The Obvious Reason Atheists Don't Believe In A God
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- Why don't atheists believe in gods? Hard Hearts? 'Too smart'? They don't want to believe? This Irish theist seems to think he knows exactly why atheists don't accept a god, but his arguments are likely to leave you scratching your head, since it's clear he's never actually spoken to an atheist.
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He says he never grew up religious, then proceeds to tell us how his family took him to mass every week and his dad sang in the choir. 🙄
Exactly. My family went only to baby baptisms, weddings and funerals. Which was once or twice a year, max. No church activities, no reading the bible at home or anything. Christmas was about family, food and gifts..
At least he is inoculating listeners to the how much cognitive dissonance he lives with in a day to day. Gives us an idea of the level of nonsense incoming.
That’s quite common.
That's pretty common in Ireland. When I was growing up, my family brought me to mass once a week to and a few other annual things (Christmas, Easter etc) - When I was about 13ish I told them I didn't want to go anymore and they kinda resisted for a few months and then just gave up, after my sister also expressed no interest in going (she is 3 years younger than me) I think they stopped going weekly themselves. They still (decades later) do the annual ones out of a kinda feeling of responsibility.
Depending on my audience, I would also say I wasn't brought up in a religious household. (I would probably put in the caveat of a VERY religious household). Everyone (not literally) in Ireland used to go to mass, it wasn't a question of belief really, it was just what you did in Ireland in the 80s/90s.
We didn't pray at home, we didn't talk about god, inside or outside mass. We just went there as a kind of chore once a week for ~30mins. You'd intentionally arrive as late as possible and leave as early as possible.
Oh and most schools were religious schools, but again almost no religion in them. It's weird and hard to describe.
"My father wasn't abusive. He'd beat unconscious whenever I did anything wrong and then he would lock me in the bassement with nothing but a slice of bread a day to eat..."
"I never grew up thinking is god real or isn't he?"
Okay, thanks for letting us know you didn't develop critical thinking skills.
"It's not because I grew up in a religious house or anything"
As he then goes on to list all the ways he grew up in a religious house lol
I also thought the same thing when hearing it.
I think the church counts on people not thinking critically. I think every system that encourages a lack of critical thinking is some form of religion.
I grew up thinking Santa Claus was real tho.
"I never grew up thin thinking" is the only honest thing he said in the whole video XD
He said something? I kept falling asleep any time he started talking.
@@KasumiRose77 It doesn't just count on it, it teaches not to do it.
God went to the store for a pack of cigarettes 2000 years ago and never came back.
But he'll be back any day now.
Ahh, the naivete of babes.
_He's not my real dad!_
Truly. In every other aspect of life they fully trust their instincts and ability to assess a situation. Nobody in the 21st century goes to a magic show and thinks actual magic is being done, for instance. But insert religion and everything goes out the window.
@InfernalAtDawn _"capital G god"_
I've taken to recapitalizing God because His followers are simple minded 🤣 and I want them to _KNOW_ when I'm insulting Him/them.. 😝
Ghosted by the holy ghost 👻
@@kevinsayes It's pretty insane, isn't it?
"I feel it in my heart", "trees" and "uncreated god"... Yeah, ZERO convincing, again.. good times! 😂
An easy win video for 'Idiotic theist cliche' bingo.
@@condorboss3339Definitely 😁
Wait wait wait, this guy said he and his friends were getting drunk and high as teenagers and DIDN'T ponder the existential questions of life and reality?!
I'm calling bs.
Some people just arent smart enough to do that, maybe? Like, I wouldnt find it surprising that he took whatever drugs, but just seriously had no introspection, and took no notice of anything happening around him.
Trying too hard to appear cool... But drugs n beer aren't cool anymore. Oops
@@KasumiRose77
Drugs and beer were cool once? News to me
@@dominicmahoney1092, I'm not convinced he stopped using drugs.
(Or now maybe it's "... using drugs and making videos.")
@@FoxyRaccoon84
No it's not. The way to fight ideas isn't to feign ignorance about it having been but to accept it has and that it still echoing strongly in our modern society still in multiple avenues.
