Keep honest people honest by removing the temptations. It's more convenient to take precautions then suffer the consequences. Totally agree with you. Thank you.
Never give a mug an even break, my old Uncle used to say . Thieves are lazy and will almost always move on to to vehicle that appears easier to steal . Good video Kevin .
There is one point worth mentioning that you may want to include if you do another video on bike theft and it doesn't cost a dime. That is to always try to park in a well lit area. Whenever I'm traveling I always try to park in the area in front of the door to the hotel where I'm staying. Of course this isn't always possible but most hotels are sympathetic to bike riders and will let you if it's safe to do so. If you use the tips provided in this video and park in a well lit busy area you bike is less likely to be stolen.
Here's a couple more thoughts. If you are trailering a bike and might be leaving it overnight in a motel parking lot, cable or chain the bike to the trailer or at least use a disc lock. Also make sure the trailer is locked to the tow vehicle. They make a sliding lock that goes through the hitch lever that prevents the hitch from being opened. Also, a locking gas cap will prevent any tampering.
I use the following eight layers of protection for piece of mind and a good night's sleep: 1. Steering lock 2. Front disc lock 3. Rear disc lock 4. Rear tyre clamp (meant for a car but fits perfectly on my bike) 5. Clamp that locks the throttle and front brake into position, with an in-built alarm 6. Chain the front tyre to a fixed object 7. Bike cover 8. Park a small car in front of it, both obscuring my bike and making it almost impossible for a would-be thief to get my bike past it, as it's surrounded by fixed objects Also, my bedroom window is only several metres from where my bike is locked up. I would say that it was, at first, a little inconvenient to put all these measures in place after a ride, but now I'm used to it, and it only takes a couple of minutes. There's nothing more inconvenient than having your pride and joy stolen, not that it has ever happened to me. Fingers crossed it ever will.
I do the same, but additionaly add two mean looking dogs, one tied to the front wheel, the other to the back wheel. I also put three cameras around the bike, watching it the whole time. I also don't sleep, looking out for thieves the whole night.
One extra tip when touring and parking and there’s no solid object to chain to, is to look for other bikes that are chained together. Then chain your bike to theirs by passing your chain through their chain, then all bikes are reasonably safe and the other guys can leave when they want. This is accepted all over Europe, also on BMW bikes don’t use the handlebar lock, as they have a fitted ‘antenna’ ring on the ignition barrel so when the key is inserted it talks to the ECU and allows the bike to start, and it can’t be ‘hot wired’, so why have the handlebar lock and ignition lock wrecked that cost me £2,000 and they still didn’t get the bike, as it was chained via the back wheel to a concrete post and an Abus disk lock on the front wheel. Lesson learned.👍😃
I installed the Harley Security Siren onto both of my touring bikes. It's loud if you try to move it without the key fob or entering the PIN. It's not perfect but, it will bring attention to someone trying to take the bike. I have an install video on my channel for those that are interested. Thanks Kevin. 👍👊🇺🇸
I always lock the forks when I walk away from the bike. When parking it overnight or parking it in an area that seems less secure, I also add the caliper lock to the front right side disc. I usually also put the bike on the center stand. I figure the act of taking it off the center stand with the wheel turned to full lock means they would very likely end up dropping the bike during the process and therefore won't be likely to attempt it. I don't know that center standing the bike makes much difference, but, like all security, it's a series of layers that makes the overall opportunity cost higher to the would be thief.
I can almost guarantee that they will drop the bike if the wheel is locked and on an center stand. I don't use my steering lock because I've dropped my bike in the garage when the forks were locked.
I've had two motorcycles stolen. This was back in 2004 (two in one year!), so GPS and things like that were very uncommon. I was living in a college town, and I never thought I'd be a victim. The bike were parked in a carport outside my apartment. As a new rider, and about 22 years old, I just left them there unsecured. I had good coverage and taking the insurance payout was much easier than waiting around. The second bike was recovered a year later when a drunk crashed it into a tree. By that time, I'd already purchased a new Honda Shawdow and secured it with a logger's chain. I live in the city and do not have a garage. Where I live is very high crime. When I had my Triumph Bonneville America from 2008-2013, I parked it on the street outside the house. A kid vandalized it one, causing minor damage, but no thefts. I have a small bike now, which stays on my partially enclosed back porch with a cover, disc lock, and a surveillance camera. Plus, I have the best insurance policy one can get. I don't worry much.
Many of the sport bikes stolen end up as parts for racing bikes. When I flew my bike to Europe and couldn't get theft insurance I bought a hunking big ABUS chain and disk lock and a cover. I had read the Reddit posts before I left. But as you said, if they want your bike they will get it. Many of the videos from high theft areas show bikes being lifted onto cube vans. A couple of locks and good insurance are the best way to go! Also don't post Relive videos or geotagged photos that show where you live- you're just helping bike theft by order thieves.
yes, those minitrucks and minivans are stable for bike thieves, they lift the whole thing with the locks on a pickup or minitruck and then deal with the locks in their garage, it's better the locks have an alarm to raise suspicion
I stayed away from buying a motorcycle because of how easy they are to steal in UK. Couple of years ago I bought a motorcycle and park it on the streets. I always have 2 disk locks away from home and at home I have 2 chains and 2 disk locks together with a cover. I always see evidence of tampering but it's never been stolen. It's a hustle to lock it up but the day I'm complacent. Someone's going 2 punish me
My first bike, that I bought at auction, was stolen after 18 days. The OPP called me a couple weeks later to say they had recovered it. Fortunately, the impound yard told me that they wouldn't add insult to injury and didn't charge me anything (thief used a sports bike like a dual sport). After that, I always used a cover, occasionally a bicycle Kryptonite lock, and in a parking garage I park over an oil spot so it looks like I ride an old piece of crap.
I met this couple during Bike Week a couple years ago. They were from out of town and they were staying at a hotel in Daytona. They both rode pretty nice Harley's. After their first day of riding they went back to the hotel. The next morning their bikes were gone, never recovered. I felt horrible for them, Harley's are targeted big time around Biketoberfest and Bike Week.
I got a Monimoto recently and it worked flawlessly right out of the box here in Austin. It's my last resort though. More of a piece of mind thing. I take all of the other precautions that you mentioned in one form or another depending on where I'm at.
Hi Mc. good video. couple points, when first got my fazer my insurance advisor told me that if my bike was stolen and if I had not put steering lock on they will not payout, so thats the first pont. second I used to use a disc lock on the front, one day forgot about it being there, consequently dropped her, the point is you need a reminder like a cord fittedto the handlebar. thirdly I now use a handlebar lock, this goes around the throttle and brake lever, its easy to fit and remove before Starting the bike. I have used a chain and lock, its covered in fabric so is fairly safe. cheers again.
