Are near death experiences real?John Burke and Dr. Eben Alexander MD hosted by Billy Hallowell
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
- Everyone from Madonna to top neuroscientists and millions of other people around the world report personal, unforgettable near-death experiences or NDEs. Do these NDE accounts prove the existence of a loving God? This week on Unbelievable? Pastor and author John Burke, who has studied and examined over 1,000 accounts of near-death experiences, explains these reports provide faith-building evidence of God and the Bible.
Neurosurgeon Dr. Eben Alexander joins the debate pushing back on Burke’s assertion theses NDEs corroborate the Bible. He always considered himself a man of science. His unwavering belief in evidence-based medicine fuelled a career in the top medical institutions of the world. But then a very vivid NDE that he writes about it in his riveting book "Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon's Journey into the Afterlife" changed his life forever. His NDE followed being pronounced ‘clinically dead’ after falling into a coma with bacterial meningitis. He moved from being a strict physicalist to being some form of dualist and talks with experience of a life beyond death. But he still would not describe himself as a Christian.
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I agree with the idea that finding proof of God not only in the NDE experiences, but also in history. The Bible chronicles God’s encounters with humans. Burke makes sense.
Also the little things some people experience throughout their life, making you believe that you are not alone and that we are all being observed. I have listened to some NDE which have left some very depressed. In the more recent cases, it sounds like it is all so beautiful, so amazing. And I wonder if the wrong doings, even evil like killing don’t really matter once we leave this physical experience. No hell. Being Spirit sounds so much better, what are we all doing here ?
@@MsHumble4I understand what you are saying. Based on reading about numerous NDEs, I have often wondered if some of these things that we perceive as “evil” here on earth may very well be things that aren’t necessarily good or evil on the other side but things that have to happen here for some weird reason. I believe this is what they mean by do not judge others and do not judge their actions. I think this might be true because we have no idea what these people’s purpose is.
Absolutely and well said
@@lizhoward9754we Personalities value love, goodness, truth, and beauty.
The challenges here on earth, relative to evil/error, is a journey of righteous growth, peace, and character development.
NDEs are important connections with what lay beyond our material bodies. But I'd like to give a shout out to near-life-experiences. The first time I held my first born daughter, I felt 18 years go by in a moment. My breath was taken away. And 18 years felt not long enough to have her all to ourselves. Temporal perspective seems to be at times flexible during consciousness, and on a gradient among people. A gift from Him.
The Bible says otherwise. When the Bible is compared with what people say about NDEs it is clear that NDEs don't represent reality.
I think what is important to remind the materialist is, there are more books written in the name of science on consciousness, without a scientific consensus. This speaks volumes.
My good friend told me about a NDE he had as a teenager and then said “ I don’t think I’ve ever told anyone that”.
Empty beautiful city with an old man caretaker . He did say soon as he figured out where he was, he wanted to see his childhood dog that died, or thought that, and the dog was there.
I was shocked he kept it to himself.
Scripture is the guide post !
I have dabbled in the study of NDE’s for several years. My desire to know more started with the death of my father in 1994, and again after the death of my mother in February 2023. My studies began with a curiosity about death and the experience of it. Eventually, I began to look more closely at the ancient teachings, not just the Bible, but Buddhism, Judaism and Islam, and the ancient religions as well, and where they stand on death. Before I continue, I should add that I have had many supernatural and paranormal experiences throughout my life, that would include apparitions, OBE’s, and, maybe an NDE, though I can’t say for sure. What my studies and my personal experience has shown me is that God is, indeed, very real, and so …is Yeshua. What I found most confusing regarding everything I have gathered in studies and experience, so far, is the near death experience of hell. I cannot be dismissive of those who have experienced hell, but when they come back with their stories, most of them become very heavily rooted in Christianity and the concept that we must follow Christ or we’re doomed. While I can understand why they would do that, their message and experience is completely controversial to the other experiencers who see heaven; their experience may or may not include a vision of the Christ, but they are very clear about the true benevolence of our Creator. The strongest message that I have gotten from my experience and studies, is that true love for our Creator is the greatest gift, and one that we can impart to ourselves and all of humanity. That, of course, opens up another question on how we do that. For many people it’s difficult to understand how to love something that we cannot define, or see, but the depth of our Creator goes far beyond any words that any dictionary can offer, that of course is a conversation of another kind. Thank you for bringing this interview to us, Billy. It was very enlightening.
