Thanks for your once again level-headed take on these leaks. I don't really have an opinion on the Twin storyline, personally. Will wait to see the actual show before passing judgement. But I agree with your speculation of what happens to the world and specifically Korra. Everyone else seems to be leaping at the opportunity to say how horrible she was (as usual), but what you say in this video just makes a lot more sense. I don't see Bryke wishing to undermine all the good Korra accomplished in her own series, so the idea of the spirits actually living in the havens alongside humanity (and possibly helping them survive this new harsh world?) is fitting and helps to solidify her legacy.
I got the feeling this cataclysm thing is their excuse to not make a cyberpunk/futuristic world, like "yeah, all technology got destroyed, we're going back to the old days", since people didn't like how Korra's era was based on the 1900.
Additional Info: The word Geet (G sound not J) means “Song” in most South Asian languages like Punjabi or Hindi. Source: me. Makes sense in context of Pavi being a musician. Also “avatar-esqe” probably is spiritual abilities like Pathik’s search ability or as simple as having their own animal guide.
I bet the world was destroyed by spirit vine bombs. Varrick literally created a weapon of mass destruction, which Kuvira then attempted to use against the world. When Korra saved Kuvira from her giant spirit gun, it exploded, creating a new spirit portal and created a giant spirit vine crater surrounding it. Decades later, the nations begin an arms race, war breaks out, and hundreds of these bombs are unleashed on the world. They rip hundreds of rifts into the spirit world, covering many parts of the world with vines and turning the atmosphere into an eternal harmonic convergence/ever storm state.
Everything sounds and looks pretty cool to me so far. I've never bought into the Twin Avatar theory since something super crazy would have to happen during gestation or birth for Raava to somehow be in both and then, yeah, like you mentioned, it creates really complicated issues for when the next Avatar is reborn if only one twin dies, etc. Avatar-like powers could really be anything. Spiritbending kind of looks like an Avatar-like power; psychic bloodbending; heck, even lavabending could seem like an Avatar power depending on what era you're in and the information available to you. So perhaps the sister has invented or manifested a new earthbending technique or spirit technique. All that said, audition sides almost never make it into the final product exactly as they are. You want to give the actor some variety in the scenes to show their range, but it's highly unlikely that these exact scenes will be in the final show. I would treat them in the same vein as the unaired pilot. The unfortunate thing about leaks is the way people overreact, declaring final judgements on a show that they haven't even seen yet. I've seen people saying it's "badly written." You. Have. Not. Seen. It. Yet. You have seen some visuals, some sides, and have had the context/setting described to you by someone who had it described to them by a Paramount employee. We have no concept of how the storytelling will actually be and how they will present everything. With all the leaks put together, we have *maybe* five minutes worth of story, not even close to a full episode let alone series. People need to take a breath.
I have heard one missing bit on how the avatar state might work and that is that it can only be activated when near each other and they both are in it and it was exampled by 2 bodies physically one spirit spiritually
Why wouldn't the dark avatar reincarnation cycle make sense? Ravva is permanently attached to a human spirit, so she has no choice but to reincarnate with that soul when it naturally comes back. Similarly, Raava assumed he would take thousands of years to come back, but he is connected to a human soul now and would equally have no choice when the soul he is attached to comes back. I assume he wouldn't be at full power. Ravva spent the entirety of Wan's life so weak that she was living in a tea kettle. So it isn't like they have to be powerful at all times. I think they made terrible decisions with Raava and Vaatu; making one pure evil and the other good was just stupid. It literally goes in the face of what they are designed after. But I really don't see them having something close to a second "Avatar" and not going with the one that already exists. Also, wouldn't it seem strange not to mention Vaatu in this series? I hate what they did to Yin and Yang as much as the next person. But the simple fact is that things after season two of the Legend of Korra, good and bad, were because of Vaatu. He contacted the Red Lotus and convinced Unaloq to free him by opening the spirit portals. Thus, he is the reason why spirits were allowed back into the human world and the only reason airbenders started to reawaken. I agree that both having more bending wouldn't make sense, but neither one has shown multiple bending types yet. This means if one is Vaatu, that one would have spirit energy enhancing them without the usual outlets and thus have "Avatar-like" powers. So, probably seeing spirits and other similar non-elemental abilities. Also, to be clear, if this is Raava and Vaatu, I don't think they would be able to talk. Raava only ever talked to Korra once, and past that, she never really influenced her host. If they did reveal Vaatu as one of the spirits, I doubt he would talk. It would just be the explanation of why one has avatar powers, and one has "avatar-like" powers.
Yeah, i hope Vaatu makes a return and redeems himself, like, maybe since Korra purified him at the end of season 2 he stops being evil, while still being the spirit of Chaos and Darkness? It would fix the idea that Raava is good and Vaatu is evil. Vaatu was just corrupted.
In a Previous leak it was said that Avatar Generstion was 100 years after the events of Korra and since Korra is set in a more 1920s like world, this would mean 2020s for the next avatar. My theory is that Korra ends up living over 100 years, by this time republic city and the rest of the world has massively evolved in technology this is when the cataclysm happens and and Older Korra has to stop it. This will be similar to how we got flashbacks to a 40 year old Aang in season 1 of Legend of Korra.
Honestly I was hoping for them to go back in time, not forward. Season 1 of Korra is the only one that really nailed the 20s feel. My worries stem from, Avatar just buffing powers into ridiculousness. Kyoshi made an island ok, she didn't remake the entirety of Avatar's planet landmass.
I keep forgetting that the new Avatars are supposed to be nine. That seems a bit young. Aang was 12 and acted like a kid sometimes, but it made sense that he started maturing and taking things seriously at a young age. But nine seems too young for them to stay that age for most of the series. Meelo was 9 in the last season of Korra. There has to be a time skip at some point early on.
There is that group of fans for whom nothing besides the original Avatar show will be good enough. They don't like LOK, they don't like the novels, and it's pointless to try to appeal to them. It's best to let them be.
And people love to make assumptions. I've seen people already saying stuff like "hard pass, the creators are coward for technologically resetting this world", even though all we know is so vague that it is a massive reach to just assume that the technological progress of LOK will be completely lost.
Another thought: How difficult is to travel between the seven havens? Maybe there is a portal in each one of them? Maybe the cataclysm Korra had to stop created four new spirit portals around the world. It would make sense.. If one rogue spirit canon had enough energy to tore open new portal, maybe if, let's say, Korra had to stop an impacting asteroid or something like that, it would be enough energy to open multiple portals.. Then havens developed around these portals.. Maybe because people tried to escape the wasteland into the spirit world to seek refuge there. But spirits didn't let them to spread around the spirit world, so the portals are now dangerous to come through and can be used only for quick journeys between the seven havens. .. Lots o possibilities!! My mind is going wild, LOL : ))
I'm glad someone else made the connection between the spirit cannon/portals and the cataclysm that ruins everything. I really think this is the result of a war using the spirit weapons that ripped apart the stability between the worlds, and the seven havens are the result of the war.
