right. people are in such insane amounts of denial that its disturbing. can't expect much from the average bear who knows nothing of pedophiles and sociopaths
@@SkywalkerSnape "How many men want to have sex with children but never act on it?!" What a shitty, horrible, inhumane thing to defend. He was a fucking monster.
The father admitted he has pedo tendencies and acted on them twice with 2 boys of friends of the family. Ok…..but there is zero evidence of any child sex ring or his kids involvement. None! The cops just wanted to stretch this out to be hero’s in the media……just like they did to the poor McMartin family
@pinkpugginz, usually the victims are the own children, and denial is what has kept them on a level of “sanity”. Also, the outright rejection of the mother shows “parent alienation”, a condition well established in marriages where an abusive and narcissistic parent rally the children through punishment or fear of punishment and reward as a way to make them hate the other parent, so they can have their way without the other parent ever knowing what’s going on.
Fun fact: Henry Jarecki & his son Andrew produced the film & both are listed in Epstein's little black book. Henry was on the flight log as well. They also own 2 private islands near his.
Not only that the Jareckis paid for the Friedmans legal appeals. Almost as if some sort of in group nepotism exists amongst these people and they use their access to media to poison the well
I've never heard or seen a grown man as immature and self unaware as David. Completely fails to recognise the emotions and understands behaviour in others also. Something wrong with that dude, he seems the most unstable of the lot.
I watched it and drew the conclusion both were guilty and the two victims who spoke were just ashamed and wanted to rewrite history for their own sake. Interesting to know my conclusions were right. The way the sons heckle the mom in the home videos just killed me
Well the police could easily enough have testedJessies descriptions of what had happened by comparing his statements with the evidence. But yeah, there were no evidence. Only kids coerced statements.
@@helenestiernstrand6575 hundreds of images of child sexual abuse imagery in the home. many statements. both perpetrators admitting it in court. jesses own lawyers statements. arnolds statements about raping his own brother and being worried about molesting his children. arnold admitting to his wife and in therapy what he had done to other children. but yeah its all made up right? people like you are why victims never want to come forward.
The mom being demeaned by the boys in the family while being the very model of a devoted Jewish mother was something else. Almost like they had a sick game of treating her like a stupid, devalued servant. And, yes, even with all the heaps of bias the movie had I could tell they were guilty. It's like their guilt radiated outside the narrative and they could TRY to hide it but it was so obvious.
It was obvious that there was a significant amount of information left out of that film. What I find almost comical is if they made this film mainly to prove their innocence, It was a very poor job of it. I still came away from this knowing that they were guilty of all this and much more. I find this very frustrating that it took this long for this information to come out and that the case is so old. So many of these people are dead now, making it near impossible to go back and re-investigate.
Yes, agree. ¿ 🤔 docu made to set up Jessie's appeal? •IMO】 if J knew then imo Seth & David knew: Jessie makes the confession & does the time; David aka "I'm an As_holê when not a clown bedazzling kids wet with balloon tricks". makes docu after dad d³th to set up doubt & future exculpation.
@@MondoBeno I agree that she wasn’t/isn’t a very happy woman but I definitely think it’s more complicated than outright hating her sons. The family dynamics were fashioned in a way that the sons were villainizing the mother and it was a very “us” (the boys and Arnold) vs her situation. When one parent encourages or allows the children to gang up on and ostracize the other parent resentment can understandably be created on the part of the parent that’s happening to. Children often have a very binary view of things and so it can easily become one parent being 100% good and the other being 100% bad with no in between or nuanced ability to want to find a middle ground. And that’s in situations not involving serious child sex abuse and charges. I imagine it was a horrible situation for her in terms of feeling entirely rejected by her children, which I think would be devastating for any mother. I think she enabled and turned a blind eye regarding what was going on with her husband’s crimes and that’s extremely upsetting, especially since her children could have been or possibly were victims as well. It’s all deeply troubling.
@@charlottecobain6986 You're right, the contempt her sons have for her must've been going on for some time. But she's also very conflict-averse, to the point where she isn't even assertive. It's her home, and she should've be tolerating her grown son talking to her like that.
When i was molested, I told people about it, after I was in trouble for speaking out, I said it wasn't true. I did this because I was embarrassed, scared and saw that no one believed me anyways. You lose trust in people. This is a real way people deal with things.
I brought myself to tell only when I was 45 and to my astonishment, no one asked who the perpetrator was. Then I thought there must have been more victims and a known perpetrator in the family and no one ever was willing to take action. With that, all my aging uncles, aunts, and mother became smaller and smaller and finally turned into a bunch of helpless wasted pitiful beings. I was the only grown-up person in the room.
All those family home movies taken to show a happy-go-lucky family clowning around at the beach seemed sinister and fake. At times even inappropriate, such as when Seth was dancing around outside the courthouse.
There are interviews with two of the parents. And 'victims' who withdrew their allegations. Not the many others (at least 13) who retracted their allegations. I've been following this since the documentary first came out. Jarecki should definitely do a sequel. He is an award winning filmmaker who did a massive deep dive into this story and was committed to Jesse's innocence.
Because the parents were not victimized, the children were. Having said that, they did have one parent there and he stated clearly as did his son that there was no sexual assault.
@@Solistastyle OK, Jesse. Or Jesse's wife. Those non victims who you said recanted their statements actually did not recant their statements and that's been proven in a court of law. Only one recanted and that is the one who lied about being put under hypnosis. His therapist attested to the fact that she never, ever put him under therapy in a sworn affidavit statement. I only wish I could be there when you meet your maker and end up going to hell to spend eternity in a pit of fire.
@@Solistastyle Way to go. Defend the pedophile. He certainly didn't do it. He only had illegal pornography, he only abused his brother multiple times, he only "slipped" when he was middle aged a couple of times. Sure he "slipped" but not THAT TIME! That's insane y'know?
If the documentary was supposed to cast doubt on what happened, they did a bad job. It was hard not to think they were sickos even after all they said. If anything, it really showed how horrible they were to the matriarch of the family.
I'm so happy for this video... I just watched 'Capturing the Friedmans' a few minutes ago. But I still had questions, even after a 2 hour documentary. Something just felt off. I knew the father was a phedo but I was unsure of Jesse. This video cleared it up for me. So thanks for creating it ❤
Can we talk about how the uncle is so incredibly unstable appearing? He seems like AF’s huband not his brother. And he seems on the verge of utter emotional collapse every time he’s interviewed. It’s ODD.
@@TK-ij2xi Oh, you're right. I thought perhaps his abuse had led to his orientation. That does happen sometimes. It may have still effected him, but I'm not knowledgable enough in this field. Thanks...
I don't know what the motive was in making the documentary, intended or not I think it opens eyes and makes people think. For too long this stuff has been tabu, kept quiet, people thought it happened rarely and only by some creepy uncle or a guy with a puppy and a van. This was a wealthy well educated family living in a wealthy part of the world. A mom and dad, a couple kids, celebrations, lots of joking around. They don't look like the damaged family they really are. This happens everywhere, it isn't uncommon. Again not sure the film intended this but the attempts to create doubt only made me more sure. The people defending felt like apologists. The boys were obviously manipulated to hate their mother, A even manipulated his own brother, that man damaged so many people, and all those Childrens childhoods ruined, so sad, all of it just a big mess.
I watched the doc and got a feeling they were trying to create a little doubt but for affect, to create tension, I didn't think it was apologetic, the footage revealed obvious deep dysfunction and that poor mother, my gawd she was abused by every man in that house. I am glad she has the house to herself and I hope she found some peace in her life. After watching what was left out I am still on the fence about why it was left out, I left the doc feeling very sure they were both guilty. I thought in the beginning the son said he died of a heart attack? I was a little angry he killed himself, left everyone else with the pain, grief, and damage. He could have written a book or helped police and early intervention specialists so they could understand the pedo mind, learn how they manipulate and groom, figure out how to catch or prevent this from happening. Instead he checked out. This really happens and it happens a lot, and these people have friends, communities and have even more access via the internet. This is awful, children should be cherished and protected.