Thank you John Burke.
I found the comment section more interesting and enlightening than the debate in this instance - a rare event indeed!
I am obsessed with ndes and a follower of Jesus. Its about time someone got these two together. Loved it, thank you!!!
Man it's crazy to me these videos don't have millions of views. I've been on a search for god my whole life and recently I've had true faith that he's real. I'm in my mid 30s now and I've noticed during the worst times in my life I turn to god and things seem to work out, always. During these times my life is filled with insane coincidences that happen on a daily basis. When I pray during these times, I feel different, I even get goosebumps sometimes. This has been consistent throughout my life. I was an atheist until I was in my early 20s and became agonistic when I realized it is just as foolish to believe there is no god, you cannot know that. Now I have fully accepted there is a god and my mood has changed for the better, life is still not easy but it feels worth fighting for. What really changed is when I started talking to god daily, even on good days. Oh, and genuinely praying for others. Everything must be genuine.
I spent 10 days in a medical induced coma for 10 days after flattening 3 times. I experienced both sides at the same time......knowing everything that went on with my body while I was experienced the spiritual realm.
During the pandemic, people on ventilators spoke of this . Doctors call it ER psychosis or something like that. Mostly horrific nightmares they couldn’t escape.
That's very interesting ! Please could you tell us something about what you experienced? Did you have another kind of "body" or were you just pure consciousness perhaps ?
My sister saw her dog PD that she had when she was a little girl, and she died at 50 from Cancer
Why dont we have an nde day to inform more people about theses experiences..create awareness...like april 15 celebrating nde day..if theses stories are true let people know. [NDE Day] we need to take this futher then youtube testimonies
That's not actually such an outlandish idea, you know. Maybe we will have when we finally shut down (through conclusive evidence) the sceptics.
Great conversation ~ thank you!
Rajiv Parti also talked about past lives in his NDE, he was a medieval prince, so that complicates that case a little.
who wrote the bible? …People! I I was not there…believe in yourself, in the god within you…not in dogmas (any religion)...don't believe everything they say…start investigating for yourself.
Thanks
Bingo!! You nailed it beautifully. That would make a GREAT bumper sticker: “Believe in the God within you and not in dogmas”.
that was a fantastic show
"When necessary, forgiveness" is a problem for me.
1:01:14 - bingo! This exactly the trouble with people who can’t let go of their earth taught dogma to hear what these NDErs experienced and what they are saying. Getting caught up in these rules and rigid beliefs are really harmful to the people who believe in them
So it's a debate between two people who agree on the topic?
Well because near death experiences are real.
The real debate is weather or not they are indicative of a supernatural after life or not.
That being said most of the evidence points to that they are natural.
Who said it is a debate?
@@magicjim1the intro
@@magicjim1It’s not a debate; it’s a brainwashing!
There is a slight difference between them. One wants to show that everything positive about a NDE is what is in the Bible and Christianity (yet he ignores all the other evil things the Bible god does and threatens). The other is saying the NDE is not about earthly dogma, exclusivity, or religion but it is about love, inclusivity and the divine.
33:08 - very good point he brings up about the accuracy of eye witness testimonies in a court of law and NDEs.
I believed in nothing beyond science until I learned otherwise. I learned LOVE and ONE. I knew nothing beforehand as I never grew up around religion and have never read the Bible. My brain could not have made it up.
Yes. Also, don’t they both affirm yes?
The soul (Mind, Intellect, Memory) is eternal so the notion of after-life or pre-life is a moot point.