If you want to give behavior like feigning ignorance credence et al, go pick up a cross and be religious because they want more people to give such behavior credence.
But it's the opposite behavior from what would actually help you fight these ideas, like alcoholic beverages being equivalent to cool.
Especially so if you also wear Jeans and Smoke at the same time
"How do you know your god exists?" "Oh, dats easy, I don't need evidence, you just have to be sure, to be sure."
I can feel it in my nuggets
But... The trees! The planets! The universe! Existence! Without a god, nothing can exist! While you atheists pretend that everything came from nothing, which is absurd! That's the evidence!
In other words, god-of-the-gaps, god-of-the-gaps, god-of-the-gaps, god-of-the-gaps, straw man, this is the "evidence" not just that a god exists, but that it's the Bible god in particular, because the person using this "evidence" believes in the Bible.
And the sheer arrogance to promote that gobbledygook as "Truth" - while pretending that it's all about "humility."
Yep, standard Christian apologetics.
Heh
I'm just not humble enough to accept that the Creator of the Universe cares about me in particular.
I should be more humble and accept that the entire Universe was created for my benefit
yeah, it's funny how religious types confuse 'humility' with 'arrogance'
The other guy responded with "Yeah, it's funny how religious types confuse 'humility' with 'arrogance,'" which I totally agree with.
I only wanted to add that it's much worse than this. The rhetoric that Christian apologists of the fundamentalist/evangelical Christian type (who are predominant in the U.S.) use is permeated with all kinds of two-faced rhetoric like this. This is merely one specific example.
They've created for themselves (as a form of self-delusion) all kinds of rhetoric designed to pretend to themselves that they're the opposite of what they really are. While they're literally engaged in attacking the truth, they're calling themselves "truth-seekers." While they're literally promoting blatant falsehoods (creationism pseudoscience being a prominent example of a form of fundamentalist/evangelical Christian apologetics), they're calling themselves promoters of "Truth." Creationists call evolution a "religion" - while they themselves are the very ones using this science-denialism rhetoric for the very purpose of trying to prop up their factually false religious beliefs based on a particular religious interpretation of religious stories in a religious book.
The list of the two-faced hypocrisies Christian apologists use in their rhetoric goes on and on and on. This hypocritical thinking is so deep, so fundamental, to their entire religious mindset, that they almost can't open their mouths at all in regard to espousing their apologetics rhetoric without exposing at least one example of the two-faced nature of their rhetoric.
@@steveg1961well said 👍
Those goddamn trees again.
Ikr, hug em already
If we deforested the whole planet, I wonder if that would result in theists no longer believing in the existence of their god...
Making ashes of themselves fir f sakes.
👁👁🌲🌳🌴🌲🌳🌴🌲🌳🌴
Jesus: hey, where's Luke at?
Apostle he loved best: Oh, Luke? He's over at those trees. A...gain.
Jesus: I'm... sorry to hear that.
Luke at the Trees apologetic.
I never really grew up thinking “is god real or isn’t he”
Sounds about right
The first six words of that sounds right.
🥉👏
First five words..
I didn’t come from a cryptozoologist background… I mean, sure we went Sasquatch hunting every week.
But I never asked, “Is Bigfoot real?”
The reason i don't
believe is because i
just don't find it believable...
Nor is there much there worth worshiping in even if it were all true
The religious keep claiming there's all this evidence, yet they don't put any of it forth.
I'm open-minded. Please put forth your objective, demonstrable, and independently verifiable evidence. Please. I will be waiting. I'm an atheist. I'm used to it at this point.
The fact that existence exists is not evidence for anything other than existence.
🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳
Right? All they got is what nearly happened in nature without any help from a God.
My friend and I ran an experiment. He sent me an encrypted message and I prayed to God to determine the answer. He provided me with knowledge that was beyond my capacity and I correctly got the encrypted message every time. God didn't lie to me. I asked my friend to do the same and he also consistently got the correct answer. So we both had sources of information that cannot be explained by our current understanding of the natural world. You may not believe that this was from God, but I cannot tell the difference.
