Horses on Campaign in Medieval Times | Logistics & Transport
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Description: In this video, Horses on Campaign in Medieval Times, Kevin Hicks delves once again into medieval history and explores the topic of logistics and care. How were horses, a major asset in any campaign, sourced and trained in medieval times for warfare? How were horses transported across the sea and used on campaign in France during the Hundred Years War? We also look at how they were cared for when they became ill or wounded.
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Book mentioned: Shipping the Medieval Military by Craig Lambert
I cannot recall the exact reference now, but I believe it is from an Allied WWII campaign where the ship carrying the cavalry/pack horses/mules for the invasion had to push the animals over the side (as you describe) to get them to swim to shore. Unfortunately, the animals grouped up and started swimming in the opposite direction, out to sea! The handler, thinking quickly and smartly, got out the bugle and sounded "retreat" at which point the animals turned around and swam safely towards the shore!
Wow, what a fantastic story, I love it. If you ever find the reference to it, let me know 👍🏻
I believe that was when the US invaded Cuba during the Spanish American War. There was no harbor or dock when the ships unloaded so they just made the horses swim to shore. They used the bugle to get them to swim in the right direction.
@@thehistorysquadthat's brilliant asking for references. Love the channel.
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I love his little intricately detailed models of the battle scenes and the full period garb. He is a treasure.
Richard the Lion Heart was a past master of logistics and supplies. He would beggar off a campaign if he could not sustain his army, especially the horses for the heavy and light cavalry.
Love your videos Mr Keven my favourite is the arrow removal from king Henry the 5th...
That was a good one, thanks 👍🏻
Wow never noticed how much preparation went into the getting the horses ready for everything at how many people it took thank you again Kevin it is always a joy to watch the amazing work and and your wife put into your videos you and your wife have a wonderful day thank you for the UA-cam channel
You've made me second guess bugger off. Aw no
@@ltipst2962 I think Anthony meant 'beg off', but that's not quite right because the king would be the one telling his marshals what the strategy would be, not the one excusing a change of heart.
I have never left a comment on youtube but without a doubt Mr Hicks is among the very best at this genre I have seen, his pieces are well researched and he is a natural story teller. As a history graduate originally and former army reservist (my own operational outing was Bosnia) he really strikes a chord with me. One of the very few who can really get beneath the surface of what it felt like to live, work and fight in past times. Quite outstanding work.
Wow, that's very kind of you Gordon. Thank you.
Modern history Channel is also one.
@@longsword1969 history squad tho has a very personal style to it, like you are the focus of the topic. Everything is geared toward you as a viewer. Rather than watching some history/discovery channel type presentation. 😉
The episode about horses was excellent. Where did thousands of starving dysentery ridden English on the road before Agincourt get the feed for even more thousands of horses?Also, Kevin could you do a detailed episode on your method of shooting a Longbow?
As someone who has a 16 hh mare that is generally regarded as small, it is absolutely wild to me how small horses were in the past. Sure, people were less tall as well, but putting a full grown man (plus armpur!) on a pony and expecting it to last the whole battle - that’s some mad respect deserved by the horse!
The knights were probably part of the nobility and aristocracy and had access to better food, particularly protein so they were likely to have been taller than peasants. There was also the idea that the higher ups had to eat food prepared in different ways from commoners' food.
Good stuff Kevin. My great grandfather survived almost three years at the Somme in the Great War. He was about a mile and a half behind the lines, looking after the horses. Came home without a scratch. Good old Grandad Von Staffenberg!
Cool!! My GGF is still there unfortunately.
@@thehistorysquad Sorry Kevin that German bit was just a joke. The rest is true. He did come home, physically unscathed. He was a Jones, from Ruabon.
Keep it up!
Sounds like they were in great care, Good one Granddad.
@@thehistorysquad thats a shame
This was incredibly interesting and something I had not given much thought to either. The logistics and planning required just to procure and transport the horses was immense, let alone the men, baggage train, weapons, armour and food!
While on the subject, can you imagine the huge cavalry forces the Mongols used to field, 30,000 men on horses or more. The amount of food and care required to do such a thing is truly mind boggling.
Thanks again Kevin.
Absolutely incredible 👍🏻
The Mongols typically started a campaign with four horses per man. Since the Mongols rarely if ever fed their horses grain, they reckoned that the horses needed three days of intermittent grazing on the move to have the extra energy to bear their man on the fourth. I have always wondered how they kept the horses straight or just assigned random horses each day.
