I got typed ISTP

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  • @EH_888
    @EH_888 4 місяці тому

    Completely understand where you’re coming from as I once dated an istp. Answering questions in a summary-based manner seems not sufficient for some of them I suppose. Lol😂

  • @diannarowlands3784
    @diannarowlands3784 7 місяців тому +1

    I perceive you as a INTJ, as a highly developed TE user, your introverted intuition run in the background. I put your podcast on pauses when you are discussing the waste of time and energy in introverted thinking. That thinking pattern is so totally TE. TE always looks for the most efficient and productive use of time and resources. Your nurturing development is a good source of how you use your cognitive functions. I use NI and Fi as my natural flow state, but when it comes to getting things done TE comes to the forefront. Remember you a uniquely and wonderfully formed, so trust your IN in knowing yourself.

    • @GhostofJung
      @GhostofJung  7 місяців тому

      This is so perceptive and actually warms my heart. Thank you!

  • @SS-Typology
    @SS-Typology 7 місяців тому +2

    I need to react to this lol

  • @TarzanHedgepeth
    @TarzanHedgepeth 5 місяців тому

    Did you try Harry from CPT? You would feel more satisfied I think.

  • @Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes
    @Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes 7 місяців тому

    From my own Ni & pattern recognition, I think you are INTJ e5 and always have been - Only you can know what type fit best to you.
    The person has not a good understanding of Ni (I hope it was a free session)
    Similar as you I still have a little difficulty to understand Ti, I love Te.
    Strong will, strong mind, books & physical exercice... like all my INTJ friends & myself.
    An INTJ friend, when he talked to me about leaders : "Napoleon: ENTJ 8w7 835"
    Melissa once told me : Ni see the real reality.
    Hey, I didn't see your ISTP smile 😆🤣
    I agree our perception of reality is distorted by our conditioning a probably also by our fears, emotions, functions.
    I think certains INTJ we may be emotionally attached to the "INTJ" because we finally feel validated, existed - we finally have found the why we feel so different from others, especially the e5.
    Thank you for the live & reference, what book you recommend from David Icke ? I am fascinated in what you are say about the reality as a dream.
    Have a great day/evening.

  • @jeffshaw674
    @jeffshaw674 7 місяців тому +3

    No merit should be given to Eric and TWFP. He frequently types people wrong. True typing sessions are hard to do. It takes a lot of information to type someone and actually can be compiled in a genuine conversation where bias and stereotype are ignored. I see Te tool in you for sure.

    • @phodilus2141
      @phodilus2141 4 місяці тому

      i was typed infj/estp by him lol. he couldn't choose. i'm an intj

  • @techtidbits7594
    @techtidbits7594 7 місяців тому

    I knew an extremely intelligent guy who thought he was an INTJ for the longest time and then discovered he was actually an ISTJ. There are definitely some really brilliant ISTJ people out there.

    • @GhostofJung
      @GhostofJung  7 місяців тому +1

      There are, usually in a different way

  • @breehanson3415
    @breehanson3415 7 місяців тому +1

    I perceive you an INTJ and have always insisted on self-typing as the starting point. Other people can project onto you. Also, their test may have been biased toward a ti answer. I would only trust someone's typing of me with a 360 degree survey of friends, family, and objective data on my behavior over time.

    • @GhostofJung
      @GhostofJung  7 місяців тому

      Are you 100% sure you are entp??

  • @WorldSocionics
    @WorldSocionics 7 місяців тому

    Have you tried an assessment in Socionics?

    • @GhostofJung
      @GhostofJung  7 місяців тому

      Never have!

    • @WorldSocionics
      @WorldSocionics 7 місяців тому

      might give you fresh perspective, a number of my clients have said that it has helped to make sense of the discrepancies they have encountered when typed by different people@@GhostofJung

  • @webisayoub237
    @webisayoub237 7 місяців тому

    I think that you’re overthinking it. I’m an Esfj, and I had mistyped by a test to say Isfj. Thought so for like two years. Basically, my experience is to detach yourself from stating functions like ti or te, and watch yourself objectively. What caught me was i would always ask questions before acting, even in the most obvious circumstances. Then one of Cs joseph’s words caught me and I was like wait a minute, I’m not an Isfj. My conclusion, you’re probably not an istp. You gesticulate like an InTj, the side glances instead of staring straight to the camera, touching your forehead as you speak. My esfj catches those small things. My experience memory makes me link you to my intj best friend. Nothing conclusive, just my observation.
    Ps: Napoleon cannot have been extroverted. I think that he was an intj, if I’m to follow your train

