George V might not have been able to wave a wand to save them but his behaviour is still highly deplorable- selfish and cowardly. Yes he didn't know they would be murdered but still if he was so afraid of revolution in his own country and what might happen to him then he surely knew their position in Russia was precarious!
The Kaiser did say he would allow a Russian ship through the Baltic to go either to Norway where the Tsar's cousins lived or to Great Britain. George V feared that letting them into England. The Kaiser did save the Tsar's nephew George who went to Denmark through Germany.
@@Sebastian-ip2wcPuisque le roi George V avait décidé de ne pas sauver la vie de son cousin le Tsar Nicolas II ni celle de son épouse ni celle de leurs enfants, il fallait bien "sauver la face" devant la terre entière et préparer le terrain pour donner une explication aux générations futures. Voilà pourquoi il a permis que certaines personnes entrent dans son royaume. De la poudre aux yeux. C'est tout. De la bassesse. La Vulgarité dans toute sa splendeur. Comme je comprends le Tsar Nicolas II : " Shame on you Georgi". Le reste, que du bla bla bla pour les couards, les ladres.
In the Bank of England, Tsar Nicholas had deposited all his personal property.. After his death, when the English were asked about the gold of Tsar Nicholas, the answer was that not a single gold ruble was found because he had withdrawn it. Let's not forget that the first government to recognize the new power in Russia was the English one, and the visit of the Tsar's mother, who was Queen Alexandra's sister, was indeed an issue for the Royal family, forcing her to leave for Denmark.
Of COURSE George could have saved the Tsar and his Family. Examining the documents of the time, it is crystal clear that the Tsar was EXPECTING rescue and asylum from George. He kept mentioning it in his letters AND comforted his Family with that Hope. Despite all the revisionist historians absolving George of wicked, heartless and shameful negligence, in my book he IS Guilty as Charged. BTW a "knee-jerk reaction" is often the best litmus test of the Truth!
They didn't help cause the British Royals were jealous of the Tzar's wealth, not the British queen at the time was jealous of Nicholas wife looks. I seen that theory on the episode of the Crown. That queen was jealous of Alexandra's looks. That made me laugh real hard. I have watched so many movies on this subject, and it was briefly mentioned, that the Tzar transferred money to the Bank of England. 10 to 1, they ended up with much of the Romanov wealth. The British people are such British Royal a$$ kissers and that family could care less about their British citizens not to mention they aren't even British but German.
King George V and Tsar Nicholas II were first ousins as their mothers were sisters. Also, George was first cousin with Tsarina Alexandra whose mother Alice was sister to George's father, King Edward VII (both were Queen Victoria/Prince Albert's children).
Nicholas was advised in January 1917 to send his wife and children to the Crimea. He stupidly refused. It was completely impossible to get them out of Russia once revolution occurred. Both St. Petersburg and Moscow were in the hands of revolutionaries. Kerensky sent them to Tobolsk in Siberia far away on 1st August. They were safe there for a time and lived in the comfort of the Governor's Mansion, At the end of April 1918 Nicholas, Alexandra, Maria and some retainers were sent to Ekaterinburg where they were held inside the Ipatiev House, the home of a wealthy merchant. They were joined in late May by the rest of their family. They were all executed on the early morning of 17th July 1918. Don't blame George V. Nicholas was completely responsible for the collapse of the Romanov dynasty along with his crazy wife Alexandra.
As far as I know, George did have the chance to help and he was in conversations with the provisional government to get the Romanovs out of Russia. But then he changed his mind and refused. There are documents that prove all of that.
Vous écrivez des choses erronées. Il vous reste encore beaucoup à apprendre sur les véritables circonstances de cette tragédie qui aurait pu être évitée. Soit on tend la main à celui qui coule, soit on ne le fait pas. Le courage, la force et la noblesse du cœur existent. Le reste n'est que décision.
I heard a story on UA-cam that it was Queen Mary who blocked help for the Tsar. She held a grudge towards the Empress Alexandra. She felt Alexandra and other relatives treated her in a condescending manner because of her lower royal ranking.
English mentality was expected to be free of sentimentality. Of course they didn't feel any anxiety or affection rush towards their Russian relations ( everybody knows that the tsarine an tsar were both first cousins to the king). They were only mildly discussing the practicality of the issue, and wouldn't bother to give a rash answer to people in whose country a bloodbath was taking place and they the main target.
