The White/Black/Red color scheme isn't helping the matter. Should have gone with more orange for Holland, yellow for Germany, black for Prussia, blue for Estonia...
6:04 in Portugal's case, the fascist government only fell because of the military. They were tired of being sent to fruitless wars to keep African lands, especially Angola. As we saw previously, most of Africa was still under Europe's colonization and, while Angola is shown as Angola, its capital is not Luanda, but Nova Lisboa (New Lisbon), which might mean that the Angolan forces were subdued and there was no reason for the Portuguese military to go ahead with a coup.
i mean, the portuguese basically won in angola irl they were mainly failing in other countries (mozambique, guinea), and its only when the coup happened that they withdrew from angola. isnt it?
1:49 that's right and there's even more. According to the Treaty of Sevres (1920), Ottoman territories were roughly divided as such; Greece received Smyrna in İzmir and Thrace, France received Syria, southeastern and east-central Anatolia, Italy received large parts of southern and west-central Anatolia, Independent Kurdish and Armanian states in the eastern Anatolia, British had mandate of Iraq, Palestine, and Cyprus, And an international zone surrounding the Marmara Sea. So there was just left northern and north-central Anatolia for the Ottomans. Then the Independence War happens and we have the current turkish borders (not exactly tho but close enough).
@@misterec5834 oh sorry of course you’re right When a language is fluid it means it has a variety of meanings in sentences and words and rules that are similar to many other languages
2:40 I wonder what happened to Cameroon and Tanzania that they aren't ruled by Germany anymore... Cameroon has a different color and so does Tanzania (although it still says Germany right next to it). And is the Bismarck Archipelago still German? Do the Netherlands still control Indonesia?
I think that cameroon would have independence more easily than the others , I am Cameroonian born in Italy. the Germans did not have a very stable control over Cameroon already with the battle between the Bakweri (a tribe) against the German army, with the victory of the first, and because in Germany, since they treated the native Cameroonians so badly , they had to make reforms in 1907
I would say it would be because Namibia has around 2,5 million people (0,6 million in 1960). So if Germany sent there some settlers they could gain majority and keep it even if there was some kind of referendum. While population of Cameroon is above 25 million (5,1 million in 1960) and Tanzania 58 million (10 million in 1960).
@@stafer3 That could be a possible explanation, but I don't think that it is an important factor. I'll explain why I think so: -Ever since 1860s, Germany was Europe's most populated country (especially in its 1914 borders). Britain and France somehow managed to hold onto their colonies despite having a smaller population. -The decolonization in our timeline was a consequence of both world wars. The Europeans colonial powers were weakened to a point that they couldn't project their power across the globe anymore. Without the distraction through rivaling powers, the war(s) and the accompanying loss of life and destruction, the three major European powers would have developed exponentially. If anything, their grip on their colonies would have strengthened. And let's not forget that there would have never been the rise of communism and proxi-wars associated with independence movements and the cold war. -A colonial power doesn't need numerical superiority to stay in control. They gained control by applying force (specifically by multiplying their force through technological superiority like rifles, machine guns or canons). Besides, colonial rule is not necessarily a bad thing for the colony itself. A colonial power has an interest in the infrastructural and economic development of the colony and it brings foreign currency into the country.
In the if world war 1 never happened map , the British empire still basically exists All the independent former colonies including India are all most likely dominions such as Australia and a much more centralised Commonwealth kinda like the one in the 1930s and 40s probably exists That’s one issue I have with that map it doesn’t really show things like for example the commonwealth and Former french colonies that are probably have a dominion like status
7:33 Drew, wouldn't it make more sense so have the EU headquarters in a country without the most military power etc? Might be why it's not in France or Germany (or the Netherlands). So yea it would be interesting to see Belgium try something for only their own gain.
14:03 Fun Fact: The UK once thought of shipping all 5 million residents of Hong Kong to N.Ireland prior to the 1997 handover. The plan was called The Replantation of N.I. from HK
4:00, by the way, is a very well-developed map, even the names of the cities on it are the same as they were before the First World War. More precisely, cities in Russia. The fact is, if it were not for the First World War, then there would have been no revolution in the Russian Empire and the Communists would not have come to power and therefore would not have renamed many cities (for example Krasnodar ("krasn-" for "red"), which is on this map called Ekaterinodar)
@@mym2726 Not all of Anatolia, but Pontus, Ionia, Aeolia, Mysia, Bithynia and of course all the European lands of Turkey and islands had Greek majorities even in 1923. And significant Greek minorities lived in Cilicia, Caria, Lycia, Pamphylia, Paphlagonia, Pisidia, Galatia, Phrygia and Cappadocia.