Just a random thought I had just now: Maybe they being twins makes Raava randomly manifest within one or the other. Never both of them at the same time. It opens some interesting dynamics and story beats.. Like loosing Avatar powers in the middle of the fight as Raava randomly jumps over to the other twin. Maybe the reason the connection is unstable like this is that crazy thing Korra had to do to save the world.. I don't know.. Just thinking the possibilities : )
I have another theory. Raava once said if she killed Vaatu or vice-versa that either spirit will grow back within eachother until the next Harmonic Convergence. During Harmonic Convergence after Korra killed Unalaq and Vaatu, and she fuses back with Raava, it's safe to assume that Korra has both Raava and Vaatu inside of her. Which evidently makes the avatar more powerful than before. After Korra death maybe the avatar spirit was so powerful couldn't choose one person to be the avatar.
I hope this dont do this. Not becase it doesnt sound cool, but because twins arent born at the same time. If the Avatar is a reincarnation then the twin that was born when Korra died should be the Avatar.
I initially had some mixed reactions to the info. But i want to wait to see the context of course. As for "avatar-like abilities" it makes me think of Yun bending paint or Iroh developing lightning re-direction by watching water benders. That maybe with the white lotus having the twin study other elements she develops earth techniques that mimic them. One thing i'm confused by is all of this art and info saying the avatars are nine. But a soryboard i saw (where the cat basically sucks on her head/hood lol) she looked significantly older. So is there a timejump early on or i am just bad at judging ages?
I think she looks very young in the coloured image, storyboards and the animatic. The animatic where the cat sucks on her head, doesn't give you a great view of her, until right towards the end, but I do think she defintiely comes across young. Maybe 9 won't be the finalised age, but they seem to be going younger than Aang for sure.
"Avatar-like powers" don't have to be elemental at all: previous lives memories, Aang (and Jinora)-like spirit tracking and projections, ability to change and mold spirit world like Korra did, even just Avatar Spirit technically doesn't have to involve elements -- just stuff like glowing eyes and channeling previous lives bringing out their voice, wisdom and apparitions
@@billyiswaiting Would love a trailer. It takes really long to make an animated series so i wonder when we can expect one. I suspect the show might come out early 2026 so maybe summer idk.
Also I am curious for the reasoning why did the White Lotus only trained one of the twins. Even if they though they knew which one of them is the Avatar, it would make total sense to keep the other one around.. Even just for body-double purpose.. Or just in case they are wrong about the identity of the Avatar.. I would want to keep the second most likely person to be an Avatar at close hands.. C'mon, White Lotus can't be that reckless : )
@@therion108 They must have done some of the usual tests and went with one of them thinking she was the real deal. But dumping the other twin doesn't make much sense, even if she isn't the Avatar. That's just heartless. That body double remark made me envision one of them getting absolutely obliterated and White Lotus just shrugs and says "Well, at least we have another one." Damn. My brain is cursed.
My longshot theory is that Nikki the non-Avatar twin is actually a reincarnation of yun and Father glowworm. It's been a long standing headcanon of mine that reincarnation was just kind of the standard in universe and the avatars case was only special because raava made it easy to connect to those past lives. Im not sure if yun and father glowworm would've bonded like that because there wasnt a spirit portal or harmonic convergence going on at that moment, so im not sold on it but i gotta put it out there in case im right
I think the show sounds interesting especially after knowing a lot of the lore for the series. A lot of these plot points have parallels in the books so it feels like the books were priming us for this. I also feel like fans need to relax. Mike and Bryan made it clear in the past they do not like rehashing old stuff. We still have the past lore and the past shows as well as books, comics, and potentially games all taking place with the past with the series staples in place. I think It's cool and exciting to see them experiment and try new things with the world. We also have no idea how it will be written or what the show will actually be like. This could be a fresh start and a chance to take the series in a direction we have never seen before.
Could the sister Nicki be the reincarnation of Yun and still bonded to Father Glowworm somehow? Her bending could be very powerful and varied and she might be able to see her past lives back to Yun which seems like an avatar power. Plus she would also be able to tunnel to the spirit world. With the mention of the Glowing Eyeball, I think this idea might be something!
Look I know like Korra many will feel off about it and there will be things people don’t like, but so long as they try and give us a good story and characters we should be eating good despite our grievances
That would be crazy if the reason for the leaks is that this all was just one of the ideas and now it's scrapped and final show will be completely different. Though I don't think it would get to story-board, animatics, etc. stage if this was just one of the ideas.
Its legit, Avatar studious is trying to silence people who are spreading the leaks. Such as avatarist, his video got copyright striked and removed. I doubt they scrap the idea given how far along in the process they are.
@gamingwitharlen2267 No. Only the storyboard is legit. The plot details are just rumors that Avatarist is framing as legit and that's why his video was removed. Also, they're not far along in the process. They're mostly working on the Aang movie now. The series hasn't even been given a release date. It's still in pre-production.
Maybe whatever is responsible for what happens and Korra needs to resolve might be introduced in the next Aang movie, or any of the other projects before the series.
What if the two girls were attacked by rebels/Equalists and the non avatar twin displayed some spiritual power that made them believe she's the avatar, while pavi was less confrontational and lost her leg
1.) Speedprime a user said THIS here: "Not quite. Avatar Studios is still a subsidiary of Nickelodeon, so Nick will definitely still have some sway. We can only hope they learned their lesson with Korra and will be a little more lenient." Is it true hope not ? 2.) something else, is Avatar Studios now dependent on Paramount and Nickelodeon or independent ? 3.) someone else wrote this: "Paramount owns the rights to the show via Nickelodeon… I don’t think Avatar Studios have a choice if they want to create shows with the IP" What do you think i tought that avatar studios is to 100% free and has the 100% freedom now or is it wrong ????
Overall we don't know the full details of exactly how much freedom Mike and Bryan have to do whatever they want with Avatar Studios. Clearly Paramount really believe in the franchise giving them a full studio to make multiple projects and now stuff like a AAA game is finally happening. My guess is that part of the deal is probably stuff like "You can make these 6 projects and you can do what ever you want with 3 of them, but 2 of them have to be ATLA/Aang focused and 1 has to be for this demographic" Because my understanding of Mike and Bryan is that the 2026 Aang movie is probably not their personal pick for the initial go to project, they seem like they always want to do new stuff. So my guess is that they probably realise combined with what Paramount want, that they need to hit those nostaligia points as well as do fully new stuff. So I think they have a lot of freedom, but it likely isn't complete absolute freedom to just have every project be everything they want. Paramount/Nick definitely have a say, but I think it is a decent bit different to how things were during ATLA and Korra. In terms of your reference to how Nick treated Korra, that I don't think will happen here, Paramount are all in on Avatar so they are not going to treat their big new franchise that badly.
@@AirspeedPrime1.) THEY have to MAKE NEW projects because Paramount says so. What do you think Mike and Byran want to do if they had 100% freedom? Would Mike and Byran really concentrate on PAST projects or would they still be 50/50 on the new and is it bad for them? 2.) But CAN Avatar Studios be 100% independent of Paramount so that they have 100% freedom or is that a bad idea? 3.) But why is Avatar Studios NOT allowed to have 100% complete freedom in Paramount? What kind of people and companies are these but Avatar Studios can be 100% reassured that they are with Paramount, right, and no longer with Nickelodeon or please reassure me Airspeedprime that Avatar Studios is finally safe? 4.) Can Avatar Studios be as successful as Marvel Studios? 5.) Does Disney also treat Marvel Studios badly? If so, do you think that at some point in 10 years Paramount will treat Avatar Studios badly like with marvel studios/mcu? And I thought that Nick no longer has ANY say and is no longer there because it comes from Paramount?
