If you think about it, Andy was the mid-range sound scape of the band (with the exception of the vocals of course) i.e the bass is the bass, the cymbals and hi-hats and high guitar notes etc are the treble sounds. Andy filled in the rest.
He certainly seems to be underappreciated by Sting. Andy’s suing Sting over “Every Breath You Take.” since he saved it with that arpeggio - which is the heartbeat of the track.
Interestingly, it comprises three parts: Two double tracked main ones and a harmony track that sounds wacky on It's own but makes the sound shimmer on the recording. Live just use a flanger and/or Chorus.
Supposedly Sting wrote the melody. And had said it was influenced by BOC’s Don’t Fest The Reaper. Seems very similar but in the Police’s hand and a different context - It works brilliantly.
Andy’s so intelligent. That’s one of the reasons why the police were one the greatest bands. They were unique, smart, individual, jazz rock musicians that everyone loved.
Andy Summers: Greatest of the greats and we're so lucky to still have him around. Just such a shame that a certain bass player no longer feels the need to engage in the creative process based on having something to fight against which ignites the spark which we haven't heard since 1982.
@Halucin8 I think (they also confirmed it) that the reason they were that insanely good was because of the wars they fought in the studio. They never would have lasted or their music would have suffered gravely.
They should have brought in Colin Hay who has a great voice albeit a lower register than sting but would have sounded great with Copeland and Sumner imagine doing each others songs like'who can it be now' and 'Overkill'
Sting wants to be the boss and not collaborate with equal partners. I think if you have a complete vision it is difficult to share the song with others and accept their ideas. This breaks up many bands when the members grow to the point of being more self absorbed in their art and less dependant on the others input. Sting himself said that once you get used to what the others can do, you end up basically writing their parts in your head already and then arguing about them afterwards.
The Police are a wonderful band. Andy is also one of the most versitile guitarist playing these days. His solo albums and his work with Robert Fripp(back in the 80's), are outstanding. Thanks for posting.
Ahhhh yes, that is sheer Summers magic. Such an astounding expanse of sonic bliss to open the tune. Nice to hear his nice fingerpicking on "Bring on the Night" as well.
Andy Summers found the guitar style that renewed the mainstream of rock. His trademark sound was replicated worlwide and helped The Police to be a musical phenomena. 🎸 Happy birthday Andy, regards from Peru, the land of the Incas.
James Simpson Surely you’re joking. Where’d you pull that from? Even if that was the case, to unplug the instrument of the guy you’re interviewing while he’s in the middle of playing is disrespectful.
@@Nicole-xp2ng At 6:47 Andy jokingly swings his guitar at Jools. That shows that the two of them were clearly on a certain level of understanding where one of them could joke around and pull a small prank without coming off as disrespectful to the other. Such as Jools unplugging Andy
What a totally incredible sound - whether he's using the Telecaster through effects or the Roland synth, Andy creates pure mood, atmosphere and harmonic magic!
Andy’s musical roots are so deep. He is aware of and has played all genres of music . Moreover, he’s constantly learning and trying to get even better. He’s just an incredible artist.
Incredible bit of footage! Andy lived in Co. Cork Ireland at the time and I remember in '82 I saw him walking down the street with a painting under his arm that he must have just bought in an art gallery! I remember the black and red striped jumper and Converse runners! Can't believe Jools pulled the guitar lead out, Andy could have hit him with it! Lucky boy!
At 6:47 Andy swings his guitar towards Jools jokingly. Not one person comments on that negatively. But everyone’s hung up on Jules unplugging Andy’s guitar while making a James Brown joke. They are both clearly joking around occasionally.
Andy Summers Probably the most un copyable Guitarist ever , The Guitar Playing on-Bring on the Night is Wonderful, Such a Great Player and he could literally play any style, He was from an era we’re you really had to be able to do IT … and Man he could do IT .. A True One of a Kind …🌞⭐️🌞⭐️🌞⭐️🌞⭐️❤️
Andy looking around at everyone after Jools pulls his guitar lead out (@9:16)...he's like "Can you believe it--cheeky bastard!"....priceless! I remember seeing this Police special on MTV when it first aired--my friend and I were laughing incredulously along with Andy!
The synthesized guitar is what really grabbed my attention in the 80s. My mom used to play guitar and now I play, so I like playing police songs through my toneport gear box.