European Royalty were all related to one another over the generations of in breeding, and reinforced once more when Queen Victoria's children married into most of the Royal Houses of Europe. This of course produced many genetic illnesses, madness, weak health and intelligence also was compromised. Their self-indulgent and entitled lifestyle was in stark contrast to the poverty and difficult living conditions of their subjects in the various countries. Much of European history was taken up by frequent wars sometimes started by squabbling royalty, always easily offended and very jealous and competitive with one another. War was seen as a "cleansing" and a "settling of old scores" and even a sport, easily declared with the common man bearing the brunt of it, while the creators of the war (squabbling royalty) watched it unfold from a safe distance. The appetite for war caused by royalty changed dramatically after the First World War and how quickly a local assassination of a royal member escalated domino-like throughout many nations into a world war. The destruction, devastation and huge loss of life across Europe and throughout the world aftermath began the forced removal of many royalty and the stripping of power and privilege to those that remained, as the countries revised their constitutions to allow for elected heads of state and sent their former Royal rulers into exile. Most people today have difficulty understanding what that War was all about and why their countries were involved. The Monarchy in Britain survived but was on shaky ground while they watched the quick removal and the neutering of the other Royal Houses. After consideration of their initial offer of sanctuary, the British Royal Family and government feared having Tsar Nicholas and his family living in asylum in England would be politically difficult for King George, and a possible financial burden to the Royal Family as the years went on. The Tsar and his family were used to living more luxuriously than their British Cousins, and there were so many of them. Also it was feared that the Bolshevik Movement would spread to England further endangering the British Royal Family's rule and power as the presence of the Tsar and his family would attract political extremists to begin agitating in Britain. The movement was spreading outside of Russia and many governments were on alert and suppressing them with force.
Bla bla bla. Un VRAI monarque, COURAGEUX, NOBLE de coeur, FIDÈLE à ses valeurs et idéaux, LOYAL arrive à ses fins, décide et met tout en œuvre pour aider celui qui est à terre surtout s'il s'agit de "son cher cousin", de l'Allié de son pays. Le fait est que le roi George V n'a pas bougé le petit doigt. Le reste, ce sont des miettes de pain jetées cyniquement pour laver les consciences. Encore faut-il en avoir une, de conscience. Mais quand on ne possède pas de coeur..
That’s more of a question for Marie Antoinette’s family the Habsburgs of Austria. They could’ve stormed in if they so wished to force the issue, but they didn’t.
Thank you for explaining how complex their rescue would have been. Unfortunately revolutions breed insanity and that family paid the cost.
George V might not have been able to wave a wand to save them but his behaviour is still highly deplorable- selfish and cowardly. Yes he didn't know they would be murdered but still if he was so afraid of revolution in his own country and what might happen to him then he surely knew their position in Russia was precarious!
The Kaiser did say he would allow a Russian ship through the Baltic to go either to Norway where the Tsar's cousins lived or to Great Britain. George V feared that letting them into England. The Kaiser did save the Tsar's nephew George who went to Denmark through Germany.
The British took several members of the Russian royal family including the Tsar mother.
@@Sebastian-ip2wcPuisque le roi George V avait décidé de ne pas sauver la vie de son cousin le Tsar Nicolas II ni celle de son épouse ni celle de leurs enfants, il fallait bien "sauver la face" devant la terre entière et préparer le terrain pour donner une explication aux générations futures. Voilà pourquoi il a permis que certaines personnes entrent dans son royaume. De la poudre aux yeux. C'est tout.
De la bassesse. La Vulgarité dans toute sa splendeur.
Comme je comprends le Tsar Nicolas II : " Shame on you Georgi".
Le reste, que du bla bla bla pour les couards, les ladres.
What an irony, because it was the Kaiser who let Lenin pass through Germany so he could reach Russia.
@@hermi8918 That was Hindenburg and Ludendorff not the Kaiser.
In the Bank of England, Tsar Nicholas had deposited all his personal property.. After his death, when the English were asked about the gold of Tsar Nicholas, the answer was that not a single gold ruble was found because he had withdrawn it.
Let's not forget that the first government to recognize the new power in Russia was the English one, and the visit of the Tsar's mother, who was Queen Alexandra's sister, was indeed an issue for the Royal family, forcing her to leave for Denmark.
Of COURSE George could have saved the Tsar and his Family. Examining the documents of the time, it is crystal clear that the Tsar was EXPECTING rescue and asylum from George. He kept mentioning it in his letters AND comforted his Family with that Hope. Despite all the revisionist historians absolving George of wicked, heartless and shameful negligence, in my book he IS Guilty as Charged. BTW a "knee-jerk reaction" is often the best litmus test of the Truth!
Thay could have been sent to Denmark the home of his mothers family
Or if not in England, They could even rescue the Romanov and sent them to Canada or Australia
They didn't help because they were cowards and only thought about themselves.
Nothing has changed. They are still like that.
They didn't help cause the British Royals were jealous of the Tzar's wealth, not the British queen at the time was jealous of Nicholas wife looks. I seen that theory on the episode of the Crown. That queen was jealous of Alexandra's looks. That made me laugh real hard. I have watched so many movies on this subject, and it was briefly
mentioned, that the Tzar transferred money to the Bank of England. 10 to 1, they ended up with much of the Romanov wealth. The British people are such British Royal a$$ kissers and that family could care less about their British citizens not to mention they aren't even British but German.
@@marshamarshamarsha4567Excellent commentaire.
Bottomline George said NO.
King George V and Tsar Nicholas II were first ousins as their mothers were sisters. Also, George was first cousin with Tsarina Alexandra whose mother Alice was sister to George's father, King Edward VII (both were Queen Victoria/Prince Albert's children).
