Hi Bruce, I have been a diesel engineer for 45 years in Europe. Looking at the second cylinder, it definitely looks like it's been worked on. I would say that the sleeve seal has been installed incorrectly and is now your issue. Unfortunately, that means pulling the sleeve to change the seal. I'm glad you like our European trucks mate. I'm sure that given enough coverage on your side of the pond, more drivers will see the luxury and power of our trucks. Love your channel sir.
You're dern tootin'! Us American's know you guys and gals across the pond get down the right way, we just never get to see it!!! Especially places like Sweden, Finland... The way them boys do metal music over there? There's no question they know a thing or two about V8 POWER! No question at all.
@@derekspringer6448inline 6 is always gonna have more torque. More torque = more pull going up a mountain. Nothing against V8’s but it doesn’t make sense in a Semi unless it’s driving on completely flat roads everywhere.
Hi Bruce. I'm an Senior technician at Scania in Sweden, don't have that much experience with the 14 L engine but renovated a bunch of 16 L. You want to remove the liners and check how your engine block looks, if you are lucky you will get away with new o-rings and maybe a pair of new liners. What you want to think about is the other cylinders, if you gona do this kind of work, think about removing and check the rest. And you don't have to machine the head, clean it and check for cracks.
It never ceases to amaze me.. Why doesn't anyone give engines a good wash before they start repairing them.. It makes everything so much easier, and not to mention cleaner to work with.
@@noexp7710 Yes, it's true.. but when it comes to repairs that you don't want road dust and other things in, and the fact that you're in a workshop.. then it's always easier to work with a clean engine.. If it's a reparation in the bushes, then it is a completely different situation.
In the Uk before you present your truck for it's yearly MOT (DOT) inspection you must steam clean the entire vehicle, if they deem it not clean enough they can refuse to test,you forfeit your fee and pay again when you rebook another test.
I would have taken a picture before I steam cleaned the entire truck then another after, before I start taking bits off and also I would run the engine for 20-30 mins to help any oil find it's way out to help identify points of possible failure.
It is not so surprising from Bruce. I don't know if you watched video where he decided to rip to shreds tires on red Scania. But anyways,melted rubber was sprayed all over the back of the cab and i bet they still didn't clean that thing until this day.
It's great that you've returned to the USA, I'm sure you have a lot to tell after your visit to Sweden and Finland, and I'm waiting for a video in which you share your impressions. Your Scania deserves a complete restoration from the engine to the cabin. I also think that after visiting the Scania factory, you will definitely receive help from them soon and they will help restore this beauty to its beautiful condition. Greetings from a Pole living in Germany.
@@LILLJE At least I have seen some of the guys from Scania HQ Sweden in the comments... and from the video I got the impression they´ve watched some of the videos Bruce has done back home Florida
You don't need to machine the cylinder heads. It is enough to clean the surfaces well. And that block usually has to be machined to an oversized size if it leaks from that part, but I didn't see any terrible corrosion in the video at least. And one option could be that the cylinder sleeve is installed badly, so the o-ring is leaking from there, because it looks like someone has done something to that other cylinder. Edit. And be sure to check the block for cracks. I had one like this once. it was cracked, as I recall, at the cylinder bolt and it was leaking water. Hope you see this edit
Congratulations to Dalton the new owner BC. I am super to know that BC will be coming home to our great state of Texas!! My opinion don't come at me!!! Congratulations again Dalton!!! Good luck in BC!!
I also thought that grinding over is not necessary. However, I'm not a car mechanic but a toolmaker, so I'm more careful with what I say. These are solid grey cast iron parts, which are also not long and large, and will never warp much. Scania has made a good design. Dry ice would certainly be ideal for cleaning. Afterwards, the parts would look like new.
@@peterpan7903 I used to repair many Scania engines and the cylinder heads were never machined. I learned how to do these from a mechanic who had been at Scania for 40 years, and he never machined cylinder heads either. They were just cleaned properly with a machine that doesn't wear that surface much. I don't know their English names, but a small hand-held dremel or something like that
There is weep holes in the block, one for each cylinder. If the sleeves have sunk down , is cracked or the o rings are bad you will have coolant leaking through the weep holes. Make sure the weep holes are clean, and look at them while the engine is running you will see what cylinder is leaking
Thanks Bruce, you're one top gizza. Keep'em vids coming, I luv'em. Most of my time, only drove DAF's. Been in a Scania 144 400+ (not too sure, of exact horsepower), for about, 14 months, a few months, in a Merc Actros & a Volvo FH (currently, a Volvo, since Nov this year). Always been a Scania fan, particularly the V8 & the longline with all that live-in free space, but as of yet, still never, never got even close to a Longline, let alone ever touched one (don't see too many of'em, here in the UK), cos' of overall length regs here in the UK, plus client location, tends to be impossible with a unit, of such a size, thus, you'd miss out on work.👍👍👍👍👍
You need to jack the cab all the way there has been many cases of the cab crushing someone in the engine bay when its not fully jacked down. Dont want you to get hurt
@@jone8626..just because it has mass that's only slightly over balanced holding it with a ratcheting screw jack, is not enough alone to stop a moment's inattentiveness pushing back or pulling down on the the cab for leverage, at its current resting position to overload the ratchet and squish someone. Only one poor mistake is needed on heavy duty things, to go wrong all too easily.
In the U.K Scania trucks are ubiquitous, so Blue Collar, the Freightliner cabover truck is something special, American trucks are stylish. Good Luck with the Scania.
It will be the seals in the head gasket. the V8 is renowned for the seals going. I did some on a 143. Don't get the head machined, its not needed as the individual heads don't tend to become mis formed. It really looks like the one head has been off before, and make sure you follow the torque pattern when putting them back on.
Hi Bruce, Like others have said, and since you're planning to replace the engine altogheter, don't rush the overhaul on this engine. Take your time and do a deeper review & repair. I'm certain that with assistance from Ville and the guys at Ylivoimala, this engine will be back in tip top shape.
I agree. I don't understand why he does this now. If he's gonna take the engine off the truck anyway, why doesn't he take it off before he does anything to it. It would also be much easier to work if he has free space around the engine.
Hey Bruce great to see you back on home soil looks like your definitely becoming a Scania fan which is nice to see congratulation to the guy who won blue collar he’s definitely going to have a brilliant Truck keep up the amazing content 👍🏻
Its good that u decided to take 2 heads off, thats always a solution with these when its not crystal clear what could leak. 2 new liners coming right up! 💪😊 over night shipping would make this project so much easier.
