Should You Install Windows 11 On Unsupported Hardware
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Should You Install Windows 11 On Unsupported Hardware
Many people are still on old computers that don't meet the windows 11 system requirements, but should you install windows 11?
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Are you using Windows 11 on unsupported hardware? Let me know in comments below.
always here
Yes, I am, since windows 11 came out and never had a problem.
yes , i5 4670k
Since I.P. build, no issues of any kind.
yes since it was released
Happy with 10 Pro 100%. I am Unsupported for 11 and happily so. Although am interested in 12 down the road, hopefully. I can hardly wait for Windows 18.1 Pro when it rolls out. 🤣
I have a feeling that Microsoft will drop most of the restriction on Windows 11 when 10 expires. They may also do that when they announce 12. Otherwise they could be accused of artificially forcing people to buy new computers and causing e-waste.
Is it updating from within windows 11 settings normally like on a supported ones ?
@@3Toymine does I'm in 4th gen i7-4770
@@AidanMacgregor-Personal Thanks, I am with i7-6820hq and considering of upgrading
Especially when you consider that some processors that meet the requirements can barely run it while others that don't could run it with ease.
I have a feeling they won't. They are artificially forcing people to buy stuff, and they're not at all afraid of being accused of it. What's the worst that could happen to them? Do we think the corporate world will express their hurt feelings by converting to Apple? Or Linux? Microsoft doesn't think so. The truth is that, as long as we're running Intel and AMD hardware, we don't need new operating systems. The ones we have are working fine (at least until the next pointless update). And Microsoft (and Apple) have huge warehouses full of system programmers who have to do something. So they divide their time between breaking things that they can then fix and fixing things that aren't broken.
Hi Brian, I've been running windows 11 on 2 old basic unsupported laptops for about a year now and have not had any issues. In fact, I find they run better than on windows 10.
They could deactivate your OS at any time so you better back up your data.
@@TomokoAbe_ They could but they would get trashed on social media.
@@paulwarner5395 Do you honestly care Microsoft cares what people think? They have a monopoly in the computer industry.
@@TomokoAbe_ They will if their stock dives.
Which generation are they?
I have done it on 2 older computers, 1 was 2012, the other 2016, no worries and both work fine!
I am using Windows 11 on 6 computers that have unsupported hardware. I only have one computer that have supported hardware. I didn't have problems using Windows 11 on my old I7-4790k, I7-4790, I7-4770, Dell Precision T5500, Dell Precision XPS 9000, and a Dell Precision T1650.
Good video! I believe what Microsoft could do concerning updates on unsupported hardware is by enforcing license checks for hardware through the updates but then again that can be disabled through the registry unlesd they hardcoded tge requirements properly
Thanks for sharing
@@Britec09 you're welcome
Nope as Manufacturers like intel already pulled the "Support Plug" & intel Celeron 6th Gen was the one to do so
If using unsupported hardware is stopping automatic updates then using unsupported hardware would be a great to stop automatic updates. 😅
A great double edged sword. Double the advantages, quadruple the disadvantages.
Have to disagree with you point about people moaning about upgrading to a new system. I've tried most versions of windows since 98 and I remember how so many of those upgrades felt like actual improvements, and we looked forward to them. Stability and security made major leaps with both XP and 7, but since then it feels like we are just getting bloat, telemetry and other resource hogs. If it was a viable option for me I'd still use Win7, but it isn't and I switched to Win10 shortly after 7 went EOL. The advantage of waiting so long ensured that there were plenty of information and tools around to de-bloat 10 and tweak it so it actually feels decent to use...
Now when Win10 goes EOL I have not figured out what to do, enterprise support is meh as many games and other thing are likely to dump 10 once home and pro reaches EOL. Right now I'm rooting for Linux, improvements are being made at break-neck speed on compatibility and user-friendliness. I really hope that gets to a point withing the next two years where it'll be a viable option as Microsoft seems more focused on adding bloat and gathering user-data than providing actual improvements...
There are Linux distros focusing on user friendlyness. Linux Mint being one and its GUI is also very similar to older Windows like 7 (one might prefer it over Windows 11). Main issue with it could be support for newer hardware, but if one had newer hardware you could just use Windows 11, lol.
Another issue could be unique hardware not working since they are made to work on Windows.
Main issue with gaming is anti cheat so I dunno if you have to play various multiplayer games that uses that. But some online games do work thanks to Valve pushing them to allow it so people on Steam Desks can play those games.
@dreaper5813interesting way to get more people to use Linux. The biggest reason so many don't use it is also because people won't bother installing it but use what they have already installed.
