the issue with blue boosting is that blue is the hive color you go to when you're lazy and you don't want to boost, as the honey it makes from macroing can exceed boosting when barely invested its also worth mentioning you could go boosting hive as blue, but it would involve using precise and vector bees, and pop gummy ssa, and you'd also need a huge investment into digital bee. At that point people just go white/red to make actual honey and have an overall better experience good video tho
@@riotlsd all fair points, but bro i remember playing pop gummy before buoyant bee, it was so fun but now gummy star got nerfed so its only 2 (or 2.5x idk) wp and goo instead of 4x goo 😭 thanks for stickin around btw
@@riotlsd honestly mentioning pop saw made me remember that i was supposed to include pop saw being a part of the meta cuz buoyant bee's attack would actually get so high so they could stay in the field infinitely eh
Well Tbf, a major factor in onett’s decision on the macroing situation is that, a lot of the players have premium. Which means the longer people play, the more he earns. Simple.
@GoofyEntity pine its the noob shop, and top shop is mixed (blue and red) mountain has no white flowers (idk why porcelain only boost white if mountain dont have it
Blue hive need a new field with level 3 flowers 1 badge like pepper patch make the farm more funny for players or fast,if onett upgrade the blue hive It wouldn't be the worst of the 3, since everyone uses it only to get to the red one and then the white one.
If Onett updated it should add a Maple field, Blueberry Field and Windmill field for endgame. As for endgame backpacks passives all going to their corresponding colors, white being gumdrops, Every 30th token would Spawn a Passive bee they last 20 seconds cooldown 5 mins, think of it like plants vs zombies mints They have their own abilities while also giving all corresponding colored bees +5 level power The bees are: "Pyro Bee" "Constel bee" and "Sticker Bee". Pyro bee spawns a "firework" token, as soon as it's collected think of it as TONS of explosive tokens in the field but they explode automatically,the bombs aren't as strong though Pyro bee Extends your precise stack by 5+. Constel Bee goes to convert on the hive on its own balloons included, if you are converting with it it gives you 2.5x convert instead. It's token Spawns a hot air balloon, merging all balloons in the field into one. Sticker bee speeds up your collector to the same speeds as a dark schyte but by an additional 1.2x, it's token just spawns 2 additional gummy bees. Now for the bear,i think it should be Royal bear? Perhaps not sure. Also Retro challenge revamp is needed A replace to the models like the slimes being Basic Wasps zombies Being Drone Wasps something like that..
This is a really great observation, I liked your video, very detailed and insightful, however, the real issue stems from onett allowing them to, and balancing blue hives around the ability to macro. IF they were able to boost as good as red or white both making 1qd and 2qd in boosts respectively, PLUS being able to get the honey from macroing, and use less mats, blue would be too strong. What Onett did is debatably the right choice, blue not being how it is would make the game way way harder to progress in, I know from experience. I think blue is in a good place, regardless of what you're trying to say in this video, which is great as I said before.
Tbh macro is still useful for other purposes, rather than just making honey. Such examples would be to do mondo chick/wealth clock/dispensers overnight while sleeping, or especially the Stump Snail. IMO macro should only be used for anything that you want to do overnight and not doing something that’s completely broken. Macro should be banned for making honey but should be allowed for other purposes (like the ones I mentioned above.)
y'know, I was planning to have a blue hive just because of how well I seemed to be doing in it compared to the other two, hell I even accidentally got a gifted tadpole bee when I was just trying to level it up (I had like 200-300 blueberries) so I was gonna roll with that + a little attack hive on the side kinda sad that macros ruined everything, and I always take joy in screwing their progress over for a bit, but man now I'm debating whether I'll still go blue or not
@MrSiringtonThe4th not like I was gonna get digital anyways, I'm at the mostly middle of midgame rn (I'd be at endgame but I take so many breaks) and robo challenge is absolute hell anyways thanks
if balloon honey tokens were reworked to give much more honey, balloon aura got a significant blue pollen multi and blue ic%, along with honey at hive and nectars both being nerfed to the ground, blue would actually make tons boosting compared to macroing
I've been a blue hive for almost half a year now and I'm still going to stay blue even if I almost have enough to switch to red. The honey blue makes from macroing is just too tempting for me to switch. Onett made blue way too op for macroing as they can still make up to 5t+ an hour outside of beesmas. (some people even make 10t an hour outside of beesmas.) But I might switch to red when I'm fully bored with blue.