Can't believe nobody mentioning this, the v8 Scanias are known, well known for block fretting around the liners. I work on a fleet of them, seen it plenty.
Maybe it's wise? To also replace the other 4 on that side? Now, isn't it loose yet? But!! Scania for Ever! V8,V8, is what gets your heart pumping!! Wishing you a Happy New Year and God's blessings for 2024. Greetings from Spakenburg, Netherlands.
Bruce, mate. Preparation is the key to doing any job right engine should have been steam cleaned. Take the four heads off and replace the gaskets. If you need to replace liner seals. All heads off and replace all liner seals. Remember, drive out the gate looking forward not behind.
if you want it for your life time, do what's good and fast, if you want your kids to run it, tear it down and build it back, and make the dream work. you know we will watch you.
Hitting that 1.000.000 subs would be SWEET !! But I think you'll get there, with the content you're putting out and in the frequency you're doing it. You make us feel part of your journey. Keep goin'!
Bruce I work on a very similar German engine and it has the same problems with liner oring leaks. I know it’s a pain but if you go to Home Depot and grab some expander plugs and you can make a block off plate to pressurize the cooling system and spay soapy water on that liner to see if it leaks. I can tell you that unfortunately it’s never the head gasket for me but mine isn’t the same engine. I will say atleast you see how quickly you can get at it maybe just throw the head on it and see ,all your in it is some gaskets and a couple hrs. If it is the liner in all my cases the counter bore is never messed up and we just throw a new liner and orings in it and on ya go. The head gasket did look like the oring part that sealed coolant ripped and was stuck to your head.
Those calipers and pads look very similar to what we have here, at least on my Pete and KWs. Before ordering them from overseas pull the pads and take them to a Pete/kw dealer and ask to see some pads for a new truck. I can get you a part number for them if needed
Best of luck to you bruce with these coming videos! American or European truck content I both have been amazing! Been watching you since 3+ years! May you have a wonderful holidays with your family and whatnot, maybe probably you should buy a sand blaster to treat parts by yourself as a potential addition in the future! Good luck fixing these olde European work horses to their glory and specially drifting/ripping the red one, cant wait for tomorrows video :>
I’ve enjoyed your Scania adventures Bruce. Finland was awesome with (Ville?). But it would have been even more hilarious if Ryan went with you to film just for his reactions and commentary! Imagine Ryan being a Ryan on straight ice and snow. I’d have spent money to see that haha 😂. Keep it up Bruce; I’m loving these taboo videos brother!
Lol... the moment the cab tilted l said 'reminder to self' ...pressure wash and steam clean running gear before moving vehicle indoors to commence tear down. Great video.
No one in Europe would EVER put a newer type V8 in a 4 series 😂😂 that's a NO GO. You've still got a lot to learn about Scania and their heritage my friend, the 144 and 164 engine's are ver, very desirable over here because of their sound and performance 😅 you just don't put a newer type engine in a 4 series.... i would rather have the complete engine overhauled than put a newer type V8 in a 4 series, but otherwise great content, Bruce 👍 👌
Looks like there are grooves machined into the head to gasket in the liner area that are meant to keep the seal in place. Machining the head flat will remove them and it will probably keep blowing head gaskets after that.
I like your videos my friend I got Covid 3 years ago I almost died I drove front discharge concrete trucks ,road tractors pulling dump trailers and tandem dump trucks for 20 years i haven’t been in a truck since and probably never will be able to I just want to say great videos enjoy watching hope you and family has a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 🌲
Yeah I’ve been into Scanias for 30 year and drove a 143 500 bull nose 1993 when they were the latest thing so I’m enjoying your videos on the v8s .. spot on job your doing
Jumping right in, wasting no time. I bet you don't miss the snow. haha. I'm excited to see this project take off! I love these wrenching videos. Keep me coming.
[2:30] If you put auto-generated subtitles on while Bruce is backing the Scania into the shop, when only the engine can be heard ~ the AI captions the sound literally as [music]... yes, language algorithm, you are indeed right... it IS music, sweet V8 music... 🚛🎶 😄👍
Hi Bruce, from past experience I would say it’s a liner seal, really not a big deal on the Scania. Only other thing I would say if you’re doing one, you may as well do the lot job done.
I've worked with Scania for 15 years and did alot of motor repairs and never once machined a cylinder head. Just clean all surfaces that need new gaskets and you're fine. About that liner I would take it out and check it to be safe.
what you want to do is pull the liners and on the inside where the top of the liner meets the block check for any corrosion. if the block is corroded down past 4cm of the top youll need to bore it and use oversized liners. if there isnt any corrosion renewing the liner and block orings should do fine to keep the engine from leaking. i would suggest doing all the orings if thats the case tho. it would be much easier to do them all now then to do one or two and come back in a years time to do more.
@@Tabacish they are easily replaceable it's all the stripping needed to get to replacing the liners that take the time. Also if the block is worn passed a certain point the liner won't seal properly. I'd hope I would know I work at a scania dealership
@@fleimlehner I used to make the liners... Mostly PDE, HPI and XPI, but also D9, D11 and D14, as spare parts. Can't remember making oversized liners ....
@@Tabacish OK? Just because you didn't make them doesn't mean they don't exist. We just built two DC13s with oversized liners if they don't exist then god help those two lorries
From what I can see the liners appearbto be sunken into the block. I have never built a scania but if this was a detroit we would be measuring liner protrusion and likely be cutting and shimming the block to make the liners stick out like they are supposed to be. Good luck man
@railasvuo thank you sir. It's a pretty common repair among all manufacturers. I've done the same on Cummins, Cat, Detroit, International, and a few other industrial engines. All part of having a floating sleeve. Even Mack engines with RTV in sleeves walk a little when making bigger power causing the surface that the liner sits on to degrade over time.
@@FxnBoats Exactly. It's just hard for me to explain these sometimes when English is not my first language and it's been a few years since I worked at Scania. But I learned these things there from the mechanics who had been at Scania for 40 years. It was the best time of my life
@kennethprocak5176 only if the liner is in the correct position in the block to begin with. Too far down and it won't crush the head gasket properly. Too far up and it will hold the head up off the deck surface. When you rebuild most big diesel engines you use a sled guage to measure how far the liners stick up out of the block to ensure proper sealing against the head surface.