That film did have his Uncle saying that Arnie Friedman told him that Jessie was guilty.. Arnie's lawyer also states in it that Arnie admitted his guilt & at a prison visit asked to move tables because the 5 year old at the next table was "getting him too excited"
Uncle admitted he remember the abuse he suffered by his brother Arnold to the conviction integrity investigators. He also said Arnold confessed to him and told him Jesse was guilty. blogs.brown.edu/recoveredmemory/files/2013/06/Conviction-Integrity-Review-People-v-Jesse-Friedman-FINAL.pdf
I've just watched the whole film and cannot recall Arnold's brother stating that and instead I think he states the opposite. Also, it was Jesse's lawyer who Arnold said he was becoming aroused from a boy at the next table & no he didn't admit to the crimes he was convicted of but rather other crimes he was not convicted of.
@@SigmaEdits2015 You are correct. It’s not in the film. It’s in the Conviction Integrity report linked above but I’ll link it again so you can read it. blogs.brown.edu/recoveredmemory/files/2013/06/Conviction-Integrity-Review-People-v-Jesse-Friedman-FINAL.pdf
One of the sons, Seth was not interested in participating in the film, or agreed to be interviewed. What does he not want to talk about from his perspective? Thanks for making this. It shows that there's more to the story going on.
When you admit to the court that you've done the crime they accuse you of then you are guilty...period then to give details on what was done it's a no-brainer nobody can make you Converse to the a crime that you didnt do but if you do you deserve the same
@@christinevieth4883 Agree: Confess in Trial Court= conviction . I think the odd absence of material in F-docu is very telling and makes the docu suspiciously like a set-up for Jessie to base his appeal on. Side-note『 However, (and not relevant in Friedman docu) I Do think that coerced confessions Can & have happened in interrogations. 【@Chase Hughes for explanation on how, & also their is a Netflix show about one - & creator on YT breaks it down (@Spidey on Behavioral Arts)】
Seth surely didn't want his life's greatest pain to be unearthed and to be again utterly destroyed by it. Imagine how long it takes to dig yourself out of such a tragedy, only to then realize you're still underground and it's where you'll always be. I think it must be so painful and heartbreaking - I believe that he likely just could not bring himself to do it. I think that this is just as likely as anything else.
Update: April 2024-Jessie is now out of prison and married. His last appeal for a retrial was denied based on more information coming to light about Jessie's abuse. He still claims to be innocent but this portion of Geraldo put the nail into his coffin of freedom. They also deemed the documentary to be biased and said that the director tried to cleanse Jessie's name. His mom Elaine remarried and died in 2019.
My question would be when did Geraldo ever do anything and any good came of it. The second question would be was Jesse paid for the interview. I was once told ,If you want to see a rabbit coat turn into a sabel lose the rabbit coat.there was homeowners insurance. I'm sure there were lawsuits. In the last 20 yrs having seen 500 convictions overturned from corruption by DA'S and police. I can't believe stacks of porn laying around the house in the open and parents were popping in and out the house. None of the parents saw any of the porn. People are nosey they look around your house. A lot of money changed hands, promotions were given. Communities have been burned, black people killed in mass. Black men lynched all for lie's and property. I'm a little skeptical about the whole thing.
He likely knew he was up against peoples opinions of how he was suppose to act and re act. I believed him fully despite my belief that sexual assaults did take place.
@@truegemrn Because it was done to him & he has shame & embarrassment. This is a PURE assumption going by behavior - I'm not saying he was victimized....only that his behavior hints at it.
I wrote this on the doc, so I'm going to say it here too. It amazes me that almost 300K people watched the doc, but only about 9K have seen this part. Either, they didn't read the description, or had no idea that this video was a "part 2" unofficially. I'm so glad you put this together & showed this. There were WAY to many red flags in that documentary for me. David is full of rage, hate, resentment, & anger. It makes me question him, even more. & why wasn't Seth involved in the doc? I mean he had to have given permission to use his face in all of those videos & pictures, right? So why is he out of it now? Does he think they did it? I have so many questions!
I don't think either did what they were charged with. At all. And I think the people in the comments are irrational when it comes to David, who didn't do anything. Either that or they have an irrational fear of clowns.
@@QuinnieMae If you don't mind elaborating, how did you come to those conclusions. Either they didn't do it, the people in the comments, are irrational about David & or have an irrational fear of clowns? Can you explain more about what you mean by that... just curious.
This "man" was scathing towards his own mother during that time! Not to mention, he was outside the courthouse clowning around as though he had not a care in the entire world regarding his and his father's heinous crimes against youth. Sickening. I understand he was a victim, but his overall attitude did little to polish up his image. Personally, I would never fully trust anything he says. 🖐🏼
The Geraldo thing absolutely was included in the dvd and commented on by Jesse Friedman. He claims that his appearance on the show was part of his lawyer’s strategy to obtain leniency during the appeal process
@@KaiUchiha15 he probably means leniency at the sentencing or more likely leniency at parole hearings, since the interview appears to be during his time in prison.
Ok, now this makes sense. I was really confused while watching the documentary because it felt as if they were attempting to cast a lot of doubt on their guilt even though there was obviously child p0rn and confessions to misconduct.
I have to say one point here is not accurate. I knew cp was found. I believe it was in Arnold's office? However, it is a very big deal that an officer grossly overstated how much and that it was stacked a foot high in the living room , out for all to see. That is a lie. And if you tell one lie could you not tell 2 or maybe even 3. It is important.
It was in the living room. That’s where the piano was. The one stack that they found was about a foot high but I didn’t see multiple stacks found a foot high.
🤔LE made return visits. We don't know when all photos were taken. "In plain view" was said. Wife said piano in basement by the office. Computer class was also in basement. // "Piano was in living room". - could be lack of continuity explanation from DF. I have questions. I think there are some omissions. I am prone to believe the Leo's. And all convictions warranted. Perhaps maybe a few missing: re:NYT; "J's had friends come over for __" ~also think that cp crimes were often ¿..? & the fact that they didn't sweep this under the rug is telling.
@8:20 there are 3 voices - Female Narrator, Female LE, David F's voice which is spliced in there. It sounds like LE is lying buy it is David who posts empty photos after LE says "stacks in open view". I think you accidentally fell for David's portrayal and missed the point this docu was proving. Namely that; the Fried docu Film left Out/ misrepp'ed some things.
@@Nephthys-ness I don't think so. I've been following this case for about 6 years now. I've watched and read, at least all I know that exists. As well as some court transcripts I could get my hands on. At least one officer testifys to the large amount out in the open in living room. However, I will Def keep digging.
No Arnold's wife said he would look at child pornography as meditation I'm like really are you that naive?! So for all his son's to see that they grew up most likely all being groomed by their father most likely they won't admit it, it's sad
The way Jesse behaved the day before his jail sentence and then the day of is cringe now that i hear him own up to what he did here. He really did that and then their father brainwashed him and his brothers to go against the mother. That explains why the other brother wasn't a part of the documentary. My God! The father was a total creep!!!! It makes you look at the home videos differently. In one of them you could almost see fear in one of those kids eyes as soon as he saw his father come in with the video recording. OMG!!!
It is interesting to see this now. After watching the documentary, it was clear to me that is was very biased. It was a clear attempt to make it appear as if the family was innocent. Even before viewing this part, I did not believe what the family was saying. The only one that was somewhat believable to me was the mother, but I believe she knew much more than she claimed. To me, it was clear that all three brothers were abused, and were in denial about what happened. It is highly unlikely that an admitted pedophile with unfettered access to children would never commit any crimes against those children. Though I am unsure of the scope of what happened, I was fully convinced of their guilt after watching the documentary, and this clip left me even more convinced of that fact.
@@pumpkingirl4229 I actually watched his interview a couple ti,es. It is very obvious that things were done to this boy/young man in this video. They way he is sitting for one and yes I believe he is grinding that parlor chair. It’s very sad to be honest. Shows how mush these POS hurt these kids
I fully agree with the points raised in this video. I also wondered whether or not the director asked the brothers point blank if they were ever molested or groomed by their father. The second point, the one victim interviewed on camera was filmed in such a way that is designed to discredit him. In journalism, all subjects (especially on such a subject matter) should be interviewed sitting up as a sign of respect to the interviewee and the craft. But half lying down is a silent way to discredit the interviewee. It gives the viewer the impression that the person isn’t taking his own abuse seriously, so neither should the viewer. Also, he never asked the interviewee, why he never told anyone about the interview until the police came. This would have given insight into the secrecy abuse is surrounded by especially in the 1980s when talking about it was discouraged.
I am usually very open-minded when considering someone's guilt on something like this. I usually want to believe in innocence. I didn't even have to see this Part 2 to know what went on. WAY too many massively waving red flags and admissions.
