"It's time for professionals to embrace H.265" - Opinion Piece
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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To be fair to Intel, they added H.265 Hardware Decoding in their 11th gen chips too. Works great. 13th gen will be out in laptops soon. So if your a pc person get a 12th or 13th gen Intel chip and make sure it has the IGPU ( intel chips with a F designation DO NOT HAVE a GPU ) to get the hardware decoders.
Useful advice, thank you!
AMD's iGPUs have HEVC decoding, too, BTW.
Intel 11 gen 12 gen and 13 gen which has igpu can encode h.265 4.4.4 upto 10 bit 16k resolution and decode upto 12 bit h.265 4.4.4 at 16k resolution. You can check Intel website
Funny it took a viewer comment to point this out. By the video you'd think Macs with M1 chips were the only choice.
Intel meteorlake laptops are also coming in 2nd half of 2023 this year.
This chips in laptops will have a new design, new node, new e and p cores, etc.
Everything is confirmed about these cpus.
50% lower power consumption for the same performance as Intel 13 gen laptops.
I haven't even finished watching this video and I 100% agree Carl. Since using the A7S3, A7iv, using H.265 in 4:2:0 and 4:2:2 10-Bit and using the M1 Max and M1 Pro MacBook Pro, it has been a difference maker in having high quality files with very minimal storage take up takes to 30mbps, 45mbps etc. I used to shoot ProRes and ALL-I but no more. Great Opinion peace!
It's a great way of working isn't it! Thanks for watching
I am a little confused. On the Canon R6 and R7 do these have 10 bit H265 and is HDR PQ this setting?
It's important information that none is talking about, thanks Carl! Am I seeing the edit for the R6 II upcoming review on your screen?
I respectfully disagree. The timeline of your edits look pretty basic (1:35). My M1 Pro Macbook (10c cpu, 32c gpu) can struggle with 4k h265 multicam edits, especially after scaling effects, etc. And stuff goes down hill pretty quick if you're doing any blend modes (screen/lighten) with tracks above. Also, like you mentioned, not everyone has an Apple product. I have a great 5950x Ryzen machine I built myself that is just trash for editing 4k H265 because there isn't a single contemporary, standalone GPU on the market that Premiere uses to decode 4k H265 10bit 4:2:2 (many are confused about this point). The new Intel Arc GPUs can decode it spec-wise but Premiere does not yet take advantage; who knows if they will. Most non-Apple creators or those simply on a budget are likely best serviced shooting h264 4k or if they must do h265, do it in 10 bit 4:2:0 if they have the option (which can be decoded by GPUs) ....at least until Adobe takes full advantage of what GPUs can do.
You are right, our timelines tend to be fairly basic for simple videos like this one. And that is all we would use the M1 Pro for. Our 16" M1 Max handles the bigger projects like camera comparisons where we have a lot more going on. Like I said in the video, for SOME kinds of professional work H.265 will be fantastic. For some, All-I or Prores or Raw will be better. It's about choosing the right tool for the job, not saying that one format is always better to use than another.
@@carlyates2487 also don't think the OP is disagreeing with the right topic. Using hardwares/software that doesn't take advantage of h265 is not h265's problem.
You are calling on professionals to shift to h265, which will also encourage manufacturers to get along with it. M1Max handles multicam 4k files quite well, and it's been a lifesaver because I film multicam 4k musical concerts, which are normally 1.5-2 hrs long. The previous person insisted that "ProRes is the only way to go", and I can only imagine how he stored those files at the client's budget. Probably not archiving anything at all either.
Oh and since I mentioned, using NvidiaGPU with handbrake to generate h265 archival copies seem like a fantastic idea too. I have been slowly re-encoding some of the old archives I have in h265 and saving a ton of space.
Yes video editing app developer are lazy and not utilizing rtx 40 series GPU.
Intel 12 and 13 gen CPU igpu have upto 12 bit 4.4.4 but adobe is not utilizing. All video editing apps are bad as they are not utilizing hardware.
Av1 is more awesome as it is 20% more efficient than h.265. All Intel CPU have dual av1 decoders and rtx 40 series GPU have dual av1 encoders.
Build any 12 gen or 13 gen desktop with rtx 40 series.
You will get combined 3 encoders of h.265, h.264, etc and dual av1 encoders.
