Here's an update on everything that's happening now, the courts have thrown both charges out on the 13th of March and I was excused 😅😅😅 and now I'm packed and ready to take this to Civil Court and takedown every single person involved including these officers, the principal, teacher and teacher aide will all be held accountable, so to all you fake MF's trying to tell me different you can all go and phuck yourselves hard you low vibrational MF's I know whats best for my kids not you kunts 😅😅
Good to see everyone being calm and talking with each other well done to both mum and dad and the police. I hope they sort out with the school board and that the kids are fine 👍🇳🇿
I know a child who is non-verbal , and the parents had real concerns about how the school was treating him, so they got a little small voice recording device and placed it in the childs bag and clothes .
Stand your ground, document everything. They acted like the just want this to go away . Not on. Does the school have security cameras. Wish you all well.
Not with grace grace in charge... education system has gone backwards... making teachers get get an untrialed vaccine...or getting a pay cut.. that's no going to attract the brightest or the best..! Especially when these is a teacher shortage..! Good to see respect for one another 👍
Our boy has asd, even teacher's that said they understood asd screwed it up. Right through to the end. It's a sad reality for you and your boy. Sad to say the world won't treat him right all his life. You both sound like wonderful parents, he is lucky to have you. Jono
Schools are prisons for our children. These teachers are working for a corporation that doesn't have our children's best interests at heart. If you can. Home school your children
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 You must be highly sensitive & observant of who you MIGHT allow to "access" your children. Our "modern" teachers all come down the pipe from university indoctrination. A few of these university graduates who gain employment as teachers might be best employed in butcher's shops where the work would be more suited to their nature & their forceful methods. It is widely believed it takes a village to raise a child. Government makes this impossible. The best hope for our kids now is to find honest genuine & caring people within our own local communities & have these most suitable people qualified quickly & employed within our schools. Government erects barriers to that too! You have to find ways around these barriers & place decent people inside your schools to observe those who have power over you & your kids because their university degrees empower them. Those who seek to do the wrong thing cannot stand scrutiny! So, it's up to you to move quickly & have caring people working within your local school. This tends to drive the nasty ones out. Get onto the Dept of Education & find out what they require to have Teacher's Aids, Volunteers, Nurses & any other local caring people working within that school. Advertise locally. GET YOUR OWN DEPENDABLE FAIR MINDED PEOPLE IN THERE & watch the not so nice flee like rats from a cat.
Will do mate I'm after their jobs because my son's not changing schools they will. It's too much work on our end and most of his achievements are from both his mother and myself and they have no idea how hard it is and to be honest I moved here to school my kids because I enjoyed college here and wanted them to experience the same environment but little did I know how colonial and redneck this place actually was but being around people like this for 10+ years has made me stronger and now they've brought the CU in the NT back out of me which I don't like, I was enjoying being the father, husband and man I've become on my own.
I worked in a special needs school in NSW as a support worker for a child with autism, the way the staff treat children when the doors close is horrifying. I mean jaw dropping.
Support from us here in Mackay. Had the same thing happen to my daughter - actually caught her teacher leading a conversation with another student and her mother to blame my daughter for something. When called out on it and asked on her awareness of my daughters ASD, she folded. Next thing you know its Autism Awareness day at school and the teacher was a nicer person.
Good on you mate !! You little fella would be proud of his old man !! I’ve dealt with the education board in Queensland and I’m not sure if you’ve done it yet but you should pull his one school report and hit them with the “freedom of information act” that way any literature written about your boy must be collated and have all the sensitive data taken out ie : other kids names and addresses etc . That way you receive a report with all his interactions with teachers and students . We contacted Grace Grace and had the school investigated and nothing come of our situation but I all I wanted was better training of the teachers. Good luck with you and your family my brother ! As a former Charters Towers boy I wish you and your family the best . Good luck with your little man and if no one has told you bro you handled yourself like a champion !!!
Sending prayers 🙏. Our babies hurt us when they are hurt by people we are supposed to trust with our children. I would make sure those teachers involved are never aloud to go near any child they attack ever again by marching down to the school.
They always defend each other I hear you 100% because I have dealt with the same with my own son. It’s so wrong but you are doing the right thing because you are his voice. Take care God Bless 😊
Sorry to hear your child is going through this crap. If you want to record a conversation between you and the principal of the school you can. The best way to do it is instead of video just use the voice record function and because only one person has to consent to the recording you are covered because you consent to it and the other party doesn't have to be told. I have to do this with alot of situations because I'm 6"2' and not a small fella and people use the "I am intimidating them" to take the focus off the wrong they have done. It's the only way I can cover my ass from the other person's bull.
just make sure you double check the laws of the state because they very. in qld you dont have to tell people you are voice recording at all but if they ask you must be truthful and when they decline consent then you must stop.