That or I'm lying and I'm really just an atheist trying to create an interesting hypothetical scenario.
There's so many. There's a preponderance. There are multiple preponderances.
Examples? Well the uh...numerous historical...
Hundreds of witnesses...
Thousands of fragments...
The number of times my keys were just...
Not to mention the multitude of prophecies that...
And every time I pray. Well, most oft...a lot of the...someti...I recall a...well I heard that someone...
The frequency of pastors meeting atheists on airplanes. Why just the philosophy professor subset is Hu...
You're obviously ignoring the irrefutable evidence given in the video, due to your hardened heart:
The universe must have a cause (for some reason).
The thing that caused the universe is exempt from needing a cause (for some reason).
And must have been a god (for some reason).
QED.
No one has shown me any evidence for God. I get a word salad and then they give we a quote from the Bible.
But mah book tho
Yes. Old word salad that have long turned completely stale and rancid.
I just got told it's because I am too far beneath God, so that's why I don't have the evidence I require.
Which is fine, it just means theists are convinced by weaker evidence, I replied.
Not sure I will get much in the way of responses now.
@@Marniwheeler You wrote, "I just got told it's because I am too far beneath God, so that's why I don't have the evidence I require."
Actually, you just brought up a point about this specific rhetoric gimmick that Christian apologists use a lot - in which they pretend to be God. No, I'm not kidding. So very many times have I had a Christian apologist accuse me of "attacking God" after I've just destroyed some claim or argument they've made by pointing out some relevant fact that show why the claim is wrong, or by pointing out some aspect of an argument they've used as being logically fallacious.
When this happens, I always immediately reply to them by pointing out that they are not God, that it isn't a god typing their words on a keyboard on the other end of the internet somewhere, it's just them, and it's THEIR words I'm pointing out the errors of, not the words of a god.
And, you know what? It works every time - they not only fail to display the "humility" they pretend to possess, but the rhetorical gymnastics begin right away to try to justify the rhetoric they used portraying their words as "God's Word" without ever once just acknowledging the simple fact that I was right and they overstepped with the rhetoric they used.
A conversation between a theist and a atheist.
Atheist: do you have any evidence that a god exists?
Theist: there is so much.
Atheist: ok give me the evidence.
Theist; there is so much.
Atheist: you already said that. Please give me the evidence.
Theist: but I gave you the evidence.
Atheist: WTF
Theist: The Bible says that there's evidence, so therefore there is.
"Here's a book, The Book!"
"Are there verifiable citations in it?"
They yell about "humble" and "humility" yet is there any greater Ego than to claim to know a god of the universe sans speaking for one?
Yes, and amidst the incredible vastness of the universe and all in it, He wants a personal relationship......with you
@@johndoh4064 and they declare that we atheists are egotistical! LOL
there actually is: it is claiming to be this god in the flesh.
when i was little, my mom told me that some dude 2000 years ago was the most humble dude ever, and when i was 8, my RE teacher insisted that this same dude made that claim.
that was the day i realized adults can be full of shit, too, and the day i stopped playing along.
@@chezeus1672I excluded the Jesus fellow for they cannot prove a historical Jesus, let alone a magical one. Having said that, many humans have claimed to be a god. lol
@@johndoh4064 _"He wants a personal relationship"_
Then he should stop passing notes and ask me out in person..
2 Minutes in and I already had enough of this guy. "I didn't grow up in a religious home. Sure, my parents were religious and I went to mass, but that's not religious at all!"
What a load of horsecrap.
That's certainly religious enough to explain why he grew up just *assuming* the existence of God. Ironically, if he grew up in a more seriously religious family, one that made it very clear that what one believed was important, it's probably more likely that he would seriously question whether or not God exists. You're more likely to take the question seriously if you're brought up to understand that it matters. Having never done any serious thought, he was probably naive and impressionable the day someone invited him to become a zealot.