Also 3 decoders of h.265, h.254 and av1 all upto 10 bit.
Yes updates are still not out yet for video editing apps for ada rtx 40 series GPU but may be after Feb 2023 when laptops will go on sale, then they can realese updates for dual encoders of rtx 40 series and also av1 support.
Discord, obs studio are not video editing apps but they already provided av1 and dual encoders support for rtx 40 series GPU.
10-bit 4:2:0 H.265 works really well on Windows. My 2016 Xeon 18 core + RTX 3060 works well in 4K or below.
I’m thinking I transcode old proRes to h.265 to save space on my hard disks.
Is the feature built into the M1 iPad Pro? 🧑💻
Hi ProAV! Can you lose the background music on future uploads? Your talking head content like this is strong enough to not need a backing track. Found it really distracting, especially if played 1.5x Thank you!!! Re: h265 I’m keen to test this out now, thanks for the heads up!
Huh! MKBHD converting R3D files into H.265
Here's the Windows advice:
Intel chips from the last 2-3 years have H.265 encoding/decoding that makes editing these files a breeze.
Anything from Intel 11th Gen and on, as long as the chip has an iGPU on board, will zip through these files like it's nothing.
Another big benefit is being able to edit off hard disks as opposed to SSDs.
When you’re juggling a lot of projects then even a 1 TB scratch disk starts filling up fast.
Such a coincidence - the timing of this video. Just told my editors to start transcoding to high bitrate h264 instead of ProRes 422 for non-ad projects.
Since we got two M1 Max MacBooks and a Mac Studio for our editors a while ago, the change made sense to me. Maybe I’ll try h265 for the next few videos and see how it goes.
And I’m going to be sending this video to everyone who expressed doubts about this change to our workflow 😂
You are so right. My MacBook Pro M1 14" edits H.264 and H.265 without any problem. We can get 10 bits in H.265 and save at the same time a lot of space. So, this helps us to create more videos easier and faster. Cheers!
What camera records h.265 4:2:2 ?
i agree, everyone should get onboard. i've worked with a videographer who shoots a wedding on a zcam in prores raw, at the end of the day he fills up a 2TB SSD, meanwhile I record in 30mbp/s h265, and my footage is less than 100gb. and u literally cannot tell the difference in quality. do ppl even know how long it takes to copy 2tb? it takes HOURS once the SLC cache fills up, even slower on spinning disks.
i can edit a multicam in 4k h265 on the mac studio with zero lag, and no background rendering, it's hours of your life saved.
Spot on. I cant believe i havent switched sooner. I run a weekly video podcast 4 cameras and h.265 is saves so much space and making my uploads to much lighter.
When I got my M1 Pro I tried the H.265 out on my C70 and have never gone back. For most of my work it's perfect for the small file sizes and ease of editing. A few clients still want All-I, and I still shoot H.264 to be conservative if another editor is working on it, just to be safe. One difference to note, and I don't know if this applies to all cameras but certainly does to the C70, is that H.265 is limited to 16bit audio internally, whereas you can record 24bit audio on the H.264 long-GOP or All-I. There is an audible difference in the quality of the bass when using a decent microphone. Will anyone notice? Probably not. Definitely not if you're just shooting for UA-cam/social content. Worth knowing though for some projects.
Interesting! I hadn't noticed that to be honest. Definitely worth knowing
@@carlyates2487 Yeah I doubt most people would notice so not something I would really worry about in most cases!
Thank you Liam for this. Something for me to think about 👍
I heavily agree. NLE companies need to focus on improving H.265 workflows too. It feels like they haven't because "They aren't editing Codecs" as so many have said. Tyler Stalman just did a poll on Twitter and far and way, the majority of respondents said they edit "H.264/5" footage. If the majority of people editing video are editing H.264/5, does the "They aren't editing codecs" hold up anymore?
My main camera is a GH6 and I've split my work between ProRes and H.265, but more and more I'm just using the H.265. I have a powerful PC that handles it fine. Heck when I do use ProRes, I transcode it all to H.265 once the project is complete for archiving.
I actually saw his poll while I was editing this video. I wished he had separated out H.264 and H.265 options as I am very curious. Perhaps we should do our own.
Would the iPad Pro M2 6thGen be powerful enough to edit H.265 iPhone footage?
I could not agree more. Storage can get very expensive very quickly.