@@georgios_5342 One-sided answer. Turkey had a significant Turkish population on European territory. In some of the places you mentioned, there was not a huge difference between the Turkish-Greek population. Because everyone lived in a mixed state until the war broke out in Anatolia. It is not possible to draw a clear boundary in this regard.
3:20 I feel like the deeper answer would be "technically yes, but not as we know it". Assuming Disney exists in this universe and assuming Japan isn't completely anti-US at any point, some people would have been influenced by Disney and create their own animations. WWII simply increased the potential market for anime due to the depression caused by Japan losing and being bombed by the US. In theory, some of the anime we have in this timeline would still have existed, there'd just be way less anime and it would be way less popular within Japan. Whether anime would become _internationally_ popular by the 21st Century and what it would look like at that point, who knows. But earlier 1920s-40s anime would definitely feel like a Japanese mix of Cuphead and Mickey Mouse, sorta.
Being from Oklahoma, I love the inclusion of Sequoyah as a country. I feel like most people don’t even know that that was supposed to be a state at one point.
_looks at every country which calls or called themselves communist/socialist_ I mean, it’s a fair assertion. Also, the name sounding similar to the USSR doesn’t help much
@@Isometrix116 I mean they are not the same thing, but thinking they are diametrically opposed concepts doesn't make much sense. Also, Cuba was pretty cool. Iran before the revolution I guess didn't call itself communist and they weren't, but they benefitted a lot from left policies until the US was all like: "Nah, son, you ain't doin' that on ma watch." And then there was Burkina Faso which was going pretty well until CIA and there is Bolivia, which is going good I think but I am not sure. Cuba is also still pretty good but the US is making it seem like they have a worse healthcare system than in the US, which is a pretty low bar. Anyways, I suppose you are somewhat right because some of these countries didn't call themselves communist/socialist specifically, but I felt the urge to go wall of text mode for some reason nonetheless.
@@ardabaser1349 You went from communism to just general leftism lol. Im thinking USSR, China (before their Singapore-style reforms) etc. Authoritarian, one-party states. USSR-style communism is universally this and with a name that implies that it is Soviet-style, thinking "authoritarian" isn't too far-fetched. USSR communism and free and open democratic elections are opposing concepts though. Easily. Without debate.
2:21 Russia be looking rather THICC on this map, it's eaten all the stans except for Afghanistan, as well as Ukraine, Manchuria, the Baltic, the Caucus region and Belarus.
The EU army map is real, that’s an opinion poll from member states. Britain was always against it. Guess it went up because Britain knew it was leaving and many think the EU should do more in protecting the east from Russia
2:07 I've seen the maap when it was posted and I've seen 97% of it and even though I'm not finish I've seen enough of the map to consider it my least favorite map of all time. It blows.
If ww1 never happened, Ecuador will still have a larger part of the Amazon that was lost to Perú in the war of 1941. The outcome of such war was strongly tied to the fact that ww2 was also going on. And, I'd ww1 never happened, ww2 woulnd either...
Fairly new to the channel. Been pumping though your videos really all over the timeline. But I’ve yet to come across this monstrosity of a hair cut. Bro what was you up to 😂. It’s just such a sharp contrast to the videos I’ve seen you release just this week
6:11 Pretty sure Yugoslavia, Greece and Turkey had a defensive alliance irl.All three of them worried about getting invaded by the Soviets. Then again, we're talking about alternate history in this video, could've not happened somehow.
Animei is the result of Japanese culture merging with American capitalism along with many other things that Japan has that we love. If there was no WWI that means there was no WWII which means there was no American occupation which means no animei
i like how drew calls the hansa league "prussia" just because he saw these borders
The White/Black/Red color scheme isn't helping the matter. Should have gone with more orange for Holland, yellow for Germany, black for Prussia, blue for Estonia...