what Jifty here has said is true and l had to put a listening device on my child at school to get the truth of what was going on, l am in Victoria so look into the state laws for you but as far as l know, you cannot record a private conversation but at school the only place that are regarded as private is the toilet or change rooms, everything else is an open area good onya bloke for being a good dad ;) also understand that public schools these days look for kids they can call problems because they get funding for them from the government and once a school gets your child in their sights as a cash cow they like to keep em for good, they will try and get your child on all these special schemes but its not about the welfare of your child its about the money
@@markandmellwhiteley7995 cash cow kids; Victorian Child Protection run this racket, kidnap children into foster care and get massive financial return to justify contracting out to private management and employ more child protection gestapo
the school system is so badly broken it amazes me we aren't seeing the sort of things that are happening in America teachers screaming at kids and even giving them failing grades for things other than poor schoolwork my son got a d after telling the teacher she is not allowed to scream at special needs child she even admitted it to us i was quite upset after and removed my children from that school
To mum and dad. THANKYOU For giving your child a voice. I would suggest communicating with education minister. Ask the minister to give you detailed information on having a non verbal austistic child. How much funding does that school get for your child. Is your child getting fully qualified support, speech therapy, etc.. sorry, I don’t know much about autism, my daughter works with a non verbal child on the spectrum, I’ll get her to watch this and message if she can help. Lastly, I would ask the minister for permission to have a voice activated device that could be put in your child’s pocket, sew a pocket on the inside waist band. If your child is non verbal you have the right to feel that your child is in good hands. Also my son has an aboriginal friend he went through school with and I’m sure I heard him say he got extra allowances when he went to uni. If all else fails, send this to uncle at the tent embassy at Canberra. THANKYOU again for being such good parents. Debbie NSW
Thanks so much get in touch with me on Facebook @ "Lionel Sarmardin Drumming" so we can swap numbers to talk further and please do I will wait for a text or a friends request 😀
Good on You mate well spoken police should never been called typical school happened to me with my daughter little incident next day police come to my house wanting to question my 6 year old daughter in her room on her own in my house no way did I let that happen because of one teacher unbelievable
My nephew is non verbal and he is autistic, yelling, screaming and or raising your voice in a negative or demanding way to any child causes trauma and teaches them to react in a way that is emotionally and socially unhealthy, sounds like the teachers need an education on child care and especially a good talking to about showing compassion and kindness when a child is obviously distressed, unsettled or unwell. Children with autism are so super sensitive to negative emotions and verbal nastiness. Did they think they could get away with it because that poor young fella could not go home and explain verbally to his parents what happened. What a lucky boy to have such a loving sister and wonderful caring parents. Sending the Police to the family home was total over kill and shows the guilt from the school taking it that far. Trying to gas light the parents for protecting their children WOW. The police officer was a decent guy but he should have been in the school giving those teachers a warning for miss treating a helpless child who can not verbally defend himself. Seems to me they are a lil worried about being caught out doing the wrong thing. I really hope this was a one off and they learn from this. Like the mum said if they are not coping with the child or the child is having a melt down, get his sister to help calm him and call his parents to come and assist or always give advice on what to do. Don’t force the kid and cause more stress and anxiety. I hope it doesn’t turn him off enjoying his swimming as it should be a fun and exciting experience for him not a traumatic event. Well done to these loving parents ❤ if only all humans had this type of parental compassion.
Looks like a clear cut case of the Police doing their best to make sure that you do not take the matter any further. That bit of sweet talking by the Senior Constable at the end, about letting them sort it out, makes sense with your updated comment about the teacher being the wife of a Police Officer. I am ex- Q'ld Police and I would not trust them at all. All the best to you and yours.
Why is everything involving government got such an issue with being recorded? As they love to say all the time "if you're not doin anything wrong, what's the problem with it?". Seems it only works on us people not them hey. You guys handled this very well, you stood your ground without going overboard or giving them any reason to start shit. Well done guys!
More power to you in looking after your special one. I dont like anyone wearing a gun ever - police or army - never really nice talking with someone who is wearing a gun.. That said, that Policeman was surprisingly good in dealing with this - and trying to help you move through it. And well done you - I would have been very loud if ppl arc up on my kids Sincerely hoping that you and your family power through this and that the school has removed/minimised the hurdles for future events.
Thanks mate I'm sure I had my ancestors with me that day because every time I wanted to go off my head and swear its like something was holding my tongue and temper
This sort of shit happens way more than you can imagine. I have been to the school several times for my son who has ADHD, he is an extremely talented hands on lad. But the teachers don't get paid by performance so why should they give a fuck. It's wrong and it needs to change. I'll stand by you on this one for sure. What's his talent. (Sorry 1st time seeing your vids)
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 hey mate. Here's a brand new example of karma doing it's job. My son has recently been putting up with bullies at school and school not delivering a satisfying result on so many occasions. Myself and my son have been working extremely hard especially on a mental level, trying not to resort to violence as we normally would. This week my son received a phone call from nth Qld cowboys recruitment manager. Everybody in there own time and own way gets offered karma's hand. Chin up brother..
Honestly, can't speak for the school. But the way the police and yourself handled this discussion was really good. I genuinely believe those police officers cared and actually listened with understanding of the situation.
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 Be very careful there. CCTV is valuable when YOU have some control over it. Letting THEM have CCTV gives them the capacity to edit out anything that shows THEM up & only leave footage that supports their agenda. Any dealings with police quickly shows those tactics up. Remember... You're dealing with government here. Power tends to go to their heads. Giving them more tools like CCTV could enhance THEIR power over YOU.
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 It is not for me to comment on the conduct of your kids. You said in the footage that it was important to you to instil honesty in your kids & I have absolutely no reason to doubt your word. The point I make is that gov has a massive arsenal of junk aimed at us already. Them gov grubs don't need any more equipment they can fiddle with to use against us. I cannot go along with the idea of gov goons sitting at monitors gawking at our kids either! This world is run by greedy, lying, luxury seeking arseholes & there's a ton of evidence out there confirming some of those really sick arseholes just love footage of children. I'd prefer to keep the cameras OFF OUR KIDS! Police love to pick blues & then react. Their footage never shows them causing the blues. They start the cameras when it suits them. I strongly advise getting caring people engaged in the school & I advise against any more rotten CCTV.
🛑🛑UPDATE🛑🛑 I've now been informed that the teacher in this situation is the wife of officer Ansell of Charters Towers QLD Police and was the driver of the PCYC BUS this afternoon normally we have another officer. Today this prick tried staring me down while driving the bus and pulling up at our house with my daughter who normally catches the bus, who I stared right back at in his eyes and if he's a man come see me without any weapons or your uniform bud because I guarantee you I will be the last man standing I promise that ok. NOW EVERYTHING IS MAKING SENSE AND NOW YOU CAN ALL SEE FOR YOURSELVES...