Mongols moved across on vast grass plains to feeds their horses.
But at least they didn’t have to haul them over oceans.
@@leoscheibelhut940 and any horses that went lame they just ate and turned the rest into jerky so double win.
Count of the stable ,morphed into Constable! Its details like that that make these videos so interesting..Im definitely hooked !
I thought about this before and wasn't able to imagine "the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria" supplying the number of people on the voyage. I even considered most horses were probably very young ponies during shipping. Amazing stuff. Imagine them witnessing our modern efforts. Haha
@@osakarose5612 and they’re dirty and smell like bad BO from working and probably not bathing regularly
Ahhh as a farrier in Warwickshire this has become one of my favourite videos instantly. I’m far too fascinated with the types of horses in the medieval period 😂
Excellent, glad to hear it Sam, thanks. I used to ride with the Knights of Middle England at Warwick Riding School, I'm sure you'd be familiar 👍🏻
Brilliant episode, I am now more interested in the logistics of military campaigns than the actual battles, for without logistics no battle can be won or even started with any chance of success
I quite agree, you can find much information about more recent history, but Mr. Hicks explains al lot about the Middle Ages, a period often forgot.
I really love it. Mr Hicks really makes the puzzle complete. Wonderful information!
This is a very interesting subject Kevin. Growing up on a farm in Michigan, we had cattle & hogs. Most people don't realize the care that's necessary for a large herd of cattle. I know for a fact that a large steer or horse can suck down 5 gallons of water in just seconds when there thirsty. The logistics your discussing here would have been mind boggling for there campaigns. Thanks so much for this presentation.
My pleasure, thanks for your comment 👍🏻
i was totally engaged during this video, i really enjoyed it, i never could have imagined how involved it was.. wow
I love this type of history, makes the old times come alive. Logistics is cool
Enjoyed this and often visit the Royal Armouries in Leeds. I have 6 horses myself. The horse has served mankind well for centuries. The Boer War lasted 970 days and over 300 horses died daily. Few horses have returned from wars and the ordinary soldier couldn't afford to bring his beloved equine home.
That's the tragedy of it
@@thehistorysquad But maybe a boon for the local inhabitants of a battle area? The local people would have made use of the horse flesh and leather etc i would imagine? I wonder if, after a Battle, the local population would be getting their wagons ready to go out and gather up the poor creatures? Who gets to salvage the Armour and Weapons after a Battle? That would be a fortune worth of suits of Armour etc after a Battle. A shear fortune!
If i was a peasent back then, id be sitting at the side of the Battlefield just waiting for my opportunity to loot the unfortunates. If not even, id be getting an operation together to completely strip the aftermarth of a Battle. Youd be a fool not to!
@@dancummane3668 Here's a link to a video that covers battlefield salvage. If they had time, they would bury the horses. ua-cam.com/video/BHtBUDfI53I/v-deo.html
@@dancummane3668 Check out my video 'Striking it Rich' it's about plunder and how it was shared etc. 👍🏻
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😜 cheers buddy, it’s in the pipeline 👍
@thehistorysquad Excellent! I'm waiting in Portugal, shouldn't be too far to ship it lol.
This is one of the best channels on medieval history I’ve seen you deserve way more subscribers!
Wow, thank you!
We owe horses a lot for their various roles and contributions, throughout the ages. Kevin, you pick and present some great topics. Thank you.
Tempting 👍🏻
I adore listening to Mr. Hicks, I could watch these videos all day.
I think of the logistics of loading and carrying horses on a campaign, particularly on ship and I feel like Scrooge talking to Marley: “I’d rather not.” I have some experience with horses and riding myself, nothing like a great big charger but something that a yeoman might have; I think the closest we could get to one is an Icelandic pony. Not only have the Icelandics never been bread with another breed they have a special gait that is halfway between with canter and trot and the amazing thing is that gait barely bounces the rider so you can ride for quite a while with out getting sore or tired and for the ponies it’s almost like putting them in autopilot.
Great input Jodie, thanks. The gait being similar perhaps to the Mongolian horses.
Very nice use of models. Thank you for sharing this.
War horses in Medieval times also had a shorter back to keep the back from breaking in battle.