On a trip I put a caliper lock on the front wheel, lock the handlebars and I put a cover over it with a perimeter alarm attached to the cover. If someone lifts the cover it will pull the pin and it screams with the same decibel of a police siren, it is loud and will draw attention. You can use a key chain alarm as well, on the cover. Make sure the alarm is just inside the cover where is is not visible for anyone to see. Just make sure you disarm it before you take the cover off in the morning. Good video, I never thought about putting the caliber on the back wheel, good advice a usual. Thanks
👍Our bikes are garaged at home, when parked in town, in gear with fork locked, when traveling, the same as above plus covers and the rear wheels cabled together…all good advice…if we ride to Mexico in ‘22, we’ll add caliper locks.
If you can believe this, my buddy bought a brand new Indian Super Chief this year and it does not have any kind of handlebar lock. So, he bought a little device that goes on the clutch handle or brake handle that locks it into position so that the bike is not drivable. Still, not having a handlebar lock was a frustrating realization for him after spending all that money on a brand new bike.
Your story of using a screwdriver to start your car takes me back to college days, where the older tractors could be started using the dipstick if you didn't want to go and get the key.
Awesome video! I maybe a little over board!!! I double chain to a fixed object with an cover that has the eyelet for chain :first one around frame and front tire and : second one around rear tire and frame ! It’s backed up against my deck on the center stand with the front wheel turned towards the wall and the handlebars locked ,Right in front of the camera… lol it’s also fully insured 🤷🏼
That's what I do Kevin. I got a $27,000 Honda Goldwing Tour. I got the locked bike cover, Disk caliber lock in the front, a Cable and lock that runs through the wheels through the center stand that cannot be cut and a motion sensor that will get some attention if it falls to the ground from the seat on the bike.
Thank you Kevin for all your insight, another great video again!! Also thank you for your openness on that product (remote alarm). Keep it coming I’ve enjoyed all your videos!
Harleys and other big bike are harder to move, so are less likely to be stolen. One guy I know drilled a hole through the interior wall of each of his saddleboxes, and slips a piece of rebar through the holes (and the spokes on the rear wheel). All that a potential thief could know is that the bike stops rolling after a couple of inches. A good alarm is a must, prefer one with a jiggle switch. The best follow-up to an alarm going off is an armed response.
I used to be a fan of the disc lock, until 1 day I just rolled my bike back about 4 inches to check the tire pressure as I do before each ride. The pin of the lock broke like a pretzel stick. Great topic Kevin.
I have heard cheaper ones are not very reliable. The former thief in the Reddit post recommended spending at leas %100 for a good lock. Thanks for sharing. I believe this to be a good option: www.mcrider.com/DiskLock
Good advise as always. I'm not sure if I can get to my rear caliber to use that locking system. I had no idea that a cover would discourage thefts. I thought Harley covers were just asking to be stolen. I was also surprised about the theft statistics. Keep up the good work you do.
Hello Kevin, another option when at an event would be to get a group together and post a guard. This could be done day or night. Most likely at night. Maybe a hour or so each. Thanks Lt. Kevin.
@@RayfordRaySiegel How much would you charge to watch over your motorcycle and the motorcycles of your friends for an hour? Eight friends get together for one hour each and all of your bikes are safe overnight.
@@henrydillard6217, Being in a club isn't going to stop a thief, because you and the club members won't be around the bike, all the time, just as other riders won't be around their bikes. all the time. And a thief probably doesn't care if a bike belongs to a club member.
One thing you didn't mention was a ground anchor. I chain my bike to a ground anchor that cannot be pulled out (at least not easily). My Monimoto works fine in the UK - sometimes too well when the battery in the key fob goes flat. Years ago someone stole overnight the front forks, wheel and fairing off my Honda CB 550X, leaving the rest of the bike where it was.
For many this is overkill. I got: 1. ABUS 14KS black loop chain. 2. Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit New York 1410 chain. Both are attached to motorbike frame and to an Abus wall anchor. 3. A smaller Kryptonite chain attached to rear wheel and motorbike frame. 4. Abus brake disc lock with alarm. 5. Two Oxford big locks with alarm attached to the bike and chains. 6. Monimoto 7 tracker. Bike has already its factory alarm and I always lock the handlebar. Always use the motorbike cover.
Or you can get a siren for the built-in anti-theft system for your Harley-Davidson that screams if someone moves the bike and they don't have the key fob. Thieves are basically lazy and don't want to draw attention to themselves. I don't believe I have ever had a hotel tell me I couldn't park right in front of the hotel doors where the night auditor would hear or see someone stealing my bike. The other thing you can do is if you want to chain your bike down is to get one of those corkscrew looking things made to chain your dog in the yard and weld the loop shut. There's too many revolutions to get it out of the ground to do that if the chain or cable is tight. Can it be done, of course, but they will move on to an easier target. Keep the good stuff coming Kevin.
When I ride to work I do not park in the building car park as a thief could reasonably expect that the bike will be sitting there between 10AM and 3PM without anyone coming in our going out. Instead I rent a space in an apartment block across the road from work that has shops on ground level. It's also good that the bike can't be seen from the street so I expect that helps. The business owners and residents come and go all day so there is always someone around plus to get into the car park you need to use a special type of key to get in and out. Then I 1) lock the forks 2) put the bike in gear 3) use the factory immobiliser 4) disk lock on the front 5) disk lock on the rear 6) chain the bike through the rear wheel to a concrete pillar that supports the concrete floor above.
Love your videos. Is there any way you can do a video on the GPS tracker and the app to do a trial run.? Have someone try to roll it away while you're at your house or something? I don't live in the best neighborhood and I need something that works really well.
In the surveillance cam video, i was surprised to see the fork lock defeated by just a leg kick. Mine, built in by Honda, is a 8mm shaft that engages deep into a pretty sturdy hole in the fork triple tree frame. The thief was expert as his partner on bike stayed beside so it didn't look suspicious at all on street level. Just two guys riding together, and one dealing with a little mechanical "problem"
I have a Brand new G-4 Roof antenna with cables . indoor Signal booster and indoor antenna for G-4.. Most GPS trackers need a clear view of the sky for a Satellite signal .. If they put your bike in a metal Van or store it in a Metal building.. the tracker won't work ..