  • @PsychologyoftheBrain
    @PsychologyoftheBrain 7 місяців тому

    Things you need to understand before my assessment
    -extroversion by Oxford English Dictionary and the Big Five is different from Personality Theory. Having high extroversion does not mean being an extrovert, does not mean having having extroverted x cognitive function. You can be an introvert with two extroverted top functions.
    -there are 32 personality types, not 16
    Conform with on/off 9 months of research into MBTI, as a Ne, Ti, ENTP, i believe you are a (double) EESTJ, with (mixed) MENTJ being a close second. This is based on the power game theory, currently in the alpha stage of development. If it was up to me, i would say you are 90% likely to being a Te dom. Reducing factors make it only 80%. Nonetheless, i strongly recommend entertaining the possibility of being a Te dom. Reasons being:
    -You literally accidentally saying you have Te saviour.
    -Truly nothing in this video opposes Te dom, while some things in this video do seem to oppose INTJ.
    -You when receiving the ISTP diagnosis having more problems with Te second (subconscious) over Te first, seemingly disregarding the fact that INTJ’s only have Te third, notwithstanding having no problems whatsoever with Ni fifth over Ni first, conform Dario Nardi’s analysis of the subconscious.
    -Showing Fi signs, but lack of any real discussion of Fi
    -Narrative reasons (it fits everyone's idea broadly speaking)
    -Other notes in appendix.
    -Additional intellectual property rights redacted section.
    If you are interested we can have a discussion about my rationale and what you think. Would be fun i guess. These are the results at closing markets
    50% Te, (Ti), Se, (Si), Ni, (Ne), Fi, (Fe): +-10%
    30% Te, (Ti), Ni, (Ne), Se, (Si), Fi, (Fe): +-6%
    10% Se, (Si), Te, (Ti), Fi, (Fe), Ni, (Ne): +-3%
    5% Ni, (Ne), Te, (Ti), Fi, (Fe), Se, (Si): +-2%
    2% Te, (Ti), Si, (Se), Ne, (Ni), Fi, (Fe): +-1%
    1% Ti, (Te), Se, (Si), Ni, (Ne), Fe, (Fi): +-1%
    These numbers are indicational numbers and are for communication purposes only. They are not scientific or based on anything but observation and expectation.
    Noteworthy observations:
    You are only 1% likely to be an ISTP.
    INTJ is not doing much better with at most 7%
    You are closer in behaviour to being an ISTP than INTJ
    Ti is over 98% likely to be subconscious, likely in the second position.