How the heck are you making 5t an hr I’m lvl 20, using current meta hive, good mutations, good beequips, use resources on my macro and lag free server with 3 other players around similar skill level and I only make 1.5t an hr
@@gdrupert6313 Do you use a tad alt and, your hive composition is also very important remove filler/add filler bees. Experimenting with other patterns, and I believe your hive is fully gifted. Also your balloon blessing can increase your hourly by a lot so I recommend doing a rbc boost for at least a 70x blessing (if unlucky) but 80x+ is better for lvl 20.
It’s not onett’s fault; as you stated in the video, macros are what caused the blue meta to be ruined. This is not onett’s fault. He should not and did not have to take in to account if his players would be lazy enough to let a program play the game for them as they can’t be bothered to do so. The state blue hives are in currently is much more our fault than it is onett’s.
i would imagine if he disallowed it he would just wipe anyone who was on for anytime longer than two days straight or just unusually long periods of time
@@MrSiringtonThe4th that’s fair. I think I’ve just been pessimistic about the bee swarm community because most endgame guides I see now just say to switch to blue and macro to progress.
3:13 I think you mixed up with thinking satisfying nectar gave 1.5x HAH, it only gives 1.05x HAH, so the max multiplier is actually 2.625x Edit: When I spread misinformation on the internet (sat does give 1.5x HAH)
it seems to me that honey from tokens is not used in blue, because boosts on hah, 5 full nectar are better on a macro than the same honey from tokens. WELL, we have something (maybe there really is a secret meta for honey from tokens). p.s. I translated this text (there may be errors)
i hope so, thats all i can say (i dont know lmao no blue hive plays actively 24/7) windy is debatable in blue hives because it pops bubbles for you but then it takes away pollen from balloons
I’m a level 15 blue hive who hasn’t macroed once. And by 2026 I’ll have gummy baller according to my calculations, I’m trying to keep playing and stay strong and when I keep seeing all these macro players I keep wanting to quit they just get to my level in a few months while it tools me years of just logging on everyday but I really wanna go far in bee swarm without macroing!
imo, i hate macro. not macro USERS but the program its self and its use. bss is one of my all time favourite roblox games, been playing it basically around the start. i loved it, up until this beesmas. when god damn stickers came out. i love stickers i really do, but making them required for quests with some INSANE sticker requirements make it really obvious that onett intended macro to be used for them. as a person who doesnt macro because 1 im a mobile player. 2 i dont want to figure out all the complicated bs i need to do in order to use it. it was so incredibly painful spending 5+ hrs in mountain with 10 diamond bees. it SUCKED. as well as spending OVER A DAY in the hive hub. im a late midgame player, and whenever i watch ANY bss guide now, its always the first few tips where everyones glazing natro macro. i feel like stickers being needed in quests outside of the sticker seeker quests really ruined it for me. bss now feels like any other game with trading. like adopt me. i hate how the whole meta revolves around natro macro now. im kinda scared to become an endgame player because of planters and stuff. because wdym 12 hrs of ingame playtime? obv onett made the hydrophonic, heat treated, and petal planter FOR endgame macroers. i cant go 1 server without seeing a blue hive macro in pine. and also, i dont want to be a blue hive because of macro. the whole meta of blue hives IS macro. without it, i dont think blue hives would be the meta yk? sorry for all the yapping lol. but tldr; macro overcomplicates bss, and without it, blue hives probably wouldnt be meta, and sticker required quests wouldve either became easier to get (ie: making them more common to get, or picking more common stickers), and planters probably wouldnt be a thing either.