It saves us SO much space!
Good video guys
I do agree about the storage space. I preordered a S5II and thought about getting an Atomos Ninja V and the HEVC upgrade to record H.26510-bit 4:2:2 to cut down on space, then I checked PC hardware decoding for h.256 4:2:2. I have a PC with an Intel Core i7 12700K and Nvidia RTX 3070 graphics card and no Nvidia (or any graphics cards I could find) support H.265 4:2:2 decoding, only 4:2:0 or 4:4:4 up to 12-bit. modern Intel CPUs can decode H.265 but I couldn't find out if they support 4:2:2 subsampling.
I plan on recording on the S5II in 5.9K for the higher quality and downsampling to 4K in editing but I would have preferred 4:2:2 over 4:2:0 if doing that.
Even Intel 14 gen meteolake is coming this year 2023 with 50% less power consumption than 13 gen laptops for same performance as 13 gen chips.
Super interesting, certainly great points. Have to test it out.
So you’re saying you switched workflow, and you’re keeping it?
I switched 2 years ago when I got my M1 Max Mac, I will never go back to any other codecs. the storage size is such a big difference.
Yes video editing app developer are lazy and not utilizing rtx 40 series GPU.
Intel 12 and 13 gen CPU igpu have upto 12 bit 4.4.4 but adobe is not utilizing. All video editing apps are bad as they are not utilizing hardware.
Av1 is more awesome as it is 20% more efficient than h.265. All Intel CPU have dual av1 decoders and rtx 40 series GPU have dual av1 encoders.
Build any 12 gen or 13 gen desktop with rtx 40 series.
You will get combined 3 encoders of h.265, h.264, etc and dual av1 encoders.
Also 3 decoders of h.265, h.254 and av1 all upto 10 bit.
Yes updates are still not out yet for video editing apps for ada rtx 40 series GPU but may be after Feb 2023 when laptops will go on sale, then they can realese updates for dual encoders of rtx 40 series and also av1 support.
Discord, obs studio are not video editing apps but they already provided av1 and dual encoders support for rtx 40 series GPU.
brother watch tech notice channel and you will get to know how fast and powerful Intel cpu with igpu have become from 11 gen.
It is very easy in building PC. Just don't buy CPU without igpu like 12600kf, 13700kf, don't buy CPU which has 'F' in model number. Buy 12600k, 13600k, 13700k etc. They all have all types of decoders and encoders upto h.265 4.4.4 12 bit. They also have av1 decoders. You have to use ddr5 ram. Even 250 dollars CPU is faster than any m1 or m2 max laptop.
Now rtx 40 series in laptops or desktops have dual encoders of h.264, hevc, av1 but video editing software still haven't released updates for dual encoders of rtx 40 series. Av1 is 20% efficient than hevc.
They were already powerful and now they became more powerful after 12 gen and rtx 40 series GPU.
Macs don't have av1 support.
All latest windows laptops and desktops have av1 encoders and decoders.
Intel 12 gen was launched before m1 max laptops and they are doing h.265 before apple.
All Intel 11 gen 12 gen and 13 gen which has igpu can encode h.265 upto 10 bit 16k resolution and decode upto 12 bit h.265 at 16k resolution.
You can check Intel website.
Hi ProAV TV, do you also export your editing in h.265 to youtube ?
I record everything into ProRES Atomos Ninja V+ and I'm still using my trusty iMac Pro (10 Core Xeon 64GB RAM) if in 2023 Apple doesn't release a iMac Pro with at least a M2 MAX or even better Ultra then I get the iStudio box. But why would I leave the ProRes workflow?
I’m skeptical of H.265 for my use case. I shoot ProRes HQ on Sony FX3/A7Siii and as I’m filming classic cars, I need to nail the colors pretty close. I edit on a 16” M1 MAX. File size is a drag but pulling ProRes into Final Cut is seamless, no proxies or optimization needed. I have found that optimizing H.265 is still needed, so that’s an extra step I can do without.
There should be no colour difference with h.265 to ProRes. As long as it’s still 10bit 4:2:2 which I believe it is in the FX3.