Their sound really came into their own when Andy joined, and especially after Henry left. A unique player that just fit perfectly with Stewart and Sting.
That little blues jam in the middle is great.That"in the room" sound at that studio is very nice.I think some hurricane shut that studio down...along with the sinking ship of the corporate music industry's album budget cuts... really put the nail in the coffin.Ahh the good ol days of recording real music.RIP
CmathTV Yes sadly AIR Studios Monserratt was hit by a hurricane 1989 & the volcano where the studios sit became active further damaging the studios as well as the island. The Rolling Stones were the last to use before the hurricane for the Steel Wheels sessions.
Very intellectually inclined musician. Andy is one of my favorites! Amazing player, and one of my guitar influences for his knack of exploring original sounds and textures. I remember how he once permeated many guitar magazine covers back in the 80s after The Police took off...he became a very popular guitarist! Also, when I first heard the Secret Journey track, I was like, "what's that sound??", then I, like most people who heard it, wrote it off as a keyboard riff. I didn't know it was a Roland guitar synth!
Andy Summers is up there with Peter Green, Steve Hackett and yes....even HM Rory Gallagher. An absolute top drawer musician. To tune in synthesised fifths is a talent in itself Love the riff in Bring On The Night
Just finished his autobiography…One Train Later. It is so insightful and beautifully written while allowing us a front seat at observing his keen mind behind the legendary music he has brilliantly created.
He used an Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress flanger pedal, set for a slow rate and low regeneration ("colour"). That gets that juicy syrupy swirly sound. The compressor pedal is what makes the sound 'bigger', more present. He explains it in this video.
I know, Andy's sound is incredible! I think this sound can be achieved by using an Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress pedal. It's a flanger btw, but the unique thing about the mistress is that you can make it sound like a chorus. For Andy's sound in this video, you need to have a fair bit of color, quite a lot of depth, and a slow rate setting.
One of the most brilliant bands of the late 70’s early 80’s. I saw their Ghost In The Machine Tour, as well as Synchronicity Tour. What a fun band to watch.
It's amazing that he was already almost 40 here - growing up as a massive Police fan I always thought he was around the same age as the two other guys.
Wow. That blue synth box is how they got the sound on Secret Journey, and later O My God. I always thought that was done on keyboards, but those spacey chords I now credit to Andy. Groundbreaking pop music. Beatles Schmeatles.
To be fair, the Beatles did use synths on Abbey Road. before most other groups. And their use of the sitar and Mellotron was groundbreaking stuff. Somehow, I manage to love the Beatles, the Police, the Clash and, uh, Tribe Called Quest without worrying about who was best.
Has anyone heard/read the story (from Andy's book) about how he leaned the Telecaster next to a water boiler at Boston Garden (1982) - and it de-magnetized the guitar's pickup?
@Jim Rafferty - Yes, I've read the book. Great read! After that incident, he had to replace the pick-up and the guitar had never sounded quite the same again since then.
Si escuchas a ciegas un trozo de música que toca Andy Summers, podrías reconocer que es él, eso sí es crear un sonido propio🎸sin ni siquiera tocar a mil por hora y ciento de notas musicales a la vez.
Very interesting video, can’t believe how young Jools Holland looks, I only knew it was him once he started talking. Two great musicians and yes Andy Summers is very underrated indeed, I doubt he’s bothered too much about that though, he knows how good he is I would imagine.
Ciao Andy, from Rome. MI diedero una TDK, con voi, sono del 1968. Alla tua insaputa sei stato Maestro "Gratis" per chi come me non era figlio di papà. Ma tu mi hai fatto conoscere subito le Triadi, oltre il resto. Questo mi ha permesso di decifrare al volo ciò che ascoltavo. Ti devo molto. Ti voglio tanto bene.
@@mightyV444 No, one does not swap David Gilmour for Alex Lifeson. One swaps the Edge (and all his delay pedals) for Alex Lifeson. The Edge isn't qualified to carry Alex's lunch.
Despite all the jocular action between Andy and Jools, you can really see accumulated growing angst and sighing fatigue growing in Andy, even doing an interview that any guitar player(especially an underappreciated one), should enjoy. Per Stewart's/others Police biopics, the "GITM" sessions were basically the moment the guys knew that despite enormous success, they were imminently heading for breakup. Luckily per A&M's demands and one last headlining stadium tour cash grab, we got "Synchronicity" as a swan song. It's too bad of them but like other innovative, undefinable late 70's/early 80's bands like Japan, all great things sometimes must come to an end.