@dreaper5813 I did write some games, possible one would say a lot instead, lol. I think pretty much all anti cheat software can work with proton, so it is just up to developers to enable it for their games.
With the success of the Steam Deck it would push them to do so, so they can play it.
Ye it is sad with all that ewasted hardware.
@dreaper5813 my original comment is in general for a Windows user and not you personally.
Totally valid you dont care about games who won’t bother supporting Linux/Proton.
This makes me laugh lot of old pc going to landfill but when you buy a new one windows settings is trying to get you to setup using their green settings
PC don't go to landfill, they go to country's like India, Nigeria etc and they had done for a number of years. Also, when you do buy your new PC, what you going to do with your old one?
Linux
My 2016 top line DELL is "unsupported" but works better on 11 vs 10. I had to turn OFF updates to stop new issues!
I've a laptop that's run Intel Celeron N3050, obviously it didn't reach the windows 11 requirements.
But one thing I've noticed and interesting when open task manager is on:
Windows 10 - uses 2% - 7% cpu usage.
Windows 11 uses 30% - 37% cpu usage.
However it might depends on system hardware, not too sure...
I think if Microsoft create a lite version of windows 11 for unsupported hardware, that would be good.
Lite version of windows 11 coming soon
Disabling automatic updates would be a feature.
Well unless you live on the edge & secure your OS yourself, knowing that Windows 10 is near EOL in few yrs Windows 11 isn't a bad idea.
Runs like a sunshine on my system, and that's an oldie...
Nice, thanks for sharing
I've been using Windows 11 on my laptop for 18 months and my PC for 6 months. So far no probelms. I did have an issue with Power Director just after installing Win 11, I rolled back to Win 10 and the problem remained. Turned out to be a Power Director issue not Windows.
I still have a customer running Windows 95. Yep 95. She doesnt use the web, just writes articles using Word Pad and puts them on floppys. She is happy with thats so.......
Thanks for the video! Yeah, I'm thinking of dual booting Linux Mint and leaving my Windows 10 as is or maybe do the unsupported upgrade. In any event Windows will no longer be my default desktop. I don't think TPM and Secure Boot are going to make the average home user want to bother to switch. Where is the benefit? These MS requirements are like selling the Edsel. Any benefits are intangible to the end user.
One of the nice things about moving to Linux is that you don't have to worry about this crap. I've had really good luck with Linux Mint.
Nobody asked you loser.
Linux Mint is almost made for Windows users on old hardware lol.
With the improvements Valve is making on making Windows games run on Linux makes the issues of Linux fewer for most people.
Well yeah. Congratulations, now you have to deal with much more annoying issues on your own dumb move to go there.
@@LugiDergX Kinda dumb for you to assume I had any problems. I've been working in linux now for nearly 15 years. Kinda dumb for anyone to act like4 a sheep and go where everyone else goes.
@@N0WYO1 Not really dumb for anyone to do that. Besides, I'm not a sheep as you say. I know all about alternate OSes. I just do not care to use them because Windows at the moment is greatest viable option with power combined from both Linux and Android, thank you very much. That is a purely dumb and ignorant judgement. I do not say though that you had any particular issues but outside of that Linux generally comes with it's own set of issues like any other OS that can get corrupted by really anything. If using a great OS that works fine for my needs is being a sheep I do not have any further comments. Windows is as an OS with much wider coverage on the market for reasons outside of Microsoft's power and I will gladly stay on a system that won't give me a headache. From now on, please refrain from making further comments on my side, seeing as you are such narrow minded as to calling people out for using a good system. I have all the right to assume you believe that Linux is the best system out there when, in fact, it is not, for what it offers to regular user like me, based on your judgements.
If Microsoft wish to play hardball, it'll give people further impetus to get up to speed with Linux Mint which I'm actively doing as we speak.
Personally, I'd rather instead hold out until Win12 (hopefully it's not a "cloud" subscription version) is likely released in 2025 as from user reports they tell me it's very unstable & crashes far more than Win10 ever did.
My own laptop is a HP EliteBook 840 G3 with a soldered in 6th gen intel CPU but has TPM 2.0 (BIOS upgrade to move it from TPM 1.1).
Microsoft think people earn as much as Bill Gates, where in reality in a lot of countries people are suffering 20-40% price rises.
So far, have personally held off using Win11 & still running Win10 on my own PCs
No need to go away from Windows 10 while it still gets support.