I have seen videos that show most steering locks are easy to break .. I just lost my disc lock .. The day after I recived my new disc lock I found one in my the top cover for my tank bag.. I had put it in there as a weight to keep the tank bag cover open while it was drying out.. I just got a light cover I can carry in my luggage while travelling.. Locking the cover from side to side is a great idea..
Oh my goodness, Thank you so much for this particular content! I was just wondering about ways to secure my future motorcycle at home. I was "literally" thinking about it, and was going to start researching today. Truly a blessing that you created this video at this time. Thank you very much.
I have moni moto 7 installed on my motorcycle and function very well,it does work with satellite gps not data gos and lot of people use it around the world,not sure you installed it correctly .
Locks only keep honest folks honest. I read the dudes entire thread and all comments. Apparently Harley’s are big money. And if it’s a real pro performing the theft and he really wants your bike, there’s nothing you can do to prevent it. Eventually he will find a way to get it if he really can get big bucks for it. The security equipment is a deterrent for the rookie/semi-pro thieves. The stuff he said is unreal. RF blocking paint in his chop shop????
There is a fob sensitivity range adjustment that might be set to maximum that prevents the alarm from triggering when not reduced to a realistic distance.
I thought it was easier to stop motorcycle theft over the pond than here in the UK. Just pull your gun out and say 'I say here chap could you please stop stealing my bike' Sorted. 😁
That's exactly why there are fewer Harley thefts than Honda-Yam-Suz-Kaw.... The thought that a Harley owner will show up during the theft and shoot them. You meet the nicest people on a Honda.
@@MCrider oh I know. The thief is going to only go after bikes nobody is around. In the UK-EU bikes, especially mopeds, were stolen for years in cities to have a untraceable vehicle for stab and grab and purse snatching. Food delivery guys were often victims of both bike theft and robberies.
Got a new supercub... The thing is so light people can just lift it easily on a pickup... luckily it has an alarm and steering lock, I also chained the rear wheel to a fence
I have a hidden Apple Air Tag on mine - works like a charm. Tested it extensively and know when my bike is moved and where its at; accurate to within a couple of feet. $25 and you just need to replace the watch battery once every year or two (even warns you before it goes dead).
Talk about "old School"... but VERY un-expected by thieves... I do cover my bike when I Travel. Even though it is a "Sport Naked" I roll up my cover, and a very good-quality rain coat, and strap them on the passenger seat. (my 'passenger' generally rides her own bike when we travel.) But inside of my rain cover, I sewed a small loop... in a place where I can attach a "Cow Bell"... and if someone even Looks under the cover, or moves the bike, the cow bell sounds off! And the more they look for the Cow Bell... it will be rattling the entire time. But one of the main things to remember is TIME... the more TIME it will take a thief to get your bike moveable, the less likely they are to try to take it. And that will also mean some time for YOU to put those measures in place, and YOUR TIME to remove them and store them. But it is a small 'investment" to prevent a theft of YOUR bike. Make Some things Obvious... so they know it will take them time. And make some things 'hidden' so they will have to figure them out as they come to them. Make them use TIME to take your bike! { I have even "done things" to my Car, in much the same way, so even if they break into the car... it won't MOVE unless they drag it onto a flatbed... }
If one of them had a transponder locked to a security detail with 4 buff dudes with some weapons.... that truck would have had a bad day/night :).... Was at my uncle when a security detail came because of a break silent alarm, those thiefs had a really awful day when they came out of the house :) Monimoto works fine in Europe, GSM is very good there.....For America you would need another one. I just use a 150db motion alarm and a motorcycle cover...cat sat on the cover once, now he's giving it a 3 meter social distancing space :).
😁Buy a Goldwing...I had NEVER heard of anyone who said they had their Goldwing stolen.😎 Most want the crotch rocket, only "old men" want a Goldwing...👌🤟
You've got a great channel, Kevin, and you are a terrific teacher. However, some of your earlier videos are difficult to share because of the solid minute of promotion before you get into content. I would like to suggest that those videos might be improved by revisiting them, and editing in a shortened "please subscribe" message, maybe put some of that at the end. I tried showing my brother one of those, and he yawned and walked away bored before you had even started on the topic. Now that I know you, I don't really mind, and I'll gladly wait out that minute, but a guy like bro, he has no idea if the promo is going to be just one minute or five, he's not there to get sold something, he's there because I told him you have something interesting to say. When he sees that I brought him to an ad for a UA-cam channel, he gets turned off and never gets the benefit of your (truly awesome) commentary. I love you Kevin, and someday I'm going to watch your "about that eye" video. I'm kinda squeamish, which is why I haven't yet. I'd like to participate in a call-in sometime. I'm very curious to hear your opinions about some riding techniques that that I've developed over my 50+ years of motorcycling.
Not sure if it is true, but have heard from several Europeans that have lived in US, the best way to avoid car thieves is to get the car with manual transmission = ).......... about the bikes, probably locks are good and will take time to get rid of them for thieves, but if you are not living under constant sun shine it might be pretty messy operation to put them, if the tires are full of dust or just wet and have some other crap on them it make lock not so attarctive. Maybe covering the bike will be quite effective as well, at least it will be less attractive. Some noisy alarm system might be good as well. And for Harleys, many bikes brought from US to European market are significantly cheaper compared with local dealers, I guess that is one of the indication that bike might have been stolen, so don't think that bad about your local dealer, he might be just most honest one , who pays the taxes and and not stealing the bikes like some "import second hand bike from US LTD" companies might do it
GPS radio frequency is very high and will not penetrate into a metal structure. So you likely had a double trouble with cell and the GPS not being located
Thieves go for the easy bike so even the most basic security heavily reduces the chances of you bike being stolen, and you don’t even need to spend much even a $30 lock is a good start.
but it also depends on where you park it, if it's locked or an alarm goes off and nobody is around, like an isolated and desert suburb, it won't be much of a deterrent i remember a video of a bike chained to a tree, the thieve cut the tree down to steal it
@@PaulsMotoZen My dog is more noise than help, he's a 20lb terrier that thinks he's a 80lb dog. I have my choices, but I like John Browning's creations a lot.
Thanks Kevin! Had my ignition twisted on my Nighthawk, saved by the handlebar lock. Bought my Virago from the insurance company, it was stolen and recovered. God bless and stay safe.
That's another thing for the price of these Harleys they should come with an alarm like most cars... loud alarm if the bike is moved and resets after 30 seconds or so twice or three time redundant with lock on after with a free app locator from Harley just like an apple phone...... our insurance would go down
It's not really surprising that it's mostly Honda's and Yamaha's which are stolen, since they are the sold in the millions. It would be more interesting to see the percentage of each brand stolen.