@@haraberu Yeah, but Red and White makes sense since it is supposed to be the colours of the Hanseatic League.
More like Prussia is bi*ch to Lubeck in this timeline.
Can somebody let me know what that website is called?
Florida Man as a pirate is a very terrifying thought
Especially with there crackhead strength
Alligator pirates
I am a Florida man I could be pirate if I wanted but i dont feel like having the Government come after me.
@HTD Roblox 🇹🇭 Oh no mesa disappearing
Alligator cannon
"South America hasn't changed"
That's where you're wrong, the Paraguayan Bolivian border is more blocky
Can somebody let me know what that website is called?
@@theshowman22 youtube im pretty sure
As a Dutchman I'm not yet puking but I gagged when I saw that map
lol
Same, Fellow Dutch person here
Wich one?
I was disgusted when I saw “greater b*lgium”. And yes I didn’t write belgium capitalized.
@@someperson447 greater aetherland
2:48 How did he not see lake Mega-Chad?
We see it too. We just not Chad enough to mention it.
I’m a simple man, I see alternate history, I click. I see Drew reading alternate history, I break my screen from clicking.
**resuscitates your screen**
Day 42 of asking drew to sell vampire Romania plushie
@@Tzoga-gn3ci Same
Replying because I want to see this vampire Romania plushie
@@Tzoga-gn3ci k
Yes please
Replying because that's a great idea
Newfoundland and Labrador used to be a separate British dominion and didn’t join Canada until 1949
6:04 in Portugal's case, the fascist government only fell because of the military. They were tired of being sent to fruitless wars to keep African lands, especially Angola. As we saw previously, most of Africa was still under Europe's colonization and, while Angola is shown as Angola, its capital is not Luanda, but Nova Lisboa (New Lisbon), which might mean that the Angolan forces were subdued and there was no reason for the Portuguese military to go ahead with a coup.
Can somebody let me know what that website is called?
Smart
i think there was a communist revolution in france
i mean, the portuguese basically won in angola irl
they were mainly failing in other countries (mozambique, guinea), and its only when the coup happened that they withdrew from angola. isnt it?
@@tiaelago-oretukaumunika7017 Yeah, we're winning in Angola, Idk about Mozambique, but we're losing in Guinea
3:09 I like how Drew is Completely ignoring Manchuria
Northeast is always ignored
Also lake mega chad
@@lauradru102 and lake Congo
love these alt history maps
8:33 That is Askai Chin region. Caused by 1962 Sino Indian war
and that another part in the east is one of our countrys seven sisters 'arunachal pradesh' its still a topic of war for china
1:49 that's right and there's even more. According to the Treaty of Sevres (1920), Ottoman territories were roughly divided as such;
Greece received Smyrna in İzmir and Thrace,
France received Syria, southeastern and east-central Anatolia,
Italy received large parts of southern and west-central Anatolia,
Independent Kurdish and Armanian states in the eastern Anatolia,
British had mandate of Iraq, Palestine, and Cyprus,
And an international zone surrounding the Marmara Sea.
So there was just left northern and north-central Anatolia for the Ottomans. Then the Independence War happens and we have the current turkish borders (not exactly tho but close enough).
8:24 Holy cow , Drew!! That shaded area is not invasion of India its actually Arunachal Pradesh (state of india) "Claimed" by china...
Maybe in that post it's reversed
@@kamaldas2376 yeah
Right
2:07 i like that germany is still rockin the 👍
12:07 love that Glasgow has moved to where Edinburgh is
Was waiting for Drew's new video
Imagine the people in greater belgium having to get fluid in German Dutch Luxembourgish English and french
Now honestly, I wouldn't mind 😂
Fluent you mean?
@@justarandombird same but not anyone is a linguist
@@misterec5834 oh sorry of course you’re right
When a language is fluid it means it has a variety of meanings in sentences and words and rules that are similar to many other languages
@Suebian it would be fun
8:25 hk is still under uk territory
Drew: that’s just making me sad
Literally like half of the city’s population: *bruh*
@свевский
They ‘do’ want to be British.
@свевский They want British back
so drew just said he believed finland was under soviet control, amazing historical skills you have there
2:40
I wonder what happened to Cameroon and Tanzania that they aren't ruled by Germany anymore...