@SteveBZ69 in peace, couldnt disagree more steve, you clearly know your onions but as a newbie to the guitar I feel that Jools is basically approaching this from a "pedals for dummies" perspective and gets Andy to unpack his genius for us mere mortals to appreciate. I have always loved the police and seeing this clip makes you realise that it was Andy who was the real engine at work in the band.
The most under appreciated member of the band. Andy was brilliant.
Maybe - but certainly not by me!
Is
To hear Andy on the reunion tour...
Outshines the rest
If you think about it, Andy was the mid-range sound scape of the band (with the exception of the vocals of course) i.e the bass is the bass, the cymbals and hi-hats and high guitar notes etc are the treble sounds. Andy filled in the rest.
He certainly seems to be underappreciated by Sting. Andy’s suing Sting over “Every Breath You Take.” since he saved it with that arpeggio - which is the heartbeat of the track.
The opening to "Message In A Bottle" has to be one of the most instantly recognizable melodies in history.
Interestingly, it comprises three parts: Two double tracked main ones and a harmony track that sounds wacky on It's own but makes the sound shimmer on the recording. Live just use a flanger and/or Chorus.
Supposedly Sting wrote the melody. And had said it was influenced by BOC’s Don’t Fest The Reaper.
Seems very similar but in the Police’s hand and a different context - It works brilliantly.
similar but yet completely diffrent chord progression@@jeffball6656
@@jeffball6656 True, but Andy added so many very important "little things", like that second harmony on top of the main riff.
Andy’s so intelligent. That’s one of the reasons why the police were one the greatest bands. They were unique, smart, individual, jazz rock musicians that everyone loved.
His autobiography is amazing.
Andy Summers, Alex Lifeson and The Edge were my fave "outside the box" Players. THANKS!
the most underrated!
and the best haha
Good call!!!
And he has so many _boxes_ to be outside _of_ .
Also Ed O Brien
Do you ever press the wrong button? Usually. LMAO. I love this guy. Such a sense of humor.
There probably isn't any style that Summers couldn't break into, he is such a pro.
Andy Summers: Greatest of the greats and we're so lucky to still have him around. Just such a shame that a certain bass player no longer feels the need to engage in the creative process based on having something to fight against which ignites the spark which we haven't heard since 1982.
@Halucin8 I think (they also confirmed it) that the reason they were that insanely good was because of the wars they fought in the studio. They never would have lasted or their music would have suffered gravely.
They should have brought in Colin Hay who has a great voice albeit a lower register than sting but would have sounded great with Copeland and Sumner imagine doing each others songs like'who can it be now' and 'Overkill'
Sting wants to be the boss and not collaborate with equal partners. I think if you have a complete vision it is difficult to share the song with others and accept their ideas. This breaks up many bands when the members grow to the point of being more self absorbed in their art and less dependant on the others input. Sting himself said that once you get used to what the others can do, you end up basically writing their parts in your head already and then arguing about them afterwards.
Hes not that good my friend, stop kissing his ass, hes a bit boring.
He never had a number 1 hit as a solo artist. He was better off when he had Stewart and Andy to carry him.
Andy's solo on Driven to Tears still gives me chills...truly a legend!
Truly a virtuoso player!!! One of my all time favorites.
The Police are a wonderful band. Andy is also one of the most versitile guitarist playing these days. His solo albums and his work with Robert Fripp(back in the 80's), are outstanding. Thanks for posting.
This man was the treble to Sting's bass, and Stewart was just a force to be reckoned with.
No, he was the mid-range to Stings bass, Stewarts hi-hat and cymbals were the real treble to this :)
Stewart is a top 10 drummer of all time IMHO
That could never play on tempo. Always too fast yes?
At 6:47 Andy plays the opening riff for "Secret Journey", which is probably my favorite Police tune!
It's one of the greatest sounds by Andy on all if their albums.
Ahhhh yes, that is sheer Summers magic. Such an astounding expanse of sonic bliss to open the tune. Nice to hear his nice fingerpicking on "Bring on the Night" as well.