2:01 When I close my eyes and listen to that V8 engine it's as if this video is recorded somewhere in Scandinavia... 😊💯🚚 Lot's of SCANIA's where I live.
'Muricans can be like ..cleanin is fur sissies, this is one of em fancy Euro mothers, it shud be manly enuff for a bit ol' dirt Jokes aside, there's a new motor coming soon, so, hopefully this engine & engine bay/chassis area will get washed.before transplanting the newe motor and parts, as it is grotty with crud like a soiled babies arse.
Those bolts were to easy to undo Bruce. I’d check every head with a torque wrench if I was you. It could cost you by breaking down in a serious manner.
People saying no need machine the head. With Them being single heads they don’t warp so no machining just thorough cleaning. No need wasting money. Check your liner hight though. Scalia USA should tell you the allowable hight and torque figures you need. Take them all off. If those bolts are not quite correctly torqued down it will eventually cost you new liners and pistons. They really do need checking Bruce.
Pull both liners og replace the seals but also check carefully for any corrosion where the seals sit. Both the liner and the block can corrode. You should also replace all of the rod bearings if you intend to keep the engine for some time, they are usually worn if they haven’t been replaced recently. Main bearings are usually ok. These are very simple and nice engines to work on 😃
hi bruce as a ex HGV fitter trained on scania`s i would say from what iv seen IF THE OIL IS NOT CONTAMINATED WITH WATER / NOT CREAMIE just black , i would say at this stage it look`s like head gasket / seal`s .just check your linner deap`s make sure there both the same
Probably the industry in America is so behind. The buyer does not want it. Most of the American trucks are owned by European companies. Mercedes, traton and Volvo.
lol buyers WANT ALL THE GADGETS and comfort. its just that murica have the 25 year LAW so everything volvo sells in murica is outdated in europe.. @@magnusE7
European Volvo and Amerian Volvo/Mack are two very separate things technically...just like a Scania and Peterbilt for example..Its pity Bruce isnt just a All-truck-guy, there's alot to watch in european Volvo too, especially for american channel fans...lots of Quirks and features, maybe little bit more than in new Scania
A Volvo VNL is Volvo doing Volvo the American way. It does come with the same D13 that is the standard on the Euro continent. D16 option went away in 2009 though. Can't be easy being up against W900 and the Peteys. It's truckers after all, no need to change nothing! 😄
The matting as you call it inside the mudguard, if you didn't know, it is to prevent water spray hitting other vehicles, during heavy rain periods. It is a legal requirement in Europe UK and Eire to have these fitted reducing the mist that covers 6 to 10 wide lane motorways operating at 70 mph.
In V8 u should press coolant from the bottom, otherways air wont come out from system...its a law in scania service: if u see a level in coolant tank, pour from top...if u cant see, push from bottom with pump.
When u are a Scania owner, engine is a frequent headache...been there, done that....now with a Volvo only time I remove a valve cover is for adjusting valves and injectors..
21:33 Yeah , gas pressure doesn't really work that way. If you were to put pressure sensors in each of the cylinder's ports , the pressures would be all the same , regardless of which cylinder was closest to the intercooler. The intake plumbing acts as a plenum chamber. "A plenum chamber is a pressurised housing containing a fluid at positive pressure. One of its functions is to equalise pressure for more even distribution, compensating for irregular supply or demand. It is typically relatively large in volume and thus has relatively low velocity compared to the system's other components."
Bruce .. would say its a,liner seal.. but also check the liner hasn't dropped aswell... With your brake discs & pads aswell. You maybe lucky to pull the alloy bearing cover off .use a caliper bolt to try to draw it off you may get lucky but you normally end up smashing the bearing cover off so maybe order 2 new bearing covers the plastic nut normally chews up when trying to screw out of the bearing cover.. You don't need to skim the heads either !!!!
normal spot for a leak anyway. two hottest cylnders. I watched a 16L scania get rebuilt here on you tube.. newer engine. dual cams in the block, no pushrods. they mounted them up high in the cradle of the engine...one on each side. monsterous enigne,.makes your cylinders look tiny. Did not expect to see a giant pushrod coming out of there. Old scania.
Maybe it is an O-ring on the liner, that was not installed correctly, or curled up when installed. You don’t need to refurbish the heads, they are basiccaly just a cube of cast iron, and don’t twist with heat. But you have to pull the liner, to install a new set of O-rings.
Hi Bruce Scania’s don’t blow head gaskets if it’s leaking coolant from the heads it’s liner O’rings failure due to corrosion. Check the block for cracks where the liners seat as it’s common You might have to cut the block and go oversized liners if the corrosion is bad.
Tip, when changin oil and filters, pour new oil from opening underneath that spinning oil filter, it's lot faster that way. And there is cardboard thingy available for that spinning filter, so its lot easier to clean.
I am not to trucks at all, and I am not interested about vehicle motors. But there is something very interesting in Bruce's videos and ways to explain things (kudos to camera man/woman) that I want to watch everything there is in the video from start to end. I have always lived among Scania, Volvo etc scandinavian trucks, that I admire their form and design, but I have never had idea to compare them this ways to US made huge trucks.
Also Bruce the dry parts you mention are just how the heads are shaped when on the block that's nothing to worry about Would still say liner seal.. and possibly liner dropped in the block !!!!
Wear safety glasses! If you often forget, make it a routine to wear them anytime you're in the shop. My brother lost his right eye from using compressed air and got a small metal flake in his eye. It started rusting and caused an infection leaving him with 20% sight left.
Of course, these trucks are designed for large commercial fleets where comprehensive maintenance schedules include engine programs with Scania. You bought this truck cheap and here in OZ we do engine rebuilds every million kms. These rebuilds cost $50k, but you basically get a new engine as part of the program. Its a one day turnaround. They are designed to work 18x7 with proper driver shifts. Then the maintenance costs are amortised in a matter of weeks. Well maintained, they will just keep going indefinitely with factory maintenance. However, it would not be financially viable for a private operator and certainly not a backyard workshop. Its like buying a plane and not keeping up the preventative maintenance.
Have the head crack tested as well ...Definitely have the head skimmed .... check the valve guides....have the valves reseated ....that's what i would do..at least you know that you have a re serviceable cylinder head ....