I read the same article and one of the things I took away from it was he said he needs a shopping list before he goes looking for bikes to steal and the places he goes to the most is apartments buildings and factories. I tried a GPS tracker and had no luck with it either also Kevin isn't a bike alarm a good deterrent my BMW has a factory alarm and it's motion sensored it's also goes off if you cut wires it . I try and layer my protection even though the locking systems I use are not expensive they're going to have to cut at least three of them before they take my bike. And I always cover my bike even when I'm go camping and I lock it down covering my bike means the morning it'll be dry safe and if I need to have some space I can put my gear underneath it too. And the best trick I know to stop your bike from being stolen park beside a more expensive one like a Yamaha, Honda or a Harley-Davidson and make it hard for them to take yours.
My best: 1. Having unpopular bike Eyes is the problem, so double it with cover bike. As long as they don't see it worth, they won't steal. 2. Disk brake lock almost visible. I use allen key bolt, slip it in disk hole. Giving little shock when tires roll, then stop in sudden. 3. Remove ignition fuse Fuse is small easy to slip it in pocket or wallet. If leaving bike for long time. Unable to turn on engine if they think it's battery problem, using kick starter wont do either. They have to tow. 4. Pray For believers, ask protection from those evil people.
The ignition fuse just seems like it would just cause you more headaches than the thief. Most thieves will just load it on a van or trailer and take off, or just walk away with it if they can. I don't think they'll waste time trying to start it even if you left the fuse in place.
@@joemann7971 That's sounds like grand theft autos in my country. Every thief has different method to steal. And yes, every security is useless as it simple just load to a van or trailer, and disassemble on the way, then ship them to other Island.
Well, first i caught him pushing my honda 350 and i won't say what i did to him. Then i had three locks on my 1970 police HD that they TRIED to steal. Two reasons they didn't, I ALWAYS park my bikes in the LOW HOLE and I came back from work EARLY. JUNKIES. They were watching and were gone when i got there. I noticed the handle bars moved and they had cut all three locks. Because i left it in the low hole THEY were in such a hurry that they got the transmission hungup so bad they couldn't move it.
Quick note on 'bike covers: use a generic one, not a branded one. Otherwise you're just putting up a billboard that says 'Hey there's a Ducati here!', 'Come take this Harley!', etc.
Weird how you call it a caliper lock, you don't and can't lock a caliper well unless you use a handlebar lever lock to pull the lever which does lock up your front brakes, in the UK we call em a disk lock given that this is what you are actually locking by putting the lock through the disk. 🤷🏻♂️
When I am at home I use steering lock alarm over night it also gets caliper lock and parked under a carport that is fenced in. And happens to be part of my dog run. If you can get it out with out being ripped up by 2 wolf hybrid and the boxer. I'll sign the title over.
@@tpv59 about 15 years ago my house was robbed and it really sucked at the time I was into down MT. Bike racing and they took both my bikes 3 races left in the season and I was in a 3 way tie in my class. Ever since I take a lot of precautions
@@robertgutheridge9672 ''Thou shalt not steal''. Ex.20:15 (KJV) ''The wages of sin is DEATH''. Rom.6:23 (KJV) ''For MANY are called, but FEW are chosen''. Matt.22:14 (KJV) Mk.4:9 (KJV)
Same thing happened to me when my 125 got stolen & impounded - I just let them scrap it - I’ve got so many deterrents on my 2021 MT09sp including the built in immobiliser ;)
You can find links to the security products mentioned and a link to the Reddit thread here: www.MCrider.com/theft
Thank you will know from here on this info is there and not here.
Keep honest people honest by removing the temptations. It's more convenient to take precautions then suffer the consequences. Totally agree with you. Thank you.
Never give a mug an even break, my old Uncle used to say . Thieves are lazy and will almost always move on to to vehicle that appears easier to steal . Good video Kevin .
There is one point worth mentioning that you may want to include if you do another video on bike theft and it doesn't cost a dime. That is to always try to park in a well lit area. Whenever I'm traveling I always try to park in the area in front of the door to the hotel where I'm staying. Of course this isn't always possible but most hotels are sympathetic to bike riders and will let you if it's safe to do so. If you use the tips provided in this video and park in a well lit busy area you bike is less likely to be stolen.
Here's a couple more thoughts. If you are trailering a bike and might be leaving it overnight in a motel parking lot, cable or chain the bike to the trailer or at least use a disc lock. Also make sure the trailer is locked to the tow vehicle. They make a sliding lock that goes through the hitch lever that prevents the hitch from being opened. Also, a locking gas cap will prevent any tampering.
Thanks for this. It’s an interesting topic which not many people talk enough about.
The UK guys are screwed with all the bike and scooter thief’s over there!
These aggressiv guys may need to loose some fingers after getting caught
I use the following eight layers of protection for piece of mind and a good night's sleep:
1. Steering lock
2. Front disc lock
3. Rear disc lock
4. Rear tyre clamp (meant for a car but fits perfectly on my bike)
5. Clamp that locks the throttle and front brake into position, with an in-built alarm
6. Chain the front tyre to a fixed object
7. Bike cover
8. Park a small car in front of it, both obscuring my bike and making it almost impossible for a would-be thief to get my bike past it, as it's surrounded by fixed objects
Also, my bedroom window is only several metres from where my bike is locked up.
I would say that it was, at first, a little inconvenient to put all these measures in place after a ride, but now I'm used to it, and it only takes a couple of minutes. There's nothing more inconvenient than having your pride and joy stolen, not that it has ever happened to me. Fingers crossed it ever will.
I do the same, but additionaly add two mean looking dogs, one tied to the front wheel, the other to the back wheel. I also put three cameras around the bike, watching it the whole time. I also don't sleep, looking out for thieves the whole night.
@@valuemastery Sounds like you're making fun of me. To each his own.
Well, you know, if you just park the small car on top of the bike, you don't need to do any of those other things
@@joemann7971 Sure. Freaking hilarious.
I don't even lock my front door. I could leave a kick start dirt bike on my front lawn, and nobody's going to take it. Choose were you live.