I have always loved Andy summers guitar playing,
Andy Summers found the guitar style that renewed the mainstream of rock. His trademark sound was replicated worlwide and helped The Police to be a musical phenomena. 🎸 Happy birthday Andy, regards from Peru, the land of the Incas.
One does not simply...unplug Andy Summers's guitar.
Was waiting for the backhand myself.
DottyLomax
Jools Holland has always been an absolute punt:-)
I wouldn’t blame Andy if he punched him in the throat.
James Simpson Surely you’re joking. Where’d you pull that from? Even if that was the case, to unplug the instrument of the guy you’re interviewing while he’s in the middle of playing is disrespectful.
@@Nicole-xp2ng At 6:47 Andy jokingly swings his guitar at Jools. That shows that the two of them were clearly on a certain level of understanding where one of them could joke around and pull a small prank without coming off as disrespectful to the other. Such as Jools unplugging Andy
What a totally incredible sound - whether he's using the Telecaster through effects or the Roland synth, Andy creates pure mood, atmosphere and harmonic magic!
Andy’s musical roots are so deep. He is aware of and has played all genres of music . Moreover, he’s constantly learning and trying to get even better. He’s just an incredible artist.
Incredible bit of footage! Andy lived in Co. Cork Ireland at the time and I remember in '82 I saw him walking down the street with a painting under his arm that he must have just bought in an art gallery! I remember the black and red striped jumper and Converse runners! Can't believe Jools pulled the guitar lead out, Andy could have hit him with it! Lucky boy!
True
Andy was 39 years old in 1981.
***** 38 mostly. His bday is December 31st.
Damn so he was 40 by 1982 or 83
@@james6234 crazy to think how young he was
@@juliosanchez95 Yeah how time flies. He's like 76 or 77 somewhere around there.
@@crissrudd4554 shit that's today
At 6:47 Andy swings his guitar towards Jools jokingly. Not one person comments on that negatively. But everyone’s hung up on Jules unplugging Andy’s guitar while making a James Brown joke. They are both clearly joking around occasionally.
@Mike Ratherson - That's how I perceive them also, more like they're actually pals.
If you are English you will see there was absolutely nothing negative. The guitar swing was him messing around as he was showing off the effects pedal
Andy Summers Probably the most un copyable Guitarist ever , The Guitar Playing on-Bring on the Night is Wonderful, Such a Great Player and he could literally play any style, He was from an era we’re you really had to be able to do IT … and Man he could do IT .. A True One of a Kind …🌞⭐️🌞⭐️🌞⭐️🌞⭐️❤️
Senza i suoni di Andy Summers non sarebbero mai diventati The Police. Ma nessuno lo ammetterà mai.
Andy was/is an amazing guitarist. Great sense of melody and adventure on the guitar.
Andy looking around at everyone after Jools pulls his guitar lead out (@9:16)...he's like "Can you believe it--cheeky bastard!"....priceless! I remember seeing this Police special on MTV when it first aired--my friend and I were laughing incredulously along with Andy!
i thought that was incredibly rude and disrespectful.
@@bepitan Oh, it totally was! To the point of "Did he really just do that?"
The synthesized guitar is what really grabbed my attention in the 80s. My mom used to play guitar and now I play, so I like playing police songs through my toneport gear box.
Your mom played guitar? What a cool mom
@robertgladstein all the women in her family played guitar. Quite a band is what i remember as a child.
Andy: "I like John Coltrane and Ornette Coleman."
Interviewer: "How about jazz? Do you like jazz?"
😆😆😆
BTW, THE interviewer, Jools Holland, was and is very aware who John Coltrane and Ornette Coleman were.
@@jameslewis8227 Jools is the man, incredible pianist
@@markstone2153 He sure is.
That was deapan humour, something the British excel at. Jools Holland is a consummate musician and was well aware of those dudes.
Their sound really came into their own when Andy joined, and especially after Henry left. A unique player that just fit perfectly with Stewart and Sting.
Never, ever, EVER pull Andy Summer's Guitar Cable From His Guitar!!!