@14:58 Geet doesnt look like a "big fluffy cat" lol idk why people keep saying this. He straight up looks like Momo, scaled up in size and with a cat's face
My point is more that in comparison to some of the earlier concept stuff, the I assume mroe finalised Animatic design is IMO somewhat noticeably different. Leaning to being rounder and a bit fluffier than the more lean looking design elsewhere. Sure still cat monkeys, but at least to me the animatic feels more cat than monkey overall, while the other stuff feels more monkey. Interpretations.
Been complaining about the lack of news for ages, that went from 0 to 100 real fast, didn't it. About the series, I think i can grow warm with Pavi and Geet, i just hope the twin avatar thing (At least not both having Raava) isn't coming to light but i might need to see an episode or two to make up my mind. Pavi looks like she is of Indian decent, an ethnic which we haven't see so far in the world of Avatar and her name also suggests that. India is part of the asian continent and since everything is asia based in Avatar, it wouldn't be too far off to see, although still a bit weird that we have never seen more characters like her? Or maybe we have and i've forgotten i have the memory of a goldfish. i only see one way how the twin avatar thing would canonically work for me, by having the other girl get the reincarnated Vaatu, this way she would have Avatar like powers but not access to all 4 elements. But otherwise, there is no way Raava can split between two people when she only reincarnates in one human. Unless they write that in, which would be stupid to constantly change how things in that world work. Vaatu is probably not coming back for another 10 000 years so i don't know how that theory would work unless the cataclysmic event that happens near Korra's end causes massive spiritual energy to release and speeds up the process immensely. The rivalry between the twins reminds me of Legend of Genji where they also had a "fake" Avatar that was announced by the White Lotus while the real Avatar was forgotten and lived in a sandbender slum (Whats up with Earth Kingdom messing this up so much) and i actually like that they went with that idea. The fact that Nikki is powerful makes me think that she actually has Vaatu inside of her and that is why she was falsely announced as the Avatar, maybe there is no way to differentiate between the real and Dark Avatar until someone bends another element or the eyes glow purple. Otherwise, how can someone have "Avatar like powers"? I don't want to jump to hate before i have even seen one trailer but i am a little bit worried about the age though. It worked with Aang but Pavi and Nikki are three years younger than that. The apocalyptic events might force them to mature faster than normal kids so there's that.
Jargala and Guru Pathik would be two characters who I believe are inspired by South Asia. King Bumi also, it is definitely there as the Earth Kingdom is so massive diverse. I am no expert on what real world stuff everything is based on, so others probably have more details on this topic.
@@AirspeedPrime I knew i forgot someone and i even had a rewatch couple months ago. All the Gurus and Bumi look indie but still, the Earth Kingdom is mostly based on chinese dynasties so they are rare in that sense. But i don't know much about that aswell so i don't want to make any false assumptions.
Any chance that the cataclysmic event is Sozin’s Comet returning but actually colliding with the world ? It seemed like it was in close proximity to the world during ATLA - who’s to say that its trajectory might not change slightly ? If my math is correct then Korra should be around 50 on its return.
i hate this fandom. they hate anything that’s not atla 2.0. haven’t even gotten an official trailer and people are saying it’s the death of the franchise? mind you the movie is what we are getting first so if anything make your opinions after that comes out. anyway, thank you for always presenting the information in an unbiased way without all the preconceptions of what you think the series SHOULD be.
ppl can have opinions. i don't want ATLA 2.0, but i don't wanna see a twin Avatar, not the abolishment of the Nations, either. but i respect your opinion. you should respect mine, as well as those of others. basic manners.
@@sircuphead-ju7wl A cyber punk world < destroyed world, plus don't hate on the twin avatar stuff when you have literally 0 information on how it works.
@@gamingwitharlen2267 that's your opinion. i think the CONCEPT of a twin Avatar is dumb. but i won't try to boycott the actual cartoon till it releases
I think that the power Aang might face in the movie could be some form of precursor to the disaster that Korra has to face. That way the movie has at least some connection to the show.
Its unfortunate that the new avatar is already getting some hate before we even get a damn trailer of this new series lmao. Maybe it's just a twitter thing you know people on their like to exaggerate their issues on things and they have only watched ATLA when it was on netflix. Maybe the actual avatar community is more open, but i've just seen nothing but negativity which is a shame
That's just the way Twitter is. It's always mostly negative toward anything Avatar if it's not related to Aang, or any Avatar that was shown in ATLA to be honest. I love all of Avatar, and I got to say this looks AMAZING. If were up to some fans we would never move on from ATLA. Plus some of the Avatar fandom really hates any sorts of change.
The same thing happend with Korra and It never really stopped until reseantly when the fandom foind a new apreciación but morras haters are still outdare, I have a feeling that fans Will be More perseptive with this one, the new avatar linda looks like Toph and I think it's on purpuse, she Is a fan fav
So far I like the prospects of this show quite a lot! Little bit afraid of the twins shenanigans, but even that can turn out to be an amazing story arc. Finally, we have something more specific to look forward to. Hyped !!
I absolutely love the concept for Pavi so far. The possible script that I read definitely feels very much like Avatar, and I also wanted to always explore wherever in the Avatar world is based on India and where Pathik & Jargala came from. Hating her for her ethnicity, disability or just being a new Avatar is already happening and I hate it so much. I actually have a theory now that Elora may be visited by Aang in the movie considering the working title was 'Hidden Kingdom'. Could Elora be a semi-secret Earth Kingdom civilization underground? I just came up with this after reading that IRL, Ellora is the name of a sacred carved rock temple complex in India that have been called 'cave-like' although they are open. Still very, very uncertain on the status of the world. If you're more of an ATLA purist that much change might be alarming, if you're a Korra fan it's sad she didn't have a good legacy after all she went through - I mean she potentially saw more deaths than the entire Hundred Year War if the most extreme scenario is correct. It seems depressing that we may be getting a situation pretty close to what Vaatu wanted to do to the world, save for the seven sanctuaries. I'm also still unsure about using so many ideas from the previous 4 Avatars as well as popular fan concepts. I know I'll probably eventually like anything Avatar but I want to just get it out there. At least we can mentally prepare for a worst-case status of the world before we know more details.
Also I remember there was a rumor that Priyanka Chopra was going to voice an Avatar. If not an adult Pavi could this be a past Avatar from Elora that Aang talks to in the new movie? Or maybe a different character for the show like Pavi & Nikki's mother
I always thought for years this post apocalypse thing would be the best the big robot in book 4 was dumb to me and made me think the avatar world was having to mutch technology if they had a next avatar the world would no longer be ancient so the only way to make technology go back is to have a apocalypse
I wonder how they'll the differentiate the twin's upbringing by the White Lotus from Korra's upbringing by the White Lotus. With Korra we already get a lot of the "coddled and isolated from the wider world" type beats, so what will they change to show a different take? Maybe the twin isn't all that rebellious?
the purple hair design looks so terrible I can’t believe it’s the final version. I was already apprehensive about her age but if Bryke can’t even do proper art direction anymore then this show really will kill the franchise. The air nomad’s design is even worse, so bland. If you put Pavi in a lineup with previous Avatars she sticks out like a sore thumb.