Definitely looks like maybe someone was into it before and 'rolled' one of those sleeve seals when they were installing them. I think it'll be a good plan to knock both those sleeves out and see what's up with them. Hopefully not a cracked block, but probably unlikely as it doesn't look like it's been overheated.😉
The multicolored coolant makes me wonder about cavitation wear issues. The proper coolant probably had cavitation preventatives. It will be interesting to see the outside of those liners. Best hopes for you from me.
Hi. Bruce , its most likely the orings , replece them and the head gasket , you dont need to machine the head they dont warp when ther individual Best regards from Sweden
Shame, that I cannot order from your shop to Estonia. But second thing is more positive: There's been a lot of awesome videos with Ylivoimala. Keep it up! :)
Im really interested your channel after you wisited here in Finland and do amazing video with Ylivoimala :D Bro... Just keep going and do more videos :) Just subscribed your channel to see the future how Scania fits into a us trailers :D
I usually block the water jacket holes on block n top the water up full n check for seepage if there is ,even if linner has some damage url see it .. best off luck there
The mat inside the wheel arch is for spray suppression and is a legal requirement in Europe. I'm pretty certain that Oskosh import Scania fire appliances into the US for city work so it might be worth seeing if they can source parts for you as a lot of parts are common across the range. As an example Scania made 13 different cab types and they all had the same windscreen.
Excellent comment Paul. I think its just the V8 engines and drivelines but that is all Bruce needs right now. I noticed that the V8s are also used in the Oshkosh Striker 6 x 6 and 4 x 4 fire appliances ... Pretty sure Oshkosh would do overnight!
It does look like someone has been working on the second head lately. You can see the difference in the gaskets. I would pull the liner and see what the seals are like.🤞 it is easily fixable for you.
Cylinder 6 looks like it has definitely had work done to it by the marks on the rocker bolts. Probably not changed the cylinder liner seals and just done a head gasket. It will be a good idea to do the seals in the liner. Make sure you get the proper sequence to tighten the head back down as some heads can be different in sequences. I am sure Ville will probably give you good advice also.
One advice, after driving the truck and the engine is hot, don`t turn the engine directly off. The turbo needs to cool down, when you turn the engine directly off, the turbo will stay hot and can bend. To expand the lifetime of your turbo, let the engine run at least for 5 minutes, after driving the truck.
The new found confidence from working with the Jedi’s is shining through, even spills on the shop floor is starting to annoy Bruce. Scania U.S specialists has a good ring to it 👍🏻
Hands up all those who will never strip a scania, perhaps have limited interest in lorries i have an Agri unimog u430 so find lorries rather tedious in the UK as they hold up Farm traffic, will never but merch or parts as not USA, yet are totally invested in this story
In Finland there is this crew/family called Herlevi. You might have been seen videos from them, but they are BIG on these Scanias. They make all the horsepower from these in truckpulling and on the road stuff. Might want to buy big mechanical pump for your 144 as a comparison for the EDC pump.
For safety you need a prop to stop the cab from crushing you if it falls back.also venting oil on to the road will sure make you popular with the local bikers ....run it into a big catch can and dispose of it
Im sorry that there's an issue with it! I like following your Scania journey as a Brit. Have you considered doing a Scania engine swap on one of the American cabovers as a project? I think a modern drivetrain in a classic truck would be pretty cool.
Bruce it looks like the sleeve seal is leaking probably In stalled incorrectly. wait until you get your 1000hp and put it in that one but put a second drive axle .Then strip this engine and twin turbo it and put it in the red truck but again second axle. love your channel Bruce.
You don’t normally need to scimm the head it’s normally liner if you pull it out and clean it up re fit it with new seals you put a ring of rtv sealant round the top of the block and clamp the liner down with some steel blocks into the head bolt holes and leave it overnight then fit the head back on afterwards
Hi Bruce, I have been a diesel engineer for 45 years in Europe. Looking at the second cylinder, it definitely looks like it's been worked on. I would say that the sleeve seal has been installed incorrectly and is now your issue. Unfortunately, that means pulling the sleeve to change the seal. I'm glad you like our European trucks mate. I'm sure that given enough coverage on your side of the pond, more drivers will see the luxury and power of our trucks. Love your channel sir.
You're dern tootin'! Us American's know you guys and gals across the pond get down the right way, we just never get to see it!!!
Especially places like Sweden, Finland... The way them boys do metal music over there? There's no question they know a thing or two about V8 POWER! No question at all.
@@derekspringer6448inline 6 is always gonna have more torque. More torque = more pull going up a mountain. Nothing against V8’s but it doesn’t make sense in a Semi unless it’s driving on completely flat roads everywhere.
@@BFT88 Thats why scania offers the dc09, their take on the inline 6
Who told you that?
@@BFT88I'm pretty sure it's the other way around
Hi Bruce. I'm an Senior technician at Scania in Sweden, don't have that much experience with the 14 L engine but renovated a bunch of 16 L. You want to remove the liners and check how your engine block looks, if you are lucky you will get away with new o-rings and maybe a pair of new liners. What you want to think about is the other cylinders, if you gona do this kind of work, think about removing and check the rest. And you don't have to machine the head, clean it and check for cracks.
Perfectly explained. Best regards, former Scania mechanic from Finland
Correct
Makes sense while it's apart.
It never ceases to amaze me.. Why doesn't anyone give engines a good wash before they start repairing them.. It makes everything so much easier, and not to mention cleaner to work with.
Just depends on job and if I have time. If I’m pulling a head I’m with you.
@@noexp7710 Yes, it's true.. but when it comes to repairs that you don't want road dust and other things in, and the fact that you're in a workshop.. then it's always easier to work with a clean engine.. If it's a reparation in the bushes, then it is a completely different situation.
In the Uk before you present your truck for it's yearly MOT (DOT) inspection you must steam clean the entire vehicle, if they deem it not clean enough they can refuse to test,you forfeit your fee and pay again when you rebook another test.
I would have taken a picture before I steam cleaned the entire truck then another after, before I start taking bits off and also I would run the engine for 20-30 mins to help any oil find it's way out to help identify points of possible failure.
It is not so surprising from Bruce.
I don't know if you watched video where he decided to rip to shreds tires on red Scania.
But anyways,melted rubber was sprayed all over the back of the cab and i bet they still didn't clean that thing until this day.