@@gogetem188 WRONG! The school is married to the "cops" mentioned in this case & it's emerging that intimation is escalating. We shouldn't have to put up with any such crap... EVER. However, it is the nature of some smartarses to flex their little muscles. A peaceful solution would be best. A peaceful solution can never be reached when the grub deliberately DISTURBING YOUR PEACE has a government position, a gun, a massive army at his disposal & a vicious attitude. Lionel has NOT done the wrong thing. Those who try to intimidate him are doing the wrong thing. Trying to force him to remain quiet is not likely to succeed. He's getting harrassed & he's getting tired of it. He isn't a snowflake & he's telling the arseholes of this world to back off. THEY WON'T. Arseholes are arseholes. They enjoy what they do. He is best advised to go public to expose what they're doing to him & his family. Shining a bright light on a rat is what he's doing & that rat might just retreat. He needs incentive to keep his cool, without having to be stood over in acceptance of intimidation. He is not to be left alone until this situation is resolved. The alarm must be raised in his community & he must be supported by decent caring locals who fully understand his position. It may be time to consult his local member of parliament to have his concerns recorded officially before this thing escalates.
Respect to you and the copper. You are a very nice human being man.Why was the police involved.? The principal should have dealt with this.This is a non issue.😩👍🏽
I am Australian living in Europe. The schools there are way behind in my opinion. But keep your chin up mate. Also hope to be living in Charters Towers one day.
The only logical reason for not wanting to be recorded is they want to control the evidence. Qld is a one person consent state (if you know your recording it’s legal). All my phone calls are recorded and any other important interactions. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THEIR CONSENT TO RECORD. but do it covertly, so they don’t hold back what they say.
Exactly what I've pointed out to all parties today in a recorded call plus had the police involved again which I didn't record because I wanted to prove my point as a father and a man that their policies don't mean shit to me and they just made fools of themselves and I feel very good because my wife made the deputy principal cry today 😢 and told her now you understand where we are coming, so we have now lifted the guilt they tried pushing onto us back onto them which feel good and the way it should be, no kid is in the wrong place at the wrong time...
My Sons female teacher that was overly very affectionate with my son, asked the Laidley High School principal to contact police, after a driving lesson in which my son nearly had an accident and was upset, and I was supportive to my son and dropped him off at the school as requested. However due to this irrational female teacher, we were contacted by police for no reason for alleged 'child abuse' Teachers should keep a professional relationship with students and not get emotionally or sexually wanting involved.
They obviously have something to hide since they don't want the conversation on record. Just because someone is a teacher does not mean they are not doing the wrong thing, same goes for anyone, police, politicians doesn't matter what position they hold. You do the wrong thing, than you face the consequences for your actions.
One of the biggest failures has been sending kids with disabilities to mainstream schools. The people at those schools are not trained properly and are under staffed.The unsuitable use of time out resulted in kids being locked in cupboards and all sorts of things. We live in a society that is not ready for that because at the end of the day people with disabilities are still dealing with very significant hatred from the community. A few sympathisers don’t make for community acceptance or education about the situation. When you combine cultural and racial issues this stuff becomes outright painful and leaves it’s scares on families.Sometimes there is no community.
Going to court next month so see where it goes from here mate, they tried hard to sweep it it under the carpet but thanks to all the views and support online they've had no other choice but to take action...
That's odd. I replied to you in that column where LROY was coming across with some wide of the mark concepts. That whole column has vanished, replies & all.
Here's an update on everything that's happening now, the courts have thrown both charges out on the 13th of March and I was excused 😅😅😅 and now I'm packed and ready to take this to Civil Court and takedown every single person involved including these officers, the principal, teacher and teacher aide will all be held accountable, so to all you fake MF's trying to tell me different you can all go and phuck yourselves hard you low vibrational MF's I know whats best for my kids not you kunts 😅😅
They just Gutless to have a Record that they cant dispute. I would go and record them with out telling them. In Qld thats perfectly fine legal and nothing wrong with it. Police do it all the time
This 2022 and Teachers still have Sweet FA of any idea in how to deal with children with learning issues. It should be compulsory across the board in education university studies about different learning styles of students and students with learning issues like this. In an Aspie and the crap I went through in school in the 80s and early 90s was horrible. Ohhh you are acting up this list goes on of crap I had dumped on me a person on the Autistic spectrum. I understand where these parents are at and how they feel. They sound smarter than these teachers
The "teachers " in this case I believe thought the young lad in question was deaf and that was why they were yelling at him they also speak slowly and in raised volume if they think you can't speak English
The best result would be to discipline the teachers maybe stand them down re train them or ultimately fire them. The word used today is zero tolerance and unexceptionable.
Yes my point again I didn't understand why the police were involved then I've been informed that the teacher is a police officers wife here in Charters Towers QLD makes sense now...
Not a good situation all round mate. Remember you are setting an example to your children. Please be very careful what you say and do on camera. My personal opinion is, it's good to see you standing up to the system. Even if you use a diary to record what happens, that is used as evidence in any Cort in Auz. Good on you mate, keep on beaning gr8 permeants.
I will be fighting them with common law not their fictional law and they know it too, I come from a very long line of activists so I know the government better than they know themselves. I've got this mate don't worry all is good...
I think those teachers need some proper discipline with a paddle in the local car park. Absolute clowns of a education system. God bless you good parents and stand your ground. I came to Australia in 1999 and the racism and attack on my ethnic background from teachers was unspeakable.
Thanks mate and as a traditional owner of this land I am so sorry that you had to deal with these scums honestly we are different to the rest of so-called Australia
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 These politicians and police still act like they didn't murder and steal your lands, they tried with my people in Europe for hundreds of years, we fought back and won but at big loses. Their days are numbered, and I'm on your side.
See comments like these are only because white people know they're going extinct lmfbao, only reason the cop was nice because he was being recorded and the dog knows his days are numbered like the rest of you...
You have no idea what I've been through and where I've come from bud what's this gonna turn into a pissing contest about who's had the most abuse seriously lad I'm more worried about changing it for the better, one step at a time...
Only what you see I had another video of bothe being CU in the NTs and the male cowboy accusing me of telling him to shut up and me and him going toe to toe and he knew he was on camera until the other officer split us up so thats that and I deleted the proxy clip by accident when I was posting all of this...