When a soul departs the body, the body becomes a corpse. NDE's is when the consciousness of the soul has left the body, rather than the soul itself. Consider these experiences as visions from the subconscious mind.
55:32 - I wonder how John Burke explains the tens of thousands of people, including Christians, agnostics, Muslims, etc., who did not experience Jesus in their NDEs but felt Mohammed and other deities? Or people who experienced God but no other holy person such as Buddha or Jesus or Mohammed? The problem I have with his point of view is that it limits itself to western Christianity and the Abrahamic Bible and not NDEs from people of other faiths or experiences of Christians that did not see what he thinks the Bible describes. He seems to ignore these accounts. He also cherry picks the Bible verses that sound great and supports his point-of-view. All holy books speak about this loving god so I am not sure how the Bible is any different than other holy books. He ignores what Dr Alexander is saying in 1:01
People believe and have so much faith in ancient people's accounts, yet we don't believe living breathing people like Dr. Alexander telling us their accounts. It's time we wake up.
I didnt hear his explanation for "re-incarnation". And all NDE are different.. you have to hear from a large amout of cases to get to conclusions and, Clearly, John Burke was away more assertive and true
God Force?
I feel like I was born believing in God. I did stop breathing once as an infant and my mom found me and put me under cold water. Maybe I went home for a minute
Burke's statement about there being a "point" in which the dead person cannot cross seems to me the defining difference between the two views. Burke's stance is that the person knows if they cross they cannot return to their earthly body. I don't recall Dr. Alexander addressing this "point of no return". Did anyone hear what Alexander said in this regard?
What an exciting interview! We are the creatures of a Merciful, Loving, Almighty Creator! Hence, we shall reflect this mercy and love to others
NDE’s … how do we merge the ET phenomenon with this topic ? They are both, in my view of equal importance and potentially connected.
Yes. Though it largely depends on which ones reported are authentic
How would you differentiate the authentic ones from mere hallucinations?
@@onionbelly_ Rule out the ones that are not theologically consistent and contain things based on false teachings and/or misconceptions
@@paradisecityX0 Couldn't it be theologically consistent and still not be real?
@@onionbelly_ It's possible
@@paradisecityX0 Then my initial question still stands.
I can tell by the hand waving and categorical errors made in the comments that this topic is severely understudied.
Kinda disturbing how many ppl openly proclaim the supremacy of death
It's actually a good thing its understudied. If it becomes too popular then everybody will claim an nde and lie for popularity.
@@Cassim125 there is truth to your claim. I’m already finding several that seem falsified. Especially those who claim they were “supposed to write a book”.
@@jedphillips9362 yes of course. Ive seen quite a few and studied quite alot of arguments to suggest they are real but there are exwggeratiins and fabrications. Its why the statististical patterns are needed to understand it
As a layman, I have been studying NDE's for over 30 years. To all the naysayers: One day you will know the truth. God is real, Jesus is real and the afterlife is real.
St Theresa Little flower said 3 times Jesus stood before her the first two was not him. I think our Lord hears and care for us each deeply. I think Love is the answer I hear the love from John Burke.
Even if an angel of light come to you preaching any other gospel let him be a cursed....Jesus is the only way to Heaven.
Yes, George!! Yes!! I was troubled over hearing of people who weren't Christians speak of the Love, the light, the beautiful welcome of ancestors, when having NDE's. And then there's the past life stuff. I read through them, especially negative ones looking for similarities. Frustrated, I put it all on the back burner labeled undetermined. After hearing Bryan Melvin speak of his experience and listening to his extensive Bible prophecy teaching, I got an important clue. He mentioned that if he went back at a certain point, he would have also reported Bliss. But then he was able to see through the deception. Look him up on yt. I felt the greatest ring of truth from him. Check it out!!
I appreciate these discussions.
So disappointed by the repeated use of the term "god-force" in the account given by Dr. Eben Alexander.
Also perplexed by the description of a female angel.
The Bible tells us about a personal GOD, not a god-force, and I don't know of any female angels in the Bible. In my opinion those two points contrast with what is revealed in the Bible.