Cameroon has a different color and so does Tanzania (although it still says Germany right next to it).
And is the Bismarck Archipelago still German?
Do the Netherlands still control Indonesia?
I think that cameroon would have independence more easily than the others , I am Cameroonian born in Italy. the Germans did not have a very stable control over Cameroon already with the battle between the Bakweri (a tribe) against the German army, with the victory of the first, and because in Germany, since they treated the native Cameroonians so badly , they had to make reforms in 1907
And Namibia was the only part that was really setteled
When he looked at Ireland we would still have gotten independence
I would say it would be because Namibia has around 2,5 million people (0,6 million in 1960). So if Germany sent there some settlers they could gain majority and keep it even if there was some kind of referendum. While population of Cameroon is above 25 million (5,1 million in 1960) and Tanzania 58 million (10 million in 1960).
@@stafer3
That could be a possible explanation, but I don't think that it is an important factor. I'll explain why I think so:
-Ever since 1860s, Germany was Europe's most populated country (especially in its 1914 borders).
Britain and France somehow managed to hold onto their colonies despite having a smaller population.
-The decolonization in our timeline was a consequence of both world wars. The Europeans colonial powers were weakened to a point that they couldn't project their power across the globe anymore. Without the distraction through rivaling powers, the war(s) and the accompanying loss of life and destruction, the three major European powers would have developed exponentially. If anything, their grip on their colonies would have strengthened.
And let's not forget that there would have never been the rise of communism and proxi-wars associated with independence movements and the cold war.
-A colonial power doesn't need numerical superiority to stay in control. They gained control by applying force (specifically by multiplying their force through technological superiority like rifles, machine guns or canons).
Besides, colonial rule is not necessarily a bad thing for the colony itself. A colonial power has an interest in the infrastructural and economic development of the colony and it brings foreign currency into the country.
Me as German seeing the Video Title:
*Wunderbar*
(it means wonderful for none German speakers)
8:05 They didn't "lose control," Sri Lanka wasn't part of India to start with
In the if world war 1 never happened map , the British empire still basically exists
All the independent former colonies including India are all most likely dominions such as Australia and a much more centralised Commonwealth kinda like the one in the 1930s and 40s probably exists
That’s one issue I have with that map it doesn’t really show things like for example the commonwealth and Former french colonies that are probably have a dominion like status
2:54 Ah Akhand(United) Bharat*
*Happy Indian noises intensifies
:)
7:33 Drew, wouldn't it make more sense so have the EU headquarters in a country without the most military power etc? Might be why it's not in France or Germany (or the Netherlands). So yea it would be interesting to see Belgium try something for only their own gain.
I can imagine how everyone puked when they saw the map lmao
As a Hungarian, I liked it
@@insecurebee true
9:29 me as a persian I SEE THIS AS AN absolute win 11:04 AND THIS
These are the good endings,
But in Iran, nothing ends good...
@@monarchistheadcrab8819 yeah that is true if a reform or a revolution does not happen in the next 20 years in Iran its gonna be anarchy
14:03 Fun Fact: The UK once thought of shipping all 5 million residents of Hong Kong to N.Ireland prior to the 1997 handover.
The plan was called The Replantation of N.I. from HK
wow
6:17
The real question is; WHY ISN'T SWITZERLAND NEUTRAL?
Then my history teacher would shut up for once
@Aniruddh yeah he always talks about ww1
@Aniruddh Only if my teacher was like that ):
Lmao
@@blakefr Becareful what you wish for! =)
@@blakefr Shellshock is amazing imo.
The best disney What if episode
5:00 am I the only one who noticed a fly go by Drew's shirt
thats russian government trying to spy on Drew using Nano drones
@@harshit2.02 aight seems legit.
4:00, by the way, is a very well-developed map, even the names of the cities on it are the same as they were before the First World War. More precisely, cities in Russia. The fact is, if it were not for the First World War, then there would have been no revolution in the Russian Empire and the Communists would not have come to power and therefore would not have renamed many cities (for example Krasnodar ("krasn-" for "red"), which is on this map called Ekaterinodar)
I like the Alabama roots showing when he says “melk” instead of milk.
3:29 - what do you mean by "for no reason"? There was obviously another Russian Ottoman war with Greeks on russian side.