A few things - first, sorry your little boy, and family are going through this horrible situation. Have you considered Home Education ? As you would be Home Educating due to special needs you would be entitled to the AIC payment that greatly helps towards educational items, and experiences - it's around $4,500 per year which is broken into 4 payments that you receive at the beginning of each term, you also have no requirements to work with centrelink as you are educating your child. My youngest was completely nonverbal with multiple neurological conditions - at 5.5 years old I was told he was one of the kids that would never talk, and it was time to integrate him into the deaf community to lower the chances of suicide when he reached his teens - that was the level of desperation I needed to try him on the GAPS protocol = which had him start talking within a fortnight, and greatly improved ALL of his other neurological, sensory etc issues, it's hard to believe he is the same child = I just want to recommend looking into that for your son. Also Shane Knuth is your local MP, his an amazing help in situations like this, he has a heart, and special interest in special needs kids and families - maybe contact him and see if he can help. Best of luck.
This is outragous " Sounds like the teachers are abusing your children are just trying to cover their tracks naturally I use the local police absolute joke
A few things - first, sorry your little boy, and family are going through this horrible situation. Have you considered Home Education ? As you would be Home Educating due to special needs you would be entitled to the AIC payment that greatly helps towards educational items, and experiences - it's around $4,500 per year which is broken into 4 payments that you receive at the beginning of each term, you also have no requirements to work with centrelink as you are educating your child. My youngest was completely nonverbal with multiple neurological conditions - at 5.5 years old I was told he was one of the kids that would never talk, and it was time to integrate him into the deaf community to lower the chances of suicide when he reached his teens - that was the level of desperation I needed to try him on the GAPS protocol = which had him start talking within a fortnight, and greatly improved ALL of his other neurological, sensory etc issues, it's hard to believe he is the same child = I just want to recommend looking into that for your son. Also Shane Knuth is your local MP, his an amazing help in situations like this, he has a heart, and special interest in special needs kids and families - maybe contact him and see if he can help. Best of luck.
Also, the best part of home education is that it can be completely individualized for each student, you get to create a curriculum based on your child's interests, so they are more interested, and active in their own education.
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 that's great to hear - are you going through the HEU with your own program? Or doing a distance ed one? They are two very different beasts.
Here's an update on everything that's happening now, the courts have thrown both charges out on the 13th of March and I was excused 😅😅😅 and now I'm packed and ready to take this to Civil Court and takedown every single person involved including these officers, the principal, teacher and teacher aide will all be held accountable, so to all you fake MF's trying to tell me different you can all go and phuck yourselves hard you low vibrational MF's I know whats best for my kids not you kunts 😅😅
Power to you Keep Fires Burning Dont ever let anyone push us back down again.
Good to see everyone being calm and talking with each other well done to both mum and dad and the police. I hope they sort out with the school board and that the kids are fine
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Just watched back on your videos relating to this situation. Much love brother to you and your family. Thank you for being a man!
Thank you and please share...
Feel for you mate. Kids and struggling with communication is one of the hardest thing to do!
Very much appreciated...
I know a child who is non-verbal , and the parents had real concerns about how the school was treating him, so they got a little small voice recording device and placed it in the childs bag and clothes .
Have them contact me on Facebook @ Lionel Sarmardin Drumming
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 I will let them know cobber.
@@TheRealBobSmith. too easy old mate...
He looks like a real good bloke I bet he’s got good kids I fully support him standing up for them
Thanks mate very much appreciated 😊
I encourage everyone to please share this to all platforms you have available and it will be greatly appreciated
@@737simviator Thanks so much brother and very much appreciated aye don't hear that much...
Stand your ground, document everything. They acted like the just want this to go away . Not on. Does the school have security cameras. Wish you all well.
No security cameras but remember they can edit it themselves, they seem very cunning and thanks for your support 👍
I love how the indigenous handle things. They way it should be done.. thank you.
You're welcome 😊
It's how a real human being does live life.
Go to the Education Board bro, because it sounds like the school wants to sweep it under the carpet.
Already done if I'm not happy next step is court
Not with grace grace in charge... education system has gone backwards... making teachers get get an untrialed vaccine...or getting a pay cut.. that's no going to attract the brightest or the best..! Especially when these is a teacher shortage..! Good to see respect for one another 👍
Homeschool kids peeps. Find groups on telegram
I have everything in place for homeschooling as we speak so I have more control on what my kids learn and my sons development and learning...
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 don't bother cuz, been there done that.
They don't give a shit.
Our boy has asd, even teacher's that said they understood asd screwed it up. Right through to the end.
It's a sad reality for you and your boy. Sad to say the world won't treat him right all his life.
You both sound like wonderful parents, he is lucky to have you.
Jono
He will be well looked after mate he has my spirit 👍
Good on you mate, good parents looking after their own community.
Schools are prisons for our children.
These teachers are working for a corporation that doesn't have our children's best interests at heart.
If you can. Home school your children
I think that will be a much better option...
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309
You must be highly sensitive & observant of who you MIGHT allow to "access" your children. Our "modern" teachers all come down the pipe from university indoctrination. A few of these university graduates who gain employment as teachers might be best employed in butcher's shops where the work would be more suited to their nature & their forceful methods.
It is widely believed it takes a village to raise a child. Government makes this impossible. The best hope for our kids now is to find honest genuine & caring people within our own local communities & have these most suitable people qualified quickly & employed within our schools. Government erects barriers to that too! You have to find ways around these barriers & place decent people inside your schools to observe those who have power over you & your kids because their university degrees empower them. Those who seek to do the wrong thing cannot stand scrutiny! So, it's up to you to move quickly & have caring people working within your local school. This tends to drive the nasty ones out. Get onto the Dept of Education & find out what they require to have Teacher's Aids, Volunteers, Nurses & any other local caring people working within that school. Advertise locally. GET YOUR OWN DEPENDABLE FAIR MINDED PEOPLE IN THERE & watch the not so nice flee like rats from a cat.