Have fun with unsupported apps in the future and no one caring for you with 'em on Win 10 then. That comes from a guy using W10 22H2 themselves. The moment issues start, I will be ready to force W11 update onto this PC. I'm much better off staying with what I have known from years more than switching to an entirely new OS and learning things all from grounds up. Besides, no OS is ever supported infinitely. It is not worth the hassle to change habits. As for MS playing hardball and community thing - You got it all wrong. It will only give people incentive to further shit on MS themselves by absolutely cracking open their dumb restrictions.
I just wonder if one day Microsoft sends a security-check bullet...and millions of P.C.s are rendered useless. I also cannot provide my clients with potentially unstable/unusable O.S.s which is hard to get some folks to understand. Run don't walk towards 8th Gen and up hardware, before everyone realizes what's about to happen...prices have already started climbing. Great topic!
It would not surprise me
Yes, the uptake on new operating systems is always slow. But there has never been a hardware limitation on installing the new one.
I have 3 computers, none of which are compatible! My gaming computer was built with a lot of overclocking, RAM. GpU headroom. It is the gaming and video editing computer. It runs all the current fps, mmo games without issue. I can not afford to replace a 4k computer, let alone my day to day surface pro 3 computer and my gaming laptop. I world be looking at 8k. It is not an option. I am sure a lot of people and businesses are in the same position. Plus what a lot of physical waste.
Hang on a minute! Why would you want to install Windows 11 on ANY computer? Would you not be better off waiting for a decent version of Windows to be released?
If you dislike Windows 11 I doubt you will like any new versions of Windows lol.
@@AndersHass I skipped Windows 95, Windows ME & Windows 8. Worked in the past, BUT sadly you may well be right this time. 🙁
@@Green_House either gonna bit the bullet or use Linux, lol. If you got unsupported hardware I would recommend using Linux Mint than doing unsupported install of Windows 11, unless you got very specific software/hardware that only works in Windows.
I'd say either run Windows 10, which has three more years of support, which is an eternity for most users, or, what I did, I upgraded my first gen Ryzen to a second gen for about $30.
Thank you for this very helpful video ❤👍
I don't mind change, what I do mind is advertising in my OS, the UI getting more complicated for no reason (hiding certain settings and adding more clicks to do certain things), forced software installs such as One Drive, forced updates that cause me to lose work, forced updates that cause bluesceens that have to be recovered, etc. Microsoft is making their OS objectively worse. I've switched to Linux now and enjoy it so much more. I only keep Windows around in a VM for the handful of programs that I can't run in Linux.
They don't recommend the switch to Win 11 in unsupported hardware, because Win 11 use more resources. If you release a new software, and you allow being run in low-end PCs (most people have old PCs) the performance will be poor and then your software will be deemed as terrible when it is more a hardware issue. I was hesitant to install it on my backup PC (an i3-6100) and I was shocked to see that I have had zero issues (so far) whenever I use that PC in my bedroom. Now I can enjoy the Win 11 UI on both, my studio and bedroom PCs :)
Time to turn old pc into a Nas.
Been running on unsupported hardware for a while now, no issues at all. See what happens when 23h2 lands.
Feature updates so far haven't been automatic on unsupported. But you can install it like you installed Windows 11 on unsupported hardware.
I heard about the activation on windows and honestly from windows xp activation key, I've been activated right up to windows 11 and ive never purchased a key
Yes been for a long time although i now have there is no TPM under device security go to BIOS Setting.
I read tonight that Microsoft is launching Co-Pilot AI into Windows 11 which also won’t work on an unsupported PC. I guess if they block unsupported Windows 11s or not, those of us with the older PCs will soon be left way behind regardless. :(
I have full build 4090 still windows 11 hard to take
Yes, it works like a charm on 4th gen intel. There is no reason to trash it just because the MS wants you to waste money upgrading perfectly fine pc. Its a nonsense, even i3 4th gen would be enough but I run 16c 32c 3.6GHz 4th gen xeon, it's probably 4 times faster than your average brand new laptop i5 xD
How does using a new operating system affect USB and SATA speeds on old hardware?
i read you are able to update your unsupported windows 11 21h2 to 22h2 by simply downloading the iso of 22h2, make it bootable with rufus and open the setup.exe in windows self. do not boot from it.
Is it possible to do so without loosing data??
Not a fresh install
@@Britec09 couldn't understand, if it's possible would be grateful for a detailed answer :)
6:20 Yeah, they ship it to another country to end up being dangerously disassembled and end up in their land fills.
Waiting for the LTSC version first prior to trying Win 11
I like Windows 10. So, other than the updates issue post 2025, is there any reason to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware? From what I see, it's not any better or worse to run the software you're currently running on 10. I just think it will take more system resources away. I know RAM requirements are a little bit higher on 11. From my experience, everytime I upgrade to a new version of Windows, I get less out of the hardware.