I don't know what Dr. Alexander experienced, but it does not corroborate what I know of GOD's Word.
Hope he continues to seek Truth.
Yeah, the truth that he was deceived and recruited to pay that deception forward!
Have you considered that maybe it is you who is deceived, by assuming that the bible is true and that the god of the bible is the true god? The flood story from The Epic of Gilgamesh was rewritten as Noah's Ark, and other things were taken or rewritten from older religions. The bible also has false prophecies like how it predicted Tyre would be destroyed by the king of Babylon and not rebuild, yet it still exists even now.
You need to open your mind a bit and let go of these earthly things you have been told are “right” or “wrong.” Just maybe what you have read, heard and been told is only partially right.
All translations of the word God are simply that- earthly language attempting to speak that which cannot be named-the I AM is how God presents Godself to Moses-The Word is how John begins his description of how God became flesh and dwelt among us. Language is limiting. God has no limits. Also, the “female angel” is a lovely surprise described in Dr. Alexander’s book that I hope you will read.” Now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face.” We will know the whole truth only when we meet God. Until then, let us be loving and appreciate the uniqueness of each one’s journey. ❤
@@lizhoward9754I'll stick with the King James Version of the Holy Bible, thank you! It has not mislead me yet, although the men in suits by dry erase boards certainly have!
As an former esotherian converted to Jesus, i fully agree with John Burke. I like Dr. Alexander, but his pantheistic mysthicism is leading into self-salvation. When children talk about past lifes, they always die young in a an accident or crime in their "past life"
That alone should throw doubt on the whole subject! Demons are probably kicking themselves for not all staying on the same page! Children are all born possessed by demons due to the fact that Satan currently holds the deed to the earth and everyone born in it unless they ask to be bought out of Satan’s possession by the blood of Jesus Christ. My own son at age five reported what seemed to be past life memories and I did notice his slight trance-like state while doing it! Be sure that you have let God know that you wish to have the sacrificial blood of Jesus applied to your account because only by having his righteousness on your account will you be granted eternal life as a gift with no strings attached: Ephesians 2:8&9; 4:30; Colossians 1:14 KJV - it’s all good!
Just from a LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, how can God be a fair Judge if he allows only a fraction of the human race to experience the “truth” they claim is from him, and the rest are kept in the dark or are getting their supernatural information from the inspired scriptures that God gave as his final authority of faith and morals? Reincarnation is not supported by scripture; actually it’s just the opposite: Hebrews 9:27.
I speculate that perhaps today’s humans are more easily able to go into the state of altered consciousness necessary for spirit beings (and God’s elect angels are on stand down during this dispensation of the mystery, Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 2:18 KJV) to produce a vision/locution in the minds of those in that altered state. Cui bono?
The argument that God would be unfair to show some people the truth through NDEs while others have to have faith in the bible, can also be used against christianity itself. Jesus supposedly revealed himself to some men and his true nature, but everyone else just have to have faith in the bible, so that wouldn't be fair either.
@@lovestarlightgiver2402Good point and I have considered that myself but had to come to the conclusion there was a necessity for human eyewitnesses while the Bible was being written and those witnesses needed confirmation/proof that would inspire them to record their experiences. If the nation of Judah had adequately recognized Jesus as the prophesied messiah, we would not be having this discussion; but they did not, and thus, the Lord of Glory is not physically with us on this earth plane (although he is supernaturally able to be everywhere at once); so while we wait for the day of his appearing here on the earth (Colossians 3:4), we are free to believe the inspired, preserved word of God or not; and of course, not believing it will mean that this earthly life is all we would receive. Our choice.
near death is not death
correct, these "experiences" are subconscious mind visions. They vary from person to person.
Near life is not life….apparently.
Eben AIII can't believe its you...Andrea from Harvard Med, part of Jay's group
Dr. A is thinking, don’t make this so complicated. 😅
I get the same experiences on a DMT trip.