One extra tip when touring and parking and there’s no solid object to chain to, is to look for other bikes that are chained together. Then chain your bike to theirs by passing your chain through their chain, then all bikes are reasonably safe and the other guys can leave when they want. This is accepted all over Europe, also on BMW bikes don’t use the handlebar lock, as they have a fitted ‘antenna’ ring on the ignition barrel so when the key is inserted it talks to the ECU and allows the bike to start, and it can’t be ‘hot wired’, so why have the handlebar lock and ignition lock wrecked that cost me £2,000 and they still didn’t get the bike, as it was chained via the back wheel to a concrete post and an Abus disk lock on the front wheel. Lesson learned.👍😃
I installed the Harley Security Siren onto both of my touring bikes. It's loud if you try to move it without the key fob or entering the PIN. It's not perfect but, it will bring attention to someone trying to take the bike. I have an install video on my channel for those that are interested. Thanks Kevin. 👍👊🇺🇸
Alarm is the best. If they just touch your bike a 112 DB ear killer will make them win the next marathon
I always lock the forks when I walk away from the bike. When parking it overnight or parking it in an area that seems less secure, I also add the caliper lock to the front right side disc. I usually also put the bike on the center stand. I figure the act of taking it off the center stand with the wheel turned to full lock means they would very likely end up dropping the bike during the process and therefore won't be likely to attempt it. I don't know that center standing the bike makes much difference, but, like all security, it's a series of layers that makes the overall opportunity cost higher to the would be thief.
I can almost guarantee that they will drop the bike if the wheel is locked and on an center stand. I don't use my steering lock because I've dropped my bike in the garage when the forks were locked.
I've had two motorcycles stolen. This was back in 2004 (two in one year!), so GPS and things like that were very uncommon. I was living in a college town, and I never thought I'd be a victim. The bike were parked in a carport outside my apartment. As a new rider, and about 22 years old, I just left them there unsecured. I had good coverage and taking the insurance payout was much easier than waiting around. The second bike was recovered a year later when a drunk crashed it into a tree. By that time, I'd already purchased a new Honda Shawdow and secured it with a logger's chain.
I live in the city and do not have a garage. Where I live is very high crime. When I had my Triumph Bonneville America from 2008-2013, I parked it on the street outside the house. A kid vandalized it one, causing minor damage, but no thefts. I have a small bike now, which stays on my partially enclosed back porch with a cover, disc lock, and a surveillance camera. Plus, I have the best insurance policy one can get. I don't worry much.
Agree, but insurance being what they are, they won't be too happy with regular claims....
Many of the sport bikes stolen end up as parts for racing bikes. When I flew my bike to Europe and couldn't get theft insurance I bought a hunking big ABUS chain and disk lock and a cover. I had read the Reddit posts before I left. But as you said, if they want your bike they will get it. Many of the videos from high theft areas show bikes being lifted onto cube vans. A couple of locks and good insurance are the best way to go! Also don't post Relive videos or geotagged photos that show where you live- you're just helping bike theft by order thieves.
yes, those minitrucks and minivans are stable for bike thieves, they lift the whole thing with the locks on a pickup or minitruck and then deal with the locks in their garage, it's better the locks have an alarm to raise suspicion
I stayed away from buying a motorcycle because of how easy they are to steal in UK. Couple of years ago I bought a motorcycle and park it on the streets. I always have 2 disk locks away from home and at home I have 2 chains and 2 disk locks together with a cover. I always see evidence of tampering but it's never been stolen. It's a hustle to lock it up but the day I'm complacent. Someone's going 2 punish me
My first bike, that I bought at auction, was stolen after 18 days. The OPP called me a couple weeks later to say they had recovered it. Fortunately, the impound yard told me that they wouldn't add insult to injury and didn't charge me anything (thief used a sports bike like a dual sport). After that, I always used a cover, occasionally a bicycle Kryptonite lock, and in a parking garage I park over an oil spot so it looks like I ride an old piece of crap.
I met this couple during Bike Week a couple years ago. They were from out of town and they were staying at a hotel in Daytona. They both rode pretty nice Harley's. After their first day of riding they went back to the hotel. The next morning their bikes were gone, never recovered. I felt horrible for them, Harley's are targeted big time around Biketoberfest and Bike Week.
I got a Monimoto recently and it worked flawlessly right out of the box here in Austin. It's my last resort though. More of a piece of mind thing. I take all of the other precautions that you mentioned in one form or another depending on where I'm at.
Hi Mc. good video. couple points, when first got my fazer my insurance advisor told me that if my bike was stolen and if I had not put steering lock on they will not payout, so thats the first pont. second I used to use a disc lock on the front, one day forgot about it being there, consequently dropped her, the point is you need a reminder like a cord fittedto the handlebar. thirdly I now use a handlebar lock, this goes around the throttle and brake lever, its easy to fit and remove before Starting the bike. I have used a chain and lock, its covered in fabric so is fairly safe. cheers again.
On a trip I put a caliper lock on the front wheel, lock the handlebars and I put a cover over it with a perimeter alarm attached to the cover. If someone lifts the cover it will pull the pin and it screams with the same decibel of a police siren, it is loud and will draw attention. You can use a key chain alarm as well, on the cover. Make sure the alarm is just inside the cover where is is not visible for anyone to see. Just make sure you disarm it before you take the cover off in the morning. Good video, I never thought about putting the caliber on the back wheel, good advice a usual. Thanks
Great info and a valuable reminder regarding how vulnerable our motorcycles are to theft. Thanks, Kevin!
Any time!
👍Our bikes are garaged at home, when parked in town, in gear with fork locked, when traveling, the same as above plus covers and the rear wheels cabled together…all good advice…if we ride to Mexico in ‘22, we’ll add caliper locks.
If you can believe this, my buddy bought a brand new Indian Super Chief this year and it does not have any kind of handlebar lock. So, he bought a little device that goes on the clutch handle or brake handle that locks it into position so that the bike is not drivable. Still, not having a handlebar lock was a frustrating realization for him after spending all that money on a brand new bike.
Your story of using a screwdriver to start your car takes me back to college days, where the older tractors could be started using the dipstick if you didn't want to go and get the key.
Awesome video! I maybe a little over board!!!
I double chain to a fixed object with an cover that has the eyelet for chain :first one around frame and front tire and : second one around rear tire and frame ! It’s backed up against my deck on the center stand with the front wheel turned towards the wall and the handlebars locked ,Right in front of the camera… lol it’s also fully insured 🤷🏼
That's what I do Kevin. I got a $27,000 Honda Goldwing Tour. I got the locked bike cover, Disk caliber lock in the front, a Cable and lock that runs through the wheels through the center stand that cannot be cut and a motion sensor that will get some attention if it falls to the ground from the seat on the bike.
ANY thief,.... no matter WHAT they steal, should be wiped off the face of the earth.