Yes! They keep saying that isn't true, but every system I ever upgraded OS's slowed down considerably. ME was 40 percent faster than XP, XP was 10 percent faster than 7, 7 was 10 percent faster than early Windows 10, early Windows 10 was 5 percent faster than the newest Windows 10. I can only guess what 11 will be.
I don't understand why no one agrees with me. I have probably upgraded many times on a variety of hardware and got the same results always. I can remember having to dual boot so I could play some 3d games on ME since they ran well, but they were borderline unplayable under 2000 or XP.
I guess the only reason to not install the OLDEST operating system is security updates. I just installed a dual boot of XP and Vista on an old dual core laptop.
(2GB Ram) You also can use a better web browser the newer your OS.
@@auteurfiddler8706 Well, I agree with you. My first PC (not including computers I had in the 80's i.e. Commodore, Apple, etc.) was a Tandy 286 / 8 MHz with 2 MB of ram running Windows 3.0. Trying to put Windows 3.11 for Workgroups on it was like carrying an extra 100 lbs on your back. I skipped the 386 and went straight to a 486DX 33 with 8 MB of ram to run 3.11. Then Windows 95 came out and I remember the commercials stating my exact system specs as the minimum to run, and this is their exact wording... "perfectly fine". So, I bought the upgrade, installed it, and ran on my system for sure... at half the speed of 3.11. I was really pissed and immediately uninstalled it. I didn't use Windows 95 until I bought a new Pentium system a year later. Then Windows 98, came out. I upgraded and it ran 25% slower. So, the trend continued and is still the same today. Long story long, EVERY OS upgrade will use more resources and slow down your system period, full stop.
I have i7 6500u 16gb. If i install window 11 with some heavy softwares like android studio and linuc on virtual box, will it be okay?
I was sooo close. Just missing TPM and 8th gen Intel. (Mine is 7th Gen)
Sorta annoyed because I forced 11 on there and it runs just fine on 7th gen
It works really just fine on my Intel 6th Gen laptop
Not all ryzen 2nd gen works either.
My secondary PC runs a Ryzen 3 2200g and RX 580
the Ryzen APUs do not support TPM 2.0
Great job AMD so I had to use the by pass
im using same specs as yours, but my motherboard has TPM 2.0 embedded, im using MSI A320M, I bypassed it and still worked, maybe within this year I gonna upgrade to R5 3600
@@jet_sausiege I have a Gigabyte DS3H B450 and when I tried a normal windows 11 upgrade it was blocked cause of TPM 2.0.
So I had to do the bypass after that it's been fine.
I didn't have this issue on my main PC. I had a Ryzen 3600 at the time and since then I've upgraded to a 5800x3D.
The 3600 is a excellent cpu and I'm sure you'll be happy with it. It handled my gtx 1070 fine and RTX 2080super just fine as well.
Pretty sure you just have to activate the TPM 2.0 build into the CPU. Otherwise upgrade to a newer Ryzen could be an option.
The latest dev build of windows 11 preview gives you options to remove secure boot, tpm options and the requirements for a Microsoft account as long as you do the work around in the registry you can still install it that way 😀
I looked up the supported CPUs from AMD. 2200G isn’t there but 2300X is apparently. But as I also wrote in my first comment said, you can upgrade to a CPU which is supported.
am really thinking to upgrade but the issue is the bugs mainly on windows update,taskbar,file explorer.
Its all running pretty good now
@@Britec09 so if i upgrade today all the bugs are not there
In my case I'd have to build another PC because I don't want a laptop and most likely that desk top would fail the test also... besides I like win 10
You should get the option to upgrade to Windows 11 if it is supported.
Then there is also PC Health program they released which should show you what doesn't make it supported.
Windows 11 brings so many pre install programs, that should be free! Dose company's pay to Microsoft and they charge the key...
Where can I find the necessary CPU list please?
I have already upgrade my home MSI gaming pc to Windows 11 Pro 22H2 and my office ROG gaming pc to Windows 11 Home 22H2 and all my games load much faster and much smoother then my previous Windows 10 Pro 22H3
Should i install Windows 11 on Hp Core i5 2nd Generation 8GB Ram 128GB SSD.
I've just installed it on my unsupportedi 7 laptop. Frankly it's horrible, so I've restored it back to Windows 10
Microsoft processor sales angle.