I found it difficult to believe some of the stories about what happened to the kids and there being no physical evidence of said things happening. But clearly, the abuse happened. At times it felt like Jesse and Arnold were being themselves and telling the truth when they were away from the pressure of the fantasy land they/David had created within the family home
Small hats protecting small hats. Notice they left out Ross Goldstein's conviction as well as if it didn't help paint the whole picture of what went on.
I believed the woman detective lied through most of her conversation. Mrs Friedman had said the piano was in the office downstairs so when the detective said the living room I knew she was lying.
While I believe there was indeed child pornography, I would not base anything on the Police Officers account. She was clearly bias and exaggerating if not out right lying at times. Sadder still, she struck me like many in the field do in that I think she believed her own assumptions and that her biases were warranted. The child porn was fact because the father stated that he had child porn.
Perhaps her recollection is of a living room, as opposed to the family who viewed the basement room as “Arnold’s office” and was likely a downstairs room that a family might call a “family room” or a “rec room” back in the 80s. Perhaps she did not deliberately lie…
The mother in this documentary was no fan of the father…..so if the house was piled and stacked to the ceiling with child pornographic material then that mom is going to say so.
The idea that an 8 year old child was raped anally during his 2 hour class and then being picked up a happy contented child by his parents..... needed to be addressed. I suspect biased Police conduct was the cause of the exaggeration as is seen in the comments from the Police Officer but, injecting hysteria and bias into the situation never gets us closer to the truth.
Predators know how to get someone relaxed beforehand. Spoiling a victim afterwards would make them leave happy. Use your brain before you dismiss abuse.
@@roleat Having been raped repeatedly as a prepubescent child, I know exactly what happens physically when an adult anally rapes a boy child..... It can not be wished away with "spoiling the child" for a few minutes after the rape. Talk to a Survivor about how they physically responded to anal rape within a 2 hour period. Not one will tell you about the Happiness they felt from being spoilt. Try using your brain before you spew your bullshit online.
McMartin case all over again. My take - the child porn was the reason the father didnt dare to go to trial because it would just taint the jury. And the son was just collateral damage. In the McMartin case the police n authorities managed to get the son a guilty sentance on zero evidense and no confession. This hysteria ruins peoples lives - just look at the West Memfis three. They were innocent boys, zero evidence and one of them got death sentance on wearing black t-shirt n listening to Metallica.
In Capturing the Friedmans - they DO say that porn was found (contrary to what is said by the narrator of this video) - and his wife agrees with this - she agrees that the child porn was in his office in the basement behind a piano (hidden). And his wife also says that it was not upstairs... which is what the pictures show.
Glad for this follow up. I watched it long ago and felt they were guilty. I really hate poorly done documentaries, biased ones, etc. Like Apple TV's documentary, The Line, (about Navy Seal Ed Gallagher, who killed the 17 year old captive and enjoyed shooting at citizens, children). The Line was terrible because the filmmakers did NOT question the insane things done and said! They didn't challenge Gallagher, and lots of people thought he was innocent or that killing civilians is no big deal. We really need integrity, honesty, and thoroughness in documentaries...not this pile of slanted documentaries inept people keep cranking out. It's really disappointing when it seems a documentary is just a tool to protect offenders. I guess we have to investigate the filmmakers' motives and connection to their subjects now. I really like this youtube channel. They expose a lot of important situations. Will def donate. Peace
I don't know if they were guilty or not. I'm trying to wrap my head around all those kids being raped and parents not noticing anything - blood, kids in pain from being sodomized, stained undergarments etc. And not one, not just one kid went home and said anything? These little kids kept all this secret? Parents didn't notice behavioral changes or acting out? The kids were never afraid to go back for more lessons?
They were threatened. The father threatened them and told them that if they told, everybody's life would be ruined and he also threatened the kids families and told them he would burn down their homes. Jesse also threatened them.
My mom and grandma out of my family were very attentive and should’ve noticed things easily but I was threatened by the older high school boys on my bus (I was still very young in elementary school) that if anyone ever found out they’d kill my family and pets etc etc so I became good at hiding everything nobody ever found out til I told them when they were long gone and I was in my twenties. I obviously took that threat very seriously so no matter what they did to me how much pain I was in physically/emotionally if I was around my parents I was very conscious of myself.
It happens all the time. Kids do not feel powerful like they can change things and often accept whatever life they’re living as how life is supposed to be. Also, these things happen little by little over time. And there’s a lot of spoiling and fun to where the kids often don’t want to get the perpetrator in trouble. There is so much psychological manipulation you just can’t imagine if you’ve never been there. These psychopaths are master manipulators.
Um.... my thing is if Jesse went on Geraldo and gave an interview describing what possibly went on knowing none of it was true why not try to set the record straight? Why keep telling the lie if it's not true? He sounds guilty
One thing though, like Jesse said, why would the abused children kept coming back and even re-enroll? I could understand they fear not to tell anyone but they could tell their parents, they did not feel like going back to take computer classes. Was that asked from them? I cant imagine my parents forcing me to do something I did not want to do. Were these classes part of a school program? Or was it extra curriculum? I may have missed that somewhere.
You clearly don't understand how abuse works, the immature brains and thus decisions of children, and the shame involved. I was sexually abused and shut down completely about what happened. I also lacked the vocabulary to talk about it. That said, you don't know if children protested but were shut down by their parents.
Sorry but lets face it the police lawyers and judges aint going to admit they got it wrong and as for the brother he was adamant his brother was not guilty money must have changed his mind, Mo examining the kids by doctors this case has far to many holes.
8:07 ok wait.. the wife would HAVE to have been able to see that! I thought she was in denial but if this is also true, which I’m sure it is because a detective working with many other detectives wouldn’t lie about it on TV and lose their job for one thing
I agree. When the victim is used as an offender and then treated solely as the Offender by Police who were clearly biased and dishonest, there is no room for truth. Everyone has to cover their own ass.
I did not feel sorry for this mother. She did not protect her children from her sicko husband or the kids coming into her pornography filled house. wht? She was emotionally stiff and uncaring.
The impression I got from her was that she was dissociative. The way she just had that thousand yard stare. I think the severity of the situation could've been too much for her to bear and she just lost her grip on things.
I agree, from what I remember ( this being years ago I saw the film) I remember the mother being highly neurotic but consistently being analyzed, and found wanting or failing her numerous roles within the family sphere. Reduced to a family whipping boy. That doesn't infrere that she is free of criticism. She obviously had some abstract understanding that her husband was not the man she assumed, and to keep suburbia family cohesion she turned a blind eye. There is also something very anti-female that runs through the majority of the family. I feel like they have reduced their mother down to a Jewish mother stereotype and their is a disdain they have towards her, but this malice is lacking towards the father. Who used his gentle, friendly demeanor as a ruse to engage in his predation. @@anacardoso9822
Jessie was innocent he only pled guilty in the hope of getting a shorter sentence but obviously it didn't work. The police corruption was beyond belief in this case. The family were brave to film thier experiences during this terrible time.
Regardless of the facts of the case, the police weren’t trained in proper interview techniques which can thoroughly destroy a case. Hopefully police departments today have a much better understanding of proper methods for the sake of the children and the accused.
I've noticed the programs from the "computer class" in the evidence log near the end of this video. Clearly someone was trying to groom these children.
Hold on, so you're telling me that there was no physical evidence? No luminol scan in the supposed rooms where attacks are said to have happened? No complaints or even suspicions from all of parents prior to police knocking on their doors? & pray tell me about what pornography on a computer looked like in the 80's. Did it even exist? Maybe they did do it, but the evidence was flimsy AT BEST. They should've rolled the dice with a jury.
19 year old defendant brow beaten by his panicked, humiliated, inexperienced mother…she was fearful of a sentence that could last decades and wanted him to take a plea. Bad legal advice from a person without good background for this kind of situation.
The Jareckis own two islands near Epstein's "Little Saint James." The Jareckis appear in Epstein's "Little Black Book." The Jareckis are on Epstein's flight logs.
its not a question of who do you believe it is a question of which pieces are true and which aren't. At least some of it is true, but not all of it is true if you ask me. "Trumped up charges" could mean they were accused to raping 50 kids but actually only raped 49, not really worth mentioning. But also "Trumped up charges" could mean the police saw the CP, and saw there was a class, and just assumed the kids got raped each time they were there. I think the answer is between those two extremes. Plea deals on guilty subject don't represent the truth by design, it's either less than what really happened so they take it, or way more than what really happened so they don't try to fight it. The truth is in the middle.