Thanks for your thoughts and insights
Thank you Kevin for all your insight, another great video again!! Also thank you for your openness on that product (remote alarm). Keep it coming I’ve enjoyed all your videos!
Harleys and other big bike are harder to move, so are less likely to be stolen. One guy I know drilled a hole through the interior wall of each of his saddleboxes, and slips a piece of rebar through the holes (and the spokes on the rear wheel). All that a potential thief could know is that the bike stops rolling after a couple of inches. A good alarm is a must, prefer one with a jiggle switch. The best follow-up to an alarm going off is an armed response.
I used to be a fan of the disc lock, until 1 day I just rolled my bike back about 4 inches to check the tire pressure as I do before each ride. The pin of the lock broke like a pretzel stick.
Great topic Kevin.
I have heard cheaper ones are not very reliable. The former thief in the Reddit post recommended spending at leas %100 for a good lock. Thanks for sharing.
I believe this to be a good option: www.mcrider.com/DiskLock
Thank you Kevin, I will definitely look into that.
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Don't ever leave your motorcycle unattended on your ride. When going to a grocery store, shopping,etc.,take your car instead.
Thanks for the information. With the price of gas destined to be going way up, motorcycle theft will definitely be on the rise.
Or they will take the gas and leave the motorcycle. ;)
Good advise as always. I'm not sure if I can get to my rear caliber to use that locking system. I had no idea that a cover would discourage thefts. I thought Harley covers were just asking to be stolen. I was also surprised about the theft statistics. Keep up the good work you do.
You definitely don't want a cover that advertises what kind of bike is concealed beneath it. A cheap unmarked bike cover is the way to go.
Hello Kevin, another option when at an event would be to get a group together and post a guard. This could be done day or night. Most likely at night. Maybe a hour or so each. Thanks Lt. Kevin.
I pulled too much guard duty in the Army. ;)
How much would you pay these people?
@@RayfordRaySiegel How much would you charge to watch over your motorcycle and the motorcycles of your friends for an hour? Eight friends get together for one hour each and all of your bikes are safe overnight.
This is why riding with a club would be nice.
@@henrydillard6217,
Being in a club isn't going to stop a thief, because you and the club members won't be around the bike, all the time, just as other riders won't be around their bikes. all the time. And a thief probably doesn't care if a bike belongs to a club member.
One thing you didn't mention was a ground anchor. I chain my bike to a ground anchor that cannot be pulled out (at least not easily). My Monimoto works fine in the UK - sometimes too well when the battery in the key fob goes flat. Years ago someone stole overnight the front forks, wheel and fairing off my Honda CB 550X, leaving the rest of the bike where it was.
For many this is overkill. I got:
1. ABUS 14KS black loop chain.
2. Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit New York 1410 chain.
Both are attached to motorbike frame and to an Abus wall anchor.
3. A smaller Kryptonite chain attached to rear wheel and motorbike frame.
4. Abus brake disc lock with alarm.
5. Two Oxford big locks with alarm attached to the bike and chains.
6. Monimoto 7 tracker.
Bike has already its factory alarm and I always lock the handlebar.
Always use the motorbike cover.
Or you can get a siren for the built-in anti-theft system for your Harley-Davidson that screams if someone moves the bike and they don't have the key fob. Thieves are basically lazy and don't want to draw attention to themselves. I don't believe I have ever had a hotel tell me I couldn't park right in front of the hotel doors where the night auditor would hear or see someone stealing my bike. The other thing you can do is if you want to chain your bike down is to get one of those corkscrew looking things made to chain your dog in the yard and weld the loop shut. There's too many revolutions to get it out of the ground to do that if the chain or cable is tight. Can it be done, of course, but they will move on to an easier target. Keep the good stuff coming Kevin.
When I ride to work I do not park in the building car park as a thief could reasonably expect that the bike will be sitting there between 10AM and 3PM without anyone coming in our going out. Instead I rent a space in an apartment block across the road from work that has shops on ground level. It's also good that the bike can't be seen from the street so I expect that helps. The business owners and residents come and go all day so there is always someone around plus to get into the car park you need to use a special type of key to get in and out. Then I
1) lock the forks
2) put the bike in gear
3) use the factory immobiliser
4) disk lock on the front
5) disk lock on the rear
6) chain the bike through the rear wheel to a concrete pillar that supports the concrete floor above.
Smart tags are simple and cheap for tracking bikes. They have limitations, but do work.
Great video, I use the factory fork lock with a disc lock thanks Kevin and Safe riding
Love your videos. Is there any way you can do a video on the GPS tracker and the app to do a trial run.? Have someone try to roll it away while you're at your house or something? I don't live in the best neighborhood and I need something that works really well.
Great advice Kevin and as always great video. Always look forward to your weekend video hear in 🇬🇧👍
Well done. Thank you for doing this video.
I use a cover and three locks when parked overnight. Two locks if i'm parking and going in a store or other.
That’s good info thanks Kevin.
In the surveillance cam video, i was surprised to see the fork lock defeated by just a leg kick. Mine, built in by Honda, is a 8mm shaft that engages deep into a pretty sturdy hole in the fork triple tree frame.
The thief was expert as his partner on bike stayed beside so it didn't look suspicious at all on street level. Just two guys riding together, and one dealing with a little mechanical "problem"
the power of levers.
@@sqlb3rn you only get a 1 foot advantage over the fulcrum and hardened steel pin. Leg might add a bit more.
@@STho205 whatever the physics, the results speak for itself.
I have a Brand new G-4 Roof antenna with cables . indoor Signal booster and indoor antenna for G-4..
Most GPS trackers need a clear view of the sky for a Satellite signal .. If they put your bike in a metal Van or store it in a Metal building.. the tracker won't work ..
I have seen videos that show most steering locks are easy to break .. I just lost my disc lock .. The day after I recived my new disc lock I found one in my the top cover for my tank bag.. I had put it in there as a weight to keep the tank bag cover open while it was drying out..
I just got a light cover I can carry in my luggage while travelling.. Locking the cover from side to side is a great idea..
Oh my goodness, Thank you so much for this particular content! I was just wondering about ways to secure my future motorcycle at home. I was "literally" thinking about it, and was going to start researching today. Truly a blessing that you created this video at this time. Thank you very much.
I use linxup live tracking with geo fence. Gives me just a bit of comfort. I have handlebar lock and disk alarm . Thank you for the info.
Thanks for the video bud. Good videos as always.
I have moni moto 7 installed on my motorcycle and function very well,it does work with satellite gps not data gos and lot of people use it around the world,not sure you installed it correctly .