Blue hive red hive white hive and mixed hive all the hives lived in harmony untill the blue hive used macro and onnet never did anything and the bears of the bee swarm universe have failed so the last non marco user had to save the world. Bee swarm simulator avatar nockoff in theaters never
Yeah I think Onett should ban macroing as I have a life and I still play bss nearly getting my first end game tool dark scyth so it’s nit that hard as I only play 4-1 hours a day😊
I am a blue hive that doesnt macro i have stage 747474747747474747474 back pain and stage 7373747477474746464646464646477575 ligma i think its worth it bc now i see slightly bigger pixels
I mean, if Onett bans macro, 70% of the player count would be gone lol. I never macro and I know that manual grinding is a pain. Though I think macro shall be ban and Onett needs to do a huge rework to his game.
uh so the issue with early red is youll likely never progress because of how expensive early red is, early blue is used as a building block into other colors
yall im ashamed of the bss community, get this man to at least 1k subs
i agree
@@MrSiringtonThe4th i changed my mind
@@MrSiringtonThe4th 10k
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Yo BSG hi
All started when onett gave the OK to macroing. That's why the whole endgame is balanced around people "playing" for 18h a day
dude i was gonna say like planters wouldve never been a thing had macroing never been introduced
@@MrSiringtonThe4thplanters only exist cuz of macroing. No sane person sitting around for a 10+ hr planter to grow
the only reason he green lighted macroing is he doesn’t really care if people actively play or not as long as they’re still playing his game
of course, its a strategy to make him more money
@@dark-death6982I'm doing this rn lol
Blue hives: living on the streets asking for a honey donation
Meanwhile, white hives : living in their 5 star mega mansion
bro facts
hi duck
Hi
the issue with blue boosting is that blue is the hive color you go to when you're lazy and you don't want to boost, as the honey it makes from macroing can exceed boosting when barely invested
its also worth mentioning you could go boosting hive as blue, but it would involve using precise and vector bees, and pop gummy ssa, and you'd also need a huge investment into digital bee. At that point people just go white/red to make actual honey and have an overall better experience
good video tho
@@riotlsd all fair points, but bro i remember playing pop gummy before buoyant bee, it was so fun but now gummy star got nerfed so its only 2 (or 2.5x idk) wp and goo instead of 4x goo 😭 thanks for stickin around btw
@ yeah broo it was so good 🔥🔥 rly loved when the meta was pop gum and pop saw
@@riotlsd honestly mentioning pop saw made me remember that i was supposed to include pop saw being a part of the meta cuz buoyant bee's attack would actually get so high so they could stay in the field infinitely
eh
Well Tbf, a major factor in onett’s decision on the macroing situation is that, a lot of the players have premium. Which means the longer people play, the more he earns. Simple.
Tbh i wish white hives could have a white hq inside of spider cave...
Thats would bee nice
then the hq would he over the top shop or even pineapple
@GoofyEntity pine its the noob shop, and top shop is mixed (blue and red) mountain has no white flowers (idk why porcelain only boost white if mountain dont have it
are you guys forgeting about gummy bear??
@babooshan would be also cool if gummy bear arc becomes a social bear (Happy new year guy!!!)
Life was sunshine and rainbows when tide popper made frogs jump and create more bubbles 🙏
Had that for 12 hours when i bought the popper
readd this...
omg prest the goat
Blue hive need a new field with level 3 flowers 1 badge like pepper patch make the farm more funny for players or fast,if onett upgrade the blue hive It wouldn't be the worst of the 3, since everyone uses it only to get to the red one and then the white one.
stump field and fuzzies exists, pinecones carrying pine tree, so blue aint really need new field
@@cxttxn stump field is not on the 35 bee zone, its on the 10.
@@talegamer1310 so?
If Onett updated it should add a Maple field, Blueberry Field and Windmill field for endgame.
As for endgame backpacks passives all going to their corresponding colors, white being gumdrops,
Every 30th token would Spawn a Passive bee they last 20 seconds cooldown 5 mins, think of it like plants vs zombies mints
They have their own abilities while also giving all corresponding colored bees +5 level power
The bees are: "Pyro Bee" "Constel bee" and "Sticker Bee". Pyro bee spawns a "firework" token, as soon as it's collected think of it as TONS of explosive tokens in the field but they explode automatically,the bombs aren't as strong though Pyro bee Extends your precise stack by 5+.