5:45 Doesn’t notice United Ireland
You ever notice how East Germany kinda the same shape as Ireland, even West Berlin's cut out is kinda Lough Neagh
3:38 well if you look to Bolivia and Paraguay you will see that Bolivia have a big part of Paraguay in the north
1:42 These were only SOME of the majority Greek regions in Anatolia. Of course there are others, like Pontus, but this was the plan of the Megali Idea
After the Greeks lost their Anatolian lands, they could not become the majority in Anatolia.
@@mym2726 Not all of Anatolia, but Pontus, Ionia, Aeolia, Mysia, Bithynia and of course all the European lands of Turkey and islands had Greek majorities even in 1923. And significant Greek minorities lived in Cilicia, Caria, Lycia, Pamphylia, Paphlagonia, Pisidia, Galatia, Phrygia and Cappadocia.
@@georgios_5342 One-sided answer. Turkey had a significant Turkish population on European territory. In some of the places you mentioned, there was not a huge difference between the Turkish-Greek population. Because everyone lived in a mixed state until the war broke out in Anatolia. It is not possible to draw a clear boundary in this regard.
12:12 Finland looks what it should be.
3:37 Drew, Paraguay
2:55
Just Makes Be Happy and Sad
😔😔😔😔😔
United india ✅🚩
Inner peace ✌️
@@Heaven_ascended yes
people need to realize Austria-Hungary technically started WWI, not Germany.
*serbia
@@TehFloridaMapper well yes but we don't know
14:04 the best part is the Japanesified city names.
My favorite is Lisburn becoming Rizubaan
Yeah, I loved "Tokyoderry" 👍
"Britain kinda supports an EU army"
*laughs in brexit*
Lmaooooo drew being a pure 15 year old and spending $15 on hair dye and messing it all up is so pure.
The border gore at 4:53
Ahhhhh my eyes
8:27 how’s that sad?! That’s the best thing!
Probably since China is democratic in that universe.
12:15 Me seeing the Philippines having North Borneo hehehe
Satisfied enough. I guess we get what we want now hehehe😁😁
As a Dutchie I would love that Greater Belgium.
Waffles & Stroopwafels. The world is not ready.
It's interesting how people think Portugal and Spain aren't warmongers. Well, the hospitality mask for tourists must be working.
4:28 the Allies actually did occupy Austria for a few years, before uniting it under one Austria
I think most hongkongers would have loved the China India switch world
12:12 lol, long-nose georgia with the extended apxazia
3:20 I feel like the deeper answer would be "technically yes, but not as we know it". Assuming Disney exists in this universe and assuming Japan isn't completely anti-US at any point, some people would have been influenced by Disney and create their own animations. WWII simply increased the potential market for anime due to the depression caused by Japan losing and being bombed by the US. In theory, some of the anime we have in this timeline would still have existed, there'd just be way less anime and it would be way less popular within Japan. Whether anime would become _internationally_ popular by the 21st Century and what it would look like at that point, who knows. But earlier 1920s-40s anime would definitely feel like a Japanese mix of Cuphead and Mickey Mouse, sorta.
7:41 Yes as a Dutch person, I was puking
1:39 I love the little Hagia Sophia
Happy Ottoman, German, Austro-Hungarian noises :-)
6:03 i like how he doesnt notice switzerland is in the eu
Being from Oklahoma, I love the inclusion of Sequoyah as a country. I feel like most people don’t even know that that was supposed to be a state at one point.
7:09 that is a weird way to spell Nederland.
lmao
The Akhand Bharat dream was fulfilled in that parallel universe
9:17 why was Georgia named Chattooga lmao
09:59 These are Khazars. It was a Turkic land around 10th - 11th centuries.
Yeah, Vice City. Will so GTA VI have pirates?
12:06 either someone doesn't know their cities of the world or the Glaswegians invaded and moved to Edinburgh then renamed it Glasgow
Canadas offical full name is the Dominican of Canada. Like rn Canada is known as that, so In that one America map, Canada would still be Canada
the portuguese dictator was called Salazar. the fact that other dictators never named an hogwarts house makes them 500% less chad
8:58 It is funny to see how the opposite of communism "being" democracy is so etched into his being.