@@somexp12Could go either way. Where I live we are basically baptized from birth (well, one year after but anyway) and are counted in the church unless we specifically leave it. Growing up it never clicked to me that I was supposed to take the stories seriously. It was a tradition but only when I was older I understood that there are people who think the stories in the bible were real and I don't.
"We were pretty casual Catholics. Heck we even skipped Communion. A _few_ times!"
I can not STAND when people like this say stuff like, "The ashiest simply isn't looking and doesn't want to believe."
I broke down in my living room, scream crying and begging the Christian god to show himself to me, that I didn't want to lose him. I couldn't bare the thought of having been wrong for so long and to lose my community, my friends, possibly my wife. I didn't WANT to lose my faith, I didn't WANT to lose god. But I couldn't reconcile reality with my faith, and it fell apart. I wanted and still want to believe what's true, and that's why I left my faith behind. My experience is not unique.
hope it's ok to ask... are you still married to that wife?
I wanted to believe in God, but I knew He'd know I was lying.
True story. ☹
@@Dr.JustIsWrong Can you explain why you wanted to believe in it? I personally don't know how that is like.
@@Soapy-chan _"Can you explain why you wanted to believe in it? I personally don't know how that is like."_
This sounds exactly like what trolls say..
so..
..No.
@@Dr.JustIsWrong wtf how does that sound like what trolls say???
I was never a believer and can't imagine how it is to WANT to believe in a god, so I asked sincerely. Maybe I worded it a bit weirdly since english isn't my first language and I wasn't sure how word it, like do I say "I can't imagine it" or "I don't understand it" or what not.
So please, I really want to know how and why that is, what the reason was for wanting to believe, stuff like that...
This guy definitely has a weird idea about what not having a religious upbringing means. It's like a fish saying it didn't have an especially wet upbringing. He's so steeped in religion he doesn't even notice it for what it is.
well thats what you need to be in order to believe in that bs. You need to be either:
A. Brainwashed to believe all that bs from very young age.
B. You need to be literally dumber than a moldy sock
Is this a British floating circle attacking an Irish grounded triangle? Leaf be upon them!
Thanks!
This guy's video is one long facepalm.
If "dull-normal" was a photograph...
Thank you! You're going in the Jun 22nd Video!
i wasted 20 minutes of my life waiting for him to get to a point. i got board and wondered off to do something more productive.
Hahaha they never have one, ay? It's not like we don't give them a chance!
You were going to do something with a board? Surfing maybe.
Ironing, I suppose.
Well at least it's not the Kalam again
I was waiting for that all the time. Somehow he disappointed me.
Interestingly the more I got educated the more towards atheism I went.
Same here!
I have never believed and the older and more educated I became, the more I'm flabbergasted by people who do.. can't wrap my head around it.. makes zero sense to me.
You are not getting more educated because the more we know about reality the less likely atheism is.
That’s true for most people whether it’s general education or educated on their religion. Reading the bible has de-converted a lot of people.
@@TheJimtanker If the Bible de-converted people Bible colleges and churches would be empty. Bible sales would drop.
Give me an example of some body deconverting after reading the Bible. What specifically caused it and how did they deal with it.
I didn’t grow up in a religious household, excepting for all the religion.
Totally not a religious household, y'know, with prayer group, mass, going to church ect... Not religious whatsoever.
Someone should tell him that vertical video makes Baby Jebus cry.
This smells like Dunning Kruger.
With a dirty diaper in between!
Repeatedly...😖
Smells like brainwashing
Why is it that it's always the most prideful people claim humility.
Probably the same reason Jordan Peterson promotes the virtues of being "precise." They can relate to having the opposite vice, so they find it notable every tiny instant they overcome that vice.
"Think you're really righteous? Think you're pure of heart? Well know that I am a billion times more humble than thou art!"
You can spin his argument around and it works perfectly fine: Theists won't accept there is no good evidence for God/s because of the hardness of their hearts.
Not true, unfortunately. They believe in a God because they’re trying to let their hard heart become softened by letting go of control and accepting they cannot do it alone.
Also, there is evidence for God. It’s called your ability to reason, to cognizance and compartmentalize, as well as your capability to think about the fact that you’re thinking about the fact that you’re able to think about thinking about being able to think about thinking about thought.