Constel Bee goes to convert on the hive on its own balloons included, if you are converting with it it gives you 2.5x convert instead. It's token Spawns a hot air balloon, merging all balloons in the field into one.
Sticker bee speeds up your collector to the same speeds as a dark schyte but by an additional 1.2x, it's token just spawns 2 additional gummy bees.
Now for the bear,i think it should be Royal bear? Perhaps not sure. Also Retro challenge revamp is needed
A replace to the models like the slimes being Basic Wasps zombies Being Drone Wasps something like that..
@@cxttxnthere is a very ugly and big monster in stump
as a fellow red hive thats been blue a couple of times this is honestly true, you earned a sub
tiding my popper rn 🔥
pretty Underrated channel, my dude got a new sub
lets gooo
Extremely underrated. You just earned a sub!
thanks mate! more to come
This is a really great observation, I liked your video, very detailed and insightful, however, the real issue stems from onett allowing them to, and balancing blue hives around the ability to macro. IF they were able to boost as good as red or white both making 1qd and 2qd in boosts respectively, PLUS being able to get the honey from macroing, and use less mats, blue would be too strong. What Onett did is debatably the right choice, blue not being how it is would make the game way way harder to progress in, I know from experience. I think blue is in a good place, regardless of what you're trying to say in this video, which is great as I said before.
thanks for stopping by, im just tryna say onett tried implementing one playstyle but failed to do so is all
Tbh macro is still useful for other purposes, rather than just making honey. Such examples would be to do mondo chick/wealth clock/dispensers overnight while sleeping, or especially the Stump Snail.
IMO macro should only be used for anything that you want to do overnight and not doing something that’s completely broken. Macro should be banned for making honey but should be allowed for other purposes (like the ones I mentioned above.)
please make more videos like this and ur pink eraser video, these were extremely fun to watch
i wanna play blue hft meta so bad 😭🙏
y'know, I was planning to have a blue hive just because of how well I seemed to be doing in it compared to the other two, hell I even accidentally got a gifted tadpole bee when I was just trying to level it up (I had like 200-300 blueberries) so I was gonna roll with that + a little attack hive on the side
kinda sad that macros ruined everything, and I always take joy in screwing their progress over for a bit, but man now I'm debating whether I'll still go blue or not
still go blue, its cheaper and more consistent than red and white and u dont need digi
@MrSiringtonThe4th not like I was gonna get digital anyways, I'm at the mostly middle of midgame rn (I'd be at endgame but I take so many breaks) and robo challenge is absolute hell
anyways thanks
if balloon honey tokens were reworked to give much more honey, balloon aura got a significant blue pollen multi and blue ic%, along with honey at hive and nectars both being nerfed to the ground, blue would actually make tons boosting compared to macroing
Imo. Hide balloons so we can run precise
@@Kortneyelmcity i love Precise Bee
@ cant see the precise marks with balloons
Great video and great music. Thank you sir
good video and good editing, music a little too loud though
still, good job
noted i will turn down the music next time
it wasnt loud at all
I've been a blue hive for almost half a year now and I'm still going to stay blue even if I almost have enough to switch to red. The honey blue makes from macroing is just too tempting for me to switch. Onett made blue way too op for macroing as they can still make up to 5t+ an hour outside of beesmas. (some people even make 10t an hour outside of beesmas.) But I might switch to red when I'm fully bored with blue.
you switch to red whenever you want to work on your digi bee
How the heck are you making 5t an hr I’m lvl 20, using current meta hive, good mutations, good beequips, use resources on my macro and lag free server with 3 other players around similar skill level and I only make 1.5t an hr
@@gdrupert6313 are you using nectars?