Will do mate I'm after their jobs because my son's not changing schools they will. It's too much work on our end and most of his achievements are from both his mother and myself and they have no idea how hard it is and to be honest I moved here to school my kids because I enjoyed college here and wanted them to experience the same environment but little did I know how colonial and redneck this place actually was but being around people like this for 10+ years has made me stronger and now they've brought the CU in the NT back out of me which I don't like, I was enjoying being the father, husband and man I've become on my own.
💯 Percent agree,
I worked in a special needs school in NSW as a support worker for a child with autism, the way the staff treat children when the doors close is horrifying. I mean jaw dropping.
Support from us here in Mackay.
Had the same thing happen to my daughter - actually caught her teacher leading a conversation with another student and her mother to blame my daughter for something. When called out on it and asked on her awareness of my daughters ASD, she folded.
Next thing you know its Autism Awareness day at school and the teacher was a nicer person.
Thanks so much, get in touch and work together ❤
Mack Town represent
@@tysonrolls9713 thanks brother...
Good on you mate !! You little fella would be proud of his old man !! I’ve dealt with the education board in Queensland and I’m not sure if you’ve done it yet but you should pull his one school report and hit them with the “freedom of information act” that way any literature written about your boy must be collated and have all the sensitive data taken out ie : other kids names and addresses etc . That way you receive a report with all his interactions with teachers and students . We contacted Grace Grace and had the school investigated and nothing come of our situation but I all I wanted was better training of the teachers. Good luck with you and your family my brother ! As a former Charters Towers boy I wish you and your family the best . Good luck with your little man and if no one has told you bro you handled yourself like a champion !!!
Thanks brother I really do appreciate it, I'm on my own here with no family not easy...
Stand your ground brother, that's how you protect your family
Thanks brother
Sending prayers 🙏. Our babies hurt us when they are hurt by people we are supposed to trust with our children.
I would make sure those teachers involved are never aloud to go near any child they attack ever again by marching down to the school.
Hey man I hope your child is ok❤️. Sending love to you all from the NSW mid north coast✌️❤️
Thanks bro he's safe at home doing homeschooling now
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 good to know brother👍.
They always defend each other I hear you 100% because I have dealt with the same with my own son. It’s so wrong but you are doing the right thing because you are his voice. Take care God Bless 😊
Thanks so much and if you need help get in touch with me through my Facebook account @ Lionel Sarmardin Drumming.
Sorry to hear your child is going through this crap.
If you want to record a conversation between you and the principal of the school you can. The best way to do it is instead of video just use the voice record function and because only one person has to consent to the recording you are covered because you consent to it and the other party doesn't have to be told. I have to do this with alot of situations because I'm 6"2' and not a small fella and people use the "I am intimidating them" to take the focus off the wrong they have done. It's the only way I can cover my ass from the other person's bull.
Thanks so much aye its my way or the highway and I'm sure they're aware of that now.
just make sure you double check the laws of the state because they very. in qld you dont have to tell people you are voice recording at all but if they ask you must be truthful and when they decline consent then you must stop.
what Jifty here has said is true and l had to put a listening device on my child at school to get the truth of what was going on, l am in Victoria so look into the state laws for you
but as far as l know, you cannot record a private conversation but at school the only place that are regarded as private is the toilet or change rooms, everything else is an open area
good onya bloke for being a good dad ;)
also understand that public schools these days look for kids they can call problems because they get funding for them from the government and once a school gets your child in their sights as a cash cow they like to keep em for good, they will try and get your child on all these special schemes but its not about the welfare of your child its about the money
@@markandmellwhiteley7995 thanks so much Mark and Mell we appreciate all of the support we can get on this...
@@markandmellwhiteley7995 cash cow kids; Victorian Child Protection run this racket, kidnap children into foster care and get massive financial return to justify contracting out to private management and employ more child protection gestapo
the school system is so badly broken it amazes me we aren't seeing the sort of things that are happening in America teachers screaming at kids and even giving them failing grades for things other than poor schoolwork my son got a d after telling the teacher she is not allowed to scream at special needs child she even admitted it to us i was quite upset after and removed my children from that school
To mum and dad.
THANKYOU For giving your child a voice. I would suggest communicating with education minister.
Ask the minister to give you detailed information on having a non verbal austistic child. How much funding does that school get for your child. Is your child getting fully qualified support, speech therapy, etc..
sorry, I don’t know much about autism, my daughter works with a non verbal child on the spectrum, I’ll get her to watch this and message if she can help.
Lastly, I would ask the minister for permission to have a voice activated device that could be put in your child’s pocket, sew a pocket on the inside waist band. If your child is non verbal you have the right to feel that your child is in good hands. Also my son has an aboriginal friend he went through school with and I’m sure I heard him say he got extra allowances when he went to uni.
If all else fails, send this to uncle at the tent embassy at Canberra.
THANKYOU again for being such good parents.
Debbie NSW
Thanks so much get in touch with me on Facebook @ "Lionel Sarmardin Drumming" so we can swap numbers to talk further and please do I will wait for a text or a friends request 😀
Why didn’t the police disclose that one of the teachers is married to a police??
@@debbiewatts8665 Yep my point exactly 💯
Peace love and light Guys, Hope it all works out for yous.
Appreciate it so much guys, one love...
All I wanna know, is did the sarge come good in the end?
I made him apologize if you listen carefully and told him to never paint me with the same brush ever again.
No common sense in the education department,you handled that well
Thanks 😊
Copper was respectful and just doing his job imo
Just doing his job to ensure that the issue goes away.
@@johnvienta7622 exactly 💯
Good on
You mate well spoken police should never been called typical school happened to me with my daughter little incident next day police come to my house wanting to question my 6 year old daughter in her room on her own in my house no way did I let that happen because of one teacher unbelievable
Thanks Blaine and thats good you stood your ground, we ain't quiet like our old people were made to be quiet 👌 use our voices and move mountains ⛰
If the school is not concerned with violence being committed why the eff did they call the police???
You have a right to document these people yet it's amazing how these entities refuse to face accountability now days. I wish you all the best.👍✌️
Record every time you are in contact with any Government department and you must get legal help!
