I'm joined by Educated_Potato for a deep dive teaching session focusing on learning the optimal timings for Guild Boss. This strategy involves using Twinfiend or Pyros (+ others of course..) The conversation is education which is why I kept it long. PLEASE watch the WHOLE video or you might not benefit from all the tips & tricks properly. And go sub to our teacher! www.youtube.com/@educated_potato and follow on Twitch www.twitch.tv/educated_potato
yeah that's why i left in all the conversation and asked lots of questions; i want to learn properly and actually understand why for things; and let others do the same :)
Thanks for putting this out ivy. With limited resources, learning how to min/max your units as well as improving how to play the game (knowing timings and what not) this is gold
This has been on my watch later list for a while now with all the Holliday madness. Finally got around to watching it and am excited to try out a few more tips i picked up. Doubt i'll be cracking the 20k blood mark still but every little bit helps.
Ivy and potato, thanks for the vid. Do you think the 20% extra damage on zilitu from blocking is better than switching zilitu and Salazar places so laurel can hit zilitu with the rage regen and use zilitu ultimate more times?
no moving zilitu back is better i realized we did that after the video haha because as long as the boss is being blocked she gets the extra damage( does not need to be zilitu blocking so salazar counts )
Sounds like an insult to me... Trying to do something like that where someone says where to put things is hard, I had to learn quick but also asked a lot of questions to clarify WHY doing stuff. This was a video for learning that others would see, didn't want to just... hit stuff and not know why.
I don't have have the same heroes but I applied what he explained and took my team at nightmare 3 from 9k blood to 14k blood and didn't optimize my gear yet, I'm just breaking 18 on gear raids I'm yet to complete gear raid 2 18, so these was great for me I used: Pyros, dolores, Nocturne, zilitu, hollow, aracha, Silas lugar, falcia and volka, didn't deployed volka nor aracha will play to introduce laurel in the future.
No way, i'm already 11 months playing watcher and still i only have 17k blood drops in my guildboss N4 in one run 😅, i still don't have hollow yet...also my slow gear farming progress... I'm gonna needed to learn this🙏🙏
Isn't it bad to use setram ult with twinfiend? When twinfiend channels it stops setram from dealing damage with his ult, and the timer keeps ticking down so it's wasted. Setrams damage is dealt by his ult unlike zilitu who's damage is increased by her ult. The result is that he deals more damage on his own than he does contributing to twinfiends blast, whereas most of zilitu's damage comes from utilizing the blast. Setram will contribute the same to twinfiends blast whether he's ulting or not, so you're better off using them separately to maximize his damage.
wouldn't Elowyn be better there since Hollow isn't built properly with one atk spd and one rage regen piece for max rage regen.. Also I think that it was tested and Zilitu do not need to be the one specifically blocking a target to get the bonus damage and if she's not in a square around laurel she doesn't get the rage boost.. same for Twinfiend, he probably should be in a square around laurel
..the point was not my gear in this moment (I've since adjusted them;) it was the heroes roles & timings then yeah, talk about optimal gear sets and such. But as I say, don't mind what my people are wearing now, I wanted the best advice to build an optimal team assuming I can build them up better
I see. I don’t have that set so I wasn’t familiar. Can u tell me is there a particular sequence u need to fire (my GB team)TwinFiend, Torodor, Zilitu, Setram, Dolores, Laya & Hex to gain the best DPS? I’m so inconsistent with my scores & I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. Only once have unbroken the last shield on NM4 & I’m not sure how I did it !!!
I don’t get the talk about Torodor A1 giving buffs. All his A1 does is increase trample skill by 20% for himself it does nothing to Zilitu. Why face Zilitu?? Where in Torodors description does it say facing an ally gives an attack buff. The guy calls it invigoration (think he means inspiration) but Dolores gives that?? Not very clear instructions IMO.
Ivy. Im not sure if you cover this later... but why arent you placing anyone to setrams left and right? Your a1 setram gives aspeed bonuses to the squares to its left and right.... could that help get more damage placing him better in the actual placements? Im gonna finish watching the vid.
no you cannot place it again, per say. he does explain about it. once a hero that has that set has put invig on someone, they can't place it on anyone again in that battle
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I'm joined by Educated_Potato for a deep dive teaching session focusing on learning the optimal timings for Guild Boss. This strategy involves using Twinfiend or Pyros (+ others of course..) The conversation is education which is why I kept it long. PLEASE watch the WHOLE video or you might not benefit from all the tips & tricks properly. And go sub to our teacher! www.youtube.com/@educated_potato and follow on Twitch www.twitch.tv/educated_potato
Tips for setram you actually interrupt his skill animation if you click his ult again
What a great collab! It's great that you take your time which gives more inexperienced players the opportunity to keep up. Keep it up Ivy!
yeah that's why i left in all the conversation and asked lots of questions; i want to learn properly and actually understand why for things; and let others do the same :)
Thanks for putting this out ivy. With limited resources, learning how to min/max your units as well as improving how to play the game (knowing timings and what not) this is gold
Thanks for having me on!