@@gdrupert6313 Do you use a tad alt and, your hive composition is also very important remove filler/add filler bees. Experimenting with other patterns, and I believe your hive is fully gifted. Also your balloon blessing can increase your hourly by a lot so I recommend doing a rbc boost for at least a 70x blessing (if unlucky) but 80x+ is better for lvl 20.
@ alright thanks for the help
I'm looking to create THE defense hive. I'm terrible at the game and get killed by everything. Hive gurus, how would this be accomplished?
theres no bees that increase dodge chance or defense so just make some epic attack hive
Only if we can stack the tide blessing faster and easier...
Did the Tide Popper get nerfed that hard?
@@DevelSiXtenZ actually when was it buffed i dont know myself
It’s not onett’s fault; as you stated in the video, macros are what caused the blue meta to be ruined. This is not onett’s fault. He should not and did not have to take in to account if his players would be lazy enough to let a program play the game for them as they can’t be bothered to do so. The state blue hives are in currently is much more our fault than it is onett’s.
i mean to be fair he gave the greenlight on macroing...
@@MrSiringtonThe4th in my opinion, people would do it either way. If onett hadn’t allowed it, only a few people would be deterred.
@@calamitalcomputersbarely see macroing in other games
+ risking your acc is crazy
i would imagine if he disallowed it he would just wipe anyone who was on for anytime longer than two days straight or just unusually long periods of time
@@MrSiringtonThe4th that’s fair. I think I’ve just been pessimistic about the bee swarm community because most endgame guides I see now just say to switch to blue and macro to progress.
3:13 I think you mixed up with thinking satisfying nectar gave 1.5x HAH, it only gives 1.05x HAH, so the max multiplier is actually 2.625x
Edit: When I spread misinformation on the internet (sat does give 1.5x HAH)
@@ginsi936 satisfying gives 1.5x hah, but 1.05x hpp
@@MrSiringtonThe4th I may have mixed them up then lol
no worries, technically at the minimum amount of nectar the hah buff is 1.05 lol
underrated?
what a great vid
thats why we need blue-red rbc hive :fire:
Get this man to 100k
i agree
@@MrSiringtonThe4th playbutton unboxing video when
when i hit 8 billion subscribers or tomorrow i havent decided yet
@@MrSiringtonThe4th 🫃🏿
it seems to me that honey from tokens is not used in blue, because boosts on hah, 5 full nectar are better on a macro than the same honey from tokens. WELL, we have something (maybe there really is a secret meta for honey from tokens).
p.s. I translated this text (there may be errors)
nice editing
You just got a new sub
there are some advanced macros or exploit macros out there that do go towards tokens, but im not sure if they are allowed or not
@@IanFerrer-c7o they arent!
Is honey from tokens for blue hive good if you're playing actively?
i hope so, thats all i can say (i dont know lmao no blue hive plays actively 24/7)
windy is debatable in blue hives because it pops bubbles for you but then it takes away pollen from balloons
I’m a level 15 blue hive who hasn’t macroed once. And by 2026 I’ll have gummy baller according to my calculations, I’m trying to keep playing and stay strong and when I keep seeing all these macro players I keep wanting to quit they just get to my level in a few months while it tools me years of just logging on everyday but I really wanna go far in bee swarm without macroing!
Just give up and play an actual game tbh
@Rift0567 it is an actual game
0:01 It was on 2021?!?. Im getting old ;-;
imo, i hate macro. not macro USERS but the program its self and its use.
bss is one of my all time favourite roblox games, been playing it basically around the start. i loved it, up until this beesmas. when god damn stickers came out. i love stickers i really do, but making them required for quests with some INSANE sticker requirements make it really obvious that onett intended macro to be used for them. as a person who doesnt macro because 1 im a mobile player. 2 i dont want to figure out all the complicated bs i need to do in order to use it. it was so incredibly painful spending 5+ hrs in mountain with 10 diamond bees. it SUCKED. as well as spending OVER A DAY in the hive hub. im a late midgame player, and whenever i watch ANY bss guide now, its always the first few tips where everyones glazing natro macro. i feel like stickers being needed in quests outside of the sticker seeker quests really ruined it for me. bss now feels like any other game with trading. like adopt me. i hate how the whole meta revolves around natro macro now. im kinda scared to become an endgame player because of planters and stuff. because wdym 12 hrs of ingame playtime? obv onett made the hydrophonic, heat treated, and petal planter FOR endgame macroers. i cant go 1 server without seeing a blue hive macro in pine. and also, i dont want to be a blue hive because of macro. the whole meta of blue hives IS macro. without it, i dont think blue hives would be the meta yk?