I installed windows 11 on a unsupported pc and i dont have the water mark an all features are functionable .
ca u plz share the method
Thats my PC:
Intel Core i7 Extreme 975 @ 3.33GHz (2009 cpu)
12,0GB Triple-Channel DDR3
ASRock X58 SuperComputer
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
Im still running newer games sum better sum worse.
But i dont think it will handle w11 BUT w11 has stuff that makes newer games work and perfrom better...
So the question is... Is it still worth for me to go to w11? Like can i expect better game functionality?
Or will it be just even worse?
Windows 11 and 10 more or less perform the same. Some direct storage features that aren't fully available to Windows 10 but so far it is barely used. Then there is HDR.
Stick with Windows 10 while it still gets updates.
I would switch to Linux Mint for unsupported hardware by the time Windows 10 don't get updates.
great video s always but stiking with windows 10 sides not compatible have 7thgen laptop i7 7500u lenovo laptop im happy and fine with windows 10 hopefully they will extend it after october 2025
That is your choice, no rush
@@Britec09 yes indeed no rush they will extendid cause it has higher market share than 11 dose for now
My family has more than 50 "non-supported" computers. What are we suppose to do...go out and buy 50 more? We are switching to Linux. We will keep a few of them on windows and "jury-rig" them.
Me Watching this while running linux for 2 years now, Why am I watching this ffs
Thanks Brian, you always have informative videos! I'm surprised you didn't mention Windows 11 Lite.
That is coming
My old Xeon X5675 X58 system is faster than most new hardware, been running windows 11 sense the first leaked beta, I was also able to join the windows insider program until they stopped support for unsupported hardware so I will stick with it until I can find a great price on a new Ryzen 5 5600X3D then I will upgrade to run that whish should be a decent upgrade to what I currently run.
Liar. AMD fan boi... nobody is surprised.
Performance has nothing to do with older hardware not being supported
@@AndersHass Oh be quiet "I know noding"
@@Look_What_You_Did it wasn't you I responded to lol
@@AndersHass I know... I still had to address Sgt Schultz
I'm sorry to say, but you shouldn't install it on unsupported hardware. The reason: it is expected that MS will edit the Win11 core (Kernel) & remove the unsupported processors.
If this happens, you won't be able to install Win11 even with Rufus making flash drive. Bcz all the old processor chips support have been removed from the OS.
Not to worry. Community will get to work right away as it always does. It's a fight they can't win unless they actually implement restrictions hardware wise. All, and I say all, software stuff can be bypassed. If they do start going the hardware restrictions way on the other hand, no one will be getting the new hardware with their crap and yet again, people will just flash custom firmware and stuff onto those or roll back to previous firmware versions.
How would that happen? People have windows xp running on ryzen PC’s the processor may not support it but it will run.
The better question is: Should you install Win 11 on SUPPORTED hardware.
Why not?
@@Britec09Windows 10 still has support. If you don't care about the new features Windows 11 has.
Trust me, I work for the government, and PC(s) go into landfills. Not always, but too many times in my opinion! And there is no way this is going to make that situation any better. BTW since when is a computer sold to me in 2021 allegedly "a very old computer".
I'm using Windows 7 and Windows 10 no matter what !
Forget installing Win11 on unsupported hardware. I have a newer HP with supported hardware but lacks drivers....😂
After installing Win11, wifi has issues
I mean what kind of idiot would say that Linux isn't suitable for the average user? Yeah right, as if Windows makes older people and non tech savvys alike absolute pros of computers now. And what's the argument about not throwing PCs to landfill instead shipping them to another Country. Eeer, duuuh? Even if you ship them to another Country they'll still be as good as rubbish if you want to run Windows on it as it will still be unsupported. Duuuuh! If it wasn't for Linux those machines would never see the light of day. Also, yes, you could just recycle them instead of throwing them to landfill as of course that's a much better way to dispose of them, but why would you want to throw it away, when again, that hardware still works perfectly fine and just because Microshyte said: "No, that computer will not be supported anymore" doesn't mean you must throw away what is perfectly functional and waste your money on their absolute rubbish of an OS.
I have a pretty good gaming pc and still Microsoft tells me my hardware is unsupported for Win 11. What an effin joke…
Only a small proportion of Windows users have upgraded to Windows 11. They know that this move is unpopular. People like 10 and see no need to upgrade.
Windows 10 still gets updates so there are no need, especially for unsupported.
Simply No
Microsoft buy me a new pc then !!!!
Please stop uploading how to install win11 on unsupported pc because it's not recommended because it's getting boring
This is not how to install win11 on unsupported pc, so stop with the silly comments.