Same with mushrooms for me. But I bet most listeners would say it’s not genuine, and not God that you’re meeting.
DMT is on my bucket list… but the idea terrifies me for the moment!
Same here with shrooms.
@@CJS1986 my last time I spent 2 hours thinking I was dead! … it got better.
Trip reports are not the same. Very little is the same
@@priestbogomil do you mean very little the same with other trip reports? Or very little similar with NDE’s?
Carefully read Dr Alexander’s Wikipedia page. Not always a trustworthy guy it would seem.
Yes and no.
I don’t know. People have their own experiences.
Have you guys read the Book "Visions of Glory" ?
Perhaps in retrospect this is bad timing for your show during the Chad Daybell trial ?
Refuse to read Visions of Glory. People apparently take it literally like Chad Daybell and Jodi Hilderbrand/Ruby Franke were also wrapped up in that book. And those people are pure evil. Don’t need that evil.
@@lizhoward9754 Good for you. I refused to read it as well !!
i was surprised at the shrugging off of all the bad experiences. That does not sound like a scientific mind.
Interesting how this "spiritual body" experienced during alleged NDEs is not physical, but somehow "floats" over the physical body in physical spacetime while locked into the same planetary/stellar/galactic gravitational well. Also interesting that whatever ocular apparatuses these "spiritual bodies" have can only see the visual spectrum in a directed field of vision, like they have irises and retinas too. Hmm. 🧐
Exactly! If some spiritual being is sensing the world around it, it ought to be detectable in the physical realm also - and as far as I know it is not. If you reliably pack a room with disembodied souls, the photons being absorbed by the souls to give them a view of physical space should cause a detectable dimming in the room.
Without a theory of what a soul is, where it resides, and how many un-embodied souls there are, there can be no testable hypotheses, and thus the idea of a soul is meaningless - especially when there are perfectly god naturalistic explanations that we can test.
I've had similar questions about an ocular seeing device and photon absorption. The key is setting aside the materialist mode of thinking, where matter is primary, and mind and perception are products of a brain. If mind is primary and the material world exists within mind (aka, the mind of God) visual perception doesn't depend on ocular devices and absorption of photons.
@@scottjensen7555 Right. So this immaterial disembodied mind that's no longer stuck with irises and retinas (and the visual-processing neural network hooked up to those via the optic nerve) is somehow deliberately and persistently choosing to limit its immaterial disembodied perception to a specific electromagnetic spectral range and field of vision that just happens to coincide with those perceived by humans in both conscious and unconscious (oneiric) experience. 🤔
@@scottjensen7555 I prefer to beleive a physical world exists. If we are figments, or code running in The Matrix, then our very perceptions and thoughts are at the mercy of the whims of others, and we truly are nothing.
Belief in such a universe - where us conscious beings have no individual existence - is unhelpful, as it holds no explanatory nor predictive power.
A belief in the material world - in which we are separate, conscious agents - has proved to have huge explanatory and predictive power.
@@AtheismActuallyMany experiencers report having 360 degree vision.
I think I have a pretty good idea who the Dr. Worships.
Dr Eben Aleksander Seve the sending.
John, please consider writing about the “life review” and what we can learn from them… that would be fascinating
It's been done by many others.
@@Cassim125 I enjoy his writing style from a Christian/Jesus perspective
In the paradigm of Christianity where we are saved by his perfect righteousness and obedience - and not by our own - a life review should be completely unnecessary. That’s just one reason I believe demons are producing these in unsaved people.
@@dfkuz that may be true.. you can only rely on Christian testimonies and everything else is highly suspect. The fact that many Christians do have them, it tells me that Jesus wants us to live a life of love and most pertain to that person. I realize that just “believing” he was the Son of God was important. But just as important was how we lived our lives.
