ago, but that first female reporter looks like she walked out if 1977! I'm not *that* old!

    • @danielpartida8224
      @danielpartida8224 3 роки тому +5

      There was quite a bit of 70's nostalgia going on during the 90's.

  • @treasuretrails
    @treasuretrails 9 місяців тому +2

    The butterfly effect of this day is still being felt in 2023....

  • @Datgote
    @Datgote 2 роки тому +4

    Man, NJ Burkett certainly covered many events from reporting Columbine to seeing the South Tower collapse in front of him. Great reporter.

  • @drewthax8468
    @drewthax8468 Рік тому +6

    It’s crazy that the reporter at the high school was the same reporter that was Filming a news report when the south tower fell on 9/11

  • @TerminusEst1982
    @TerminusEst1982 3 роки тому +12

    "Some children died the other day. We fed machines and then we prayed. - MM

  • @_________......
    @_________...... Місяць тому +2

    The fact that the same news anchor was under the South Tower during 9/11, now hes reporting about dead kids. How did he go through all this??

    • @DEEP3X402
      @DEEP3X402 Місяць тому

      He’s being paid to go through that stuff.

  • @PPKNexus
    @PPKNexus 2 роки тому +19

    WOW! I had forgotten just how LAZY and IRRESPONSIBLE the reporting was about this whole incident. The truly pathetic maligning of groups and art that in actuality, had absolutely nothing to do with this tragedy is sickening to watch back.

    • @lucykhaos9439
      @lucykhaos9439 2 роки тому

      Ur so right,

    • @ct5625
      @ct5625 9 місяців тому

      I remember it well. Movies, video games, Marilyn Manson... the mass brain dead media were looking to blame anyone but the awful parents, school and cops who allowed this to happen. They all knew a year before this crime that those two boys were unhinged and making threats of mass murder, and they all continue to lie about being aware of it. Students went to school officials to tell them their names were on a "hit list". Klebold's parents were told by other parents that he was a violent sicko making public threats of mass murder. The cops even got a warrant to search Harris' house and found a pipe b*mb. All of these people then lied about all of these facts after the crime, because none of them wanted to admit that their mass incompetence allowed this crime to happen.

  • @krissymconnorsvlog7321
    @krissymconnorsvlog7321 2 роки тому +13

    It makes me sad that this is still happening today !! 😭🥺💔

    • @armin_1874life
      @armin_1874life Рік тому

      World Wide

    • @GTA6VIGameguy
      @GTA6VIGameguy Рік тому

      It still will because most people won't take time to do anything to help the cycle will continue unfortunately

  • @SSS.1984
    @SSS.1984 5 місяців тому +3

    Remember being looked at more than usual afterwards...because I dressed in black & listened to Manson. The media should be held accountable for the abuse myself & others recieved in the wake of this crime.

  • @rufuspipemos
    @rufuspipemos 7 місяців тому +2

    Wild to think the surviving students are now 37 to 41 years old.

  • @mikeness8696
    @mikeness8696 3 роки тому +4

    The guys when arrived at the school
    Remember no more bullying!!

  • @josephhecht6331
    @josephhecht6331 2 роки тому +6

    Here's a (not so) fun fact... the reporter at 3:05 was also on-scene at the WTC on 9/11 two years later. He is famous for his close range news report and frantic escape as the South Tower collapsed. N.J. Burkett is his name.

  • @DefenseFren
    @DefenseFren 3 роки тому +3

    thank you for keeping the cause alive.

  • @MUZUKUN-YT
    @MUZUKUN-YT 2 роки тому

    What were these website urls? Due to the camera, it was hard to see. Have they been archived on the Wayback Machine?

  • @CrossOfBayonne
    @CrossOfBayonne 3 роки тому +9

    The whole entire thing was shocking even back then but this set in motion all policies school systems follow now such as unfortunately Zero Tolerance which got a lot of people including me for doing small problems.

  • @paulanunez1810
    @paulanunez1810 2 роки тому +11

    Here because four more students wanted to reanact the massacre 😞 I was born in 1999 I had never heard of this incident...so tragic

    • @darealpapajon
      @darealpapajon 2 роки тому +1

      Bullying and mental health problems arent a good mix

  • @nighter7881
    @nighter7881 5 років тому +23

    It’s all part of their plans

  • @daha3074
    @daha3074 5 місяців тому +2

    These people have to have been be really, really disturbed. Isolation didn't help either.