Jae isn’t an air nomad. He seems to be descended from the air benders who didn’t join Tenzin in LOK Book 3, which is why he doesn’t dress like one. An earlier design of him in the concept art with the wasteland shows him with air nomad tattoos, but it was dropped in favor of the finalized outfit with air nomad colors as he isn’t a traditional air bender.
The fandom's obsession with there being a worst Avatar is an absolute plague on the fandom. Always lacking in nuance, and the fact that people are already adding this into the discussion when we have basically no context is crazy.
The avatar can't force humanity to make the right choices. Especially post-indutrial humans with technology. Cities are often driven to grow and tend to make choices only based on their own interests. Now arm those cities with the spirit weapons Varrick invented right as society rapidly grows and changes in the modern era. Whatever Korra did, she needed to do it to prevent humans from completely wiping themselves out.
I really believe the reason why this is always the popular discussion like on Twitter is cuz a lot of fans are just incapable to discuss these shows beyond the surface level. It may sound pretentious but that’s what it feels like to me at this point
I don't know how to feel about a couple of things. First the twins treatment: of course i don't believe in the twin avatar theory cause that's a huge stretch, even if we leave lore and world building behind and talk more pragmatically, we only have two mass media products (comics are not as huge as shiws) they have a lot of time to explore more before relying on such as rule breaking idea. Leaving that aside, the treatment reserved to the twins sounds a bit like a recycle of Kyoshi-Yun dynamic. I hope they elaborate something different, like the non avatar twin being completely neglected from the beginning, and build up resentment. Or just her feeling so much inferior, and explore their relationship where, maybe, the avatar try to help her building more and more confidence. We never seen a real breaking and serious problem in avatar close blood family. Secondly, the setting: that's just my personal preference. I really like the idea of a post apoc world, a cyberpunk setting as it was rumored before would have been a too big and too early step in world building. But personally I prefer nore when post apoc are not toxic and deserted wasteland, but more vivid spaces made of vines and nature taking back human spaces and creating new hybrid structures. But aside from that, cool concept. and if someone say it's just a re use of Wan era...in that time people where recluded on cities due to prejudice towards spirits, now it's a more concrete issue My last consideration is that avatar fandom is so baitable. The majority of people, who aren't 100% deeply involved in it, are fully convinced fan theories are canon. Bone Bending, Twin Avatars, Evil Avatar, Missing arm Avatar, previous reincarnation lover looking alike Avatar, switching gender every reincarnation, Genji. I mean, just apply some critical thinking and a little amount of research and you can easily debunk 80% of those. Oh yes...a good route they can follow to justify the misrecognition of who's the avatar is that the non avatar twin can be a master in all sub bending form. If something like lavabending knowledge went almost forgotten that can easily looks like fire bending, or sand as air. Fantastic video man ❤
So did I, lol, but even I can recognize a show just completely transforming itself for no reason. The fandom made it clear what it wanted, yet we get retcons, and a pigeonholling of Korra into what everyone who hated LoK said she is.
I believe that Yue is the answer to the Avatar sisters' dynamics. As a baby, Yue received part of the "soul", "spirit", "aura", "chi field" of the Moon Spirit (Tui) and becomes a "Horcrux". Perhaps Tui had prior knowledge of his death and needed that life ballast? During this energy exchange, Yue's hair changes color. Moving on to Pavi and Nikki, it would be possible for Nikki to have been born lifeless and Raava-Pavi transferred part of the "Spirit" which became the Avatar's "Horcrux". And a possible change would be to have two bendings.
I don't mind Pavi or her design (even though I get some of the pokemon complaints), I just don't like the core premise of this show. I would say we didn't get Aang's death as a plot point but I guess we're getting Korra's death as a plot point here.
If you dont mind in a little bit i would love to give you my full thoughts on everything and see what you think of what i say. Is that ok? I love the sound of this new show and we must stick together.
I dunno ... Without the Four Nations is this really the world of Avatar anymore, or just another post- apocalyptic world? And how would the world reorganize in such a radical way -- are the Water Tribes really not living at the Poles anymore? I just worry that they risk losing the integrity and richness of the original vision.
This alleged new series just sounds horrible! Korra dying like that, all that happened basically undone by an apocalypse. Just awful! These damn leaks better be fake! Let Korra and Asami have their happy ending and die in bed.
Looks like the Studio Mir western anime style, that is basically the Avatar style. Looks great to me, while also acknowledging that we don't have much in that finalised form.
@@AirspeedPrime Do you think studio mir is coming back for the show? They arent working on the movie but im not sure if flying bark productions will be working on the shows too or just the movies.
@@JamStan1978 No idea, it looks VERY studio mir, but I do think their style is basically the Avatar style and other people can do it. My guess is that with so many projects planned they will need another animation studio to be involved and they have the history with the franchise. We will have to wait and see if they are involved.
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Thanks for your once again level-headed take on these leaks. I don't really have an opinion on the Twin storyline, personally. Will wait to see the actual show before passing judgement. But I agree with your speculation of what happens to the world and specifically Korra. Everyone else seems to be leaping at the opportunity to say how horrible she was (as usual), but what you say in this video just makes a lot more sense. I don't see Bryke wishing to undermine all the good Korra accomplished in her own series, so the idea of the spirits actually living in the havens alongside humanity (and possibly helping them survive this new harsh world?) is fitting and helps to solidify her legacy.
A hundred percent this.
I got the feeling this cataclysm thing is their excuse to not make a cyberpunk/futuristic world, like "yeah, all technology got destroyed, we're going back to the old days", since people didn't like how Korra's era was based on the 1900.
I don't think we'll see all technology get lost like that.
If so, then i'll take it. I wouldn't like an Avatar show in a Cyberpunk world.
Additional Info: The word Geet (G sound not J) means “Song” in most South Asian languages like Punjabi or Hindi. Source: me. Makes sense in context of Pavi being a musician.
Also “avatar-esqe” probably is spiritual abilities like Pathik’s search ability or as simple as having their own animal guide.
I bet the world was destroyed by spirit vine bombs.
Varrick literally created a weapon of mass destruction, which Kuvira then attempted to use against the world. When Korra saved Kuvira from her giant spirit gun, it exploded, creating a new spirit portal and created a giant spirit vine crater surrounding it.
Decades later, the nations begin an arms race, war breaks out, and hundreds of these bombs are unleashed on the world. They rip hundreds of rifts into the spirit world, covering many parts of the world with vines and turning the atmosphere into an eternal harmonic convergence/ever storm state.