    • @PsychologyoftheBrain
      @PsychologyoftheBrain 7 місяців тому

      *From last night, before i literally saw that at the 10 minute mark you say you have Te saviour, which is a big tell IMO.*
      9:44 That sounds ni over se. Or at least not shitty ni. bad te and ni cannot connect the dots.
      10:44 again not really ti. Ti would just naturally oppose something if it knows something. It is like okay we agree to disagree. You cannot easily with the Ti mad. Either it remains quiet, or he says "your wrong", with the straightest face. Ti is not emotional. It is very factual and detached, almost mechanical. It is talking to a computer. It will not be emotional when your wrong. It will just very unemotionally tell you you are wrong, and with the se second it will probably not be able to tell you why. Which unequivically gets met by a mad fi users because it touches their ti insecurity. To explain myself, your go to option when you don't know is objectivity. You try to get community consensus on what you are. Ti doesn't give a shit about the community. It just cares about the truth. It recognizes consensus isn't always right. Only afterwards, after engaging with te, you engage with ti. Ti is a subset of Te here
      17:55 that sounds very ENTJ honestly. That is an incredible quote on how i see ENTJ. This does support INTJ as well, in fact i still think your an INTJ because of that, but as ENTP, i'm very selective in what i hear. Some things just hit. That's an ENTJ quote if i ever heard one. But you don't look ENTJ. You don't feel ENTJ. Btw that quote just completely got rid of Ti as ever a possibility. just sayin.
      Btw, i see entj's as prospecting intellectual property thieves. Taking away my ideas, and making them reality without me. grumble grumble grumble.
      18:00 no that's si ti. My sister, esfp is useless at diy. She has se first. But yeah ti si is point for improvement. Esfp's are not known for diy. More like ydi. "You do it"
      for a follow-up video, can you compare intj and entj. I think it could be entj. nothing in this video makes me say it could not be an entj, and they are close enough to miss, especially if you are on the edge. As someone close to an intp, as an entp, it is the most likely mistake one can make. Noting, Te is an extroverting, but not extroverted function. I am doing on and off investigation and i've found some interesting stuff, but you should not consider Te as extrovert, more as collectivisation or condensing or summarising. Investigate the possibility of an introverted ENTJ (introvert and extrovert meaning is bs but whatever). as an introverted ENTP, i can imagine reading to be a substitute for engagement. For me for example, youtube substitutes for ne engagement. I just need ideas, and those ideas you can get from reading, listening, or engaging with other people. nothing in the entp makes him require engagement (okay Fe, but look, its not that good). With everything you say, you sound pretty introverted ENTJ. yeah i am really warm on the idea of ENTJ. i think u should just watch the video again, and now with the entj in front of you. Not what everybody says. it is completely hidden the availability of introverted ENTJ's. I unfortunately cannot tell you why it works, but i do think this is a serious contender for an introverted ENTJ. I didn't even know it was possible, but you seem like it. I do know my friend is an ambiverted ENTJ, so why isn't a introverted entj possible.
      I dislike then the conversation on the ENTJ. U seem to be aware of the possibility that ENTJ's could be big brains, which makes it possible that you've already considered it. At least subconsciously. That ENTJ's can just be intellectual powerhouses. then u say you see reality better than anybody else a strength, that puts me back on board the ENTJ train. Simply put, i don't think INTJ's have that strength necessarily. Now ISTP's have that strength too
      28:58 definitely a double perceiver.
      Right near the end it did begin to look more ISTP i have to admit. That talk about seeing reality, and especially how you casually roasted the INTJ didn't put your case up well. Seems to be very vague to me all in all, but i can't put a finger down. I don't think it is INTJ however, as an observer of INTJ's. Ni is too bad in your function stack, or you have not shared even a tenth of what Ni means to you. ISTP is a possibility, but i really would like you to entertain ENTJ as well. You seem to be more on board with ENTJ. otherwise the talk about you being afraid to not fit in and have clout is my biggest point of uncertainty. I recognise this as low F, but i don't know which one. While on the surface that seems to indicate ISTP, you seem more on the page of ENTJ.
      All in all, based on this video, i think your an ENTJ. one that has an appearance of ISTP for lack of better understanding in the MBTI community. I am low-key interested why you are afraid of being not able to fit in. To come to this assessment, i have to reject this critical detail. I think taken everything you say into consideration makes me think ENTJ.
      To be precise, i think you are Te, Se, Ni, Fi. Double extrovert top. This sounds ridiculous, maybe because it is, but it shows how wrong also common perception of extroversion really is. Alternatively Te, Ni, Se, Fi. the two in the middle don't matter that much in order. Critically nothing in Se is extrovert, and nothing in Te is extrovert. it is annoying how if you start to work with a model and change it just a bit, it starts to behave very awkwardly in niche scenarios. But you can extrovert in books. My sister, esfp loves reading books. It is sensory engagement to her. Don't ask me why. She is also the biggest extrovert i know, but she loves nothing more than reading books, okay and partying. It is just that she is perceived an extrovert because she never reads in company with other people. That is Se Fi Te as well. Now this proposes the following problem. Nothing says that you cannot be an introvert, with two extroverted top functions. If playtime is reading, it is completely valid. So yeah, i think you are Te Se, which is non standard MBTI and requires really in depth understanding about the prospect of extroversion being dissimilar to extrovert. This a pain the arse for you, because people will say "BuT yOu ArE nOt A eXtRoVeRt" that makes life easier for you in a way because you can conceivably pass as INTJ, ENTJ and ISTP. Your functions are closest to ENTJ, but this doesn't get rid of the donkey brain argument. ISTP is your next closest, but the problem is that Ti is factually incorrect. To make an introvert with your function stack, INTJ is the closest. That is what i think. So you can chose. All 3 work. But know that people will say you look more ISTP because indeed that's closer to Te Se, and if you say ENTJ they call u ridiculous. dw i am fixing personality theory. will take another 3 years tho so for now this is it.