Yes, they've been described as being similar to the Hanoverian being short necked and short backed. 👍🏻
@@thehistorysquad Yes, that is what I have read, about them. I have seen horses that were bred to recreate them how close I don't know. All were, Roman Nose though they were somewhat head strong maybe they put some Bold Ruler in them,ha. I miss being able to ride horses. I don't have my horse she was a class of 93 track rescue, a great sweet gentle horse. I found the loading interesting, Sophie wouldn't have stood for it.
I'm part of a living history group in Alaska that builds a 14th century English village every year, and you've been a great source of information. If you're ever in Anchorage in June, drop us a line!
Wow Greg, thanks, I'll be sure to do that 👍🏻
Thanks for yet another fascinating video and for taking the time to illustrate it with your beautiful models. So many points I hadn't considered, especially regarding the loading and unloading of these magnificent beasts. The image of grooms swimming dozens or even hundreds of horses to shore is captivating.
It really is quite wow isn't it. Thanks for watching Chris 👍🏻
Great video! I'm trying to wrap my mind around the vast amounts of stables,training yards and sheer numbers of horses it would take to field an army. Not even speaking of the farm horses and just horses anyone rode. Massive amounts of land must have been dedicated to horses. Amazing!
I think I learned more from this 20 minute video than in all my 4 years of high school history
Amateurs study tactics -- Professionals study logistics.
Thank you for sharing.
Funny, I was just wondering about this very topic. Excited to jump into the video. Thanks as always.
Cool!
Again a highly informative video! Never realized the origin and meaning of the "constable". And your models are spot on like always.
Glad you like them!
A very interesting lesson on something very important to any campaign, movement and logistics! Thanks Kevin, for the important tidbits. Cheers from Texas.
Glad you enjoyed it David & thanks as ever for your support 👍🏻
Love this, thanks Kevin! No idea what had to happen with horses back then!
I’m a horse woman in Colorado. This is fantastic! My show horse pedigree goes back to the 1600s in England. Please do more of this! Thank you so much❤
Brillant. Very well explained. Years ago I met a fella - Charlie Pasco, I think was his name - who once brought and sold horses for the British army in Inda. He told my husband and I many things about the selection, and breeding of the horses he had always called Bounders. History knows them as Walers (Australian stockhorses of colonial bloodlines) We were traveling from the Northern Territory to NSW (with a Waler, bred wild/feral in the NT. and my Anglo Arab) at the time and were stopped in Queensland for a couple of days, I wish we could have spent more time with this fella. So many stories. He spoke a little about the logistics of transporting by ship from Aust. to Inda. One story I remember was of an Officer who wanted a piebald, so at length they did find and buy a piebald for him... which do you think was the first horse to die on that voyage!
I love these logistic videos, it’s a subject of the medieval times that I don’t think get enough attention. Keep up the great content!
Thanks, will do!
In addition, this knight would've had to have carrying capacity for his armor, tent, effects, and that of his squire's. He'd also have had to have room to carry for whatever plunder or ransom he may capture in battle. So I'd imagine he'd most definitely have more than one work horse in addition to his spares, his charger, his courser, and his palfrey.
The honey and wine on the horses was a very ingenious method. These people were smart. Thanks for the video!
Definitely a different subject and one I never considered before. Well done and thank you.
Interesting history! I also enjoyed learning the origin of the word “constable”. My husband has a lot of family in Mississippi involved in horse work. His nephew is a farrier, and the nephew and others have kept horses and done endurance rides. An uncle managed an Arabian horse ranch for years. It is amazing they moved those horses with what little they had back then!
Another fascinating video Kev!! I never knew this about the horses. I did know that jousting was a practice for a war situation. So obviously blacksmiths & farriers would have been taken on campaign too! A huge amount of organisation for a campaign as you've touched on before. Keep the great videos coming mate!
Dave.
Will do, thanks mate 👍🏻
I love all of your videos, especially when dealing with medieval history. But this one really got my attention. My dad was a farrier, so I grew up with horses and am always looking for details related to them in film. A little side note: farriers often have a bit of smithing knowledge. While the shoes are most often prefabricated, many farriers travel with an acetylene torch and anvil in order to shape shoes to a perfect fit. Thanks for all that you do, and keep them coming!
Cheers Jake, yes, I think I mentioned that the farrier would shape the blanks 👍🏻
I American from very early English and Irish Colonists. We have been farming here to this Day. My family raised Horses and Mules for Agriculture. I must say that none of this activity would have been possible without Mules and Oxen. They were important for hauling supplies. Just look at the reruns of Gunsmoke. Old Festus rode a Mule@!