It is not speeding up your workflow if all is does it make a smaller size. Editing of files is what matters and that is a bottleneck unless users have M1 hardware.
thanks for this video, appreciate the insights as I'm looking at some point to upgrade my laptop. Just curious how many gb of ram you are using with your laptops. I think the most demanding thing I'm doing is using three stream of 4K in Multicam edits and some light effects in Premiere and After Effects. nothing too crazy with the effects as, other than color correcting, I'm still only applying effects here and there to videos.
@2:50 Really? I think you could have mentioned that Nvidia GPU's also have hardware decode on this format. My 3090 handles them flawlessly. Feel like a little more research on your part could have supported your argument further. A quick google search brought me to this page that lists the NVIDIA GPUS that support it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_NVDEC
I think he's referring to support for 4:2:2 in the h.265 format specifically. Nvidia and AMD have supported h.265 for quite a while, but only with 4:2:0 footage. However, I see from the chart you referenced that the last 3 Nvidia GPU generations (at least the higher end ones) have supported the deeper color depth.
They don’t support the h.265 4.2.2. That is the problem. My m1 max MacBook Pro slices through this footage like butter, whereas my 13900 with 3090ti struggles on the timeline with that particular footage. H.265 4.2.2 is becoming the default codec in most cameras. Amd and Nvidia need to add native engine hardware support to their video cards.
But it doesn't support every type of H.265. This is the problem, i'm certainly not saying that windows options can handle H.265, i'm saying that it can be confusing for users to find something that works for them.
@@RockyColaFizz If you have a 13900 you should have support for h.265 4.2.2 hardware decoding. If you have the 13900F or KF it doesn't have the IGPU so it won't have the hardware decoding. All intel chips starting with 11th gen have H.265 4.2.2 decoding, but you have to get the IGPU. And yes resolve will use both you IGPU and your dedicated card in tandem.
@@jessecumberledge4530 Yes it's not the F, and the CPU igpu does the decoding. It's certainly better than doing it on the 3090ti. But, its no where near as smooth or fast as the M1 Max sadly.
In Windows, Any modern GPU can Encode/Decode H. 265 easily.
Like nVidia RTX 20/30/40 Series, AMD RX 6000/7000 Series (Except RX 6500/6400), Iris Xe / ARC Series.
No only intel can do it well.. nvidia can do the 8bit version..but mostly made for streaming/live compression etc... its really slow and amd rx have no h265 decoder. Sadly only intel have a good h265 decoder right now! you may think your amd cpu is fast but its just because the raw cpu processing power are so improved now. Sadly some lag here and there and it destroys the smooth experience you get on m1. A basic mac mini m1 can easily edit 6k h265 footage or 4x4k h265 at the same time but a freaking 16 core amd cant do it without lags and delays lol. Its funny because in benchmark test the amd cpu maybe be 10x the m1 :)
@@loudmotion5639 any Intel 12 gen laptop can do easily at any price.
@@loudmotion5639 brother watch tech notice channel and you will get to know how fast and powerful Intel cpu with igpu have become from 11 gen.
It is very easy in building PC. Just don't buy CPU without igpu like 12600kf, 13700kf, don't buy CPU which has 'F' in model number. Buy 12600k, 13600k, 13700k etc. They all have all types of decoders and encoders upto h.265 4.4.4 12 bit. They also have av1 decoders. You have to use ddr5 ram. Even 250 dollars CPU is faster than any m1 or m2 max laptop.
Now rtx 40 series in laptops or desktops have dual encoders of h.264, hevc, av1 but video editing software still haven't released updates for dual encoders of rtx 40 series. Av1 is 20% efficient than hevc.
They were already powerful and now they became more powerful after 12 gen and rtx 40 series GPU.
Macs don't have av1 support.
All latest windows laptops and desktops have av1 encoders and decoders.
Intel 12 gen was launched before m1 max laptops and they are doing h.265 before apple.
@@loudmotion5639 Brother Intel 11 gen 12 gen and 13 gen which has igpu can encode h.265 4.4.4 upto 10 bit upto 16k resolution and decode upto 12 bit h.265 4.4.4 upto 16k resolution. You can check Intel website.
You don't need nvidia gpu for this work.
I hope Premier pro will provide dual encoder support for rtx 40 series and also dual av1 encoders and decoders as they are new and have massive upgrade from last gen 30 series. 40 series can do but Premier didn't provide support
We can record gameplay 4k 375fps on obs using dual av1 encoders and twitch also provided av1.
Av1 is 20% more efficient than h.265 and 40 series has dual av1 encoders.