Polaroids?? And not one was found. Although the family clearly had large volumes of visual family recordings... Not one piece of visual evidence of these allegations.
I find it hard to believe. Seems like they made an example of this family. Made it more sensational than it really was. I Believe a lot of people have sick fantasies, fetishes but they don't act on it. How many guys look at porn but they do not become rapists. What got me convinced is that they were innocent is the fact that none of these boys had bloody pants that a mother would find doing their laundry. No evidence of rape. Rape is violent. Id any of these boys were raped, they would never go back to that class. My piano was a strict nun and she cut my nails so close to the skin, I never returned to that class again. I begged my mom I never wanted to go back and that's just fingernails. The victim in the interview who said he remembered through hypnosis but the psychologist denied he was ever hypnotized?!?? Honestly think these victims are mentally unstable and have the sadistic tendencies themselves. I feel bad for this family.
I would like to know for sure that the pornography was underage boys. and not young men pretending. I would like to hear the interviews with the children.
Im not sure what to think. It sounds very sus that not one kid said anything until approached and agressively interrogated by cops telling them they will be gay if they wont admit s a happened... It seems that it all stemed from usps contraband check... On the other hand not only their lawyer admited they both addmitted but also arnolds brother and jessies uncle who said that jesse admitted to him that some of it eas true... Not my crowd of people either way
My full comments are not being permitted to be posted here. They are less than 10K in words. Censorship 🤔 This 10 min video is filled with absolute rubbish. All of these issues have been addressed on freejesse site, with supporting legal documents. Eg. 1. The suggestion that the victim who was interviewed in the film got it wrong that he was hypnotised is also inaccurate. (@7:29) a. If he did get it wrong, his credibility on the alleged abuse is equally wrong. b. In any event the evidence is not inconsistent. Jesse's conviction was in 1988. So the events alleged to have occurred would have preceded that date. The affidavit in this clip was signed in 2004 by the psychiatrist. That victim was a child when it allegedly happened. He would have seen multiple psychiatrists. Just because one of them signed an affidavit 16 years later saying he wasn't the one who used hypnosis, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. 2. The film did not create a 'false impression that the second search revealed nothing'. @8:09 the police evidence was that "foot high stacks of pornography" were all around the house. This is so grossly exaggerated by the police that it is a blatant lie. @8:22 the list of items not to be returned to the Friedman's following a search were some film reels. Magazine covers.Some porn mags. In a house of 4 men. Not multitudes of child porn. The photos do not imply nothing was found. They simply juxtapose the police officers gross exaggeration. 3. The suggestion that Jareki was dishonest about the number of witnesses he spoke to, in this video, is again inaccurate.As is the suggestion that he avoided speaking to the others. Two of the 13 victims at that time were represented in the documentary. Jareki said he spoke to more than 3 in an interview, and 5 in an affidavit. So how is this inconsistent? He spoke to about 5 victims. Which is more than 3. And 2 of them agreed to go on film. People with implanted memories become victims. The memories are as if they are real. Which is why it is VERY dangerous to question children like this. This is now a heavily regulated area of law because of the damage done to so many children in so many cases. There is a large volume of studies conducted on this phenomena. It is completely unsurprising that the other victims he contacted wouldn't want to talk to him and reasonable that he stopped at 5 because that was enough for a documentary of this length.
What I want to know though is if this was all done with computers why were they not able to check ? Even now? Like they have to be in evidence. That was just a thought I had.
What do you mean? There's a lot of evidence from the computers available. Devon Stack, on odysee, did a podcast on this documentary and personally went through and showed the hundreds of grooming games on the computers. It's quite horrible.
The one that describes what happened during the leap frog game doesn't ring true any child sexually abused feel's dirty and ashamed certainly wouldn.t relive their abuse using the kind of words he used.
Unless he’s drunk or high out of his mind, I’ve talked very freely and unusually about trauma when I was wasted on liquor and Xanax or high on H and Xanax.
No. The most important question is not ”what was left out” its what is the evidence. Thats the most important question. And there were none. Just two people scared n facing lifetime in prison with zero chanse of getting a fair trial. A mother n wife who demanded they confess in order to 1: save the son 2: get a leniant sentance. This clip is just nonsensical. The documentary never stated that there were no child porn in the house at all. It contested the false claim that it was overflowing the house.
For full documentary: ua-cam.com/video/FI6klfnQkIY/v-deo.html
This 10 minute video explains far more than the almost 2 hour “documentary” ever did.
Right on!
You ain't lying! 💯💯💯
Agreed! I wonder what else was left out of other documentaries 😕
The tribe always sticks together
first of all there is no way these men are innocent if they had child porn in their possession. You don't think AF acted on his impulses.
right. people are in such insane amounts of denial that its disturbing. can't expect much from the average bear who knows nothing of pedophiles and sociopaths
Boom...glad someone said it
How many men have porn and not become a rapist. People have fantasies and fetishes but never act on it.
@@SkywalkerSnape "How many men want to have sex with children but never act on it?!"
What a shitty, horrible, inhumane thing to defend. He was a fucking monster.
The father admitted he has pedo tendencies and acted on them twice with 2 boys of friends of the family. Ok…..but there is zero evidence of any child sex ring or his kids involvement. None! The cops just wanted to stretch this out to be hero’s in the media……just like they did to the poor McMartin family
It's insane to me how many people are in denial of pedophilia
@pinkpugginz, usually the victims are the own children, and denial is what has kept them on a level of “sanity”. Also, the outright rejection of the mother shows “parent alienation”, a condition well established in marriages where an abusive and narcissistic parent rally the children through punishment or fear of punishment and reward as a way to make them hate the other parent, so they can have their way without the other parent ever knowing what’s going on.
i would never leave my kids alone with David Friedman, Jesse Friedman, or Andrew Jarecki, just saying
and the creepy AF Clown brother. There is way more to this story than we will ever know
Fun fact: Henry Jarecki & his son Andrew produced the film & both are listed in Epstein's little black book. Henry was on the flight log as well. They also own 2 private islands near his.
How do you know this?
Wow where did you find that out at?!
Not only that the Jareckis paid for the Friedmans legal appeals. Almost as if some sort of in group nepotism exists amongst these people and they use their access to media to poison the well
Wow…
Can you please provide link or evidence to this? Just like to look in deeper
I've never heard or seen a grown man as immature and self unaware as David. Completely fails to recognise the emotions and understands behaviour in others also. Something wrong with that dude, he seems the most unstable of the lot.
I agree! He seems the most in denial!
Arrested development from being molested
I liked him a great deal. I don't think, based on the film, he's any more unstable than our last president or John Lennon or Whoopi Goldberg.
@@QuinnieMae exactly lol
He reminds me of john wayne gacy the clown
I watched it and drew the conclusion both were guilty and the two victims who spoke were just ashamed and wanted to rewrite history for their own sake. Interesting to know my conclusions were right. The way the sons heckle the mom in the home videos just killed me
Well the police could easily enough have testedJessies descriptions of what had happened by comparing his statements with the evidence. But yeah, there were no evidence. Only kids coerced statements.
@@helenestiernstrand6575 hundreds of images of child sexual abuse imagery in the home. many statements. both perpetrators admitting it in court.
jesses own lawyers statements.
arnolds statements about raping his own brother and being worried about molesting his children.
arnold admitting to his wife and in therapy what he had done to other children.
but yeah its all made up right? people like you are why victims never want to come forward.
The mom being demeaned by the boys in the family while being the very model of a devoted Jewish mother was something else. Almost like they had a sick game of treating her like a stupid, devalued servant. And, yes, even with all the heaps of bias the movie had I could tell they were guilty. It's like their guilt radiated outside the narrative and they could TRY to hide it but it was so obvious.
@@helenestiernstrand6575 was* no
That did me in like she all of a sudden the bad guy..smh
It was obvious that there was a significant amount of information left out of that film. What I find almost comical is if they made this film mainly to prove their innocence, It was a very poor job of it. I still came away from this knowing that they were guilty of all this and much more. I find this very frustrating that it took this long for this information to come out and that the case is so old. So many of these people are dead now, making it near impossible to go back and re-investigate.
The father looks like he can't be honest with his family, and the mother is a very angry woman. She sounds like she hated her sons.