_looks at every country which calls or called themselves communist/socialist_ I mean, it’s a fair assertion. Also, the name sounding similar to the USSR doesn’t help much
@@Isometrix116 I mean they are not the same thing, but thinking they are diametrically opposed concepts doesn't make much sense. Also, Cuba was pretty cool. Iran before the revolution I guess didn't call itself communist and they weren't, but they benefitted a lot from left policies until the US was all like: "Nah, son, you ain't doin' that on ma watch." And then there was Burkina Faso which was going pretty well until CIA and there is Bolivia, which is going good I think but I am not sure. Cuba is also still pretty good but the
US is making it seem like they have a worse healthcare system than in the US, which is a pretty low bar.
Anyways, I suppose you are somewhat right because some of these countries didn't call themselves communist/socialist specifically, but I felt the urge to go wall of text mode for some reason nonetheless.
@@ardabaser1349 You went from communism to just general leftism lol.
Im thinking USSR, China (before their Singapore-style reforms) etc. Authoritarian, one-party states. USSR-style communism is universally this and with a name that implies that it is Soviet-style, thinking "authoritarian" isn't too far-fetched.
USSR communism and free and open democratic elections are opposing concepts though. Easily. Without debate.
@@Isometrix116 Yeah I got carried away.
6:34 i like how my city is completely consumed
2:21 Russia be looking rather THICC on this map, it's eaten all the stans except for Afghanistan, as well as Ukraine, Manchuria, the Baltic, the Caucus region and Belarus.
But lose Poland and Finland.
Mongolia
7:50 - shouldn't India also control Tibet in this scenario?
India holds pakistan and Bangladesh rather than tibet and china suffering from an insurgency in tibet
Anyone know the website he’s on at 7:00?
Everyone: Milk
Drew: Melk
A Switzerland Plushie with Drew Hair would be cool
The EU army map is real, that’s an opinion poll from member states. Britain was always against it. Guess it went up because Britain knew it was leaving and many think the EU should do more in protecting the east from Russia
2:07 I've seen the maap when it was posted and I've seen 97% of it and even though I'm not finish I've seen enough of the map to consider it my least favorite map of all time.
It blows.
what if Germany won ww1>>what if Germany won ww2
At 6:29 what was the name of the website.
Day 11 of asking Drew to react to the Zambian Anthem
I feel like Vice City at the beginning is a play on the real nearby cities of Niceville and Valparaiso.
If ww1 never happened, Ecuador will still have a larger part of the Amazon that was lost to Perú in the war of 1941. The outcome of such war was strongly tied to the fact that ww2 was also going on. And, I'd ww1 never happened, ww2 woulnd either...
Drew just completely skipped over Lake MEGA CHAD?
3:36 Again, we would have a SQUARED CHACO
And why Brasília is now called "Vera Cruz"?
Fairly new to the channel. Been pumping though your videos really all over the timeline.
But I’ve yet to come across this monstrosity of a hair cut.
Bro what was you up to 😂. It’s just such a sharp contrast to the videos I’ve seen you release just this week
0:00 i don’t think 2 feet of water rise can do that much to florida
i love my melk. anyone seen my grandpas pells? where is my pellow
Drew: Sees something on an alt history map
Some thing bad mustve happened!!!!
6:11 Pretty sure Yugoslavia, Greece and Turkey had a defensive alliance irl.All three of them worried about getting invaded by the Soviets.
Then again, we're talking about alternate history in this video, could've not happened somehow.
With greece it also largely boils down to turkey
Animei is the result of Japanese culture merging with American capitalism along with many other things that Japan has that we love. If there was no WWI that means there was no WWII which means there was no American occupation which means no animei
Can someone link that Texas war website?
He didnt see lake mega chad at the if ww1 didnt happen map
The world would be much much better place.
conflict of nations is LITERALLY a modern version of Call of War if anyone knows that game
8:25 lol countries have past capitals kolkata and nanking
Can some one tell me the name of the website that drew was looking at the 2nd American civil war
I found the same map but Britain was a colonial empire again.. and france.. and.. so on (And i can't find the one on the vid) 2:06
6:25 where did you find this?
i am wondering the same thing
Turkey was shat on a lil in this video so I demand u make a video involving smaller Greece next