Maybe Pavi’s sister can bend two elements while pavi can bend all four
Everything sounds and looks pretty cool to me so far. I've never bought into the Twin Avatar theory since something super crazy would have to happen during gestation or birth for Raava to somehow be in both and then, yeah, like you mentioned, it creates really complicated issues for when the next Avatar is reborn if only one twin dies, etc. Avatar-like powers could really be anything. Spiritbending kind of looks like an Avatar-like power; psychic bloodbending; heck, even lavabending could seem like an Avatar power depending on what era you're in and the information available to you. So perhaps the sister has invented or manifested a new earthbending technique or spirit technique. All that said, audition sides almost never make it into the final product exactly as they are. You want to give the actor some variety in the scenes to show their range, but it's highly unlikely that these exact scenes will be in the final show. I would treat them in the same vein as the unaired pilot.
The unfortunate thing about leaks is the way people overreact, declaring final judgements on a show that they haven't even seen yet. I've seen people saying it's "badly written." You. Have. Not. Seen. It. Yet. You have seen some visuals, some sides, and have had the context/setting described to you by someone who had it described to them by a Paramount employee. We have no concept of how the storytelling will actually be and how they will present everything. With all the leaks put together, we have *maybe* five minutes worth of story, not even close to a full episode let alone series. People need to take a breath.
At first I thought it was going to bad but now I starting to think this show isn’t completely hopeless we just need more info
We know so little. And, ultimately, the only way to know if the show is good or bad is to actually watch it when it releases.
I was jumping on the negative train too initially but then realised how stupid that is.
@@-Tekuo-When will people learn to not be so hysterical?
I have heard one missing bit on how the avatar state might work and that is that it can only be activated when near each other and they both are in it and it was exampled by 2 bodies physically one spirit spiritually
Why wouldn't the dark avatar reincarnation cycle make sense? Ravva is permanently attached to a human spirit, so she has no choice but to reincarnate with that soul when it naturally comes back. Similarly, Raava assumed he would take thousands of years to come back, but he is connected to a human soul now and would equally have no choice when the soul he is attached to comes back. I assume he wouldn't be at full power. Ravva spent the entirety of Wan's life so weak that she was living in a tea kettle. So it isn't like they have to be powerful at all times.
I think they made terrible decisions with Raava and Vaatu; making one pure evil and the other good was just stupid. It literally goes in the face of what they are designed after. But I really don't see them having something close to a second "Avatar" and not going with the one that already exists. Also, wouldn't it seem strange not to mention Vaatu in this series? I hate what they did to Yin and Yang as much as the next person. But the simple fact is that things after season two of the Legend of Korra, good and bad, were because of Vaatu. He contacted the Red Lotus and convinced Unaloq to free him by opening the spirit portals. Thus, he is the reason why spirits were allowed back into the human world and the only reason airbenders started to reawaken. I agree that both having more bending wouldn't make sense, but neither one has shown multiple bending types yet. This means if one is Vaatu, that one would have spirit energy enhancing them without the usual outlets and thus have "Avatar-like" powers. So, probably seeing spirits and other similar non-elemental abilities.
Also, to be clear, if this is Raava and Vaatu, I don't think they would be able to talk. Raava only ever talked to Korra once, and past that, she never really influenced her host. If they did reveal Vaatu as one of the spirits, I doubt he would talk. It would just be the explanation of why one has avatar powers, and one has "avatar-like" powers.
Yeah, i hope Vaatu makes a return and redeems himself, like, maybe since Korra purified him at the end of season 2 he stops being evil, while still being the spirit of Chaos and Darkness?
It would fix the idea that Raava is good and Vaatu is evil. Vaatu was just corrupted.
In a Previous leak it was said that Avatar Generstion was 100 years after the events of Korra and since Korra is set in a more 1920s like world, this would mean 2020s for the next avatar.
My theory is that Korra ends up living over 100 years, by this time republic city and the rest of the world has massively evolved in technology this is when the cataclysm happens and and Older Korra has to stop it. This will be similar to how we got flashbacks to a 40 year old Aang in season 1 of Legend of Korra.
There's no obligation for technology to be like our modern times.
@ Hopefully it will be better, I was really thinking of a Cyberpunk as it was rumored.
@@fazbrogaming7776 Nah. Solarpunk would make more sense.
Honestly I was hoping for them to go back in time, not forward. Season 1 of Korra is the only one that really nailed the 20s feel. My worries stem from, Avatar just buffing powers into ridiculousness. Kyoshi made an island ok, she didn't remake the entirety of Avatar's planet landmass.
I’m happy to be getting a new series after a decade
Except the twin mess, everything sounds cool.
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I hope we see a lot of backflashes of a more adult Korra, she is my favorite avatar.
Maybe the twins are human-spirit hybrids/one of their parents was a spirit and that's why both of them were born as avatars.
I keep forgetting that the new Avatars are supposed to be nine. That seems a bit young. Aang was 12 and acted like a kid sometimes, but it made sense that he started maturing and taking things seriously at a young age. But nine seems too young for them to stay that age for most of the series. Meelo was 9 in the last season of Korra. There has to be a time skip at some point early on.
There is that group of fans for whom nothing besides the original Avatar show will be good enough. They don't like LOK, they don't like the novels, and it's pointless to try to appeal to them. It's best to let them be.
I guess it's real then, interesting ideas for sure. I'm trusting the process and the studio.
Most of the complaints I hear seem too unreasonable. I simply want to see what Mike and Bryan create.
That is the issue these days with most fandoms, most people don't try to be reasonable, everyone is looking for the hot takes.
And people love to make assumptions. I've seen people already saying stuff like "hard pass, the creators are coward for technologically resetting this world", even though all we know is so vague that it is a massive reach to just assume that the technological progress of LOK will be completely lost.
Another thought: How difficult is to travel between the seven havens? Maybe there is a portal in each one of them? Maybe the cataclysm Korra had to stop created four new spirit portals around the world. It would make sense.. If one rogue spirit canon had enough energy to tore open new portal, maybe if, let's say, Korra had to stop an impacting asteroid or something like that, it would be enough energy to open multiple portals.. Then havens developed around these portals.. Maybe because people tried to escape the wasteland into the spirit world to seek refuge there. But spirits didn't let them to spread around the spirit world, so the portals are now dangerous to come through and can be used only for quick journeys between the seven havens. .. Lots o possibilities!! My mind is going wild, LOL : ))
I'm glad someone else made the connection between the spirit cannon/portals and the cataclysm that ruins everything. I really think this is the result of a war using the spirit weapons that ripped apart the stability between the worlds, and the seven havens are the result of the war.
Just a random thought I had just now: Maybe they being twins makes Raava randomly manifest within one or the other. Never both of them at the same time. It opens some interesting dynamics and story beats.. Like loosing Avatar powers in the middle of the fight as Raava randomly jumps over to the other twin. Maybe the reason the connection is unstable like this is that crazy thing Korra had to do to save the world.. I don't know.. Just thinking the possibilities : )
I have another theory. Raava once said if she killed Vaatu or vice-versa that either spirit will grow back within eachother until the next Harmonic Convergence.
During Harmonic Convergence after Korra killed Unalaq and Vaatu, and she fuses back with Raava, it's safe to assume that Korra has both Raava and Vaatu inside of her. Which evidently makes the avatar more powerful than before. After Korra death maybe the avatar spirit was so powerful couldn't choose one person to be the avatar.
