Thanks so much! Definitely subscribed. Great info. I have the Pa'Lante Desert pack--just go it 12 days ago. Going a little nuts trying to fit even the smallest water bottle or my Android Galaxy AO3S to fit in the shoulder straps. Will the straps give a little over time our should I just carry my water in the side pockets only? Not a huge deal but a bit concerned about the phone storage. Also liked your thoughts about the MYOG addition of pockets to your Desert Pack. Please update us if you happen to go that route. Thanks in advance. BTW also liking your Tarp Set Ups. Great good stuff, I must say.
@jhonyermo Thanks for subscribing and checking out some of my videos. I'm happy that you found them helpful. The Ultra Mesh pockets on the shoulder straps will eventually wear and stretch a little more. I've been able to fit my iPhone 13 Pro in the pockets without any trouble. I'm not sure about the Android phone, but if the dimensions are similar then it should work. It's still tricky to get a water bottle in there, but I always have my bottles in the side pockets so it hasn't bothered me too much. Yeah, for the MYOG I was considering seam ripping the pack and also a Pa'lante Joey and sewing the entire vest strap harness to the Desert Pack. I'll put something out there if I end up doing that. Thanks so much! I love using tarps out on the trail. I'm happy you've been enjoying those setup videos too.
Nice comparison. I really like my desert and ultralight pack I do have the exact same as you. I don't see the point of the ultra for their pack because they don't seam tape them and most of their packs don't use ultra where the straps are sewn. I was also surprised that the joey wasn't made of ultra at the very top so maybe there's still a benefit to using ultra but it isn't clear to me. I mean, the main benefit of ultra is the water resistance but if it isn't taped and uses non waterproof fabrics where water could get in, what's the point?
@slicesofhikes Thank you! I haven’t had any major issues with water and the packs over the years, but I also always use a pack liner for my quilt and things to be kept dry. No matter what fabric or construction. Water can eventually find its way in somehow. The nylon collar on the Joeys and Ultralight could be due to the stress with the type of closure system, but I could be wrong. I’ve been very happy with Ultra and its durability/water resistance. The pack still works really well in varying conditions and seam sealer is always an additional option if desired.
Thank you for this nice review! I would like to get the desert pack, but i am a little worried as i do not own the best ultralight gear, would it still be okay to use it, if my usual gear isnt the lightest?
@AgnesArumetsa Thanks for watching! Don't worry too much about the best gear. The most important thing is to have fun out there. Sometimes the best gear is the gear we already have =). Comfort will vary per individual, but I feel a good limit for this pack would be around 25 lbs with food and water carries included. If out for a thru-hike or multi-day trip and the weight is more than 25, a framed pack might be more suitable.
@naskofilms4077 It does with a dialed in kit, but space will be limited with it. I have a clip floating around on my channel somewhere in the ‘Shorts’ section where I show a timelapse of packing my Ultralight with the BV450 for 4 days on the Monadnock Sunapee Greenway. For the JMT, I would probably go for something a little larger like the V2. The extra room could be nice but the pack can still roll down pretty small. That trail holds a special place in my heart and was one of my first thru hikes that started my long distance hiking journey. Hope you have a great hike!
You’ll need the BV500 for the JMT with the long food carries, mine was stuffed to the gills, and had dinner on the outside to make it thru…you’ll need more space. ❤
I like the build quality of Palante, but they're missing a few features that have made me steer towards other companies or cottage crafters. I really wish the shoulder strap pockets could fit a litre water bottle.
@gadblatz4841 The lack of features is one of the things that I’ve enjoyed with the packs 🙂. Though my Nashville Cutaway does have a bit more. Which others have you gone with? For the bottles, I have been able to fit a 1L Smartwater in the top shoulder pockets on all of the Joeys (the pockets are fairly wide) and on my v2. I believe the newer v2 uses the Ultra Mesh for those pockets now though. If so, I don’t think those bottles would fit due to the fact that it is difficult for me to with my Ultralight and Desert Pack that use the same pocket material.
@hulusaintway My favorite version of the Lone Peaks! I’ve been digging the 8s lately and they feel great, but still slightly prefer the 6 overall. It was a fantastic shoe!