@@kentknight7538I'm not sure I'd rely on "Christian testimonies" either because there are too many other factors that can play into something that's so subjective. There are some people, even Christians, that are pathological liars. Just being a Christian doesn't instantly cure all our behavioral or psychological faults. To tell you the truth, I don't consider anyone that believes they can lose their salvation to even be saved because some of their faith is obviously in their own ability to stay saved. I often ask those that report NDE's where Jesus welcomed them, etc., if they can lose their salvation and you'd be surprised how often I get a "yes."
There's only one thing God requires of us to be saved and that is that we completely trust in his Son, Jesus Christ, for our eternal life made possible by his death, burial and resurrection. Some that has believed that can literally kill someone and still be saved - it's that powerful and that radical! God expected his chosen people to show their faith by their works and their obedience, but when he let them go at the end of Acts, all of that was also let go. We are the lucky recipients of his new deal: Accept his gift of eternal life in Ephesians 2:8 & 9 understanding that it was made available by the cross work of his Son at Calvary. That's it; we can literally change our minds the next day and we'd still be saved!
The trouble is that the Bible is a huge Book that covers a variety of relationships that God has had with humans. But we can't take it all and apply it to ourselves; that's when we run into contradictions! I see people try it all the time though! Pagans like us were never even noticed by God (unless he was helping the Israelites kill us) until he had to let his chosen people go (Acts 28:28-31); then he opened the door to a free salvation for the taking, no strings attached, available to all that wish to receive it: Ephesians 2:8 & 9 KJV. This gospel paradigm will continue right to and through the second coming of Christ when he suddenly "appears" on the earth (Colossians 3:4 KJV) and receives his kingdom (which I believe will be the whole earth restored to Eden-like glory), Colossians 1:13 KJV; and where all those that have ever belonged to God by faith will be translated to live eternally as the "one new man" of Ephesians 2:15 KJV. Sin was no longer an issue for us ever since the cross because Christ paid the world's sin debt in full; the only question that remains is "Do you wish to live forever in the kingdom of God's dear Son, or not?"
4:57 “…Proving that memory is not even stored in the brain.” I knew consciousness was not completely stored in the brain, but thank you, I just learned something brand new. Wow!
5-29-24.
58:53 Jesus Christ is God, and talk about long suffering and loving kindness: He has told humans in probably millions of ways who He is, plus, He left us a whole book to know Him by. It’s called the, “Holy Bible.” I suggest the KJV.
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We are spiritual beings having a SHORT, physical experience, and bad spirits run ONLY by the name(s) of Jesus Christ.
A few immediate points I’d like to pick up on:
1. People experience the same thing (and overlapping themes and visions) while on psychedelic trips. I think it’s either a brain trick, of a real plane of existence that we can’t usually access in normal waking consciousness.
2. If only humans enter into this place after death, where/when did this start along human timeline? Are to the human cousins/ancestors also experience it? What about the Neanderthal/homo-sapien genetic hybrids? How ‘unhuman’ would a hybrid species have to be before they can’t access this realm?
3: Penguins are not present in this realm but butterflies are? What’s going on there?!
Many things makes no sense...
Humans became humans on the day the first 2 were created, the sixth day.
@@martinploughboy988 oh yeh, sorry I forgot that.
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It’s interesting that the books of Acts chapters 2 and 13 says King David did not ascend to heaven.
It doesn't matter if it wasn't a medical induced comma!! When the brain undergoes a decrease in oxygen, It may react in ways that culminate in a patient's near death experience. This doctor knows better. He's just trying to promote his book 📖 🤔?
Alexander wrote a great book; but I no longer trust him. He's become more and more polemical every time I've heard him over the years, as he's become more famous and an object of admiration / worship himself.
And the hubris of comparing his own works, putting them above "2,000 year old scriptures" is staggering.
Im bummed, truly. Because his first book was so important to me and thousands of others. It's sad that he's become someone very very different since then...at least that's all I can conclude based solely on his own words. Im not listening to anything anyone else says about him.
Let me revise. The answer to the title on the thumbnail is "no" - the answer to "are near death experiences real" is of course they are. By definition people who are near death but who don't die, have an experience of some sort.