sorry for all the yapping lol. but tldr; macro overcomplicates bss, and without it, blue hives probably wouldnt be meta, and sticker required quests wouldve either became easier to get (ie: making them more common to get, or picking more common stickers), and planters probably wouldnt be a thing either.
i understand bro, this game failed you mobile folk out there
@MrSiringtonThe4th we were done SO dirty 😔
this comment is the exact reason i dont macro
Blue hives don’t need any new buffs, if you wanna debate talk to me!
tide popper should be buffed to convert 15% (up from 8%) of your convert total, then the amount converted is scaled up by your HFT stat
get this guy 1k subs 🙏
agree
the reason why i prefer red even for ealy endgame i dont macro
nice vid
i mean, i dont have to suffer for good honeys...
(i want to be white hive)
its OP but boring as hell
like imagine spending like half an hour just to convert as gigantic balloon
this is why i switched from blue
it takes around like 2 mins to convert a balloon
We need blue buff bro
1500 dollars
now where's the red video
i think red is played exactly as it was intended, if i find something that says otherwise then ill make a red video
Be real, people, almost everyone doesn't even actually play the game anymore.
Blue hive red hive white hive and mixed hive all the hives lived in harmony untill the blue hive used macro and onnet never did anything and the bears of the bee swarm universe have failed so the last non marco user had to save the world. Bee swarm simulator avatar nockoff in theaters never
Macro at your risk, my motherboard's 1 ram slot literally failed because I did it too much lol
macroers ruined all my honeymaking >:(
would u ban them All?
Actually mobile has "macro" too also known as hacks
then you get wiped and lose your Everything
Yeah I think Onett should ban macroing as I have a life and I still play bss nearly getting my first end game tool dark scyth so it’s nit that hard as I only play 4-1 hours a day😊
@@Blitzario how many days?
Tips for Petal wand user
@@JarredMatthewTongol dont get petal wand
The editing in this video 🤩
Math is weird
Bee swarm simulator is an example 😐
agree
Bee swarm simulator should be a subject of math XD
I am a blue hive that doesnt macro i have stage 747474747747474747474 back pain and stage 7373747477474746464646464646477575 ligma i think its worth it bc now i see slightly bigger pixels
i love Slightly Larger Pixels
womp womp bro
blue hive need buffs🗿
has anyone actually tried playing blue that way?
Me 💀
@@skillissueee7426 was it good?
Onett should do the blue hive and the game as he wanted because macro kill the game
really good vids (last 2)
next one will be fire too...
blue is still op as fuck
the comment glazers😭😭😭
I mean, if Onett bans macro, 70% of the player count would be gone lol. I never macro and I know that manual grinding is a pain. Though I think macro shall be ban and Onett needs to do a huge rework to his game.
Exactly
Hate to break it to u but if he ever removed macros game would be dead, most he can do is nerf it but he defo isn't banning it
blue hive propaganda is crazy dawg 😭🙏 my ahh got forced and harassed for being early red by these blue hivers 💔
Early red is worse than early blue my guy
@@UrAverageBritishMapperStill it is not correct to harass people just because they dont follow the meta and want to have fun
uh so the issue with early red is youll likely never progress because of how expensive early red is, early blue is used as a building block into other colors
wild
Facts
I really hate macroing
Womp womp macro bots
This game used to be good until macro got popular and ruined this shit
Yooo
Onett should make the Windy Bee into a Mini-Star Saw. Who agrees with me?
Good it will teach y'all to stop being lazy macro players
bc blue sucks
And yet still make more than red
Blueberry feild 🫐
With level 3 flowers