@blancmarbe4021 I’m between a 18-19” torso, a little closer to 19”. I mentioned it around the 7:12 mark. I’ve found the 19” Desert and V2 to work best for me with the two size options. The 18” for the other packs in my video rides well too.
The straps for the side bag are too short. I bought one and had to return it. I wanted to use it as a cross-body satchel and have the shoulder and body straps, like a bike messenger bag. Didn’t work. The short straps had the bag riding too high up on my chest. I’m 5’-2”. Don’t know how you got yours to work like that unless they niw come with longer straps. The bag itself is also a very narrow depth, so hard to fit a lot in there. Again, they may have made changes, otherwise I don’t see how you’re putting much in there.
@randyholloway920 I don’t have any experience with the earlier versions of the sidebag so I’m not sure if they are different from the one I purchased. I went with the large which I’ve found to have fairly long straps. I’ve been able to fit quite a bit in the bag (see my Ultralight pack video here and skip to the timestamp for the Sidebag in the video description: ua-cam.com/video/bSsnjhWdzWk/v-deo.htmlsi=d-bXNz56r96RI8ZD). It’s been a great little bag for me so far.
@@sqd849 too narrow and no matter how I adjust it there’s a gap between the outer part of the shoulder strap and my shoulders. It causes the inner part of the shoulder straps to really dig in. It doesn’t sit flat if that makes sense.
Super helpful video. Loved seeing a side by side comparison and "actual use" perspective of the full line up. Thanks! I want a Joey!
@KevinRStrauss Awesome! I’m happy you found my video helpful. Thanks for watching. The Joey is a fantastic pack!
Thank you Mat, your experienced input is greatly appreciated!
@@ernestbuckstarr Always happy to share and help. Thanks for watching!
Joey is the most comfortable “hipbeltless” pack I’ve ever worn. Hate the straps on the ultralight.
@@BananaBabys The Joey continues to be one of my favorite packs to this day! I do enjoy the Ultralight too though.
Bravo. 👏. Good stuff!
@Brakhage9 Thank you! 🙂
Thanks so much! Definitely subscribed. Great info. I have the Pa'Lante Desert pack--just go it 12 days ago. Going a little nuts trying to fit even the smallest water bottle or my Android Galaxy AO3S to fit in the shoulder straps. Will the straps give a little over time our should I just carry my water in the side pockets only? Not a huge deal but a bit concerned about the phone storage.
Also liked your thoughts about the MYOG addition of pockets to your Desert Pack. Please update us if you happen to go that route. Thanks in advance. BTW also liking your Tarp Set Ups. Great good stuff, I must say.
@jhonyermo Thanks for subscribing and checking out some of my videos. I'm happy that you found them helpful. The Ultra Mesh pockets on the shoulder straps will eventually wear and stretch a little more. I've been able to fit my iPhone 13 Pro in the pockets without any trouble. I'm not sure about the Android phone, but if the dimensions are similar then it should work. It's still tricky to get a water bottle in there, but I always have my bottles in the side pockets so it hasn't bothered me too much. Yeah, for the MYOG I was considering seam ripping the pack and also a Pa'lante Joey and sewing the entire vest strap harness to the Desert Pack. I'll put something out there if I end up doing that. Thanks so much! I love using tarps out on the trail. I'm happy you've been enjoying those setup videos too.
Nice comparison. I really like my desert and ultralight pack I do have the exact same as you. I don't see the point of the ultra for their pack because they don't seam tape them and most of their packs don't use ultra where the straps are sewn. I was also surprised that the joey wasn't made of ultra at the very top so maybe there's still a benefit to using ultra but it isn't clear to me. I mean, the main benefit of ultra is the water resistance but if it isn't taped and uses non waterproof fabrics where water could get in, what's the point?
@slicesofhikes Thank you! I haven’t had any major issues with water and the packs over the years, but I also always use a pack liner for my quilt and things to be kept dry. No matter what fabric or construction. Water can eventually find its way in somehow. The nylon collar on the Joeys and Ultralight could be due to the stress with the type of closure system, but I could be wrong. I’ve been very happy with Ultra and its durability/water resistance. The pack still works really well in varying conditions and seam sealer is always an additional option if desired.
Thank you for this nice review! I would like to get the desert pack, but i am a little worried as i do not own the best ultralight gear, would it still be okay to use it, if my usual gear isnt the lightest?