It's great that you've returned to the USA, I'm sure you have a lot to tell after your visit to Sweden and Finland, and I'm waiting for a video in which you share your impressions. Your Scania deserves a complete restoration from the engine to the cabin. I also think that after visiting the Scania factory, you will definitely receive help from them soon and they will help restore this beauty to its beautiful condition. Greetings from a Pole living in Germany.
Right, all Europeans with Scania connections, make sure that Scania marketing department understands the value and hopefully they’ll help out! Win win
@@LILLJE At least I have seen some of the guys from Scania HQ Sweden in the comments... and from the video I got the impression they´ve watched some of the videos Bruce has done back home Florida
You don't need to machine the cylinder heads. It is enough to clean the surfaces well. And that block usually has to be machined to an oversized size if it leaks from that part, but I didn't see any terrible corrosion in the video at least. And one option could be that the cylinder sleeve is installed badly, so the o-ring is leaking from there, because it looks like someone has done something to that other cylinder.
Edit. And be sure to check the block for cracks. I had one like this once. it was cracked, as I recall, at the cylinder bolt and it was leaking water. Hope you see this edit
Congratulations to Dalton the new owner BC. I am super to know that BC will be coming home to our great state of Texas!! My opinion don't come at me!!! Congratulations again Dalton!!! Good luck in BC!!
@@carriebrumley8926Dalton will probably use it as a Bull Hauler and pull a Wilson Livestock van with it.
I also thought that grinding over is not necessary. However, I'm not a car mechanic but a toolmaker, so I'm more careful with what I say. These are solid grey cast iron parts, which are also not long and large, and will never warp much. Scania has made a good design. Dry ice would certainly be ideal for cleaning. Afterwards, the parts would look like new.
@@peterpan7903 I used to repair many Scania engines and the cylinder heads were never machined. I learned how to do these from a mechanic who had been at Scania for 40 years, and he never machined cylinder heads either. They were just cleaned properly with a machine that doesn't wear that surface much. I don't know their English names, but a small hand-held dremel or something like that
There is weep holes in the block, one for each cylinder. If the sleeves have sunk down , is cracked or the o rings are bad you will have coolant leaking through the weep holes. Make sure the weep holes are clean, and look at them while the engine is running you will see what cylinder is leaking
The reason that piston has less build up is because coolant leaking into cylinder is steam cleaning it basically
My thought also .
It just doesn't explain why the cylinder head is so clean. Probably something done there
Thanks Bruce, you're one top gizza. Keep'em vids coming, I luv'em. Most of my time, only drove DAF's. Been in a Scania 144 400+ (not too sure, of exact horsepower), for about, 14 months, a few months, in a Merc Actros & a Volvo FH (currently, a Volvo, since Nov this year). Always been a Scania fan, particularly the V8 & the longline with all that live-in free space, but as of yet, still never, never got even close to a Longline, let alone ever touched one (don't see too many of'em, here in the UK), cos' of overall length regs here in the UK, plus client location, tends to be impossible with a unit, of such a size, thus, you'd miss out on work.👍👍👍👍👍
You need to jack the cab all the way there has been many cases of the cab crushing someone in the engine bay when its not fully jacked down. Dont want you to get hurt
@@jone8626..just because it has mass that's only slightly over balanced holding it with a ratcheting screw jack, is not enough alone to stop a moment's inattentiveness pushing back or pulling down on the the cab for leverage, at its current resting position to overload the ratchet and squish someone.
Only one poor mistake is needed on heavy duty things, to go wrong all too easily.
In the U.K Scania trucks are ubiquitous, so Blue Collar, the Freightliner cabover truck is something special, American trucks are stylish. Good Luck with the Scania.
It will be the seals in the head gasket. the V8 is renowned for the seals going. I did some on a 143. Don't get the head machined, its not needed as the individual heads don't tend to become mis formed. It really looks like the one head has been off before, and make sure you follow the torque pattern when putting them back on.
Hi Christopher. Whats is the ideal pattern when you gonna put back the head?
I love how videos like this can bring all the engineers and mechanics together all over europe. God bless all of you.
Hi Bruce,
Like others have said, and since you're planning to replace the engine altogheter, don't rush the overhaul on this engine. Take your time and do a deeper review & repair. I'm certain that with assistance from Ville and the guys at Ylivoimala, this engine will be back in tip top shape.
I agree. I don't understand why he does this now. If he's gonna take the engine off the truck anyway, why doesn't he take it off before he does anything to it. It would also be much easier to work if he has free space around the engine.
Hey Bruce great to see you back on home soil looks like your definitely becoming a Scania fan which is nice to see congratulation to the guy who won blue collar he’s definitely going to have a brilliant Truck keep up the amazing content 👍🏻
Man not power washing before disassembly bothered me the whole video.
It's because he's got 730hp coming
@@richardputaura3342 ehmm... 950+ hp 😉
Its good that u decided to take 2 heads off, thats always a solution with these when its not crystal clear what could leak. 2 new liners coming right up! 💪😊 over night shipping would make this project so much easier.
Great to see you starting the Scania project! I will follow closely.
Can't believe nobody mentioning this, the v8 Scanias are known, well known for block fretting around the liners. I work on a fleet of them, seen it plenty.
When you fill the engine with coolant, fill it with a pump from the bottom and up, or vacuum-fill it. Easy to get airpockets in the engine.
It have retarder, too.. i usually fill them back from retarder plug.. but its old engine, dont see those in eu anymore 😅
Maybe it's wise? To also replace the other 4 on that side? Now, isn't it loose yet? But!! Scania for Ever! V8,V8, is what gets your heart pumping!! Wishing you a Happy New Year and God's blessings for 2024. Greetings from Spakenburg, Netherlands.
Bruce, mate. Preparation is the key to doing any job right engine should have been steam cleaned. Take the four heads off and replace the gaskets. If you need to replace liner seals. All heads off and replace all liner seals.
Remember, drive out the gate looking forward not behind.
if you want it for your life time, do what's good and fast, if you want your kids to run it, tear it down and build it back, and make the dream work. you know we will watch you.
Hitting that 1.000.000 subs would be SWEET !! But I think you'll get there, with the content you're putting out and in the frequency you're doing it. You make us feel part of your journey. Keep goin'!