  • @hopebe303
    @hopebe303 7 місяців тому +1

    I think you got hit with the typer's personal bias. And it sounds like they gave you the worst definition of Ni that exists--very reductive. Plus, Ni would be a bit anxious about a party situation and how to engage with others because of the Fe blindspot (if you favor the 8 function model). And the Ni would be playing through all of the possible logistics without knowing or committing to a fixed reality for the future until more facts are known. But that could be my softer feminine Ni perspective. I see you as an INTJ, but that means very little because I don't have the credentials to say so :)

    • @GhostofJung
      @GhostofJung  7 місяців тому +1

      LMAO credentials! That matters 🙄. I like the 8 function model and the nervousness about Fe makes perfect sense

  • @stu6097
    @stu6097 7 місяців тому

    I think your shadow Ti was being triggered as INTJ and your response of being critical of his understanding of typing and what he believes to be your type also seems consistent with "Ti Critical Parent"

    • @GhostofJung
      @GhostofJung  7 місяців тому +1

      Exactly, it seems so obvious I can't imagine why it was missed

  • @lostbuthopefull8788
    @lostbuthopefull8788 7 місяців тому

    Haven't watch it and probably won't to be honest, but you are an INTJ definitly. Systematic type (instead of interesed-based like ISTP). You just have a more developed ENTP shadow than ESFP subcouncious hence the Ti, but still definitly use primarly Te, just with lot of Ti's support. Some of these people who type "proffessionally" really are doing more harm than good and should just be ignored.

    • @PsychologyoftheBrain
      @PsychologyoftheBrain 7 місяців тому

      Only problem with this argument, being that you say he has developed ENTP. He has 0 entp. I am sorry, but as an ENTP myself, i don't know what i have to say. A for effort.

    • @lostbuthopefull8788
      @lostbuthopefull8788 7 місяців тому

      @@PsychologyoftheBrain Entp type isn't about being an insensitive funny troll at its core, you know
      For INTJ to have more developed ENTP side it usually means they care more about expanding their horizons and trying alternative approaches of thinking (Ne) to feed their Ni (which can make them less focused and lacking clear idea for their future, because they find out many options suit them) instead of creating visualizations that they'll then realize through Se. His Ni is more metaphysical and focused on perspectives than aesthetical, essentional, invested in reality and how these real things are perceived and what they mean for him. It means that instead of trying to find out what he values, what is generally good and bad, what is generally valuable, who he want to be, how he wants to feel and perceived (Fi), he tries more to be a logical, impersonal thinker and is generally very critical of he's abbility to get down to what is really true, so he often takes a step back from good vs bad judgements and thinks and listens to others more, often accurately critisicing them (Ti), but still in the end struggling to think fully logically, internally for himself, without reference points (still low Ti).
      Here you have an example of intj with a more developed esfp side, that still has a fairly similar personality to ghost of Jung so you could see the difference more clearly youtube.com/@BlissFoster?si=1WXkt7w-9MTXH_xc
      A for trying to be funny, E for actually understanding typology

    • @PsychologyoftheBrain
      @PsychologyoftheBrain 7 місяців тому

      @@lostbuthopefull8788 no u tell me. Wow. Thanks on this lecture on myself

    • @lostbuthopefull8788
      @lostbuthopefull8788 7 місяців тому

      @@PsychologyoftheBrain well i just described in what ways he's more intune with entp side. Even the fact that he's entertaining the thought of being an ISTP after such a long time of identifying with INTJ shows that for him his Ti critic from ENTP shadow overrides Fi child

    • @PsychologyoftheBrain
      @PsychologyoftheBrain 7 місяців тому

      @@lostbuthopefull8788 i get what you are saying, but an entp has the stereotype as debater for a reason. It does reconsider, but it reconsiders his own thoughts. it will seek answers from himself for himself, with community a side product. It will then explain his findings, just like an intp. It is as much debating as it is lecturing and discussing. In Ti Si, It is like these are the facts, take it or leave it. In Ne Fe mode, it is just literally brainstorming. Firing up questions, to the extent where the ENTP user himself comes up with 10 different solutions to any given problem, and another 10 on every solutions and so forth. He would not ask questions, he would answer questions (by asking questions subconsciously). That is the weird part about the ENTP and INTP. Acquiring knowledge happens subconsciously. It requires full immersion. And then he doesn't realise it, he learns, and from there he comes into his own, and makes up ideas on a subject, from a subjective point of view.

  • @techtidbits7594
    @techtidbits7594 7 місяців тому

    In watching your videos I always thought you were an ISTJ or something. You seem like a sensor in your presentation style. But I don't know you, so I could be wrong in my assessment. ISTJs have strong Te. Also your communication style and organized background in videos seem ISTJ. I think INTJs are pretty messy in general because they have Si blind. Unless it's a project they really care about, then they can be highly organized and orderly. INTJ aesthetics are not as good as yours.

    • @ddyracer7084
      @ddyracer7084 7 місяців тому

      Nope. INTj’s can be detailed with organizing just like any type. That is more enneagram thing.