That little blues jam in the middle is great.That"in the room" sound at that studio is very nice.I think some hurricane shut that studio down...along with the sinking ship of the corporate music industry's album budget cuts... really put the nail in the coffin.Ahh the good ol days of recording real music.RIP
CmathTV Yes sadly AIR Studios Monserratt was hit by a hurricane 1989 & the volcano where the studios sit became active further damaging the studios as well as the island. The Rolling Stones were the last to use before the hurricane for the Steel Wheels sessions.
That Roland guitar synth sound was on the solo of Don't Stand So Close To Me!
Very intellectually inclined musician. Andy is one of my favorites! Amazing player, and one of my guitar influences for his knack of exploring original sounds and textures. I remember how he once permeated many guitar magazine covers back in the 80s after The Police took off...he became a very popular guitarist! Also, when I first heard the Secret Journey track, I was like, "what's that sound??", then I, like most people who heard it, wrote it off as a keyboard riff. I didn't know it was a Roland guitar synth!
Andy Summers is up there with Peter Green, Steve Hackett and yes....even HM Rory Gallagher.
An absolute top drawer musician. To tune in synthesised fifths is a talent in itself
Love the riff in Bring On The Night
Two brilliant legends!
Just finished his autobiography…One Train Later. It is so insightful and beautifully written while allowing us a front seat at observing his keen mind behind the legendary music he has brilliantly created.
He used an Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress flanger pedal, set for a slow rate and low regeneration ("colour"). That gets that juicy syrupy swirly sound.
The compressor pedal is what makes the sound 'bigger', more present. He explains it in this video.
7:40 great sounding blues. I think they're playing a bit of Elmore James's "Dust My Broom"
Thanks Andy for the good music
Still remember watching this in 1981. 🙏
most underrated guitarist ever.
I love this video soooooooo much.
Thank you for sharing us.
Que relíquia maravilhosa ❤
This is absolute Gold. Jules and Andy
Andy Summers= Master of Chorus
The Edge= Master of Delay.
How does Andy get his choruses so rich and noticable??? tahnks, Matt.
I know, Andy's sound is incredible! I think this sound can be achieved by using an Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress pedal. It's a flanger btw, but the unique thing about the mistress is that you can make it sound like a chorus. For Andy's sound in this video, you need to have a fair bit of color, quite a lot of depth, and a slow rate setting.
Use compression also
This was among the first videos I ever watched on UA-cam.
yes Andy!!! Love you man
Classic Jools Holland bringing everything back to Boogie Woogie
Stewart's drumming is just insane on this tune.
One of the most brilliant bands of the late 70’s early 80’s. I saw their Ghost In The Machine Tour, as well as Synchronicity Tour. What a fun band to watch.
I think that Roland guitar synth was played by David Byrne in ‘Stop Making Sence’
It's amazing that he was already almost 40 here - growing up as a massive Police fan I always thought he was around the same age as the two other guys.
same here! I was shocked to find out he played with 60's bands like the animals and even jammed with jimi hendrix.
Que músico más interesante, rico en sonidos y original que es Andy. Se puede escuchar tanto en los temas con police como en sus discos como solista.
Wow. That blue synth box is how they got the sound on Secret Journey, and later O My God. I always thought that was done on keyboards, but those spacey chords I now credit to Andy. Groundbreaking pop music. Beatles Schmeatles.
How dare you! Haha
To be fair, the Beatles did use synths on Abbey Road. before most other groups. And their use of the sitar and Mellotron was groundbreaking stuff.
Somehow, I manage to love the Beatles, the Police, the Clash and, uh, Tribe Called Quest without worrying about who was best.
Absolutely. Technical and creative genius!!!
one of the best Police songs, for me....
"These intervals go up to 11."
Has anyone heard/read the story (from Andy's book) about how he leaned the Telecaster next to a water boiler at Boston Garden (1982) - and it de-magnetized the guitar's pickup?
@Jim Rafferty - Yes, I've read the book. Great read! After that incident, he had to replace the pick-up and the guitar had never sounded quite the same again since then.
Si escuchas a ciegas un trozo de música que toca Andy Summers, podrías reconocer que es él, eso sí es crear un sonido propio🎸sin ni siquiera tocar a mil por hora y ciento de notas musicales a la vez.
Amazing.....
The album inner dust sleeve of zenyattamondattathat collage of photos is all pictures res taken by Andy throughout police world tours up til then
Andy Summers often says he’s the best guitar player out there, and he’s right.
Thank you, Andy Summers.