30 series don't have av1 so they cannot even do 1440p 240fps and drops frames.
This shows how powerful media engines are present inside new rtx 40 series but all these video editing apps are lazy and bad.
Even davince works better than fcp in apple m1 and m2 systems.
@@HDRPC I know intels are good man..its the gpus that are not supported. But Av1 is mostly a streaming codec and not an editing codec so we wont see this soon into an NLE program..most cameras are recording in h265 422 or pro-res which is why its shining on m1 as their media engines are optimised for these :(
Completely agree -- I keep looking a RAW options, but the slightly better grading latitude just doesn't translate to real benefits (for me), whereas the crazy file sizes are a pain, and the new Apple silicon has leveled the playing field when it comes to editing performance.
There are absolutely projects and styles of work where RAW is hugely beneficial. But there are also styles of work where the smaller file sizes and faster workflow of H.265 is hugely beneficial. I think its important to choose the right tool for the job!
@@carlyates2487 Of course. Different strokes...
Raw is 12 bit and each frame is recorded separately, it has its advantage
@@petrub27 For professional colorists perhaps and film directors, but not to the vast majority of working videographers, I think. 🙂
@@carlyates2487 Brother Intel 11 gen 12 gen and 13 gen which has igpu can encode h.265 4.4.4 upto 10 bit upto 16k resolution and decode upto 12 bit h.265 4.4.4 upto 16k resolution. You can check Intel website.
You don't need nvidia gpu for this work.
I hope Premier pro will provide dual encoder support for rtx 40 series and also dual av1 encoders and decoders as they are new and have massive upgrade from last gen 30 series.
We can record gameplay 4k 375fps on obs using dual av1 encoders and twitch also provided av1.
Av1 is 20% more efficient than h.265 and 40 series has dual av2 encoders.
30 series don't have av1 so they cannot even do 1440p 240fps and drops frames.
This shows how powerful media engines are present inside new rtx 40 series but all these video editing apps are lazy and bad.
Even davince works better than fcp in apple m1 and m2 systems.
I agree with this. The only down side for me is I cannot shoot in that codec on my A7S3 and A7IV when in PAL mode, Sony needs to fix this.. H.265 is Cleary the future the storage space is such a game changer in my opinion.
Yes Sony are a bit behind the game when it comes to H.265 options.
H.265 is a storage game changer! The data range within RAW and ProRes is great but if you focus on nailing exposure, and WB in camera it won’t make a massive difference. Unless of course the client is asking for a specific color grade that will need the extra color latitude.
Av1 is new game changer for video
I'm wondering if Canon will add H.265 capability to the XF605 now that they have dropped the 705 from their lineup. We recently purchased the 605 for long-form corporate work (lectures, press conferences, etc.) where having this codec would seem ideal. It has H.264 but that doesn't seem to have all the same balance of benefits/tradeoffs. Do you have any thoughts on the use of HEVC as opposed to H.265 as that would be another compressed option?
The XF605 has H.265 - it's an MP4 file.
Sense I got my m1 MacBook Pro I’ve switched to h.265. My computer can handle it so I don’t see a real reason why not.
Exactly, it's still fantastic quality 10 bit footage.
are you editing using FCP or DaVinci? thanks for the effort and sharing. thumbs up.
We use DaVinci Resolve. Thanks for watching!
Some sony cameras won't shoot h265 in 25p
Correct. Why though, I have no idea!
What camera did you use to film this video?
Canon C70
On the same laptop I can edit REDcode R3D 6K raw footage yet I cant edit H265.
H265 is unworkable on most computers. You recommending H265 I doubt you tested it on windows computers.
All moderm Intel CPU like from 11 gen to 13 gen and now 14 gen is coming in late 2023 can decode and encode h.265 easily. 12 gen to now have av1 media engines also
@user-bs3mk5ed5r tell that to my brand new Surface Pro fully speced out. It eats redcode so easily never losing frames but editing H265 kills it. 4fps.
I think playing in media players and editing H265 is not the same. At least in resolve.
@@colourberry don't know about resolve. But in Premier pro, i am taking about lenevo Legion laptops, Asus laptops, msi raider ge67hx laptop which is most favorite for all types of work and play.
But from tomorrow 13 gen laptops with 40 series GPU are coming so better look at latest laptops. 12 gen is old and 30 series is 3 years old.