If that’s all random, what makes humans so lucky? Why can no other thing in our world do those things as well as us?
That’s some sort of proof I would say.
I grew up in Europe, where we left superstition like religious beliefs behind us about 100 years ago.
THat is about the same time we acquired KNOWLEDGE and science that clearly explains what USED to be ascribed to gods and magic!
There are some people, even here in Sweden, that go to church every week, but that is about 4% or less of the total population.
Any person claiming to be deeply religious will have a very hard time to get into politics or management or most other high responsibility position in Sweden or most countries in Europe.
It makes no sense whatsoever to have a person believing in magic, magical beings and ancients superstitions ruling our mundane (non magical) society!
Decision-making takes a clear head!
That means a mind without delusions of magic and magical beings!
It depends. I was born and raised in Portugal, and the RCC ruined my life.
And I’m 40, not that old if not exactly young either.
@@Nocturnalux RCC? Renovamento Carismático Católico?
@@AXKfUN9m Roman Catholic Church.
@@AXKfUN9m RCC = Roman Catholic Church.
@@AXKfUN9m "Translate to English", but uses what appears to be Spanish.
Spanish is not English, dearie.
It seems as though declaring oneself humble would count as "plussing yourself up," and eliminate the possibility that one is _actually humble_.
When he made the "look at the trees" argument I couldn't help but think "huh, so all the lucky charms then"
The rainbows!
“I don’t think just because they’re educated they know something the rest of the world doesn’t.”
🤣
The atheists just won’t accept the evidence says the evolution is unproven crowd.
"I don't think just because they're educated they know something the rest of the world doesn't."
Christian apologetics rhetoric employs this kind of argument a lot, in all sorts of various rhetorical forms. (Creationists use it a lot in their anti-science rhetoric.)
But besides the obviously self-contradictory nature of such rhetoric, there's also the fallacy that a person doesn't have to be "educated" - you know, like with, say, a bachelor's degree in philosophy - to comprehend much of the nonsensical nature of the rhetoric that Christian apologists use. I've known people who didn't even graduate from high school who just had enough "common sense" of being able to think straight to recognize all kinds of silly fallacies that Christian apologists use.
By analogy, you don't have to know calculus in order to understand that if some guy says 2 + 2 = 7 that just means he's off his rocker.
A theist kept trying to convince me that I should be going towards Jesus because he loves me "too much" to force himself onto me.
I ended up explaining to them that the way they were describing Jesus' love was the same exact way youde describe the love of a stalker... they stopped responding after that for some reason🤔🥃
Ooh, yikes! That sounds like Jesus is really having a hard time controlling his urges.. might soon escalate to SA..
@@einienj3281 Jesus is a creepy man lol
@@UmamaGoblin Definitely 😬🤭
Any way you look at it a "relationship" with god is an abusive relationship.
@@fred_derf absolutely 🥃
So basically, having a hard heart means not being gullible.
You nailed this point perfectly. So much religious rhetoric (and not just apologetics rhetoric in particular) is designed for the deliberate purpose of promoting gullibility about the religious beliefs as a religious virtue.
He managed to get everything bass ackwards.
Par for the course with these logic challenged halfwits.
So, God only reveals himself to those who never learned critical thinking skills is what I'm getting from this. Makes sense actually.
And miracles happen to the easily conned.
What sane person would not WANT to believe in a god that would torture you for all eternity for not believing in him if there was even the slightest evidence that he was real. What a stupid assertion.
I grew up with my parents taking us to church every week. I’ve NEVER believed in a god. My brain is wired for skepticism, not automatic belief.
Same here. It never really clicked with me.
@@halthammerzeit +1
Can there still be dissonance when there is no cognition.
He argues for the case of YES.
Cool Group!
I can’t possibly figure out who made my chair.
But I KNOW who made the universe.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
More worried about the softness of his brain than the hardness of his heart.
This guy was smoking weed and drinking at 13 it doesn't show
he give bad reputation to junkies...