They did reinvestigate the case - blogs.brown.edu/recoveredmemory/files/2013/06/Conviction-Integrity-Review-People-v-Jesse-Friedman-FINAL.pdf
Yes, agree. ¿ 🤔 docu made to set up Jessie's appeal?
•IMO】 if J knew then imo Seth & David knew: Jessie makes the confession & does the time; David aka "I'm an As_holê when not a clown bedazzling kids wet with balloon tricks". makes docu after dad d³th to set up doubt & future exculpation.
@@MondoBeno I agree that she wasn’t/isn’t a very happy woman but I definitely think it’s more complicated than outright hating her sons. The family dynamics were fashioned in a way that the sons were villainizing the mother and it was a very “us” (the boys and Arnold) vs her situation. When one parent encourages or allows the children to gang up on and ostracize the other parent resentment can understandably be created on the part of the parent that’s happening to. Children often have a very binary view of things and so it can easily become one parent being 100% good and the other being 100% bad with no in between or nuanced ability to want to find a middle ground. And that’s in situations not involving serious child sex abuse and charges. I imagine it was a horrible situation for her in terms of feeling entirely rejected by her children, which I think would be devastating for any mother. I think she enabled and turned a blind eye regarding what was going on with her husband’s crimes and that’s extremely upsetting, especially since her children could have been or possibly were victims as well. It’s all deeply troubling.
@@charlottecobain6986 You're right, the contempt her sons have for her must've been going on for some time. But she's also very conflict-averse, to the point where she isn't even assertive. It's her home, and she should've be tolerating her grown son talking to her like that.
When i was molested, I told people about it, after I was in trouble for speaking out, I said it wasn't true. I did this because I was embarrassed, scared and saw that no one believed me anyways. You lose trust in people. This is a real way people deal with things.
it's an awful thing that happened to you. it's the reason most victims tell no one. it's another form of abuse.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Hope you're doing okay now. ❤
I brought myself to tell only when I was 45 and to my astonishment, no one asked who the perpetrator was. Then I thought there must have been more victims and a known perpetrator in the family and no one ever was willing to take action. With that, all my aging uncles, aunts, and mother became smaller and smaller and finally turned into a bunch of helpless wasted pitiful beings. I was the only grown-up person in the room.
@@saneman751bless you for posting this
The father and son look guilty AF, in a documentary that was designed to make them look innocent… wow.
All those family home movies taken to show a happy-go-lucky family clowning around at the beach seemed sinister and fake. At times even inappropriate, such as when Seth was dancing around outside the courthouse.
The documentary wasn't designed to make them look innocent at all. That would've been impossible.
😂
@@junemarshall-kingsley566frreal
I think these sex offenders should be in prison for life with no parole. They tend to reoffend if they are let out
During this entire documentary I felt so sorry and angry on behalf of the mother.
And how can that documentary claim any kind of accuracy when they don’t provide any interviews with the parents of the victims?
Agreed. It only films two individuals anonymously
There are interviews with two of the parents. And 'victims' who withdrew their allegations. Not the many others (at least 13) who retracted their allegations.
I've been following this since the documentary first came out.
Jarecki should definitely do a sequel. He is an award winning filmmaker who did a massive deep dive into this story and was committed to Jesse's innocence.
Because the parents were not victimized, the children were. Having said that, they did have one parent there and he stated clearly as did his son that there was no sexual assault.
@@Solistastyle OK, Jesse. Or Jesse's wife. Those non victims who you said recanted their statements actually did not recant their statements and that's been proven in a court of law.
Only one recanted and that is the one who lied about being put under hypnosis. His therapist attested to the fact that she never, ever put him under therapy in a sworn affidavit statement.
I only wish I could be there when you meet your maker and end up going to hell to spend eternity in a pit of fire.
@@Solistastyle Way to go. Defend the pedophile. He certainly didn't do it. He only had illegal pornography, he only abused his brother multiple times, he only "slipped" when he was middle aged a couple of times.
Sure he "slipped" but not THAT TIME! That's insane y'know?
If the documentary was supposed to cast doubt on what happened, they did a bad job. It was hard not to think they were sickos even after all they said. If anything, it really showed how horrible they were to the matriarch of the family.
I'm so happy for this video... I just watched 'Capturing the Friedmans' a few minutes ago. But I still had questions, even after a 2 hour documentary. Something just felt off. I knew the father was a phedo but I was unsure of Jesse. This video cleared it up for me. So thanks for creating it ❤
I watched it last night and was left feeling like the Friedman's were innocent!!! Until I saw this video 5 min.ago
Can we talk about how the uncle is so incredibly unstable appearing? He seems like AF’s huband not his brother. And he seems on the verge of utter emotional collapse every time he’s interviewed. It’s ODD.
emotional incest
I think it's proof that what AF said was true, he molested his brother.
He said his brother porked him, so it's no surprise that he's messed up!
@@barneyronnie He said he didn't remember, but AF admitted he did it.
@@TK-ij2xi Oh, you're right. I thought perhaps his abuse had led to his orientation. That does happen sometimes. It may have still effected him, but I'm not knowledgable enough in this field. Thanks...
Why on earth was this film ever nominated for an Oscar?? .. largely based on footage filmed by the family themselves! Ughhhh🤮🤮
It's a very good film
So??? That doesn't discount the artistry, or captivating story of the truth.
I don't know what the motive was in making the documentary, intended or not I think it opens eyes and makes people think. For too long this stuff has been tabu, kept quiet, people thought it happened rarely and only by some creepy uncle or a guy with a puppy and a van. This was a wealthy well educated family living in a wealthy part of the world. A mom and dad, a couple kids, celebrations, lots of joking around. They don't look like the damaged family they really are. This happens everywhere, it isn't uncommon. Again not sure the film intended this but the attempts to create doubt only made me more sure. The people defending felt like apologists. The boys were obviously manipulated to hate their mother, A even manipulated his own brother, that man damaged so many people, and all those Childrens childhoods ruined, so sad, all of it just a big mess.
Injustice search for fame
And, as one of the students said, "He was a Nebbish" (a Yiddish term for a pitifully timid, ineffectual nerd). @@archerandthemouse
I watched the doc and got a feeling they were trying to create a little doubt but for affect, to create tension, I didn't think it was apologetic, the footage revealed obvious deep dysfunction and that poor mother, my gawd she was abused by every man in that house. I am glad she has the house to herself and I hope she found some peace in her life. After watching what was left out I am still on the fence about why it was left out, I left the doc feeling very sure they were both guilty. I thought in the beginning the son said he died of a heart attack? I was a little angry he killed himself, left everyone else with the pain, grief, and damage. He could have written a book or helped police and early intervention specialists so they could understand the pedo mind, learn how they manipulate and groom, figure out how to catch or prevent this from happening. Instead he checked out. This really happens and it happens a lot, and these people have friends, communities and have even more access via the internet. This is awful, children should be cherished and protected.
I learned years ago truth has to be searched for, but opinions are free flowing and often unture.
After watching it I immediately sensed something was missing
That film did have his Uncle saying that Arnie Friedman told him that Jessie was guilty.. Arnie's lawyer also states in it that Arnie admitted his guilt & at a prison visit asked to move tables because the 5 year old at the next table was "getting him too excited"
Uncle admitted he remember the abuse he suffered by his brother Arnold to the conviction integrity investigators. He also said Arnold confessed to him and told him Jesse was guilty. blogs.brown.edu/recoveredmemory/files/2013/06/Conviction-Integrity-Review-People-v-Jesse-Friedman-FINAL.pdf
🐖 sick
I've just watched the whole film and cannot recall Arnold's brother stating that and instead I think he states the opposite. Also, it was Jesse's lawyer who Arnold said he was becoming aroused from a boy at the next table & no he didn't admit to the crimes he was convicted of but rather other crimes he was not convicted of.
@@SigmaEdits2015 You are correct. It’s not in the film. It’s in the Conviction Integrity report linked above but I’ll link it again so you can read it. blogs.brown.edu/recoveredmemory/files/2013/06/Conviction-Integrity-Review-People-v-Jesse-Friedman-FINAL.pdf
@@SigmaEdits2015 same here.
One of the sons, Seth was not interested in participating in the film, or agreed to be interviewed. What does he not want to talk about from his perspective? Thanks for making this. It shows that there's more to the story going on.
I found his absence in the film and story very disturbing.