Save the Earth in Microsoft no eat waste
775 LGA here
Win 11 demands TPM2.0 capable processors to properly run the Security 'features' that Microssoft wnat s to push.
Frankly I'm still annoyed that I upgraded from 64 bit EXP pro.
Win 10 proved as NO improvement that i've yet seen .
Unlikely Win 11 is any real life improvement over Win 10.
Simply the recycled ; Looonger .. looower .. wiiider... mentality of 1960s Automotive marketing.
yeah this sounds like a great idea for you're PC "sarcasm"
👍👍
Cheers 👍
Goodbye MS, welcome Linux! Why waste my money if my hardware is function fine? I have my phone for safety payments. Not everybody has 500 dollars to waste in a stupid new laptop, and you can`t even upgrade ram memory!!!
10 is good enough until it ends in 2025
Windows 10 and Windows 11 are crap! They still like other versions of Windows all the way back to 3.01 leave tons of things unfinished or introduce new concepts that they then abandoned or neglect. Quality Control and Security are a joke. The saddest thing is people that say it is not that bad!!! It is bloatware!!! If not, then explain how Android OS does so much with so little hardware and software. At the very least, stop hiding and moving features (7 made sense) and stop changing the Graphic interface, stop renaming, stop moving things, stop changing menu flow. PEOPLE JUST WANT TO GET WORK DONE WHICH IS NORMALLY AN APPLICATION PROGRAM, THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE OS!!!
For most people, Mint Linux and LibreOffice is the way to go. I am down to one program that needs windows - sadly, the company will not port it to Linux, maybe because of the Nvidia Graphic Render Engine used.
What program is that?
i hate microsoft
Better question should you install windows 11 on supported hardware. And the answer is no.
Windows Enterprise goes up to 2032
and you avoid all the garbage like Candy Crush
But you scum peasant you scum peasant you scum peasant you scum peasant ZEE WILL PLAY CANDY CRUSH NO ENTERPRISE FOR YOU!
I installed Windows 11 on a dell optiplex with an intel i5-6500 that i use everyday. I can't afford a new pc that'll fit my needs and the last laptop i had did support windows 11 but literally runs worse than the older desktop which is the dell optiplex i bought refurbished on amazon. It's likely because the laptop i had bought in 2019 had a dual core intel celeron and only 4gb of ram. I did replace it's hard drive with an SSD but it only got a little better. It still barely did youtube without taking longer to load everything while the optiplex loads youtube instantly.
I still love watching your videos on Windows 7
good for you
I'm still using Windows 7 as my daily driver. I keep multiple backups and have software and hardware VPN's. I might give Mint 21 a try. Take care all. Cheers
All those security updates you are missing out on. Then soon Chromium no longer working, RIP.
@@AndersHass Yeah you're right. Going to make the jump to Windows 10. Cheers
@@rickh8380 then I guess Linux Mint once Windows 10 no longer gets updates (at least on old unsupported hardware) lol
Well Brian I run Windows 11 pro on my old Ivy Bridge perfectly well for as long as it has been possible with the bypass stuff, and in fact it is as quick as when I built it. I understood that the TPM was for security but my ESET does that anyway and I am not worried about encrypting data all. My CPU an i5 3750K runs as fast as any other current processors and I still think that Microsoft are in cahoots with hardware manufacturers for moneys sake.
The issue isn’t performance for old hardware but various security features. Lots of unsupported CPUs that even has TPM 2.0 build into them. The line seems to be about virtual based security, which isn’t even on by default and many would probably turn it off even on newer CPUs just to get better gaming performance, lol. But possible it will be on by default at some update.
ESET is software security and not security on a hardware level, which TPM is.
But it can be very much possible Microsoft does set the line as they did to push for more PC sales which often gives them money via licenses on those new PCs.
@@AndersHass Thanks Anders I agree with you 100% and I shall carry on using my non hardware supported as long as they will let me. My main desktop is an Ivy Bridge build that I put many hours into building with all the bells and whistles. Having said that I have bought two TPM plug ins but they either the wrong pin configuration or simply did not show in my BIOS or anywhere I checked. What is bothering me is the rumours about Windows 12 OS will it be just as my current position or not available?
@@johngoard8272 depending what you use your computer for, I would just install Linux Mint instead of trying to install Windows on unsupported hardware.
Rumors about Windows 12 is it will be modular and have AI stuff. So possible it would require hardware that can accelerate AI workloads, then that will push for even more new PCs to be bought, lol.
At best I would think Windows 12 will be like 11 in terms of requirements.