Andy is a GENIUS !
Love it when Jools pulls Andy’s cable out. “Probably best left to James Brown.” Very cocky and funny.
4:12 one of best riffs written
Lead and rhythm. Andy Summer's folks!
"...and Andy...Andy will always make ANYTHING sound good."
-Stewart Copeland
Andy has a very unique sound, one of my favorites...
!Is the timing, very important in photography too
Great tune.
@3:53-3:57 are those the pre-chorus part of Walking on the Moon, played hurriedly?
Some may say...
Yes, they are
the police o imortal🙂🙃😊
A totally brilliant guitarist.
Best version ever of Demolition Man!
Tremendo rollazo que tenían estos tres, mara meva.
I'm a synth nut and I've always wondered with my 18 years of synth knowledge, what the bloody hell opens Secret Journey. Now I know. Yes!
Very interesting video, can’t believe how young Jools Holland looks, I only knew it was him once he started talking.
Two great musicians and yes Andy Summers is very underrated indeed, I doubt he’s bothered too much about that though, he knows how good he is I would imagine.
Andy is a humble musical genius, and Jools is a tool.
And he comes across as a arrogant twat to me. I remember seeing this years ago and thought the same then
Demolition Man from the Ghost In The Machine album. Great song!
Hear all that noise coming from his effects? I use an original Deluxe Electric Mistress and you can hear the "swoosh" when not playing.
Ciao Andy, from Rome. MI diedero una TDK, con voi, sono del 1968. Alla tua insaputa sei stato Maestro "Gratis" per chi come me non era figlio di papà. Ma tu mi hai fatto conoscere subito le Triadi, oltre il resto. Questo mi ha permesso di decifrare al volo ciò che ascoltavo. Ti devo molto. Ti voglio tanto bene.
Bring On The Night = Classic + Reggae!
If only I could buy an official SD release of this band interview.
his sound was ahead of his time and his production choices hold up very well today.
5:47 how is it called that pedal/effect? It is now as a stompbox?
Andy is brilliance
Criminally underrated guitar player
my fave guitar players are david Gilmour andy summers and the edge
@mike murphy - Not bad, and close to my own favourites, but swap Gilmour for Alex Lifeson :-))
Thr edge sucks ass
@@mightyV444 No, one does not swap David Gilmour for Alex Lifeson. One swaps the Edge (and all his delay pedals) for Alex Lifeson. The Edge isn't qualified to carry Alex's lunch.
Very helpfull video,film.. Andy Summers is a verey Big Guitarplayer . Respeckt!!!!
Sting un melodiste, Stewart et andy le coeur de police, des musiciens, c'est eux qui font le son unique de Police
I Iove the way their voices get more and more similar
I know that it's popular in Holland and Belgium. Featured at some jazz/blues festivals as well.
Legendary!
6:47 lmfao
Bruh I was just about to do the same comment😂
Andy is killing it on demolition man
That's the studio recording
@@aavila1206 yea. I know. His guitar work on it is amazing. Sting and stewart sound fantastic too. All 3 of them in top gear on that track.
Andy Summers as a bluesman! Who would have thought.
8:00 Jools and Summers jamming is fantastic. Pros.
They both used the Roland GR300.
Sting thinking how he doesn’t make the beds too big without you into shreds too big without you
Despite all the jocular action between Andy and Jools, you can really see accumulated growing angst and sighing fatigue growing in Andy, even doing an interview that any guitar player(especially an underappreciated one), should enjoy. Per Stewart's/others Police biopics, the "GITM" sessions were basically the moment the guys knew that despite enormous success, they were imminently heading for breakup. Luckily per A&M's demands and one last headlining stadium tour cash grab, we got "Synchronicity" as a swan song. It's too bad of them but like other innovative, undefinable late 70's/early 80's bands like Japan, all great things sometimes must come to an end.
Q: "Do you ever press the wrong button?"
A: "Usually"
Lol!
Lovely Pete Cornish Pedalboard.
@SteveBZ69 in peace, couldnt disagree more steve, you clearly know your onions but as a newbie to the guitar I feel that Jools is basically approaching this from a "pedals for dummies" perspective and gets Andy to unpack his genius for us mere mortals to appreciate. I have always loved the police and seeing this clip makes you realise that it was Andy who was the real engine at work in the band.