1.618 PHI Golden mean ratio PROVES the existence of GOD and infinity. Is that REAL enough for you?
Once we prove consciousness is a new ontology, this will be 10:47 evidence! Pray for Bernardo Kastrop to convert! Russell Brand conversion.❤❤❤❤❤
46:45 Made a simple question that John couldn't answer (reencarnation).. He was more councerning about the religion, who is God, God's love, compassion, forgiveness, love this, love that, unconditional love (phrase repeated in all NDE's stories, check how many times they say in this video) bla bla... Seems like a comun preacher than a researcher telling what we all know for decades, hundred years... We need facts, new stuff, keeps teelling over and over same thing in every video. I use to follow him for more things about NDE's but seems more councerning to sell his books and more like a preacher speach than an investigator.
Yyes as someone researching ndes for some years myself john burke is a pseudo researcher who's hijacked the nnde to prove his faith. Nothing else. He misrepresents the research so much
Well...he's a preacher. With a church. Lol, so there's that.
Same exact lies from the Garden of Eden, “ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil;” and “ye shall not surely die” (you are eternal)! And humans are still falling for it. I have personal experience because the demons possessing me (as they do all humans born unless the Holy Spirit replaces them by the host trusting Jesus Christ) spoke to me telepathically and because I realized who they were and where they were leading me (into deception), they accidentally led me to Christ and made me one of their most tenacious enemy on earth! My testimony can be found through my profile picture.
Why is nobody talking about hell?
@ 9:30 This is where you lost me.
Eben met "AUM" ओम of Hinduism in his NDE. And that's what he calls God - Aum. But I think John is not showing up an open mind. He is just trying to stick to the some Christian dogmas. He is trying to find out who is God, not knowing that it isn't a Person.😊
Min 8:12 but it all resolves down into oneness... God force? Min 9:21 trust in the universe... min 9:29 I was brought up a Christian but I came to realize that that God force is universal and it's all about love kindness compassion mercy acceptance forgiveness ....
This does not line up with the gospel!! Where is the repentance? Where is Jesus ? Where is having a personal relationship with our creator and forgiveness of our sins through Jesus and through His shed blood? This NDE sounds to me very new age!! Beware pray for guidance and wisdom. Not all NDE are God given. Some accounts go against the written word of God which means they are demonically inspired with the purpose of pulling the person away from salvation. Salvation is the goal here.
If you are a christian and you believe that not all NDEs are from your god but from the devil, then aren't you saying that the devil has the power to resurrect the dead?
As a prior poster put it: believe in the God inside you and not some dogma.
Evelyn, I agree with you 100%!! We can recognize deception among all the goobelygook by this one thing: there is only one name given among heaven and earth, that salvation is given--JESUS!! The evil one is happy for you to know and believe everything but Jesus. So glad you are not deceived, unfortunately, many will be.
@@lovestarlightgiver2402 Evil and deceiving spirits are able to affect peoples experiences. These people are told in the good experiences that if they stay, they can not go back. i pray you were not being melodramatic to create an assumptive position. That rather, you honestly did not consider all the details presented.
Your demons have been with you watching you your whole life and they know you better than you know yourself. They know exactly what kind of paranormal experience you need to ensnare you into a false belief system! If the “Jesus” they show you is the one you then believe in and pray to, are you really a true Christian or just praying to a supernaturally-generated image (that probably looks exactly like Lucifer, just like the paintings we grew up thinking were realistic representations of the real Jesus…)! Is it because we are a generation of pixel images that makes so many of us check our brain at the door? Will we be the generation that falls for the “second coming” of an A.I. “Jesus”?
Spoiler alert...No
I’m wondering how he can really sit there and say that there’s no evil or good. How do you explain the fact that demons are seen by people? By saying that the NDEs that include hell or a hellish experience are just an attempt to show the person what it’s like to be on the receiving end of their bad choices is to discount experiences Howard storms. Eben wants so bad for universal to be true. He minimizes Jesus and has redefined who Jesus is.