@@AndersHass Yes Ander that is one option and I have used Linux Mint in the past and the last time I did it seemed to be more user friendly.
@@johngoard8272 Mint userinterface does also very much resemble "old" Windows (like 7). So one might have more familiarity with it than modern Windows if you have used Windows for a long time, lol. I am not gonna be judge of which one is more userfriendly.
So if you basically all you do is webbrowsing on the computer it should be more than fine, especially when it is old hardware (better compatibility with older hardware than newer).
Possible if you have some unique hardware it might not work (or at least very complicated to get it to work).
If you need gaming then the improvements Valve has done has helped a lot but it isn't perfect so possible some things are missing.
Then also possible other specific programs missing but possible there are alternatives one can use if one is up for learning that.
Video idea - how to install and configure a dual boot option win10/win11 by installing an additional drive (mechanical/ssd/nvme), just in case upgrading from Win10 to 11 on an unsupported hardware will cause issues and render your pc useless. I guess another more economical option would be to create a partition on your current drive and install Win 11 on the new allocated partition. I have done this before with Win xp and Win 7 when I had a retro gaming pc. This could be a mini series of videos.
I find just keeping a cloned drive around is easier.
My next version of Windows will most likely be Widows 12
Freudian slip 🤔
@@MrKentaroMotoPI lol
Would be preferable in my case as well but I wouldn't mind getting Windows 11 if they keep on going with the crap ideas with next systems.
The real reason they have made this requirement is because the OEMs have pushed MS to do so because we have reached the plateau with no real need for an average user to upgrade 10-15 years old laptop unless it breaks. Like for real i'd say as low as 2nd gen intel is perfecty fine for most of the users
Spot on reply! I would consider myself a power user an still have my i7 4790k
What about 1st gen i5
frankly, it was garbage, the worst ever generation, you were better off sticking to core 2 duo back then than get 1st gen i5/i7, 2nd gen though, is still pretty good for any daily use and even latest games on low settings
1.42 I'm going to say yes to your question I've done it. And Windows approved of it because they're the ones that installed the windows 11 on my really old computer, everything works perfect. But I must say that they're using my system as a test, everything seems to be working great for the last 2 years.
Meh, I think if you want to try Linux, that's a better option. If you want Windows 11 though, go all in!
I use Linux Mint, because my hardware is not supported by Windows 11. Linux runs a heap better than Windows 10 ever did, so I'm glad I switched. I don't intend on going back to Windows unless I absolutely need it.
I would hate to think what Windows 12 minimum requirements are going to be like
I will soon be switching to Linux too
@@dreaper5813 Good! I can say the same thing. I only use Linux now
linux man? really?
Windows 12 seems to have AI stuff so possibly you would need hardware that can run it easily lol.
@@AndersHass I'm not using newer versions of Windows, I might just go to Linux, even on a gaming PC
Ask your doctor if Windows 11 is right for you
I'm watching this on Windows 11 on an unsupported hardware.
Nice, thanks for watching
Or There is another option: Doing Nothing. Just keep using Windows 10 even after they get unsupported. Isn't that a good thing, no interruptions from updates.
The thing is when Windows 10 first came out, people actually criticized besides about privacy since it gather too much user data, is that Windows 10 has too many frequent updates, using too much bandwidth since Windows 10 needs to downloading updates in the background and installing it in the middle of user using the computer, resulting in reduced performance and request for restart in the middle of workday. But now since people are getting used to get update frequently, they are getting worried about not getting any updates.
the applications support for Windows 10 will stop after a period of its end, the recent versions of programs such as Chrome, Office and more will prevent you from installing them on Windows 10.
@@aymenchraf Yes of course, but you can still download and keep the older version of the software. I still keep my Office 2016, Photoshop CC 2020, and Mozilla Firefox 115, because I have one machine that can't be upgraded to Windows 10 and stuck at Windows 7. When Windows 10 gets unsupported, I'll probably doing the same thing. My friend still keeps their even older version of Office and Photoshop, because he still has a computer that uses Windows XP and can't be upgraded.
If you really don't care or don't need to use the latest software, I don't see any problem not using latest software besides security.
Speaking of security, the best protection is actually yourself. If you're not being stupid, going to the website that you probably shouldn't, you'll be fine.
Oh BTW, Microsoft starts to showing watermark on the latest build of Windows 11, telling you that you have unsupported hardware. I can't wait to see what they will do next, perhaps blocking activation or updates for unsupported devices. Or even worse, preventing the system to boot at all.
@@JeffreyJohannes if they prevent the system booting with people's data on it they will be in hot water. They will have to give unsupported hardware users a warning first.