Bruce I work on a very similar German engine and it has the same problems with liner oring leaks. I know it’s a pain but if you go to Home Depot and grab some expander plugs and you can make a block off plate to pressurize the cooling system and spay soapy water on that liner to see if it leaks. I can tell you that unfortunately it’s never the head gasket for me but mine isn’t the same engine. I will say atleast you see how quickly you can get at it maybe just throw the head on it and see ,all your in it is some gaskets and a couple hrs. If it is the liner in all my cases the counter bore is never messed up and we just throw a new liner and orings in it and on ya go. The head gasket did look like the oring part that sealed coolant ripped and was stuck to your head.
Glad to see you back at the shop Bruce doing your thing on that beautiful truck 🚚 bro..!!😊 your very inspiring Bruce Wilson.
No lie man mans came out the gate swinging on adulthood… he’s had a few losses but came back harder than rocky on mr T…
Those calipers and pads look very similar to what we have here, at least on my Pete and KWs. Before ordering them from overseas pull the pads and take them to a Pete/kw dealer and ask to see some pads for a new truck. I can get you a part number for them if needed
Paccar uses the same calipers as the older scanias.
Rock n roll Bruce for bringing back the parts needed to rebuild the engine on your Scian!
Best of luck to you bruce with these coming videos! American or European truck content I both have been amazing! Been watching you since 3+ years! May you have a wonderful holidays with your family and whatnot, maybe probably you should buy a sand blaster to treat parts by yourself as a potential addition in the future! Good luck fixing these olde European work horses to their glory and specially drifting/ripping the red one, cant wait for tomorrows video :>
I’ve enjoyed your Scania adventures Bruce. Finland was awesome with (Ville?). But it would have been even more hilarious if Ryan went with you to film just for his reactions and commentary! Imagine Ryan being a Ryan on straight ice and snow. I’d have spent money to see that haha 😂. Keep it up Bruce; I’m loving these taboo videos brother!
Lol... the moment the cab tilted l said 'reminder to self'
...pressure wash and steam clean running gear before moving vehicle indoors to commence tear down.
Great video.
In Most parts of Europe the 26th IS also national Holiday. So thats why you cannot get anyone on the phone
No one in Europe would EVER put a newer type V8 in a 4 series 😂😂 that's a NO GO. You've still got a lot to learn about Scania and their heritage my friend, the 144 and 164 engine's are ver, very desirable over here because of their sound and performance 😅 you just don't put a newer type engine in a 4 series.... i would rather have the complete engine overhauled than put a newer type V8 in a 4 series, but otherwise great content, Bruce 👍 👌
I think when you become a Scania owner, it's was the best thing you could do for the channel... Keep up your good work!
Looks like there are grooves machined into the head to gasket in the liner area that are meant to keep the seal in place.
Machining the head flat will remove them and it will probably keep blowing head gaskets after that.
I like your videos my friend I got Covid 3 years ago I almost died I drove front discharge concrete trucks ,road tractors pulling dump trailers and tandem dump trucks for 20 years i haven’t been in a truck since and probably never will be able to I just want to say great videos enjoy watching hope you and family has a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 🌲
Yeah I’ve been into
Scanias for 30 year and drove a 143 500 bull nose 1993 when they were the latest thing so I’m enjoying your videos on the v8s .. spot on job your doing
Jumping right in, wasting no time. I bet you don't miss the snow. haha. I'm excited to see this project take off! I love these wrenching videos. Keep me coming.
Come on people let's get Bruce too a million he deserves it. 💯
[2:30] If you put auto-generated subtitles on while Bruce is backing the Scania into the shop, when only the engine can be heard ~ the AI captions the sound literally as [music]... yes, language algorithm, you are indeed right... it IS music, sweet V8 music... 🚛🎶 😄👍
The sweet V8 music by the "Södertälje Symphony Orchestra" 😎 Södertälje is the town where the Scania HQ is, and one of the factories.
Hi Bruce, from past experience I would say it’s a liner seal, really not a big deal on the Scania. Only other thing I would say if you’re doing one, you may as well do the lot job done.
I've worked with Scania for 15 years and did alot of motor repairs and never once machined a cylinder head. Just clean all surfaces that need new gaskets and you're fine. About that liner I would take it out and check it to be safe.
i would agree with the person that said it looks like a sleeve issue to me which sucks but isnt impossible. Love the channel keep up the great work.
what you want to do is pull the liners and on the inside where the top of the liner meets the block check for any corrosion. if the block is corroded down past 4cm of the top youll need to bore it and use oversized liners. if there isnt any corrosion renewing the liner and block orings should do fine to keep the engine from leaking. i would suggest doing all the orings if thats the case tho. it would be much easier to do them all now then to do one or two and come back in a years time to do more.
No, those liners are easily replaceable. If they are worn, just get a new liner, piston and seals and replace it...
@@Tabacish they are easily replaceable it's all the stripping needed to get to replacing the liners that take the time. Also if the block is worn passed a certain point the liner won't seal properly. I'd hope I would know I work at a scania dealership
@@fleimlehner I used to make the liners...
Mostly PDE, HPI and XPI, but also D9, D11 and D14, as spare parts. Can't remember making oversized liners ....
@@Tabacish OK? Just because you didn't make them doesn't mean they don't exist. We just built two DC13s with oversized liners if they don't exist then god help those two lorries
@@fleimlehner Ah, non OEM parts :)
From what I can see the liners appearbto be sunken into the block. I have never built a scania but if this was a detroit we would be measuring liner protrusion and likely be cutting and shimming the block to make the liners stick out like they are supposed to be. Good luck man
Well noted and well said. Actually, this kind of thing happens with Scania engines, and that's how they are repaired
@railasvuo thank you sir. It's a pretty common repair among all manufacturers. I've done the same on Cummins, Cat, Detroit, International, and a few other industrial engines. All part of having a floating sleeve. Even Mack engines with RTV in sleeves walk a little when making bigger power causing the surface that the liner sits on to degrade over time.
@@FxnBoats Exactly. It's just hard for me to explain these sometimes when English is not my first language and it's been a few years since I worked at Scania. But I learned these things there from the mechanics who had been at Scania for 40 years. It was the best time of my life
When you complete the head lock down doesn’t it set the cylinder liner into correct position?
@kennethprocak5176 only if the liner is in the correct position in the block to begin with. Too far down and it won't crush the head gasket properly. Too far up and it will hold the head up off the deck surface. When you rebuild most big diesel engines you use a sled guage to measure how far the liners stick up out of the block to ensure proper sealing against the head surface.