You know...I've never seen a horse swim...wasn't sure they could....well why not! Crazy how complicated it all was...we never think of all this. Thanks! This is how we should learn history! Your awesome!
Thanks!
Love the strategy of using the wine and honey (18:58) as an antiseptic prior to injury on the legs of the horses. Your videos are always fantastic. Thank you!
Wow, what a fantastic story, I love it!! Thanks 👍🏻
I love horses. Very informative video! I remember Jason Kingsley over at ModernHistoryTV talking about the horses of a Medieval knight. Learned a lot from your video, too! 👍
WOW. That was extremely eye-opening, Mr. Hicks. We never learned any of this in school. Time for all of us to start a petition for you to receive the O.B.E.
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This is the only video I can find on UA-cam about medieval horses on ships.
Thank you for making your narrative so interesting.
It is INCREDIBLE how you Sir, focus on aspects that nobody explain and tend to forget or simply ignore. Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure!
Fascinating and really well presented. Thoroughly enjoyable.
I am an eventing rider. GREAT discussion of horse use & management in the medieval period! Thanks for the information! 😊
My pleasure Margo 👍🏻
Great to see visualised something one's been pondering on many times when reading history.
Fascinating as ever Kevin, thanks.
Sir let me just say, you were born to run a channel like this. The whole video i lost track of time and totally forgot what i was even doing or thinking about. Great job sir, great job.
Thanks so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
It blows my.mind how these men... achieved all of these amazing feats.. and think about all the people who needed to be on these ships to take care of these animals.. people solely there just to shovel all the manure the horses produce. Just amazing
This was wonderful as a horse woman myself and lover of medieval history. I've never seen such a comprehensive breakdown and the model was too much fun! Cheers from CA!
Thanks Carol! Glad you enjoyed it.
Mister kevin, your videos always cheer me up when im down and i dont know why but you always seem to capture my attention and interest. I thank you very much for everything you do.
How lovely, I'm happy to hear that!
I love the way you get into the practicalities of these things.
Fascinating Kevin thank you once again. Superb!🏴🇬🇧
As a horse owner and lover of history found this video absolutely fascinating. You are right don't think my would have thought about the logistics of taking horses to war. Thank you for sharing 👍
This has been a fascinating video. Thank you.
Those are things I have never thought about what a massive undertaking
Although I have absolutely no interest in horses ... you still manage to make me think ...
"give me more knowledge, I want ... no wait !! I NEED to know more about Horses on Campaign"👌
It's a real pleasure to see how must you enjoy telling stories and sharing your knowledge...
I get a bit of awe, when I think about how much work, research and planning goes into each and every one of your videos. .. for that I am truly grateful.🙏
many thanks for showing and please keep up the good work 👍
That's so nice of you, thank you. I also appreciate your joining our Patreon community and will write a note to later today.
One of few channels I have notifications on. Enjoy this lad educating me. It is so interesting to listen when the speaker habe genuine passion for the subject.
Excellent storytelling about the Medieval stabling!
Wish I had people like you as history teachers during my school time. I might have actually learned something.
Horses are such underrated and important animals in pre industrial society we should give them more credit. During Napoleons retreat from Russia and rebuilding of his grande armee the biggest issue he faced was reassembling new cavalry units. Soldiers can be trained in a few weeks and you will always find men willing to fight, horses however need to bred and trained far longer to be used as war animals on the battlefield.
These logistics vids are as interesting as the ones dealing with actual battles and maybe more so.
Thank you Mr. Hicks. This is one aspect of logistics that I have never seriously explored - but one so crucially important in Medieval times. I have learnt a lot.
Yes. You shown me how much a movie that portrays warfare on horses, leaves out.
Love your videos about all the medieval logistics. The scale is really amazing.
It is for sure 👍🏻
This video has great levels of kenergy
Fascinating! The logistics of these campaigns is always a surprise, remember reading that even the ordinary Mongol soldier had around 5 horses each, meaning an army could literally contain hundreds of thousands of horses!
The bit about the honey and wine I didn't know, definitely interesting, and it makes sense. thanks for the video Kev
Hey there again Kevin, I am currently working towards a horse training and care diploma and planning on following it through at university. Anymore horsey stuff you could do would be hugely appreciated.
Keep up the fantastic work!!