@@richardcastro-parker3704 Yeah they should notify people if that happens. LOL.
The point is, they know that you're using Windows 11 on unsupported hardware. So, I can't imagine what Microsoft is going to do about it, to enforce the system requirement. And so What the third party software makers (like Photoshop, Google Chrome, etc) going to do about it? How about if those software refuses to install on unsupported Windows 11 device?
It seems that Microsoft and Others wants us to buy new device. If you keep using the old device with Windows 10, you'll be unsafe because Microsoft no longer support it. But, if you're installing Windows 11, you'll have to deal with Unsupported hardware nonsense, which Microsoft doesn't want to support you either. Other option is to install Linux, but not everyone wants Linux on their computer.
There is nothing old or slow about many of the computers I own, they even have tpm 2, 64gb of ram and are just fine running ANY version of Windows unless a ridiculous demand is placed on cpu version. I think Windows 11 offers zero benefits to most people but I totally get wanting only one version out there to make life easy for MS. The day they end the "unsupported hardware" nonsense is the day the vast majority will move to Windows 11. We are used to saying goodbye to slow pcs and we will upgrade ourselves when we feel ready not when told.
Is not about people not liking 11, its microsoft forcing you to buy a new computer.
11 is awful
they arent forcing shit, stop being an idiot
I just upgraded both my legacy systems from Windows 10 to 11 Pro. It's not something I had even considered doing until I ran across a UA-cam video showing how the upgrade can be done using a mounted copy of the official Windows 11 disc image from the Microsoft download page and a single instruction in Command Prompt.
Both systems are built on the Intel socket 1156 platform. One is an old Dell XPS running a 1st gen Core i7 860 and the other I built myself using an ASUS P7P55D motherboard from eBay, which has the slightly faster Core i7 880. The XPS PC has 16GB of DDR3 1333MHz RAM and a Radeon HD 6870 1GB GPU. The Custom system has the same amount of RAM, but running at 1600MHz and the GPU is a GTX 1060 3GB.
Windows 11 is now running seamlessly on both systems. I suspect this is because both CPUs, despite being over a decade old, are 4-core, 8-thread chips boosting to over 3GHz and the PCs have the considerable advantage of using SSDs instead of HDDs.
The only advice I would give anyone doing this is to remove any and all non-essential components from the system during installation. The XPS sailed through the instal without a hitch as it's a pretty bare bones setup, but the ASUS system ended up reverting to Windows 10 three times before I removed the Wi-Fi/BT and USB 3.0 PCIe expansion cards and the external Cooler Master USB ARGB controller. Once Windows 11 did install, it would also crash every time I plugged an ethernet cable into the RJ45 port until I downloaded and ran the driver installer provided by Realtek. There were a couple of mystery components in Device Manager that weren't happy about the migration, but nothing a little online research to find the missing drivers couldn't solve.
The Asus build was a hobby project inspired by nothing more novel than my desire to find out if I could build a PC with modern functionality on a legacy platform. I now have a 13-year-old motherboard, CPU and RAM configuration with functional USB 3.0 ports on the front I/O (and 5 on the back of the case), Wi-Fi 6e and BT 5.2, Full ARGB functionality controllable through software, and a modern(ish) graphics card. The fact that it is now running Windows 11 is kind of the cherry on top.
You my friend are like me, a fan of old tech and bc of that, you wish to keep it running. I have used the same method you mentioned to install W11 on a i7-3632QM. And of course that baby is in a Thinkpad T430. Cheers 🍻
Can if you want. I don’t want too 😊
I've been using Windows 11 on my 8 year old HP with no problems at all, isn't there a registry hack to get rid of the watermark ?
Should i use win 10 until end of life support and then move to win 11 with unsupported cpu or make the jump now?
If you have a PC/Laptop at the "Business" or "Gaming" level its definitely worth taking the Unsupported Hardware upgrade route. I was looking at some of the big Retail stores and was shocked to see that a lot of lower cost Windows 11 systems barely meet the minimum Hardware Requirements - so you can end up with a new PC which is actually slower than your old one! Looks like manufacturers are scrabbling to empty their old spares bins.
Gee, I hope desktop linux gets more traction.
@@lancemanipis3879Linux users have been saying that for 5+ years
The WSA and Google Play Games Beta require an SSD. I don't know why Microsoft decided to support only 8th generation or newer processor
People are going to switch to win 12 once windows 10 is unsupported. Just like people moved to windows 7 and shipped Vista when win xp was unsupported. The same way that people switched to windows 10 after win7 expired.