@AgnesArumetsa Thanks for watching! Don't worry too much about the best gear. The most important thing is to have fun out there. Sometimes the best gear is the gear we already have =). Comfort will vary per individual, but I feel a good limit for this pack would be around 25 lbs with food and water carries included. If out for a thru-hike or multi-day trip and the weight is more than 25, a framed pack might be more suitable.
So the BV450 will fit inside the ultralight? Doing the JMT and trying to decide what’s the smallest pack I can get and have the bear canister inside.
@naskofilms4077 It does with a dialed in kit, but space will be limited with it. I have a clip floating around on my channel somewhere in the ‘Shorts’ section where I show a timelapse of packing my Ultralight with the BV450 for 4 days on the Monadnock Sunapee Greenway. For the JMT, I would probably go for something a little larger like the V2. The extra room could be nice but the pack can still roll down pretty small. That trail holds a special place in my heart and was one of my first thru hikes that started my long distance hiking journey. Hope you have a great hike!
You’ll need the BV500 for the JMT with the long food carries, mine was stuffed to the gills, and had dinner on the outside to make it thru…you’ll need more space. ❤
Excellent video!
@randyholloway920 Thank you so much!
What one would you recommend for one or two nights camping with a 2 person tent like the nature hike cloud 2?
Nice video 👍
@NorwayHikesTrails Thank you! 🙂
I think you may have a pack addiction. 😂
@mikeb7117 Maybe 😂
I like the build quality of Palante, but they're missing a few features that have made me steer towards other companies or cottage crafters. I really wish the shoulder strap pockets could fit a litre water bottle.
@gadblatz4841 The lack of features is one of the things that I’ve enjoyed with the packs 🙂. Though my Nashville Cutaway does have a bit more. Which others have you gone with? For the bottles, I have been able to fit a 1L Smartwater in the top shoulder pockets on all of the Joeys (the pockets are fairly wide) and on my v2. I believe the newer v2 uses the Ultra Mesh for those pockets now though. If so, I don’t think those bottles would fit due to the fact that it is difficult for me to with my Ultralight and Desert Pack that use the same pocket material.
I like the altra lp6 yellow version, but I can’t find it anymore
@hulusaintway My favorite version of the Lone Peaks! I’ve been digging the 8s lately and they feel great, but still slightly prefer the 6 overall. It was a fantastic shoe!
What size are you ? I don’t know what size to buy between 17 and 19 inches
@blancmarbe4021 I’m between a 18-19” torso, a little closer to 19”. I mentioned it around the 7:12 mark. I’ve found the 19” Desert and V2 to work best for me with the two size options. The 18” for the other packs in my video rides well too.
The straps for the side bag are too short. I bought one and had to return it. I wanted to use it as a cross-body satchel and have the shoulder and body straps, like a bike messenger bag. Didn’t work. The short straps had the bag riding too high up on my chest. I’m 5’-2”. Don’t know how you got yours to work like that unless they niw come with longer straps.
The bag itself is also a very narrow depth, so hard to fit a lot in there.
Again, they may have made changes, otherwise I don’t see how you’re putting much in there.
@randyholloway920 I don’t have any experience with the earlier versions of the sidebag so I’m not sure if they are different from the one I purchased. I went with the large which I’ve found to have fairly long straps. I’ve been able to fit quite a bit in the bag (see my Ultralight pack video here and skip to the timestamp for the Sidebag in the video description: ua-cam.com/video/bSsnjhWdzWk/v-deo.htmlsi=d-bXNz56r96RI8ZD). It’s been a great little bag for me so far.
Love the style and look of the pack but hate the shoulder straps.
Same!
What do you guys find lacking about the straps? Not wide enough? Too thin in the padding?
@@sqd849 too narrow and no matter how I adjust it there’s a gap between the outer part of the shoulder strap and my shoulders. It causes the inner part of the shoulder straps to really dig in. It doesn’t sit flat if that makes sense.
Same issue as @jakeva9802
Same here but strangely, it doesn't hurt my shoulders but I thought I was the only one because I'm a thin guy with narrow shoulders...
i make my own packs now, but since they switched to adding binding on the perimeter on the shoulder straps, they’re unbearable imo.
@alexhonken Nice! It’s tough to compare anything to a MYOG project. What kind of pack did you end up making?