Will do, & good luck!
i did, in fact, enjoy this video about horses. I love the facts you got for us.
It's like moving a small city each time they went to a campaign
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Stuttgart Germany... Stuttgart (Stud Farm) the city that now boasts Mercedes started by breeding horses for the numerous commercial needs of medieval Europe. Great research Kevin, this was well thought out and very revealing.
Glad you enjoyed it. 👍🏻
@@thehistorysquad Yeah the logistics of war is so encompassing it bankrupted Europe to launch those crusades. But got to listen to the Pope!!! I can imagine the Kings and Nobles hissing as they hear news from Rome!!! Another Crusade!!! Oh Blimey!!!
Lovely, lovely, lovely video! I’d love one explaining the social aspect, what was the status and different ranks of knights, men at arms, etc. How did they live, what was their income and what did their children do when they became adults. These are things never explained and are a mystery to me
I was at the Hermitage and there was a temporary exhibition of mounted armored knights on stuffed massive tank horses. Sitting in front of that charging line of five knights in different armor kits (one was in black armor & white feathers), with a flimsy red cord barrier around them, really brought in what it must have felt to be a lowly footman about to get trampled. Truly scary, and brave of anyone facing such.
Very interesting. Being a horseman myself, I always wondered how they managed to get everything together to care, feed and get the horses to their destination. What a wonderful illustration! I always enjoy your history lessons! Brings history to life, so to speak!
Love your videos. I feel like i learn something, while have a bit of a laugh at the same time. 2:40 haha brilliant
Glad to hear it!
So happy that I found by chance this channel and Mr. Hicks. Sometimes mind blowing, sometimes weird (content as well as Mr. Hicks) but always interesting.
😂 thanks!
This is a fascinating subject. Thanks for covering it!
I've always been curious about this subject, thanks for posting this!
Awesome post Kevin! Thank you!
My pleasure!
Fascinating once again,....thank you Kevin.
My pleasure 👍🏻
Kevin I’m in the opinion you could talk about grass growing for 20-30 minutes and make it riveting. I really believe that. Every video is just like wow 20 minutes has passed, but I feels likes in only been 2-3 minutes. Absolutely amazing. You have a very special gift for gab. As my mom says. Even with your explanation being so detailed for a short video it’s just a wealth of information on whatever subject your discussing/explaining. It almost always leaves me disappointed, and craving more. Well done brother. One of the best channels on UA-cam. I wish we had your videos back in the days of vinyl records, and tape cassettes. Sure would of helped with my history classes! You would of made a brilliant teacher, or college professor. This from an old army ranger! Lead the way brother!
Haha, thanks Paul!!
I was trained to shoot a pistol by the American Army, my instructor was a grisly, old Vietnam Vet - a Ranger 😜
I was just pondering the transportation of horses in medieval times. Now I know!
I'm just reading some more today, Edward III for his final campaign into France, amassed 2000 wagons, each to be pulled by 4 horses, therefore 8000 horses just for the wagons alone (plus spares!). Amazing logistics......need to read further to see if he gets there 😜
Makes me wonder if they ever ransomed horses, when the charger was abandoned for a courser. Also what a cool image of a groom swimming the horses to shore!
That's right, any abandoned horses, carts, armour weapons would all become plunder. Check out my video 'Strike it Rich' 😉
Kevin, thanks for this very interesting history lesson on medieval horses. The model, like a picture. It paint’s a thousand words. Great piece 👍
Glad you enjoyed it Ricky, thanks 👍🏻
When You metioned the Stibbert museum i got chills, i was there on 2019 and oh sir you are very right to say it was "wow" amazing collection. Love your videos kind sir, was looking content like this for long time.
Cheers!
That's great to hear, many thanks 👍🏻
Absolutely astonishing stuff, marvelously organized, visualized & presented !! 👍
Many thanks!
Yay another good day when you post something Kevin.
Morning! Thanks 👍🏻
Fascinating. I would never have expected the logistics behind horse and cavalry transportation to be so illuminating, bravo!
I really love what you do with creating a miniature scene as u do idk a better way to put it but i love the videos.
What a great documentary/lecture. Thank you sir!
Your videos are both informative and entertaining, I love a good story!
Glad you like them!
Kevin, I love your models and your minis. Thank you for the tutorial. I found it fascinating.
Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
Thank you for deepening my education
Amazing, it boggles the mind just to think about it