2:01 When I close my eyes and listen to that V8 engine it's as if this video is recorded somewhere in Scandinavia... 😊💯🚚 Lot's of SCANIA's where I live.
Why didn`t you wash the engine before you started to take anything apart? Just look at all the crud that got into ports
'Muricans can be like ..cleanin is fur sissies, this is one of em fancy Euro mothers, it shud be manly enuff for a bit ol' dirt
Jokes aside, there's a new motor coming soon, so, hopefully this engine & engine bay/chassis area will get washed.before transplanting the newe motor and parts, as it is grotty with crud like a soiled babies arse.
Awesome video Bruce. I certainly learned a lot, because of your narrative and tips and pointers.
Those bolts were to easy to undo Bruce. I’d check every head with a torque wrench if I was you. It could cost you by breaking down in a serious manner.
People saying no need machine the head. With
Them being single heads they don’t warp so no machining just thorough cleaning. No need wasting money. Check your liner hight though. Scalia USA should tell you the allowable hight and torque figures you need. Take them all off. If those bolts are not quite correctly torqued down it will eventually cost you new liners and pistons. They really do need checking Bruce.
Agreed user
Was not. With a machine of that size, they leave so easily. Best regards, former Scania mechanic
Pull both liners og replace the seals but also check carefully for any corrosion where the seals sit. Both the liner and the block can corrode. You should also replace all of the rod bearings if you intend to keep the engine for some time, they are usually worn if they haven’t been replaced recently. Main bearings are usually ok. These are very simple and nice engines to work on 😃
hi bruce as a ex HGV fitter trained on scania`s i would say from what iv seen IF THE OIL IS NOT CONTAMINATED WITH WATER / NOT CREAMIE just black , i would say at this stage it look`s like head gasket / seal`s .just check your linner deap`s make sure there both the same
Tough one! Was all stoked to try and track one of these down and have since learned of the difficulties of acquiring one. Such a shame.
American truck manufacturers could learn so mush from these trucks. I’m really surprised Volvo hasn’t put more Euro features on their rigs here.
Probably the industry in America is so behind. The buyer does not want it. Most of the American trucks are owned by European companies. Mercedes, traton and Volvo.
lol buyers WANT ALL THE GADGETS and comfort. its just that murica have the 25 year LAW so everything volvo sells in murica is outdated in europe.. @@magnusE7
@@magnusE7 federal law is also a thing holding back innovation in the us
European Volvo and Amerian Volvo/Mack are two very separate things technically...just like a Scania and Peterbilt for example..Its pity Bruce isnt just a All-truck-guy, there's alot to watch in european Volvo too, especially for american channel fans...lots of Quirks and features, maybe little bit more than in new Scania
A Volvo VNL is Volvo doing Volvo the American way. It does come with the same D13 that is the standard on the Euro continent. D16 option went away in 2009 though. Can't be easy being up against W900 and the Peteys. It's truckers after all, no need to change nothing! 😄
You make my day especially the day after Christmas its the day that nobody uploads
You should become an official USA Importer
The matting as you call it inside the mudguard, if you didn't know, it is to prevent water spray hitting other vehicles, during heavy rain periods. It is a legal requirement in Europe UK and Eire to have these fitted reducing the mist that covers 6 to 10 wide lane motorways operating at 70 mph.
In V8 u should press coolant from the bottom, otherways air wont come out from system...its a law in scania service: if u see a level in coolant tank, pour from top...if u cant see, push from bottom with pump.
When u are a Scania owner, engine is a frequent headache...been there, done that....now with a Volvo only time I remove a valve cover is for adjusting valves and injectors..
Yes I'm watching every minute of every episode. And enjoy it!
21:33 Yeah , gas pressure doesn't really work that way. If you were to put pressure sensors in each of the cylinder's ports , the pressures would be all the same , regardless of which cylinder was closest to the intercooler.
The intake plumbing acts as a plenum chamber.
"A plenum chamber is a pressurised housing containing a fluid at positive pressure. One of its functions is to equalise pressure for more even distribution, compensating for irregular supply or demand. It is typically relatively large in volume and thus has relatively low velocity compared to the system's other components."
Outsmarted by that farmer. He knew when to sell that white elephant!
Bruce .. would say its a,liner seal.. but also check the liner hasn't dropped aswell...
With your brake discs & pads aswell. You maybe lucky to pull the alloy bearing cover off .use a caliper bolt to try to draw it off you may get lucky but you normally end up smashing the bearing cover off so maybe order 2 new bearing covers the plastic nut normally chews up when trying to screw out of the bearing cover..
You don't need to skim the heads either !!!!
normal spot for a leak anyway. two hottest cylnders. I watched a 16L scania get rebuilt here on you tube.. newer engine. dual cams in the block, no pushrods. they mounted them up high in the cradle of the engine...one on each side. monsterous enigne,.makes your cylinders look tiny. Did not expect to see a giant pushrod coming out of there. Old scania.
Maybe it is an O-ring on the liner, that was not installed correctly, or curled up when installed. You don’t need to refurbish the heads, they are basiccaly just a cube of cast iron, and don’t twist with heat. But you have to pull the liner, to install a new set of O-rings.
Hi Bruce Scania’s don’t blow head gaskets if it’s leaking coolant from the heads it’s liner O’rings failure due to corrosion. Check the block for cracks where the liners seat as it’s common You might have to cut the block and go oversized liners if the corrosion is bad.
Tip, when changin oil and filters, pour new oil from opening underneath that spinning oil filter, it's lot faster that way. And there is cardboard thingy available for that spinning filter, so its lot easier to clean.
I am not even a truck guy, but I find your videos very good and informative!
I am not to trucks at all, and I am not interested about vehicle motors. But there is something very interesting in Bruce's videos and ways to explain things (kudos to camera man/woman) that I want to watch everything there is in the video from start to end.
I have always lived among Scania, Volvo etc scandinavian trucks, that I admire their form and design, but I have never had idea to compare them this ways to US made huge trucks.
Hi Bruce, I have been reading UA-cam comments for over 10 years and can tell that you don't need to machine the head.
Also Bruce the dry parts you mention are just how the heads are shaped when on the block that's nothing to worry about
Would still say liner seal.. and possibly liner dropped in the block !!!!
It was the first rig I drove proffesionaly totally.loved it so.much I bought one privately to pull.my.low boy with my purchases
Wear safety glasses! If you often forget, make it a routine to wear them anytime you're in the shop. My brother lost his right eye from using compressed air and got a small metal flake in his eye. It started rusting and caused an infection leaving him with 20% sight left.