THE WEED AND BOOZE TOOK ITS TOLL
The weed and booze didn’t work he still got snookered
Think its time he moved to Meth and/or Fent
So convincing when you start with “Even the most smartest of” anything
I struggled to graduate high school and never went to college also know I’m not the brightest but when I hear theists blowing their horns like this clown I think to myself, hey at least I’m not an idiot.
so we have a dude claiming to not have been raised religious and then says how he did.
Meaning he is lying.
Every single apologist is lying and they seem to think we won't notice or care.
_"Atheists don't WANT to believe our evidence, what do you do with a person like that?"_
..um, get better evidence..??
This dude is standing in front of a judge. The judge sentenced him to life in prison. And the judges explanation, evidence 'look at the trees'.
@@MrCanis4
Monkeys just reeeeeeeeeeally like trees. And bananas.
obvs loving god to make such cool monkey things! 😂🤣
@@MrCanis4 Well said.
Hey hey hey don’t come after American biscuits. Those are delightful with a piece of chicken, gravy poured over it, or if you want a dessert, honey or jelly.
They are also not the same thing as scones.
I've always wondered "if British people call cookies biscuits, what do they call biscuits", but...they really just don't have them?
@@NovaSaber Bis Cuits. Literally, Bis means Twice. Twice Cooked. It is why when left out, cakes get dryer (not cooked to dry them off) but biscuits get wetter (cooked to dry them off).
You cook beef too. Or beans. Or potatoes. Etc. But you don't call THOSE "cookies". Why?
@@markhackett2302 "Cookie" doesn't come from "cook", it comes from the Dutch word for the same thing it means in American English.
Tell me you sit and watch UA-cam apologists all day without telling me,
The only atheists this guy's talked to is the ones made up in his head
Seems a lot of them do that!
I just realized how many of this channel's video's I've watched. Bout time I subscribed, I reckon.
You’re in!
It's Brother Rob! With an accent!
How can you not be convinced by that lilting brogue? I feel my heart melting. No wait, it was just gas.
Joel McHale has really let himself go.
😂
I was thinking he looked a bit like Simon Pegg at first then saw a bit of Ed Sheeran.
Being educated is definitionally knowing something the rest of the world doesn't. That's the point.
My thought exactly 😂
I got in SO MUCH TROUBLE for asking, "If gob wants people to believe in him, why would he 'harden people's hearts'"? Mum was the Sunday school teacher at our church and I guess she found my relentless questioning embarrassing lmao 😅
Between the laughable nonsense of 'the heart' being a decision-making organ because feelings and ancient not-wisdom, and the horror of 'you aren't trying to accept the thing I so obviously can't prove and that is on you' I find myself unconvinced that convincing can be achieved.
Why would a god play the worst, most easily punctured, games to gather believers instead of basically any other plan? How are these non-tactics ever taken seriously?
I want to believe in higher powers, but the thing is I dont, so it seems to me that if these beings wanted me to believe in them they would provide their followers with better arguments. Unfortunately, the arguments are very bad.
If a theist can direct me to where the very strongest arguments are (preferably in one place) I will go and have a look, but all I have found so far are bad apologetics.
When you start with a "what if" statement you know it's not going to be good.
I've meet so many people who are quick to call other people stupid because other people know things they don't.
Has anyone ever seen any Gods/goddesses? What about demons or angels? Show up at a baseball game or something guys. Would give more credibility to thinking that you actually exist.😉😂
Atheism _ISN'T_ a thought that enters anyone's head..‡ until someone tries to put Theism in their throat..
‡ _That's the whole point._
People act like gods are just the default position in life and that you have to put in effort to NOT believe. Then again, those people are usually not very educated nor think for themselves.
@@fomori2
Thinking is *_hard!_* 😲
@@fomori2 I'm thinking it's just a variation on the shift-the-burden-of-proof strategy that Christian apologists have only been using for two thousand years.
Take a shot every time he says "hardness of our hearts"
Him telling me what I believe more and more gave me a hard something.
"Tell me more Steven, Mraaaoooowwww!"