When you admit to the court that you've done the crime they accuse you of then you are guilty...period then to give details on what was done it's a no-brainer nobody can make you Converse to the a crime that you didnt do but if you do you deserve the same
@@christinevieth4883 Agree: Confess in Trial Court= conviction . I think the odd absence of material in F-docu is very telling and makes the docu suspiciously like a set-up for Jessie to base his appeal on.
Side-note『 However, (and not relevant in Friedman docu) I Do think that coerced confessions Can & have happened in interrogations. 【@Chase Hughes for explanation on how, & also their is a Netflix show about one - & creator on YT breaks it down (@Spidey on Behavioral Arts)】
Agreed that Seth not wanting to be filmed was very telling.
Seth surely didn't want his life's greatest pain to be unearthed and to be again utterly destroyed by it. Imagine how long it takes to dig yourself out of such a tragedy, only to then realize you're still underground and it's where you'll always be. I think it must be so painful and heartbreaking - I believe that he likely just could not bring himself to do it. I think that this is just as likely as anything else.
I just watched this and had no idea about that tape! Holy wow! No wonder the mother was so upset and they made her look so bad! Wow
I watched the documentary and cale away feeling terrible for the mother. Poor woman was surrounded by freaks that blamed her for everything.
Update: April 2024-Jessie is now out of prison and married. His last appeal for a retrial was denied based on more information coming to light about Jessie's abuse. He still claims to be innocent but this portion of Geraldo put the nail into his coffin of freedom. They also deemed the documentary to be biased and said that the director tried to cleanse Jessie's name. His mom Elaine remarried and died in 2019.
he's divorced
When Geraldo did real interviews and journalism.
My question would be when did Geraldo ever do anything and any good came of it. The second question would be was Jesse paid for the interview. I was once told ,If you want to see a rabbit coat turn into a sabel lose the rabbit coat.there was homeowners insurance. I'm sure there were lawsuits. In the last 20 yrs having seen 500 convictions overturned from corruption by DA'S and police. I can't believe stacks of porn laying around the house in the open and parents were popping in and out the house. None of the parents saw any of the porn. People are nosey they look around your house. A lot of money changed hands, promotions were given. Communities have been burned, black people killed in mass. Black men lynched all for lie's and property. I'm a little skeptical about the whole thing.
@@darrellpetty3757 The 1st doc said the magazines were found hidden behind the piano when the police first came with the search warrants to the house.
Nominated for oscar...
so sick!
hollywood loves pedos
I'm not surprised. Hollywood enabled Weinstein, Spacey, Cosby.
@@michaelbarrett672 Yes, and the Catholic church has enabled multitudes more. Pedophilia is found everywhere.
Man it is really sick just like Hollywood...I could give a shit about Hollywood...all they stand for is satanic pedophilia !!!!
You know what group of people control Hollywood, don't you. Hint: they are not catholics...
The biggest tell for me was the student who vehemently denied anything went on. Doth protest too much. It felt forced and fake.
My thoughts exactly. He was trying way too hard.
He likely knew he was up against peoples opinions of how he was suppose to act and re act. I believed him fully despite my belief that sexual assaults did take place.
But why would he lie? Genuinely curious.
@@truegemrn Because it was done to him & he has shame & embarrassment. This is a PURE assumption going by behavior - I'm not saying he was victimized....only that his behavior hints at it.
Well, that blows up the Jarecki film. The entire family is bizarre, the sons are clearly disturbed. So glad I watched part 2!
I wrote this on the doc, so I'm going to say it here too. It amazes me that almost 300K people watched the doc, but only about 9K have seen this part. Either, they didn't read the description, or had no idea that this video was a "part 2" unofficially. I'm so glad you put this together & showed this. There were WAY to many red flags in that documentary for me.
David is full of rage, hate, resentment, & anger. It makes me question him, even more.
& why wasn't Seth involved in the doc? I mean he had to have given permission to use his face in all of those videos & pictures, right? So why is he out of it now? Does he think they did it?
I have so many questions!
and david entertains childr4en.Okay.
I don't think either did what they were charged with. At all. And I think the people in the comments are irrational when it comes to David, who didn't do anything. Either that or they have an irrational fear of clowns.
@@QuinnieMae If you don't mind elaborating, how did you come to those conclusions. Either they didn't do it, the people in the comments, are irrational about David & or have an irrational fear of clowns? Can you explain more about what you mean by that... just curious.
@@QuinnieMae they’re all sick and they’re all definitely guilty.
too* many
This "man" was scathing towards his own mother during that time! Not to mention, he was outside the courthouse clowning around as though he had not a care in the entire world regarding his and his father's heinous crimes against youth. Sickening. I understand he was a victim, but his overall attitude did little to polish up his image. Personally, I would never fully trust anything he says. 🖐🏼
The Geraldo thing absolutely was included in the dvd and commented on by Jesse Friedman. He claims that his appearance on the show was part of his lawyer’s strategy to obtain leniency during the appeal process
That makes no sense. Jesse plead guilty to the charges. You can't appeal a guilty plea.
@@KaiUchiha15 🤷♂️
@@KaiUchiha15Can someone appeal the length of sentence?
@@KaiUchiha15 he probably means leniency at the sentencing or more likely leniency at parole hearings, since the interview appears to be during his time in prison.
Thanks for the clarification. This is a good question with any documentary of this sort.
Ok, now this makes sense. I was really confused while watching the documentary because it felt as if they were attempting to cast a lot of doubt on their guilt even though there was obviously child p0rn and confessions to misconduct.
THANK YOU for posting this followup!
I have to say one point here is not accurate. I knew cp was found. I believe it was in Arnold's office? However, it is a very big deal that an officer grossly overstated how much and that it was stacked a foot high in the living room , out for all to see. That is a lie. And if you tell one lie could you not tell 2 or maybe even 3. It is important.
It was in the living room. That’s where the piano was. The one stack that they found was about a foot high but I didn’t see multiple stacks found a foot high.
He had child pornography, but I don't think he was physically capable of all the crimes he was accused of.
🤔LE made return visits. We don't know when all photos were taken.
"In plain view" was said. Wife said piano in basement by the office. Computer class was also in basement.
// "Piano was in living room". - could be lack of continuity explanation from DF.
I have questions. I think there are some omissions. I am prone to believe the Leo's. And all convictions warranted. Perhaps maybe a few missing: re:NYT; "J's had friends come over for __"
~also think that cp crimes were often ¿..? & the fact that they didn't sweep this under the rug is telling.
@8:20 there are 3 voices - Female Narrator, Female LE, David F's voice which is spliced in there. It sounds like LE is lying buy it is David who posts empty photos after LE says "stacks in open view".
I think you accidentally fell for David's portrayal and missed the point this docu was proving. Namely that; the Fried docu Film left Out/ misrepp'ed some things.
@@Nephthys-ness I don't think so. I've been following this case for about 6 years now. I've watched and read, at least all I know that exists. As well as some court transcripts I could get my hands on. At least one officer testifys to the large amount out in the open in living room. However, I will Def keep digging.
No Arnold's wife said he would look at child pornography as meditation I'm like really are you that naive?! So for all his son's to see that they grew up most likely all being groomed by their father most likely they won't admit it, it's sad
The way Jesse behaved the day before his jail sentence and then the day of is cringe now that i hear him own up to what he did here. He really did that and then their father brainwashed him and his brothers to go against the mother. That explains why the other brother wasn't a part of the documentary. My God! The father was a total creep!!!! It makes you look at the home videos differently. In one of them you could almost see fear in one of those kids eyes as soon as he saw his father come in with the video recording. OMG!!!
It is interesting to see this now. After watching the documentary, it was clear to me that is was very biased. It was a clear attempt to make it appear as if the family was innocent. Even before viewing this part, I did not believe what the family was saying. The only one that was somewhat believable to me was the mother, but I believe she knew much more than she claimed. To me, it was clear that all three brothers were abused, and were in denial about what happened. It is highly unlikely that an admitted pedophile with unfettered access to children would never commit any crimes against those children. Though I am unsure of the scope of what happened, I was fully convinced of their guilt after watching the documentary, and this clip left me even more convinced of that fact.
Time stamp 7:10 this man appears to have a “stiffy”? His movements are a little off?
Agree. Shot is oddly packaged. Seems staged (angle & tilt of shot+puberty voice≡suggestive?) And the fact that the Psych said "no hypnosis used ever".