Don't take their shit bro, stand by your principles.
Always bro thanks for that and please share
Master class in acting inn honour. Beautifully done. Hope the lad is doing well
My nephew is non verbal and he is autistic, yelling, screaming and or raising your voice in a negative or demanding way to any child causes trauma and teaches them to react in a way that is emotionally and socially unhealthy, sounds like the teachers need an education on child care and especially a good talking to about showing compassion and kindness when a child is obviously distressed, unsettled or unwell. Children with autism are so super sensitive to negative emotions and verbal nastiness. Did they think they could get away with it because that poor young fella could not go home and explain verbally to his parents what happened. What a lucky boy to have such a loving sister and wonderful caring parents. Sending the Police to the family home was total over kill and shows the guilt from the school taking it that far. Trying to gas light the parents for protecting their children WOW. The police officer was a decent guy but he should have been in the school giving those teachers a warning for miss treating a helpless child who can not verbally defend himself. Seems to me they are a lil worried about being caught out doing the wrong thing. I really hope this was a one off and they learn from this. Like the mum said if they are not coping with the child or the child is having a melt down, get his sister to help calm him and call his parents to come and assist or always give advice on what to do. Don’t force the kid and cause more stress and anxiety. I hope it doesn’t turn him off enjoying his swimming as it should be a fun and exciting experience for him not a traumatic event. Well done to these loving parents ❤ if only all humans had this type of parental compassion.
Looks like a clear cut case of the Police doing their best to make sure that you do not take the matter any further. That bit of sweet talking by the Senior Constable at the end, about letting them sort it out, makes sense with your updated comment about the teacher being the wife of a Police Officer. I am ex- Q'ld Police and I would not trust them at all. All the best to you and yours.
I don't trust any of them I am now homeschooling my kids.
Why did the cops even need to be called. These teachers are incompetent.
@@cathybaldry7822 exactly 💯
Poor little guy. Honestly schools need to get their shit together
Why is everything involving government got such an issue with being recorded? As they love to say all the time "if you're not doin anything wrong, what's the problem with it?". Seems it only works on us people not them hey. You guys handled this very well, you stood your ground without going overboard or giving them any reason to start shit. Well done guys!
More power to you in looking after your special one.
I dont like anyone wearing a gun ever - police or army - never really nice talking with someone who is wearing a gun..
That said, that Policeman was surprisingly good in dealing with this - and trying to help you move through it.
And well done you - I would have been very loud if ppl arc up on my kids
Sincerely hoping that you and your family power through this and that the school has removed/minimised the hurdles for future events.
PS: i have had 6 police at my door wrt my kids.
Thanks mate I'm sure I had my ancestors with me that day because every time I wanted to go off my head and swear its like something was holding my tongue and temper
This sort of shit happens way more than you can imagine. I have been to the school several times for my son who has ADHD, he is an extremely talented hands on lad. But the teachers don't get paid by performance so why should they give a fuck. It's wrong and it needs to change. I'll stand by you on this one for sure. What's his talent. (Sorry 1st time seeing your vids)
Thanks for your support honestly appreciated
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 hey mate. Here's a brand new example of karma doing it's job. My son has recently been putting up with bullies at school and school not delivering a satisfying result on so many occasions. Myself and my son have been working extremely hard especially on a mental level, trying not to resort to violence as we normally would. This week my son received a phone call from nth Qld cowboys recruitment manager. Everybody in there own time and own way gets offered karma's hand. Chin up brother..
@@atwo4x466 Thanks brother very much appreciated
Honestly, can't speak for the school. But the way the police and yourself handled this discussion was really good. I genuinely believe those police officers cared and actually listened with understanding of the situation.
education department scared of cameras surprise surprise all the best guys
The police officers were polite, professional, and handled the situation in a calm considerate manner.
Does the school have CCTV
None whatsoever which I will be requesting...
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309
Be very careful there. CCTV is valuable when YOU have some control over it. Letting THEM have CCTV gives them the capacity to edit out anything that shows THEM up & only leave footage that supports their agenda. Any dealings with police quickly shows those tactics up. Remember... You're dealing with government here. Power tends to go to their heads. Giving them more tools like CCTV could enhance THEIR power over YOU.
@@johnbrooks9523 also true I know my kids don't lie regardless
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309
It is not for me to comment on the conduct of your kids. You said in the footage that it was important to you to instil honesty in your kids & I have absolutely no reason to doubt your word.
The point I make is that gov has a massive arsenal of junk aimed at us already. Them gov grubs don't need any more equipment they can fiddle with to use against us. I cannot go along with the idea of gov goons sitting at monitors gawking at our kids either! This world is run by greedy, lying, luxury seeking arseholes & there's a ton of evidence out there confirming some of those really sick arseholes just love footage of children. I'd prefer to keep the cameras OFF OUR KIDS!
Police love to pick blues & then react. Their footage never shows them causing the blues. They start the cameras when it suits them. I strongly advise getting caring people engaged in the school & I advise against any more rotten CCTV.
@@johnbrooks9523 appreciate all that information John and will use it to my advantage 👍
🛑🛑UPDATE🛑🛑 I've now been informed that the teacher in this situation is the wife of officer Ansell of Charters Towers QLD Police and was the driver of the PCYC BUS this afternoon normally we have another officer. Today this prick tried staring me down while driving the bus and pulling up at our house with my daughter who normally catches the bus, who I stared right back at in his eyes and if he's a man come see me without any weapons or your uniform bud because I guarantee you I will be the last man standing I promise that ok. NOW EVERYTHING IS MAKING SENSE AND NOW YOU CAN ALL SEE FOR YOURSELVES...
THE ONLY PLACE YOU'LL BE standing is JAIL then who will look after ya family dude chill ya problem is with the school not cops ? just saying
@@gogetem188
WRONG!
The school is married to the "cops" mentioned in this case & it's emerging that intimation is escalating.
We shouldn't have to put up with any such crap... EVER. However, it is the nature of some smartarses to flex their little muscles.