Maybe the twins are human-spirit hybrids/one of their parents was a spirit and that's why both of them were born as avatars.
I hope this dont do this. Not becase it doesnt sound cool, but because twins arent born at the same time. If the Avatar is a reincarnation then the twin that was born when Korra died should be the Avatar.
I initially had some mixed reactions to the info. But i want to wait to see the context of course.
As for "avatar-like abilities" it makes me think of Yun bending paint or Iroh developing lightning re-direction by watching water benders. That maybe with the white lotus having the twin study other elements she develops earth techniques that mimic them.
One thing i'm confused by is all of this art and info saying the avatars are nine. But a soryboard i saw (where the cat basically sucks on her head/hood lol) she looked significantly older.
So is there a timejump early on or i am just bad at judging ages?
I think she looks very young in the coloured image, storyboards and the animatic.
The animatic where the cat sucks on her head, doesn't give you a great view of her, until right towards the end, but I do think she defintiely comes across young.
Maybe 9 won't be the finalised age, but they seem to be going younger than Aang for sure.
"Avatar-like powers" don't have to be elemental at all: previous lives memories, Aang (and Jinora)-like spirit tracking and projections, ability to change and mold spirit world like Korra did, even just Avatar Spirit technically doesn't have to involve elements -- just stuff like glowing eyes and channeling previous lives bringing out their voice, wisdom and apparitions
I wonder when we’ll hear official news about this. I can’t wait for the first trailer!!!
@@billyiswaiting Would love a trailer. It takes really long to make an animated series so i wonder when we can expect one. I suspect the show might come out early 2026 so maybe summer idk.
Also I am curious for the reasoning why did the White Lotus only trained one of the twins. Even if they though they knew which one of them is the Avatar, it would make total sense to keep the other one around.. Even just for body-double purpose.. Or just in case they are wrong about the identity of the Avatar.. I would want to keep the second most likely person to be an Avatar at close hands.. C'mon, White Lotus can't be that reckless : )
@@therion108 They must have done some of the usual tests and went with one of them thinking she was the real deal. But dumping the other twin doesn't make much sense, even if she isn't the Avatar. That's just heartless.
That body double remark made me envision one of them getting absolutely obliterated and White Lotus just shrugs and says "Well, at least we have another one."
Damn. My brain is cursed.
My longshot theory is that Nikki the non-Avatar twin is actually a reincarnation of yun and Father glowworm.
It's been a long standing headcanon of mine that reincarnation was just kind of the standard in universe and the avatars case was only special because raava made it easy to connect to those past lives. Im not sure if yun and father glowworm would've bonded like that because there wasnt a spirit portal or harmonic convergence going on at that moment, so im not sold on it but i gotta put it out there in case im right
I've also just been dying for more yun he's one of my favorite characters
im personally so glad they are taking risks with this.
I think the show sounds interesting especially after knowing a lot of the lore for the series. A lot of these plot points have parallels in the books so it feels like the books were priming us for this. I also feel like fans need to relax. Mike and Bryan made it clear in the past they do not like rehashing old stuff. We still have the past lore and the past shows as well as books, comics, and potentially games all taking place with the past with the series staples in place. I think It's cool and exciting to see them experiment and try new things with the world. We also have no idea how it will be written or what the show will actually be like. This could be a fresh start and a chance to take the series in a direction we have never seen before.
Could the sister Nicki be the reincarnation of Yun and still bonded to Father Glowworm somehow? Her bending could be very powerful and varied and she might be able to see her past lives back to Yun which seems like an avatar power. Plus she would also be able to tunnel to the spirit world. With the mention of the Glowing Eyeball, I think this idea might be something!
I feel like korra would’ve had to be at least 40 years old to remake/reshape the world. It’s far enough that it would make her in her prime.
Look I know like Korra many will feel off about it and there will be things people don’t like, but so long as they try and give us a good story and characters we should be eating good despite our grievances
This is all just speculation. For all we know, Avatar Studios has scrapped these ideas, assuming they're even accurate.
That would be crazy if the reason for the leaks is that this all was just one of the ideas and now it's scrapped and final show will be completely different. Though I don't think it would get to story-board, animatics, etc. stage if this was just one of the ideas.
@therion108 Storyboards get scrapped all the time. There's no way of telling if these leaks will reflect the final product.
@@vetarlittorf1807 Aha, okay, thanks for clarifying!
Its legit, Avatar studious is trying to silence people who are spreading the leaks. Such as avatarist, his video got copyright striked and removed. I doubt they scrap the idea given how far along in the process they are.
@gamingwitharlen2267 No. Only the storyboard is legit. The plot details are just rumors that Avatarist is framing as legit and that's why his video was removed.
Also, they're not far along in the process. They're mostly working on the Aang movie now. The series hasn't even been given a release date. It's still in pre-production.
Maybe whatever is responsible for what happens and Korra needs to resolve might be introduced in the next Aang movie, or any of the other projects before the series.
It's probably the result of the spirit cannon technology Varrick created. A full scale war using these cannons would probably destabilize the worlds.
Well a korra movie was green lit so it makes sense for it to be revealed in that movie.
It makes sense to show what led to this in the Korra movie but i think the show would have flashbacks too while the movie will go into detail.
What if the two girls were attacked by rebels/Equalists and the non avatar twin displayed some spiritual power that made them believe she's the avatar, while pavi was less confrontational and lost her leg
1.) Speedprime a user said THIS here:
"Not quite. Avatar Studios is still a subsidiary of Nickelodeon, so Nick will definitely still have some sway. We can only hope they learned their lesson with Korra and will be a little more lenient."
Is it true hope not ?
2.) something else, is Avatar Studios now dependent on Paramount and Nickelodeon or independent ?
3.) someone else wrote this:
"Paramount owns the rights to the show via Nickelodeon… I don’t think Avatar Studios have a choice if they want to create shows with the IP"
What do you think i tought that avatar studios is to 100% free and has the 100% freedom now or is it wrong ????
Overall we don't know the full details of exactly how much freedom Mike and Bryan have to do whatever they want with Avatar Studios.
Clearly Paramount really believe in the franchise giving them a full studio to make multiple projects and now stuff like a AAA game is finally happening.
My guess is that part of the deal is probably stuff like "You can make these 6 projects and you can do what ever you want with 3 of them, but 2 of them have to be ATLA/Aang focused and 1 has to be for this demographic"
Because my understanding of Mike and Bryan is that the 2026 Aang movie is probably not their personal pick for the initial go to project, they seem like they always want to do new stuff. So my guess is that they probably realise combined with what Paramount want, that they need to hit those nostaligia points as well as do fully new stuff.
So I think they have a lot of freedom, but it likely isn't complete absolute freedom to just have every project be everything they want. Paramount/Nick definitely have a say, but I think it is a decent bit different to how things were during ATLA and Korra.
In terms of your reference to how Nick treated Korra, that I don't think will happen here, Paramount are all in on Avatar so they are not going to treat their big new franchise that badly.