I feel so validated after watching this video. This is almost exactly what I do with Laurel, Torodor and Volka.
Thx for all the info ivy and potato ❤ and thx for the vid
This has been on my watch later list for a while now with all the Holliday madness. Finally got around to watching it and am excited to try out a few more tips i picked up. Doubt i'll be cracking the 20k blood mark still but every little bit helps.
Thank you for this vid! really cool learning❤
Ivy and potato, thanks for the vid. Do you think the 20% extra damage on zilitu from blocking is better than switching zilitu and Salazar places so laurel can hit zilitu with the rage regen and use zilitu ultimate more times?
no moving zilitu back is better i realized we did that after the video haha because as long as the boss is being blocked she gets the extra damage( does not need to be zilitu blocking so salazar counts )
Mr potato has a lot of patience ;]
Sounds like an insult to me... Trying to do something like that where someone says where to put things is hard, I had to learn quick but also asked a lot of questions to clarify WHY doing stuff. This was a video for learning that others would see, didn't want to just... hit stuff and not know why.
100% @@SuziPlaysYT
I don't have have the same heroes but I applied what he explained and took my team at nightmare 3 from 9k blood to 14k blood and didn't optimize my gear yet, I'm just breaking 18 on gear raids I'm yet to complete gear raid 2 18, so these was great for me I used: Pyros, dolores, Nocturne, zilitu, hollow, aracha, Silas lugar, falcia and volka, didn't deployed volka nor aracha will play to introduce laurel in the future.
No way, i'm already 11 months playing watcher and still i only have 17k blood drops in my guildboss N4 in one run 😅, i still don't have hollow yet...also my slow gear farming progress... I'm gonna needed to learn this🙏🙏
I'm gonna take a crack at this on my end. I don't have a Hex so I'll be doing neptune.
I learned soo much ty
Great vid!
This game is way better then raid en much fun a little Diablo ting like if you agree
Isn't it bad to use setram ult with twinfiend? When twinfiend channels it stops setram from dealing damage with his ult, and the timer keeps ticking down so it's wasted.
Setrams damage is dealt by his ult unlike zilitu who's damage is increased by her ult. The result is that he deals more damage on his own than he does contributing to twinfiends blast, whereas most of zilitu's damage comes from utilizing the blast.
Setram will contribute the same to twinfiends blast whether he's ulting or not, so you're better off using them separately to maximize his damage.
wouldn't Elowyn be better there since Hollow isn't built properly with one atk spd and one rage regen piece for max rage regen..
Also I think that it was tested and Zilitu do not need to be the one specifically blocking a target to get the bonus damage and if she's not in a square around laurel she doesn't get the rage boost..
same for Twinfiend, he probably should be in a square around laurel
..the point was not my gear in this moment (I've since adjusted them;) it was the heroes roles & timings then yeah, talk about optimal gear sets and such. But as I say, don't mind what my people are wearing now, I wanted the best advice to build an optimal team assuming I can build them up better
And twin is in laurel's range when I use him ?
@@SuziPlaysYT Laurel's talent range isn't the same as her basic attack and Ult range..
it's just a square around her.. just the 8 tiles around her..
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I don’t get the invigoration, Torodor & Zilitu? Where is this in the heroes description? Please let me know cuz when I try it I get nothing.
It's the gear set. That adds atk bonus to a random hero. That's why you have to place them in proper order
I see. I don’t have that set so I wasn’t familiar. Can u tell me is there a particular sequence u need to fire (my GB team)TwinFiend, Torodor, Zilitu, Setram, Dolores, Laya & Hex to gain the best DPS? I’m so inconsistent with my scores & I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. Only once have unbroken the last shield on NM4 & I’m not sure how I did it !!!
Amazing vid gz!!! one of the best about guild boss strat !!! great teacher @Educated_Potato 🙏💋
I don’t get the talk about Torodor A1 giving buffs. All his A1 does is increase trample skill by 20% for himself it does nothing to Zilitu. Why face Zilitu?? Where in Torodors description does it say facing an ally gives an attack buff. The guy calls it invigoration (think he means inspiration) but Dolores gives that?? Not very clear instructions IMO.
It's using gear set. If you read the gear set, it makes sense.
It's not about his A1 (I don't have torodor a1)
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Ivy. Im not sure if you cover this later... but why arent you placing anyone to setrams left and right? Your a1 setram gives aspeed bonuses to the squares to its left and right.... could that help get more damage placing him better in the actual placements? Im gonna finish watching the vid.
Because then Hex or twin wouldn't be covered by dolores boost. and the other spot is needed for hollow to cover all for rage & heal
That makes sense.
Cand this be done with wraith and pyros
Does the invigoration buff stack with sebsequent new placements?
no you cannot place it again, per say. he does explain about it. once a hero that has that set has put invig on someone, they can't place it on anyone again in that battle
Wait so do i actually have to face the hero with invig set to the hero i want it to land on?
Apparently they need to be in their range
just needs to be in their zone since we are using torodor in this case he only has a 1 tile zone so thats why they need to be facing
lm so sick of 29k blood...