Alexander's Wikipedia page should tell you all you need to know about this modern day snake oil salesman.
I came here looking for the comments regarding the allegations against him. If I’m not mistaken, he also was in a medically induced coma, but here he says it’s important to note that it wasn’t. Everything I’ve read says this is not true, he says the doctors are pretending. As a doctor who seems to have committed malpractice allegedly, that’s an interesting assertion. Not the best opposing view for this debate.
The Universe did not create God. Satan masquerades as an Angel of Light. Satan offers a counterfeit to those rejecting Jesus Christ that SEEMS just as good, or better, than what our Heavenly Father offers us. This man's NDE experience, and his passionate story will deceive many. It's very sad. John 14:6 Saints, stay the course!
do you believe in reincarnation ?
Proof of hear say. He's given his bullsh't little names. Bless him! Only in America.
The internet is full of unsubstantiated anecdotal stories by highly religious individuals claiming all sorts of fantastic stories about NDEs.
In brain function local brain regions go offline one after another during brain trauma and shut down. The brain, whose substrate is whichever neurons remain intact, then does what we know the brain always does, it tells a story shaped by a person’s experience, memory and cultural expectations. [as in dreams] There is no mystery here.
At the start of the video their argument was “There’s like 30 reasons why NDEs might not be real, but since the skeptics can’t pick one..” 😂 makes me so frustrated. I’m game for listening to good arguments but that’s a piss poor way to refute skeptics. Perhaps some of those 30 are intertwined? Perhaps it’s more complicated than having one explanation for why ALL NDEs are fabricated? Maybe different ones are fabricated under different circumstances?
How can you explain how you can see and hear what's happening ? Also all real near death experiences change the individuals life and the memories never fade.
This whole comment is a statement of faith. Butterflies are caterpillars first. Their brains liquify during metamorphosis, but they carry on migration patterns. There have been experiments with flat worms that are taught where to get a food source, then their heads are cut off and they have to grow the brain back. They remember where the food source is. Consciousness isn't brain based, as per experimental evidence so why wouldn't people experience these things?
@@angelarobertson9332 People experience seeing and hearing things when they're hallucinating or having a vivid dream, things that aren't actually happening in reality outside your own mind. Your brain becomes highly susceptible to hallucinations when it's deprived of oxygen, whether by blunt trauma, a heart attack, asphyxia, shock, etc.
If someone claims to have experienced the presence of Allah and becomes a Muslim and their lives change dramatically, do you think that they actually experienced the presence of Allah?
It you took time out to research the subject you will know that real ndes are nothing like hallucinations or dreams and you haven't explained how consciousness can preceive outside the body ...are doctors and nurses lying that patients could tell them events that happened in the room and outside the room when the patient was clinically dead...A real skeptic would look at all aspects...
All I can do is roll my eyes. Total BS. A loving God??? Really?? Where is He? Certainly not on earth. This is about selling books not ultimate truth.
Duh....there are no Female angels. and Yahweh is not a Force,,,,he creates Force dude.....
You vill see. 😂
Proof after life very funny just making money in UA-cam and writing selling books 📚money maker. Greed.
John Burke with all due respect is trying to Christianize what’s going on here without considering the atrocious Hebrew God of the Old Testament and sometimes New Testament, which atrocities can hardly be considered that of “LOVE”. This is a problem. You have to go through primarily Jewish and early Christian MYSTICISM or Mandaean Sabean literature to find the Love and Light passages. Certainly NOT the 66 books of the King James. Gospel of Thomas is a good example as are many others. The horrific atrocities attributed to the Yahweh God etc… are not in alignment with what NDE love light experiencers report. The other point is what about reincarnation? This is explained away as well and even denied by the teachers in many thought schools. Reincarnation is a punishment to a material reality but if Jesus died for our sins, why are the reports of reincarnation so many? Reincarnation for punishment if Jesus sets us free? Thank you 🙏
Atheist trope dummy❤
Once you study philosophy you will learn that this is empirical evidence❤
Is this a joke??