I thought I was the only one that noticed it..😆
@@pumpkingirl4229 I actually watched his interview a couple ti,es. It is very obvious that things were done to this boy/young man in this video. They way he is sitting for one and yes I believe he is grinding that parlor chair. It’s very sad to be honest. Shows how mush these POS hurt these kids
Saw it
@@Aggrobiscuit Because it's on the screen. Why are you shaming people for noticing very weird behavior?
I fully agree with the points raised in this video. I also wondered whether or not the director asked the brothers point blank if they were ever molested or groomed by their father. The second point, the one victim interviewed on camera was filmed in such a way that is designed to discredit him. In journalism, all subjects (especially on such a subject matter) should be interviewed sitting up as a sign of respect to the interviewee and the craft. But half lying down is a silent way to discredit the interviewee. It gives the viewer the impression that the person isn’t taking his own abuse seriously, so neither should the viewer. Also, he never asked the interviewee, why he never told anyone about the interview until the police came. This would have given insight into the secrecy abuse is surrounded by especially in the 1980s when talking about it was discouraged.
I am usually very open-minded when considering someone's guilt on something like this. I usually want to believe in innocence. I didn't even have to see this Part 2 to know what went on. WAY too many massively waving red flags and admissions.
I found it difficult to believe some of the stories about what happened to the kids and there being no physical evidence of said things happening. But clearly, the abuse happened. At times it felt like Jesse and Arnold were being themselves and telling the truth when they were away from the pressure of the fantasy land they/David had created within the family home
They admitted to it. To multiple people at different times.
Small hats protecting small hats. Notice they left out Ross Goldstein's conviction as well as if it didn't help paint the whole picture of what went on.
I believed the woman detective lied through most of her conversation. Mrs Friedman had said the piano was in the office downstairs so when the detective said the living room I knew she was lying.
While I believe there was indeed child pornography, I would not base anything on the Police Officers account. She was clearly bias and exaggerating if not out right lying at times. Sadder still, she struck me like many in the field do in that I think she believed her own assumptions and that her biases were warranted. The child porn was fact because the father stated that he had child porn.
massive eyeroll
Perhaps her recollection is of a living room, as opposed to the family who viewed the basement room as “Arnold’s office” and was likely a downstairs room that a family might call a “family room” or a “rec room” back in the 80s.
Perhaps she did not deliberately lie…
The mother in this documentary was no fan of the father…..so if the house was piled and stacked to the ceiling with child pornographic material then that mom is going to say so.
@@reneesantiago6496she was never going to report anything…
The idea that an 8 year old child was raped anally during his 2 hour class and then being picked up a happy contented child by his parents..... needed to be addressed. I suspect biased Police conduct was the cause of the exaggeration as is seen in the comments from the Police Officer but, injecting hysteria and bias into the situation never gets us closer to the truth.
Predators know how to get someone relaxed beforehand. Spoiling a victim afterwards would make them leave happy. Use your brain before you dismiss abuse.
@@roleat Having been raped repeatedly as a prepubescent child, I know exactly what happens physically when an adult anally rapes a boy child..... It can not be wished away with "spoiling the child" for a few minutes after the rape. Talk to a Survivor about how they physically responded to anal rape within a 2 hour period. Not one will tell you about the Happiness they felt from being spoilt. Try using your brain before you spew your bullshit online.
Kids hide their abuse all the time. It more common than not.
McMartin case all over again. My take - the child porn was the reason the father didnt dare to go to trial because it would just taint the jury. And the son was just collateral damage. In the McMartin case the police n authorities managed to get the son a guilty sentance on zero evidense and no confession. This hysteria ruins peoples lives - just look at the West Memfis three. They were innocent boys, zero evidence and one of them got death sentance on wearing black t-shirt n listening to Metallica.
If they know the kid is going to see parents soon and they don’t want to be found out do you think they’d be incredibly rough on them?
Those Friedman's were perverts!!
The dysfunction, discourse and denial in that family is next level insane
In Capturing the Friedmans - they DO say that porn was found (contrary to what is said by the narrator of this video) - and his wife agrees with this - she agrees that the child porn was in his office in the basement behind a piano (hidden). And his wife also says that it was not upstairs... which is what the pictures show.
He also signed a registered letter for porn that was being sent back to him
Glad for this follow up. I watched it long ago and felt they were guilty. I really hate poorly done documentaries, biased ones, etc.
Like Apple TV's documentary, The Line, (about Navy Seal Ed Gallagher, who killed the 17 year old captive and enjoyed shooting at citizens, children). The Line was terrible because the filmmakers did NOT question the insane things done and said! They didn't challenge Gallagher, and lots of people thought he was innocent or that killing civilians is no big deal.
We really need integrity, honesty, and thoroughness in documentaries...not this pile of slanted documentaries inept people keep cranking out. It's really disappointing when it seems a documentary is just a tool to protect offenders. I guess we have to investigate the filmmakers' motives and connection to their subjects now.
I really like this youtube channel. They expose a lot of important situations. Will def donate. Peace
The only victim in this family was the mother.
Thank you. Recently rewatched the film. So much didn’t make sense. This gives the case better clarity.
I don’t get why the parents didn’t pick up on this
So all the sons were abused? David Friedman is weird.
I don't know if they were guilty or not. I'm trying to wrap my head around all those kids being raped and parents not noticing anything - blood, kids in pain from being sodomized, stained undergarments etc. And not one, not just one kid went home and said anything? These little kids kept all this secret? Parents didn't notice behavioral changes or acting out? The kids were never afraid to go back for more lessons?
They were threatened. The father threatened them and told them that if they told, everybody's life would be ruined and he also threatened the kids families and told them he would burn down their homes.
Jesse also threatened them.
You can be raped without having your anus torn.
@@roleat Small children? I don't think so.
My mom and grandma out of my family were very attentive and should’ve noticed things easily but I was threatened by the older high school boys on my bus (I was still very young in elementary school) that if anyone ever found out they’d kill my family and pets etc etc so I became good at hiding everything nobody ever found out til I told them when they were long gone and I was in my twenties. I obviously took that threat very seriously so no matter what they did to me how much pain I was in physically/emotionally if I was around my parents I was very conscious of myself.
It happens all the time. Kids do not feel powerful like they can change things and often accept whatever life they’re living as how life is supposed to be. Also, these things happen little by little over time. And there’s a lot of spoiling and fun to where the kids often don’t want to get the perpetrator in trouble. There is so much psychological manipulation you just can’t imagine if you’ve never been there. These psychopaths are master manipulators.
If anything I think the documentary squashes any possible doubt at all of their obvious guilt
Once again, Hollywood takes the side of the offender. See a pattern here?
Um.... my thing is if Jesse went on Geraldo and gave an interview describing what possibly went on knowing none of it was true why not try to set the record straight? Why keep telling the lie if it's not true? He sounds guilty
GUILTY and GUILTY.
One thing though, like Jesse said, why would the abused children kept coming back and even re-enroll? I could understand they fear not to tell anyone but they could tell their parents, they did not feel like going back to take computer classes. Was that asked from them? I cant imagine my parents forcing me to do something I did not want to do. Were these classes part of a school program? Or was it extra curriculum? I may have missed that somewhere.
You clearly don't understand how abuse works, the immature brains and thus decisions of children, and the shame involved. I was sexually abused and shut down completely about what happened. I also lacked the vocabulary to talk about it. That said, you don't know if children protested but were shut down by their parents.
Sorry but lets face it the police lawyers and judges aint going to admit they got it wrong and as for the brother he was adamant his brother was not guilty money must have changed his mind, Mo examining the kids by doctors this case has far to many holes.
8:07 ok wait.. the wife would HAVE to have been able to see that! I thought she was in denial but if this is also true, which I’m sure it is because a detective working with many other detectives wouldn’t lie about it on TV and lose their job for one thing
That documentary was nominated for an Oscar?
I'm not so sure I believe either side is being truthful.
I agree. When the victim is used as an offender and then treated solely as the Offender by Police who were clearly biased and dishonest, there is no room for truth. Everyone has to cover their own ass.
I did not feel sorry for this mother. She did not protect her children from her sicko husband or the kids coming into her pornography filled house. wht? She was emotionally stiff and uncaring.
The impression I got from her was that she was dissociative. The way she just had that thousand yard stare. I think the severity of the situation could've been too much for her to bear and she just lost her grip on things.