@@AirspeedPrime1.) THEY have to MAKE NEW projects because Paramount says so. What do you think Mike and Byran want to do if they had 100% freedom? Would Mike and Byran really concentrate on PAST projects or would they still be 50/50 on the new and is it bad for them?
2.) But CAN Avatar Studios be 100% independent of Paramount so that they have 100% freedom or is that a bad idea?
3.) But why is Avatar Studios NOT allowed to have 100% complete freedom in Paramount? What kind of people and companies are these but Avatar Studios can be 100% reassured that they are with Paramount, right, and no longer with Nickelodeon or please reassure me Airspeedprime that Avatar Studios is finally safe?
4.) Can Avatar Studios be as successful as Marvel Studios?
5.) Does Disney also treat Marvel Studios badly? If so, do you think that at some point in 10 years Paramount will treat Avatar Studios badly like with marvel studios/mcu? And I thought that Nick no longer has ANY say and is no longer there because it comes from Paramount?
@14:58 Geet doesnt look like a "big fluffy cat" lol idk why people keep saying this. He straight up looks like Momo, scaled up in size and with a cat's face
My point is more that in comparison to some of the earlier concept stuff, the I assume mroe finalised Animatic design is IMO somewhat noticeably different. Leaning to being rounder and a bit fluffier than the more lean looking design elsewhere.
Sure still cat monkeys, but at least to me the animatic feels more cat than monkey overall, while the other stuff feels more monkey.
Interpretations.
Been complaining about the lack of news for ages, that went from 0 to 100 real fast, didn't it.
About the series, I think i can grow warm with Pavi and Geet, i just hope the twin avatar thing (At least not both having Raava) isn't coming to light but i might need to see an episode or two to make up my mind. Pavi looks like she is of Indian decent, an ethnic which we haven't see so far in the world of Avatar and her name also suggests that. India is part of the asian continent and since everything is asia based in Avatar, it wouldn't be too far off to see, although still a bit weird that we have never seen more characters like her? Or maybe we have and i've forgotten i have the memory of a goldfish.
i only see one way how the twin avatar thing would canonically work for me, by having the other girl get the reincarnated Vaatu, this way she would have Avatar like powers but not access to all 4 elements. But otherwise, there is no way Raava can split between two people when she only reincarnates in one human. Unless they write that in, which would be stupid to constantly change how things in that world work. Vaatu is probably not coming back for another 10 000 years so i don't know how that theory would work unless the cataclysmic event that happens near Korra's end causes massive spiritual energy to release and speeds up the process immensely.
The rivalry between the twins reminds me of Legend of Genji where they also had a "fake" Avatar that was announced by the White Lotus while the real Avatar was forgotten and lived in a sandbender slum (Whats up with Earth Kingdom messing this up so much) and i actually like that they went with that idea. The fact that Nikki is powerful makes me think that she actually has Vaatu inside of her and that is why she was falsely announced as the Avatar, maybe there is no way to differentiate between the real and Dark Avatar until someone bends another element or the eyes glow purple. Otherwise, how can someone have "Avatar like powers"?
I don't want to jump to hate before i have even seen one trailer but i am a little bit worried about the age though. It worked with Aang but Pavi and Nikki are three years younger than that. The apocalyptic events might force them to mature faster than normal kids so there's that.
Jargala and Guru Pathik would be two characters who I believe are inspired by South Asia. King Bumi also, it is definitely there as the Earth Kingdom is so massive diverse.
I am no expert on what real world stuff everything is based on, so others probably have more details on this topic.
@@AirspeedPrime I knew i forgot someone and i even had a rewatch couple months ago.
All the Gurus and Bumi look indie but still, the Earth Kingdom is mostly based on chinese dynasties so they are rare in that sense. But i don't know much about that aswell so i don't want to make any false assumptions.
Any chance that the cataclysmic event is Sozin’s Comet returning but actually colliding with the world ? It seemed like it was in close proximity to the world during ATLA - who’s to say that its trajectory might not change slightly ? If my math is correct then Korra should be around 50 on its return.
i hate this fandom. they hate anything that’s not atla 2.0. haven’t even gotten an official trailer and people are saying it’s the death of the franchise? mind you the movie is what we are getting first so if anything make your opinions after that comes out. anyway, thank you for always presenting the information in an unbiased way without all the preconceptions of what you think the series SHOULD be.
ppl can have opinions. i don't want ATLA 2.0, but i don't wanna see a twin Avatar, not the abolishment of the Nations, either. but i respect your opinion. you should respect mine, as well as those of others. basic manners.
@@sircuphead-ju7wl A cyber punk world < destroyed world, plus don't hate on the twin avatar stuff when you have literally 0 information on how it works.
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@@gamingwitharlen2267 that's your opinion. i think the CONCEPT of a twin Avatar is dumb. but i won't try to boycott the actual cartoon till it releases
@@sircuphead-ju7wlI'm pretty sure we won't see twin Avatars. I don't get why people are even entertaining that notion.
I think that the power Aang might face in the movie could be some form of precursor to the disaster that Korra has to face. That way the movie has at least some connection to the show.
Guy’s the animal she’s riding is a Hogmonkey
Its unfortunate that the new avatar is already getting some hate before we even get a damn trailer of this new series lmao. Maybe it's just a twitter thing you know people on their like to exaggerate their issues on things and they have only watched ATLA when it was on netflix. Maybe the actual avatar community is more open, but i've just seen nothing but negativity which is a shame
That's just the way Twitter is. It's always mostly negative toward anything Avatar if it's not related to Aang, or any Avatar that was shown in ATLA to be honest. I love all of Avatar, and I got to say this looks AMAZING. If were up to some fans we would never move on from ATLA. Plus some of the Avatar fandom really hates any sorts of change.
The same thing happend with Korra and It never really stopped until reseantly when the fandom foind a new apreciación but morras haters are still outdare, I have a feeling that fans Will be More perseptive with this one, the new avatar linda looks like Toph and I think it's on purpuse, she Is a fan fav
I have my doubts this show will happen and even if it does and with this story line I have a feeling it is going to be terrible
So far I like the prospects of this show quite a lot! Little bit afraid of the twins shenanigans, but even that can turn out to be an amazing story arc. Finally, we have something more specific to look forward to. Hyped !!
I absolutely love the concept for Pavi so far. The possible script that I read definitely feels very much like Avatar, and I also wanted to always explore wherever in the Avatar world is based on India and where Pathik & Jargala came from. Hating her for her ethnicity, disability or just being a new Avatar is already happening and I hate it so much.
I actually have a theory now that Elora may be visited by Aang in the movie considering the working title was 'Hidden Kingdom'. Could Elora be a semi-secret Earth Kingdom civilization underground? I just came up with this after reading that IRL, Ellora is the name of a sacred carved rock temple complex in India that have been called 'cave-like' although they are open.
Still very, very uncertain on the status of the world. If you're more of an ATLA purist that much change might be alarming, if you're a Korra fan it's sad she didn't have a good legacy after all she went through - I mean she potentially saw more deaths than the entire Hundred Year War if the most extreme scenario is correct. It seems depressing that we may be getting a situation pretty close to what Vaatu wanted to do to the world, save for the seven sanctuaries. I'm also still unsure about using so many ideas from the previous 4 Avatars as well as popular fan concepts. I know I'll probably eventually like anything Avatar but I want to just get it out there. At least we can mentally prepare for a worst-case status of the world before we know more details.