A peaceful solution would be best. A peaceful solution can never be reached when the grub deliberately DISTURBING YOUR PEACE has a government position, a gun, a massive army at his disposal & a vicious attitude.
Lionel has NOT done the wrong thing. Those who try to intimidate him are doing the wrong thing. Trying to force him to remain quiet is not likely to succeed. He's getting harrassed & he's getting tired of it. He isn't a snowflake & he's telling the arseholes of this world to back off. THEY WON'T. Arseholes are arseholes. They enjoy what they do.
He is best advised to go public to expose what they're doing to him & his family. Shining a bright light on a rat is what he's doing & that rat might just retreat.
He needs incentive to keep his cool, without having to be stood over in acceptance of intimidation. He is not to be left alone until this situation is resolved. The alarm must be raised in his community & he must be supported by decent caring locals who fully understand his position. It may be time to consult his local member of parliament to have his concerns recorded officially before this thing escalates.
Letting it go viral. Well done. U watch they will try sweeping it under the mat.
@@benjaminbowes9543 not as long as I'm kicking mate 👍 stay tuned...
Lionel, just wanted you and your beautiful wife know I’ve shared.
Debbie NSW
I reckon this copper did pretty ok he has to take orders I think he was pretty respectful definitely could of been worse all the best to you mate
Respect to you and the copper. You are a very nice human being man.Why was the police involved.? The principal should have dealt with this.This is a non issue.😩👍🏽
My point exactly brother I was definitely confused but alert also
Corrupt police, corrupt school officials..... Get a Solicitor.. !!!
What does the school have to hide that they don't want to be on camera? kinda sounds a bit sus
I am Australian living in Europe. The schools there are way behind in my opinion. But keep your chin up mate. Also hope to be living in Charters Towers one day.
Good luck with this hole of a place mate...
Has to be better than 6 months of grey wet and 0 degrees cold every day.
Nope
Gestarpo bustudes.good on you stand up to them.
The only logical reason for not wanting to be recorded is they want to control the evidence. Qld is a one person consent state (if you know your recording it’s legal). All my phone calls are recorded and any other important interactions. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THEIR CONSENT TO RECORD. but do it covertly, so they don’t hold back what they say.
Exactly what I've pointed out to all parties today in a recorded call plus had the police involved again which I didn't record because I wanted to prove my point as a father and a man that their policies don't mean shit to me and they just made fools of themselves and I feel very good because my wife made the deputy principal cry today 😢 and told her now you understand where we are coming, so we have now lifted the guilt they tried pushing onto us back onto them which feel good and the way it should be, no kid is in the wrong place at the wrong time...
Seems to me more training is needed at the school in dealing with special needs.......thumbs up to dad and the cop in discussing it like adults
Don’t back down bloke all the best to ya and ya family
Thanks bloke
Well , they have no authority , they are a corporation
My Sons female teacher that was overly very affectionate with my son, asked the Laidley High School principal to contact police, after a driving lesson in which my son nearly had an accident and was upset, and I was supportive to my son and dropped him off at the school as requested. However due to this irrational female teacher, we were contacted by police for no reason for alleged 'child abuse' Teachers should keep a professional relationship with students and not get emotionally or sexually wanting involved.
This has nothing to do with the cops.
Talk to a lawyer mate, school can't refuse a meeting being recorded thru a lawyer.
We're getting things done as we speak and it may take time especially with these fools...
Buy a little security camera for him . Trust your instincts. They won't know your recording if you buy a little badge style .
Definitely the next step for his security and safety...
They obviously have something to hide since they don't want the conversation on record. Just because someone is a teacher does not mean they are not doing the wrong thing, same goes for anyone, police, politicians doesn't matter what position they hold. You do the wrong thing, than you face the consequences for your actions.
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One of the biggest failures has been sending kids with disabilities to mainstream schools. The people at those schools are not trained properly and are under staffed.The unsuitable use of time out resulted in kids being locked in cupboards and all sorts of things. We live in a society that is not ready for that because at the end of the day people with disabilities are still dealing with very significant hatred from the community. A few sympathisers don’t make for community acceptance or education about the situation. When you combine cultural and racial issues this stuff becomes outright painful and leaves it’s scares on families.Sometimes there is no community.
gosh my sister just moved to Charters Towers for work 😆..and I get this video ?🤣😂
Bully teachers.
Updates please
Going to court next month so see where it goes from here mate, they tried hard to sweep it it under the carpet but thanks to all the views and support online they've had no other choice but to take action...
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 Good luck I wish you all the best. Hopefully you do get justice.
Bruz, send a complaint to the Qld College of Teachers and start a paper trail.
Got everything in process 2 days after the clips bro
Verbal assault bruz
What do these teachers got to hide to waste police time???????
Exactly my point...
One of the teachers is a wife of a police officer here in Charters Towers QLD.
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 And we all know how that works. Stay strong and sending you and your family love from Northern Ireland ❤️👨👩👦❤️
Thanks so much guys very much appreciated...
Let the poor old cops in out of the Sun.
Lroy is gone done be like Lroy...
That's odd. I replied to you in that column where LROY was coming across with some wide of the mark concepts. That whole column has vanished, replies & all.
Here's an update on everything that's happening now, the courts have thrown both charges out on the 13th of March and I was excused 😅😅😅 and now I'm packed and ready to take this to Civil Court and takedown every single person involved including these officers, the principal, teacher and teacher aide will all be held accountable, so to all you fake MF's trying to tell me different you can all go and phuck yourselves hard you low vibrational MF's I know whats best for my kids not you kunts 😅😅
Not very often do you see a cop do policing correctly, good onya copper
They just Gutless to have a Record that they cant dispute. I would go and record them with out telling them. In Qld thats perfectly fine legal and nothing wrong with it. Police do it all the time
Yep- air support and canine unit be next 😂
This 2022 and Teachers still have Sweet FA of any idea in how to deal with children with learning issues. It should be compulsory across the board in education university studies about different learning styles of students and students with learning issues like this. In an Aspie and the crap I went through in school in the 80s and early 90s was horrible. Ohhh you are acting up this list goes on of crap I had dumped on me a person on the Autistic spectrum. I understand where these parents are at and how they feel. They sound smarter than these teachers
Thanks so much and we are. They have know idea how much I'm taking them for I will go as far as taking everything they have ever owned
The "teachers " in this case I believe thought the young lad in question was deaf and that was why they were yelling at him they also speak slowly and in raised volume if they think you can't speak English
Bullshit the kunt knew
The best result would be to discipline the teachers maybe stand them down re train them or ultimately fire them. The word used today is zero tolerance and unexceptionable.