I agree, from what I remember ( this being years ago I saw the film) I remember the mother being highly neurotic but consistently being analyzed, and found wanting or failing her numerous roles within the family sphere. Reduced to a family whipping boy. That doesn't infrere that she is free of criticism. She obviously had some abstract understanding that her husband was not the man she assumed, and to keep suburbia family cohesion she turned a blind eye. There is also something very anti-female that runs through the majority of the family. I feel like they have reduced their mother down to a Jewish mother stereotype and their is a disdain they have towards her, but this malice is lacking towards the father. Who used his gentle, friendly demeanor as a ruse to engage in his predation. @@anacardoso9822
I see jesse as a victim of his father
Jessie was innocent he only pled guilty in the hope of getting a shorter sentence but obviously it didn't work. The police corruption was beyond belief in this case. The family were brave to film thier experiences during this terrible time.
Regardless of the facts of the case, the police weren’t trained in proper interview techniques which can thoroughly destroy a case. Hopefully police departments today have a much better understanding of proper methods for the sake of the children and the accused.
I've noticed the programs from the "computer class" in the evidence log near the end of this video. Clearly someone was trying to groom these children.
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Wonder why Seth Friedman refused to be included
I am both horrified by what Jesse did, and deeply heartbroken that he was groomed into such a life. His father was a monster who created one himself.
Very odd case. I hope the truth comes out either way.
He plead guilty to abusing 13 kids, but then he admitted to 17 kids on the Geraldo interview!
Hold on, so you're telling me that there was no physical evidence? No luminol scan in the supposed rooms where attacks are said to have happened? No complaints or even suspicions from all of parents prior to police knocking on their doors? & pray tell me about what pornography on a computer looked like in the 80's. Did it even exist? Maybe they did do it, but the evidence was flimsy AT BEST. They should've rolled the dice with a jury.
19 year old defendant brow beaten by his panicked, humiliated, inexperienced mother…she was fearful of a sentence that could last decades and wanted him to take a plea.
Bad legal advice from a person without good background for this kind of situation.
The Jareckis own two islands near Epstein's "Little Saint James." The Jareckis appear in Epstein's "Little Black Book." The Jareckis are on Epstein's flight logs.
Wow, this makes everyone look bad. Police included. Because why no photos?👍🏿👍🏿👋🏽
Jesse is guilty
Thank you! 💪🏽👍🏽
Where is a link to the entire Geraldo interview? Is this it?
THEY DID IT. END OF
Where were the scores of photos featuring the students and son? Why didn’t the police find them? Where are they?
its not a question of who do you believe
it is a question of which pieces are true and which aren't. At least some of it is true, but not all of it is true if you ask me. "Trumped up charges" could mean they were accused to raping 50 kids but actually only raped 49, not really worth mentioning. But also "Trumped up charges" could mean the police saw the CP, and saw there was a class, and just assumed the kids got raped each time they were there. I think the answer is between those two extremes. Plea deals on guilty subject don't represent the truth by design, it's either less than what really happened so they take it, or way more than what really happened so they don't try to fight it. The truth is in the middle.
I knew there was something missing after watching that doco!
Sounds like he is just falsely confessing to Geraldo because he took a deal.
Methinks the clown doth protest too much…
They are sick!!
Where’s the evidence if he posed for hundreds of pictures in this day and age of information , Please be fair
Polaroid photos from the 1980s
Trial Evidence. They are not going to release CP pics.
Polaroids?? And not one was found. Although the family clearly had large volumes of visual family recordings... Not one piece of visual evidence of these allegations.
@@pinkpugginz what about it? 1980’s 1990’s 2000’s where are these hundreds of photos of them with those students???????
And just to be clear I am a survivor of the 80s but I’ll be that damn for such a serious charge that the evidence not prove it
I find it hard to believe. Seems like they made an example of this family. Made it more sensational than it really was. I Believe a lot of people have sick fantasies, fetishes but they don't act on it. How many guys look at porn but they do not become rapists. What got me convinced is that they were innocent is the fact that none of these boys had bloody pants that a mother would find doing their laundry. No evidence of rape. Rape is violent. Id any of these boys were raped, they would never go back to that class. My piano was a strict nun and she cut my nails so close to the skin, I never returned to that class again. I begged my mom I never wanted to go back and that's just fingernails. The victim in the interview who said he remembered through hypnosis but the psychologist denied he was ever hypnotized?!?? Honestly think these victims are mentally unstable and have the sadistic tendencies themselves. I feel bad for this family.
It’s gross that Netflix profits from this movie
That's how media works..
I would like to know for sure that the pornography was underage boys. and not young men pretending. I would like to hear the interviews with the children.
Im not sure what to think. It sounds very sus that not one kid said anything until approached and agressively interrogated by cops telling them they will be gay if they wont admit s a happened... It seems that it all stemed from usps contraband check...
On the other hand not only their lawyer admited they both addmitted but also arnolds brother and jessies uncle who said that jesse admitted to him that some of it eas true...
Not my crowd of people either way
6 to 18 years .are you kidding me . I also didnt know about the geraldo interview .vike and disgusting .
My full comments are not being permitted to be posted here. They are less than 10K in words. Censorship 🤔
This 10 min video is filled with absolute rubbish.
All of these issues have been addressed on freejesse site, with supporting legal documents.
Eg.
1. The suggestion that the victim who was interviewed in the film got it wrong that he was hypnotised is also inaccurate. (@7:29)
a. If he did get it wrong, his credibility on the alleged abuse is equally wrong.
b. In any event the evidence is not inconsistent. Jesse's conviction was in 1988. So the events alleged to have occurred would have preceded that date. The affidavit in this clip was signed in 2004 by the psychiatrist.
That victim was a child when it allegedly happened. He would have seen multiple psychiatrists. Just because one of them signed an affidavit 16 years later saying he wasn't the one who used hypnosis, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
2. The film did not create a 'false impression that the second search revealed nothing'.
@8:09 the police evidence was that "foot high stacks of pornography" were all around the house.
This is so grossly exaggerated by the police that it is a blatant lie.
@8:22 the list of items not to be returned to the Friedman's following a search were some film reels. Magazine covers.Some porn mags. In a house of 4 men.
Not multitudes of child porn.
The photos do not imply nothing was found. They simply juxtapose the police officers gross exaggeration.
3. The suggestion that Jareki was dishonest about the number of witnesses he spoke to, in this video, is again inaccurate.As is the suggestion that he avoided speaking to the others.
Two of the 13 victims at that time were represented in the documentary. Jareki said he spoke to more than 3 in an interview, and 5 in an affidavit.
So how is this inconsistent? He spoke to about 5 victims. Which is more than 3. And 2 of them agreed to go on film.
People with implanted memories become victims. The memories are as if they are real. Which is why it is VERY dangerous to question children like this. This is now a heavily regulated area of law because of the damage done to so many children in so many cases. There is a large volume of studies conducted on this phenomena. It is completely unsurprising that the other victims he contacted wouldn't want to talk to him and reasonable that he stopped at 5 because that was enough for a documentary of this length.
Wow. Here you are again, Jesse. Or Jesse's poor wife. No one believes you. You'll be spending eternity in hell with your father soon enough.
Sometimes comments won’t show up if certain words are in them.
Anyway this whole family is messed up and a bunch of P’s.
Why did Jesse confess on the Geraldo interview?
@@MissOrchid12what did Geraldo promise him for the interview?
@@MissOrchid12He already plead guilty at that point for a lighter sentence.
What I want to know though is if this was all done with computers why were they not able to check ? Even now? Like they have to be in evidence. That was just a thought I had.
What do you mean? There's a lot of evidence from the computers available. Devon Stack, on odysee, did a podcast on this documentary and personally went through and showed the hundreds of grooming games on the computers. It's quite horrible.
The one that describes what happened during the leap frog game doesn't ring true any child sexually abused feel's dirty and ashamed certainly wouldn.t relive their abuse using the kind of words he used.
Unless he’s drunk or high out of his mind, I’ve talked very freely and unusually about trauma when I was wasted on liquor and Xanax or high on H and Xanax.
6:33 That is the first witness that I believe.
Disgusting!
Ye after some minuit my doubt on jesses innocence changed
No. The most important question is not ”what was left out” its what is the evidence. Thats the most important question. And there were none. Just two people scared n facing lifetime in prison with zero chanse of getting a fair trial. A mother n wife who demanded they confess in order to 1: save the son 2: get a leniant sentance.
This clip is just nonsensical. The documentary never stated that there were no child porn in the house at all. It contested the false claim that it was overflowing the house.