  • @gabster92
    @gabster92 Рік тому +1

    I was a kid that barely came from school with my mom when Columbine happened, it was a terrifying moment and it was ongoing in the news. Its gotten worse over the years, Santa Fe and Uvalde being the biggest in my state, (Santa Fe being the closest to me). My husband and I panic every single time we hear a shooting or bomb threat since it happens in our son's school and district every few months. We're at the point of considering home school for our son to avoid any fears in the future for all three of us. Even our son gets terrified of going to school after the shooting and threats at school.

  • @kristilynn8755
    @kristilynn8755 3 роки тому +11

    Trench coat mafia had nothing to do with this. Good coverage but lots of ill informed details

  • @InfernalLeo777
    @InfernalLeo777 3 роки тому +3

    Imagine being in sick

  • @makennacochran241
    @makennacochran241 3 роки тому +2

    So heart breaking

  • @thewhisperingeye.
    @thewhisperingeye. 3 роки тому +4

    22 years ago, today.

  • @NaomiCantora
    @NaomiCantora 10 місяців тому +3

    It’s crazy how this was one of the 1st major school shootings and nowadays it’s such a normal thing to hear about now. Just so damn sad. 😞

    • @douknodawae3919
      @douknodawae3919 10 місяців тому +1

      a story of people pushed to their limit. people still dont respect the mentally disabled after this warning and many others, year after year. what will it take??

  • @mel_zzz_
    @mel_zzz_ 2 роки тому +7

    People talking about " That's why bullying is bad " when the main issue is MENTAL HEALTH and the kind of treatment your parents/guardians give you... just see what happened with Ethan Crumbley he was neglected by his own parents...

    • @twisttwistamigo
      @twisttwistamigo 2 роки тому

      Tbh mental health issues are likely caused by bullying

    • @elizabethsmith3374
      @elizabethsmith3374 2 роки тому

      These "people" weren't bullied they were the bullies it was later reviled that was the case

    • @vice2versa
      @vice2versa 2 роки тому +1

      The people who tend to be bullied are people with MENTAL HEALTH problems. Bullies sense the weakness and use that to taunt and ridicule the person making their mental health problems even worse. Also parents are NOT our only i fluences in our lives. I dont know why people like you keep repeating this.

    • @vice2versa
      @vice2versa 2 роки тому +1

      @@elizabethsmith3374 thats wrong dude. Friends of the two said so themselves that Eric and Dylan were bullied severely.

  • @codyives5409
    @codyives5409 2 роки тому +7

    There were more mass shootings in between Columbine and Virginia Tech (2007), but I can’t remember hearing about them… But nowadays everyone seems desensitized to these stories.

  • @jonezzzyyy6192
    @jonezzzyyy6192 2 роки тому +3

    23 years ago that happened..wow I remember it like it was yesterday, I was in 6th grade. I remember being afraid someone would try and copy them and it would happen in our school. After this happened we got several bomb threats, kids would call them in so it would cancel school

  • @aprilcouvillion6167
    @aprilcouvillion6167 4 роки тому +20

    In memory of all at Columbine

  • @ItzKweenAddie
    @ItzKweenAddie 3 роки тому +3

    I was a sophomore when this happened n watching it during school! I couldn't imagine it happening with my school!

  • @pamelajackson69
    @pamelajackson69 2 роки тому +1

    Several years ago a school shooting occurred at the high school I attended. Except this shooting was done by the school resource officer (also a local police officer) who shot and killed a deranged man who entered the school, following a student who was late getting there. The school immediately went into lock down and the resource officer confronted the man who was armed with guns and intent on using them, in the hallway. She tried at first to diffuse the situation but when she was unable to do so she shot & killed him before he could endanger anyone else. The school was Sullivan Central High School in Blountville, TN. The officers name is Carolyn Gudger, and in my hometown she is a hero. She is the perfect example of what a school resource officer should be. A courageous woman who did her job, putting her life on the line for the students/faculty she was hired to protect. I was very disappointed that there was not a lot of media attention surrounding this incident, except for locally of course. I just really wanted people to see what a difference having a well trained, courageous police officer who takes their promise to protect and serve seriously on campus can make in these situations. I share this story so that the world will learn about this hero that is among us by the name of Carolyn Gudger

  • @andreaelizaaa
    @andreaelizaaa 5 місяців тому +1

    The fact that they could’ve just graduated and left that school forever instead of doing what they did. Like bro. It was around the corner.