I truly hope you and your family had a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Of course, these trucks are designed for large commercial fleets where comprehensive maintenance schedules include engine programs with Scania. You bought this truck cheap and here in OZ we do engine rebuilds every million kms. These rebuilds cost $50k, but you basically get a new engine as part of the program. Its a one day turnaround. They are designed to work 18x7 with proper driver shifts. Then the maintenance costs are amortised in a matter of weeks. Well maintained, they will just keep going indefinitely with factory maintenance. However, it would not be financially viable for a private operator and certainly not a backyard workshop. Its like buying a plane and not keeping up the preventative maintenance.
Have the head crack tested as well ...Definitely have the head skimmed .... check the valve guides....have the valves reseated ....that's what i would do..at least you know that you have a re serviceable cylinder head ....
Definitely looks like maybe someone was into it before and 'rolled' one of those sleeve seals when they were installing them. I think it'll be a good plan to knock both those sleeves out and see what's up with them. Hopefully not a cracked block, but probably unlikely as it doesn't look like it's been overheated.😉
Congratulations Dalton you lucky devil hope make $$ with BC and hit the shows with it!!!
You'll be able to get parts from that place in NJ Abreu truck service I think they're called. He's a Scania specialist.
The multicolored coolant makes me wonder about cavitation wear issues. The proper coolant probably had cavitation preventatives. It will be interesting to see the outside of those liners. Best hopes for you from me.
That was really strange when he drained the coolant 🤔
Very good cameraman👍. That head came off pretty fast, good job.
Can’t beat camera man Ryan… you da man brother Bruce too..
Hi. Bruce , its most likely the orings , replece them and the head gasket , you dont need to machine the head they dont warp when ther individual
Best regards from Sweden
Shame, that I cannot order from your shop to Estonia. But second thing is more positive: There's been a lot of awesome videos with Ylivoimala. Keep it up! :)
Im really interested your channel after you wisited here in Finland and do amazing video with Ylivoimala :D
Bro... Just keep going and do more videos :)
Just subscribed your channel to see the future how Scania fits into a us trailers :D
I usually block the water jacket holes on block n top the water up full n check for seepage if there is ,even if linner has some damage url see it .. best off luck there
The mat inside the wheel arch is for spray suppression and is a legal requirement in Europe. I'm pretty certain that Oskosh import Scania fire appliances into the US for city work so it might be worth seeing if they can source parts for you as a lot of parts are common across the range. As an example Scania made 13 different cab types and they all had the same windscreen.
Excellent comment Paul. I think its just the V8 engines and drivelines but that is all Bruce needs right now. I noticed that the V8s are also used in the Oshkosh Striker 6 x 6 and 4 x 4 fire appliances ...
Pretty sure Oshkosh would do overnight!
It does look like someone has been working on the second head lately. You can see the difference in the gaskets. I would pull the liner and see what the seals are like.🤞 it is easily fixable for you.
Sure looks like it
Cylinder 6 looks like it has definitely had work done to it by the marks on the rocker bolts. Probably not changed the cylinder liner seals and just done a head gasket. It will be a good idea to do the seals in the liner. Make sure you get the proper sequence to tighten the head back down as some heads can be different in sequences. I am sure Ville will probably give you good advice also.
One advice, after driving the truck and the engine is hot, don`t turn the engine directly off.
The turbo needs to cool down, when you turn the engine directly off, the turbo will stay hot and can bend.
To expand the lifetime of your turbo, let the engine run at least for 5 minutes, after driving the truck.
The new found confidence from working with the Jedi’s is shining through, even spills on the shop floor is starting to annoy Bruce. Scania U.S specialists has a good ring to it 👍🏻
first time seeing a clean shop, with clean people working on clean trucks. It is a change for sure. not a lawn tractor after all.
Hands up all those who will never strip a scania, perhaps have limited interest in lorries i have an Agri unimog u430 so find lorries rather tedious in the UK as they hold up Farm traffic, will never but merch or parts as not USA, yet are totally invested in this story
Once again another great video keep up the Amazing Work !! Can't wait to see more!!!!
In Finland there is this crew/family called Herlevi. You might have been seen videos from them, but they are BIG on these Scanias. They make all the horsepower from these in truckpulling and on the road stuff. Might want to buy big mechanical pump for your 144 as a comparison for the EDC pump.
For safety you need a prop to stop the cab from crushing you if it falls back.also venting oil on to the road will sure make you popular with the local bikers ....run it into a big catch can and dispose of it
Ye I dunno if EPA rules from 25 years ago allow for venting CCV oil on the road lol.
I just love that Bruce's phone background is a NextGen Scania :p
Funny noticing Bruce before and after his Scandinavian trip, before: I'm not going to pronounce this, afterwards: rolls right of the tongue
Im sorry that there's an issue with it! I like following your Scania journey as a Brit.
Have you considered doing a Scania engine swap on one of the American cabovers as a project? I think a modern drivetrain in a classic truck would be pretty cool.
how about a cab swap on a complete scania? may be easier.
@@uliwehner true, you'd have all the amenities from the Scania chassis. Just need all the instruments and switches connected up to the older cab.
@@Petriefied0246 that is what i was thinking. not my truck, not my money. I will watch either way.
@@uliwehner we can but dream.
And lock the cabin i think there is a steelrod to stop the cabin to fall backwards if im not out in the space
Nice video Bruce.. and if you ever want alu rims on the truck.. the USA size will not fit but I guess you knew already 😊
Bruce it looks like the sleeve seal is leaking probably In stalled incorrectly. wait until you get your 1000hp and put it in that one but put a second drive axle .Then strip this engine and twin turbo it and put it in the red truck but again second axle. love your channel Bruce.
what you call a grill bar in Australia is called a bull bar as used on road trains in the outback
Hey det kan inte komma olja från toppen av the line det är bra kylvätska där! Kolla ovanför toppen eller cylindertoppen bredvid,
Least I know that you read my comments thanks for pronouncing SCANIA correctly 😊
You don’t normally need to scimm the head it’s normally liner if you pull it out and clean it up re fit it with new seals you put a ring of rtv sealant round the top of the block and clamp the liner down with some steel
blocks into the head bolt holes and leave it overnight then fit the head back on afterwards