Also I remember there was a rumor that Priyanka Chopra was going to voice an Avatar. If not an adult Pavi could this be a past Avatar from Elora that Aang talks to in the new movie? Or maybe a different character for the show like Pavi & Nikki's mother
I always thought for years this post apocalypse thing would be the best the big robot in book 4 was dumb to me and made me think the avatar world was having to mutch technology if they had a next avatar the world would no longer be ancient so the only way to make technology go back is to have a apocalypse
@@BlakeHenderson-m9o Yea same, there is so much opportunity for great story telling, rather than a cyber punk world with a massive robot vs avatar.
Jae will probably be Jinora and Kai’s son
I wonder how they'll the differentiate the twin's upbringing by the White Lotus from Korra's upbringing by the White Lotus. With Korra we already get a lot of the "coddled and isolated from the wider world" type beats, so what will they change to show a different take? Maybe the twin isn't all that rebellious?
The animal guide kinda looks like a combination of Naga and Pabu
the purple hair design looks so terrible I can’t believe it’s the final version.
I was already apprehensive about her age but if Bryke can’t even do proper art direction anymore then this show really will kill the franchise. The air nomad’s design is even worse, so bland. If you put Pavi in a lineup with previous Avatars she sticks out like a sore thumb.
Jae isn’t an air nomad. He seems to be descended from the air benders who didn’t join Tenzin in LOK Book 3, which is why he doesn’t dress like one. An earlier design of him in the concept art with the wasteland shows him with air nomad tattoos, but it was dropped in favor of the finalized outfit with air nomad colors as he isn’t a traditional air bender.
Man I reserve Judgement until it comes out but I can tell you now Korra REALLY isn't beating those " worst Avatar ever" allegations.
The fandom's obsession with there being a worst Avatar is an absolute plague on the fandom. Always lacking in nuance, and the fact that people are already adding this into the discussion when we have basically no context is crazy.
@@AirspeedPrime I will say this : the leaked image of the ruins of Omashu were genuinely heartbreaking.
The avatar can't force humanity to make the right choices. Especially post-indutrial humans with technology. Cities are often driven to grow and tend to make choices only based on their own interests. Now arm those cities with the spirit weapons Varrick invented right as society rapidly grows and changes in the modern era. Whatever Korra did, she needed to do it to prevent humans from completely wiping themselves out.
I really believe the reason why this is always the popular discussion like on Twitter is cuz a lot of fans are just incapable to discuss these shows beyond the surface level. It may sound pretentious but that’s what it feels like to me at this point
I don't know how to feel about a couple of things.
First the twins treatment: of course i don't believe in the twin avatar theory cause that's a huge stretch, even if we leave lore and world building behind and talk more pragmatically, we only have two mass media products (comics are not as huge as shiws) they have a lot of time to explore more before relying on such as rule breaking idea.
Leaving that aside, the treatment reserved to the twins sounds a bit like a recycle of Kyoshi-Yun dynamic. I hope they elaborate something different, like the non avatar twin being completely neglected from the beginning, and build up resentment. Or just her feeling so much inferior, and explore their relationship where, maybe, the avatar try to help her building more and more confidence. We never seen a real breaking and serious problem in avatar close blood family.
Secondly, the setting: that's just my personal preference. I really like the idea of a post apoc world, a cyberpunk setting as it was rumored before would have been a too big and too early step in world building.
But personally I prefer nore when post apoc are not toxic and deserted wasteland, but more vivid spaces made of vines and nature taking back human spaces and creating new hybrid structures.
But aside from that, cool concept. and if someone say it's just a re use of Wan era...in that time people where recluded on cities due to prejudice towards spirits, now it's a more concrete issue
My last consideration is that avatar fandom is so baitable. The majority of people, who aren't 100% deeply involved in it, are fully convinced fan theories are canon. Bone Bending, Twin Avatars, Evil Avatar, Missing arm Avatar, previous reincarnation lover looking alike Avatar, switching gender every reincarnation, Genji. I mean, just apply some critical thinking and a little amount of research and you can easily debunk 80% of those.
Oh yes...a good route they can follow to justify the misrecognition of who's the avatar is that the non avatar twin can be a master in all sub bending form. If something like lavabending knowledge went almost forgotten that can easily looks like fire bending, or sand as air.
Fantastic video man ❤
Dude I watched Korra as it aired, the opinions of others mean nothing to me
So did I, lol, but even I can recognize a show just completely transforming itself for no reason. The fandom made it clear what it wanted, yet we get retcons, and a pigeonholling of Korra into what everyone who hated LoK said she is.
I believe that Yue is the answer to the Avatar sisters' dynamics.
As a baby, Yue received part of the "soul", "spirit", "aura", "chi field" of the Moon Spirit (Tui) and becomes a "Horcrux". Perhaps Tui had prior knowledge of his death and needed that life ballast?
During this energy exchange, Yue's hair changes color.
Moving on to Pavi and Nikki, it would be possible for Nikki to have been born lifeless and Raava-Pavi transferred part of the "Spirit" which became the Avatar's "Horcrux".
And a possible change would be to have two bendings.
I don't mind Pavi or her design (even though I get some of the pokemon complaints), I just don't like the core premise of this show. I would say we didn't get Aang's death as a plot point but I guess we're getting Korra's death as a plot point here.
How they go about it will be the most important thing but on a conceptual level I'm sold on the (alleged) direction. Hope we see something in 2025.
If you dont mind in a little bit i would love to give you my full thoughts on everything and see what you think of what i say. Is that ok? I love the sound of this new show and we must stick together.
What if the only time they could go into the avatar state is when they're together
Whereee do I find it 😭 I'm late I can't find anything now
I dunno ... Without the Four Nations is this really the world of Avatar anymore, or just another post- apocalyptic world? And how would the world reorganize in such a radical way -- are the Water Tribes really not living at the Poles anymore? I just worry that they risk losing the integrity and richness of the original vision.
This alleged new series just sounds horrible! Korra dying like that, all that happened basically undone by an apocalypse. Just awful!
These damn leaks better be fake!
Let Korra and Asami have their happy ending and die in bed.
Dunno what’s angry but honestly I’m just happy that it’s (highly likely) real
Well as long as it is well written I don't really care too much about the massive changes.
also i love that Pavi is so short and young
Do you think the animation or artstyle looks too much like pokemon and real anime? People have complained about that.
Looks like the Studio Mir western anime style, that is basically the Avatar style. Looks great to me, while also acknowledging that we don't have much in that finalised form.
@@AirspeedPrime Do you think studio mir is coming back for the show? They arent working on the movie but im not sure if flying bark productions will be working on the shows too or just the movies.
@@JamStan1978 No idea, it looks VERY studio mir, but I do think their style is basically the Avatar style and other people can do it.
My guess is that with so many projects planned they will need another animation studio to be involved and they have the history with the franchise. We will have to wait and see if they are involved.