Why don't they understand that their story book is mythology, just like any other mythology? I don't get it, like seriously.. Every theist on earth will go to someone else's hell. None of them can escape.
I suppose it's easy to see other people's myths as mythology! 😉
As for his proofs, why am I not surprised! 😂
@@johnburn8031I just don't understand it.. would they sacrifice humans as offerings to god if it was written in the buybull? "You must feed all mighty god your flesh"... Seems like nothing is too "out there" or too ridiculous for them..
The Bible is a book that is trying to sell you the biblical God. Everything in it is therefore suspect without any other outside evidence for its claims.
I honestly think Christians, if they genuinely thought human sacrifices were commanded by their deity would be engaged in human sacrifices.
Just look at how William Lane Craig defends the murder of children in the Bible!
I honestly think they would!
Just look at the horrific things William Lane Craig says!
Also, cookie is a better name that biscuit for those treats.
Give me both 🤣
Seriously! You _cook_ a cookie. You don’t _bisc_ a biscuit.
@@autonomouscollective2599 not gonna change it. Accept and move on.
Bis Cuits. Literally, Bis means Twice. Twice Cooked. It is why when left out, cakes get dryer (not cooked to dry them off) but biscuits get wetter (cooked to dry them off).
You cook beef too. Or beans. Or potatoes. Etc. But you don't call THOSE "cookies". Why?
@@autonomouscollective2599 Bis Cuits. Literally, Bis means Twice. Twice Cooked. It is why when left out, cakes get dryer (not cooked to dry them off) but biscuits get wetter (cooked to dry them off).
You cook beef too. Or beans. Or potatoes. Etc. But you don't call THOSE "cookies". Why?
@1:31 “I never really grew up thinking” … we can tell
Hasn't started either
15:50 _I remember there was a visionary on our late, late show, and she said,_
🎵 🎶*Cough cough* _Let me Clear my throat..._ *Cough cough* 🎶🎵
Interesting video.
"It requires an intelligent person to make them" - unlike his video, evidently 🙄
Wow....that bit at the end there nearly gave me an anurysm.
“Yeah I didn’t grow up religious” *proceeds to describe an exact religious upbringing* we’re off to a great start
Everytime I see this circle animation, I pray for your GPU when you edit and render at the same time.
I can hear your computer trying to fly off everytime you drop that animation on the timeline
There’s a few moments there where you can see that he’s realized that he talked himself into a contradiction, and he trails off or stops suddenly and says, oh never mind, or oh what’s the point, or just repeats the hard hearted line. He’s soooo close to having a doubt at those moments, but his double-think is too strong. He strictly disallows himself from going down that path because he knows he’s on the very edge of debunking his own claim. You can see the panic in his face as he pivots back to the safety of his religious security blanket.
9:47 damn i didn't know he had the ability to compare other realities/universes to our own in order to determine that trees require intelligence to make them.
If this poor guy even listened to HIMSELF and judged his “faith” by the same standards, he would “get it.” 😢
He says he never questioned God's existence like he didn't grow up in Ireland where they beat you with a bible from the day you're born to the day you die. 🤦♂️
Also does he not realise this is how the "debate" goes.
Atheist: "thats an interesting claim do you have any evidence"
Theist: _provides something that is clearly not or ever going to be evidence_ "here"
Atheist: "That's not evidence"
Theist: "you just don't want to listen or believe because your heart is hard!!"
Yeah he clearly dont have the listening part himself....
"Hard hearted "a person who needs more than a story thousands of years old to be convinced. 😊
Is his whole rant about him bragging about how he's gullible and believes anything, including bad reasons/evidence?
The projection is strong with this one lol
That uneducated folk calling others uneducated, makes sense mate!
There is no choice in the matter, you can't 'choose' to believe anything, either you believe or you don't.
Oh, you can will yourself into believing certain things. You absolutely should try to avoid doing that (especially for very important questions), but people do it all the time. You just start acting as if, and then a small part of your mind will adjust to accommodate that, and then you just build on that. As you go along, you systematically suppress any doubts and go out of your way to expose yourself to resources that validate the belief.