Always buy new.
These laptops will be way affordable than surface and way more performance and better battery
@@HDRPC My surface is new Surface 9 but its 12 gen. Only has an Intel gpu but handles all my 3D Blender needs when I travel and I dont have to make proxies to play RED footage. What I love about it is its portability. It lets me always have it with me. Fits in a small small backpack for walking about exploring when overseas with no weight. Perfect for coffee breaks. But it doesnt like H265.
He said “if you have one of these machines,” referencing an M1 or 2 Mac…
Hi Carl, as you suggested many of the latest Intel processors now include H265 handling under their Quicksync banner. Quicksync is not as far as I know available at all in the Intel workstation Xeon family. One reason Apple is so very popular for video work of course is the ability to write ProRes files, something that is expensive to achieve in a Windows setting as it requires specialist licensed software and is likely (!) to be slower than an inbuilt hardware solution as a result.
Ah excellent, hopefully that makes it easier for windows users. Although you still have to dive into some of the nitty-gritty details of your exact PC spec which can be really intimidating for some.
Absolutely, and ProRes is incredibly fast with M1 and M2 mac's.
@@carlyates2487 Hi Carl, my, that was quick. Yup, you're right about the complexities, I built my own then powerful Intel windows workstation some years ago now and researching the hardware took some considerable time and effort. It struggles with H265 and is now outperformed by a HP laptop! I agree about using H265 if viable - there are big cost savings.
@@carlyates2487 brother watch tech notice channel and you will get to know how fast and powerful Intel cpu with igpu have become from 11 gen.
It is very easy in building PC. Just don't buy CPU without igpu like 12600kf, 13700kf, don't buy CPU which has 'F' in model number. Buy 12600k, 13600k, 13700k etc. They all have all types of decoders and encoders upto h.265 4.4.4 12 bit. They also have av1 decoders. You have to use ddr5 ram. Even 250 dollars CPU is faster than any m1 or m2 max laptop.
Now rtx 40 series in laptops or desktops have dual encoders of h.264, hevc, av1 but video editing software still haven't released updates for dual encoders of rtx 40 series. Av1 is 20% efficient than hevc.
They were already powerful and now they became more powerful after 12 gen and rtx 40 series GPU.
Macs don't have av1 support.
All latest windows laptops and desktops have av1 encoders and decoders.
Intel 12 gen was launched before m1 max laptops and they are doing h.265 before apple.
h265 is awesome
Thanks for watching!
Av1 is more awesome as it is 20% more efficient than h.265. All Intel CPU have dual av1 decoders and rtx 40 series GPU have dual av1 encoders.
Build any 12 gen or 13 gen desktop with rtx 40 series.
You will get combined 3 encoders of h.265, h.264, etc and dual av1 encoders.
Also 3 decoders of h.265, h.254 and av1 all upto 10 bit.
Yes updates are still not out yet for video editing apps for ada rtx 40 series GPU but may be after Feb 2023 when laptops will go on sale, then they can realese updates for dual encoders of rtx 40 series and also av1 support.
Discord, obs studio are not video editing apps but they already provided av1 and dual encoders support for rtx 40 series GPU.
Video editing app developers are very lazy.
@@HDRPC alright 😄. but h265 is still cool, especially compared to h264
@@lukasmizerovsky yes bro. But we cannot live without av1.
We can encode 4k 375fps due dual av1 encoders in rtx 4080 while gaming using obs.
Rtx 3090 cannot do even 1440p 240fps, it drops frames. It shows how powerful media engines are there in rtx 40 series GPU and now they also supports h.265 10 bit.
For video editing Premier pro must have to provide first dual encoders support and then dual av1 encoder support.
Premier pro is very lazy. Even they are not utilizing full hardware of Intel 11, 12 and13 gen igpu which has tons of media engines but all these video editing softwares sucks and never utilize full hardware. Intel 11 gen 12 gen and 13 gen which has igpu can encode h.265 4.4.4 upto 10 bit 16k resolution and decode upto 12 bit h.265 4.4.4 at 16k resolution. You can check Intel website
Now davinchi supports but i don't like it that much.
Even davinchi works better than final cut in apple laptops and mac studios.
@@HDRPC alright, well what i can say is i don't actually use 16k. i use 4k, thats plenty for me...