Locks only keep honest folks honest. I read the dudes entire thread and all comments. Apparently Harley’s are big money. And if it’s a real pro performing the theft and he really wants your bike, there’s nothing you can do to prevent it. Eventually he will find a way to get it if he really can get big bucks for it. The security equipment is a deterrent for the rookie/semi-pro thieves. The stuff he said is unreal. RF blocking paint in his chop shop????
It was a great read, very interesting.
I had a riding buddy recover his stolen motorcycle with a Tile he had hidden in the under seat tool kit.
There is a fob sensitivity range adjustment that might be set to maximum that prevents the alarm from triggering when not reduced to a realistic distance.
Thanks for being honest.
I thought it was easier to stop motorcycle theft over the pond than here in the UK.
Just pull your gun out and say 'I say here chap could you please stop stealing my bike'
Sorted. 😁
That's exactly why there are fewer Harley thefts than Honda-Yam-Suz-Kaw.... The thought that a Harley owner will show up during the theft and shoot them.
You meet the nicest people on a Honda.
Funny thought but the real reason is most of the money is in the plastics on super sports. It is easy to sell and there is no way to trace it.
There are fewer Harley thefts because everyone knows they’re just going to fall apart in a few months!
@@MCrider oh I know. The thief is going to only go after bikes nobody is around. In the UK-EU bikes, especially mopeds, were stolen for years in cities to have a untraceable vehicle for stab and grab and purse snatching.
Food delivery guys were often victims of both bike theft and robberies.
@@MCrider 99% of bikes in the UK are stolen for parts
Got a new supercub... The thing is so light people can just lift it easily on a pickup... luckily it has an alarm and steering lock, I also chained the rear wheel to a fence
I have a hidden Apple Air Tag on mine - works like a charm. Tested it extensively and know when my bike is moved and where its at; accurate to within a couple of feet. $25 and you just need to replace the watch battery once every year or two (even warns you before it goes dead).
The thumbnail of this video is so convincing 😀
Talk about "old School"... but VERY un-expected by thieves... I do cover my bike when I Travel. Even though it is a "Sport Naked" I roll up my cover, and a very good-quality rain coat, and strap them on the passenger seat. (my 'passenger' generally rides her own bike when we travel.)
But inside of my rain cover, I sewed a small loop... in a place where I can attach a "Cow Bell"... and if someone even Looks under the cover, or moves the bike, the cow bell sounds off! And the more they look for the Cow Bell... it will be rattling the entire time.
But one of the main things to remember is TIME... the more TIME it will take a thief to get your bike moveable, the less likely they are to try to take it. And that will also mean some time for YOU to put those measures in place, and YOUR TIME to remove them and store them. But it is a small 'investment" to prevent a theft of YOUR bike. Make Some things Obvious... so they know it will take them time. And make some things 'hidden' so they will have to figure them out as they come to them. Make them use TIME to take your bike!
{ I have even "done things" to my Car, in much the same way, so even if they break into the car... it won't MOVE unless they drag it onto a flatbed... }
Thanks for making this video. I ride a small 250cc bike that would be very easy to steal.
If one of them had a transponder locked to a security detail with 4 buff dudes with some weapons.... that truck would have had a bad day/night :)....
Was at my uncle when a security detail came because of a break silent alarm, those thiefs had a really awful day when they came out of the house :)
Monimoto works fine in Europe, GSM is very good there.....For America you would need another one.
I just use a 150db motion alarm and a motorcycle cover...cat sat on the cover once, now he's giving it a 3 meter social distancing space :).
😁Buy a Goldwing...I had NEVER heard of anyone who said they had their Goldwing stolen.😎
Most want the crotch rocket, only "old men" want a Goldwing...👌🤟
GOOD 1.
Old dogs know:)
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Only works if you're standing there...
Pewag 12mm security chain paired with an Abloy 362 padlock
You've got a great channel, Kevin, and you are a terrific teacher. However, some of your earlier videos are difficult to share because of the solid minute of promotion before you get into content. I would like to suggest that those videos might be improved by revisiting them, and editing in a shortened "please subscribe" message, maybe put some of that at the end.
I tried showing my brother one of those, and he yawned and walked away bored before you had even started on the topic.
Now that I know you, I don't really mind, and I'll gladly wait out that minute, but a guy like bro, he has no idea if the promo is going to be just one minute or five, he's not there to get sold something, he's there because I told him you have something interesting to say. When he sees that I brought him to an ad for a UA-cam channel, he gets turned off and never gets the benefit of your (truly awesome) commentary.
I love you Kevin, and someday I'm going to watch your "about that eye" video. I'm kinda squeamish, which is why I haven't yet.
I'd like to participate in a call-in sometime. I'm very curious to hear your opinions about some riding techniques that that I've developed over my 50+ years of motorcycling.
Not sure if it is true, but have heard from several Europeans that have lived in US, the best way to avoid car thieves is to get the car with manual transmission = ).......... about the bikes, probably locks are good and will take time to get rid of them for thieves, but if you are not living under constant sun shine it might be pretty messy operation to put them, if the tires are full of dust or just wet and have some other crap on them it make lock not so attarctive. Maybe covering the bike will be quite effective as well, at least it will be less attractive. Some noisy alarm system might be good as well. And for Harleys, many bikes brought from US to European market are significantly cheaper compared with local dealers, I guess that is one of the indication that bike might have been stolen, so don't think that bad about your local dealer, he might be just most honest one , who pays the taxes and and not stealing the bikes like some "import second hand bike from US LTD" companies might do it
Thanks Ken.
I appreciate these videos
GPS radio frequency is very high and will not penetrate into a metal structure. So you likely had a double trouble with cell and the GPS not being located
Thanks, I figured that was the issue but was surprised when it did not get a connection outside of the shop in a business area.
I have insurance. I would love to file a claim some day. I have never had 1 ever at 60 yrs old.
Thieves go for the easy bike so even the most basic security heavily reduces the chances of you bike being stolen, and you don’t even need to spend much even a $30 lock is a good start.
I agree, any protection will reduce your odds of losing a bike.
but it also depends on where you park it, if it's locked or an alarm goes off and nobody is around, like an isolated and desert suburb, it won't be much of a deterrent
i remember a video of a bike chained to a tree, the thieve cut the tree down to steal it
@@zazugee lol why would they steal a tree?
@@zazugee lol - use lamposts not trees!!
You didn’t mention arming the built in security system.
If it has one....yes
Hi Kevin, where on a motorcycle is a good place to hide the tracker?