Exactly my point on all of this...
Can we get subtitles in English please.
What are you trying to say ya nonse
This is not a Police matter. Get out of the way police.
Yes my point again I didn't understand why the police were involved then I've been informed that the teacher is a police officers wife here in Charters Towers QLD makes sense now...
Not a good situation all round mate. Remember you are setting an example to your children. Please be very careful what you say and do on camera. My personal opinion is, it's good to see you standing up to the system. Even if you use a diary to record what happens, that is used as evidence in any Cort in Auz. Good on you mate, keep on beaning gr8 permeants.
I will be fighting them with common law not their fictional law and they know it too, I come from a very long line of activists so I know the government better than they know themselves. I've got this mate don't worry all is good...
I think those teachers need some proper discipline with a paddle in the local car park. Absolute clowns of a education system. God bless you good parents and stand your ground. I came to Australia in 1999 and the racism and attack on my ethnic background from teachers was unspeakable.
Thanks mate and as a traditional owner of this land I am so sorry that you had to deal with these scums honestly we are different to the rest of so-called Australia
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 These politicians and police still act like they didn't murder and steal your lands, they tried with my people in Europe for hundreds of years, we fought back and won but at big loses. Their days are numbered, and I'm on your side.
Thanks so much mate really appreciated
What The Fuck.Where’s. My Mob
Good question 🤔
I'm here on my own
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 Stay Strong My Brother .🪃
i go to that school
Dont beat you kids...be rational.
See comments like these are only because white people know they're going extinct lmfbao, only reason the cop was nice because he was being recorded and the dog knows his days are numbered like the rest of you...
Ftp!!!!
If you think thats intimidation by Qpol, You are living the high life....
You have no idea what I've been through and where I've come from bud what's this gonna turn into a pissing contest about who's had the most abuse seriously lad I'm more worried about changing it for the better, one step at a time...
I actually do live a private and stabled lifestyle which I'm not guilty of because I worked a lot for what I have...
Not intimidation just talking
intimidation... ? seemed like a very civil conversation from both parties
Only what you see I had another video of bothe being CU in the NTs and the male cowboy accusing me of telling him to shut up and me and him going toe to toe and he knew he was on camera until the other officer split us up so thats that and I deleted the proxy clip by accident when I was posting all of this...
Wtf are the cops doing in this situation anyways this is no police matter this is a lawful matter, I don't care about policy I want to see procedure.
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 fair play mate ive only seen this video cheers bud
That is what the only thing that they've good at. Antimindation
A few things - first, sorry your little boy, and family are going through this horrible situation.
Have you considered Home Education ? As you would be Home Educating due to special needs you would be entitled to the AIC payment that greatly helps towards educational items, and experiences - it's around $4,500 per year which is broken into 4 payments that you receive at the beginning of each term, you also have no requirements to work with centrelink as you are educating your child.
My youngest was completely nonverbal with multiple neurological conditions - at 5.5 years old I was told he was one of the kids that would never talk, and it was time to integrate him into the deaf community to lower the chances of suicide when he reached his teens - that was the level of desperation I needed to try him on the GAPS protocol = which had him start talking within a fortnight, and greatly improved ALL of his other neurological, sensory etc issues, it's hard to believe he is the same child = I just want to recommend looking into that for your son.
Also Shane Knuth is your local MP, his an amazing help in situations like this, he has a heart, and special interest in special needs kids and families - maybe contact him and see if he can help.
Best of luck.
Done thanks and with a strong sister like he has nothing negative is ever going to happen to him ❤
Kids safe as long as you keep runaway from the police
Ges trying to intimidate you into not pursuing it. I'd get a lawyer,
Dogs on heat
It not just a race thing! Our school had it's monsters, male and female! Adults standing over children ! Grr
Do not talk to the cops there not your friend
This is outragous "
Sounds like the teachers are abusing your children are just trying to cover their tracks naturally I use the local police absolute joke
Exactly 💯
I can buy a 8 dollar goon that's it no more c k
@billmopar6461 I don't drink white peoples poison why don't you come my way and find out, don't let fear hold you back kunt.
A few things - first, sorry your little boy, and family are going through this horrible situation.
Have you considered Home Education ? As you would be Home Educating due to special needs you would be entitled to the AIC payment that greatly helps towards educational items, and experiences - it's around $4,500 per year which is broken into 4 payments that you receive at the beginning of each term, you also have no requirements to work with centrelink as you are educating your child.
My youngest was completely nonverbal with multiple neurological conditions - at 5.5 years old I was told he was one of the kids that would never talk, and it was time to integrate him into the deaf community to lower the chances of suicide when he reached his teens - that was the level of desperation I needed to try him on the GAPS protocol = which had him start talking within a fortnight, and greatly improved ALL of his other neurological, sensory etc issues, it's hard to believe he is the same child = I just want to recommend looking into that for your son.
Also Shane Knuth is your local MP, his an amazing help in situations like this, he has a heart, and special interest in special needs kids and families - maybe contact him and see if he can help.
Best of luck.
Also, the best part of home education is that it can be completely individualized for each student, you get to create a curriculum based on your child's interests, so they are more interested, and active in their own education.
We are homeschooling as we speak thanks to everyone's support...
@@lionelsarmardindrumming3309 that's great to hear - are you going through the HEU with your own program? Or doing a distance ed one? They are two very different beasts.
Yes we are
HEU sorry