He cared more about himself then others
Fear, self interest, loathsome qualities
Nicholas was advised in January 1917 to send his wife and children to the Crimea. He stupidly refused. It was completely impossible to get them out of Russia once revolution occurred. Both St. Petersburg and Moscow were in the hands of revolutionaries. Kerensky sent them to Tobolsk in Siberia far away on 1st August. They were safe there for a time and lived in the comfort of the Governor's Mansion, At the end of April 1918 Nicholas, Alexandra, Maria and some retainers were sent to Ekaterinburg where they were held inside the Ipatiev House, the home of a wealthy merchant. They were joined in late May by the rest of their family. They were all executed on the early morning of 17th July 1918. Don't blame George V. Nicholas was completely responsible for the collapse of the Romanov dynasty along with his crazy wife Alexandra.
Proof genetics does not equal intelligence or leadership skills
As far as I know, George did have the chance to help and he was in conversations with the provisional government to get the Romanovs out of Russia. But then he changed his mind and refused. There are documents that prove all of that.
Vous écrivez des choses erronées. Il vous reste encore beaucoup à apprendre sur les véritables circonstances de cette tragédie qui aurait pu être évitée. Soit on tend la main à celui qui coule, soit on ne le fait pas. Le courage, la force et la noblesse du cœur existent. Le reste n'est que décision.
I heard a story on UA-cam that it was Queen Mary who blocked help for the Tsar. She held a grudge towards the Empress Alexandra. She felt Alexandra and other relatives treated her in a condescending manner because of her lower royal ranking.
They underestimated what pissed off people will do to their leaders, given the chance.
To bad the the girls weren’t sent to another country….
They would just be hoes anyway
English mentality was expected to be free of sentimentality. Of course they didn't feel any anxiety or affection rush towards their Russian relations ( everybody knows that the tsarine an tsar were both first cousins to the king). They were only mildly discussing the practicality of the issue, and wouldn't bother to give a rash answer to people in whose country a bloodbath was taking place and they the main target.
European Royalty were all related to one another over the generations of in breeding, and reinforced once more when Queen Victoria's children married into most of the Royal Houses of Europe. This of course produced many genetic illnesses, madness, weak health and intelligence also was compromised. Their self-indulgent and entitled lifestyle was in stark contrast to the poverty and difficult living conditions of their subjects in the various countries.
Much of European history was taken up by frequent wars sometimes started by squabbling royalty, always easily offended and very jealous and competitive with one another. War was seen as a "cleansing" and a "settling of old scores" and even a sport, easily declared with the common man bearing the brunt of it, while the creators of the war (squabbling royalty) watched it unfold from a safe distance.
The appetite for war caused by royalty changed dramatically after the First World War and how quickly a local assassination of a royal member escalated domino-like throughout many nations into a world war. The destruction, devastation and huge loss of life across Europe and throughout the world aftermath began the forced removal of many royalty and the stripping of power and privilege to those that remained, as the countries revised their constitutions to allow for elected heads of state and sent their former Royal rulers into exile. Most people today have difficulty understanding what that War was all about and why their countries were involved.
The Monarchy in Britain survived but was on shaky ground while they watched the quick removal and the neutering of the other Royal Houses. After consideration of their initial offer of sanctuary, the British Royal Family and government feared having Tsar Nicholas and his family living in asylum in England would be politically difficult for King George, and a possible financial burden to the Royal Family as the years went on. The Tsar and his family were used to living more luxuriously than their British Cousins, and there were so many of them. Also it was feared that the Bolshevik Movement would spread to England further endangering the British Royal Family's rule and power as the presence of the Tsar and his family would attract political extremists to begin agitating in Britain. The movement was spreading outside of Russia and many governments were on alert and suppressing them with force.
Bla bla bla.
Un VRAI monarque, COURAGEUX, NOBLE de coeur, FIDÈLE à ses valeurs et idéaux, LOYAL arrive à ses fins, décide et met tout en œuvre pour aider celui qui est à terre surtout s'il s'agit de "son cher cousin", de l'Allié de son pays.
Le fait est que le roi George V n'a pas bougé le petit doigt. Le reste, ce sont des miettes de pain jetées cyniquement pour laver les consciences. Encore faut-il en avoir une, de conscience.
Mais quand on ne possède pas de coeur..
Shameful. George was very attentive to Grand Duchess Xenia, which ticked off q Mary,. hopefully he was filled with guilt.
From what I remember history Briton dint give political sanctuary to the last royal (cousins ) in Russia
maybe... just maybe.... if the GAP between the Monarch and the People were not as ABYSMAL they would have not been killed?
The Russian people did not kill them, it was the Khazarian Jewish communists.
???...
Like saying why didnt George 3
Save the french royals in 1789!
That’s more of a question for Marie Antoinette’s family the Habsburgs of Austria. They could’ve stormed in if they so wished to force the issue, but they didn’t.