Of course, if someone insists that you chose your beliefs, it's probably because they don't know any different. They assume the rest of us must do the same as them, because the way they do it is the only way they know. Such a person is unlikely to have many interesting opinions or ideas worth hearing, because very few of them would've been acquired honestly. Just a mass of pragmatically chosen prejudices that service whatever needs they felt at the time.
No, being told is how you believe or not. What you can't choose is whether some evidence would be convincing, and indoctrination lowers or raises that bar (so if you are told "God would not say that" you would not think that voice/feeling was God, even if it was, and if you are instead told "God told you that", you would think that the voice/feeling was God, even if it wasn't).
This is not the correct way to articulate this. We DO choose our beliefs, in an ongoing process through our interactions with the real world around us. For example, I believe I'm going to go out to my truck later today and start it up and head to work. Now, if I get into my truck, insert the key, and the truck won't start (for whatever reason), then I choose to believe that my previous belief was wrong - so I have revised my belief based on new information.
Religious belief in actually an interesting case of choosing to believe in certainly religious doctrines - and then also choosing to believe that it's wrong, it's a sin, to revise those beliefs based on new information.
Regardless of any philosophical points about "free will" versus "determinism" - none of that changes the fact that our minds, produced by our brains, even with all of our foibles, have the capacity to make ongoing judgements based on incoming information and we "change our minds" based on new information as seems appropriate to us. Whereas some particular religious beliefs have developed/been designed for the specific purpose of "short-circuiting" this process in order to perpetuate the religious beliefs AGAINST the process of "changing our minds."
@@steveg1961 You're confusing knowing and believing. For example , you didn't believe you were going out and starting your truck, you knew that.
Expected Chris O'Dowd
"Humans aren't stupid. Everything is self-evident."
How to refute yourself in two easy steps!
Out of curiosity, has "You just don't like it" or "You have a hardened heart" ever been a convincing line of dialogue in any discussion about anything else?
That little casual dig at immigrants is a sign of the hardness of his heart. 13:54
1:26 Have you tried Preparation H those heamaroids give you a burning ring of fire or is it just the Chille
At least "look at the chair" is a new argument!
I have heard that argument before but with a table lol
The old watchmaker canard - destroyed by Hume - further destroyed by Darwin - is alive and well among Christian apologists today, no matter what form it takes.
So his “evidence” boils down to, “I believe it so you should”
Anyone wanna tell him all the 'arguments' he made can be used for literally any religion? Its real proof hes never gotten out of his tiny spot of the world.
So he admits he never grew up critically thinking at all and was raised to believe. Gotchya. And he is super right and the most humble
His belief provides him with a sense of inner comfort and peace. He "feels it in his heart". _For him,_ that is sufficient "evidence". Why would he question it?
Saying that anyone who doesn't believe the same thing as you is stubborn, is stubborn.
Only the Sith deal in absolutes!
8:00 are you sure you are not talking about flat earthers? 😂
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I saw some moor hens scratching and pecking through the last of the autumnal leaves over the weekend. My faith was renewed despite my hardened heart. This numpfy needs to get out more often.
Praise Lisa the 🌈🦒, and Happy Pride Month 🏳️🌈.
1:40 i would take am Irishman's advice on beer & guinness,
He keeps on about the hardness of the heart. The best part about that is the same god that he would have us worship would be responsible for the hardening of hearts.
It was a hell of a tug on hearts.
Religious people "I am so humble that I believe God created the entire universe just for me." Yeah... yeah...
But, among the funniest is "Something cannot come from nothing, and since it is impossible, that is exactly how it happened, and therefore it proves the existence of God."
Why don't they become asa believers. For the rivers Nifelheim and Muspelhemi have always existed, and from it Ymer was born, from whom Odin, Vile, and Woe built the world.
It fits their reasoning that something cannot come from nothing.
"I'm a big stupid, so you have to believe me, you big brain person!"
Did anyone else get very distracted trying to read his shirt?
Did that guy say since some guy made a chair therefore god! 😂😂😂😂