It really depends on the motorcycle. Just somewhere out of site and not easy to find.
Tip: When you find a good spot, don't post it on the internet.
You DON"T ask, it is a BIG BIG BIG SECRET !!!!!!!!!!
A 45 works pretty good
Second Amendment, and a few dogs is my security. Not just for motorcycles. ;)
@@PaulsMotoZen My dog is more noise than help, he's a 20lb terrier that thinks he's a 80lb dog. I have my choices, but I like John Browning's creations a lot.
Thanks Kevin! Had my ignition twisted on my Nighthawk, saved by the handlebar lock. Bought my Virago from the insurance company, it was stolen and recovered. God bless and stay safe.
Is it good to ride with knee guards?
Then steel building does effect most tracking systems
Thanks Kevin. You have to at least do the basic fork lock.
Not everyone has one.
Seems like great time for Mc Rider channel to do give away of items used to prevent theft?
Hmmmm? I wish I had thought of that.
@@MCrider it's not too late. . .
My motorcycle has a wifi link that links to my phone giving me my motorcycles location.
That's another thing for the price of these Harleys they should come with an alarm like most cars... loud alarm if the bike is moved and resets after 30 seconds or so twice or three time redundant with lock on after with a free app locator from Harley just like an apple phone...... our insurance would go down
My 05 Fatboy was stolen along with 4 other Harley’s and they left one of my buddys Honda Shadow all because one garage door left open
BUMMER.
It's not really surprising that it's mostly Honda's and Yamaha's which are stolen, since they are the sold in the millions. It would be more interesting to see the percentage of each brand stolen.
Caliper locks can be defeated easily with a screw extractor
Someone watches the lawyer, lol. Yeah, that was pretty depressing, but I figure casual thieves....
I read the same article and one of the things I took away from it was he said he needs a shopping list before he goes looking for bikes to steal and the places he goes to the most is apartments buildings and factories. I tried a GPS tracker and had no luck with it either also Kevin isn't a bike alarm a good deterrent my BMW has a factory alarm and it's motion sensored it's also goes off if you cut wires it . I try and layer my protection even though the locking systems I use are not expensive they're going to have to cut at least three of them before they take my bike. And I always cover my bike even when I'm go camping and I lock it down covering my bike means the morning it'll be dry safe and if I need to have some space I can put my gear underneath it too. And the best trick I know to stop your bike from being stolen park beside a more expensive one like a Yamaha, Honda or a Harley-Davidson and make it hard for them to take yours.
Dude, grammar, or punctuation, much? Nobody's going to read your whole comment, even if it's helpful.
Thanks to people like you and the perfect people in the world that you are you always going to comment again so take it and shove it
@@jps8941 good comeback, bro.
My best:
1. Having unpopular bike
Eyes is the problem, so double it with cover bike. As long as they don't see it worth, they won't steal.
2. Disk brake lock
almost visible. I use allen key bolt, slip it in disk hole. Giving little shock when tires roll, then stop in sudden.
3. Remove ignition fuse
Fuse is small easy to slip it in pocket or wallet. If leaving bike for long time. Unable to turn on engine if they think it's battery problem, using kick starter wont do either. They have to tow.
4. Pray
For believers, ask protection from those evil people.
The ignition fuse just seems like it would just cause you more headaches than the thief. Most thieves will just load it on a van or trailer and take off, or just walk away with it if they can. I don't think they'll waste time trying to start it even if you left the fuse in place.
The ignition fuse works for cars though. For bikes, not so much.
@@joemann7971 That's sounds like grand theft autos in my country. Every thief has different method to steal. And yes, every security is useless as it simple just load to a van or trailer, and disassemble on the way, then ship them to other Island.
I seen 4 men pick up a fully dressed Harley and put it in a pick up truck so no locks nothing gonna stop them if they really want it
Good to know
Is LoJack even a thing anymore? 🤔
LoJack is totally a thing, Progressive gives a discount for it--but the discount is less than the (overpriced) cost of it, so that's a no from me.
Well, first i caught him pushing my honda 350 and i won't say what i did to him. Then i had three locks on my 1970 police HD that they TRIED to steal. Two reasons they didn't, I ALWAYS park my bikes in the LOW HOLE and I came back from work EARLY. JUNKIES. They were watching and were gone when i got there. I noticed the handle bars moved and they had cut all three locks. Because i left it in the low hole THEY were in such a hurry that they got the transmission hungup so bad they couldn't move it.
The more hassle you can cause a thief, the bigger the risk it is to the criminal type, the less likely your ride gets taken.
No links to the references made in video Kevin.
I will add them, they are here though...www.MCrider.com/theft
Quick note on 'bike covers: use a generic one, not a branded one. Otherwise you're just putting up a billboard that says 'Hey there's a Ducati here!', 'Come take this Harley!', etc.
Or you can be safe and get a Suzuki branded cover. No body will bother to look under.
Just kidding, don’t hurt me Suzuki people. 😉
Lol exactly
Weird how you call it a caliper lock, you don't and can't lock a caliper well unless you use a handlebar lever lock to pull the lever which does lock up your front brakes, in the UK we call em a disk lock given that this is what you are actually locking by putting the lock through the disk. 🤷🏻♂️
H-D offer a GPS tracker its called FIN
When I am at home I use steering lock alarm over night it also gets caliper lock and parked under a carport that is fenced in. And happens to be part of my dog run.
If you can get it out with out being ripped up by 2 wolf hybrid and the boxer. I'll sign the title over.
That will work !!
@@tpv59 about 15 years ago my house was robbed and it really sucked at the time I was into down MT. Bike racing and they took both my bikes 3 races left in the season and I was in a 3 way tie in my class. Ever since I take a lot of precautions
@@robertgutheridge9672
''Thou shalt not steal''. Ex.20:15 (KJV)
''The wages of sin is DEATH''. Rom.6:23 (KJV)
''For MANY are called, but FEW are chosen''. Matt.22:14 (KJV)
Mk.4:9 (KJV)
Sounds like a legal theft. Paying for the impound fees as a victim sjeez
I don't totally disagree with that. I don't remember how much it was but it was several hundred dollars to get the car back.
@@MCrider In Belgium those fees are covered by the justice departement. If a suspect is caught he will have to reimburse it.
Same thing happened to me when my 125 got stolen & impounded - I just let them scrap it - I’ve got so many deterrents on my 2021 MT09sp including the built in immobiliser ;)
I’ve never even engaged the steering lock on mine. That’s what insurance is for.